/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>71746955
Okay what happen to nijisanji this time?

>>71746955
Billion dollar companies can fail, but there are a lot of options to keep them as an entity existing. Wework, that company that got a billion dollar evaluation for renting out working spaces because some Jew grifter CEO, Adam Neumann, managed to convince the richest person in Japan, Masayoshi Son, to invest in it and the company practically died after COVID. That company is still around, it just went through bankruptcy and kicked Adam out with a massively reduced profile. Anything short of fraud and serious financial misconduct will not make your company disappear.
But I do agree that the company has a higher chance of going through bankruptcy and seeing a massive exodus. The best scenario is the company getting Riku is out and replaced by someone who actually knows what they are doing in Anycolor before this all happens and are willing to grind out the business to clean house, reorganize with whoever remains and try to go toe to toe with Yagoo.

>>71746955
TL;DR, but honestly I will be ok for now with the EN merge.
The JP market will not change until thr eastern mentality changes, but if they want to come to the west, this shitshow is unforgivable.
We are at the point these people are sheltered from their own problems and used as ads in JP to fail admitting the entire brunch failed with 3 downward quarters in a row, a fourth to arrive.
At least this board will be free of all the psycho thinking we want their bitches and gigolo around.

I don't care what happens with JP, I just want EN in the ground, it's a shitstain on the industry and a clueless foreign invader in the western Vtuber market and is absolutely rotten to the core. They took a good thing and drove it into the ground and when they're not fucking up constantly they're in Japan partying and not streaming.

>>71746955
>then the community will be a lot more different than it currently is
which is a good thing,any sane person looking at niji "community" on twitter will say "burn the entire thing"

In all honesty, I hope NijiEN survives and continues as a big corpo branch. It’s not that I’m a NijiEN sympathizer but rather I believe that HololiveEN needs a big corpo rival like NijiEN. Without competition/rival you stop trying to improve and begin to coast and get lazy and degrade. Competitors push each other to be better. Without NijiEN, HoloEN will just become bloated and dull.

>>71746955
>Reddit spacing
Fuck off faggot.

Nobody cares about NijiJP, we just want NijiEN to get axed

NijiEN should be kept alive as a containment branch for the scum of vtubing and as a constant source of entertainment, but not the type that they are trying to to produce

>>71746955
I have only really expect NijiEN to be absorbed into the main company, and that will kill any expansion overseas for years, if not completely.

>>71748040
>It’s not that I’m a NijiEN sympathizer
stop the cap,cut the bullshit anon,holo can have rival that actually good instead of black company with toxic vtuber and community who bring nothing than actual shit that ruin the industry.
if you think ppl outside of japan give a shit about niji more than phase,vshojo and other EN corpo,you need to get out of your niji echo chamber. i'm not joking,niji literally become the laughing stock.

>>71746955
>Salome
>golden egg
more like scam bot
her debut number was fake as fuck

I don't know if anyone actually thinks the company is going to die (even if they have a relatively horrendous Q4, which they almost certainly will, they're still making decent profits, more than last year even if they didn't hit their dumbass targets).
It's still funny to dunk on their stock nosediving though.
And unrelated to their financial situation, the company clearly is a shithole in terms of how they treat talents vs basically any other vtuber company. So nobody is gonna be rooting for them to survive outside of a handful of mongs who make Nijisanji their identity.

>>71748040
NijiEN has not been a serious competitor in years. The last time they seriously put up a fight was with Lazulight and Obsydia and from the other thread's post at looking at new sub growth in >>71728415 and >>71728734, that lasted for about a year and a half from mid 2021 to the end of 2022.

>>71746955
Don't care I just want Riku to get his comeuppance and for the talents to not be a bunch of high school drop outs.

>>71748040
You niggers never said this when Niji JP had a monopoly on things. You're so transparent.

>>71748040
Holo EN DOES have rival agencies. Vshojo, Phase, Idol, and a bunch of others. Plus indies.
And then there's the fact that Holo EN doesn't do the "walled garden" thing (...any more) and will let their talents collab with almost any non-Holo vtuber they want on their Holo account, with the notable exception of Projekt Melody because she does "yoga" content, and some ex-Holos (and even that restriction does not apply to the talents' roommates)

If Niji EN goes away, the only appreciable change to Holo EN's market share will be the fact that they would no longer have publicly traded rivals. They'll still have rivals, just none on any stock markets.

>>71746955
>Salome
lmao,you are here on /vt/ and still clueless about salome,just in case you don't know salome "boom" happened exactly around niji "IPO" so yeah connect the dot dumbass

>>71747604
They didn't die when anon predicted.
>>71748165
Separating paragraphs isn't plebbit. It's elementary school. Try attending.

>>71748785
Take your meds, schizo

>>71748785
tl:dr?

>new golden eggs like Salome
Didn't she lose 90% of her viewers in a year?

>>71748648
>Niji JP had a monopoly on things
Was never the case. Hololive pretty much copied every new idea they had within a few months.

>>71748785
To be fair, she was very entertaining, and debuting her as one woman wave was justified. Probably not on the level of 100k ccv every stream though, that shit looked fake.

>>71748040
Given that some members of NijiEN are already considering living in Japan for a year, it might be possible that they are already getting ready for the merge.
From the Nijisanji EN General: >>71743188

>>71748785
>stream only 1 hour per day
100k bots is expensive, please understand

NijiEN are almost all talentless nepotistic shitstains with horrible personalities and attitudes, The ones that aren't are either bland or being held back by the company politics, Idc about JP, Never have, Never will, They can keep trudging along, Honestly more than the actual vtubers, I hate their fans, I only want T-N-D Because of the fucking retarded mongoloid fans that troll and harass and jeer and dox and stink up the entire community with their filthy brown hands, I'm sick of them, If Nijifans suddenly shut up and just positively supported their oshis i wouldn't give NEARLY as much of a shit as i do now, I legitimately wish enna elira and millie harm just so the NDF Fags here can cry and seethe

>>71749301
KEK, will NijiEN even last this year?

>>71746955
>Nijisanji won't leave the Vtuber industry anytime soon
yeah, the JP side, that is. Nijisanji EN is absolutely, 100% screwed now. It would be a big miracle if NijiEN actually remains intact for another 2 or 3 years, because literally everyone doubts it will last for just 1 more year. They cannot expand any further in the EN sphere anymore, so where will NijiEN gonna go further? Asia? China? e-eu-Europe?! LMAO.

>>71749102
And now Niji are the ones copying Hololive. Or trying to at least. Things have come full circle.

>>71748040
This plus I’d rather NijiEN still be around so it can be the containment zone for anti-idol vtubing fans

>>71746955
A lot of JP companies see their domestic market as oversaturated and are focusing on overseas grow, niji included. If they fold the EN branch it will put anycolor position in dire straights and stagnate it, even if it won't "kill" the company.

>>71746955
NijiEN failure is the primary thing we've been watching out for
All these other failures (market breaker friday, etc) are just nice side dishes on the way there

>>71748785
Even if you want to believe Salome was botted to some extent, it's pretty undeniable that at the time of her debut, everyone was talking about her so the vast majority of her viewers were probably real people.
You even had holo girls (including Pekora) talking about her (at the very least, they watched her clips, if not her streams). That's not exactly a common occurrence for non-holo debuts, so I mean...clearly she had some degree of actual fame.

>>71749417
Its future has a high chance of being decided by the reception to the Q4 earnings report that is supposed to come out in June.

>>71748904
use your brain retard,gura killer my ass,the botting gone after that IPO period KEK

>>71749417
See you on New Year's for the next BTFO thread

>>71749171
>she was very entertaining
shes basically standard ojou sama kayfabe,but everything about her boom was fake and its exactly around niji going public,these retard bitching about "gura killer" just like luxiem back then until the truth show itself

>>71749681
If they truly cared about expansion Nijisanji should've actually put effort into their staff and management instead of whatever bullshit they did.

I don't think they'll fall but I think Riku's gonna dip and the new owners are going to aggressively do even more rent-seeking shit to squeeze a profit out of the IP leading to more and more decline in the quality of the product

>>71746955
Almost everything you posted is wrong.

>Kicking Tazumi out won't make them fall. Investors will vote new CEO anyway
Tazumi still controls the company. He cannot be kicked out, the other shareholders have little to no chance of removing him. Should he leave and decide to sell, then yes, it is possible there could be a turnaround in Nijisanji at that point. But any sale of the company will almost certainly be accompanied by a tsunami of talents flooding for the exits, no longer trapped by their contracts or by the legal threats from the company, which will result in its hollowing out.

>EN disband will be negligible for them because they still have JP and CN
EN is, or was, their only growth market. They are slowly losing out to the competition in Japan. Prior to the Q3 crash, EN was about 20% of their revenues. That will go to zero. That's not "irrelevant."

>Kuzuha or Mito leaving may hurt JP a bit, but they will eventually come back with new golden eggs like Salome
They've shown no ability to nuture newer talents. They basically got lucky because they were there first. Due to the damage to their reputation, the only people signing up are desperate two views now, and the vTuber market in JP is saturated. It is extremely unlikely they will be able to produce another Mito or even a Salome under these conditions.

>Stocks going down ? Just pump it. They already did today and they will continue doing it as long as Anycolor can survive
They don't have unlimited ability to smooth-talk investors and blowtorch money to keep the company alive. If they keep having really catastrophic results, the stock will crash again and harder.

>The only way to truly kill Niji is either Anycolor announces bankruptcy and disbands everyone forcefully like Prism, or identity change, meaning they are no longer Nijisanji and will be rebranded into some new name with new goals and new unknown future
This is the only thing you posted that is sort of correct. But only sort of.

>>71749787
its not as simple as "ah another botted niji" no,but it is not as "lightning in the bottle" like nijifag think it is,she is going for a rar kayfabe,solo by herself but the most IMPORTANT part is she is the spotlight during niji going public,if you think niji wont throw everything forf that moment,you are naive and dumb like some retard here

>>71746955
Ok, that is fair, but that doesn't mean they should have hobbled their growth with massive bad press for no reason. Now they look like shit last resort option to any prospective candidate who wants to become a vtuber.

>>71746955
Anyone with half a brain and is not too emotionally invested know this, they took some sizable damage but were never gonna fold, at worst they axe the EN branch.

>Niji wont fail
>Currently the bones in the closet silled out
>20% of stock fall (and gaining momentum)
If that is not falling, then I don't know what it is. But lets be honest overyonder. Anycolor carved their own demise with Riku at the front and having an army of midwits doing administrative and staff positions. For them, to actually recover is needed a whole overhaul to their organization and rebuilding the reputation and goodwill Riku yeeted out the house. Untill then, grab some popcorn and enjoy the dumpster burner.

No modern big company falls. They just diminish in size until they get bought out by another big company who will stripmine them down to an IP holder if they fail to deliver a return.

>>71748833
Maybe you can teach OP about punctuation and sentence structure, anon.

>>71746955
at first, slowly, and then all at once.

>>71750564
>it is not as "lightning in the bottle" like nijifag think it is
It kind of was, though. She blew up a lot outside of Niji - that is undeniable. Her clips were getting hundreds of thousands of views at the time, people were making videos about her, people were talking about her unique kayfabe in all spheres.
I'm not going to pretend it's impossible there was botting going on, but you've gotta be trying really hard to hate on Niji if you're suggesting that she didn't have huge organic growth as well.
It'd be like suggesting that Doki's views and subs were all bots because she isn't as popular a month later.

>>71751542
>Her clips were getting hundreds of thousands of views at the time, people were making videos about her, people were talking about her unique kayfabe in all spheres.
NTA but Salome was indeed a breathe of fresh air from the cookie cutter kayfabes in NijiJP. Yet as well in JP they suffer the same of EN: Favoritism and HS clique culture. She was (and think still is) suppresed by her own management to push other livers.

>>71748474
I think it's possible. If they delist then decent profits wouldn't be enough to save them, and we've seen evidence that one panic sell can bring them to their knees. That's what happens when you play the stock game instead of building a business: You're always at risk of collapse. Doesn't mean it's going to happen or even likely to happen. I can dream though.

>>71751824
Imagine getting Salome just to sideline her because they didn't know how to handle someone this big.

Does Riku has the mods in their pockets? There were blatant finance threads allowed here when Niji stocks were rising and any other news like anycolor stocks not allowed to sell is being deleted.

I initially thought that it was to keep discussion to just chuubas and GURRAT was too fucking wild but this is getting way too blatant

>>71750564
You can't even type right, stop having opinions.

>>71752134
Fear of success methinks. But yeah. After the ripple effect that Selen made I might think Niji will double down in the crab bucket ideology

>>71750857
>20% of stock fall (and gaining momentum)
It actually bounced up 5.83% yesterday surprisingly.

>>71752974
>Slight pump by bond buying (depreciates the real value of the share)
>The gained sumfin
Naïvety killed /biz/

>>71748694
Remove vshojo. They’re on twitch. They only compete with mythic

>>71753075
NTA, I thought bonds were those things you bought from Banks and gain value over time?

I don't want Niji to fall. I don't want NijiEN to be closed. I don't anyone to graduate. I wish everyone stays in NijiEN forever.

Yes, people see line goes down and they think the a profitable company will somehow die, that said the damage is done, at the very least it will probably be harder to get good sponsorships for them and most hate is focused on nijien anyways and it dying is a win for most, nijijp are at least not cartoon villains even though their contracts are still shit most likely

>>71750857
Apparently sales are blocked on an institutional level, its just not talked about because mods have been nuking threads ASAP whenever there is a thread about it.

>>71742050

>>71748040
>I believe that HololiveEN needs a big corpo rival like NijiEN.
nijiEN literally never was a real holoEN rival
just like their main branch they became irrelevant rather fast

>>71749301
>Moving to the place where some of their contract BS is even remotely enforceable
Are they stupid?

>>71749417
its fine. I don't think you realize just how much money they make with almost no investment. Why would they ever axe it? Even 500ccv is huge in the grand scheme of things, and plenty of them do better than that. They make money, there's no reason to ever stop. Hell it doesn't even have to be publicly traded if they get tired of getting PR black eyes from the stock, a private company milking easy vtuber bucks, beholden to no one, works just as good if not better.

>>71753961
I wish for grifterbird to have a meltdown and attempt #3, but we dont always get what we want now do we?

>>71754506

They won't absorb EN. EN will be business like usual.. give them a few weeks, they will start debuting new talents soon. Absorbing EN into JP would be like saying to investors that expansion globally failed and growth stopped.
Riku will do things like until now, and will just focus on stabilizing and normalizing everything in the company, in the preparation of a sell out of the company to Sony or whoever is interested.

>>71754615
>Silver bullets kill werewolves
>Silver play buttons kill sisters

>>71752974
There's an explanation for that.

>>71755913
Wait, what does this mean? They added more shares and blocked the sales?

>>71746955
i really want nijiEN to continue existing, i mean the only other place for sisters to go are Homostars...
i want nijiniggers stay in its containment zone instead poisoning Hololive

>>71756043
No, it's just the same anon spreading made up horseshit based on something they found on a thread full of Japanese shit posters. They'll argue that Nijisanji decided to block people from selling instead of the reality that loaning stocks was limited due to high amount of people buying a high value stock when it was low.

>>71756043
When you short a share, you're getting a stock loaned to you from someone else. So according to this the stock is getting shorted to hell and back. I've never heard of a stock getting overshorted causing a circuit break though.

>>71756265
>>71756442
I think I understand. Nijisanji is indestructible.

>>71756265
I mean we're all trying to figure out why anyone would buy enough stocks in a company that JUST maxed out the amount stocks can drop would suddenly get enough buys to get the green. Even for shorts that seems baffling.

>>71756442
That's because the stock isn't getting over shorted and loaning is limited because of how many people decided to try buying a high value stock for cheap

Spain used to own half the western hemisphere, and nearly a quarter of the world. Now they own Ceuta, Melilla, and Las Canarias.
Nijisanji will suffer a similar fate. They'll still exist, but only in a rump state.

...actually worse than that, since Spain is not a pariah nation.

>>71756043
member gamestop? The same is happening

>>71757339
comparing Nijisanji to Spain is offensive to Nijisanji

>>71757339
>Spain used to own half the western hemisphere, and nearly a quarter of the world
Weird way to say Englans

>>71757523
You assume people /here/ know what happened to GS past a surface level.

>>71746955
fool that you are

Can anyone explain what is this about?

>>71746955
>Nijis think the ride is over.
Why would you want the fun to end this soon?

>>71746955
Do /vt/ niggers unironically belive they will go out of business?lol EN could shrink or be restructured but It's 0% that jp will die. It's absolutely different from Niji en. Niji jp is much more like Holo jp than Niji en. The popularity of jp is also by far more huge than en.

>>71764134
Stonks can make riku step down or outright bail. This will call for internal restructuring, and the rest depends on how bad is the management on the jp side, and how many skeletons are burried there. Cascading graduations of top names are improbable, but in light of recent yabs no longer impossible.

>>71762972
I wish i read moon runes, i heard some anon talking about "white papers" yesterday regarding niji stock, i assume that's what this is?, making sure they didnt do any weird fucky things with the stock or something

>>71764907
>white papers
uki, no!

>>71764134
A lot of the investors were betting on EN as the primary source of growth while their funding went towards both branches. If EN doesn't pay out then the investors leave, taking a large amount of JP investment with them. It won't collapse the company but it will make it a hell of a lot harder for them to fund new projects.

>>71764741
Have you ever even watched Niji jp livers? Nobody in the jp fanbase talks like you. You just sound like some mysterious mantra. It's like saying Holo jp is failing now. The only possible big failure they've had is VTA shit and you don't even know anything about it.

>>71765366
The business scale and the popularity of Niji jp isn't so different from of Holo jp. Investors won't leave so easily just because EN is in trouble. You are jumping into a conclusion too much.

>>71754506

>>71757874
>You assume people /here/ know what happened to GS past a surface level.
Fucking with the hedge funds trying to short sell again would be the cherry on top, please make it happen.

>>71757236
>high value stock for cheap
That's a nice high value stock you have there kurocolor, it would be a shame if something happened in june...

>>71746955
Anon this whole thing is based on the idea that people will love some anime cam whore forever and will give them everything they have forever. You know how volatile that is from the get go?

>>71750011
A report which will include such fun bits as "Selen's termination resulted in a mass exodus of fans, a nosedive in supachatto revenue, all of the EN livers missing Valentines, and merch sales dropping" and also "the stock tanked so hard that regulatory protections stopped it from tanking further"

....oh and there's still 6 weeks left in the fiscal quarter. I can't help but wonder how many yabs will happen in that time frame, and whether or not False's time bomb is one of them.

>>71765479
Not sure why you need to tegognize me in some mysterious "jp fanbase". And I didn't mention livers success as the point of failure, only the stonks, riku and the cult-like management structure. And said it was improbable after all. Take the chill pill maybe.

>>71746955
My brother in christ they're Sora left to go indie and took two talents with her. They lost MYSTA EN Male #2 to Vshojo along with Nina who had a career renaissance now and lost Pomu and Selen, Kyo is a minor thing that happened in comparison.
Now with the dip you need to consider. The Selen situation was NOT IN THIS QUARTER REPORT. THE WORST IS YET TO COME.

>>71757236
Oof we're playing Baggie Bingo now.

>>71766408
>The Selen situation was NOT IN THIS QUARTER REPORT. THE WORST IS YET TO COME.
You see it's funny because this means that Niji was technically telling the truth when they said that the impact of firing Selen on their Q3 financials would be negligible.

>>71764134
Brainlets can't tell apart shitpost anyways, Kurocolor didn't blow up because the fucking circuit breaker protected them from burned to ashes without that the drop would've even lower, 1800 going for predictions.
So "haha take that you antis" is fucking retarded and I laugh at the stupidity of the sister for even considering using it as a defense.
So yeah the corpo won't be deleted in one friday because the law have inbuilt protection but now have:
-a stock that failed the buyback
-the margin trade didn't do shit
-stock that dropped below the entry value
-circuit break to prevent it going down further
-short selling monday
-Q3 showing they have vague wording and no real plans at all
-stock is volatile as hell
-and to end things the haymaker that is Q4 is yet to come
I don't get the "corpo isn't going anywhere", they will try to keep alive as long the cost is NEGLIGIBLE because they don't fucking invest for shit, they can keep bs investor, barely spending any money (the new equipment and the studio "expansion" was lol, lmao even) coasting for a few years, but once it becomes a burden they will bail.
In short they'll stop growing and bleed out to death until they bail and go funding another new corpo, hell I wouldn't be surprise if Riku is pumping and dumping in preparation to bail early.

>>71764907
>>71762972
Chatgpt:
This is a notice regarding trading regulations for a specific stock, ANYCOLOR (5032), in the stock credit market. It mentions regulations imposed by the exchange and securities finance companies, including restrictions on new sales and cash withdrawals starting from March 19th. It also discusses certain stocks designated for short selling in the margin trading system, known as "HYPER short selling," which may have different costs compared to regular short selling. The notice advises investors to refer to the details of the credit trading service for more information. Additionally, it mentions updates to the regulations on trading practices, including limitations on certain transactions involving margin trading and borrowing of stocks, starting from September 1st, 2023. However, it's important to note that while efforts are made to ensure the accuracy of the information provided, there are no guarantees, and updates to the information may take some time to reflect based on the timing and content of announcements.

>>71766162
>content is mostly "lets play this", song cover and maybe dancing
You can't even mention that this bussiness can implode in a few years when all the content is consumed and there is no more new things to cover.
Hell how many chuubas cover the same game over and over.

>>71766553
/biz/ vs WSB when?

42 minutes to Stonks O'clock

>>71746955
I don't care about Nijisanji or Anycolor as a whole, I just want to see the EN branch burn.

>>71766656
except for the part where firing her wiped out their entire stock buyback.. and then the Q3 dropped them again to mid 2000s, if they didnt fuck it up, they could have been over 4k BEFORE the crash, and riku and gang woulda cashed out, now they are all bagholders

>>71766727
I am retarded but this
> It mentions regulations imposed by the exchange and securities finance companies, including restrictions on new sales and cash withdrawals starting from March 19th
Does that mean that they were LIMITING who could sell yesterday?, which would explain why the stock didnt crash as expected, they literally stuck their thumb on it to prevent it from crashing.. atleast that's what i'm getting out of this.. MAN nijisisters were gloating so hard when the game was rigged huh..

>>71766656
>Selen on their Q3 financials would be negligible.
But Q4.

>>71747604
Claude arrogantly stated
>if they want their play button they should fucking ask for it
Because he asked and got one recently apparently. As if things happening today reflects what totally could have happened a year ago

>>71767154
We need the stockbros to explain.

>>71766814
Never. /smg/ - Stock Miko General; is the PC Gaming Master Race of online investing.

>>71767241
Actually he DIDN'T get one, He said he COULD have but chose not to because he said "i would be nothing without nijisanji, they are the reason i am at 100k subs, its an honor to have my button on display next to all my senpais, i don't deserve having it myself" Legit that is what he said

>>71767259
But more importantly, what's the quality of the memes there?

>>71767359

>>71746955
Flat out, I don't care if Niji fails or not. I just want them and their fanbase to stop attacking doki and sayu. EN failing is good enough to do that, at least.

>>71762972
First of all you're gunna need to link where you found this

I don't see how it gets more grim than this

>>71767241
Yeah, he's literally drinking the kool-aid. He could have one for himself and one at the studio, but he is still defending the company.
EN was a mistake, anyone who is good will better leave. At least once they are gone the west can heal.

>>71746955
I don't think anyone here truly thinks Nijisanji is going to "fall" per se, I just think their brand will keep losing power and influence due to their continued incompetence throughout the years as they've failed to adapt to the ever-changing medium that is VTubers. They're stuck in their heyday of 2018-2019 and haven't really evolved. Sure they've added a few successful livers here and there, but as valuable as they are, you're not seeing them everywhere you look anymore.

truth is they will sell nijisanji to some tencent subsidiary

It’s funny watching the NDF jump mid-thread(s) from
>THE STOCKS DON’T MATTER
to
>SEE? NOOMBER BIGGER. /vt/ BTFO
all while ignoring anything detracting from their delusion. NijiEN cannot improve, nor will it likely ever.

>>71768200
Problem is that JP is gaslighted from the idol industry into being super-parasocial and the "cough" made it worse. So yes, JP will always survive. The EN merge is all we hope for to stop having them create more toxic cliques.

>>71767359
Claude Clawmark? More like Cock Cuckmark

>>71768307
It's literally 20 of them. All posts from the doxxsite don't get more than 20-30 likes, which tells you all you need to know.
They are so delusional that are still bothering Doki who has not attacked the livers, instead of Quinn who goes talk with Mysta for 6 hours and shits all over the company by calling it a nightmare and shooting all over his ex-friends.

They don't even know where to aim anymore so the actual griefters get away with it.

>>71768126
>Imagine being in a billionare company that according to it's stan is better than holo, and not even doing 10 finana for your birthday.
Riku could literally close them and then send the homos back only for the nijisis and get a free W. The industry needs healing.

>>71768310
That's not why though. Nijisanji's business model hasn't evolved in 5 years. The medium has changed substantially since. As a result, those who stagnate will suffer. You're talking to someone who's membered to 4 Nijis atm btw

>>71768464
They hate doki because firing her is what drove nijisanji into mainstream infamy.. not realizing it was nijisanji's own god damn fault (or rather not caring due to their delusions)
They don't give a fuck about kyo because he is "harmless" at worst and an agent of chaos at best designed to "get back" at doki and sayu by fucking them over and cutting them out of vshojo collabs in future (according to some rrats anyway)

>>71768234
China requires yourself to be doxxed just to stream, plus other retarded regulations. Vtubing has literally zero future under them.
Having said that, if Tencent makes an huge offer, he would sell. He would not care everyone else gets screwed.

>>71768589
>billionare company
In stonks, which they sold on the promise of foreign expansion.

>>71768464
>They don't even know where to aim anymore so the actual griefters get away with it.
Or some of those sisters are Anycolor employees whose job it is to harass already-fired talents. That's probably why they're going after Sayu and Doki and their friends, but not Naomi (Pomu) and her friends.

>>71768632
We had the Covid in those 5 years. The model didn't need to update because it got bubbled in the perfect storm. Japan creaks but doesn't crumble one bit for now.
Riku will not change the model for EN, all he's pulling now is an act to keep the morale up and try to do beeg events to bring in numbers.
That is definitely not working in EN, but he doesn't care if he can fake it till something works or things go so bad he will be forced to take action.

>>71768838
Nah, they are permanently /here/. Exiled from twitter and from reddit. No company would hire someone just to fuck on an anon board.

I want Salome and Pon-chan to stay. I want EN to disappear.

>>71766770
You could argue it's even worse than that because it also depends on their personality. You could waste thousands on art/models etc for a vtuber but if the main audience don't like them then it's over from the day they introduce themselves. Sometimes giving them big tits is not enough

>>71768838
I can believe that one reddit-spacing anon that always turns up yapping bout how Selen wronged Anycolor unprompted could very well be in Harry's pocket, if not on his dick. Now that I think about it, the language they use reads similar to that one sister who turns up to defend Luca without fail (theorized to be Luca himself).

>>71769014
>No company would hire someone just to fuck on an anon board.
You really think Niji would not be that petty? The same Niji that used a whole-ass A4 paper to write two sentences telling the investors just how little Selen mattered to them?

Seriously, the letterhead was more verbose than the actual message to investors. And one of the two sentences was just to announce the fact that they had fired her, that's how worthless they felt she was.

>>71767154
seems that way to me
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>>71746955
For Niji itself to fall JP Nijisisters will have to become disillusioned with the company, and as of now that doesn’t seem to be happening in any large quantity. Even if investors pull out theres still a market so as long as fans are still willing to support Niji.

>>71762972
where is this from?

nijisanji en will never die, retired and fired members will be replaced with new hires. nijisanji jp is doing ok, chihiro graduated early this year and that was a big blow to lose one of the originals niji liver and mito is semi retired now, only appearing to sell merch and on sponsors stream. but salome, kuzuha and sara are still growing and has no intention of stopping anytime soon. the moneymakers are still pulling the numbers, riku's masterplan to pump the stocks during holofes seems to have paid off. doki and sayu fans were happily celebrating their hollow victory while riku laughs as his company rises and stay thriving amidst the drama. i love my nijisanji family.

>>71769578
https://search.sbisec.co.jp/v2/popwin/attention/stock/sa_5032.html

>>71769617
wait so let me get this straight
they were getting their sales limited yesterday? which is why it didnt fall
wtf, why

>>71769470
>>71769617
Wow so the stocks really are rigged and pointless and don't matter, INB4
>Always have been
But seriously Anycolor stocks are LITERALLY being held up by the stockbrokers so they don't completely collapse, I wonder how long it will be propped up like that before it's allowed to fall naturally again.. by that time it's probably gonna "stabilize" until the Q4 report or some graduation/termination yab, Atleast we have something to point at the sisters when they go MUH AC HIGHER THAN COVER THO!! NICE REBOUND M8!!, REBOUND M8!!, like the yapping hyenas they are

>>71767359
That's so much worse then
What a fucking faggot

>>71768126
Considering her usual audience is ~1.1k-1.2k. I assume the best way to interpret this is that her audience is insular from Nijisanji and people who watch other Nijis mostly don't know it's her b-day.

>>71748040
>nijiEN rivals for holoEN

BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Sister, you're below vshojo and phase now.

>>71769862
What's the real value of the company though? it's not like they're worse than Cover.

>>71746955
Why the fuck would I care if they are still in the market if they disband their EN branch?
I'm not a japcuck. If they can't wrangle their corpos it's their own problem.
I just don't want these fuckers on the Western market.

>>71750011
Which is, obviously, going to be an absolute bloodbath. It would take a miracle for EN's earnings to get back on track before the end of the quarter.

>>71770218
A miracle? It is literally impossible. Even if they debuted 3D's for Luxiem too they only have just under 2 weeks to do it.

>>71770132
They absolutely ARE worse than cover.. substantially worse.. atleast from a content perspective regarding their EN branches, and a moral/ethical perspective retarding how they treat their talents and the compensation/management they provide, From a business perspective all their black company cost cutting probably puts them even or slightly ahead of cover, and in the financial world of short term gains that is all that matters...except for their EN branch withering and dying.. and with it any hope of the global expansion the investors were promised and desperately crave

>>71746955
>>71746955
>So yeah, in the end, all of those doomposting about Niji are ultimately just shitposts for funsies.
You are on 4chan. What the fuck did you expect?
I don't want niji to fall so that the cancer of their fanbase won't spread to others. Other fanbases are already cancerous, adding niji cancer to the mix is just too much already.

>>71770325
Q4 started feb 1st, it ends april 30th, they have all of april and the last half of march to get back on track, but it is still a fool's errand

>>71770496
I thought Q4 was the one that started in January but ended in March.

>>71767470
Depends on the day. If there is a real shitstock being skilled there like AquaBounty, Bay Horse or SOXLthe semester can be really high.

>>71770492

>>71769470
>>71769617
The ONLY reason it survived and continues to survive is cause the stock market is actively preventing it from freefalling due to securities, It is "standard" among all stocks that freefall, But still, Anycolor is a dead company walking

>>71769340
>Sometimes giving them big tits is not enough
When big fat tits fails then the answer is obvious

>>71770132
Both Cover and Anycolor are valued far above what their current profits would warrant, because they are "growth stocks", with the expectation of significant future growth priced in.
This is why Anycolor fell so hard after their earnings report - they'd said their main driver for growth would be overseas, and their overseas revenue shrank 40%.
They're still a profitable business and they're not going to go anywhere, but the stock price specifically was based largely on expectations that they failed to meet in very dramatic fashion.

>>71770613
JP companies offset it for some reason, so Q3 was November December January, Q4 would be Feb March April, and Q1 starts in may cause of something about spring renewal cultural relevance bullshit etc etc

>>71746955
>EN disband will be negligible for them because they still have JP and CN
Right now this is all I want. Not that I hate all the Niji livers but they business practice should not exist outside those sphere.

>>71769470
Lmao you can't make this shit up.

>>71770132
>it's not like they're worse than Cover.
Anon... they have literally nothing over Cover except having more talents that produces less content ironically.

>>71770496
But they got big sponsorships in March like code gea -ACK

>>71770809
>CN
There is no way to make CN happen, the laws and the CCP won't let them do shit.

>>71770904
How is Code Gayass still alive these days?

>>71770904
Getting dangerously close to a certain ex-GFE chuuba...

>>71747604
Nothing really. Nothing about the situation that lead to Friday’s events has changed, it’s just that the initial panic is over, so they get a 3 month reprieve.

>>71771109

>>71770132
Well we do know Cover has one of the largest maybe largest mocap facility in Japan so that's a minimum 20mil. 200+ VK26 cameras
Anycolor has is making a big deal about a Ku100 that's about $10k (new - my rrat is Fauna sold her KU100 because she doesn't do asmr anymore and Anycolor bought it second hand). So from a physical asset standpoint - In the last 12-24months. Cover is at least $19,990,000 more valuable. The reality is this, Cover's value is tied to physical assets and IP. Anycolor's value is tied to it's share price.

uhhuh

>>71746955
Let's be real, nijifags are seething at hololive's success.

>>71746955
>nijikeks want the all out war to continue

>>71768464
What did he say?

>>71746955
Remember when IBM was the king? They are not able to adjust to the new market. Expansion is futile.

>>71748954
Niji botted thr fuck out of Salome to make her appear as the Gura killer. Salome is great and didn't need the boost, buy she doesn't stream equivalent views like Gura.

>>71754506
I'll get my destruction of Nijisanji. I've been putting the work in since Pomu's announcement of graduation.

>>71775756
Anon, you can literally look at her superchats right now and see she wasn't botted. She makes more money than Kanae.

>>71776063
They're obviously referring to the debut period, where she had more viewers than every other vtuber combined. It didn't really make any sense, since those viewers just evaporated after a few weeks without ever checking out anyone else.

>>71772628
always

>>71769470
So they really did manipulate the price to keep it afloat, and now the exchange has to ''re-do the law'' to save face? The rich really are parasites on the system.

stock is volatile af today

>>71768641
>hey don't give a fuck about kyo because he is "harmless" at worst and an agent of chaos at best designed to "get back" at doki and sayu by fucking them over and cutting them out of vshojo collabs in future (according to some rrats anyway)
Drop me that rrat, I have a need that must be sated

>>71784393
allegedly, an anon said they have a LIG friend who was talking with him and he threw a fit at the idea of being part of a large collab involving Sayu.

>>71746955
yes big corp like .LIVE and 774 still exists
but look at where they're at now......

>>71784529
>Sperged a collab that could boost the nambahs
>Sperger is a Niji
Predictable, yet disappointing

>>71784641
Realistically though, the problem is that he has friends in high places and is already making waves with the bigger liggers like bao, matara, kuro, and even normie shit like asmongold. If the choice comes down to it, they'll likely pick him and boot Sayu, which is why sayu fans are kinda wary and annoyed at him.

>>71769470
Does this mean this will "suspension" will stop working on the 20th?

>>71746955
Niji won't fall because they can't possibly get any lower than the Earth's core.

>>71784529
he's probably afraid of getting BTFO again, wigga got PTSD from the golf collab

>>71784040
The price spiked in the first few minutes of trading, and went up to 2754 at around 9.50 JST.
It's been steadily declining since then, now back down to 2619 at 1.06pm. Whoever or whatever was raising the stock price yesterday and most of the first hour today, seems to have stopped raising the stock price.

>>71784529

>>71746955
Keep telling yourself that, I'm sure your wish may come true one day

>>71784393
>>71559335

>>71747785
This.
>>71769537
And this. Still, having to retreat to Japan all the way, and thus leaving Phase and Vshoujo to duke it out for the power vaccum, is still a huge defeat.

>>71746955
So true OP, I keep buying more Nijisanji stock and it will make me super rich.
You should do it too !

>>71754353
>are they stupid?
they joined NijiEN. What do you think lol

>>71785628
Trading has ended for today, and the close for Niji was at 2630. Tomorrow's floor is 2130.
If your guess is correct, and the suspension on the fire sale is lifted, there may be another first hour nosedive, this time "only" 500 JPY / 19.011%

>>71754147
post that on /biz/

>>71746955
They wasting their golden
Should pushing salami or ngo aka Spain village more, or even toya and
Rather than a shitty tournament over and over
About their EN? It's finished
Bad reputation

>>71746955

>>71754147
yakuza pulling strings because their money laundering is in danger; its not getting censored because it hurts niji, but because it hurts the maffia

>>71786228
That missing the second "r" in rrat.

>>71746955
Shut the fuck up dramachuba. Go farm to twittertards

>>71749301
...i hope they all fail

>>71749044

>>71754353
shhhh let them do it and find out the hard way

>>71746955

OP is a faggot

>>71746955
yeah they wont be leaving the vtuber market but that doesnt mean it would erase their bad rep
maybe in the future but the question is how far in the future? by that time do they still have the same capabilities they have now? does their previous canceled sponsors/partnerships came back? and lastly how many OG(probably 3-5 years old signed livers) members they still have

>>71746955
OP is a Mega-Faggot

>>71746955
I mean Wactor still exists, so.

>>71789675
I'm glad that rrat is getting traction for 2 reasons.
>1 it just makes a depressing amount of sense.
>2 even if it turns out to be wrong, both Quinn and Matara have been massive bullies in the past and cuddled to the clique. So even if it turned out they're not moles, they're still an enormous liability that needs to be accounted for.
VSHOJO BEWARE.

>>71802102