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Not true its negligible

>>71833052
Sir, the /biz/ board is 4 blocks down.

>>71833425
Biz doesn't have anything to do with stocks and business. It is 100% crypto.

any reactions from their investors yet about this?

>>71833494
I was ready to call you full of shit and went down there to have a look. It's... all memecoins.
I apologise.

>>71833693
Yeah /biz/ went to shit. Still, can someone finally explain what this means properly? How it works?

>>71833776
You can't short Anycolor stock now. They're pretty much pulling every trick to keep bag holders in place while Nijisanji is trying to salvage Q4

>>71833776
>can someone finally explain what this means properly?
The high rollers weren't allowed to sell on Monday and Tuesday because the circuit breaker had been tripped. That restriction has been lifted.
The TSE opens in just two hours. Also Doki will be streaming holocure at the same time

>>71834041
So just that? You can decide that something doesn't get sold and it sticks forever? Doesn't have any limit?

>>71834064
Isn't today an holiday in Japan? And are you sure they are gonna sell down?

>>71833052
How long before this one nuked by Niji Jannys

>>71833052
Sincerely I don't think NijiEN will fall until Q4 crack, or if some other major yab happens first. But I want to see what Riku will do if things start to look really grim.
Soulless milionaries always move when their money is in danger.

>>71833052
have to wait until thursday

>>71834064
Actually, it opens in 26 hours, because the 20th is the Vernal Equinox and Japs have that as a market holiday.

>>71834227
JP market allows this, but you're opening yourself to lawsuits. If Anycolor doesn't pull rabit out of their ass or lift restrictions before next crash, they're gonna pay in grass and ass

>>71833052
>>71833776
So what happened is there are too many short sales; in order to be able to short a stock there needs to be a share to lend out for sale. This is managed in Japan by Nippon Securities Finance Co. Basically they lend money to buy shares, which are then deposited as collateral (margin buying) then loan those shares out to sellers who will need to return them at some point (when the seller can buy it back for less than the original sale price, they hope) - short selling.
They maintain a balance of shares in a fund to lend out in case there are more short sales than margin buys, but if there are too many short sales then they impose restrictions, because otherwise NSF would need to buy additional shares to facilitate the short sale, which isn't in their interest. So that's what's happening now.
Source: https://finance.logmi.jp/articles/180419
This could actually mean Anycolor's stock price goes up significantly in the near future; with new short sales restricted there will be less downward pressure on the share price and current short sellers will need to buy back shares to return them (cover their short) which will push the price up; this can have a cascading effect because if the price goes above where short sellers sold, they can be forced to cover immediately to limit their losses, leading to a buying frenzy.
example: https://kabukiso.com/advice/shinyo00_0010.html

>>71834808
Don't worry, Anycolor consider losing billion of yens negligible.

>>71834808
>>71834844
What kind of lawsuits? How long would it take?
Sounds to me basically that NSF can just decide you go up regardless of what investors actually want to do.

>>71834693
Niji stock gets an undeserved 24 hour reprieve.
That's all this holiday does for them. The next fire sale will happen on Thursday instead of today.

>>71835232
Where does it say the restrictions lifted however?

>>71835379
there are two things going on here, in addition to hitting the maximum 1-day drop in share price on Friday, once Anycolor's stock hit 10% down (must have been within milliseconds of the exchange opening) short-selling restrictions came into effect where you can only sell a stock short at a "rising" price (details here); this restriction stays in effect for the next trading day, in this case Monday
https://www.jpx.co.jp/english/equities/trading/regulations/02.html
This was lifted on Tuesday, and although the stock ended the day up slightly there were more short sales going on, to the point where the supply of shares to be lent out for short sale is insufficient and new short sales cannot be done
tl;dr there were restrictions imposed Friday that carried through into Monday and were released Tuesday, and a different restriction came into effect Tuesday. The new restriction will prevent short sales until there are enough new margin buys or enough existing short positions closed out to make shares available, so I wouldn't expect a big drop because only holders can sell now.

>>71836599
So if holders decide to sell, there is nothing to cushion the fall?

>>71836932
Aside from the limit price, yeah. However, because holders most likely bought the stock when it was in the 3k+ range, it is unlikely that we'll see them sell en masse. It's more likely that they hold and try to weather the drop until the price rises to a point at which they can bail without selling for a major loss.

>>71834844
Disgusting, ugh. Well, there's always June I guess.

LET ME SELL LET ME SELL LET ME SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLL

>>71837216
They saw Tuesday's recovery peter out barely an hour into trading. They know this is as good as it's gonna get.

>>71834041
>trying to salvage Q4
Huæh? They lost both their highest female EN earner and highest subbed female EN chuuba, whose "negligible" termination led to a $200 million mkt cap fall in that week. They also took a massive reputation hit and then kept on delivering bad PR stunts. This is essentially unsalvageable. The only way out is to amputate the entire EN branch. It's so fucking over for NijiEN, I don't think the branch will exist next year.

>>71837584
Not true. The speculation machine already marched forward. They are expecting new speculators who will by to then join the mass selling as usual.
Nothing short of another investor dropping them and nuking the price would do it at this point. Still, there is hope because Tuesday really ended up being rather weak for a stock like this.
A major buy will follow a major sell for sure. But Riku may pull the rug once he has a chance to recoup his losses.

>>71836932
There are market circuit breakers that prohibit any sale that deviates too much from the open price like we saw Friday, but if a holder sells now they're eating a big loss, especially when the stock was up the past 2 days and the short restrictions will reduce selling pressure. Right now they want to at least wait for someshorts to be covered which will add buying pressure.
Obviously this is all short term stuff, but it's worth also keeping in mind that even though growth is well below expectations and EN is falling apart, the company overall is making more money than they were a year ago and still has a lot of cash on hand, so while a big drop in stock price reflects significantly worse future prospects unless big JP talents leave or their fans do the stock is going to find an equilibrium somewhere rather than fall towards 0

Do we know who the major investor is that sold everything?

>>71837767
Fact is, it's the EN Q4 they need to salvage. JP gains are marginal but still gains. The problem is covering the 30% remaining to get to the goal.
Most investors then expect them to open for dividends, which would mean them paying the shareholders money, thing they never did in all years they are active. Of course, poppycock especially at the current price, but idiots will buy everything.

The EN branch has no hope to survive after the summer unless they somehow do a full 180° and rebuild all bridges with the people they fucked over. And Doki may not be receptive at all as her defense of the livers comes with the caviat of being left alone.

They are done for, but refuse to die. They will likely release all 3D possible trying to create hype but that will not bring back fans and definitely don't have the venue or the studio to redo the AR.

>>71837767
Seethe, the real livers worth watching are already back in business as normal

>part of the commerce revenue from nijifes will be counted on Q4
Cheeky bastard

>>71838003
Let's be real, we have all settled to just EN being gone, Japanese are too into the kool-aid of Corpoland to wake up and smell the kurosanji.
I'm just hoping the price drops to a point they will be forced to act.

>>71837767
April 1 is a Monday this year, and Niji EN management is already 3 weeks overdue on the next white paper. Expect something stupid on April Fools Day.

....no, I mean REALLY stupid. I know you're thinking of something stupid they could or would do, but what they'll actually do is probably stupider than that.

>>71838117
They already added the Nijifes to Q3 anon. Adding it again may lend them to lawsuits. Investors are not those they want to lie to.

Inb4 even in the selling of stocks there is going to be a queue.

I don't think my retarded ass will ever understand any this stock stuff no matter how much I read.
Just tell me guys, has this gotten to the point of compromising NijiJP as well?

>>71834844
>>71833052
sounds like a huge fucking scam

>>71838195
Anon, I'm fairly sure after the black video Riku has already turdwrangled them and he's personally holding the buttons. He would not seek to upset even more fans when April is his last chance to make not look like a black hole.

>>71838244
"You're free to sell the stocks at any time!"

>>71837767
they will just come up with some bullshit or outright ignore that shit ever happened in their reports. they are not known to be very honest with those stuff

>>71837767
They cant really amputate them though. They probably want to, they did it to Yumenografia/NijiID/NijiKR/NijiIN after all, but EN is a special case because they promised investors that EN would be their major pillar for 2024. They're locked in.

>>71838305
Yes and no. All of this is happening because of EN. JP alone would be fine.

>>71838314
This is because Japanese economy is too insecure and too pro-corporation. They are afraid of bubbles popping too fast and cause a chain reaction.
As for investors, they are even more tone deaf than Riku when it comes to EN fans. They expect oversaturation to magically work again, unaware that the hobby is too niche and flesh streamer, other companies and indies are way too popular.
As much as Gura is a legend, it's just 6 mil subscribers total. For a normie that is nowhere legendary.

>>71838478
I have no idea how they intend to keep that promise when EN is constantly losing money, and they will for sure lose even more. They would be much better axe it because there is no indication things will get better. They can stabilize at best, but every yab makes them lose more and more.

>>71838003
I want Chihiro to do a stream with Doki to see the JP's reaction.
Language barrier doesn't mean shit when she's got "Yeah! Yeah! Armor! Yeah! Yeah! Fuck I'm hit!"

What I don't get about this is, how can the stock brokers or whoever's in charge of these restrictions possibly act like Anycolor deserves tk be defended from short-sellers. THEY are the ones that made that possible with the margin trading that was supposed to give their stock a "fair value". They made the riskiest play, but don't have the face the consequences.

>stock is so fucked you can't even short it
absolute kek

>>71839255
They've been mutuals on twitter for a while now along with NotGundou
And Chihiro is her oshi too of course, so it's definitely only a matter of when, not if

lol this but Anycolor

>>71839545
Yeah, I'm pretty sure she mentioned wanting to play with Doki, and Doki definitely always wanted to play with Chihiro, so it'd be amazing to see since I hear she's kind of a big deal over there even post Niji.

>>71839582
this but Anycolor investors talking to Riku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAlCbE-yCTw

>>71838767
"How" is anyone's guess, but they have to. They promised international expansion will happen, you can bet that investors will hold Riku at gunpoint to make it happen somehow. But their Q4 report will be more of a bloodbath, it took some of their streamers until now to recover and stream properly.

If Doki was Anycolor's Chernobyl, then Sayu was Ignalina

>>71834041
>You can't short Anycolor stock now.
At all???
Isn't shorting done trough a broker? Or is it different in Japan?

>>71838003
The situation isn't quite as good as it looks for JP either. They had ~20% growth, but that was on the back of Nijifes moving back a quarter. If you take that out of the equation they had the smallest YoY % growth of any Q3 in their history.

>>71838767
Call in every favor and get a bunch of rich cunts to bulk buy tickets for the Niji concert at Singapore as one of the steps kek.

>>71833052
Kuronobyl more like.

>>71833494
/smg/ is pretty much the Hololive Global of /biz/. You could ask them to explain it but they also might meme on you.

>>71833052
Welcome to the Club.

Once you set up your first Robinhood Account there is no going back. You've already taken your first steps.

>>71838082
>Seethe, the real livers worth watching are already back in business as normal
well you're not wrong

>>71838082
Are you sure about that?
I guess in a way, you're right.

>>71833052
THAT JUST MEANS THERE IS ONLY GROWTH FOREVER BRO. TO THE MOOOOOOOOOON

>doki shows up late to her own stream and pulls 16,400 CCV anyway
lol

This restriction happens on any stock with significant moves and it's not a choice made by people or a team or whatever it's just a market function of the TSE or whatever. Essentially, to shortsell or do options or whatever, anything other than buying or selling what you own, requires a second party to loan the stock to you, or agree to the options contract, or whatever trade you're doing. You can't physically sell something you don't have, so they loan it to you and get interest. When you sell it, you plan to buy it back at a lower price, then return it to the party you loaned it from. The one doing this loaning/contracts is usually some institution, almost always backed by other investors, ie, for this institution to avoid needing to hold a bunch of bunk stock, they just ask other investors if they want to loan the stock to them for a small interest, many stockholders who have over 5% and are seemingly just holding it? They're actually loaning it so others can shortsell or do options, or they're using it as asset collateral for traditional loans. They're not just sitting on it waiting to sell (though most contracts are quite agile and will allow you to sell portions in case of upward movement to payback, or readjust the allotted collateral, etc).
When this restriction comes up (there are like 5 different types of restrictions, maybe more), it's because there's physically not enough stock to loan out for shortselling, ie not enough holders are loaning their stock out. This is usually because shortbros all gang up on a stock that's crashing to make easy money, but it's like first come first serve, there's a limited amount in circulation. Of course you could also make a private contract with a large holder to have him specifically loan to you, without the TSE or whatever as the middleman, but these kinds of investors usually start talks in the millions (USD), so the average joe stock investor has no chance. Usually this restriction will lift within a few days as things balance out, maybe interest rates get adjusted to incentivize the holders to loan to TSE, or the shorters find another stock to gang up on or something.
Not like you shmucks will understand this post tho so I just wasted my time typing this....

>>71841122
*Sigh* The sisters have already abandoned the two. "Real Livers are back"

>>71839888
My understanding is that you can't short Anycolor anymore because the broker that handles the shorting ran out of shares to short with.

Can't say I'm shocked. They have a bloated roster. Ignoring the Selen situation, they kept hiring en tubers and only getting flops

>>71843030
b-b-but /biz/ told me that they can just magically create fake shares out of thin air.