/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>71726822
Sora=frieren
Mito=haruhi

>>71726822
Huh? Mito is more popular.

>>71726822
Mito came shortly after the OGs of vtuber were established so she is not as influential as them.

Because she acts like a whore. If she displays herself to have less value, then why is it a surprise that the woman with more value is valued more?

>>71726822
Sora isn't a liver.

>>71726822
She's actually more popular, but she's also semi-retired

>>71726822
reminder that rushia shat on her and brought up her doxx yab scandal when they first met

>>71726822
Sora, Siro, Aoi, Baacharu > 1st gen
Mito, Fubuki, Aqua, Pekora > 2nd gen
Mito will remain to be Sora's kouhai.

>>71727212
https://youtu.be/hN1NfE-flug?si=z_dcFeb53B0ojTOc

>>71727212
>shat on her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzpwMiXUfqk

>>71726822
Bait or newfag?

>>71726822
mito has a god tier voice btw

>>71727263
Buy an ad.

>>71727212
>>71727241
I always wondered why they never bothered charging the stalker despite charging everyone else who did the same thing to other livers
She even had to move again in 2022 because he doxxed her again
Im starting to believe that rrat about him being blood related to someone in upper management being true

>>71727235
is mito patterned after kizuna ai or sora? she is the only idol in niji I think

>>71727109
Sora is not an OG.

>>71726822
Because Mito lost all trust and respect when she opened up her memberships despite shitting on the memberships thing in the past saying that she will never get one because its favoritism

>>71727235
I thought Mito came first before Hololive?

>>71727326
Yes, she is. OG vtubers are quite distinct cause they were 3Ds unlike the cheap 2Ds that came after them.

>>71726822
>liver

>>71726822
>Sora
>influential.
She was a literally who. And still literally who even now.

>>71727332
isn't mito semi retired now?

>>71727368
Both Roboco and Miko have said that they were given the option of 2D models but turned it down, because perma-3D is more unique. Sora probably feels the same way.

>>71727368
You're right, I got confused

>>71727074
She was in Virtual-san wa Miteiru... and what did she do after this?

>>71727424
At that time, 3D model is a stamp of quality. Only big corpos can afford them. Niji popularized 2D cause not only were they cheap, they also want to flood the market with their own vtubers.

>>71727416
>isn't mito semi retired now?
I dont believe the semi-retired bit since the last time she was this inactive was when she was changing addresses back in 2022
She probably got doxxed and started market hunting for houses again

>>71726822
Sora is an idol
Mito is a filthy whore

>>71727297
According to the leaked contract, niji livers must sort all that shit on their own.

>>71727499
mito literally a sora clone
sora is ai clone

>>71727541
and you are a monke clone

>>71727595
Well you're a stupid dumb face!

>>71727499
Sora is literal who
Your mom is a whore

>>71727530
>According to the leaked contract, niji livers must sort all that shit on their own.
Nah if you read it again that shit only applies to people that harass and doxx them online and not irl
the company itself has actually gone and sued a good number of stalkers like with ars, hoshikawa, lulu or with roa and were more succesful with them than their track record of suing antis/slander

>>71727530
So that joint partnership with Cover about combating harassment and slander of talents was just a bluff then huh?

>>71727660
Considering what happened to Scarle, wasn't it obvious?

>>71727660
Considering one of their livers tried to slander pekora a few days after it was announced yeah that was just a bluff by niji

>>71726822
I hate Nijisanji with a passion, but Mito will always be good in my book. One of the greats from their roster.

>>71727656
Your dad is nigger

>>71727679
>slander pekora
That song was about making fun of Pekora's fan and not Pekora herself. But he still a retard.

>>71727432
She has participated in several industry wide events and co-hosted a few of them.
Her personal content is also more popular than Sora's.

>>71727935
He was trying to stir shit to cause trouble to pekora anon because that is his content
Shit he even did it again when he tried to insert himself into some jap drama with tokai on air
He also did it during that show with Aiba where he tried to bait her by bringing up the favoritism allegations

posting in the most retarded thread on the board

>liver
This is one of the most disrespectful thing to say to Sora, she is a talent with real actual talent

>>71727326
>Kizuna Ai and Siro are the only vtubers that debuted before her
>she isn't an OG
Then the rest of 4 kings aren't OGs too.

>>71727595
Kek

>>71729846
I disagree with the mong who said she isn't an OG but she was far from being the third vtuber to debut... Before she was around, vt threads in /jp/ were talking about Baacharu, Barara&Karen, Noracat, and whether or not Moemi/Eileen counted as a vtuber. Sora was like wave 1.5 but I'd still count anyone who came pre-Luna as "OG" since those were like single- pr double-digit sub growth days before the Luna boom.

>>71727124
>Because she acts like a whore.
She really doesn't though. Hell she's incredibly aware of how badly her fans would kill for some ASMR with that absolute sex voice and so she shit post read a chapter of fucking Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo with an ASMR mic. Also she ever gives is a little taste of SEX.

>>71726822
>literally 10 times less views
oh no no no, soratomos...

>>71733165
Just wanted to add to your post, so newfags reading the thread don't get confused, that you're talking about Luna as in Kaguya Luna and not Himemori Luna from Hololive.

She doesn't have a infrastructure to work with because the way Niji works as a corpo is very different to hololive.

NijiEN fans don't know who Mito is because they're all EOPs who got into vtubers in 2021.

>>71733387
>Jacking off to skinwalkers
Fucking kek

>>71733744
Skinwalker shit makes no sense when they had someone as good as Uiha mogging everyone else, why would everyone not be up to that standard? Not to mention someone like Hoshikawa is pretty stiff when doing any kind of dance shit.

>>71733575
Now compare how much money they earn

>>71733165
But it's so strange, Sora debuted 5 days before Luna and Luna retired some weeks before EN existed. After a few more years this hobby will turn decennary, now wonder there's so many newfags...

>>71733852(me)
*no wonder

>>71733575

>>71733852
Luna debuted mid-December (just after nekomasu and aoi iirc), like 3 months after Sora. (Dunno where you got 5 days, maybe her youtube channel was created then? But she streamed on nnd before then.)

>>71733821
>>71733958
>Mito is less popular than Sora!
>no, she's objectively and demonstrably not
>uhhhhh, actually she has more money and a plack
whatever helps you cope

>>71733805
AIIIIEEEEEEEEE DON'T LOOK SISTERS

how come people replied seriously to the question, when mito is actually more popular than sora? both are boring and shit though

>>71734059
How was your pagpag dinner, sister

>>71734094
>basic cartwheeling is considered a challenging physical activity to Holobronies.
Bro. You only make your girls look shit. Beside, didn't Korone also can do stunt like that? Or perhaps Korone was also skinwalked too?

>>71733575
Literally half of Mito's side is some kind of event or collab, besides Sora streams way more so I think they're about equal(if you don't count Mito's videos that usually gets 500k views)

>>71734297
That's the secret anon, the fags that throw around the skinwalking shit aren't actually fans of either group. They are just fat fucks thinking no one can do it because they can't.

>>71734297
That's because Korone is known to be fit and even does kickboxing.
Do you think Shiina is fit enough to be able to do that?
Besides, they already admitted to mixing pro dancers for their live AR concerts.

>>71726822
Mito sacrificed a lot of her influence fighting management, and it's only thanks to her sacrifice that things in NijiJP aren't as bad as EN (though this is slowly changing for the worse).
Also, Niji always relied more on the male side, and their company culture tend to push towards gratitude to the company, rather than previous senpais.

>>71734336
Oh yeah, collabs do way better.
I don't get why you delusional EOP newfags even bother arguing. Mito is Nijisanji's Fubuki in terms of impact and relevance.
Sora worked hard to keep the company afloat in the first few years, but she has fuck all to do with how far Hololive has gotten.

>>71727074
this is not 2019 anymore nijibro

>>71734684
>EOP
The irony kek
An one on one collab with fucking Peanuts-kun is obviously the same as a group collab with fucking ReGROSS

>>71734502
>they already admitted to mixing pro dancers for their live AR concerts
source?

>>71734858
t. watched TouPea christmas video and thinks Peanuts-kun is the biggest name in the industry
Try following this hobby for more than a year.

>>71734783
This >>71733575 is from today retard

>>71734961
He didn't even watch it but saw people posting about the numbers. Most people here never watch anything.

>>71733958
They won't even let Mito hold a virtual play button with her name on it. Fucking kek

>>71727334
Hololive started before nijisanji

>>71734502
>Do you think Shiina is fit enough to be able to do that?
Are you saying only Korone can be fit? Are you saying everyone else cannot? Are you saying Shishii cannot practice to do just one cartwheel? How fucking retard can you be? I think that other guy was right. You are just projecting fat fuck.

>>71734502
>Do you think Shiina is fit enough to be able to do that?
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if a friend of Korone was fit to be quite honest with you.

>>71727935
Still don't understand what that retard was thinking going after one of the biggest Vtuber in Japan.

>>71735027
She gets to hold Riku-sama's hard earned play button!?

>>71727334
No wonder nijinigger are retarded, you're the blight of this industry and any real OG chuuba fans the original Nijifag are retards from NND

>>71735104
He's a shit poster, he was shit posting.

Where are you newfags coming from? Nijisanji has admitted to skin walking before.

>>71735055
Nta, but sounds like you don't even watch streams or even clips.

>>71727334
Mito only just barely beats out Roboco for debut.

>>71735220
nta, but it sounds like you're fat lol

>>71735212
source?

Didn't Mori have skinwalkers at her sololive?

why are you guys just lying now

>>71727935
Slandering a Holomem's fans, or any respectable chuuba's fans for that matter, is equivalent to slandering the chuuba herself. Many have said as much on stream

>>71735249
>Unironically using fat as an insult on 4chan
Why are nijiniggers like this

>>71735834
Lose weight, fattie.

>>71735834
>hur hur I'm not fat I'm literally CHAD
Yeah bro, whatever you say.

>>71735919
>>71735976
Go back to xitter if calling others fat is the best you got, nijinigger

>>71727326
>>71729846
>>71733165
None of them are OGs like anon-kun, who debuted with a fapping video in 2015.

>>71733821

>>71735055
Anon... your reps...

>>71736087
>still hasn't denied it
lol fatty fat

>>71736518
That anon wasn't wrong.
Facial detection was still pretty garbage in 2015

>>71726822
holofan 4 life but i never watch or listen to sora
mito is way more kino

>>71727334
>29 November 2016 - Kizuna Ai's first video
>28 June 2017 - Shiro's first video
>7 September 2017 - Tokino Sora's first live stream and the start of Hololive
>25 October 2017 - Mirai Akari's first video
>3 December 2017 - Shiro's first live stream
>10 December 2017 - Kaguya Luna's first video
>22 December 2017 - Hololive opens audtions for a second vtuber
>31 January 2018 - Debut of Nijisanji's first generation and the start of Nijisanji
>8 February 2018 - Nijisanji 1st Gen Tsukino Mito's first video
>8 February 2018 - Nijisanji 1st Gen Higuchi Kaede's first video
>8 February 2018 - Nijisanji 1st Gen Hajiki's first live stream
>8 February 2018 - Roboco teased in Tokino Sora's stream
>10 February 2018 - Nijisanji 1st Gen Tsukino Mito's first live stream
>10 February 2018 - Nijisanji 1st Gen Aki-kun's first live stream and video
>10 February 2018 - Nijisanji 1st Gen Moira's first video
>12 February 2018 - Nijisanji 1st Gen Moira's first live stream
>13 February 2018 - Nijisanji 1st Gen Higuchi Kaede's first live stream
>13 February 2018 - Nijisanji 1st Gen Hajiki's first video
>14 February 2018 - Nijisanji 1st Gen Shizuka Rin's first live stream (on YouTube)
>16 February 2018 - Nijisanji 1st Gen Elu's first video
>24 February 2018 - Nijisanji 1st Gen Shizuka Rin's first video
>4 March 2018 - Roboco's first video
>9 March 2018 - Roboco's first live stream
>5 March 2018 - Nijisanji 1st Gen Elu's first live stream
>15 March 2018 - Nijisanji announces their second generation and debuts a bunch of new livers
>22 March 2018 - Hoshimachi Suisei's first video
>2 May 2018 - Nijisanji forms a new branch: Nijisanji Gamers
>2 May 2018 - Hololive opens auditions for Gen 1
>13 May 2018 - Yozora Mel debuts and starts Gen 1, and Sora and Roboco become part of Gen 0
>1 June 2018 - Shirakami Fubuki and the rest of Gen 1 debut
>17 July 2018 - Nijisanji creates Shanghai and Taipei branches and enters the Chinese market
>1 August 2018 - Sakura Miko's first video
>8 Augudt 2018 - Minato Aqua debuts and starts Gen 2
>16 September 2018 - Oozora Subaru debuts and finishes Gen 2's debuts
>15 November 2018 - AZKi's first video
>13 December 2018 - Nijisanji merges Gamers into the main branch
> 21 November 2018 - Kizuna Ai, Mirai Akari, and Kaguya Luna (known as the Big Three at the time) collab, and Akari gets her official birthday that day
>25 December 2018 - Sakura Miko joins Hololive as Gen 0
>10 January 2019 - "Virtual-san wa Miteiru" airs
>22 March 2019 - Shirakami Fubuki announces the formation of Holive Gamers
>6 April 2019 - Hololive Gamers debut
>19 May 2019 - AZKi and Hoshimachi Suisei join INoNaKa Music
>8 June 2019 - Hanasaki Miyabi debuts as the first member of Holostars
>19 July 2019 - Nijisanji creates a new branch: Nijisanji ID
>1 August 2019 - Hololive Gen 3 leaked
>9 August 2019 - Akai Haato's Holo Summer video gets banned
>9-12 August 2019 - Hololive holds its summer event at Comiket 96
>8 November 2019 - Nijisanji creates a new branch: Nijisanji IN
>1 December 2019 - Hoshimachi Suisei joins Hololive as Gen 0
You're now up to date on the order of all major vtuber-related events from 2016-2019. Hopefully you can figure out the rest from here.

>>71726822
Well, it's easy to explain. One is holo the other is Niji

>>71739089
Face detection wasn't much different in 2016. Go watch early Sora streams.

>>71727308
Mito is not patterned after anyone because she's not a solo debut.
Niji debuted a group of vtubers and Cover decided to turn hololive into a vtuber group by doing the same thing.

>>71739683
>holofan 4 life but i never watch or listen to sora
A very common story

Just checked both channels. Are holofags retarded? Niggers, just use Gura, holofes or stock price.

>>71740091
>Gen 0
You're wrong on this part, there is no such thing as gen 0, they only started to get called that later after HoloFes 1, they aren't called gen 0 when they are on same group performance on HoloFes 1, no one is intended to be debuted as gen 0, they just get grouped together later

>>71741506
Gen 0 doesn't become official until later, but Sora and others were colloquially refered to as Gen 0 by fans as soon as Gen 1 was announced.

>>71741803
>By fans
That's not how it works anon. .

>>71736518
I posted in this thread, can't believe I am here now wasting my time with vtubers

>>71739683
That's such a good song. I wish they produced a whole album like that for her. I want more goddammit. .

>>71726822
OPs picture is pure sexo

>>71726822
she is extremly popular in japan, EOP-san

>>71726822
Why is Nijisanji's first liver, Mito, so much more sex though?

mito is not that active anymore compared to sora, sara and salome both has blitzed past her in niji jp females hierarchy. mito was the company's mascot but then salome appeared and mogged her in both numbers and merchandise seller. i feel bad for mito because shes similar to sora, both are actually virtual vtuber idols unlike the fake ones we see nowadays in laplus, regloss and holo id who shames their fans on a regular basis with their terrible, self-awareness comments. geez, i watch vtubers to be happy and not to be depressed even more with your immersion breaking comments. some of these girls should just go and be egirl-twitch flesh streamer, stop wearing that anime girl mask if you want to be a whore so much.

>>71736518
I was there when history was being written in /a/