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71544215 No.71544215 [Reply] [Original]

Do you think Petra 3D can stall future sellers to save Monday ? Or sellers will sell no matter what ?

>> No.71544328

If they were smart they would look at earnings (EN market being dead) and not botted CCV by brownfeet and sell, but then again if they were smart in the first place they wouldn't have invested in such a barebones company that was self admitted by the CEO as a complete grift.

>> No.71544482

>>71544215
Investors care about quarterly reports, not 3D debuts.

>> No.71544522

>>71544215
Do you think spending your time thinking about random gamblers' decisions is a worthwhile thing to do? Just enjoy Niji being incompetent and their number going down if it does.

>> No.71544533

it's over

>> No.71544554

>>71544215
lol lmao even

>> No.71544568
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71544568

>sell no superchat

>> No.71544638

>>71544215
>Lowest CCV for a 3D stream that Niji ever got
No, I don't think so

>> No.71544804

<$5K usd in superchats isn't going to sway investors. 25K viewers and mostly Japanese isn't going to change their minds either. Not when 2 clicks away they can see a packed concert hall with a shit load of gaijins and a chat full of EOP's. She could've quadrupled her numbers and it still wouldn't be enough.

>> No.71544900
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>>71544568
she did get supas, but i don't know why it isn't showing up there.

15/16 since it's using my local time. still seems low tho even added up ($3711)

>> No.71545767

No. I'm happy that Petra didn't get mogged. She did okay, 25k ccv and close to 4k in Supas. She did better than people expected her to do but the issue is she needed to break records for investors to see a future for EN. She needed >100k CCV and a large treasury of Supas for these guys to think about investing in Niji again, impossible measures. The other issue is most of the supas were in Yen rather than USD, another red flag for EN. Selling will continue on Monday.

>> No.71545837

>>71544215
No amount of penguin twerking is saving this yacht

>> No.71545916

>>71545767
>She did okay, 25k ccv
She barely win against an advent karaoke.

>> No.71545991

a single stream with mediocre CCV for a niji 3D debut won't convince them that -40.3% YoY isn't going to happen again in Q4

>> No.71546026

>>71545767
>finana 32k 3D debut
>Petra 24k 3D debut after a long year wait
>she did okay

confused 100

>> No.71546056

>>71544215
If investor see only ccv not income aka sc, they money need to get burn...

>> No.71546136

>>71545916
Well at one point i was thinking she might be the 1st 2-3 Finana corpo 3d reveal stream.

>> No.71546173

>>71546026
I was expecting sub 10k after the fantastic months NijiEN has had. 25k is pretty good to me.
If we didn't have the recent megayabs, this would 25k would be terrible.

>> No.71546186

>>71544215
it made less money than a homostar

>> No.71546213

>>71546026
only losing 8k after the company has been completely and utterly destroyed (according to /vt/) isn't that bad, especially considering the shitty time it was on at

>> No.71546264

>>71546213
cope harder faggot

>> No.71546268

I really wonder how rosemi's 3d will go

>> No.71546750

>>71546268
Probably the same, if only because NijiEN's current fanbase doesn't really care for cute girls and only males. JP will do the heavy lifting as per usual. Could be better because they aren't doing something stupid and having it air around the same time as the free show for HoloFES.

>> No.71546759

>>71546268
Petra's 3d was supposedly propped up by a lot of JP's - see the superchats and chat. And she panders to the JP side despite being EN. Rosemi is GENERALLY more popular including /here/ but is EN only and the sisters suck at supporting the female talents. She won't have Holofes to compete with but the next 3days of trading on the TSE could be a massive problem for Anycolor. I also keep thinking about how lackluster the turnout for Enna's bday was. And bdays are the next best thing in terms of superchats and ccv typically for talents after 3d lives. It's going to be either decent or terrible

>> No.71546838
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71546838

>Earned $3700 (majority in Yen)
>Susan will take 30%
>$2590 remains
>Riku's yacht maintenance costs 50% of her hard work, leaving $1295
>Taxes
I just hope her travel fees are covered

>> No.71546841

>>71546268
It's going to go magnitudes worse than the penguin's if ennakek doesn't bot her

>> No.71546899

>>71544215
NEGLIGIBLE

>> No.71547145

>>71544215
It will have 0 effect. Investors are not looking into how good or bad an individual organ's performance is.

>> No.71547208

>>71544900
NTA, but she did get 564,425 JPY for her 3D stream (https://hololyzer.net/2j3j/archive/superchat/y_YO0LLXYr4.html).). It's just that Playboard misses SC now and then, that's why /#/fags use Hololyzer instead.
500k+ JPY is pretty decent for someone who was basically the runt of original NijiEN. It's a bit concerning that large majority of her SC were in yen or TWD, though (which showed that EN audiences didn't care much about her anymore)

>> No.71547212
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>>71546213
>only losing 8k after the company has been completely and utterly destroyed (according to /vt/) isn't that bad, especially considering the shitty time it was on at
considering 90% of her audience were japs from nijijp and her most superchatted currency was yen I actually think its grim
rosemi doesnt have the same mindshare as her in nijijp which is honestly pretty grim for her debut
hopefully enough people still believe that she wasnt part of the bully group and help her salvage her numbers

>> No.71547272

>>71544215
you really think some stock trader will look at some vtuber stream and say
>oh! 80 finanas!! HOLD HOLD HOLD

>> No.71547306

>>71546838
>petra
>travel fees
She lives in Japan. She's lived in Japan for like a year. Her travel fees are the train ticket.
That being said, it being primarily JP viewers doesn't really make things better. The best argument is that if/when EN gets merged she'll be the Nari of EN.

>> No.71547402

>>71545767
Even if the 3d debut happened in vacuum or in a time prior to the controversies, I don't think Petra could have managed more than 30-40k ccv

>> No.71547682

>>71544215
If stock wasn't capped at -700, there would've been a chance for some recovery on monday. But, due to the cap, expect another massive drop instead, as it races to it's actual value.

>> No.71547745

>>71547212
>nijiEN
>Entire audience is JP

>> No.71547947

>>71546026
>finana 32k 3D
That's about 110 regular Finanas. Should we introduce a Finana-3D measurement unit for big numbers?

>> No.71548018

>>71547682
If the stock wasn't capped at -700 in the first five minutes of the market opening, you mean?

>> No.71548047

>>71547947
No, we don't need another competing ISO standard. Finana is 300CCV: nice and simple.
3D debuts are abnormalities and shouldn't be used as a measuring standard.

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>>71547947
Larger numbers were already accounted for.

>> No.71548339

>>71548166
I assume 1 CCV will be 4mF (actually 1.2CCV but round it down to 1CCV as you can't have 0.2CCV)

>> No.71548345

Pretty sure, people predicted Petra's 3d debut to have around 25k ccv a year ago after Pomu3d. I don't know why everyone acting so surprised.

>> No.71548358

>>71548166
I think 1 kiloFinana is too much and there is nothing between it and the regular Finana.

>> No.71548539

>>71548358
1 decaFinana (daF) = 10 Finanas
1 hectoFinana (hF) = 100 Finanas

The math nerds have all the prefixes you need.

>> No.71548595

>>71548539
metric really is beautiful

>> No.71548663

>>71548339
>>71548539
So F is now an official symbol of Finana?

>> No.71548734

>>71548663
Imo fin makes more sense

>> No.71548935
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>>71547947
>>71548047
>>71548166
>>71548339
>>71548358
>>71548539
>The joke ccv measurement system has more effort put into than Finana's actual content

>> No.71549047

>>71548663
i've seen FLV being used sometimes (Finana Live Views)

>> No.71549064

>>71548345
A year ago nobody would have known it would overlap Holofes. People could see the signs on the wall of incoming shitshows, but not that.

>> No.71549150

>>71548935
kek

>> No.71549186

>>71548663
>>71548734
>>71549047
Dammit, we need to standardise this shit! Summon the Imperial Measure Committee!

>> No.71549294

>>71548663
>>71548734
>>71549047
>>71549186
I agree with the other anon, I think "fin" makes tge most sense.

>> No.71549340

>>71548935
Incorrect, it takes a lot of effort to actually play Honkai Impact 3rd without killing yourself from sheer mediocrity.

>> No.71549423

>>71549294
It seems too long for me and I like the capital letter more, but idk

>> No.71549486

>>71549064
>>41862208
>>/vt/thread/41855927#p41862208

>> No.71549530

>>71549486
>Enna 45k
>Millie 30k
>Vox 100k
>Shu 80k
>Ike 85k
Oof

>> No.71549652

>>71549486
>120k Mysta
I never watched the boys, was Mysta really that popular?
>0 Fulgur
Lmao

>> No.71549872

>>71549652
Mysta was incredibly popular and he hated it, hated collabs and hated nijisanji as a whole. He was more popular than Vox for a while. I remember that he had a breakdown during a collab where he physically hid from everyone else in the game, muted himself from them and then started venting like a retard to chat. Peak Mysta content.

>> No.71549900

>>71549652
I have no idea.
Dare I say, a sister's hand typed that.
But if you check the replies, the top 3 contenders are Vox, Mysta and Shu.
Someone mentions Ike got 60k in an archived karaoke...so idk really

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>> No.71549931

>>71549652
The joke is that Fulgur refuses to do 3D because he's uh... well, it's better off if you don't know.
>mysta
Him Vox and Luca were kind of the biggest EN male vtubers for a long-ass time. Probably still are, I don't watch that many.

>> No.71550094

>>71549486
vox 100k
mysta 120k
luca 110k

HOLY FUCKING KEKW LOLOLOLOLOLOL
LMAO

>> No.71550164

>>71544215
I mean, it was a good ccv compared to indies and smaller corpos. They obviously won't see them as having equal footing against Holo tho.

>> No.71550183

Investors at best only look at this in the abstract through quarterly reports. This won't show up in a report until Q4 - and 25k amounts to a rounding error considering the rest of EN has had no CCV, decreased subs, and a missed holiday. I doubt most investors even know what a 3d refers to. It will do nothing to the stock (positive or negative) next week.

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>>71546759
They probably won't conflict timewise, but in terms of breaking headlines, the JP attention will probably all get siphoned up by Suisei's birthday

>> No.71550617

>>71544328
>botted CCV
There were more people in the auditorium watching First Stage in person than there were human viewers watching Petra. And even if you do include the bots, there's a small chance that there were still more people in attendance at Holofes -- the only limiting factor would be the size of the auditorium, because there's only so much floor space.

And there's only so many people who can be there, while still being able to get everyone out safely in under 2 minutes in the event of a life-and-death emergency, without anyone getting injured in the evacuation.

tldr Petra got mogged by the Tokyo Fire Marshall.

>> No.71550836

>>71544215
Whatever happens on monday will not change depending on how Petra did, investors don't make decisions based on streams but how much money they make, also it's EN so they won't probably even care

>> No.71551241
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>>71547208
I'm honestly surprised at how much she's pivoted.
Surprised mostly because I haven't watched her since 2022. I knew she was good at japanese but I didn't think she'd be pivoting this hard. Good for her if she found her niche

>> No.71551658

>>71547208
What about previous vods earnings? Was she always pandering to JP like Kotoka? Still very sad, their western audience is really disappearing

>> No.71551676

If anything the investors will see that no one from the west cared about Petra's 3D debut. Expect a new bloodbath this monday.

>> No.71551724
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what the actual fuck? not even people dooming niji stock were saying that it will take a nosedive like this lol

>> No.71551811

>>71551658
Dunno when she did, but early on, back when I think luxiem was the last wave, there were a ton of jokes about how shu/petra were going to be traded for Oliver and go to NijiJP, so the joke's been there since at least that long.

>> No.71551908

>>71551724
No one expected that NijiEN would have a Q3 THAT bad.

>> No.71551941

>>71551724
can't wait for when it nosedives again on monday
it might hit another lower limit

>> No.71552082

>>71551724
And it would have gone down further if not for the circuit breaker. Professional stonks guys said that if not for the trade limit, Niji stock would have dropped below 1800.
For the sake of comparison, the trade limit for Monday will be at 1950-ish. So the low they would have reached on Friday will be reached on Tuesday.

>> No.71552314

>>71552082
how fucked is anycolor really? im very illiterate about this sort of thing, but to my monkey brain it looks like a literal catastrophic failure. is nijisanji really on the verge of collapse?

>> No.71552529
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>>71552082
>>71552314
From another anon:
1940 on Monday
1540 on Tuesday
As seen here, Anycolor is considered to be a part of "Prime Market" on the Tokyo Stock Exchange
https://www2.jpx.co.jp/tseHpFront/StockSearch.do?callJorEFlg=1&method=topsearch&topSearchStr=5032
And as seen here, TSX requires "Prime Market" stocks to add up to 10B in total stock value
https://www.jpx.co.jp/english/equities/listing/continue/details/02.html
At 1590 yen per share they will fall below that 10B yen total, which automatically triggers Tokyo Stock Exchange's "Improvement Period" which basically means "you have a year to unfuck yourself or we delist you

>> No.71552670

>>71552529
So in roughly 4 days, Nijisanji has to hit the red alert button?

>> No.71552672

>>71552529
what does delisting actually mean for the company?

>> No.71552842

>>71552672
i don't know, but if it happens to anycolor it's the end for them
if it happens to cover it's all part of the plan though and doesnt matter

>> No.71552873

>>71552529
A year is a lot, but honestly? This is not saving them and the damage is done. The investors will never forget the net loss they just suffered.
When you break trust with even the speculators, you shouldn't expect them to stick around unless you can promise them some major ass money-maker.
Petra wasn't it, Rosemi will not be it, and the April concert is a nothingburger compares to Holofes and Starfes coming in summer.

But let them actually recover. It will be 3 months of pure pain before the Annual meeting will skewer them. Hell is a mercy I bestow upon them for my amusement.

>> No.71552931

>>71552672
Riku has to rebuy ALL actions. All of them, with his own money, and then no more investors.
It's a massive financial kick in the balls and no one will want to work with you. Even Yagoo had to go into the market to keep expanding. People don't toss money at things that don't produce them trough shares earnings.

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>>71548935
>everytime finana searches her name in the archives, its just anons using her hilariously low ccv as a measurement unit
>this is the only time finana ever gets mentioned /here/
isnt this a bit too far?

>> No.71553035

>>71552931
man, even with all the black company shit and actual scum being there i kinda feel bad for people over there holy shit

>> No.71553109

>>71552672
Means that the stocks can't be traded on the stock market anymore, only through over the counter brokers. Involuntary delisting almost always completely destroys the value of the stock and institutional investors (like Sony and the insurance company that are the two largest owners of AnyColor stock after Tazumi) will look to pull out as soon as possible.

>> No.71553190

>>71549652
Real suprise for me, that Mysta faggot was like
Absolute blank state, mediocrity and stupidity

>> No.71553236

>>71553035
Don't feel bad for the people in Nijisanji, because they were never going to see a single dime of this money. It's entirely the executives who care about this shit.

>> No.71553289

>>71553190
women don't care
women don't even watch streams, they just buy the goods like with trendy anime

>> No.71553341

>>71547208
Elira's 3d got around ¥ 850k and Finana's got around ¥ 430k.
So considering everything, are the numbers good for Petra.
It's kind of a good thing that she has a considerable jp fan base.

>> No.71553342

>>71552672
Delisting means that shares can't be bought through the exchange: the buyer and seller have to do the transaction directly. People are less willing to buy these so outside investment largely disappears.
I have heard people mention Riku will have to buy back all the shares, but I'm not aware of this happening unless it's a voluntary delisting or the company literally goes bankrupt.

>> No.71553448

>>71553236
but i would assume that a collapse like that is going to hurt even normal people there? either financially, opportunities(lol) or just the overall backlash and ridicule in the community. am i wrong about this?

>> No.71553471

>>71544215
it has already been sold, Niji is a dead company that is only walking due to the maximum loss protection, Nini will keep hitting that mac loss limit for all of next week, I guarantee it

>> No.71553551

>>71549294
Following the SI convention should be Fin, it would make the most sense. the capital F is important

>> No.71553673

How likely is the delisting scenario? The stock will hit a new rock bottom this monday for sure, but will the trend be long enough for the delisting to actually happen?

>> No.71553736

>>71553551
So it's finana and Fin...makes sense

>> No.71553759

>>71553190
He's actually pretty great at improv and his role as a punching bag in a comedy duo is unmatched. His early streams with vox are some of the funniest shit I've ever seen come out of Nijisanji. I think the fact that he's such a "boyfailure" endeared him to the fujo crowd, and he ended up being NijiEN's biggest (or was it second biggest behind vox? I don't remember) member. But the fujos who loved him apparently infantilized him to the point where he actually went schizo a few times, and as soon as he became Kuro he flat out banned people doing that to him again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgsESCXuD0w
His particular brand of "stupidity" is insanely funny with the right partners.

>> No.71553781

>>71552529
man, even if they somehow get saved from this their stock won't recover enough before the Q4 report

>> No.71553913

>>71553673
If they hit Tuesday's limit then they get a year to improve things. The warning itself might be enough for there to be major changes (Tazumi gone, closing EN, massive restructuring etc.) so it's unlikely I think.

>> No.71554035
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71554035

>the SI unit for CCV will be Fin, ie end in French
It's kilo over.

>> No.71554062

>>71553448
Mostly, yea. Financially they're not hurt because stocks are basically just bonds: the money "does not exist" until you cash it in. 100% of the money invested in stocks is not invested into Anycolors talents, because it's all in stocks. And you and I both know they're not going to split... lets say 10 million from the 1+ billion of their pre-crash stock across their 150+ talents.

PR backlash... well, the stocks falling is a different kind of backlash, but the average person isn't going to think less of Inui Toko because her company was retarded. They might be worried for her but the Japanese are really good at not actually saying what they feel so it wouldn't show up in chat.

The biggest one here is opportunities since no big business' want to collaborate with a failing business, which means there's one less addition to their paycheck for everyone in Nijisanji. Which is certainly a problem and will lead to retirements but that's only because Anycolor decided to spend the money they should have been spending on their talents to play with Funnybux™. If the checks are so discouraging that losing their chance at another NELL collab is enough to make Shiishii want to retire with her boyfriend Yashiro and his entire species that's a problem inherent to Anycolor beyond losing money from stocks.

>> No.71554095

>>71554035
kek, Really can't make this shit up

>> No.71554105

>>71549872
>he hated it, hated collabs and hated nijisanji as a whole
Always remember what the discord leak and cg stream did to his mental health. Yagoo could have saved him, but he seems happier being a fleshtuber

>> No.71554113

>>71553781
If I remember correctly, not that this will save them but they did say that 30-40% of the niji fest earnings will be accounted for in Q4 so maybe they banking on these 3D lives to make them some bank on top of that in order to reach their “highest” quarter yet

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>>71552670

>> No.71554195

>>71553035
Anycolor fucked around and found out

>>71553448
At worst some people will have to look for a new job. It sucks but that's what happens when your boss refuses to do their job. Consider how many warning signs were deliberately ignored or actively suppressed from the public for everything to get this bad.

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>>71553551
>>71554035
Then it's sealed!

>> No.71554272

>>71553913
That in itself is such a black mark on the company. Anycolor has been doing a piss poor job of reassuring investors, they’ve been going “we’ll tell you our plans at the end of Q4!” For half a year.

>> No.71554279

>>71554117
Comrade Tazumi! I will need you to record your commands in the log book.

>> No.71554365

>>71554035
Fin also means End in Spanish.

>> No.71554432

>>71554062
i see

>> No.71554459

>>71554365
>If your CCV reach 1 Fin is over

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>>71552529
JUST TRUST THE PLAN, ARTHUR

>> No.71554630

>>71553190
>>71553289
Men don't even watch faggots' streams, they just gossip about them based on assumptions

>> No.71554632

>>71554459
Given that Finana has already driven away most of her fanbase by this point, it might as well be over for her.

>> No.71554644

>>71554517
riku is a 28yo shitter? that explains a lot

>> No.71554698

>>71554365
>esto es el fin Elira

>> No.71554701

>>71553033
No. If she wants to ego search she can search by date because this happened after several days of constructive criticism. Anything talking about Finana after we started using it as a unit of measurement is just rehashes of old shit she has no intention of fixing so she won't get any new info there anyways. If she wants us to stop using it, she has to make it obsolete for herself, first.
>>71554035
sounds solid to me.

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>>71554279
Raise the share price.

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>>71553289
This

>> No.71555037

>>71544215
investors don't watch 3Ds

>> No.71555567

>>71549931
Isn't fulgur physically a mess because he got crippled or something? Kinda feel bad for his 600 pound ass.

>> No.71556313

>>71555567
He can't sit for long periods of time due to spinal issues, so a flight to Japan is out of the question.

>> No.71557443

>>71544215
Malaysia State TV shitting on anycolor, this stuff can't be good for the stock

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>>71557443
Forgot to post pic

>> No.71557725

>>71546759
>GENERALLY more popular
She has less subs than Petra and probably lost viewers because of how hyped she got before the Tekken tournament and it tuned out she's a scrub.
If her history is anything to go by she might get 1k or 2k more viewers than Petra, but earn less than her.

>> No.71557756

>>71557443
>>71557539
What are they saying about them?

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71558665

>>71554035
Unironically a bad idea. There shouldn't be any abbreviation, just "Finana". That retard egosearches and may miss this one. Also, this dilutes search results for "Finana" in general.

>> No.71558875

>>71558665
>Also, this dilutes search results for "Finana" in general.
Isn't this bad?

>> No.71559065

>>71558875
yes exactly, shortening this means she will see less cases of her name being used as a joke and more cases of anons actually discussing her.

>> No.71559624

>>71559065
Ok, from that point of view you're right.

>> No.71559940
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Trading begins in about 28 hours, and the floor of 1950 will be hit shortly after open. Get your stopwatches ready.

>> No.71560229

>>71558665
This point makes sense, so it should be finana, like the mol which is just mol

>> No.71560335

>>71551724
30% less than the predictions
-40% YoY in nijiEN, the branch they've been bragging about in the slides for quite a while
Basically anyone who joined the IPO is losing money if they didn't sell

>> No.71560617
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>>71544215
We hitting 1.7k on Monday and it will be glorious. ALL OUT TERMINATION OF AN ENTIRE BRANCH IN APRIL. Just imagine the seething and coping on the doxxsister site

>> No.71560764
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>>71558665
>Unironically a bad idea. There shouldn't be any abbreviation, just "Finana".
Good point, I vote for no abreviations because is funnier messing with ego searchs.
Let's start the meeting.

>> No.71560798

>>71560617
They will make this board unusable for weeks.

>> No.71560862

>>71553448
Right now there's probably a ban to stop the Moruru-Luna thing from happening again because of the fan backlash, but with Nijisanji collapsing, livers could apply to hololive and have a chance to be considered

>> No.71560894

>>71554517
>empty promises
>no real plan
>please wait for Fall
>reasons: trust me bro
Overdosing on copium they deserve going bankrupt for not researching the company.

>> No.71561021

>>71560617
For real? The selen thing might have been the literal final yab of NijiEN?

>> No.71561208

>>71560798
This board was usable?

>> No.71561786

>>71561021
Kinda like that one guy who got away with depositing a fraudulent check for a couple hundred bucks (firing and smearing Zaion) and then decided to try again with a fraudulent check for over a billion dollars (firing and trying to smear Selen)

>> No.71561824
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>>71561208
It was once more usable than now but that was last Christmas before we had our last cup of coffee

>> No.71561939

>>71558665
>>71560764
Another vote for no abbreviation.

>> No.71562602
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To think they have yet to deal with the Selen Shock, Q4 meeting will be legendary.

>> No.71564351

>>71558665
Also just saying "2 Finanas" is significantly funnier to say.

>> No.71564501

>>71560764
You have my vote for NO CHANGE. Ruinn her ego searching forever!

>> No.71564634

>>71558665
The ''end'' meaning behind the Finana unit could be conserved.

>> No.71565008

>>71558665
What if we use both together?
>1 Fin ( finana)
for maximum reach and damage

>> No.71565648

>>71565008
Too cumbersome to use both at the same time imo. I'd still allow using Fin in general if someone's too lazy to type.

>> No.71565907

>>71546268
>5 longs days of tradings to drop everything like crazy
Her ccv would be botted as hell since it might be the last chance to save niji face

>> No.71566001

>>71565648
Just having 1 Finana CCV being used as the concept of ''end'' is enough.

>> No.71566632

>>71565648
>>71566001
Fair point, I vote for the 1 Finana naming convention

>> No.71567362

>>71558665
True, but I think a good compromise would be to use "Finana" in full at least once in a post so that it will still show up in egosearches, then abbreviate the rest.

>> No.71570606

>>71544215
No. But people thinking Nijisanji is literally going to die overnight are way overselling it. Whether they recover from this is all up to them but they're by no means 10 seconds away from death.

>> No.71571052

Which Niji EN girls besides Finana masturbate and cum to lewd fanarts of themselves?
There's no doubt she does, but which other girls take the concept of ego searching to its logical conclusion and offered tribute to herself at least twice?

>> No.71571327

>>71570606
I agree that people are overselling it if they're saying it's dying by the end of next week, but Anycolor has essentially been fucking amputated. If they get delisted the company will be turned into a chicken nugget with no limbs, as nearly every single major investor and collaborator will say
>no

>> No.71573577

So when are the markets opening

>> No.71573718

>>71573577
It's the weekend, so 25 hours.

>> No.71575085

>>71567362
This makes sense. It'd save time and make the posts less bloated.

>> No.71575272

>>71573577
24 hours 14 minutes.

>> No.71575573

>>71552842
except cover is nowhere near hitting that limit you retard, and they have much less stocks on the market compared to anycolor.
cover literally told some of its shareholders to fuck off cause they wanted to do the anycolor special. so the few shareholders (big ones at least) they have are the ones that yagoo basically approved.

>> No.71576001

>>71570606
They will just merge EN with some well crafted statement that will make it sound good, and the investors will be "oh so no more cancer, he's cleaning house, back to investing!"
Or sell everything on Monday and good luck to the next owner.
Or try to inflate the market even more for a bit, but the investor trust is gone. Without some major announcement they will not change route except to save their own pocket money.

>> No.71576327

>>71576001
He can't merge EN without investors selling even more
The overseas expansion (EN) is one of the pillars of Anycolor's growth, so them giving up on it is like a shot to their knee
The other pillars are domestic expansion (JP) and generating more content creators (VTA)

>> No.71576491

>>71576327
also saying EN isn't worth it and overseas isn't necessary sounds dumb as shit cause Cover is opening CoverUSA and Holofes this year has tons of overseas fans mingling in the convention
not to mention, holofes is even bigger this year than last year lol

>> No.71576590

>>71554113
No way. Even with 40% of NijiFes accounted for in Q4, remember that 60% was in Q3 already and that quarter also wasn't stellar. They would need ANOTHER whole Fes worth of revenue just to make up numbers and they would still fall short of their goals. Plus they will also have to balance out EN which will look absolutely nightmarish.

>> No.71577065

>>71576491
I assume they will continue catering NijiEN to the South East Asian market with conventions and brand deals like cafes. This will shift the branch into the Male vtuber oriented direction harder but it will survive. All female Livers are fucked.

>> No.71582207

>>71576590
also need to remember in Q4 Japan skirted very close to recession and avoided it by just .04%. So they're fighting against that too. On the domestic market I'd be very surprised if their merch sales do well even if they tack on the 30-40% from Nijifes.
Did they have any big sponsorships other than Google?

>> No.71582451

>>71576001
>"oh so no more cancer, he's cleaning house, back to investing!"
I am not exagerrating when I say investors are the biggest supporters of NijiEN. Even more than the fans and fujos and even the company itself.

>> No.71582896

>>71551724
it's just a random drop, this happens to all stocks at some point and it's going to go up again soon

>> No.71583082

>>71582896
Stop deflating the value of (you)'s just as much as Anycolor is their stock price, dammit!

>> No.71583311

>>71544215
SISTERS HEAR MY CALL YOU SHALL MAX OUT YOUR CREDIT CARDS AND BUY MY ANYCOLOR STOCKS TOMORROW

i mean BUY ANYCOLOR STOCKS TOMORROW,YOU i uh-mean WE THAT'S RIGHT,
WE SHALL SHOW THE WORLD THE POWER OF NIJI FANS

>> No.71583438

>>71544215
No, after the readjustment of viewer numbers on the Live3D, I think its safe to say they are royally fucked.

>> No.71583514

>>71583311
I'm maxing out my card to short the absolute FUCK out of anycolor stock.

>> No.71583607

>>71552672
it means they come a NFTs

>> No.71583665
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>>71544215
>Do you think Petra 3D can stall future sellers to save Monday
No

>> No.71583883
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>>71582896
Are you going to buy the dip?

>> No.71585751
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anon take note from Enna.

>> No.71588441

>>71577065
they can't expand in the NA market anymore, no con wants to invite them anymore, even AI is seguewaying to being a Hololive con instead

>> No.71591113

>>71549186
we can go further. For example, we can assign another to measure CCV in minutes,like speed.
I propose a Millie for this; 1 Millie = 1 finana/minute.
Vox point - the point in finana/time graph which the highest Finana achieve in a stream.
Enna - number of finanas retained from one stream to the next; 1 Enna - 1 finana/stream
Elira - the Euler's constant of Finanas (idk can someone expand in this)

>> No.71591770

>>71544215
Investors don't watch chuubas or even know what multidimensional debuts are, anon. They analyze financials and business metrics to make decisions, and Niji's latest results are a fucking mess.

They sell the stock, anticipating the company's limited growth prospects.

>> No.71593129

>>71573577
Tomorrow evening, 8pm Eastern/5pm Pacific.
For stocks which close between 2k-3k, the trade limit is 500 yen. Since 5032.T closed at 2451 on Friday, the lowest it can go on Monday's trading is 1951.
For stocks which close between 1500-2000, the trade limit is 400 yen. If 5032.T closes at 1951 on Monday, the lowest it can go on Tuesday's trading is 1551.

...buy popcorn tomorrow afternoon.

>> No.71593274

>>71548595
Until you try to express 1 CCV in units of Finanas.

>> No.71593380

>>71591113
Can we make 1 elira equal to 15 minutes, the exact duration of the "A Message from Nijisanji EN"?

>> No.71594187

>>71593380
hmm, we can, but maybe push it to a ratio
the ccv of the black video/time(15min) = Elira constant.
If this number have something to do to all streams exist, just like how Euler's numbers rules growth and decay, that im too much mathlet to figure out.

>> No.71594351

>>71560764
I agree that for the purposes of messing with ego searches, the finana should remain as such.

However I have no issue with an official abbreviation when it comes to its use on pics, which can't be caught in a text search.

>> No.71597255

>>71591113
1 finana = 300ccv
1 Enna = Around $2K USD superchat
1 Vox = 1 dick sucked
1 Millie = dietary value of 3 pagpag a day

>> No.71598063

>>71597255
lol ahahhaha

>> No.71598971

>>71544215
Petra's 3D is not enough to boost even herself. She was just streaming at 5Fnn

>> No.71607185

>>71597255
heh

>> No.71607420

>>71597255
1 paper = 4450 CAD
1 Enna = 4000 CAD

>>71593380
I like this one.

>> No.71607517

>>71607420
It makes more sense if 1 Enna = 2000 CAD because then 2 ennas is still less than 1 paper.

>> No.71607749

>>71607420
The paper was not 4450 CAD, it was 4450 USD

>> No.71608265

>>71607420
Ah I forgot she had 2 streams on her bday and only looked at the numbers on one. My bad

>> No.71608477

>>71608265
Yeah, 1 Enna = combination of concert + bday stream

>>71607749
my mistake, I assumed CAD because Doki is Canadian.

>> No.71610811

>>71560229
mol is short for mole

>> No.71611432

>>71544215
Are you joking? Both japs and ens could tell they learned fucking nothing by having riku act like god in her 3d debut like nothing even happened. Even people on the yahoo finance board were wondering what the fuck they were thinking.

>> No.71612966

>>71611432
Wait, that wasn't a joke edit? That actually fucking was in there?
Holy shit they're so out of touch, my god.

>> No.71613118

>>71611432
I'm actually pretty impressed, a few days ago japs thought niji could do no wrong

>> No.71615580

>>71613118
weeks ago*
anon, the tide turned once EN-JP speakers brought EN context over post-Seren Shokku
the investors know it is a dying cesspool now

>> No.71619940

How many hours till stock market opens in JPN?

>> No.71620071

>>71619940
https://www.tradinghours.com/markets/jpx
16ish hours to go.

>> No.71620091

All these fucks laughing at Cover stocks thinking Nijisanji always kicks their ass. Karma

>> No.71624313

>>71620091
setting up your grudge posts i see...

>> No.71625147

honestly how does petra even have that many jp fans
like even 'much more than anyone else in en' is still not very often
is it just uooh cunny in language i dont speak + nostalgia hey i recognize her

>> No.71625369

>>71544215
Petra's 3D brought in barely any money and CCV means nothing when you know it'd get view botted.
It changed nothing, stock will hit the cap again and stay there on Monday. iirc that would mean 2040? if it ended Friday at 2440

>> No.71625786

>>71625147
No she's extremely fluent in japanese to the point where people joked she was being traded for Oliver Evans from nijiJP. Nearly the whole 3D was in japanese apparently.
>>71625369
Was it even viewbotted? Just pity tourism from being up against holofes would make me think that 20k people could reasonably show up. The view graph didn't look crazy to me either.

>> No.71626175

>>71544215
I don't know, did Petra earn those missing 30% revenue from the earnings target? If no, then the entire EN branch's job is actually on the line right now. They unironically girlbossed too close to the sun.

>> No.71626427

>>71611432
>>71612966
I'll be fair. That looked like one of the prerecorded segments of the show and they had to keep it in for the challenge theme of Petra's 3D. The fact she threw him later and that thud kinda makes up for it but I doubt they would've been able to cut that out even if they wanted to without redoing that entire segment.

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>>71597255
>1 Enna = Around $2K USD superchat
Or half piece of white paper.

>> No.71630115

>>71613118
>I'm actually pretty impressed, a few days ago japs thought niji could do no wrong
They didn't thought much of the Selen Shock, they have doubts but nothing big came out of it, the Q3 meeting was the real nuke, they come to realize Riku doesn't know wtf is he doing then all the drama became real for them, which EN already new since February.
Imagine if they had the GURRAT in japanese since the start and they weren't so afraid of Anycolor blacklisting them for making it public.

>> No.71630276

>>71620091
>All these fucks laughing at Cover stocks thinking Nijisanji always kicks their ass. Karma
Show them this >>71409266.

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>13 hours left

>> No.71632681

>>71611432
>>71612966
>>71626427
Link to VOD timestamp of Petra wishing to God a 3D model for herself and having Riku appear in his place instead:
https://youtu.be/y_YO0LLXYr4?t=175

>> No.71632814

>>71632113
Only so long until the antis get fucked.

>> No.71632983

>>71632681 (me)
Don't forget to put subtitles on, as Riku talks in Japanese for almost the whole segment.

>> No.71633003

Tick tock, sisters.

>> No.71633019

Question, why would people buy the stocks now instead of waiting for it to fall even lower? Seems like a no-brainer, but the nips in the yahoo board keep talking about buying it now

>> No.71633172

>>71633019
Because this is as low as it will go and it will bounce up.

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>>71633172
>Because this is as low as it will go

>> No.71633299

Is the impact negligible yet

>> No.71633381

>>71633267
This is your chance to buy the dip.

>> No.71634174

>>71633172
Buy the dip! you got this!

>> No.71636722

>>71625369
If a stock opens above 2000, it can fall by 500 points, min for Monday will be 1940. Below 2000 Yen, the limit is 400.

>> No.71637065

Any chance Kami Tazumi can pull off a miracle for his pump and dump on Monday?

>> No.71639633

>>71637065
Define miracle. Miracle as in going back to 3000? No chance. Staying where they are currently? No chance. Not hitting the floor again? Extremely unlikely

>> No.71641791

>>71639633
Dunno, you really think they'll hit the floor again? There's no way they dropped over half their value over two business days... right?

>> No.71644527

>>71641791
Anon, look at the graph from Friday. It was flatter than Rushia's chest. That means no-one is buying. They were at the floor the entire day. There are a lot of people trying to get out. To top it off, their Investor Q&A didn't answer anything and only vague promises that things will get better. Then all any savvy investor will have to do is look at the free section of the Holofes concert and see a packed concert hall with up to 30% gaijins according to some anons there and all the merchandising records being broken. Anycolor now also has a margin loan issue on their shares so now there are people with a vested interest in tanking the share price. On top of everyone knowing q4 is going to be not so great.

>> No.71650008

>>71636722
My bad I got the two mixed up. Even worse, I had it right, looked at the chart again, then adjusted it wrong lmao

>> No.71655126

>>71544215
maybe

>> No.71658417

>>71544328
Sister you gotta accept the truth sometimes and not be so bitter maybe it'll set you free

>> No.71663785

>>71576327
>VTA dead
>NijiEN dying
Even if they actually go through with the studio plan it would be at least late next year before it becomes fully operational
Unless they have more plans in the final FY2024 report they are in for a rough couple of years at least

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>>71632113
>7 hours left

>> No.71668001

>>71629617
There is one use for the Enna: counting the pages in termination announcements. Selen got a 3 Ennas termination.

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