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>>7145298

>> No.7191812

>>7191607
Gura and Calli are the fastest vtubers to reach 100M VOD views right?( Gura is a little bit faster)

>> No.7191870

>>7191607
without her music videos mori would have over 60 million views less

>> No.7191949

>>7191870
Well she is half-Vsinger. Most of her views come from original songs, not covers.

>> No.7192001

>>7191870
75 million actually, 25m from RIP alone

>> No.7192003

>>7191870
Your point? As an artist channel her MV view count is one of her strengths.

>> No.7192037

miko's got some pretty impressive numbers for being so late in the night today

>> No.7192057

>>7191607
Go IRyS Go!

>> No.7192100

>>7192037
Looks like we're gonna have a proper school for the school festival this year. Miko's been working on that thing for several streams now and invited Moona on-stream. It's things like this that make Minecraft such a buff game for the Holomems.

>> No.7192114
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>>7191607
This is a hololive without Coco. Watching hololive without Coco is like eating Curry Rice without using any plates. Completely baseless. No different from all the dogs that eat off the floor. Tell me holobros, how does it feel knowing that from now on you will be eating off the floor like pathetic Nijidogs?

>> No.7192132

Calli problably has highest base daily views(no stream for a day ,no sudden unprivated video) besides Suisei.(due to cover song numbers )

>> No.7192182

>>7192003
my point is that her regular VOD views are below-average

>> No.7192205

>>7192114
We still have YAGOO.
YAGOO is everyone, everyone is YAGOO

>> No.7192277

>>7191607
Guras total views are so high despite the fact that she streams so infrequently. Imagine if she would stream as much as Pekora.

>> No.7192302

>>7192182
So you want to discount her MV views?

>> No.7192342

>>7192277
Unfortunately, nobody works as hard as Pekora. She's an anomaly

>> No.7192429

I wonder if Hololive videos become unprivated, how many views will old members get

>> No.7192467

>>7192342
korone wants to talk to you

>> No.7192473

>>7192205
Nice, post it on r/hololive for the reddit review.

>> No.7192474

>>7192342
That is just because Pekora is a hikki with literally no real life at all

>> No.7192496

>>7191870
She deserves those views. Her songs are a hit

>> No.7192502

>>7192277
>Imagine if she would stream as much as Pekora.
Or if she made more songs or covers, a pretty big chunk of Mori's views (and subs) are from those.
>>7192342
I think Watame has more hours streamed than anyone.

>> No.7192512

>>7192473
Old news, already happened

>> No.7192531
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>>7192205
but im already Polka..

>> No.7192646

>>7192502
>I think Watame has more hours streamed than anyone.
Half of it is filled with talking REALLY slow while eating chips and reading supas. I'd still call Pekora the harder worker by a mile.

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>>7192646
but watame still has to carry way more emotional burdens from her depressed fanbase

>> No.7192998

Marine's new outfit might surpasses 150K if it happened three weeks earlier(Coco graduation + 1M celebration) or two weeks later( 2 year anniversary)

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And the winner of the day is
>Mel
10k in a very busy time slot

>> No.7194346

>>7192998
>having her outfit reveal on the same stream as her 2 year anniversary
why would she want to have 1 huge scs streams instead of 2? As far as I know senchou doesnt hate money

>> No.7194651

>>7192114
>Completely baseless.

This. Hololive is too disjointed now. Someone really needs to step up and become Coco 2. Coco the sequel. I watched haachama meme review and haachama lacked what made shitpost review good in the first place. The unfiltered shit flinging. Coco never hesitated to shit on the other holo members or make fun of them.

>> No.7194938

Kuzuha still streaming at night to get that sweet sweet 1M VOD post views. He knows baseball isn't forever, might as well add another million to his collection of streams.

>> No.7195168

>>7194938
Yup that's definitely why he's streaming at nearly 5AM JST instead of prime time. Because he cares about numbers so much

>> No.7195237

>>7194651
Don't worry. With enough time she'll grow into it.

>> No.7195250

>>7195168
Agreed

>> No.7195409

>>7195250
Glad you agree. Pekora should follow suit and change her time slot to 4AM JST so she can compete with Kuzuha for those sweet sweet VOD views.

>> No.7195450

>>7194938
How many 1M+ does he have?(stream only)

>> No.7195637

How many 1M+ views videos do other vtubers have during their 1st anniversary?

>> No.7195987

>>7195409
He's been streaming since around 8PM JST, retard.

>> No.7196146

>>7195450
11+ streams above 1M views. Recent 1M is his 5 hour baseball stream.

>> No.7196174

>>7195987
Dunno why you're resorting to insults. I was just agreeing with this genius statement >>7194938

>> No.7196365

>>7194938
Kuzuha is clearly speed-running through the game, he's over it after getting cucked by RNG (no good new players, losing the first match in the preliminaries due to hard (randomly chosen) opponents, continuously failing to learn new skills on his players).

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>>7196365
Well, I don't know much of the game but 9 straight hours of a game not apex would've taken a toll on any guy.

>> No.7196507

>>7194938
>>7196365
Obv just want to finish this and go back and play Apex.

>> No.7196577

>>7195168
He does, actually. In prime time he was getting less than 30k live because of all the competition, and later on the night when all of them ended he did rise his numbers.

>> No.7196806

>>7196507
You mean Pokemon Unite to beat up kids again

>> No.7197199

>>7196577
His only competition was Hal.

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>>7197199
Yeah but Hal had secured those numbers way early in the day, it was always a competition for second place

>> No.7198346

>>7197968
That anon seemed to imply that all the competition took Kuzuha's viewers away today, but the only one who did that was Hal. I don't think the newbie collab had much of an effect.

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Astel is a smart as fuck numberfag. Picked Choco and Roboco as his teammates for a guaranteed incline

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>numbers thread
can you check these at least?

>> No.7198742

>>7198433
are you being ironic?

>> No.7199635

>>7198742
No? The only reason most hololive fans know of Astel is from his impromptu collab with Ollie on APEX.
Picking girls he can carry is the shortest way to the heart of their audience.

I surely hope you didn’t assume he would pick them because he wants to win the competition. Go ask the Niji chick that organized the last event and Matsuri how much love they got for winning

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>>7198594
Sorry Nene, only best girls and strongest Idols are allowed into digits

>> No.7199722

>>7196365
this game sounds awful

>> No.7199934

>>7196365
This game is not designed to be speedrun, right?
It supposed to be a simulation game.

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>>7199688

>> No.7200315

>>7194651
>Someone really needs to become Coco 2. Coco never hesitated to shit on the other holo members or make fun of them.
That’s likely why Cover restricted her until she quit. They want to please Sponsors, at any cost. Coco was thought to be a liability.

>> No.7200461

>>7200315
Numbers thread, anon. Enough threads in the catalog to fall for cheap rrats using Coco corpse as bait.

>> No.7202678

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtZGPY4pif8
13 hours until Lain celebrates being monetised.

Does anyone have any superchat estimates?

>> No.7202769

Leos will get an insane amount.

>> No.7202812

>>7202678
Do Nijis bring out numbers for these kinds of streams?

>> No.7202925

>>7202769
This, since his voice pack reached the top five on Nijisanji store.

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>>7199688

>> No.7203189

>>7192182
That also means most of Mori's views have short length time.

>> No.7203202

>>7191812
I personally think counting Mori is somewhat cheating since the Topic channel got merged with her real account when she got the artist label

>> No.7203220

>>7202678
Honestly impossible to predict Niji peak SC numbers. Nijifans go nuts, but I don't think it'll be record breaking, just a huge number.

>> No.7203307

>>7202925
On the other hand, it could also mean that Nijisanji have already milked some of Leos' fans, meaning that the SC numbers would be lower than what you expect.

>> No.7203415

>>7202812
Fans usually save up their superchats for a special occasion, like a 3d debut.
I'd expect whatever she gets to be generally higher than whatever her average will become, but I have no clue.

>> No.7203478

>>7202678
10k or so

>> No.7204540

>>7203307
I think you're underestimating the insanity of vtuber fans. Many people here predicted that Coco would not break SC records for her final stream because most Tatsunokos know her roommate and have been SCing like crazy for a month, but she still shattered all records. Obviously Eden getting SCs isn't the same level as importance as Coco's grad, but I don't think merch sales is going to affect their SC numbers.

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>>7200461
>This is the Numbers thread, anon-kun. Where we take our number 100% seriously. We've had Enough threads in the catalog to fall for cheap rrats using Coco corpse as bait. Learn how to read graphs or fuck off outta here.

>> No.7205303

>>7200461
>I’m not posting numbers, instead I’m going to bitch at you for saying something I disagree with.
Congratulations.

>> No.7206412

>>7200461
based numberfag

>> No.7206575

>>7196146
If you are only counting actual streams and not songs/short clips, Kuzuha has 7 above 1M. For comparison, Gura has 28.

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>>7194938
hes farming watched time.

>> No.7206723

>>7206657
This

Pekora realized it after she saw the "top 5 female streamers thing" and it seems like Kuzuha just caught on. All the mainstream tracking sites care the most about watch time far more than things like average live viewers or things like that.

>> No.7206876

>>7206723
lol these two retards are gonna burnout because of some dumb badly calculated metric, aren't they

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Today's superchats

>> No.7206963

>>7206876
More importantly, they might end up burning out a portion of their fanbase if they aren't able to catch up to them due to the constant streaming.

>> No.7207048

IRys has about 1.6k people waiting for her karaoke stream. Did the Minecraft stream buff her? I know that karaoke is what a lot of people come around for, but the last time she did it nobody came around.

Granted, it was also a Superchats stream the previous time as well. I love this dork so I hope she gets lots of views.

>> No.7207075

>>7206963
Pekora streams different kind of games, at least better than streaming MC over and over.

>> No.7207095
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>>7206723
its the most important metric afterall.

>> No.7207321

>>7206657
>>7206723
Past 30 days:
xqc's average live viewers is "only" 59597 but he has 15,182,570 hrs watched time(=910954200 min
)

>> No.7207788

>>7207048
She got 36k peak for an NA dead hour and when JP where stuck at work. I saw tweets from nips having to take a break just to catch a glimpse of her. She's doing this at a more bearable time. Maybe she will get higher or the same. Her numbers yesterday indicates these normies have been craving for something new from EN.

>> No.7207796

>>7207048
>the last time she did it nobody came around
>it had over 30k viewers
Sometimes I think the numbers have fried the brains of a lot of people on here.

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>>7207788
For reference. I forgot to attach it

>> No.7207864

>>7192474
Gura is too but she's lazy and unmotivated on top of that.

>> No.7207903

>>7207796
I'm starting to believe that numberfagging isn't good for some people... especially of those of the schizo variety.

>> No.7208059

>>7192474
I don't get this hikki or no life shit. hololive vtuber is a full-time job and an average person work 150-160 hours a month, Pekora has stream/work less than that. Some work more than 160 to 180 hours (overtime)

>> No.7208075

>>7206889
Can't say I expected Selen to be the top earner of Obsydia but the tomboy girl-next-door experience niche could do very well for her

>> No.7208131

>>7192342
You can't really say that. A lot stream everyday and even stream twice a day even when it wasn't the summer holidays or the weekends like Lamy, Miko and Botan. A lot also push a lot of work behind the scenes that bring content in other forms like Subaru, Aqua, Suisei, Nene, Marine and Kanata. Pekora is only focused in streaming. That's what she enjoys the most. I'm not saying this to devalue Pekora btw. Just to add more perspective

>> No.7208259

>>7191607
>numbers thread
>holo only numbers in the OP
Maybe just rename the threads to holonumbers already?

>> No.7208262

>>7192342
How new?

>> No.7208267

>>7208059
You have to add meetings and team huddles in the equation. We don't know how long they go for but I know their management ask the girl's attention to a lot of things like merch ideas, sponsorships and projects. Pretty sure Pekora gets a lot of demands from management to do shit. It's probably long ass meetings just to convince her to do shit

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>>7208267
These girls stream less than 100 except few like Pekora (summer vacation so shes streaming a lot this month, her usual number is 80h-90h a month), Watame, Flare. add that up and its pretty much the same 40hours a week/160 hours month.

>> No.7208412

>>7191870
If she didn't produce content her views would be 0. You are a special kind of retard.

>> No.7208626

Just a reminder that numbers thread doesn't reflect the entirety of vtubers but just the top 0.25% of the whole. Anyone that thinks that any of these girls or boys are really struggling are falseflaggers or tribaltards.
100 live viewers everyday B rank
1000 live viwers everyday A rank
3000 live viewers everyday AA rank
5000 live viewers everyday AAA rank
10,000 live viewers everyday S rank
15,000 live viewers everyday SS rank
20,000 live viewers everyday SSS rank
30,000 live viewers everyday God rank
50,000+ live viewers everyday is Jun/News Channel rank

>> No.7208630

>>7206889
Was about to be really happy for Maaru and then I watched the stream.

>> No.7208667

>>7206723
fuck overwatch. pekora really shouldn't try to chase that #1. her throat was running into issues at like 140 hours a month i think and the current #1 is a 310+ hours a month streamer.

>> No.7208768

>>7208667
Twitch streamers fap about a lot. There's a lot of dead hrs/mins there that bulks up watch time.

>> No.7208826

>>7208399
Damn, looking at the numbers for this month Pekora actually looks to be within striking distance for Miko. If Miko cut out some of her hours long post stream super chat readings and instead turned that into gameplay she could be approaching #1. Miko is having a very very strong month.

>> No.7208866

>>7208626
You forgot about KoreTube

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>>7208667
#1 is that valkyrae girl and she is avg 20k-30k ccv, Pekora needs is a high ccv aka play popular games like ff10, Minecraft or channel collab like pekoluna clubhouse. here's an example same amount of minutes watched/watched time. nov 2020 high ccv, less streaming hours vs may 2021 low ccv, high streaming hours.

>> No.7209113

>>7208059
The term hikkikomori (shut-in) can apply to Pekora assuming the only thing that sdhe leaves her house for is to deal what she can't do at home. NEET definitely isn't the one that applies to any of the Holos though, since they are contracted labor and they do go on training from time to time to do things related to their line of work.

>> No.7209168

>>7208969
Once Pekora starts an RPG she won't drop it even if it hurts her numbers. The only way I can see her getting more numbers is if she drops at least half of the shit that she announced she wants to play during her anniversary but that won't happen so the only way she can justify her autism is playing 2 streams in a day, buffed and debuffed

>> No.7209249

>>7208259
The OPic is largely irrelevant now since we don't have a good source that only lists VTubers (unless you are able to filter them in one of the currently existing rankings). You can just wait for a thread to die and make one with Nijis or whomever you want to feature as long as they're on-topic on this board.

>> No.7209271

>>7208667
Pekora's streaming style is incompatible with her goals. Simple as that. There are many streamers who will spend a lot of time in silence and end up speaking less in a 10 hour stream than Pekora would in a 2 hour stream, but Pekora would never do that. She speaks constantly and loudly. It's just not feasible to increase her streaming time much more.

>> No.7209377

>>7207823
She has 2.8k people waiting now just like yesterday. Maybe she will get 25k min. It's very hard to gauge her numbers since it goes up and down a lot. Her base average peak seems to be 8k no matter the time. It goes beyond when she's has buff factors pushing her numbers up. This is definitely one of those moments. I

>> No.7209421

>>7209271
They would even take a lot of breaks in between just reacting to shit.

>> No.7209459

>>7209249
90% of discussion is about holo anyway

>> No.7209620

>>7208259
Maybe if you actually add relevant numbers for your oshi the thread won't be filled of the same stuff. Most people I watch don't even show up here but I just lurk to see who's trending. It would be nice to see other numbers like vtuber-utaite and vtuber-artists numbers compared to regular streamers. Nabi for one was at 1.2k when she was streaming. That's like low tier Niji/Holo corpo level standards but Indie wise, she's practically a breakout star

>> No.7209670

>>7209459
Because it is the only group regularly charted on VNUMA. Ironically enough, VNUMA died in the same month new Nijis were debuting and Koshien 21 was coming. Now no one has a fully accurate way to compare streams so all we can do come up with snapshots of all of the events that are happening at different hours.

It's both a blessing and a curse.

>> No.7209778

>>7208969
that was #1 last year. were we not talking about #1 last quarter? amouranth overtook her. valkyrae #2 pekora #3 pokimane #4

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IRyS has a decent SC per stream. is this the power of mommyfags?

>> No.7209896

>>7207796
He was probably talking about the superchats reading + a bit of singing stream, which would understandably have lesser viewers.

>> No.7210059

>>7204605
this, but unironically.

>> No.7210101

>>7209620
Weird her cult isn't helping much considering utoleech's success

>> No.7210148

>>7206723
true, but Kuzuha unfortunately has no chance of getting anywhere near the top, male streamers are just too saturated.

>> No.7210270

>>7208630
Oh...

>> No.7210458

>>7208630
Another graduation?

>> No.7210709

>>7206889
PP power

>> No.7210796

>>7210458
Pretty much
So either Sony or an unexpected new wave of Niji JP.
Unless Holos went back to scouting instead of auditions.

>> No.7211001

>>7210796
Sony's not starting interviews until October so graduating now would be pretty premature.

>> No.7211008

>>7202678
>Leo was most likely to be Niji new top dog
>The only girl of the gen managed to catch up and be ahead of all her genmates
>The EOP pandering one is last
Is this the redemption arc of the Nijis girls?

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Most Live Viewers

>> No.7212921

>>7209844
Well, none of the other HoloEN girls fill that niche, and the closest in energy/dorkiness to her is Ina (and she's explicitly said she doesn't need the SCs and doesn't do readings). I wonder how much overlap Ina's and IRyS's fanbases have.

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>>7206723
>Kuzuha just caught on
He's been putting in the hours since 2 years ago. I doubt he cares about watch time anyways. In fact, he probably doesn't care about his channel at all.

>> No.7213545

>>7209377
She's up to 26.5k now.
The fact that this is unarchived is definitely pulling people in.
The fact that her only Holo competition is Pekora playing the super EOP unfriendly Shin-chan game is a boon for her too.
Oh and by the time I finished typing this she's up to 27k.

>> No.7213682 [DELETED] 

>>7212922
You can easily tell which numberfags have actually looked at Kuzuha's history and which are newfags. Kuzuha has been streaming 80-100 more hours than Pekora since last year. He does 11-hour all nighter streams quite regularly, I believe even more than Korone who is known for long streams. The dude doesn't give a fuck about maximizing his viewercount or numberfagging, he just streams until he's tired af.

>> No.7213960

>>7212922
>>7212922
You can easily tell which numberfags have actually looked at Kuzuha's history and which are newfags. Kuzuha has been streaming
50-70 more hours than Pekora since last year. He does 11-hour all nighter streams quite regularly, I believe even more than Korone who is known for long streams. The dude doesn't give a fuck about maximizing his viewercount or numberfagging, he just streams until he's tired af.

>> No.7214004

IRyS currently at 28k.

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Is Pekora reclining?

>> No.7214755

>>7214589
Been streaming for 50 mins, so probably.

>> No.7214892

>>7214589
>>7214589
IRyS is probably stealing views from Pekora. EOPs are watching IRyS, and nousgai that are curious/bored of shinchan are likely to check out this new girl that can speak JP and sing.

>> No.7215146

>>7214892
And people still believe that most of her fanbase aren't EOPs

>> No.7215157

>>7214892
Maybe JP are curious after he recent Minecraft stream. Unlikely to be too many though. It’s mostly English speaking viewers.

>> No.7215186

>>7214589
She is 5 streams deep in a debuff game. This is Pekora being a pro and finishing games regardless of numbers. She did 30k last night for a multi view apex collab. Bait or not, this is the number thread friend. Need to regard things with their proper context.

>> No.7215372

>>7215186
Of course, I commend Pekora for finishing the games she plays, unlike many other streamers *cough Gura cough*. My Oshi, she not so good at finishing games....

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>>7214589
Wait, holostats doesn't update any streams...

>> No.7215453

>>7214589
Obviously no, since her numbers were good last night. Shin-chan is big debuff at this point and there might be some youtube fuckery going on. Both Holostats and Playboard aren't tracking this stream for some reason. It's also not on my front page despite being subbed, but that might just be me.

>> No.7215905

>>7215146
Her fanbase are mostly nips. For every 10 nips there is 1 EOP. It's true for her chat and comments

>> No.7216078

>>7215905
>for her chat
Haven't we already discussed that only 5-20% of viewers actually use chat in streams?

>> No.7216090

>>7214589
I'm not surprised if the majority of her viewers actually salaryman

>> No.7216120

>>7212905
Did HAL go back to his shota model? I noticed he took a viewership hit when he started using the more adult model.

>> No.7216158

>>7215905
Yea, it's just bad hours for a lot of her non-kid/non-hikineet fanbase. It's fucking noon/1pm in JP on a debuff game.
10k now watching a debuffed Pekora.

>> No.7216160

>>7216078
It still enough numbers for sampling statistics. You can even check her SCs. Mostly nips

>> No.7216235

>>7216090
Nah man. A good fraction are children. Mikoand Luna probably has more salary men than Pekora. The more childish you act, the older your audience is

>> No.7216255

>>7212905
Miko has been so damn strong lately. She always did pretty good but she has been on fire for like a whole month now, basically ever since she announced the maid cafe thing.

>> No.7216326

>>7216158
EOP also don't give a fuck about Shin-chan, which is like an anime for babies or something.

>> No.7216393

>>7216160
SCs make even less amount of data.

>> No.7216404

>>7214589
Nah, its just a debuff game and she is streaming it at a bad time for her JOP audience. She is probably doing this on purpose so this game doesn't take up her prime time slot which will probably be Minecraft for 30k+.

>> No.7216414

>>7216120
Vsaikyou Tournament Season 3 team announcement was last night
Obviously everyone was tuning in to either see if their favorite chuuba got in or if their predictions for certain team compositions were correct

>> No.7216561

>>7216160
Nah it's not enough. It's basically looking at 5k JOPs and than pointing at 20k other people and calling them JOPs based on that.

>> No.7216848

>>7216561
A good sampling size is 10% of the population. Chat numbers reflects max 20% of live viewers at most and it's better than you having no grounds whatsoever other than making assumptions and believing bait

>> No.7217174

>>7216848
Provided that your sample is representative of the whole population.
I do think chat is skewed towards JOP since they actually understand what's happening and can react to it in chat. And when something funny happens, 草 spam is easy enough to do even when you're EOP

>> No.7217258

>>7217174
Are you implying that you need to understand Pekora to enjoy her content? Isn't she all about reactions and funny sounds?

>> No.7217299

>>7217174
Again. Unless you actually have better numbers to prove otherwise then the defacto still remains that she has more JOP. You are just assuming again with no basis.

>> No.7217374

>>7217258
That's Korone and Miko. Pekora is more about what she does and says to people and in-game. You can still infer but you will be struggling. Marine and Subaru will be that streamer that you have to actually understand to enjoy

>> No.7217598

>>7217299
So are you saying that EOP are just as likely to type in chat as JOP? Because otherwise, how can chat population be representative of overall population?
Just saying also that when a lot of EOPs DO chat, the most likely thing they'll do is 草 spam which would camouflage their EOPness

>> No.7217718

>>7214589
She's playing a debuff game on weekdays at noon time.

>> No.7217792

>>7217598
You can already see chat behavior in Roboco, Aki Subaru, Towa and Irys's chat. JP chats in kanji just as much as EOP chats in EOP. Nothing is stopping them. It is actually more likely for JP to lurk than EOP. EOP would fucking ask for translations in chat.

>> No.7217796

>>7217598
>most EOPs try to camouflage their presence
The same EOPs known for clogging up pre-stream chat with irrelevant babble and spamming EOP memes during the stream ever since hololive got popular? Nah.

>> No.7218224

Even though yesterday's Edengumi (new Nijisanji) collab didn't show that impressive numbers (most likely because they were squeezed between multiple PowerPro streams) Oliver managed to incline from that - finally reached 100k subscribers and can keep 10k viewers now.

>> No.7218394

>>7214589
At this point, people asking this type of question without self-thinking are braindead.

>> No.7219416

Alright, since it was unarchived and I don think anyone mentioned it yet, IRyS peaked at 30k with "Never gonna give you up".
Do the various tracking sites keep up with unarchived streams or are those numbers "write em down before they're gone"?

>> No.7219701
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>>7199635
Actually all things considered his team isn't that bad. The way the apex tournament is organized each team has one "Really strong member" and two "just competent enough not to embarrass themselves" players. Astel is stronger than most other players in the tournament and Choco and Roboco have a history of working well together, so he actually has a decent chance of taking the championship.

>> No.7219718
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7219718

>>7219416
Normally they are tracked. Sometimes they aren't.

>> No.7219774

>>7219416
they do. for some reason, holostats didn't track irys unarchived karaoke and irys night delivery. no pekora shinchan stream too.

>> No.7219851

>>7210796
Why are there so many graduations recently? It sounds like there's a new one every week, and unlike the nijiEN graduation wave it doesn't seem like most of them are heading for a new agency.

>> No.7219889

Did anyone get Irys's unarchived Karaoke numbers? Holostats seemed to have completely bugged out on irys and stopped showing videos since the guerilla apex stream.

>> No.7219935

>>7219701
It's nice that he has such a big fan but let's not be delusional.

>> No.7219954

>>7219889
30k peak

>> No.7219978

>>7219889
I didn't take screencaps, but I can confirm she was above 29k at some point. Some anons pointed out that she was doing 30k.

>> No.7220092

>>7219774
>>7219889
Holostats seems to be frozen again. Weird thing is that even playboard seems to have missed the unarchived karaoke
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UC8rcEBzJSleTkf_-agPM20g

Something fishy is going on with Youtube API

>> No.7220112
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7220112

Kadokawa is debuting a vtuber tonight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8R_Tljr0o8

Give me your predictions

>> No.7220118

>>7210796
aren't holo auditions always open for JP?
They have yet to debut those 2 pre-made characters from last May, nobody knows what happened with those.

>> No.7220228

>>7220112
1-2k viewers? I don't know, this seems like on the same level as that AirAsia and Netflix girl. It's funny that kadokawa is in it too when they could have just partnered with Hololive or Niji to promote their mangas/animes.

>> No.7220241

>>7220228
They did though, remember all those bookwalker sponsorships?

>> No.7220270

>>7208626
any V-Tuber getting a consistent 5k or over is a success, big company or not, It's still a nice market, While around for a while only really exploded early 2020.

>> No.7220280

>>7220092
Same for this morning Pekora stream
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UC1DCedRgGHBdm81E1llLhOQ
nowhere to be seen on Playboard either.

>> No.7220306 [DELETED] 

>>7220092
Can't believe youtube is intentionally sabotaging Hololive baka my head

>> No.7220327

>>7203202
And it was the smart move as she would probably not have gotten the kind of growth she has now without it.

At the rate she’s going now she’ll be #2 in hololive before the year is over.

>> No.7220340

>>7220092
>>7220280
Can't believe youtube is intentionally sabotaging Hololive

>> No.7220403

>>7220112
Design feels bland to be honest. I guess they're just testing to waters to create their vr-billboard.
3d feels smooth unless it's pre-rendered.

Probably doesn't help that they've scheduled it during primetime, current scheduled big names being Aqua, Kanata and Lain. On top of that there are a lot of smaller streams starting/going at that timeslot.

Unless this is something released in conjunction with something else(new Anime?) I'll say 2 k tops.

>> No.7220423

>>7220340
Dummy, it happens to all companies and content creators. Youtube API (and Google API, and Google products in general) are reclining in quality for quite a long time now

>> No.7220438

>>7220112
>Kadokawa
>Sumipe is voicing this vtuber
Is this just another promotion from LN?

>> No.7220450

>>7220340
Just sucks that the api doesn't expose historical values for live viewer progression for old streams.. Because it's pretty obvious that Youtube has that data but is unwilling to share it.

>> No.7220451

>>7220112
10k peak

>> No.7220543

>>7220423
Sadly providing functionality that doesn't contribute to direct increase in profit becomes less of a priority for IT companies as they grow.

>> No.7220591

>>7220241
Eh, bookwalker is under kadokawa? I only knew it now. I thought they were another company receiving licenses/permissions from Kadokawa.

>> No.7220601

>>7220591
Bookwalker is a subsidary of Kadokawa yeah

>> No.7220646

>>7220591
>bookwalker is under kadokawa
Yeah. And those anitubers from trash taste are under bookwalker (a subsidiary), meaning them themselves are under kadokawa.

In some 30 years when Sony, Toshiba, Honda and Kadokawa merge under the later giant Gundams will finally be ready for mass production

>> No.7220835

>>7220112
4k peak

>> No.7221499

I reckon VSpo could take off further if they optimised a few things.
Take a look at Nazuna's channel:
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiMG6VdScBabPhJ1ZtaVmbw/about

She doesn't mention VSpo even once. Not in her about page, not in stream titles, etc. She doesn't even have it in stream descriptions - all she puts is her subunit (Lupinus).
And so many times, vtubers don't have the rest of their agency in the channels tab. She makes the same mistake.

>> No.7221641

>>7220646
Can't wait for Shill Taste to proclaim the only true vtubers are the ones from Kadokawa.

>> No.7221702

>>7221641
Nah, those guys are burned out of anime for the longest time and their podcast is as much about anime as Joe Rogan’s is about MMA (not at all).
I don’t even get why the good people in this site directs any energy in their direction (negative or otherwise), given that it just give them more exposure

>> No.7222037
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7222037

The floor is getting higher and higher for anyone wanting to be seriously considered for this humble numbers thread.
>pic related
With YAGOO at 192k, Roberu at 200k and Choco Sub at 268k (and all of them growing) the "tutorial bosses" are getting more and more buffed

>> No.7222197

>>7220112
also it's premiere not live

>> No.7222534
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7222534

>Miko cafe going strong
https://twitter.com/anny99850842/status/1420679000049864708
https://twitter.com/hashtag/%E3%81%88%E3%82%8A%E3%81%83%E3%81%A8%E3%81%8B%E3%81%B5%E3%81%87?src=hashtag_click&f=live

I wonder if Miko is getting part of the revenue or if it is a fixed amount for the promotion.

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7222580

>>7222534
>WAIT WHAT
Miko has cute 3D anime girls for fans?

>> No.7222587

>>7222580
I'm a 35p now

>> No.7222652

>>7222580
>cute 3D anime girls
You guys lied. There's only 1 cute girl in the tags. The rest are a bunch of sweaty otakus.

>> No.7222734

>>7222534
It's almost definitely a fixed amount, with maybe a small bonus if she gets more than a certain amount of customers. Royalty type payouts tend to be a bad deal for everyone involved when it comes to short term promotional deals like this, it complicates things on the cafe's end because they don't know how much money they will pay out and can't effectively budget for it and on Miko's end it's almost always lesser than a fixed deal would provide and would also take a longer time to pay out.

>> No.7222789

Elira and Finana's sub growth is starting to flatten out a lot. Obsydia are growing faster than LazuLight did in their first two weeks but they have existing fans from LazuLight subbing too so it's not surprising. I think around 200-250k subs is going to be the cap for NijiEN members for the next year or so unless someone amazing pops up in wave 3 or 4 and draws a lot of new eyes to the branch.

>> No.7222796

>>7222734
I agree. Also Miko would most likely be urging people to visit and spend if she was getting a cut of the revenue, instead of merely promoting it and giving it exposure

>> No.7222824

Some old yet interesting male numbers.
https://youtu.be/KB9TiN6Z9ug
Really puts into perspective the male livers records broken in 2021
Yet Kuzuha is still KING.

>> No.7222832

>>7222580
LONDON
O
N
D
O
N

>> No.7222858

>>7222824
Top 15 is almost all Niji. Where are the Holostars?

>> No.7222931

>>7222858
Still a few years behind, but things are looking better these days. There was a time not too long ago when the boys struggled to break triple digit viewers.

>> No.7223105
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>>7222858
>>7222931
A rising tide lifts all boats. Both the success of the male segment of Niji and the female segment of Holo improves the industry for all players, in and outside their respective companies.

People may not have noticed but Gura getting a Taco Bell partnership signals something important: even companies not deeply invested in the weeaboo market realized vtubing is at very least the next big fad, and maybe even something, like japanese animation, more permanent.
This mindset among advertisers and companies usually trickle down, from the most subscribed VTuber to some big in the companies to some literally who indies that have something to offer (similar theme with the logo of the company, similar geographical region and whatnot).

Shitposting and tribalism aside having these companies grow their talent benefit all of them

>> No.7223153

>>7222037
>getting more and more buffed
with filler subscribers?

>> No.7223172

>>7223153
We don't do that here

>> No.7223186

>>7223172
What's the viewer/subscriber ratio for Robure Ch.?

>> No.7223211
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7223211

>>7223186

>> No.7223221

>>7223105
If it wasnt for for niji, cover wouldnt have opened the doors to the west market and if it wasn't for cover nijiEn might not exist.
At the end the more mainstreams the hobby becomes the more it benefit everyone already stablished.

>> No.7223223
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7223223

Here is something to be taken in consideration when talking about VTuber numbers
>they're absolute MIDGETS compared to meatspace creators
Take Mark Robber: his videos are very "niche" (not as clickbait as the likes of Paul Logan) and have a high production value (in the sense je builds very complex jiggamagigs).

He has 19M subscribers and, yet, his interesting videos get at very least that many views, with the some getting 3x, 4x his number of subscribers in the span of a few months.

It helps that content creators like him releases only a few videos per year but, nevertheless, it shows how HUGE the market is for VTubers to expand.

>> No.7223234

>>7223211
Wow a whole lot of 0.5% of subscribers watch him on average, cool. Those 200k surely mean a lot.

>> No.7223243

>>7223234
Why are you retarded?

>> No.7223244

>>7223186
Big number > small number, that's the only thing that matter in this thread. It doesn't say anything about qualitative or subjective measures, only that
> having more subscribers means having more subscribers

>> No.7223247

>>7223211
stop using this inaccurate piece of garbage.

>> No.7223253

>>7223223
This is nothing to take into consideration because vtubers will always be a niche (anime) of a niche (streamers) of a niche (gamers/zatsusans/karaoke/events/etc)

>> No.7223254
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7223254

>>7223223
On the flip side you also have stuff like this so not everyone in meatspace is doing great

>> No.7223260

>>7223243
Why are you?

>> No.7223264

>>7223223
Vtubers are for intellectuals and will always filter the normalfags who gorge on that lowest common denominator targeted slop

>> No.7223272

>>7223260
>no u

>> No.7223294

>>7223223
That's how it is for pretty much all biggish video makers. Japan has a lot of those with every video getting at least 1mln views (like that Sushi Ramen guy)

>> No.7223320

>>7206889
Is this the first time a NijiEN has been first in a superchat list? Or did anyone of them get it during a birthday/supaopening stream?

>> No.7223329

>>7223244
Anya has almost 400k but like 500 viewers on average and low superchat numbers. She's not more successful than NijiEN.

>> No.7223335

>>7223254
Did this channel experienced a "fall from grace" or something?

>> No.7223357

>>7223329
We don't do that here

>>7223335
Not really, it's kinda like pewdiepie or kizuna Ai kinda situation where most of their subs are earned way back when and they just moved on.

>> No.7223368

>>7223329
>She's not more successful than NijiEN.
I doubt anyone would say that. But it is an object fact that she is more subscribed than NijiEN.

I baffles me that people want to inject subjective measurements like quality, success, entertainment in a thread where people talk not about the talent but about the numbers.

>> No.7223378

>>7223357
>we
All numbers are allowed to be compared here, numbernewfriend.

>> No.7223408

>https://youtu.be/p1-t-U8VvqA
Senchou reveals her new outfit in 10 minutes.
What kind of numbers will she get? Wasn't her gothloli outfit at something like 90k?

>> No.7223412

>>7223378
Exactly

> Anya has more subscribers than any NijiEN
> Anya has fewer live viewers on average than any NijiEN

These are both object facts

>> No.7223432

>>7223329
Anya is just a bad entertainer/streamer overall. She panders more to JP when that side is already saturated as fuck. Her dagger kayfabe could've brought up a new age of ID memes, but she didn't take up the opportunity. I hope this serves as a lesson for the scouting division that you don't have to be good in Japanese to be popular. Both Reine and Ollie can do good in JP, not fluent, but their focus is on other stuffs.

>> No.7223475

>>7223408
70k. People are burned out on these outfit reveals already. They have done too many.

>> No.7223478

>>7223408
Here are all the numbers for "" or "new costume" in the title (from Holostats data)

>>7180997
>>7181032

Here are the most recent:
>2021-06-29 :: 46969/78789 :: 【新衣装】かわいい?セクシー?新衣装お披露目だー!!!【 大神ミオ / ホロライブ 】 (mio)
>2021-07-14 :: 45390/65720 :: 【新衣装】覚悟はいいか…?【猫又おかゆ/ホロライブ】 (okayu)
>2021-07-14 :: 53058/70087 :: 【#戌神ころね新衣装】お披露目させて【ホロライブ/戌神ころね】 (korone)

Based on that I would say over 80k, under 100k but, of course, Marine could surprise everyone

>> No.7223490

>>7223408
90k

>>7223432
I bet ID could've been more popular if they adopted NijiEN's model in streaming almost daily and collabing with EN while also producing ID content on the side.

>> No.7223510

>>7223475
>>7223478
>>7223490
She hasn't had one since October. And that peaked at 137k.
I'm going to guess 160k.

>> No.7223521

>>7223432
>but she didn't take up the opportunity
She also missed the chance to use her bad temper to push a
>sadistic loli oujo stepping on her masochistic underlings
like so many in the JP anime trope, but (and this is the funniest thing in the tragicomic sense)
>SHE ONLY DOES IT UNIRONICALLY
which misses the whole potential of the trope.

Even Lolichama (like the 4th or 5th alter for Haachama) does a better job stepping on her unruly followers and Anya whose character model was built for that exact role misses it

>> No.7223536

>>7223510
>She hasn't had one since October. And that peaked at 137k.
October was the biggest month for Hololive with Coco and Haachama return, peak buff from HoloEN, Miko return.

Even Noel got 140k on a 3D live mostly because she did it the same day Miko returned.
2021 is a whole new year, I don't think 160k is achievable but I would love to see Marine make me look like a fool

>> No.7223552

>>7223478
Marine is also more popular than the three of them.
She'll easily go over 100k.

>> No.7223588
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>There are anons IN THIS VERY THREAD whose oshi still didn't clear the "weapons test tutorial room boss"
EXPLAIN YOURSELVES ANON!

>> No.7223619 [DELETED] 

i say 80k just becasue there was no build up to the anoncement, like toher outfits

>> No.7223623
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7223623

Marine waiting room had 24k before the dropoff

>> No.7223634

Hmm judging from the rate of increase 50k is definitely no problem. 80k might be stretching it though.

>> No.7223656

>>7209844
Eh, I'd say it looks pretty low for being this soon after debut
Check the old EN numbers for comparison

>> No.7223666

>>7223634
You guys are lowballing!
100k at least. It's Marine!

>> No.7223692

Looks like Marine is having a Bday 3D live tomorrow at 9pm JST? Feels spoiled as a Holofan these past few weeks, we get a live every other week.

>> No.7223702
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7223702

>>7223634
35k when she first showed her face

>> No.7223728

Some anon several weeks ago suggested that 10% of subs seems to work quite well as a guess for live views during events.
140k is my guess thus

>> No.7223732

>>7219416
Holostats seems to have bugged out in Irys and isn't counting her streams

>> No.7223744

>>7223666
The only question is if it'll beat her previous costume's peak of 137k, which is really high. 100k is the lowest I'll predict. People cite the Okayu/Korone costumes' lower numbers, but those 2 only had 30 mins to build hype and Korone had serious technical issues.

>> No.7223751

This is almost exactly following the trajectory of Subaru's which peaked at 126k, outfit reveal spikes are insane.

>> No.7223767

>>7223732
It's not just Irys, it missed latest Pekora and Moona too. Playboard missed Pekora's too so it much be related to Youtube shitty API

>> No.7223806
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7223806

54k so far. She's milking and stretching for time, likely to hit 1 hour. She's smart and that will just increase the peak

>> No.7223820 [DELETED] 

Marine is not going to break 100k, screencap this

>> No.7223830

>>7191870
Now you are stripping HoloEN of their assets to justify your oshi suck?

>> No.7223849

>>7223806
They start showing it around 20mins-30mins mark.

>> No.7223874

>>7223820
Oh come on. She'll easily beat that. Especially if the new outfit is lewd

>> No.7223905

>>7223849
Usually about 40 minutes in, I think.

>> No.7223966
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7223966

>70k
Still strong incline

>> No.7223981

>>7223806
Milking and stretching for 40 mins happens for every Holo costume reveal stream. It's a time honored tradition to tease for 40 mins with fanart, then tease the actual model for 5-10 mins (this is when viewercount explodes). Honestly, reviewing old holosummer fanart is much better than going through costume design guesses.

>> No.7224019

>>7223981
Yeah, I was still thinking of the Korone-Okayu relay which alloted only 30min to each.

In that case tho it was more for Okayu sake than anything, got her the 2nd highest peak since Holostats started recording

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>>7223820
Oh no no no you don't

>> No.7224097
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7224097

>SMELLFAGS GETTING A SHOUTOUT
Smellfags get the gas!

>> No.7224151 [DELETED] 

>>7224043
anon you fucked up, no deleting this.

>>7224043

>> No.7224172

>>7223820
anon you fucked up, no deleting this

>>7224043

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7224240

no bumps in this graph, unlike some others

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7224243

>Miko anniversary August 1st
Hololive surely plans to have a busy month

>> No.7224257

10 more minutes for Marine to squeeze out a solid base before the final costume tease shoots her above 100k. If she can get 90k or even 100k before the final tease, she might beat her previous costume. 137k is still really high, so I'm not expecting her to beat it.

>> No.7224259

What tf is wrong with holobronies? Why do more people show up for costume reveals than 3D streams?

>> No.7224278

>>7224257
Reaching 100k is just a matter of time. I'm expecting a peak of 120k

>> No.7224284

>>7224240
does this mean no one tabs out from anime girls in skimpy swimwear

>> No.7224286

>>7224240
I thought so too but it is more because of the scale. A drop and rise of a couple of hundreds viewers in a certain time span shows as a small imperfection in a 90k viewers graph but as a huge bump in a 5k viewers chart.

>> No.7224322

>>7224257
she is probably waiting for a high enough number before ever showing it

>> No.7224326

>>7224278
Yup it's a lock for 100k, the question is just the peak.

>>7224259
Don't worry, they show up for 3D lives too.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/RY_5mn2EY6s
Some holomems are more popular than others.

>> No.7224352

>>7224322
She isn't Pekora

>> No.7224366

>>7224352
anon I.

>> No.7224386

>>7224326
>https://holo.poi.cat/stream/RY_5mn2EY6s
This one took 15 min to 100k, I doubt the costume reveal will reach that one

>> No.7224459

>barely 97k when no other holo is streaming
Quite low. What a recline. This should be 120k+.

>> No.7224460

they always start the real tease at around 40 minutes in

>> No.7224461

that zipper swimsuit pushed it to 100k

>> No.7224465

>>7224326
Those are some pretty underwhelming numbers considering it was the entire 3rd gen. This is literally just Marine getting new clothes for her badly rigged 2D model. I don't understand.

>> No.7224490

Costume reveal now views increasing massively

>> No.7224500
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>>7223820
DOGEZA NOW

>> No.7224568
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7224568

>100k 40 min in

>> No.7224595

Why are anons surprised costume reveals gets more live viewers upto 100k. This has been a regular.

The only sign Holo reclined is when the top members gets less than 40k for such reveal. Fucking newfags, don't ruin the numbers thread.

>> No.7224599

>>7224465
Marine is the second most popular Holo after Pekora. Whats to understand, she always gets massive numbers when she does special streams

>> No.7224623

Unless Marine really drags this out to the last minute by going inch by inch, it's not beating 130k. Still great numbers regardless.

>>7224465
>I don't understand
Ofc you don't if you think 139k for anything is underwhelming. Only the most hyped Niji 3D debuts and koshien can get those numbers. WTF new numberfags.

>> No.7224786

For reference:
Marin FEET : 110K
Gura FEET : 160K

>> No.7224804

POG Marine is dragging this inch by inch, we're getting 130k boysssss

>> No.7224811

>>7224386
Satisfied now? get out

>> No.7224815

130k is granted now

>> No.7224842

>>7224595
AFAIK only 3 costume reveals for HoloJP got 100k+ in 2021
>Subaru
>Ayame
>Coco

Two of three were special cases too:
>Coco departure
>Ayame return

In 2020, it was Marine, Shion and Noel crossing 100k, with Noel and Marine doing it in the peak "event season" for Holo with Miko and Coco returning in the days around it

Marine is 5k away from beating her reveal in 2020 tho, huge incline

>> No.7224874

>>7224623
>it's not beating 130k
You spoke too soon

>> No.7224878

>>7224811
Sorry wrong quote, meant for >>7224459

>> No.7224914

>>7224811
>satisfied
VERY! Sexy numbers I can fap to are always welcome

>> No.7224961
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7224961

KNEEL YOU KEKS
KNEEEEEEEEEL

>> No.7224985

136k peak from what I've seen. Very good numbers indeed.

>> No.7224997
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>> No.7225002

135k is pretty damn good considering this was a snap reveal announced just a few days ago

>> No.7225014

The absolute state of holobronies. Almost as mnay people watched this stupid shit than the full 3rd gen 3D concert. Is Cover's 3D really that shit to turn off so many people?

>> No.7225016

>>7224961
Kek. This probably best her top from last year since this is working against the weird culling thing that YT has going on. Even ignoring this, this is still a phenomenal number indicative of her popularity.

>> No.7225046

>>7225002
Wasn't it only yesterday?

>> No.7225068

136k peak vs. 137k for last year's costume

>> No.7225071
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7225071

> 1k from beating her 2020 numbers
Strong as fuck performance

>> No.7225074

>>7225046
it doesnt even have 24hrs

>> No.7225101

>>7225014
KNEEEL YOU KEK
KNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL

>> No.7225104

it really took her 45 minutes to reveal everything?

>> No.7225115
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7225115

pretty good number. pretty good outfit.

>> No.7225145

>>7225046
Ha, yea, this wasn't even a few days, this was literally announced yesterday, ,23 hours ago.

>> No.7225159

>>7225068
holy recline

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>>7225002
Not few days but yesterday. Jops were doomposting it kek

>> No.7225177

unlike other outfit reveals, marine's only lost barely 10k live after the main reveal, impressive

>> No.7225198

>>7225159
KNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

>> No.7225212

>>7225002
Indeed, the pace of turn around is amazing. Bunch of lurkers not showing up on regular broadcasts

>> No.7225226

>>7225176
>Jops

>> No.7225244

>>7225176
So this board really does suck 2ch/5ch cock.

>> No.7225251
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7225251

>> No.7225285

>>7225159
Goddamn. Just announced yesterday and only 136k showed up. Weak.

>> No.7225298

>>7225176
>it would be a miracle to reach 100k
We are the superior numberfags, just don't scroll up to where anons were predicting 80-90k

>> No.7225301

The day Marine and Gura collabs is the day Gura's outfit numbers will be beaten

>> No.7225340

>>7223820
get fucked

>> No.7225353

>>7225244
You only realized this?

>> No.7225384

>>7223820
LOL

>> No.7225402
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>>7225244
we suck eachother. they also post our shit.

>> No.7225410
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>>7223820
APOLOGIZE

>> No.7225429

>>7225298
Anyone predicting less than 100k is a complete retard. It's fucking Marine, she pulls 40k for zatsudans.

>> No.7225430

>>7225402
ants

>> No.7225435

>>7223820
SUCK MY DICK

>> No.7225437

>>7225145
>>7225212
Gives a good estimate on the Hololive “captive” audience: 140k without tourists or “weekly casuals”

>> No.7225467

Pekora's outfit will go 150k and beyond considering the wait for it.

>> No.7225514

>anons getting enthusiastic for getting an estimate correct
That is kinda passing the opposite message anons, that’s getting to
>US WINS 1-1
tier of celebration

>> No.7225533

>>7225176
>rrat post
>roommate post
>doom post
>horny post
>UOOOOOH post
We really are the same...

>> No.7225565
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7225565

Marine killed it with the numbers today and went to debuff her numbers for tomorrow's 3D live unfortunately.
>telling everyone again that it's pre-recorded, which kills a bit of hype
>saying other holomems can feel free to stream overlapping it
We probably won't see 135k tomorrow.

>> No.7225639

>>7225565
Nobody will overlap except for maybe some superchat readings

>> No.7225671

>Suisei Singing vs Kanata Host Club
who are (You) betting on?

>> No.7225687

>137k~
Seems paltry since no one else was streaming. Marine should have cleared 145k.

>> No.7225705

>>7225639
I think so too, or maybe Kanata will do a watch-along stream again like last time. I just think she's debuffing her numbers too much so it probably won't reach the peak of her last 3D stream, which had all the most popular holomems (her genmates) anyways.

>> No.7225713

>>7223728
Pretty close

>> No.7225721

>>7225429
Olympics has been making fools of us all.

>> No.7225723

>>7225671
40k for hoshimati
25k for leech

>> No.7225740

>>7225671
Oof Kanata Host club is tough competition. Might be the first time Suzy doesn't get 33k+ for a karaoke stream in a while.

>> No.7225745

10 minutes into Lain's monetization and she's at $17k already, not bad at all

>> No.7225768

>>7225402
>he unironically thinks that this would make him look better

>> No.7225769

>>7225068
Not a recline if you considering it was only announced 23 hours prior, facing off with the Olympics, and the Youtube live view bug.

>> No.7225802

>>7225437
>140k without tourists or “weekly casuals”
So only regular viewers come to costume reveals? How does this make any sense?

>> No.7225842

>>7225723
Please don't call her a leech.
Call her by her real name Coco's friend

>> No.7225846

>>7225723
Ahahahaha beaten by leech alrd

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7225849

>>7225769
and the passersby (views)

>> No.7225853

Hololive Top 10 highest concurrent live views (holostats)
21/07/01 491,342 Coco Graduation stream
21/05/07 194,140 Gura Costume reveal
20/10/21 145,305 Miko 3D Return stream
20/10/21 140,116 Noel Costume reveal
21/07/03 139,393 Marine 1M gen3 3DLive
20/10/18 137,900 Marine Costume reveal
21/07/29 136,068 Marine 2nd Costume reveal
21/05/03 135,527 Mori Costume reveal
20/12/13 128,528 Pekora Pekomama debut
21/05/27 126,480 Subaru Costume reveal

20/12/31 123,926 Hololive NYE stream
20/11/13 119,493 Gura 2nd karaoke stream
20/08/14 113,092 Botan Hololive debut
21/01/31 111,367 Nene Costume reveal
20/11/08 109,860 Rushia Gen3 Smashbros
21/05/02 109,792 Ayame Costume reveal
20/07/05 109,528 Kanata 3D debut
20/06/27 108,689 Coco 3D debut
21/0718 108,004 Rushia 2nd anniversary
21/06/23 107,020 Coco costume reveal
20/07/12 105,716 Watame 3D debut
20/08/12 103,408 Lamy Hololive debut
21/05/07 101,843 Amelia Costume reveal
20/11/15 101,171 Shion Costume reveal
21/05/09 100,436 Aqua 2nd 3DLive

Gen3 hold the most 100k, coco and marine tied.

>> No.7225861

So...this is it for the Nijicucks huh
...

>> No.7225898

Lain monetization seems to be going great
lauren apex numbers on the other hand, they arent bad in the genral scop of things but is far less than i expected

>> No.7225901

>>7225802
It was a 24 hours in advance stream from a streamer that most thought wouldn’t be doing lives.

>> No.7225941

>>7225745
>>7225898
This girl draws GFE crowds? or savior fags?

>> No.7225950

>>7225745
Yeah that's pretty good for a Niji girl. I can't believe they're still throwing money at her after all the unicorn-killing moves she did, like doing a lot of Apesex with the guys and literally telling her viewers about it. Maybe Nijifans really love NTR?

>> No.7225953

>>7225861
Our 3D lives get these numbers and Marine reclined. Her live tomorrow won't get 120k views.
>>7225898
Skill doesn't bring all the boys to the yard. Wait for his ship with Axia to take off.

>> No.7225988
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>https://youtu.be/RtZGPY4pif8
From Lain's monetisation stream.

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huh the new kadokawa vtuber isn't doing too badly, especially considering it's a premier not a livestream

>> No.7225996

>>7225898
$20k in 15mins is really good for Lain. Lauren's numbers are probably suffering due to competition. There's 2 Koshien streams going on rn (Ange, Haruka)

>> No.7226004

>>7225950
I am a gachikoi for not saying, not all of us are unicorns.

>> No.7226028

>>7225941
Holofags and flarefags. It's nearly a year already that they haven't released a new JP 6. They're starving to throw cash to a new girl hoping they'll see them.

>> No.7226063

>>7226028
Gen 6 in October.

>> No.7226077

It's early days but I thought the APEX fags who they clearly want to be the new Chronovoir or whatever them faggots are called would be more popular but aren't.

>> No.7226085

>>7226063
how about EN2 prophetsama?

>> No.7226109

>>7226085
After Shion's anniversary on the 17th

>> No.7226127

>>7226109
Shion is graduating soon though.

>> No.7226130

Its a numbers bloodbath right now. Stiff competition.

>> No.7226131

>>7226109
Which anonymous cover manager tip this info off whistleblower-chama?

>> No.7226138

>>7226131
Jenma slapped Jchad in front of yagoo

>> No.7226143

>>7225953
Nijibro, you mean 2 of your 3D debuts got these numbers, namely Kagami and Fuwa. NJU had a 15 Nijis, many amongst the most popular ones, and didn't get 130k. You might as well list Koshien streams.
https://playboard.co/en/video/A6jnAB4c7xQ

>Marine reclined
It's not a recline if she got only 1k less than her last costume after only announcing this stream 23 hrs ago.

>> No.7226152

>>7226130
What bloodbath? Marine mogs them all today

>> No.7226163

what is kanata doing? she is moggin everyone

>> No.7226178

>>7226163
Host club totsumachi

>> No.7226179

>>7226152
I think he meant right now, after marine ended

>> No.7226185

>>7226163
totsumachi with her ikemen voice

>> No.7226200

>>7226152
>Right now
Read anon... Many big streams that would normally get 30k+ going on rn.

>> No.7226207
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EXPLAIN THIS NIJIKEKS

>> No.7226213

I recall super chat limit is $2000 a month for one account. Is this true?

>> No.7226227

>>7226207
I CAN SAVE FPS SHAKA

>> No.7226242

>>7226207
i'll never understand aqua's numbers. I was expecting <10k now

>> No.7226248

>>7226213
2000 a week, I'm pretty sure

>> No.7226251

>>7226143
>NJU
I mean, that one was on blue oni's channel. Most Nijifans wouldn't want to give her views.

>> No.7226259

>>7226227
No you can't anon. FPS Shaka streams 400-500 hours a month. Dude has a death wish and is going to end up dying on stream from overwork.

>> No.7226273

>>7226242
She's playing umamusume gacha. All it's missing is baseball and it'd be japanese crack

>> No.7226275

>>7226242
She is whalling for the new summer banner
gacha pulling alwasy get numebrs

>> No.7226279

>>7226207
FGO puts all v to shame, mass graduation imminent.

>> No.7226299

>>7226242
She would be at 20k if Suisei and Kanata weren't also doing their best kind of content rn. Uma Musume gacha is an easy 18k+ for Aqua.

>> No.7226326

>>7226273
Yea, the longer her suffering the better her numbers get tends to be the trend for these gacha streams.
I predicted a floor of 90k for marine, with the assumption of minimal teasing, but she drew that one out haaaard and I'm glad she did, bllwing away my minimum expectations.

>> No.7226341

$24k for Lain now, she's surpassed Irys's monetization

>> No.7226348

>>7226207
>doing very well
>talked about guys a lot on streams and twitter BEFORE her first superchat stream
>significant drop in CCV
Man, that was such a bad move from Lain. This is why Niji girls will never be able to stand on the same level as Hololive.

>> No.7226355

>>7226163
Newfag again.

FYI, this is like one of those Subaru non-regular variety streams.

>> No.7226401

>>7226341
Nijisanji has been artificially buffing their SC numbers, it's not surprising.

Buffing - SC is part of their ad expense.

>> No.7226420

>>7226401
Stop spreading lies. This is a numbers thread. Post proof or fuck off.
t. holofag

>> No.7226426
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>suichan catching up to kanatan rn

>> No.7226475

Leos will go to 30-40k for SC.

>> No.7226641

>>7226475
Is his audience the whaling kind? I thought people tuned in for the concentrated nijiautism, doesnt sound like the most supafriendly viewership. Or is it the saviourfags that will supa him?

>> No.7226671

>>7226641
Lying or not he's already weaved the poorfag narrative and he's popular.

>> No.7226688

>>7226641
he's gonna milk his poorfag status. Which might just be the character he's playing

>> No.7226803

As soon as Aqua got her pulls, her numbers dropped and Suisei+Kanata both picked up a few thousand more viewers.

>> No.7226816

>>7226803
That's gacha streams for you

>> No.7227034

>the shapes fit us
Is Mori drunk already?

>> No.7227061

Predictions on IRyS+Mori collab? I'm expecting 24k, only Miko and Watame go compete against right now.

>> No.7227096

>>7227034
Nah, the wannabe class clown in her comes out to play from time to time.

>> No.7227152

$28k for Lain now and she could hit 200k subs this stream if she stretches it out which would give her even more

>> No.7227178

>>7227061
game is boring, it will probably keep bleeding views now

>> No.7227236

>>7227061
I doubt it, it's not a particularly interesting game and it's not the primetime for either of them.

>> No.7227276

>>7227236
>>7227152
Yea, I'm watching this and it looks far more fun to play than watch. Oh well.

>> No.7227322

>Mori stream is neither on Playboard nor on Holostats
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCL_qhgtOy0dy1Agp8vkySQg/videos
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/calliope

Maybe they amended the API so shadowbanned streams won’t be returned there too?
That would be great news because it would give proof a streamers is shadow banned and a way to appeal to Youtube

>> No.7227329

they should raise the game's music volume

>> No.7227339

>>7226259
look at him, he looks so skinny. I am worried

>> No.7227344

>>7227061
20k the game is nice to play but boring to watch.

>> No.7227371

>>7227322
It's not shadowbanned though, it shows up just fine.

>> No.7227391

Am I blind or holostats isn't tracking anything with Irys lately? Last one tracked was guerilla apex 4 days ago and it's not tracking this collab with Mori either.

>> No.7227403

>>7227322
doesnt seem shadowbanned as it shows if you search moris channel ins the search bar
however i thin youtube is rolling some shit on some channels.

>> No.7227456

>>7226348
How can holobronies be this retarded, she already surpassed that fugly vsinger designs Monitization

>> No.7227468

>>7227061
Game is boring and Mori isn’t especially strong in collabs.

>> No.7227490

>>7226401
It's not that nefarious, they "bufff" their number by being over spending freak. You can always see with nijisanji that their individual donations are much large. While holofans are more likely to drop smaller donations in larger numbers

>> No.7227877

>>7227371
>>7227403
Maybe a different type of restriction tho, or even some configuration on the channel itself

>> No.7227966

>>7227391
i mean you are blind since people already talked about it. holostat also lost one of pekoras stream yesterday from what i remember and seems to keep missing streams here and there

>> No.7228006

I'd love to see the numbers for average stream length among HoloEN. I imagine it would go something like this:
Kiara > Ina > Gura > Ame > Mori?

>> No.7228087

>>7227322
>>7227391
>>7227403
It seems something messed whatever code holopoi use to detect both mori and irys ch. Its probably just the change of their type of channels from vtuber to music by jewtube.

>> No.7228146

>>7228087
It’s not showing for Moona either, or the latest Pekora stream

>> No.7228203

>>7228087
Chocos yesterday CoD stream is also missing

>> No.7228247

>>7227490
Lain's average superchat amount today was $11, while the last 5 Holo streams above $25k had averages of $27, $27, $21, $29 and $37

>> No.7228315

>>7227456
Well that one is a fucking abomination, of course no one's gonna throw huge money at her. You can't deny that Lain can do much better if Niji didn't fuck her over by putting her with 4 other males and if she herself didn't act like other Nijiwhore that joined Niji to play around with men.
I'm not saying interacting with males is off limit like top Hololive girls, but she should at least act like she didn't enjoy it and prioritize interacting with other female vtuber instead, like Tomoe.

>> No.7228563

>>7228315
Irys gets consistent SCs though. People are throwing money at her. And if the model is the only factor why people throw money at vtubers then Lain should get more money. They only have a $5k gap

>> No.7228566

Axia looks to be about 10k less than Lain.

>> No.7228930

>>7228315
Anon maybe numbers aren’t that important as it clearly shown that despite that abomination having higher subs, it means jack shit.

Niji works differently and it’s fucking good that autistic unicorns piss off before they cause problems

>> No.7229054

>>7228315
Tomoe still interacts with males dipshit

>> No.7229141

>>7223981
Actually true, but this is what everyone should do!

>> No.7229407

>>7228315
>at least act like she didn't enjoy it and prioritize interacting with other female vtuber instead, like Tomoe
The baffling ignorance. Cringe.

>> No.7229524 [DELETED] 

>>7228930
>Anon maybe numbers aren’t that important as it clearly shown that despite that abomination having higher subs, it means jack shit.
What are you even talking about? You know subs don't correlate with SCs right? Rushia is not the most subbed holomember.

>Niji works differently and it’s fucking good that autistic unicorns piss off before they cause problems
Lulu literally graduated because of stalkers. Can't say the same for anyone in Hololive.

>> No.7229602

>>7228930
>Anon maybe numbers aren’t that important as it clearly shown that despite that abomination having higher subs, it means jack shit.
What are you even talking about? You know subs don't correlate with SCs right? Rushia is not the most subbed holomember.

>Niji works differently and it’s fucking good that autistic unicorns piss off before they cause problems
Lulu literally graduated because of stalkers, Nijis have their own unicorns too.

>> No.7229727

>>7228930
>Niji works differently and it’s fucking good that autistic unicorns piss off before they cause problems
It probably won't stop super schizo unicorn stalker from stalking her irl if that's what you're talking about. So I don't see any reason for them to intentionally chase away their golden goose.
>>7229054
I didn't say she doesn't. But you can't deny that the top female Nijis like Mito/Lize/Lulu or big SC earner like Tomoe are different than other Nijiwhores. They keep their interactions with male as business-like as possible, actually, some don't even interact with male that much in the first place, that's why they're successful.

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AND THE WINNER OF THE DAY IS
>Kanatan
Massive numbers after all girls got funneled into the same starting slot by the Marine outfit reveal

>> No.7229979

>>7229727
Who are the top SC earners in Niji that are females and do they all limit their interactions with dudes? Just asking

>> No.7229980

>>7229876
lol I'm pretty sure Marine is the winner of today. Kanata "only" getting 33k with a novelty stream like host club is a bit disappointing, but mostly because she struggled to find guests for her call-ins. Suisei would've definitely gotten more than 30k if she wasn't overlapping with Kanata too. Between Irys getting 30k, Calli + Irys getting 20k, Miko getting 20k, today was a pretty good day for Holos overall, with Pekora not even streaming at night too.

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7230072

already passed kanatan

>> No.7230084

>>7229876
>>7229980
For comparison, these were Okayu's numbers when she did her host club call-in stream. 47k peak.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/JG48VfeF5tQ

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>>7227152
Good and all that she got $29k for the first monetizationbut she's still a niji. IRyS was lucky enough to get $24k too. Lain has more money since she's on JP. Aside from that, IRyS is basically printing money by being a holo and stream every day. Lain however, she's fated to earn less on every stream but more on events. Look at another niji (female and male) and tell me if they could hit more or less $1k for every stream.

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>>7230072
Temaki has an all star cast with him

>>7230084
>>7229980
Kanata is kanata, 33k for her head to head with Suisei is not a bad showing

>> No.7230230

>>7230072
she rarely does this good, Maybe she'll go back to Holo after doing Niji collabs.

>> No.7230246

>>7230072
Popular host + popular artist + 3 popular holos = big numbers. Meanwhile, I not sure if Kanata managed to get 4 guests today for her host stream lol

>> No.7230316

>>7230072
She has Ui, Subaru and Rushia with her. Tamaki with Rushia, Sara, Ui gets easy 20k but if you add Subaru who herself gets 15k on a regular stream and Noel with 5k on hers, 33k is a cakewalk

>> No.7230320

>>7229979
>Who are the top SC earners in Niji that are females
Chihiro and Tomoe are the ones i found who are bellow 4 male niji talents if i saw right. Chihiro seems to hang out with some dudes dunno about Tomoe but most likely.
still 35 place in total sc after 3 years for Chihiro is all kinds of sad
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-total

>> No.7230364

>>7230246
She managed to get 4 holos but she mostly talked to chat. It's supposed to be a punishment game so her suffering like that is part of the stream.

>> No.7230384

Speaking of missing data for some reason playboard doesn't have this Petra stream listed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sxm-7_8Mu8
Wanted to see how much she earned in that stream.

>> No.7230446

>>7230230
She is one of those vtubers who streams on bilibili so she's been distancing herself from Holo ever since the chinkout. Hopefully these numbers convince her to come back to hololive.

>> No.7230455

>>7230384
Selen's last stream is also missing

>> No.7230461

Anon I have a question how work the views in stream? bc I see when one vtuber is in live have a 230 view but in the end of the stream had a 2.5k view.

>> No.7230535

>>7230461
youtube pajeet space magic, don't ask us because we don't know either.

>> No.7230536

>>7230320
*After 3.5 years.
Not really considering that 95% of her streams is Apex and she doesn't really do any big/celebration streams.

>> No.7230551

>>7230461
YouTube’s mess of a site at work.

>> No.7230558

>>7230461
Viewers that just checks out the stream, basically watch enough for YouTube to register one view and then dips out (for stable viewership).

>> No.7230568

>>7230461
People come and go during a stream. The 10k people at the start are not the same as the 10k at the end. Every view counts as long as they watched for longer than 30s, unless the video is shorter than 30s.

>> No.7230655
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>>7228315
>Tomoe
???

>> No.7230672

>>7230461
No one knows, but don't underestimate viewerchurn. Pikamee had some viewership statistics the other week, and the average view time was ridiculously low, probably explained by churn and non-tabbed streams not counting

>> No.7230696

>>7230461
Imagine backpedaling to Holo after they survived the chink out and gained greater popularity. The same for niji. I liked Kagura Mea before but she avoided aqua during the debacle. Fast forward today, she's stagnating without Aqua. Even the last ditch of help from tamaki collab wouldn't do her any good.

>>7230461
Only Susahn knows. Don't ask anyone for answers. There's times when a 90k live debut had 10k post views after 40 minutes. But then there's more post views with less live viewers in a 30 minutes stream. For the former, everyone called me out for implying Leos debut as viewbotted kek

>> No.7230803

>>7230536
its sad that despite what you said she still has the highest totals from all the Niji females

>> No.7230897

>>7230446
She has featured Kiara, Choco, Azki, Anya, Reine, Iofi and Roberu on her interview streams. She has also collabed with Rushia in a group setting a lot and even had Mea with Rushia together. She has had Aqua and Suisei as well in other collabs. Her distancing herself has not been thing since the beginning of 2021. But even 2020, she still collabed with a number of Holos. She only really avoided Coco

>> No.7230964

>>7230897
Most of those streams happened within the past two months, for the period between the chinkout and may of this year you wouldn't know who she was if you only watched hololive. It's only in the past few months that she got back to collabing with hololive regularly again.

>> No.7230976

>>7230803
I still fail to see what exactly is sad about that?

>> No.7230995

>>7230897
She's avoided gen 5 entirely, probably because they're fairly disliked and unpopular in Japan

>> No.7230998

>>7230897
why no Coco though? They were huge friends before

>> No.7231022

>>7230224
What was the peak? I think i saw 38K, pretty damn good.

>> No.7231116

>>7230995
Lamy will be on the next babumi roundtable (alongside Noel, Mio and Ui).
Nene has interacted with Warabe from NoriPro on a totsumachi.

>> No.7231130

>>7230446
>she's been distancing herself from Holo ever since the chinkout
Wut? She was collabing with Aqua of all people in the peak of the chinkout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVhOfBVi0_k

I don't have the data to back that with numbers but eyeballing his channel shows he has as many collabs with Holos before the chinkout as she has after it

>> No.7231169

>>7229979
>Chihiro
Apex with dudes almost ALL the time, countless time collab with Chronoir. As a Gen 1 used to partner with Hajime which is the ONLY male in Nijisanji.

>Tomoe
Despite being a real lesbian she plays with her genmate Fuwa and Gwelu very often, also one on one collab with the classic Niji male vtuber like Belmond and Kanda several times. Even has one on one with holostars.

>Inui
Literally played couple joke with belmond on big concert. But overall do not have much collab with male, but not because of gender cause she rarely collab with anyone except Suisei and Sanbaka

>Gundou
Literally ship with Kanda. Almost fuck on stream.

>Lize
Very actively collab with EVERYONE. And has a brother/sister nichijou voice pack with Chaika.

>Ars
Collabed with multiple male Vtuber and especially ship with Ex Albio.

and back then we have Gibara which are also very actively collab with male vtuber.

Those who limit themself from collab with male in Niji are pretty much don't collab at all in the first place(Alice and Aki).

>> No.7231172

>>7230446
Don’t follow Mea at all, is she still getting big “views” on Bilibili and concerts?

>> No.7231182

>>7231130
That wasn't the peak of the chinkout, back then Aqua and Mea were both still scheduled to go on that bilibili sponsored concert thing that turned out to be a shitshow.

>> No.7231219

>>7230964
She had a stream with a holo/holos every month even before this past 2 months.
>>7230995
It's more like Polka is avoiding her. Lamy will show up soon. Nene is close with one of the Noripro. Botan is the only one that doesn't have future streams with her and she's the mot popular.
>>7230998
Taiwan

>> No.7231289

>>7230964
>>7231182
>Most of those streams happened within the past two months

Oct 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pCB668wImo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pCB668wImo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pCB668wImo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l8VfQcIppM

Nov 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=belskf28m4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maS78i_rB6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1fEju9xV_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svXzqXg8Xrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtPkWiLeVnE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-NW37VP67I

Please don't make me fetch Dec 2020, Jan 2021 and so on, this should be enough evidence he is collabing just fine with Holos the whole time

>> No.7231309

sudden decline in koshien views across all members is quite suspicious
i assume at least 10k were botted

>> No.7231367

>>7231309
Numbers are numbers, you don't really judge their origin, only their relative size to other numbers.
It doesn't matter if they come because of ads, company padding SC from their pockets, botting, "leeching" or whatever.

In the end of the day
>big number > small number

>> No.7231371

>>7231219
>Polka is avoiding her
What's the rrat? Wasnt they super close previously?

>> No.7231392

>>7231289
Uops, Oct 2020 got the streams pasted multiple times, won't go back to fetch the correct links tho, they're there somehwere

>> No.7231418
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Number predictions?

>> No.7231458

>>7231418
500k or it’s a failure

>> No.7231462

>>7231371
There is no rrat. Polka is a new persona. Her instantly collabing with people she already knows will just draw people to her old persona which she probably don't want. She wants grow as Polka so distancing herself makes sense. They will probably collab sooner or later. Polka already knows Subaru and Towa beforehand but pretends they just met them and acts as a proper kouhai

>> No.7231463

>>7231309
Not that anyone would care about, Niji had always been playing dirty. They could afford to do anything that could boost their numbers and no one would have any evidence for it.

>> No.7231466

>>7231371
Which is exactly the reason. Back then their character is Tamaki simping for Polka,or should i say Nobuhime. And basically Tamaki simp for Nobuhime but she never got chance to collab with her.
That character set up makes it 100x more cringe when she collab with Tamaki with 'Polka'.

>> No.7231467

>>7231418
30-40k, possibly 50k since it's her first stream in awhile.

>> No.7231496

>>7231458
Same anon here, I clearly mean 50k. Sorry for my mental spasm

>> No.7231515

>>7231463
>NOOOO NIJI CAN'T POSSIBLY HAS HIGHER NUMBER
Look at the past week Niji absolutely dominates
>Noooo BOTSBOTSBOTSBOTS

>> No.7231520

>>7231371
Yes they were very close newfag

>> No.7231545

>>7231515
>past week Niji absolutely dominates
That’s not my recollection. When you say “past week” what is the exact range you mean so people can cross check?

>> No.7231591

>>7225853
>20/10/18 137,900 Marine Costume reveal
>21/07/29 136,068 Marine 2nd Costume reveal

This is her second costume, and she gets similar numbers after the youtube bonk. Hololive is inclining.

>> No.7231688
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>>7191607
Today's numbers

>> No.7231698

>>7231418
40K

>> No.7231710

>>7231688
S-Sugoi

>> No.7231729

>>7231591
b-but my holo decline rrats...

>> No.7231732

>>7231688
FGO kneels to Marine

>> No.7231758

>>7231418
20-30k she really has reclined alot when it comes to active viewers, most will wait for the clip channels to upload the songs.

>> No.7231821

>>7231367
>Numbers are numbers, you don't really judge their origin
hello retard, are you new here

>> No.7231861

>>7231309
More like people are more excited for the first few streams = more viewers. It's basically the same phenomenon as streaming story games, the farther into the game, the less viewers you get (ofc there are exceptions like Pekora's FF10 playthrough).

>> No.7231870

>>7231545
Probably starting from the 20th. Well it's easy to point the day out. It's when the drafting for baseball starts. Anyway, view botting is still up for question but I wouldn't trust it that much. It's easier to hide if they put out 5-10k viewbots since they fall within the expected range for an event stream.

>> No.7232056

>>7231732
>90k+
>75k+
>84k+
FGO's anniversary streams are doing surprisingly well everyday for a franchise people were calling dead.

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>>7231870
>20th
I don't think it was the 20th and it can't have been a full week too, given that Haachama's return most likely broke whatever streak Niji had going

>> No.7232247

>>7232056
They're just stretching their game at this point to remain relevant. Recently, they put out the 6th map/story after months. The last chapter is probably next year. If they still want to make money though, their best option is to make vtubers from their characters, presumably the 7 servants from their first series. It'd be super funny though. They can literally contend with Sony vtubers next years because those 7 characters already gained huge popularity around the world and had widespread memes from it.

>> No.7232312

I love Hololive. I love their songs. My favorite singers are Polka > Suisei > Flare > Towa > Irys > Gura in that order. I like what I like. And as a holofag, stop trying to say BS like bots. Niji's views aren't that different historically.

>> No.7232328

>>7232247
They'll have to pay for the very same professional VAs who voiced those characters to become vtubers, and there's no way professional VA are going to agree to drop everything to become streamers. It just doesn't work out financially or career wise.

>> No.7232378
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>>7232247
>Kurumi will never be a vtuber who sucks your money instead of your life time to replenish herself
I know, not the same franchise but I can really see the whole "cute anime girls, but live action and interactive" gaining traction if they would find the right voice actor for the character which remains faithful to the original while being able to improvise

>> No.7232402

>>7232312
>My favorite singers are Polka > Suisei
Anon, plz
>CONFIRMED FOR BOT
How did you even got past the "I'm not a robot" captcha?

>> No.7232405

>>7232247
They’re delaying shit because this is supposed to the final arc for the MC and their world.
They brought up that they were thinking of making a FGO2 and it will get met with a lot of backlash if everything doesn’t transfer over.

>> No.7232412

>>7232312
I have Ai Dee on loop at this point btw as well as all of Kanata's covers. I just favor the girls above more for Karaokes

>> No.7232413

>>7232247
If they're still getting numbers like that for their streams they're still doing well in terms of popularity, stretched or not. Companies like Squeenix have a dozen smaller games that don't even beat your average mid-tier holo's daily average when doing anniversary streams.
>>7232328
Agreed. Professional VA also doesn't automatically mean they have the skills to be an entertaining streamer for hours at a time. This might have worked back in the Kizuna Ai days of prerecorded and edited vids but not likely now.

>> No.7232419

Marine superchat was pretty low i guess they are saving their load for the 3D?

>> No.7232446

>>7232402
Again. I like what I like.

>> No.7232449

>>7232328
Nah, they just need to find people with a similar voice, sufficient knowledge of the character and act. Fate literally has carnival phantasm, I don't think fans would mind that much if they create vtuber avatars for their characters. Gilgamesh would be raking in money from people though holy shit

>> No.7232454

>>7232419
That and her merch, she's mentioned that there'd be alot of stuff coming out for her anniversary and they'll be pretty expensive.

>> No.7232502

>>7232419
>>7232454
Her birthday tomorrow

>> No.7232534
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7232534

>>7232449
>Gilgamesh would be raking in money from people though holy shit
I can only think how much better Anya would be if she adopted the personality and demeanor of Ishtar
>or how much money Ishtar would make by demanding jewels from her subjects

>> No.7232539

>>7232502
and then her anniversary...

>> No.7232547

>>7232449
VAs are expensive as fuck, anon.
Also Fate characters are so intertwined with their VA that it will just piss people off.

>> No.7232623

>>7232449
I hate to say that you "can't" do that because nothing is absolute, but the example of Gamebu and to a lesser extent Kizuna AI shows that you cannot simply switch out a voice actor like this, and the record in the Anime industry supports this as well. Unless there's a very good reason (Mostly illness, age or scheduling issues), changing VAs for a character will be met with extreme amounts of backlash which you absolutely cannot afford to have when debuting a new vtuber.

It's going to end up like that sakura taisen mobile game where most of your old audience will pan it as a cynical cash grab and you won't be able to get new audiences because all anyone would know about it is the negative reception.

>> No.7232663

>>7232449
Seiyuufags can get pretty rabid, and you're underestimating the effort needed to pretend to be someone you aren't for hours on a live stream while multitasking a game or zatsudan, without a script.
Probably better to use their expertise in crafting likeable characters to write new ones based around no-name streamers to minimize personality disconnect, then launch a Type-Moon vtubing setting, and even then I'm not entirely convinced it would work.

>> No.7232680

>>7232449
Saber had the same voice for almost 20 years, what the heck are you talking about.

>> No.7232693

>>7231688
IRyS hit 30k briefly though...

>> No.7232826

>>7232547
>>7232623
>>7232663
>>7232680
Well, if you point it like that, then i guess they can't. My dream won't be fulfilled. I'm still gonna hold onto that hope though. Even if they can't stream all that much, just Shiro and Gilgamesh playing apex would be peak entertainment.

>> No.7232829

>>7232693
Only Holostats can catch that number, but it malfunctions recently. (Maybe we should screenshot for evidences)

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>>7232663
So kinda like these guys?

>> No.7232877

>>7232312
Just say who your favorite oshi is and other talents that you enjoy, no need to rank them. Watson doesn't have a great singing technique, but her karaoke streams are very enjoyable.

>> No.7232911

>>7232877
holofags really love tops, tier lists and rankings
i wonder why

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Previous thread
>>7191607

>> No.7232938

>>7232835
Left-most girl is pure sex

>> No.7232972

>>7232911
I enjoy ranking my oshi, but I rank her based of her previous numbers instead of other girls.

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