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>https://twitter.com/95rn16/status/1769268570272506050
I hope you guys are ready for her to hemorrhage millions of Yen on a lawsuit that she might not even win

>> No.71650574
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71650574

>might not
More like absolutely will not

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>>71650301
Gee, Rushia. You're gonna lose TWO criminal filings?

>> No.71652573 [DELETED] 

>>71650301
That was the worst post she could find? KWAB

>> No.71652806

>>71650574
That was the worst post she could find? KWAB

>> No.71652893

why does she always start shit during holofes she did this the last 2 years as well

>> No.71653154

This is Cover's fault

>> No.71653617

>>71650301
And people call sitting on your ass playing videogames wasting your life. Imagine your life being this.

>> No.71653661

>>71650301
It's really not a waste when they know and expect her to use it like this. She has never been known for investing on streaming equipment or content for her fans.
I think anyone giving her money knows she will spend it in the worst way possible.

>> No.71653692

>>71650301
>giving work to lawyers all over japan
And people say she's a bad person

>> No.71654046

why didn't vshojo tardwranggler her

>> No.71654048

>>71653661
She did at least buy the KU-100 for ASMR streams. It's a waste that she's only done 3 of them in the last 2 years, though.

>> No.71654053

>>71650574
KEK you can't make this shit up

>> No.71654395

>>71654046
>why didn't vshojo tardwranggler her

Because she couldn't speak English.

>> No.71654593

>>71653661
>I think anyone giving her money knows she will spend it in the worst way possible.
Those kind of women exist and their men still pay for all of their whims. This is just the parasocial version of it, at this point

>> No.71654599

>>71650301
I will gladly. That lying faggot, Mafu, needs to be exposed

>> No.71654811

>>71650301
Who gives a shit, this bitch just need to go bankrupt so that she can do Jav and if she isn't going to put that body to work then she needs to just end it already.

>> No.71654898

>>71654395
k-son
henya
hiring a japan manager
etc

>> No.71655171

>>71654898
>k-son

Stopped giving a shit about her to focus more on Yakuza, real life idols to molest.

>henya

Didn't Rushia ghost her for being a filthy hafu?

>> No.71655407

>>71650574
>the court finds than anon is in fact a fag and that his oshi a shit. judgement for the defendant in the amount of 9001 tendies.

>> No.71655468

i love her and will always support her

>> No.71655504

>>71655171
Other way around, Henya ghosted Rushia for unknown reason.

>> No.71655555

>>71654046
have you seen the size of this tard

>> No.71655716

>>71650574
lmao, imagine being so delusional that she would sue for that
>8 lawyers
nvm, looks like she tried to scare them into a settlement

>> No.71655727

>>71655504
>Henya ghosted Rushia for unknown reason.

Is it possible Pikamee's fanbase told her what Rushia's true self is like and they didn't want their beloved kettle to not mingle with her?

Because if so I do not blame her (Pikamee).

>> No.71655877

>>71655504
Henya didn't ghosted rushia. She approached Mike for a collab but Mike wanted the collab on her MikeNeko channel because she wanted to boost her rm numbers. And since Mike couldn't get her way she threw a temper tantrum about it and made it seem like it was a henya problem when it never was.

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>>71655555
>55555
The numbers don't lie.

>> No.71656413

>>71655171
Mike has gushed about hafus and how cute they are constantly on stream. She's also part Russian herself.

>> No.71657179

>>71655877
Lmao no wonder kson felt like she was distancing Mike. Rescuing her then Mike didn't give a shit about being a VShojo member and just waited until antis got bored of her and left the agency

She even wasted some words to explain that she didn't drag notRushia with her to VShojo when we all know notRushia never acknowledged VShojo until kson got to her

>> No.71658442

>>71657179
Mike plan was always to become big I'm vshojo so that she can then funnel the fans to her rm. But it didn't work out that way. She was still getting decent numbers but nowhere near close to hololive levels of popularity. This woman had a breakdown during a outfit reveal stream on her nazuna channel because she wanted 20k viewers. She went as far as calling random people to ask them to tune into her stream one of the people she called was a kid who was in the middle of fucking class and lost her shit when she asked kid if he knew who she was when he answered no and called her a creepy old lady she yeeted the phone lmao. She went unhinged for a few hours until ironmouse tried to talk to her because kson was nowhere in sight.

>> No.71658583

>previous thread dies
>immediately makes a new one
Goddamn you're a lonely fuck huh lmao

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>>71658442
Holy shiiiiiiiiiiit

>> No.71659994

>>71654046
That's not what vshojo does.

>> No.71661055

>>71655727
>Is it possible Pikamee's fanbase told her what Rushia's true self is like and they didn't want their beloved kettle to not mingle with her?
Not possible. Only a small number of dedicated hololive fans disliked her for that reason until the mafu article came out.

>> No.71661239

>>71650574
Imagine triggering someone so hard they lawyer up 8 times.

>> No.71661536

>>71658442
what is this? are you the mole inside vshoujo are what?

>> No.71661605

>>71661536
No I'm not a mole that was an actual stream. Dig up the archives if you want

>> No.71661997

>>71658442
>she called was a kid who was in the middle of fucking class
She was using the app saitou san which is like omegle. She didn't just call up random people.

>> No.71662554

>>71653154
They tried to help her but her menhera panic just sent her ass to korekore. lmao. Why is it cover's fault now.

>> No.71663059

Imagine the alternate timeline where she had Discord pop-ups disabled. She would still be married, happy, and one of the most popular Hololive talents. It's just too cruel that one mistake can send someone spiralling like her. She deserves a break.

>> No.71663163

>>71663059
she still gave cakes to subaru before then, right?

>> No.71663829

>>71663059
>She would still be married, happy
The discord message was sent because she wasn't happy at all. It was the confirmation her husband was obligated to send her to show that he's not cheating.
Her bullshit would have eventually ended up affecting someone else in hololive so she got exactly what she deserved.

>> No.71663897

>>71662554
Imagine a timeline where rushia didn't ran to korekore she would be forgiven but mafu would still fuck her over regardless.

>> No.71664088

>>71663163
The cakes were pre-marriage, unfortunately.

>> No.71664135

>>71663059
Getting married was a 100% betrayal of her fans, especially her gachikoi. She doesn't deserve anything

>> No.71664290

>>71656413
>She's also part Russian herself.
guaranteed bpd fantasizing

>> No.71664297

>>71661997
>saitou san which is like omegle
If thats the case, then she did in fact call random people

>> No.71664314

>>71658442
The thing VShojofags always forget to mention regarding this is that she chose the day that she was fired from Hololive for Nazuna's birthday and that that stream was a result of perhaps the worst manic attack she's ever had on stream.
It wasn't just a case of throwing a fit because she didn't get her way, it was her mania flaring as a result of high stress that caused her to act out.
>until Ironmouse tried to talk to her
Also not what happened. VShojo sent a pre-recorded video to her birthday (had to be pre-recorded because they had to subtitle it as nobody could speak Japanese). Watching the video got her out of her manic spiral and she was able to carry out the rest of the stream normally. I'm not actually sure if VShojo staff tried anything to get her out of the spiral until that happened, although I doubt any of them actually understand bipolar disorder well enough to do much for her.

>> No.71664372

>>71664290
She just made up an imaginary grandfather?

>> No.71664506

>>71664314
So self-induced mania? She's amazing!

>> No.71664697

It's insane how much this woman needed exactly Hololive in order to not be a miserable wreck

>> No.71664744

Why does she always stream on twitcasting? Does she make more money on twitcasting than youtube?

>> No.71664825

>>71664744
If she does to youtube people are more likely to bully her. At most she gets at most 1000 people on twitcasting, where as she get at most 2.5-3.5k people on youtube, as well as bots.

>> No.71665124

>>71664297
But she doesn't choose who to call. There's no situation in which she chose to call a kid who was in the middle of class. The framing there is that she disturbed a random kid that wasn't in a place to take the call.

>> No.71665343

>>71664744
She streams on twitcasting when she doesn't want to play the character and put on the cutesy voice for 100% of the stream.

>> No.71665404

>>71663059
Mafu accused her of some serious abuse. There would never be any happy marriage.

>> No.71665683

>>71650301
She needs to get off the internet

>> No.71665775

Mafu responded https://twitter.com/uni_mafumafu/status/1769312773761339451?t=3fJ7Go9_gs96gxjLCuzPeg&s=19

>A Report]

>I have been sued back by the one whom I am suing in a court of law. However, a police officer told me that the police are obligated to accept and investigate all complaints that come their way, so there is no need to worry! (Even though it may be obvious, I also want to let you know that I will not be arrested.)

>I obviously have evidence and receipts to back up what I said. Moreover, please rest assured that the court cases and whatnot that I have initiated are proceeding smoothly!
>I have heard from many lawyers that cases of disclosure of information are not passed easily, and that there are many cases wherein it is actually illegal to disclose the information in question.

>I chose to touch upon this because there were many people worried about me!
>I’m sorry for bringing up such a dark topic again …
>I think that the proceedings will take a while, but I shall make another report once everything is resolved!

>> No.71665820

>>71650574
fucking LMAO, sauce?

>> No.71665854 [DELETED] 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT93SzK1XBc
Why was Aoi's watchalong solo

>> No.71665885

>>71664506
Do you have literally any idea how bipolar disorder works? High stress levels and lack of sleep are both triggers to manic episodes, and it's something that's been observed with her before. On top of that, particularly bad manic episodes induce hallucinations and delusions in the person suffering them, which 100% matches up with the comments she was making in that stream about hearing voices in her head telling her to push for 30k viewers.
Stop embarrassing yourself on the internet and at least read into this stuff. This goes beyond just a Vtuber thing at this point and it's now just you being proud of having no understanding of mental health issues

>> No.71665969

>>71665343
About 50% of her Twitcast streams are just her thanking people for donating in a cutesy voice.
What are you smoking, anon

>> No.71666102

>>71658442
God that's so hot
I need to fuck her so fucking bad

>> No.71666125

>>71665969
She still gets 50% to speak normally, retard. The goal for youtube and twitch is to be in character 100% of the time.
What are YOU smoking? The difference is obvious.

>> No.71666330

>>71665885
She's a known liar. Is there even any proof of this?

>> No.71666586

>>71666330
>Liar
That would imply she called that stream a manic episode herself, which she hasn't. I don't think she's even alluded to it since. Memory loss of events done while manic is pretty common
The proof is that multiple fans independently realised that something was off with her during that stream. Just watch it yourself and tell me that she was behaving normally. Stuff like motormouth or flitting from one idea to another are classic manic symptoms as your head would be racing. When even people who barely understand Japanese are openly wondering whether or not she should quit the stream early due to her behaviour, that's how you know that something's off
I think whatever autistic exactitude of "proof" you're looking for doesn't exist but it doesn't change the fact that pretty much everything lines up with that being a manic stream.

>> No.71666600

>>71665775
Why can't they do this in private?

>> No.71666761

>>71666600
They're both attention seeking menheras

>> No.71666949

>>71666586
>Memory loss of events done while manic is pretty common
You mean "memory loss" of things done while manic is pretty common. I remember back when I was still getting my meds figured out for bipolar that even though some shit was fuzzy, I could clearly remember the times I decided to just throw a chair at someone in middle school for no reason during an episode.

I just would never admit it and pretend like I was never in control of myself. Which, admittedly, only made things worse for me, but I was a stupid kid whereas now I'm a stupid adult older than her.

>> No.71667104

>>71666600
Because that wouldn't be entertaining

>> No.71667168

>>71654046
The fact Hololive managed to hold her down for 2 and a half years already feels Herculean in retrospect so I can't fault VShoujo for not bothering.

>> No.71667242

>>71665404
>believing muh abuse claims in the #metoo era
>from a gay alien nonetheless
Being asked to call your wife when you finish work isn't abuse

>> No.71667288

>>71601347
>>71601934
>>71604898
>>71606796
>>71615127
>>71617283
>>71617875
>>71618392
>posting pictures posted by the talent on her own Twitter is now dox
That's not what doxx is, schizo deadfan.

>> No.71667556

>>71666949
No, I mean that it's a recognized medical phenomenon associated with bipolar disorder that memory recall of manic episodes tends to be poor. Whatever you yourself did is your own concern, but you shouldn't project your entire experience with bipolar disorder onto other people and say that they must act 100% like you just because you're both diagnosed with the same thing.
Once more, this isn't even a case of quoting her or relying on her testimony moreso than just simple observation. It's also worth noting that she doesn't seem to understand stuff like "mixed episodes" at all, which would imply that she wasn't given a completely comprehensive overview of her bipolar symptoms.

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>>71658442
>Mike plan was always to become big I'm vshojo so that she can then funnel the fans to her rm
No it wasn't, that doesn't even make sense. Vshojos own their accounts and make just as much money there as their "roommates". There is literally no point in doing that. You can tell this is written by a holo watcher.
>This woman had a breakdown during a outfit reveal stream on her nazuna channel because she wanted 20k viewers
Not really she was just trying to hype it up. She was asking people to tell their friends and stuff. Her unicorns called it a breakdown because she decided to do the omegle bit but they say that every time she has any interaction with a male. It's how they cope.
>calling random people
Again you are describing this as if it wasn't just a goofy skit she came up with to waste time while more viewers funnel in. She didn't compile a bunch of fanart outfit predictions like holos do so she was wasting time and trying to build hype in other ways.
>She went unhinged for a few hours until ironmouse tried to talk to her
You read a thread where one of her unicorns claimed she became normal "thanks to Ironmouse". What that actually means is that she decided to move on to playing birthday messages around when Mouse sent her a bunch of gift subs. Before that she did the omegle thing and then apparently got sad because people in chat were seething. Also this was 1 hour into the stream. The outfit reveal was before the 2 hour mark.
>kson was nowhere in sight
Picrel. She was there for the whole reveal from the beginning.

>> No.71668005

>>71667766
Least delusional Mikecuck

>> No.71668106

>>71668005
Don't reply if you didn't read my post.

>> No.71668225

>>71650574
>infringing her honor
Ignoring the fact women don't have honor, that seems like a pretty hard law to enforce at the best of times.

>> No.71668297

>>71667766
Sure mikefag you also thought she was a virgin and single when you bought that rushia engagement ring. Delusional weirdo

>> No.71668321

>>71668106
We always read your fanfiction. You get what you deserve.

>> No.71668359

>>71650301
I thought filing frivolous lawsuits can get yourself in trouble, or is that just an American thing

>> No.71668381

>>71668297
>>71668321
I don't watch her and I literally called her fans delusional in my post. What even is the point of trying to have a conversation about something you didn't read? What mental illness do you have?

>> No.71668563

>>71668225
What honor she has none she takes advantage of lonely single men for crying out loud. This reminds me of Sasha grey saying that having sex before marriage is a sin huge cope levels of irony.

>> No.71668741

>>71668381
>S-she didn't had a breakdown! It was just a goofy skit, haha, merely p-pretending!

>> No.71668945

>>71668741
It was. You're a threadreader and saw one of her seething ex-unicorns describing her talking to a male as a complete mental breakdown. You'd rather believe that the evil betrayer of Hololive is insane rather than her fans are ill.

>> No.71669010

>>71667766
>Her unicorns called it a breakdown because she decided to do the omegle bit but they say that every time she has any interaction with a male. It's how they cope.
Feels like the fags responding completely missed this part.

>> No.71669072

>>71669010
They missed the whole thing. Holomonkeys don't read.

>> No.71669112

>>71664372
Probably did, just like how she made up that she’s a graduate from Tokyo University and had a big office job before vtubing. Can’t doxx here but you can easily find her real face (without the shitload of filters and editing) and details of her past on Twitter. She is most definitely not part Russian, unless she means Ainu or something. Possibly having a grandfather from Hokkaido doesn’t really make her mixed.

>> No.71669235

>>71668741
it was just a prank!

>> No.71669325

>>71663059
She literally played herself. The reason she got that message is because she was forcing the alien to always talk to her at all time about his whereabouts. She didn't know the thing she done would have backfired but it always does, fate exists.

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>>71669235
Like the engagement rings!

>> No.71669517

>>71669072
But I am a holochad and read the post.

>> No.71669523

>>71669377
Maybe Mafu wanted an authentic Rushia ring for their marriage and Rushia saw a way to kill 2 birds with 1 stone?
Merch AND make the husbando happy

>> No.71669536

>>71667168
Didn’t MafuMafu say she had a whole team of 5 or so managers?

>> No.71669754

>>71667168
They didn't hold her down since she was doing all of this stuff behind the scenes once the stream turned off. They just made her not bring it onto her stream.
They clearly have some kind of training regarding protection of brand image and she was even talking to korekore about it.

>> No.71669862

>>71669523
It would be hilarious if the ring she sold was a replica of the engagement ring mafu proposed her with, the ultimate fucking slap to anyone who purchased it and still have it in their oshi altar.

>> No.71669905

>>71668225
Why are you like that man, what do you mean dont have honor? How fo you even get to this point.

>> No.71670028

>>71669517
You read a guy call "mikecucks" delusional and then thought "ah this must be one of them"?

>> No.71670086

>>71670028
Are you fucking retarded?

>> No.71670239

>>71669905
It's well known fact that woman are biologically incapable of understanding such concepts as honor, loyalty, accountability, respect, or empathy

>> No.71670645

i dont understand why that alien dude opening pandora box in the first place?

>> No.71670713

>>71670086
You didn't read it.

>> No.71670729

>>71670645
Same kind of menhera as her

>> No.71670814

>>71670713
I did read it but you're being a schizophrenic hololive hating vwhorejo retard as usual. Point out to where I called you a "mikecuck". You won't because you're too mad now.

>> No.71670898

>>71655504
>unknown
kek

>> No.71670970

>>71670814
It's right under the post you didn't read.
>>71668005

>> No.71671084

>>71670970
That's not my post you fucking schizo. Good job on proving that you really are a seething vwhorejo fan that loses his mind the moment someone says they don't hate hololive.

>> No.71671321

>>71671084
Calm down sister, you're being hysterical.

>> No.71671414

>>71671321
Is your schizophrenic episode over? Can you point out the post where I called you a "mikecuck" now?

>> No.71671511

>>71671414
You didn't read my previous post either?

>> No.71671616

>>71671511
I did. You didn't read my post. Show me where I called you a "mikecuck".

>> No.71671686

>>71671616
It's right under the post you didn't read.
>>71668005

>> No.71671726

>>71671511
Kys Mikecuck

>> No.71671774

>>71671686
That's not my post, moron. Show me where I called you a "mikecuck".

>> No.71671981

>>71671774
Perhaps you shouldn't butt into random conversations on this anonymous forum and then get upset when the participants can't distinguish between you and the other anonymous user who was involved. That's not how chads act.

>> No.71672040

>>71658442
Based on the quality of /vt/ rrats there is a decent chance that this was a funny bit that is now being misrepresented.

>> No.71672105

>>71671981
I didn't butt into a random conversation. I responded to the original post here >>71669010
You're just going insane because I don't hate hololive like you do.

>> No.71672185

>>71665775
I wish the japanese streamed their trials, would be fun as fuck to see when they show the evidence, probably recordings of Mike trying to kill the dude, millions of menhera calls and messages...

>> No.71672430

>>71672185
Do you think they'd show Mikeneko's actual appearance or would she be forced to show up in court as her vtuber self?

>> No.71672438

>>71672105
Now it's time for you to show me where I said I hate Hololive.

>> No.71672505

>>71672430
a fucking ipad screen on the stand moving around while screaming about her husband been mean

>> No.71672630

>>71672438
>You can tell this is written by a holo watcher.
>Holomonkeys don't read.
Right here, retard. Go watch another sleepathon.

>> No.71672641

>>71672105
Can you prove he hates hololive?

>> No.71672643

>>71672430
If the trials went public, which means the court documents going public too, I would hazard a guess mikeneko would have to appear in person and not as her vtuber model.

>> No.71672743

>>71672630
So other words you couldn't prove shit. And by the way you aren't a part of hololive so you can be shat on as much as possible you dumb fuck

>> No.71672800

>>71650301
I need a good qrd. Everything since the whole "mikeneko is married" thing.

>> No.71672805

>>71667766
>>71669010
>>Her unicorns called it a breakdown because she decided to do the omegle bit but they say that every time she has any interaction with a male. It's how they cope.
Because she was manic. The only people I've seen trying to deny it was mania are the Japanese people who don't actually understand her mental illness or EOP VShojofags who were trying to "own the corns".
Let's go over all of the weird things she said or did that stream. She
>asked people to spread word of the stream, on online noticeboards, Twitter, 5ch and 4ch (yes, she name dropped both 5ch and 4ch, not even in her usual "kaigai keijiban" way
>tried to set up a Minecraft server on stream with no prep
>when asked if she'd set up a fan Minecraft server, she bluntly responded with "no"
>said she could hear the voice of God in her head telling her to get more viewer
>started browsing through NND and Twitcast to try to find someone to call in to before she settled on the Saito-san thing
>did Saito-san live on air (this app was popular in the early days of Vtubing but it was always pre-recorded sections and never a live call in because you could get your channel banned if the person on the other end fucks you over
>talked about how she streams on Twitcast and told people to listen to them (Nazuna doesn't, Mike does. She'd never so bluntly told her audience that she was Mikeneko as Nazuna up until this point)
But sure, if you want to pretend it was just muh corns, go ahead and perpetuate a complete falsehood. Even /vsj/ were getting more and more concerned with her behaviour around that time and that general has never given a shit about "muh males" except as a means to shit on her fans (former fans, at this point)

>> No.71672894

>>71672743
You have an issue with anyone that watches hololive and anyone that's stupid watches hololive. You clearly hate hololive. Don't even try to give me that "B-B-BUT I ONLY HATE THE FANS!!!" cope.
You believe that no one should watch hololive. You hate hololive.

>> No.71672995

>>71666949
>I could clearly remember the times I decided to just throw a chair at someone in middle school for no reason during an episode.
Medical literature here. The amnesia is not you being unable to remember throwing the chair, it is that you are unable to retrace the thoughts you had leading up to you throwing the chair. Most people in most events of their lives are able to recall their thoughts and emotions just as well if not better than the actual events of their lives - retelling particular happy or sad stories will often cause people to cry as they effectively relive those emotions. What makes a manic episode a manic episode is that the person recalling it remembers it like a third party observer rather than as the pilot of the mind.

>> No.71673106

>>71653661
>She has never been known for investing on streaming equipment or content for her fans.
Speaking of that, whenever I saw Rushia stream, I always feel her stream as Rushia are just so low effort.
I always cope by thinking she's too stupid to improve or learn anything new.
So yeah, I can agree on that point.

>> No.71673129

>>71650574
>she fell for the oldest "just keep paying us and we'll win this ridiculous case" lawyer scam 8 fucking times

>> No.71673172

>>71650301
how much longer can this shit go on?

>> No.71673181

>>71670645
The lawsuit got leaked to a tabloid with the women being unnamed. Keep in mind the faggot was also lying to his fans, so I don't really blame him for putting out his own side and making her look as bad as possible.
Now all of their baggage is out in the public and it must be really embarrassing to be a fan of either and have to try to defend their marriage (which was a betrayal of their fans no matter which way you spin it)

>> No.71673277

>>71663059
Imagine an alternate timeline where she stayed loyal to her fans.

>> No.71673336

>>71669112
>She is most definitely not part Russian,
Source: anon, out of his ass
It'd be the stupidiest of things to make up in that it wouldn't really give her any benefit. She's even talked about stories from middle school about classmates noting that she had a "foreigner looking" face. Pick and choose the hills to die on, because this is honestly just getting retarded at this point

>> No.71673421

>>71672894
Prove where I say I have an issue with people who watches hololive. I have an issue with retards meaning you.

>> No.71673425

>>71670239
Anon if women didn't had empathy humanity would be extinct.

>> No.71673573

>>71673421
Right here
>>71667766
>You can tell this is written by a holo watcher.
>>71669072
>Holomonkeys don't read.
You randomly bring up people who watch hololive to insult them in order to shame anyone that likes hololive and then blew up at me for saying that I'm a holochad.

>> No.71673833

>>71672630
I called Hololive fans ignorant and stupid. What does that have to do with Hololive?

>> No.71673846

>>71673421
>>71673573
If it makes you feel any better, you're both retarded and autistic

>> No.71673958

>>71673833
And the point of doing that is to shame anyone that watches hololive so that they stop watching hololive.
Why would you shame someone for liking hololive? Because you hate hololive.

>> No.71674003

>>71673425
explain this statement please

>> No.71674079

>>71673958
I just stated a fact that the fanbase is unintelligent. Your inability to process a simple statement without getting defensive is a great example of that.

>> No.71674183

So which members of her fancord are simping and posting here? Put your hand up!

>> No.71674286

>>71666600
Mafu probably want to ensure victory in court of public opinion

>> No.71674331

>>71674079
That's not what you said. You accused random people of liking hololive. Your entire point is to shame others for liking hololive and you do that because you're a whorejo fan with a massive inferiority complex. I understand why you're lashing out like this, especially today.

>> No.71674468

>>71674003
Humans have evolved to have empathy and help each other, a women with no empathy would a psycho, if the majority of women were psychos with feelings offspring wouldn't get taken care of, social connections could not happen, just a bunch of stuff that hold communities together. It would be impossible for humans to have 50% of their population have zero empathy. We would have long gone extinct or evolved in a completely different way.

>> No.71674537
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71674537

>>71669862
Mafu also sold a ring like that to his fans. They are basically the perfect reflection of each other, GFE and BFE to fans.

>> No.71674609

>>71674331
I pointed out that a false and nonsensical statement was written from the point of an ignorant Hololive fan, as it is something that Hololive fans believe about certain Hololive members that does not necessarily make sense for members of other vtuber groups. Any reasonable person would agree with me. Especially about Mike, who many speculate deliberately made a new persona to separate from the drama associated with her other one. There is no reasonable explanation for that anon coming to that conclusion other than pure ignorance and regurgitating Hololive-centric "rrats". Feel free to post a logical rebuttal when you're done having a tribal meltdown.

>> No.71674689

>>71650301
This woman unironically needs psychiatric care. Then again, head-shrinkers tend to hate dealing with bipolars and borderlines.

>> No.71674790

>>71672800
Here is the cause of her latest mental illness exhibition
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm43525811

>> No.71674796

>>71674468
I mostly agree, but there are plenty of non empathetic reasons to have children

>> No.71674830

>>71674609
>I pointed out that a false and nonsensical statement was written from the point of an ignorant Hololive fan
You didn't do that. You just randomly accused someone of being a hololive fan.
Also you insisting that anyone liking hololive is retarded means you believe that you have to be retarded to enjoy hololive which is an insult towards anyone in hololive. You think their content is garbage that only a brain damaged ape could like.

>> No.71674876

>>71674468
>if the majority of women were psychos with feelings offspring wouldn't get taken care of
Just compare today's society to society when they didn't go unchecked

>> No.71674885

>>71674609
Good job anon, you managed to be the most mentally deficient poster in this thread full of schizos.

>> No.71674902

>>71674790
wtf is that?

>> No.71674941

>>71674286
This is just going to end in blood, isnt it

>> No.71674957

>>71672805
>did Saito-san live on air (this app was popular in the early days of Vtubing but it was always pre-recorded sections and never a live call in because you could get your channel banned if the person on the other end fucks you over

I love how your reasoning in this entire apologia is predicted on her being batshit crazy but yet she still somehow conveniently has the foresight to not do a live Saito broadcast with someone who could bury her. Because she certainly never got banned from anywhere for making unauthorized interviews in a desperate attempt to save her own skin before.

>> No.71674986

>>71674902
Miguel illegal cat meme (Mosaic version)

>> No.71675054

>>71674830
>You didn't do that.
I did do that. It was when I criticized this statement in that post that you probably didn't read:
>Mike plan was always to become big I'm vshojo so that she can then funnel the fans to her rm
This is something that makes sense in the context of Hololive members due to how Hololive operates as a business. It is not something that makes sense for a Vshojo member. That is why I made the claim that it was written by a Hololive fan who is ignorant of how other vtuber groups operate.

>> No.71675088

>>71674876
We are talking even before society, that's why i said community. A version of the human species with 50% population with no empathy simply could not make it. Humans work together a lot, form bonds, those are super important to the development of the human species. We are not even talking about modern social norms, we are talking about trust in pre agrarian communities.

>> No.71675221

>>71674957
>she still somehow conveniently has the foresight to not do a live Saito broadcast with someone who could bury her.
You get matched with people randomly on Saito-san. She has no control over who she gets matched with.
Most people just disconnected on her. This isn't the "gotcha" you think it is

>> No.71675228

>>71675054
I'll take this as an admission that you really do hate hololive. It's not possible to like hololive without being retarded according to you.

>> No.71675345

>>71675054
>This is something that makes sense in the context of Hololive members due to how Hololive operates as a business. It is not something that makes sense for a Vshojo member
Did you really compeltely forget to factor in who it is you're talking about? What makes you think for a second that Mikeneko would conform to how a prospective VShojo member is "supposed" to rationally behave?

>> No.71675739

>>71650301
We saw how BPD girls fare in court with Amber Heard.

>> No.71675752

>>71674957
You sound more unhinged than the corns
>apologia
Depends on whether saying the mentally ill woman had a mentally ill episode is actual apologia, doesn't it? Most of the people on the JP side who had been pushing that angle ended up leaving her shortly afterwards after she made it very clear that she was getting sick of people shitting on her Unicorn fans.
In the end, it was all pointless in the longrun, but people who held your opinions ended up being proven wrong at that time, although I doubt you'd know it since most of that stuff was on Mike and not on Nazuna.

>> No.71675820

>>71675752 (Me)
>Most of the people on the JP side who had been pushing that angle
God I have made a mess of this
By which I mean, the people on the JP side who were pushing the same argument as you (it was planned/controlled and not a mentally ill stream)

>> No.71675829

>>71653661
On a host club?

>> No.71676050

>>71675228
Incorrect.
>>71675345
It's not about "conforming to Vshojo standards", it's just simple logic. In Vshojo all the members are essentially equivalent to their "roommate". Kayfabe is a choice and they are permitted to blatantly shill their other accounts.

>> No.71676234

>>71675752
She's only sick of people shitting on them because they have high chances of leaving which leaves her with less money per stream.

>> No.71676397

>>71676234
Even going off of that logic, the idea that the Saito-san part was an intentional "diss" towards Unicorns doesn't pan out at all, then.

>> No.71676524

>>71676050
How am I incorrect?
>I just stated a fact that the fanbase is unintelligent.
According to you only unintelligent retards can enjoy hololive. This is a barely indirect insult at the people in hololive. You believe that hololive is trash and anyone that likes hololive is stupid.

>> No.71676600

>leaves vshojo
>instantly caught in a endless yabslide

Maybe they did more tardwrangling than I expected.

>> No.71676885

>>71676600
This really is a bohemian yabsody...

>> No.71677282

>>71676524
I honestly can't tell if you're deliberately being obtuse or if you genuinely can't distinguish between a thing and the fans of that thing. They are different and have different attributes.

>> No.71677309

>>71676600
I didn't realise VShojo had time travel powers to go back to 2021
Also, just as a notice here: do you know that one dramafag on the Western side who said that he had exclusive info that confirmed the marriage even before Kore2 did his stream on it? Where do you think he got that info from?

>> No.71677375

>>71677309
>Where do you think he got that info from?
his discord

>> No.71677630

>>71677375
He said he had an exclusive source that confirmed it, even at the point that Mafu was only calling her Girl A.

>> No.71677747

>>71677282
Your little "fact" here was was in order to enjoy thing one must be retarded. That's implying that the thing is so bad that only retarded people like it.
Stop playing dumb. Why are you so afraid of admitting that you hate hololive? It's because you don't want to set yourself up for another instance of someone who you previously shit on joining vwhorejo, isn't it? Don't worry, it's not going to happen.

>> No.71677770

>>71674537
wow. those two really were perfect for each other weren't they?

>> No.71677787

>>71677630
people who report news get a lot of tips that's how journalism works

>> No.71677884

>>71677309
be honest, are you a fan of mike?

>> No.71677929

>>71677787
Who would be in a position qualified to comment on a non public issue that would require doxx info to confirm or deny?

>> No.71677979

the fuck other than nijisanji threads the only other thread thats been active for a day is this pink slut.

>> No.71678074

>>71677884
Why would I be a fan of a lying bitch who betrayed her fans on multiple occasions?

>> No.71678164

>>71677929
anybody who knows mike or mfmf personally. anyone who has worked with either of them in the past year or so. random japanese guys who have come across official documents certifying the marriage.

>> No.71678207

>>71650574
The court should issue her a fine for such retarded requests

>> No.71678221

>>71673425
Don't bother arguing with them. This site is a cesspool of actual uneducated schizos. The only time they'll finally realize is when they are alone on their deathbed.

>> No.71678311

>>71674537
Holy kek

>> No.71678349

>>71678164
>random japanese guys
See, that's the thing. If the source was Japanese, Kore2 or Narukami would have 100% been the first person to go to. Why would Japanese people go for an English dramatubers?
On a hunch, that rules out anyone from the JP side being the source of the leak. If Kore2 had known about it before Mafu came to him to spill his shit, he certainly wasn't interested in leaking it. But then that begs the question as to why the purple faggot would think it was safe to leak?
>anyone who has worked with either of them in the past year or so.
Now you're getting closer.

>> No.71678457

>>71677747
Let me use some other examples because Hololive clearly carries so much emotional baggage for you that you can't think logically.

How about Undertale? Great game that I enjoy very much, especially the music. Undertale fans? Annoying. I don't like them. You probably don't either.

Game of Thrones. The ending of the show was very bad. I didn't like it. I have, however, enjoyed the fan community that formed around complaining about how terrible it was. They made some funny memes.

I hope these examples help you to understand how one can have different opinions about different things.

>> No.71678488

>>71676885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsrSi5brEwo

>> No.71678507

>>71678457
Hololive members are so bad at what they do that only retarded people think they're good.
This is what you believe.

>> No.71678563

>>71678507
I hope that when you grow up you get smarter.

>> No.71678669

>>71678563
You implied that merely being a hololive watcher is bad right here >>71667766
>You can tell this is written by a holo watcher.
Don't try to backpedal now. This isn't even about fans. This is just about watching hololive.

>> No.71678737

>>71677979
It was Holofes.
Mikecuck bunker will raid this place during Holofes.
They will not let anyone hurt the non-existent honor of Miguel.

>> No.71678805

>>71678737
Most of this thread is an autistic argument between two guys about who is a bigger cuck/faggot or not.
I really wish they didn't get rid of IDs

>> No.71678889

>>71654046
vshojo doesn't tardwrangle, example being silvervale. they just let their chuubas do whatever they want even if it's detrimental to them (though they do sometimes advise on whether something is a good or bad idea)
t.vshojofag

>> No.71678893

>>71678805
But there were never IDs on this board.

>> No.71678936

>>71678349
>If the source was Japanese, Kore2 or Narukami would have 100% been the first person to go to.
who's to say they didn't? false sat on that info for more than a year and didn't make it public until one of the affected parties did.
>Why would Japanese people go for an English dramatubers?
he has known japanese sources and some bilingual people in his community.
>why the purple faggot would think it was safe to leak?
it was immediately speculated by basically every single person alive that he was talking about mike. false technically may have been the first to confirm it but everyone already knew when he made his video, you could find out by just opening jp twitter.

>> No.71678949

>>71678737
The bunker hasn't been a bunker for about 6 months now? Most people left or hate mikeneko now lol

>> No.71679071

>>71678669
Come back to this thread later when you've calmed down. You're arguing about emotions now.

>> No.71679140

>>71674790
Imagine having a meltdown because people are making fun of you online. Also wasnt there an uncensored version?

>> No.71679444

>>71678805
Meds.
I was here since Taiwan, and I have never saw anyone said this board ever have flags or ID.

>> No.71679467

>>71679071
You said that anyone that watches hololive is retarded. Can you stop shitting on the work of the hololive members? Of course you can't.

>> No.71679527

>>71679467
No I didn't. You are incorrectly arguing that I implied that.

>> No.71679628

>>71679527
You said that hololive watchers are retarded.

>> No.71679753

>>71679628
And I am continuing to be proven correct by your inability to differentiate between Hololive and its fans.

>> No.71679834

>>71678893
>>71679444
I meant the ID count on the bottom right, which usually proves when a thread is being samefagged

>> No.71679923

Dear Mikecuck and dear Holofag, slit your wrists, both of you

>> No.71679931

>>71679753
Again, your claim was that anyone that likes hololive is retarded which means you believe hololive to be so bad that only a retard could like it

>> No.71679952

>>71678936
I'm aware of the speculations.
>sat on the info for more than a year
This only adds more credence to it being someone particularly close to Mikeneko which, let's be 100% frank here, narrows it down quite a lot.

>> No.71680075

>>71679952
>This only adds more credence to it being someone particularly close to Mikeneko which, let's be 100% frank here, narrows it down quite a lot.
not really. someone close may have told someone else who may have told someone else etc. who eventually told false.

>> No.71680148

>>71679931
I'm going to link a previous post I made that will alleviate your confusion, please read it this time.
>>71678457

>> No.71680227

>>71676600
Wasn't she still suing people while in vshojo and streaming way more as mikeneko?

>> No.71680245
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>>71679140
All the uncensored version are deleted from NicoNico.
And all the Miguel cat meme tweet that I saved also got deleted from twitter.
The uncensored version really become illegal cat meme in Japan.

>> No.71680247

>>71680148
You said hololive watcher, not hololive fan.

>> No.71680275

>>71680075
I'm saying that the list of potential leaks is not big, and that's potential leaks who could provide receipts.

>> No.71680350

>>71679923
Sis, it's your turn first

>> No.71680413

>>71679834
That was the IP count you idiot

>> No.71680557

Is there any fan base worse than Mikecucks in regards to simping for horrible women?

>> No.71680689

>>71680247
It's a synonym in that context. And it doesn't matter because the people who consume content are different from the content.

>> No.71680803

https://twitter.com/q0wwjQBIRhULqHO/status/1768668573902455219

>> No.71680805

I sometimes forget how extremely persistently autistic Marineschizo is
More animal than man

>> No.71680809

>>71680689
It does matter because you're implying that the content is made for retards. That's how lowly you think of the people at hololive. You think they can't do good content.

>> No.71680816

>>71680245
>All the uncensored version are deleted from NicoNico.
https://www.nicovideo.jp/user/132397438

>> No.71680960

>>71680809
No I am outright stating that the people who consume the content are retards. That does not imply anything about the content itself. Good products can be consumed by bad people. Read my previous comment with the examples again.

>> No.71680974

>>71680816
This is actually worst than /b/omu pic

>> No.71680988

All the people in this thread should sign up to join a 5 cent army. At least get paid for all this.

>> No.71680994

>>71670239
There's a good reason your mom hates you, schizo

>> No.71681071

>>71680275
receipts in this case would be japanese legal documents which would make random japanese guys more likely

>> No.71681074

>>71680805
qrd on MarineSchizo?

>> No.71681127

>>71680960
>That does not imply anything about the content itself.
It literally does. Your statement implies that it's only consumer by retards. According to your statements hololive is only consumed by retards.
Reminder that you got mad at me for saying that I watch hololive and immediately accused me of something I had not done. You hate hololive and if someone watches hololive you hate them.

>> No.71681167

>>71681074
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/image/bAIZwYtbKODUsMH6GVUX_g/

>> No.71681286

>>71681074
This is the giveaway
>>71681127
>You hate hololive and if someone watches hololive you hate them.
>>68821862
>>68528728
>>66234012
just some quick examples because this fuck shitting up two boards still manages to stick out like a sore thumb

>> No.71681299

>>71681074
Sankisei anti, has been shitting on Holos for 3 or 4 years at least. Will usually falseflag as a Holofan to do it
The guy in this thread who is pretending to get mad at the other person who mocked Hololive tribalists is Marineschizo

>> No.71681433

>>71681071
Just fyi, you know her name on legal docs isn't Mikeneko, right? The chances of the source being a random person and not someone she might have actually worked with is low
Before you try to claim "we know her real name", we actually don't. That name people think is her "real" name is just a stage name since that was the one she was going to become a seiyuu under prior to becoming a Vtuber
In most cases, seiyuu pick a stage name that's almost identical to their real name, but they'll write it with different kanji. Same sounds, different reading sort of thing. And she's basically confirmed that the name people know is in fact a stage name.

>> No.71681509

>>71681286
Why are you crying about Marineschizo? He attacks those retarded hololive fans you hate so much, just like you!

>> No.71681650

>>71680960
>the people who consume the content are retards
>That does not imply anything about the content itself
Are you fucking retarded?

>> No.71681745

>>71680974
How and why haven't seen the link

>> No.71681859

>>71681509
buy a fucking ad. sick of you shitting up /hlg/ and more than a handful of generals here.

>> No.71681897

>>71681509
Why are you referring to yourself in the third person?

>> No.71681965

>>71681433
i have seen some of mike's paypigs on this board imply that they know her real name. mfmf is probably the same as he has some obsessed fans.

>> No.71682078

>>71681897
You've been arguing for almost 4 hours that all hololive fans are retarded and now you're trying to turn around and claim that you were actually the hololive fan's greatest ally all along. Do you really think this is going to work?
Anyone that watches hololive is a retard.

>> No.71682137

>>71681433
>she's basically confirmed that the name people know is in fact a stage name
This is on the level of "she's confirmed that she's not in a relationship with anyone".

>> No.71682387

>>71681127
It only implies that if you are mentally deficient. If I thought Hololive content was bad, I would say it's bad. I have not said that. I only said that Hololive fans are bad.
>>71682078
You're replying to someone else.

>> No.71682456

>>71682387
Saying that something is only consumed by retards is saying that it's bad. Why are you trying to hard to pretend that you don't hate hololive?
You're just trolling now.

>> No.71682510

>>71674468
>if the majority of women were psychos with feelings offspring wouldn't get taken care of, social connections could not happen, just a bunch of stuff that hold communities together
NTA but that's wrong. The behaviors you listed are not proof of empathy, in fact they can even be observed in very basic animals like ants that don't have the required brain power to be capable of it. Things like forming communities and taking care of the young are basic instincts similar to looking for food or wanting to survive. The ability to put yourself in another entity's position, i.e. empathy, is orders of magnitude more cognitively demanding.

>> No.71682551

>>71682456
I never said "only". And that is incorrect. Refer to my previous example about Undertale. You don't seem to have read it yet so please read it this time.

>> No.71682572

>>71681745
Actual child armpit and thigh video.
No nudity yeah, but pretty sure the twitter mobs had reported many video that is more innocent than that.

>> No.71682670

>>71650301
>>71650574
She unironically will become a ward of the state within a few years at this rate.

>> No.71682749

>>71652893
You know why.

>> No.71682760

>>71682551
>I never said "only".
Yes you did
>the people who consume the content are retards
Despite the word "only" not being present, you're saying "hololive viewer=retard" which means that only retards watch hololive.
>Refer to my previous example about Undertale.
Your example about Undertale wasn't "the people who play Undertale are retards".
Why do vshojo fans hate hololive so much?

>> No.71682810

>>71682078
I'm not the guy you've been arguing with all thread, boy

>> No.71682893
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71682893

>>71665885
Is she actually bipolar, or just borderline personality disorder? Perhaps both, but from my view she always seemed more borderline/histrionic

>> No.71682923

>>71682760
>Yes you did
>the word "only" not being present
I see.
>Your example about Undertale wasn't "the people who play Undertale are retards".
Correct. Your statement is also true though. And I still like Undertale. Google "generalization".

>> No.71682946

>>71682137
No, it's on the level of "knowing how the seiyuu industry works".
Do you think seiyuu actually dox themselves with their stage names? I'm not saying some aren't known, but it's the most obvious thing to at least swap out the kanji so your relatives don't get sent death threats

>> No.71683011

>>71680227
She wanted to sue 4chan anons but Vshojo likely told her it's not a good idea since nothing happened.

>> No.71683017

>>71682893
Bipolar. Clinical diagnosis

>> No.71683116

>>71683017
good to know, thanks anon. I started avoiding her fairly early on, so didn't get the background

>> No.71683206

Why is everyone except for Mike fans and Mafu fans arguing with each other in this thread?

>> No.71683222

>>71682923
>Your statement is also true though.
Then you're a retard, retard. Undertale is for retards according to yourself.
>And I still like Undertale.
Because you're a retard.

>> No.71683287

>>71682510
Your post is wasted on that anon.

>> No.71683388

>>71683206
Mike fans don't come here and are in short supply in the West while Mafu's fans are mostly Japanese teenaged women who can't speak English

>> No.71683390

>>71683222
You forgot to Google.

>> No.71683598

>>71650574
that judge is a Delutaya fan

>> No.71683646

hopefully she wins her case against mafu and recovers from this drama. i will always be on mikeneko's side until my death bed.

>> No.71683746

>>71683390
Not an argument. Your little "generalization" about hololive being content for retards is still you expressing disdain towards hololive. You believe that it's bad content. You won't even dare to say you like hololive.
>inb4 "I-I totally like Mel/Coco/whoever else is friends with a vshojo member"

>> No.71683760

>>71683646
Sure you will slowpoke, sure you will.

>> No.71683891

>>71683746
I generalized Hololive's fanbase, not Hololive's content. You're too emotional and defensive to understand that they are different things. You are in that group of fans and have made Hololive your whole identity so you conflate the two.

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>>71674468
>a woman with no empathy would be a psychopath
Indeed, you are correct. Psychopaths learn to emulate/manipulate empathy to suit their purposes, but don't possess it. In women, this is most often borderline or histrionic personality disorder, but there are narcissistic personality disorder women (and a lot of men).
Plenty of them exist. my mother for one

>> No.71684159

>>71683891
You generalized both.
>the people who consume the content are retards
The implication here is that consuming the content is something a retard would do. In other words, it's content for retards.
It's becoming increasingly obvious that you really do hate hololive but you don't dare to say it because you're a tribalistic ape who will totally love that content for retards the moment it doesn't have le evil blue dorito on it.

>> No.71684263

>>71684159
I didn't say anything about the content.

>> No.71684452

>>71674609
Your statement also don't make any sense. Nazuna and Mikeneko are not the same IP even if she owns them both. VShojo is not a charity and does take a cut from Nazuna. So it is more beneficial for her to funnel fans to her Mikeneko persona where she can reap all the benefits without Vshojo.

Whether or not that worked out is another matter, but your argument doesn't disprove the theory of her intending to funnel to Mikeneko.

>> No.71684473

>>71684263
You said it's consumed by retards. That's a comment about the content, not the consumers. It's attacking the content by associating it with mental retardation.

>> No.71684479

>>71683926
Psychopathy is an actual condition retard, it's not a blanket term to cover every malignant personality disorder.

Psychopaths lack a lot more emotions than just empathy, they're pretty much completely fucking broken and soulless, but sometimes harmless.

>> No.71684513

>>71683646
I hope she wins, not because I want her to win, but because I want the drama fans to get humbled/delegitimize.

>> No.71684568

>>71684479
>Psychopathy is an actual condition retard
no it's not you fucking imbecile

>> No.71684653

>>71683926
The quote you have in the image also applies to Mafumafu.

>> No.71684735

>>71684653
And?

>> No.71684744

>>71684479
there is no diagnosis called "psychopathy" it's just a description of a set of behaviors

>> No.71684848

>>71684452
>VShojo is not a charity and does take a cut from Nazuna.
From her Vshojo merch sales only. She can make her own merch if she is against that idea, and she hasn't done it. That alone proves she's more than happy to keep the two personas separate and benefit from different (if mostly overlapping) fanbases.
>>71684473
You're confusing your emotional response to what I said with what the words that I said actually mean.

>> No.71684988

>>71684848
What emotional response? That's literally what you said
>the people who consume the content are retards
This is commentary on the quality of the content.
People who watch vshojo hate vtubers.

>> No.71685060

>>71684735
I'll just have to save it for when another Mafumafu fans tries to act like he's an innocent angel.

>> No.71685079

>>71684988
Wrong. Also I don't watch Vshojo by the way. I've been ignoring your jabs here and there but they're in every post now so let's get that out of the way.

>> No.71685154

>>71685060
People using his words against your "wife" are not his fans. There are no mafumafu fans here.

>> No.71685231

>>71685079
I'm correct. You said that hololive is for retards.
>Also I don't watch Vshojo by the way.
Sure you don't. You just happened to have watched a Nazuna stream while not being her fan.

>> No.71685321

>>71684479
I think you're referring to what is now known as antisocial personality disorder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

>> No.71685353

>>71685231
>I'm correct. You said that hololive is for retards.
Nope. I said retards watch Hololive.
>You just happened to have watched a Nazuna stream while not being her fan.
That is correct. I watch Japanese vtubers and happened to catch that stream. Vshojo content generally doesn't interest me as they are primarily an English org.

>> No.71685371

>>71684653
Oh absolutely. They were made for each other.

>> No.71685380

>>71684568
Wiki reading retard.
>>71684744
The exclusion of psychopathy in the DSM-5 was completely fucking arbitrary because literally one man called Lee Robins argued that empathy is inherently subjective and therefore we can't use its lack of it for any diagnosis, therefore it was just lumped into that shitheap known as antisocial personality disorder.

>> No.71685435

>>71685380
Agreed, ASD and the DSM in general are a shitshow, much like many other aspects of modern psychiatric diagnosis.

>> No.71685502

>>71685435 (me)
er, APD. although autism spectrum disorder diagnostics are also a shitshow with how they lumped in aspergers

>> No.71685523

>>71684848
https://mikenekoko.booth.pm/

>> No.71685549

>>71685353
You said that the people who watch hololive are retards. That's not the same as saying retards watch hololive.
It's also hilarious how you've backpedaled from your retarded undertale fan argument to accepting that you weren't talking about fans but people who simply consume the content.

>> No.71685577

>>71685380
>t. retard university graduate

>> No.71685622

>>71685154
There are barely any fans of either here. Don't assume I'm one either.

>> No.71685772

>>71683287
I can counter his argument, i talked about the importance of social connections, thats unique human behavior. To he honest i would counter his post as he seems to have misunderstood me, but im playing ig ff7 for the first time and im too lazy right now to write a whole post about it.

>> No.71685783

>>71685622
>There are barely any fans of either here.
But there are some as opposed to literally zero mafumafu fans.
This obsession with hitting back at mafu anytime anyone says anything about mike suggests that you would be her fan.

>> No.71685869

>>71685523
I meant Nazuna can make her own Nazuna merch. All her merch was done through Vshojo. It would make more sense for her to do that than attempt to "funnel" viewers to her other persona. From a logical standpoint you more likely make more money from having merch for multiple characters with different designs than trying to get fans of the one character to pay for a different design.
>>71685549
You're writing fanfiction about reality now. I didn't backpedal from anything. I stand by my Undertale example. I enjoy it and the fanbase is bad.

>> No.71686034

>>71685869
>I didn't backpedal from anything.
You did. You used obnoxious Undertale fans as an example of the thing that you dislike but when it comes to hololive it's just "watchers" which is anyone that watches hololive in any capacity.
Your undertale example is completely irrelevant to this example. You are not talking about "the hololive fanbase" but anyone that watches hololive.
>the people who consume the content are retards
The people who watch hololive content are retards

>> No.71686214

>>71686034
I am talking about the Hololive fanbase but you can't understand a hyperbolic generalization because you are severely autistic.

>> No.71686257

>>71685783
But why are these non-Mafu fans going after Mike. It's because they are drama fans. I want to gatekeep the drama fans from this hobby in the ways I can.

>> No.71686312

>>71685869
That doesn't prove anything. If her intention was to funnel back to her Mikeneko persona, of course she won't make any merch for Nazuna Your argument is actually a better support that her intention is not to focus on Nazuna, but Mikeneko. Since it's clear she is more passive in trying to benefit from that IP.

>> No.71686357

>>71686257
only mafu fans have any reason to shit on mike? Lol she dragged her bullshit through both hololive and vshojo and burned thousands of people, she deserves all of the ridicule for making her menhera bullshit a public nuisance

>> No.71686402

>>71686312
If her intention was to have all of her viewers watch Mike then Nazuna would not exist. She would have just joined Vshojo as Mike alongside Kson. She made a deliberate choice to separate them.

>> No.71686737

>>71686257
>But why are these non-Mafu fans going after Mike. It's because they are drama fans.
What a retard.
Miguel hatred is actually justified, unlike most of hate for the other Holo.
Even before multiple non stop yabs, many people already dislike her.
And after that, she's just lolcow but Japanese.

>> No.71686855

>>71686402
nah, she want to leech from Ayame fanbase by having Kagura Nana model.

>> No.71686980

>>71686855
If that were true she could have had Nana design Mike's model. And she probably wouldn't have ditched Nana for her second outfit.

>> No.71687057

>>71686214
You are talking about hololive viewers
>the people who consume the content are retards
This is what you said.
>muh hyperbolic generalization
You said you "just stated a fact" but now it's suddenly hyperbole.

>> No.71687123

>>71687057
>You are talking about hololive viewers
Finally you understand.

>> No.71687274

>>71650301
What fans? Haven't all her whales finally fucked off after finding out they got hard cucked?

>> No.71687346

>>71686257
I'm "going after Mike" because her dumbfuck fans have plagued hololive discussions for years.
You were not allowed to say that she disliked anyone in hololive. You weren't allowed to say that she wasn't actually friends with anyone there. You were supposed to believe that she totally loved her fans from her holo debut to the current day and you were not allowed to point out that the way her fans advertised as the be all end all of GFE vtubers crumbled every single time her fans had a very visible public meltdown about her talking to yet another guy.

>> No.71687506

>>71686980
She can't.
Nana hate her and didn't want to continue working on Nazuna after she know the model is for her.

>> No.71687588

>>71687123
Viewers are not fans. Anyone that watches hololive in any capacity is a viewer therefore when you say
>the people who consume the content are retards
you're claiming that to watch hololive one must be retarded. You don't get to use the hyperbole cope again as we just established that you claimed that your statement was a fact.

>> No.71687740

>>71686402
She probably felt that she need an alt to distance herself from previous yabs. Once she hook someone in and establish more loyalty it would be easier to funnel them back.

>> No.71687939

>>71687588
Hololive fans view Hololive content. Streams, videos, etc.

>> No.71688004

>>71687506
Did you hear that in a dream

>> No.71688097

>>71687939
So you're not claiming that all hololive viewers are hololive fans? You're also admantly claiming that you definitely do not hate hololive and that the content isn't bad which makes you a hololive fan aka a retard.

>> No.71688174

>>71688004
Show me their last interaction

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>>71686257
Tywin Lannister was right about whores.

>> No.71688472

>>71688097
>So you're not claiming that all hololive viewers are hololive fans?
Correct. I said "watchers". You may view a few seconds of Hololive content, but you wouldn't then say you "watch" Hololive. Regularly watching is what fans do.
>>71688174
Shouldn't you already know their last interaction if you're claiming that Nana dumped her? Are you trying to pass off speculation without evidence as fact?

>> No.71688639

>>71688472
Watchers are not the same thing as fans. So you really do believe that watching hololive is a bad thing. Glad you finally admitted that.
Now tell me what's good content so I can shit all over it.

>> No.71688789

>>71688639
>Glad you finally admitted that.
I did not.
>Now tell me what's good content
Hololive is great but you have to deal with one of the worst fanbases in all of vtubing.

>> No.71688799

>>71687346
I haven't personally seen that that much, but I've seen fans of other vtubers treat their vtuber as better then everyone else. So what you said made sense to me.

>> No.71688934

>>71688789
>I did not.
Yeah you did. You just outlined that the thing that makes someone bad is watching hololive.
>Hololive is great
You don't actually believe that. Name the JP vtubers you watch.

>> No.71688959

>>71688934
Haachama

>> No.71689070

>>71688959
>a vshojo adjacent
I fucking knew it. It's time to stop pretending that you don't watch vshojo.

>> No.71689170

>>71689070
I don't think talking to Ironmouse for an hour 3 years ago makes her a Vshojo member personally.

>> No.71689289

>>71689170
That's the only reason you named her. You can't name any JP vtuber that you actually watch because you watch none. You're just stalling your retarded argument for 6 hours because you think you're some kind of master troll despite getting read from your very first post in the thread.

>> No.71689396

>>71650301
Against her boyfriend too...

>> No.71689427

>>71688472
Yeah, there are no more interaction shortly after Nazuna debut.
Nana refuse to work with her anymore.
While she still interact with her other vtuber child.

>> No.71689502

>>71650574
>rushia is 33
hot...

>> No.71689530

>>71650301
Just let her end up homeless and dead. There's no fixing this nut job.

>> No.71689549

>>71689502
More like 34 or 35 at the end of this year

>> No.71689558

>>71650574
Jesus
Are there punishments in Japan for frivolous lawsuits? If she has gone through 8 lawyers over this nonsense that would have to apply right?

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>>71689549

>> No.71689968

>>71689549
Her birthday is in January though? She's 35 now.

>> No.71690405

>>71689968
Sorry, I don't care enough to know her b'day.
Just want to point out that she's not 33 anymore.

>> No.71691000

>>71673336
No benefit? Do you not know how they love to be mixed white in Japan? Also, have you seen her face pre-surgery?

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