/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>71670097
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

>>71669927
lol no not even close

>>71669927
Yes.

>「My Dearest」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover) *new*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s
>「DAYBREAK FRONTLINE」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>「名前のない怪物」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>>71669964
Oof, and who is the strongest? I absolutely have no idea what is happening in the Japanese show business outside of vtubers.

>>71669891
i thought bae was the runt of promise?

SPORTS SPORTS SPORTS

>>71669799
I overslept and missed Mumei's MC part but just watched it. I can't process how fucking cute she is, like I look like a retard smiling.

>>71670183
That would be the worthless green whore who ruined an otherwise perfect stage.

>>71670180
>I absolutely have no idea what is happening in the Japanese show business outside of vtubers.
Nor do anyone in this thread, reason to which asking that question here will result in wrong answers only.
Here is something to color your perspective
>mafumafu, arguably a small player from the japanese idol industry, has more spotify monthly viewers than Suisei and Mori combined

Next Gen Korone.

A win for Gura is a win for Hololive.

>>71670266

>>71670180
>>71670266
Least conspicuous samefag

>>71670180
nta but overall its still johnnys even after all the drama
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1290757/japan-most-popular-female-idol-group/
for females

>>71670314
i saw the video on twitter of her walking through the show, it was so cute

Faumei lost

>>71670314
no way, that's just midget female koronesuki

pekora tilting

So now that the Vtubing world has enjoyed a short respite from all the bad things that has happened in the past few months, you guys think Niji will start to churn out drama again starting in a few hours or so?

>>71669927
no, not even close to what nogizaka has achieved

>Nigga here unironically said King Gnu was only famous after their JJK song.

Holofes waiting/chat room numbers + Post fest talk numbers so far
>Okayu ￥1,053,152
>Koyori ￥980,860 (day1 and day2 waiting room closed)
>Subaru ￥976,772 (waiting room closed)
>Aqua ￥850,632
>Marine ￥718,907 (waiting room closed)
>Nene ￥664,500 (postfes/created after the live, room closed)
>Kanata ￥524,458
>Luna ￥471,792 (postfes/created after the live, room closed)
>Noel ￥413,874(first waiting room closed, day2 still open)
>Lui ￥407,500 (room closed)
>Kiara ￥393,660
>Mumei ￥368,109
>Matsuri ￥354,861 (waiting room closed)
>Botan ￥353,085 (waiting room closed)
>Flare ￥319,869
>Pekora ￥234,014 (waiting room turned into climbing game stream)
>AZKi ￥223,579
>Aki ￥214,782 (waiting room closed)
>IRyS ￥201,845
>Haachama ￥188,065 (created after the live, room closed)
>Laplus ￥157,292
>Watame ￥148,516
>Iroha ￥123,582
>Sora ￥114,000 (postfes/created after the live, room closed)
>Mori ￥111,012 (postfes/created after the live)
>Fubuki ￥70,231
>Bae ￥36,826
>Choco ￥28,588 (postfes/created after the live)
>Anya ￥4,791
>Towa ￥26,335
>Roboco ￥1,648
>Miko ￥7,897
>Mio ￥0 (Superchat off, room closed)
>Fauna ￥0 (Superchat off)

>>71670183
those are paid actors anon

>>71670509
Well, stock market opens up later today, so we'll get to see if they hold steady (drama over) or the stocks will collapse again (drama continues).

>still cant move on

>>71670534
I don't remember Okayu being this strong at SC.

>>71670314
The flow of talent has started.

>>71670351
Holostars will get that women audience after they have concert.

>>71670183
It fucking breaks my heart to say it but IRyS might actually be the least popular member of promise

>>71670534
Anya is above Roboco lol.

To think the bloke who made this and other smol designs ended up falling for the "chemistry" meme and going to NijiEN when it was only LOE, never to be seen again on the Holo side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic4JIr7ImV4

>>71670314
There is more.

>>71670615
nah it would be kronii

>>71670180
It's Johnny's and it's not even close.

>>71669962
https://youtu.be/LmO6roX50mI
Inb4 clipwatcher, im lazy to dig deleted archives

>>71670534
Why Fauna is like this

>>71670648
Walfie?
he's a pomudachi first and foremost

>>71670525
hololive is an IP company masquerading as an idol company

>>71670270
>mafumafu
>a small player
anon the last time mafumafu was a "small player" was way back in 2014
the guy is huge and has worked with both disney and pokemon only reason he seems small was because he slowed down his activites since 2020

>>71670509
Anon the stock market opens in 7 hours

>>71670534
SC number is really as random as sub these days

>>71670698
That's why suisei is so mainstream

>>71670648
>kiara on the comment section

>>71670725
She will forever think she doesn't deserve it, while being completely grateful when she does get it.

>>71670723
She only ever wanted to help Niji EN and look how that turned out.

>>71670775
Hence the "arguably" exactly because he looks small now

>>71670648
https://twitter.com/walfieee/status/1748550341694480752
last tweet lol

>>71670657
WTF IS THAT BAG?

>>71670615
With all we got to see from audience and some photos, it's a good amount of brats and saplings, some hoomans with merch, but I don't remember seeing anything with kronies/crats
>>71670725
Her bday very soon so she probably thought it's unnecessary? She already gets a lot between normal streams.

>>71670839

idol corp redebuts are botted lol.

>>71670851
let me guess, never step in to any airport?

>>71670725
Too much of a sweetheart honestly

>>71670525
Anon here really need some wake up call. This is Nana Mizuki (Symphogear VA) live at Saitama Super Arena, capacity: 35.000 seats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZm87AQfwJQ

>>71670648
Walfie still does a lot of things for Hololive. He's deleted a lot of his Nijisanji-related tweets since the infamous black vid save for the ones with Pomu.

>>71670851
You can put your kid on it.

>>71670945
I do actually
3 times only though(HK/Singapore/Thailand)

>>71670834
thats a retarded exaample then because its the same as saying that michael jordan is a small player in basketball now because he has not scored a point last season

Is Hololive the strongest female idol agency in JP?

>>71670534
ENflops...

>>71670936
Maybe. It tracks in lower intervals so it's less obvious but if it keeps bobbing up and down then yeah that's sus.

Tell me bros how was the moom Mc

>>71670663
Unlikely. It’s between Bae and IRyS.

>>71670663
Eh...I'd say Kronii is still more popular overall. She usually gets shit numbers on her solo streams but in collabs she consistently beats IRyS, and it's not necessarily close either

>>71670936
I thought you were being a prick but no it really does look botted

>>71670989
Anon, an arena will be filled only because NANA WILLS IT, of course Holo isn't at that level yet.

>>71670936
post number

>>71670819
Fauna thinks this about my penis btw.

>>71670936
>t. botcuck

>>71671020
>Walfie still does a lot of things for Hololive
I understand that but that characterization
>still
>lot of things
shows up much he ended up missing by ending up enthralled by NijiEN and Pomu in particular.
One can only wonder how big he could have gone if he boarded Hololive as hard as Kay Yu did

>>71671058
Yes.
Next question.

>>71671058
see
>>71670351

>>71671058
Still not even close anon
Hololive have never even achieved anything on the range of hundred millions. When you look outside for once Hololive is still super small

>>71670663
>>71670928

At least kronies had a gathering photo
https://twitter.com/_Gunpuku_/status/1769365731236630943
>>71657572
I have yet to find anything for crats

>>71671038
>HK
those thing really popular on china and east asia tho

>>71671132
Wouldn't have gotten anywhere if he wasn't such a filthy genwunner. He literally didn't give a single iota of a fuck about Council's debut, let alone at all.

>>71670351
Oh i've seen Perfume, their latest album only sold 9k more physicals but 3k less digitals than Suisei's Specter on their first weeks. Hololive should be bigger than Perfume by now. Can't say the same for Nogi46 though, their tags often go on twitter top trends everyday randomly.

>>71671020
>Walfie still does a lot of things for Hololive
Like what? What is the most recent thing? What about the thing before that.

>>71671075
moom cute

the holonigger fears the phasechad

>>71671080
Dammit i hate Symphogear! Hope they'd make another season.

>>71671075
Even more autistic than you can imagine

>>71670928
How does IRyS spend all that energy pandering to JPs and yet JPcrats don't show up to fes?

>>71671243
>phasechad
*jewcorp

>>71670989
>Anon here really need some wake up call.
I still remember how this threat react to Dream's 1 mill face reveal stream
Truly shows that >we are indeed, know nothing outside of Hololive (Or Vtubing for that matter)

>>71671197
>if he wasn
*considering he was
I need sleep but I can't sleep I hate this

>>71670928
Kronies did do a gathering
https://x.com/_Toshji_/status/1769340141741731920?s=20

jwu, any yabs?

>>71670989
Don't sell her short. Here's Tokyo Dome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvSV978JadU

Koro Flip.

>>71671075
as much autismo you can think off and even some but it gave us one of the best webm and image of the fes

>>71671325
hololive is mainstream and anons here and seething

>>71670534
total supachat so far is ￥10,745,034

>>71671243
True but at least I have my friends to make me fee safe.

>>71670819
Alternative take: she'll feel more obligated to do things like lives if Saplings keep throwing money at her and she finds the concept scary.

>>71671325
Just the usual, Niji being saved by holo great performance, the twitch thread totally not being parasocial for their whores, idol botting their debuts, phase and their delusions of grandeur, you name it.

>>71671347
>Light version
>Heavy version
Man, Korosan's anti-air game is tight asf

>>71671325
stage 3 flopped because suisei and miko have boyfriends

https://x.com/holocuredev/status/1769277340729938129?s=20

This is the litmus test if Kay Yu will just add homos or do some sneaky DLC/side game for them

There is no real reason to "not" add a homo emote from a unitychad project perspective.

>>71671075
https://litter.catbox.moe/f17u3v.mp4

>>71671397
She did this last year too, dude. And that was before she got burnt.

>>71671294
I do actually, I been in /a/, /v/ and Twitch, and are accustomed to a lot of big numbers like pic related
Hololive seem big because of promotion, but they have a long way to go

>>71671347
I Kneel

>>71671325
Does the Plappa AI thing count?

>>71671172
>8
>twerking
Well, not much of a brag.
>>71671249
It's been several months since they hinted a new project, but I don't think shared much detail (movie? new series? still old new cast or fresh blood? I love the old cast but there are really no new arcs for them at this point)

>>71671221
And the month before that, he did Ame stickers for the HYTE PC case. And the month before that, he did a bunch of doodles for Holoearth.

>>71671075

#bros what was your favourite unit song performance in the festival?

>>71671536
the pissbreaks

>>71671080
Some people just don't understand that Hololive is not at the level of popularity that they think it is.

>>71671576
Pipe down Nijisissy, your queefing pussy is already well and thoroughly ruined by HOLOBVLLCOCK!

>>71671470
Pippa's done like 20 AI streams at this point.

>>71671536
Seishun archive

>>71671447
Kek, autism incarnate.

>>71671536
Ame, Mumei, Shion

>>71671476
Why the fuck doesn't Cover just buy those doodles to use forever how they want.

>>71671536
Last Frontier

>>71671536
TLF

>>71671536
FAUFAU AND CHAMMERS OFCOURSE!

>>71671473
>there are really no new arcs for them at this point
Symphogear need logic?

>>71671536
shion, mumei, ame

>>71671447
thanks anon. can i get a muted version and only mumei is audible

>>71671650
Anon they can actually get those doodles without paying since its based of their ip
They just want to work with walfie

>>71671413
yeah eachother

>>71671325
Niji is more mainstream than holo in japan

>>71671650
Because they want to create a good relationship with the artist and it's not even expensive to hire them?

>>71671347
damn, took her 2 whole years to build enough meter to EX it

>>71671536
Shion mumei ame

>>71671536
I am obligated to say PekoNene, feel free to blast me down

>>71671536
Roboco aqua and fauna was super cute and i went straight to go watch it again as soon as i could

>>71671536
Holostars ad before concert

>>71671823
perfect for pronebone

Story Time Starflower

1940 on Monday
1540 on Tuesday
As seen here, Anycolor is considered to be a part of "Prime Market" on the Tokyo Stock Exchange
https://www2.jpx.co.jp/tseHpFront/StockSearch.do?callJorEFlg=1&method=topsearch&topSearchStr=5032
And as seen here, TSX requires "Prime Market" stocks to add up to 10B in total stock value
https://www.jpx.co.jp/english/equities/listing/continue/details/02.html
At 1590 yen per share they will fall below that 10B yen total, which automatically triggers Tokyo Stock Exchange's "Improvement Period" which basically means "you have a year to unfuck yourself or we delist you".

>>71671359
Post it I want to see

>>71671536
goob boob sandwich or okayu moona purple duo

>>71671772
wasnt there a survey where holo was around 12 while niji was around 29 in tearms of popularity rankings?

Found this browsing through Twitter. Looks like some new permanent merch
https://twitter.com/SOSO19814340/status/1769319664419737733

>>71671999
>>71671447

>>71671746
>>71671783
i guess. world is full of great artists but they decide to work with borderline menheras and bitch ass cunts. i wonder why they haven't invited that one schizo music maker to write a new song for ame.

3D soon?
https://twitter.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1769360611723641165

>>71671772
>>71672047

>>71672055
holoEmblems

>>71671536
Last Frontier or The Marina+Kanata song battle

>>71671068
huh? vrabi has idolcorp?

>>71672098
>3D soon
It's been 8 months, obviously.

>>71671277
This is probably her biggest problem actually. JP fans will stick to JP members and EN fans will gravitate towards members who aren't trying to be JP lite and I don't necessarily mean that in a bad way, it's a niche and she's doing pretty good so far but she's not as popular as the other EN members

>>71671772
this ain't 2020 anymore

>>71672055
yeah rubber keychains with the individual logo

>>71672098
well the faster advent get theirs the faster they can get re gloss' 3d

>>71671983
so are they expected to go up or down? Or up then down? Anon said last thread it was expected to rally slightly by 10pt on Monday

>>71672070
>i guess. world is full of great artists but they decide to work with borderline menheras and bitch ass cunts
have you ever interacted with artists? like 99% of them are menheras or have some mental illness while the other 1% who are normal cant draw shit

>>71672098
After ReGLOSS

>>71672140
They have a lot of indies on their "General page". The issue is they only ping the API for their numbers ever 5(?) minutes or so.

>>71671940
Starflower is never coming isn't it...

Looks 100% botted

>>71672223
up for a while and massive dump

>>71672237
Tempus 2 first

>>71672223
at this point nobody fucking knows, it's all guesswork. Could collapse, could stablize. Could even shoot up abit as investors can't tell the difference between holofes and nijisanji. Can't really tell until the market opens in about six hours

>>71672223
There are 2 scenario that can happen
>It go down further
>It suddenly shot up back to 3k (don’t ask how it just happen)
Both scenario are funny

>>71672323
those are bomb creaters made by the idf

>>71672183
Fuwamoco are going to learn this the hard way

>>71672323
new channel? looks like a battle of ytbot vs viewfarm ruru

>>71672323
Looks like a normal debut to me. They tend to fluctuate a lot.

>>71672465
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wOgtUvZ9xc

>>71672399
I'd prefer they learn the more important lesson of not streaming a fucking visual novel for 10 streams.

>>71672323

>>71672323
yeah shits botted

>>71672379
Short squeeze might make it shoot up
Too many people short selling and needing to return shares

>>71672288
https://youtu.be/rAO-w9stKAU?si=3N3aSzoxNf4IvRUA

>>71672368
>Could even shoot up abit as investors can't tell the difference between holofes and nijisanji
Oh god this would totally happen

>>71672465

>>71672183
Then why is mumei/gura so popular in nipland even though they don't specifically pander to them

>>71670648
So was he one of the poor saps who got into NijiEN before they got cucked by Luxiem or did he become a faggot who watched da boiz too?

>>71672223
I will be completely surprised if it can somehow dip below the 2k line before the next financial report. That next one will be the one to break or recover their stock.

>>71672465
So its Friend Raping time already

>>71672521
They did it at a "plausible" number. Without bots this might be a 2k stream.

>>71672611
broken jp is cute

>>71672611
They make cute retard noises that nips may not understand but find enjoyable

>>71672611
cuteness transcends language

>>71672611
shark-chan cute and grass

And here is for today's RASPBERRY REPORT with the NIjiEN KING having to take matters into his own hands once again!
With Octavio from the holostars being robbed out of a very good mark by an untimely betrayal the battle between NijiEN and Phase for monthly dominance continues heated!
Kunai and Hex, Scarle and Claw tag teamed to contain the phase contenders and with an absurdly powerful 326 mark gold today went to the KING, unbeaten and unconquered for the glory of the NIjisanji kingdom!

>>71672610
Got into Lazulight/Obsydia at a time when the "chemistry" argument was, if not valid, at least understandable. Myth had almost no collabs, and there were constant rrats about them hating each other, while the new Nijis were streaming together all the time.

>>71671112
I doubt she has time for such small things, anon

They will inclining after this

>>71672611
It's unfair but some girls just don't have to fucking try ,everything just works for them.

>>71672843
>Octavio from the holostars being robbed out of a very good mark by an untimely betrayal
nigger was in raspberry range the day of fes, holy fuck hes a king in the making

>>71672521
kek, it is funny to see waves turn into a "triangle wave" because of lack of resolution

>>71672941
chu chu chu

>>71672899
I am curious why some of them stay in honostars. Like 5 of them have way more successful rm.

>>71672183
>but she's not as popular as the other EN members
What? The crowd went crazy when she sang sing my pleasure the

>>71672323
Looks like the 2nd climb around 02:40 is the new Live2d model/outfit reveal.

>>71672862
Luxiem really changed NijiEN for the worse. The current NijiEN look like a twisted abhorrent abomination, unrecognizable from the original NijiEN

>>71672663
nah 1000 at best
this isnt a new debut but a redebut of idols weakest branch

>>71672514
I'd rather they do what they love than be a fake trend chasing whore like Fauna

>>71671438
it's definitely in. The emotes came from other artists. And this is published under holoIndie, which means beggar prime (cover management) has an incentive in shoving veggies.

>>71673015
I would guess it's cause they are friends and see it more as a way to hang out while also making some money on the side.

>>71672862
Never understood why people want endless collabs. The occasional planned collab is fine with an unexpected one popping up once in a full moon. Every stream being a collab is tiresome.

>>71672575
Back* they're never coming back is what I meant to say. A shame because they're really great together

>>71673065
>Luxiem really changed NijiEN for the worse
Only for suckers that expected Nijisanji English not to be "Nijisanji, but in english".

>>71672941
Chu

>>71671772
keep up with the time, nijinigger

>>71672843
Aster-kotei, I kneel

>>71673110
Because for some people, if there’s no endless collab then they are not friends

>>71672465
you did good yesterday, friend

>>71673110
Yeah agree, I think like 20% of your streams being collabs is a good balance, any more than that and it just takes away from your own community.

>>71672611
>mumei/gura
Gura sure is but mumei is never popular in Japan.

>>71673078
You are in the numbers thread.

>>71672098
WHY ARE THEY SKIPPING VANGUARD SENPAIS!

>>71673015
People underestimate the difference between "success" in indie ccv and success with merch and SCs. You can make a lot of money in a corporation, that's why you see a rush of people trying to get into them, even the shitty rinky dink 3view ones, and only a small trickle leaving.

>>71673272
who? (no really who?)

>>71673272
They definitely are not skipping Vanguard.

>>71673110
Some people eventually get bored of solo streams. More quickly if the streamer can't carry a solo stream well but is entertaining in collabs (Kronii comes to mind)

>>71672611
imagine how they'd seem if you couldn't understand them
this overstates it a bit but, to fully native en speakers, they're both "dark" characters doing cute things
what if you couldn't clearly sense that about them?
hm

>>71673015
connections and money, they have staff and managers that setup anniversaries/birthday and other collateral merch runs, you don't get that shit as indie

>>71671746
i remember it was theorized that they actually did it for when they made the Smol rigs and that then he became sour because of IP technicalities or something, again, I remember it was right after showcasing them that he basically stopped making the very regular Smol ame stream summaries and switched to make Niji stuff, while practically avoiding mentioning holos the way Pekora skirts around Miko, which gave rise to the idea that he couldn't do more smol stuff, and that it goes the oposite way with Ame Bee because it still counts as his own distinct creation, again,i don't think that's how it works but people proposed it

>>71672843
Its was so weird to see TTT in 3view range a week after their debut and that was before the selen drama
The new EN wave debuting this month is going to be grim

>>71673147
The dudes in Niji JP aren't anywhere as gross as Niji EN.

>>71673272
different branch, different pipeline. this is what stars fans said when uproar's 3D was revealed long before ID3's, anyway.

>>71673324
some card game

>>71673018
Because she's fucking amazing when she sings. I didnt say shes unpopular or anything, just less popular than some of the other EN girls.

>>71673110
>nijisanji
>not running buffs into the ground

>>71673110
Personally I think the Minecraft streams after Council's debut are still among the best HoloEN content of all time. I agree that not every stream should be a collab, but I wish we could go back to those times where Promise had the time to jump on each others' streams once in a while.

>>71672399
Fuwamoco speak far less JP in their streams than IRyS. Like maybe 90-95 percent of the average Fuwamoco stream is in English unless responding to supas, with IRyS sometimes 1/3 of the stream or so is in Japanese.

>>71673407
>The new EN wave debuting this month is going to be grim
anyone who still decided to sign up with them after the 12th deserves everything that happens to them

>>71673015
>get to fuck your oshi
>free promotion
>yagoo support

>>71673272
I don't think they are, all Tempus 2 is in Japan now. 90% sure they're doing 3D shit. The fact that they were excluded from Holostars concert also makes me think they might get a mini concert just for EN. Probably online only and probably for free, but still a group 3D stream with singing once at least 6 of them have it.

>>71673015
subsidized by hololive.
no need to work for it, your company activity is sponsored.

>>71672116
Lmao no woman ever heard of holobronies
HAVE FUN DYING OUT IN A SINGLE GENERATION
Toodles ;3

>>71673110
nerissas constant collabs are.....great

>>71673439
Vanguard is kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nwVRHYISCI

>>71673448
portal area my beloved, the holy grail of EN narratives.

>>71673495
Go back

>>71673110
It was novel back when Lazulight did it, and also it's great for the whole friend group replacement thing but then it went on so long and the group go so big that it got physically exhausting to keep up with, and the luxiem debuted and got in on the action and everything went to shit

>>71673147
In all honesty, at least early one the NijiJP males weren’t THAT bad. They kept to themselves more far more than they do now. Usually it was Minecraft where you saw the most coed collabs. With NijiEN, Luxiem just came along and completely made every girls’ stream about themselves. There was no quarter for the girls to interact with just the other girls. They and future NijiEN males took it beyond even what JP was doing. That’s what the homobeggars wanted for HoloEN: to be harassed by males constantly with little room for themselves.

>>71673110
This is why they should make tempus collab again, rarity is fine

>>71673508
lol
lmao even
They're getting 4 (one for each bday).

>>71673585
It's almost entirely Luxiem that killed the dynamic. People would have still been down for frequent collabs until you had shit like Luca stalking Pomu in Minecraft every time she played.

>>71673391
I mean if cover actually did that then he actually wouldnt be able to touch or work with any of the holo smol stuff

>>71673645

>euro hours
>Cuck fantansies start filling the thread

So they fucked? Live stream sex when?

>>71673710
Glorious.

>>71671536
Watatowa

>>71673423
I'll just make a leap of faith and assume that's just because you don't really know any of them or their girls.
They literally had to fire one which was making jokes about "spiking the girls drinks and raping them" pretty much ON DEBUT

>>71673065
lol, one of the girls from the very first wave ended up being a prime cliche bitch, they were never different and the lazusydiafags just keep deluding themselves.

i am getting lured away from hololive by asmr
please just one asmr holoen that is a bit yandere
please just give me a vampire

>>71673542
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNN

>>71673752
>Israel hours

>>71671536
My cute wife of course

>>71673486
i mean considering the current wave thats going to debut is recruitment drive right before the actors wave recruitment drive they might have signed up way back at the start of dec and they might not have enough money to get out of the contract

>>71672737
>cute retard noises
Cute noises transcend language barrier indeed. Check how many new Japanese comments this is getting. You don't really see that to that extent on other animations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfZP7yHUgjU

>>71673875
why are these incels enjoying a concert with females in it

wasnt this in the paid portion?

Where is the anon with the "Doomsday Bingo" or whatever it was called? I wanna see how it's going so far

>>71671536
https://litter.catbox.moe/zgy6ji.mp4
Kiara+Kobo
probably the only unit that has choreo

>>71673920
if you literally cannot think of a way to get out of a contract signed with a corporation that has zero reach outside of japan you're probably dumb enough to join nijisanji in the first place.

>>71673952
>holofes clips
they tend to be screenshots. not sure with this one

>>71673920
No they are going in understanding they go into debt the second they debut to cover its production value. If it was money they were concerned about they would go get a normie job, there will never be a lack of people hoping to make it famous at any cost.

>>71673950
it's a mystery...

>>71673641
See >>71673844, the Raito thing happened in 2019. Hajime is hated to this day for spreading bullshit about the then four heavenly kings.
Gwelu got in trouble not a year ago for similar bullshit. Mashiro had his channel terminated by youtube for showing 4chan tier gore (and Nijisanji management simply created another one on his behalf to circumvent youtube ban on his account)
Anyone expecting anything better from NIjiEN than "NIjisanji, but in English" and that got surprised by Luxiem was a complete retard and anyone STILLclinging on that excuse is likewise

>>71673947

>>71673952
it's a screenshot anon

>>71674012
ah looked at the clip and it was essentially stop motion with screen shots

>>71673952
Why don't you watch the video first retardo

>>71673423
>The dudes in Niji JP aren't anywhere as gross as Niji EN.
>Saying this when one of them got fired for planning to rape their female co-workers while another admitted on stream off scamming people with their money on dating sites

>>71673952
nigger if you actually cared you could've just clicked on the stream and figured out yourself

My wife's a rapper now?

>>71673952
>Euro dramashitter hours

>>71674098

>>71673844
I know that guy and I know they fired him in like 3 days or something. The general behavior of the guys in JP is nowhere near the behavior of Luxiem.

>>71674098
https://youtu.be/K-_oz-xUIPI?t=103
Always has been

>>71674098
she has always been a raper of shotas

>>71674098
>now

>>71673952
How fucking retarded are you actually? I assume that too retarded to commit suicide.

>>71673844
>>71674036
A Funny thing is that the Raito incident is actually one of the reasons why Holostars always had a negative rep from the general holo fanbase
Yagoo had the bright idea to debut them a few months after that incident when the raito stuff was still fresh on everyones mind

>>71674098
She's taken a liking to black men recently, so all of the sudden she's into it yes.

>>71674298
Source?

>>71673147
Literally no one would give a fuck about the males if a good 6/10 of the first two waves weren't constant yab factories and slimy sex pests
Imagine if Luxiem were Doppio, Fulgur, Ike, Sonny, and uh Ren or whatever instead of having the face of Nijisanji be some guy doing edgy sex ASMR and talking about his dick every stream

>>71674366
AI

>>71674298
Barf, im grateful nothing came out of this aside from a few group collabs

>>71674390
>male vtubers arent bad actually
Kill yourself

>>71671536
Azki Suisei
Reine Bae Risu
Moona Okayu
Polka Botan
Kobo Kiara
Laplus Towa Ollie

>>71674139
>The general behavior of the guys in JP is nowhere near the behavior of Luxiem.
Come on, for fuck sake, the whole reason the "offpako" incident killed the girls careers and turned Nijisanji into "manjisanji" was because the guys involved egged on the girls antis and made fun of the girls audiences while the girls were doing their best to damage control and try to reassure their audience.
I maintain that your opinion is likely out of lack of information about the JP side and out of trying to rationalize falling for the "NijiEN is HoloEN-lite" meme instead of recognizing early on that there was no other possibly timeline other than NijiEN being "Nijisanji, but in English"

>>71674036
I watched a lot of Nijisanji in 2018-2019. There just wasn’t as many coed collabs as there are now. This time period the girls ruled the roost before the males turned the company into a cock festival. Hajime saying shit about Kizuna Ai effectively made him radioactive for a long while to the other streamers. As for Raito, he was fired before anything could be said. Luxiem is the equivalent of hiring 5 Raitos and letting them harass the girls however they please.

>>71674354
Yeah, me.

>>71674390
If Luxiem was those shitters they would have 2k career streamers and it would have never got big in China. Vox's rape ASMR and Mysta's "unhinged" faggotry from debut are what got them over with fujos.

>>71674390
The council hater and guy that faked his death?

>>71674390
>Literally no one would give a fuck about the males if
Anon, nobody would give a fuck about poop in their food if poop tasted good and didn't stink.
But in this plane of reality poop spoils food and male vtubers spoil a female branch

>>71674390
>fulgur "didn't do as expected" ovid
>ike "black screen" eveland
>sonny "so bland he tried to fake his death" brisko
those guys are yab machines too kek

>>71674004
>if you literally cannot think of a way to get out of a contract signed with a corporation that has zero reach outside of japan
Who says they are not Meloco and Kotoka type hires? It makes sense since VTA deleted all of their vids but there are still 3 VTA graduates left that has not debuted which fits witht the whole 6 new niji talents this month that riku was saying

>>71674410
Just you wait

>>71674470
The dynamic was similar in EN with the established early girl gens having the best numbers until the invasion of Chinese Fujos gave luxiem the keys to the castle.

>>71674453
doesnt really look like the girls careers were murdered to me from those lines

>>71672843
Only red and black look too ominous.

>>71674354
only globalckucks could come up with this random narrative

>>71674608
>using EN to refer to nijicn and not HoloEN, aka EN
Of course.

>>71674608
more like luxiem became the lords and everyone else bootlicked for scraps

>>71674583
People would know whether these 3 spoke any English or not. I think that's unlikely. I think the "3 debuts" referred to the 3 JP people who just debuted and it was just mistranslated. We're already at the 17th with no hint of any EN debuts.

I think vox is gonna graduate

>>71674672
Not a narrative, anyone with a brain can see the changes Fauna's been going through these past several months.

Ok seriously where the hell is ID4

>>71674470
I thought mixed collabs were dying down in nijiJP. Saw a comment a while ago acknowledging how the girls have become accessories and how it's killed their viewership.

>>71674354
>>71674778
Why are euros like this?

>>71674739
>think the "3 debuts" referred to the 3 JP people who just debuted and it was just mistranslated
they said 6 new people not 3 debuts

>>71674778
Watch less porn

>>71674759
speaking of which when is the next graduation announcement
gotta be soon, they had their quarterly report and everything
>>71674804
it is not a profitable region so why ID4

>>71674778
ye, she moved, gtfo phasecuck

>>71674589
>just you wait
Two more weeks i take it

>>71674608
They did a good job hiring girls that would’ve been popular in Hololive like Gibara, Lulu, Sanbaka and Roa. Things started moving in the male direction when the fag from SMC became the most popular member. Same thing happened with Blues and by early 2020 Nijisanji just decided they were into cocks now.

>>71674804
Give Cover time. It's hard to find another set of girls that can match ID3's quality standards.

>>71674804
Hopefully in the trash.

>>71674849
I am betting on coz graduation
Nigga broke gura record

>>71672399
Nah theyre safe. Even if I don't watch them I can tell they are gonna be fucking huge if they aren't already. The twins gimmick works insanely well, they are content machines and pretty much everyone in hololive is gonna want to collab with them. In comparison IRyS kinda feels isolated and almost disconnected from the EN audience unfortunately

man all the big twitch vtubers wants to be in Shylilys ironic weeb TCG
I hoped that someone of them would go against the tide and not join

It's funny to see /wasp/ actively discouraging female vtubers from association with the guys due to the grooming problem(like their own fan becoming a vtuber to fuck)

>>71674589
Only thing that I'm mad is that no retard has even tried to make some horse nukige with KK models.

>>71674778
She got cuter? I agree that sounds almost impossible, and yet she managed to do that.

>>71674470
>I watched a lot of Nijisanji in 2018-2019
Anon, that's pretty much the equivalent of saying "I watched NijiEN a lot before December 2021", it is definitely not representative of what Nijisanji is and, specially, not representative of what Nijisanji was when NijiEN debuted

>>71674626
>doesnt really look like the girls careers were murdered to me from those lines
Anon? They had double the live audience of the Holo girls in 2019, were ahead of the NIji boys and now
>THEY ARE **BELOW** WHERE THEY WERE BACK THEN
You can trace both Hololive taking over the female side of vtubing and Niji boys taking over their company to that incident (and the events that surrounded it)

>>71674804
Cover wants CGDCT gen for ID4, but they can't find non-whores in Indonesia

I enjoyed Iofi's solo a lot.
Anya's and Reine's too to some extent.

>>71675003
If you think acting more like a twitch whore is cute then sure

guys
what's even next on the line for hololive?
they feel complete
like literally at their very peak
are new members even going to be what people want? I'm already overwhelmed with what we have and I feel like the new additions will only cause issues and problems because fame will always attract bad eggs.
i honestly can't think of anything to be hyped up for in the next year aside from waiting one more year for next holofes

>>71674807
If you are talking about the comments in the livedoor blog they were specifically talking about mixed collabs with lower shitters not mixed collabs in general
They basically want the males to only collab with the popular females to boost numbers

>>71674807
They became more common in the later part of 2019, especially since new ‘waves’ started having male members in them, forcing the girls to interact with them early on. It’s why mixed groups will always lead to the vtuber corpo becoming dominated by male streamers and should be avoided.

>>71672399
>Fuwamoco are going to learn this the hard way
They are the first in EN to have their merchs sold out.

>>71675003
Bratty fauna

Things happened this weekend:
> Kino holofes and holoexpo
> Man utd won against Liverpool to enter Semi finals
> Niji stocks are going to free fall
Could the weekends get any better??

>>71675053

Why the fuck is this global Faunaschizo here, this isn't even the regular Faunaschizo who jumps threads, it's one that's usually specifically in global.

>>71674972
anon what that's free content and a good excuse to spam handcams doing unboxing streams (for the ones that don't already go full flesh) while faking to be in a greater shared community, why you think someone would skip that.

>>71675070
If they really get rolling on Holoearth virtual concerts and your oshi doing live interaction on it, then they will go into another golden age.

>>71675148
a copycat

>>71675070
Next is full control of the entire scene.

>>71675070
No one knew they might want FWMC, and here we are.

>>71674390
Amazing how one of the few examples of decent Nijimales you can bring is a dude who is known for faking his own death. Really makes you realize just how fucking low the bar is for male Vtubers.

>>71674608
>The dynamic was similar in EN with the established early girl gens having the best numbers until the invasion of Chinese Fujos gave luxiem the keys to the castle.
I always find this cope funny
I hate Luxiem but only deluded nijifags actually believe that NijiEN was going to survive if they didnt get the luxiem infusion especially when they had shitty numbers back then
Hell if they didnt get the infusion and just stopped at ethyria there is a huge chance that they would have been also absorbed like ID and KR

>>71675162
>Holoearth virtual concerts
yeah anyone that doesn't think that never saw one, those are next level.

>>71675243
cute

>>71675006
2 years is still a lot longer than the 5-6 months the NijiEN saps got with being girls-only. Once the writing was on the wall for NijiJP(and idolbu crashed and burned), I fucked off to Hololive-only.

>>71675070
how does hololive have the scouting power to recruit these extraordinary girls but drop the ball with all their male talents who are not only menhera but ticking time bombs in attracting all the fucking trannies and political pos

>>71674390
>Doppio
Pornhub voice actor
>Fungus Covid
COUNCIL DIDNT DO AS GOOD AS EXPECTED
>Ike
black screen stream, weirdo that pretends to live in sweden and has been #metoo'd
>Sonny
Faked his own death
>Ren
NTR
wow what a good collection of people

Pekora did it!

Takos and irystocrats at the back

>>71675387
>hololive
can pick between the absolute top of the crop
>homo
please apply

>>71675031
now watch their stream

>>71675387
If every male vtuber is bad, how they suppose to find good ones?

>>71675162
did anyone watch HoloExpo in HoloEarth??....

I tried but its annoying to also follow things on twitter and youtube hence stuck with yt stream

>>71675312
The funny thing is I bet NijiEN would have higher view averages right now if they avoided debuting male vtubers.

>>71675452
>Sapling with horns on his hat
kek

>>71675452
That's a lot of Edamame

>>71675478
you speak as if they didn't "please apply" 5 years ago and got the mega talents like suisei aqua fubuki korone to make what we have now

>>71675511
nijicn full box before luxiem was the size of current Fauna average

>>71675511
Nah if they actually did survive until now without the infusion they would most likely be getting idol numbers

>>71675511
Anon you need to go back and look at Ethyrias numbers before they debuted males. Shit was dire and was only getting worse with each new debut.

>>71674972
>VCARD
ugh...

>>71675070
>they feel complete
>like literally at their very peak
I can say I felt that back in late 2020 when Myth was at their peak, after going through everything since I first saw Haachama playing QWOP and "goat simulator".
I never knew back then how FUCKING WRONG I would be and what a ride Hololive would be in the next 3 years or so.
The best is yet to come and you don't even know what it looks like

>>71675452
>a lot edamame
>no beer on sight

pekora's suffering is over.

The bottom line is that Nijisanji is not an agency of professional entertainers. They aren't held to a standard by management or expected to be presentable in a professional setting. Nijis are indistinguishable from amateur streamers grinding without direction.

>>71674972
Why not? They probably get a commission for it and some scraps of clout. Even saw "Ver" from Niji EN asking to be in it, even though that's obviously impossible.

>>71675574
god is a holofag not a homofag

>>71674995
Of course it's also male vtubers largely being radioactive

>>71675492
At least with western male vtubers, the ‘good ones’ are going to be traditional streamers and not vtubers. The ones who want into vtubing either couldn’t make it as a streamer and/or looking to have relations with the predominantly female vtubers. Can’t even use the ‘they just want to be idols’ when most male vtubers don’t even want to sing, even the homoEN faggots.

>>71675511
They would have flop without males luxiem saved the branch the problems came afterward with luxiem favorism and elira hiring her friends into the branch. If I was riku I was scrap the entire branch and start over with a new branch like they did for virutal real.

Oh no

>>71674139
> Gwelu : Unironic /here/fag that somehow got into a corporation, chafes at restrictions and continuously picks fights with almost everyone, only to get btfo time and again because the NND "troll" days have long made way for a much bigger audience that's just tired of dramashit
> Chaika : openly sided with Meiro against Roa, had a public spat with Midori, still picks public fights with other livers
> Yumeoi : openly admitted to catfishing people on stream
> nippleman
> Kanae : Luca of NijiEN, openly defends company because he's one of the top dogs "if they didn't like it, they could just leave". Concern trolled Salami about her fast growth and what "others may think of that".
> Kuzuha : Got onboarded into Nijisanji at a young age and internalized bullying hiding as "jokes". After maturing a bit, tries to keep things from going too far but his schizo dramafag audience from the early days still treats him like a king unironically and shits on literally ANYONE who they even THINK is damaging him in some way.
> Ibrahim : Similar situation, early audience from Kuzuha's footsteps, too embedded to shake loose.
> Nagao : Shits on senpai under the guise of "jokes", sometimes they push back.
> yellow shota : tried to leech off Gura while she was blowing up
> mashiro : got channel nuked due to goreposting on main, created another one, currently openly flaunting Youtube policies
Maimoto and Toya are probably the only clean ones left in Nijisanji, after Mayuzumi's departure.

>>71675387
There are no good male vtubers to recruit, period. Only faggots and creeps get into vtubing.

>>71675710
Probably have to scout in korea if they wana find male idols.

>>71675659
That's true and that's by design and the early motto of their company
>Nijisanji: anyone can be a liver
The thing is: Hololive upped the stakes so high Nijisanji was left without recourse but to follow and with mixed success too.
They stuck the Chronoir landing and it is possible that the revenue brought by their "idol" side (Chronoir + ROF-MAO) more than dwarves the revenue from the "semipro and hobbyist" streamers on the lower end of the company which left them in a conundrum
>should the company "clean their act" and go fully sanitized and professional like Hololive
The answer to that is
>they're trying, but they can't, because they're not cut for it and their old talent are resenting it

>>71675452
They're just eating a big plate of greenbeans?

>>71673110
I don't think anyone who was a fan wanted "endless" collabs, but they wanted SOME collabs.
A group of five that's all just doing their own thing separate from each other doesn't make for a very good "box" or collective brand to push.
See: VShojo.

>>71672575
i wish they made a better song for this group

>>71670615
I’ve already known that for a year, council fags will never support her like they would if she debuted with the other girls. And why would they when even En management forgets about her sometimes. The Promise rebrand was a nice try but lots of people still rather draw Sana instead of IRyS in the group. Luckily she still makes more than money than Kronii and she neck and neck with Bae

>>71675819
this

>>71675743
Nijisanji’s brand is poisoned in the west. No amount of changing things up will get any goodwill in the west (as if they had much to begin with when they were mostly popular in SEA). Unlimited had to change their name to wipe the stain of Gamebu off.

>>71675805
It keeps happening

>>71675833
There is no upside for a talented korean singer (boy or girl) to hide behind a virtual plastic surgery when they can get a real one and become a regular kpop artist

>>71675817
lmao what, yellow shota as in kou? he tried to leech off gura?

>>71675424
Was Fulgur wrong?

>>71675492
gens as idol groups whose streams are basically fan club meetings
or
every hire is an actual brotuber, i.e., no fags (real or seeming)
of course the best approach to hiring male vtubers is don't do it

>>71671277
>How does IRyS spend all that energy pandering to JPs and yet JPcrats don't show up to fes?
Is very simple. IRyS sole distinguishing factor is she is a top singer, but there are already a bunch over on JP who are top singers. You need something different to pull in a crowd.

>>71675817
maimoto is probably never coming back so it's literally just toya right now lol

>>71675805
Would've been me

>>71675817
>leech off Gura
QRD?

>>71675948
Maybe Anycolor can buy someone like Brave did with VSPO. Seemed to work for them somehow.

>>71675998
the weakest KFP
I kneel

>>71675998
oi, how did you get that many plushies

>>71676010
Promise is the Golden Gen

>>71675970
>when they can get a real one and become a regular kpop artist
The selection for kpop is pretty brutal, and a bunch dont make the cut. So they might jump at the second chance to be an idol.

>>71675387
A lot of dudes either just want to play games with no further ambition or they want to get close to the plethora of women in the hobby/their oshi.

>>71671536
https://youtu.be/S1Ln9-ksIQY
AQUA'S "LET ME BE YOUR SAIOSHI"
THE ULTIMATE FUCKING IDOL SONG FOR THE STAGE
AKUTAN DAISUKIIIIII AAAAAAAAAAA

>>71674405
>Bettel 4.3k
>Pippa 1.8k
Mogged by a homo on no no no

>>71675805
cute, who the artist?