/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>71558800
Eliminate all male vtubers
That is the alpha and omega advice

>>71558873
fpbp

Why are people trying to split /wasp/?

Thank you anons for the advice last thread instead of calling me a tourist and telling me to fuck off, I appreciate it. I will brainstorm how to help my oshi
Now please call me a tourist and tell me to go back, its what I'm used to, it feels right

>>71559151
fucking kek
at least based anon knows their place

now fuck off tourist

>>71559151
Just tell your oshi to avoid any contact with males whenever possible.

>>71559116
Actually It already happened twice already, with /jong/ and now /ads/

>>71559151
check the op
>I'm just a lowly viewer but I want to help my oshi grow. Can I ask here?
>Go ahead, but remember to ask for her consent for sketchy stuff ( like 4chan ads)

In any case feel free to hang around and ask advice for your oshi, then you can take credit for what we said and she will think you are so smart. We are here to help, honestly

>>71559151
wish i had a fan like you

Hi everyone! Been lurking for a while now but I wasn't sure when it would be a good time to introduce myself with all the hubbub earlier. My name is AquaFaye and I've been chuubing for a month now. I'm going to go live in a bit but I would appreciate any feedback you have for me! I'm still learning the ropes! 0_0

https://www.twitch.tv/aquafaye_

>>71559151
Fuck you lurk more tourist

<3 have fun

>>71559362
tbqh most of the original /jong/ posters were from /asp/ until /pcg/ took over the thread

>>71559738
Thoughts on male vtubers?

>>71559738
Hag? Also French?

>>71559738
What are you streaming?

>>71559906
perhaps the most important question for all wasps and a determining factor to GMI or NGMI

>>71559906
They're valid and should be loved? I haven't really had a lot of contact the male chuubas yet :O

>>71559947
I'm not a hag I'm a fish. Also Belgian so kinda french?

>>71560055
Final Fantasy 7 Remake! Still need to play it so I can get in on everyone's Rebirth hype.

>>71559116
>Why are people trying to split /wasp/?
You want to know the real reason? I got this from /ads/

>>71560120
>They're valid and should be loved
Is this a babi? Who talks like this.
It’s wrong but also fucking stupid to say like that.

>>71560120
Below 25 years old = cringe
25-29 years old = Christmas cake
30+ years old = hag

>>71560240
Note that despite what viewers think you don't need to really be that age in real life if you can fake it.
There are very successful vtubers that advertise themselves as hags but aren't really.

>>71559738
>name underscore
I hope the original isn't a streamer or active anymore

>>71560240
Does that also count for fish though? I mean, if counting real age I guess I'm haggy?
>>71560210
Just trying to keep the vibe chill. I haven't had any bad experiences with the male chuubas yet.

>>71560410
> I mean, if counting real age I guess I'm haggy
K I will follow

>>71560401
Yeah, the account is dead but it's frustrating you can't request the URL from Twitch.

Starting now, wish me luck! :D

>>71560240
Don't care gonna keep supporting my daughter chuubas anyway. As a hag viewer that is my responsibility

>>71560486
Lucky. You can but need to achieve the checkmark first

>>71560524
It's just a meme. I also have a daughterlarp

>>71560410
You will have bad experiences with male vtubers, with angry viewers and being a failure to ever achieve anything.
Cut yourself off from all male vtubers. Have nothing to do with them or you WILL regret it.

>>71559738
do you like majhong

>>71560669
you sound bitter

>>71559738
Do you play fighting games or are willing to learn them?

QB might seriously be a hag

That new chubbler sounds very haglike

>>71560669
>>71560897
Unironically though, for the most part anons right. at least for wasps

>>71561544
It's right for everyone. No one should ever have anything to do with male vtubers because Male vtubers shouldn't exist.
If they seem nice? They're just trying to abuse, groom and leech from you. Even then they'll say mean things about you behind your back.
Meanwhile associating with males will drive away all fans you could get. You'll stagnate and die.

>>71559738
you should buy an ad so you can be featured in >>>/vt/ads

I will be debuting later yesterday please come watch me if I dont get any views i will be very upset

>>71562905
Link?

>>71562905
Starting to feel the overlap again

>>71562905
how can i watch you if you debuted yesterday

What does your stream starting / ending / brb screen look like? Animated or simple png?
Mine feels so uninspired so I wanna see what my waspies are working with.

>>71563317
I have an animated starting soon, which can also be used as a brb but I usually just leave it on my overlay screen when I brb. I have an artwork that I just throw on with a "see you soon" for offline

>>71563238
skill issue

>>71562905
Please post your link later because we have no clue who you are.

QB what the fuck

>There's a slight whiff of whale activity and suddenly they all scurry out of their little holes.
Hell yeah, I'm no more than a little dolphine, but I'd love to have more femanons to the tierlist, I've loved all of them so far.

>>71565306
What

>>71565306
which has been your favorite waspies so far and why, mr oiler?
maybe the others can learn from them how to catch people like you

>>71565306
ty for supporting waspies!!

>>71565306
>dolphin
you guys have hierarchy systems?

>>71566500
dolphin is a common term for gacha games too when you spend a couple hundred here and there but you aren't a whale who maxes their new fave waifu on release with thousands

The urge to shill is getting to me but i must restrain myself from posting random vtubers no one on the board cares about

>>71566692
interesting, i was under the impression spending hundreds counted as whale
learned something new today woaw

This was very helpful and easy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec4pzmnt9OE&t=449s

https://files.catbox.moe/04mpav.gif

>>71566078
My favorite and oshi is a secret, but so far Pittie is just very cute and her singing fills a little hole in my heart I have been missing for a long time. She's so energetic and want to be a good streamer, same with Elfin and her drunken screams of horror were so cute. Love Mutton too, but she's yet to stream. Bonni is great, but I have a hard time with some retro games.
I would say the overall design mixed with the voice regardless of quality of said model, is very important for my immersion personally. The voice is also in itself important so a good mic is well received imo.

>>71566984
Have people already told you that your eyes are too far apart?

>>71566984
pafu we've had webms for 13 years now you don't have to keep living this way

>>71566711
thats what wvt is for, literally

>>71567104
>all anti males
This is key to get big spenders girls!

>>71567349
They have no viewers just rebel

>>71567428
there are a few wvts that refuse to leave, despite him
some of them are vtubers still

>>71567104
> name not mentioned
im NGMI

>>71566984
thats actually pretty useful indeed
>>71567515
maybe you are his secret oshi, dont get discouraged

>>71567156
Yeah that's just the style my artist does, i think it makes her girls look like giga stacies
>>71567265
it's about compressing

>>71567515
same

>>71567618
>>71566984
>Male collaber
lol

>>71566754
I spend around $900 last year on vtubers in total. I think I've spend around $450 so far this year. So I'm only a little dolphine.
I've seen peers spend upwards of $20.000+ on vtubers, THOSE are whales.
>>71567401
...huh ...shit.

>>71567104
I'm glad you find the waspies entertaining, I hope you continue to make the girlies happy and pls no groom

>>71567104
anon why is it a secret!!!
also elfin and pittie are collabing, so you're eating real good soon

>>71567770
Don't be ashamed, show these girls that what we are preaching is the truth: CGDCT is king

>>71567836
doing mahjong?

>>71567770
Why do you talk like this

>>71568265
they haven't decided iirc

>>71568441
tell them do to mahjong elfin just LITERALLY GOT NOTICED BY PIPPA
THIS IS THE QB CIRCLE
WE ARE ALL GOING TO MAKE IT

Are there any compiled lists of waspies? Interested in some new chuubas

>>71568188
what the fuck is cgdct

>>71568515
Jong is a boring niche solely carried by the streamers talent and personality

>>71568561
There's a tier list in the last thread, it's being updated though, I believe.

>>71568561
List off some of your favorite chuubas and I will give you recommendations accordingly

>>71567836
>also elfin and pittie are collabing, so you're eating real good soon
Hell yeah.
>>71568265
oh no.
>>71568432
Very, very tired, slightly intoxicated. What's wrong with the way I talk? People have asked me that before on here.

>>71568561
img related

>>71567104
anon went on about waspies he likes here

I didn't realize QB could sing

>>71568561
Not a full list, no. The tiermaker is the best attempt but that hasn't been updated to include some newer names.

>>71568602
cute girls do cute things, lurk more tourist

>>71568615
that is irrelevant, the relevant part is that pcg goers like it

Shylilly trading card game is cute. I want to see waspies on cards

>>71569113
she needs to fix that mic tho

>>71558800
Previous thread
>>71506884

>>71569126
Made this one earlier today, let me know who's missing.
https://tiermaker.com/create/wasp-vtubers-16934564

>>71569126
>>71570380
Leaving the tier-list out of the OP is a way of giving the problem attention.

>>71570380
Gura...

>>71570380
the girl that posted today >>71559738

also this one https://www.twitch.tv/doomdez

>>71570380
Aw man, I'd hate to make you create a new one over and over but me please

>>71570725
Isn't this a babi?

>>71570380
thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/@CoreOfMidas

Might as well add her in since she self posted last week.

>>71571349
oh right she posted too

>>71570944
Gobbcubus drew the waspie chibi group art

>>71571126
>everyone you've watched is S tier

I approve

Vallure anon I did it, I sent the fuwamoco lesbian duo channel suggestion
If you know them in any way tell them I am FUCKING SERIOUS ABOUT IT

>>71571126
Incredibly accurate, I've watched a few of the ones you havent though

No one showed up to my debut tomorrow i am very upset

do people still do jermacraft for voice checks

>>71571586
Future femanon....

>>71571665
huh? what is this?

>>71571665
I haven’t seen a jermacraft in ages but do it anyways

>>71571471
So? Males make lots of art but that doesn't mean they belong here.

Go collab with QB too Elfin

>>71570380
Not her but I'd love if someone could upgrade Miu Kyun's image and text.

>>71572455
>wanting QB to leech
She doesn't need her.

>>71570944
Are you asking me if I'm a dude? no, I'm one of the hags that hasn't started streaming yet

>>71572617
>no, I'm one of the hags that hasn't started streaming yet
Lol yeah it's trans.

>>71571349
omg she's cuet

>>71572455
IN JONG

>>71572490
Every collab is a leech from someone

>>71570944
It's the artist who's drew picrel.
>>71572473
Give me an image and I'll add the text.
Updated
https://tiermaker.com/create/wasp-vtubers-16934564

>>71572654
Oh, you're schizo, got it. Back to finding better clip studio brushes.

>>71572895
>>71572617

please draw us more!! the art is so cute i love fan art and everyone here is so talented at drawing i wanna get better so i can draw waspies too!!

>>71571822
https://voca.ro/1av3mzHj9A5N
posted here a while ago to see if my voice was too masculine but i was sick and had a shitty mic, hoping to get some more insight

>>71573342
trans, unironically.

>>71573254
I'd like to! How can I not? waspies are too stinking cute, I really enjoy the variety of designs we have here. It's great practice(that I still desperately need)

>>71573432
They're invading. Troons everywhere.
You say ban all males but they don't get the message.

>>71573432
ah that's what i thought. does it change anything if i say i was trans the other way around and stopped

>>71573769
Yes 100%

>>71572813
>Give me an image and I'll add the text.
This one, or the other, thank you very much.
https://files.catbox.moe/gigcxk.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/4ohdbr.jpg

>>71572490
its elfin the one who needs qb
she needs her so she can teach her how to JONG

>>71571822
Cute voice, not passing but bearable, just need to keep up your vocal reps, would check out

>>71574065
Jong is a dead end.

>>71573769
Yes. The change is that I now know you're groomable. You still sound like a guy in his early 20s.

>>71573943
>>71574075
sick, thank you. i appreciate it!

>>71574113
I agree it is FOTM, but the more reason to do it now while its still hot

Did QB answered her marshmallows already?
I need to see if she accepted my marriage proposal

>>71574491
WELL FUCK YOU TOO

you know, I am starting believe the schizo might be into something

>>71574491
Oi you looking funny at me birb? I'll beat you up, mate, I swear on me Mond.

>>71573769
Sorry to hear about your circumstances but you should be taking voice lessons or something in order to fix this because it's possible to do it.

>>71573769
testoterone will fuck you up
I think the only way to reverse it is with surgery, which I would suggest you to do since a big important part of streaming is the voice

Alternatively considering debuting as a male character like ray rabestain does

>>71574927
1 blocks non-asps but not asp males.

>>71575496
Original Metroid Samus Aran level reveal one day. Or do a doctor girlfriend stick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlAPrdJ1HO8&t=10s

>>71575612
you should buy an ad telling women to stop collabing with males, anon
that actually would be pretty based and we could post it in the /ADS/ split >>71556295

>>71575496
>>71575959
On the other hand, you'll never get rid of the tranny accusations.

>>71576040
You can if you want, I'll just keep posting and telling them directly.
Go for it.

>>71576040
do it i triple dog dare you

>>71576123
yeah but think about all the others you are not reaching

>>71576212
Go for it since it was your idea, you cover ads and I'll cover the threads!
BAN ALL MALES!

>>71576260
Based male hating

>>71576260
20 bucks is expensive for an Indonesian, anon
Anyas are broke as fuck

>>71576343
Too bad they're trans and males so they'll never make any money vtubing.
Wait, that's not too bad at all it's fucking hilarious.
Remember, NEVER COLLAB WITH MALES
NEVER FOLLOW MALES
NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM

elfin streaming
https://www.twitch.tv/elfinpsyop

>>71576490
tell her to buy an ad (unironically)

Also girls put in your best faces boobros oilers are coming into the thread, they are pretty vulnerable right now

>>71576672
Idfk why's everyone sleeping on buying ads like they're cheap as fuck lmfao

pussies

>>71576854
they are scared of the big bad 4chan audience even if they are posting in asp so go figure

>>71576854
Ads are best spent on trolling hololive 3rd world phoneposters at their price since they can't do it back but I don't care enough to do that.

>>71571349
i like midas, shame shes going through some shit because of its "success"
I hope she never sees midas as content and stops,

>>71576672
im not ouhhh so i dont thnk it matters anon

>>71576936
lol the 4chan audience isn't even that bad

>>71574221
i'll do my best to be as groom-worthy as possible (and take voice lessons or something)
>>71575286
>>71575496
i'll definitely look into it! thank you for your insight, i really appreciate it
>>71576110
i can handle it, happens all the time and it doesn't bother me

>>71577197
It's great. Lots of lonely loser males willing to throw lots of money at you.
Just avoid the maletubers, they have no money.

>>71577120
there is always a haglover among those

>>71577269
Exactly. Just fucking be smart about it and avoid moids. ]

>>71577269
Yeah i don't even know why i do it when i know i gain nothing of it

>>71578015
Boys are simple.

>>71578015
giving money feels good on its own
giving presents feels better than receiving it
humans are actually wired to help one another as much as we are wired to sabotage one another
both feel equaly rewarding
inside of you, two wolves, the one you feed is the one that wins

If schizos knew how good it feels to be a good person they wouldnt be schizos

I don't want to be in /asp/ but I'm a guy. Please help me

>>71578330
return to viewer

Stop fighting. Take a step back.

>>71578330
Why not just kill yourself you off topic attention whore?
Stay away from real vtubers.

>>71578330
You know what the male /asp/ies who made it did? They left this place

I'm kinda happy you guys kept the /wasp/ name i came up with even tho I dont even come to this thread. hope you are doing well today too chu~

>>71579009
Go away fag.
Why do you maletubers insist on invading this thread?

>>71579009
you should come and stick around
take responsibility for your creation

>>71579060
I'm not a maletuber lol you're confusing me with the guy who started the thread and named it fasp or some shit. i just drive by renamed it and it stuck for some reason
>>71579442
i might...

>>71578123
But she is just cute and maybe a bit horny

>>71579577
whats your home general, name giver?

What the fuck did you guys do to gumpai this time? I hate this change.

>>71579649
use to be /mans/ then was /orc/ for a while now I just dont really post anywhere much

>>71579935
fujo anon...

>>71579932
>you guys
We seldom talk about her here.

>>71579935
Are you the Filipina nurse gremlin

>>71579935
based based based

I have a couple opportunities to collab with some relatively large male flesh streamers in my niche, should I? I’m not GFE but I toe the line a little bit.

>>71580506
Why not? Steal their audience. But the word 'relatively' concerns me, are they even big compared to you and what even is the niche?

>>71580225
not really a fujo tbdesu
>>71580400
I don't know who that is so probably no. I am not a known entity afaik, but I did entertain the idea of streaming for a while but then i gave up lol

>>71580506
You're in a similar situation as me. I have an opportunity to collab with a couple male fleshtubers in my niche too. I'll probably do it in the future, I don't see it causing any issues if it's specifically because of your niche.

>>71576672
>coming into the thread
no they arent, not really
maybe like 1

>>71580976
>50 subs in QBs stream today
How?

>>71580506
depends a lot on your current audience
most vtubers fans hate fleshstreamers, hence why they watch vtubers

Also audiences rarely overlap since people who watch fleshstreamers also hate vtubers for some reason

In general, collabs rarely translate to viewerships, even among women, so only do it if you think the collab will actually be interesting to watch, which in most cases it sadly isnt.

If they want to help you they can just raid you, if you see you can retain some of that audience maybe it will work

Also your GFE viewers will absolutely hate it no matter what so they will probably drop you

>50 subs in QBs stream today
How?

>>71581279
it's a celebration stream

>>71580506
Only good example I have seen of this is tenma and albino since both remain professional.

>>71580506
Have you talked to your fans about it?
Also you should do collabs for views, it doesnt work like that except rare cases, do collabs because you want to and they are fun.
We arent your fans, we hate male collabs, ask your fans and if they say no either listen to them and never speak of it again or choose to do it and probably lose a lot of fans instead of gain them.
But really dont collab unless you think it will be fun for both you and your viewers, even with females

>>71581484 (me)
>you should
you shouldnt*
my bad

>>71581279
Denpafish dropped 30 of those.

VAllure. Adult vtuber corpo, focusing on lewd audio.
https://www.vallure-agency.com/auditions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hAuJGicloA

>>71582318
giwtwm

>>71579577
Transtubers still count as men.

>>71580506
All vtubing is gfe

How shitfaced has QB been during the stream? Tell me about it.

>>71583146
she was pretty funny

>>71583146
Her model is so ugly, I hope she gets another one soon.

>>71579935
wtf i didnt think other /orc/ users would follow along

>>71582719
i am not trans and not a tuber i dont know what your issue is anon

>>71584343
It's just the vroid look

>>71584471
Wasn't she VRoid?

>>71581802
Denpas fat tits...

>>71584437
>>71579935
Fujos...
Gross

>>71584781
anon if i was a fujo i would have stayed over at /asp/

>>71584781
I dont get it, what makes you think I'm a fujo?

>>71585024
milk?

>>71584715
>she's using fansly money to gift subs to QB
based

My god what is the fucking faggot crying about GFE in Elfins chat for?
This same gay ass pipnigger or something?

>>71584681
Blender edited iirc which makes a huge difference

>>71584471
So? Ugly as fuck.

>>71585237
HEY I REMEMBER THIS NIGGA
good times

>>71585527
nah this fag highlighting his messages

>elfin is a MRE autist
let's get her onto the tray!

>>71585237
least it was funny to see Elfin about to delve into shitting on GFE only to hold back for once.

>>71584681
if you look through youtube you will find phenomenal vroid models, yes, it's not something that anyone can just do with minimal effort tho

>>71585613
>>71585527
it's just virtual signaling, thats the equivalent of "pick me" behavior in males.
>>71585703
when elfin falls and lose the boobros because of shit like this, someone else will pick up her new donors

>>71585527
>>71585613
They're right but also wrong because you GFE whether you want to or not, and it is financially important.

>>71585527
Yikes

>>71585488
QB has real crabs now? I'm so proud of my wife...

KHUBIE YOU ARE CUTE DON'T EVER FORGET THAT

>>71585804
we'll see. she never was trying to be or said she was GFE, so its a different scenario still.

>>71585838
All women are GFE because they are either unable to set boundaries or are too afraid to because they know they will lose money.
Also yea if we are talking about real GFE you shouldnt do it unless you actually want to care about your fans, there is nothing wrong with being GFE if its genuine

>>71585613
People who will try to date the vtubers for real hate GFE, then dont like the girls who they date flirting with their audience.
Source: Aetheria leaks

I'm pretty sure qb has something wrong with her setup too because the way the model is being displayed on stream is extremely low resolution
vroids shouldn't be like that

>>71586087
yea the worst people are the ones who dont understand you can genuinely care about people without trying to actually date them behind the scenes

>>71586141
It's her shit laptop, she has mentioned before than her CPU runs constantly at 100% and 90 degrees. I'm shocked that it actually runs.

>>71586044
>All women are GFE because they are either unable to set boundaries or are too afraid to because they know they will lose money.
No they are because men will always fall for girls that are nice to them, pretty and give them attention. Just having a girl spend time with your is girlfriend behavior on some level.
>Also yea if we are talking about real GFE you shouldnt do it unless you actually want to care about your fans, there is nothing wrong with being GFE if its genuine
Hardcore GFE is never "genuine" on the same level between the vtuber and the people being targeted. It is better to say you should never do it unless you are devoted to keeping it up 100% at the level of GFE you decide to do.

>>71586330
streaming on a laptop with constantly overheating cpu.... jesus christ how horrifying, I hope she can upgrade it soon

>>71586475
>nothing is ever a womans fault until it is under my own weird ruleset
nah... just dont go GFE if you dont believe in it and dont be upset men like you when you are basically selling yourself like a whore on the internet like literally every vtuber objectively does

>>71586707
I never said that. Your own biases as a viewer are blinding you.
>just dont go GFE if you dont believe in it
Easy to believe in GFE but that doesn't mean you actually love people like you say. Believe in the process itself is enough.
>dont be upset men like you when you are basically selling yourself like a whore on the internet like literally every vtuber objectively does
This is true which is why it is important to realize that all vtubing is GFE just at different levels.
Some people don't want a super focused pandering type of GFE, especially since it becomes more obviously apparent and fake to this that aren't interested. However doing that will attract people that will be very devoted and will likely be very lucrative as they will be willing to waste loads of money on you.

>>71585996
I hope she sees...

>>71587031
NTA but I think women who dont do true GFE should go out and get real jobs instead of being vtubers to make it easier for me to find good vtubers

If you don't like GFE why not just don't watch them?

>>71588952
no, you dont understand, it is important that NO ONE enjoys the thing they dont enjoy

Elfin is too cute...

>>71585960
Nta and frankly, she needs a very cute Live2D

>>71588952
All vtubing is GFE.

>>71585960
>if you say anything that isn’t praise it is crabbing

addicted to gamba game and i dont wanna sleep early today, let's hang!

https://www.twitch.tv/fwofie

>>71589754
Welp my oshi is live too

>>71589754
>gamba
another soul lost to balatro

>>71589817
its okay. ill catch you another time!

>>71589554
most hilarious lie there is right here.

>>71589962
It isn't a lie.
Men will fall in love with you even if you don't want them to or intend for them to. Even those that don't do so consciously will treat you differently if they know you have a boyfriend for example.
Look at all the people in this thread fawning over the girls posted.

are there any successful streamers who are socially inept and not just carried by korean gaming skills?

>>71589962
Cringe = daugther experience
Christmas cakes = younger sister
Hags = broodmare

>>71590252

Layla just kissed me, see you later losers

>>71590417
broodWHAT.

its been about a week but i took another shower, anons! hope you're proud of me

>>71593669
oh no, the neet stink is now gone

>>71593669
Good job stinky

>>71593217
By 30, you have 75% eggs left. By 35, 50%. By 40, 25%.

>>71585804
that sounds very manipulative anon

>>71593669
Ria Citrx...

>>71593669
A male posted this.

any of you asp chuubas keeping up with the divegrass?

>>71595012
>asp chuubas
Wrong thread

>>71595051
is it though? We all know at least half of the asp chuubas are here.

>>71593669
You're doing better than this femanon

>>71595051
whatever you know what i mean

>>71595167
every femanon i know is legitimately disgusting like this

>>71595051
Probably a pathetic male wanting female attention.

>>71586475
i think the best gfe comes from those who aren’t doing it intentionally honestly. skirting around it but not going all in gets people’s hearts moving more

>>71593669
>>71595167
Just shave your pit hair. The stink comes from the sweat drying up on the hair. Youll still stink, but it wont be as bad

>>71595885
but thats is the best part

>>71595653
>i think the best gfe comes from those who aren’t doing it intentionally honestly. skirting around it but not going all in gets people’s hearts moving more
Here is the secret though: Someone can intentionally go for that level of GFE and its associated behavior.
In fact I think it is likely better if they are doing it intentionally instead of unintentionally: The end result of he feelings their fans get will be the same (since on the fan's side they appear the same) but one that is unaware, or more likely willfully ignorant, has a greater risk to hself and to her fans as they are less likely to be mindful of what could shatter the illusion the fans have, making them leave you or even become your anti.

>>71576854
I'm waiting for a big special event like a model debut

>>71571126
kill yourself

>>71596378
you ok bud?
what is wrong with that list?

>>71596218
from the gosling magnets i’ve seen that don’t do gfe intentionally, their fanbase is more understanding and respectful. schizos obviously will come with it, but its on a less intense scale than the ones that intentionally did it, like what happened with boobros

>>71596484
This goes back to the different levels of GFE I said.
Yuko did very, very GFE stuff to groom and pander to that.
But someone could have the appearance of unintentional GFE while still intending for that to be the vibe they give off and the emotions they intend to invoke in their fans. From the fan's perspective it is identical to unintentional GFE.

>>71596444
you too

>>71596930
As a minor IdolCorp fag, Yuko had easily one of the best and most supportive fanbases in all of vtubing, she did GIGA hard GFE pandering and directly told people to fall in love with her and that it was ok to do so.
There is a reason shes a raging depressed alcoholic after her insane grift fell apart, its insane how evil and manipulative some people can be. And she even blames her former fans for "forcing her to do it, and never supporting her other content"

>>71598021
wait myu is a mouse?

>>71598391
She is.

>>71598021
insanely wrong

>>71598799
why does her model doesnt have ears

>>71598884
show us the truth, anon

>>71598880
it do

>>71598021
Mond hasnt showered in at least 2 years, you are lucky if she even gets out of her bed once a week

>>71599227
is it a toggle or something because I have been just calling you purple creature when I link you in fig

>>71596070
If it peeks from out of your pits while your arm is down at least trim the top of it.

>>71596930
the lines are different. a vtuber calling their chat their husband and asking them not to look at other girls is different than a vtuber playfully flirting occasionally. they both evoke the same emotion, but the latter is safer as the line hasn’t been fully crossed yet

>>71599296
So she says.

>>71599860
what about asking your fans to send you cum tributes and love letters and telling them you love them and giving them kisses after every stream and doing blowjob asmr while panting that you love them and are thinking about them fucking you?

>>71600080
riro did nothing wrong

>>71598391
i have cheese for brains https://youtu.be/8mbZB9Wyrdw?si=w9msPn1wgGxY9fhE :') (i dont know why it wouldnt let me upload just the video.. but i guess getting a youtube started is a good idea)

>>71600262
that was Yuko....
she also went way farther than Riro ever did, and at least Riro actually wanted to fuck her fans, Yuko lied about it

>>71600080
Thats just what all yt members streams are like.

>>71600403
damn didnt knew she went that far
the cum tribute part might be a bit too much

>>71600399
cute, im new around here and havent seen you much, will sub, also link your socials together, it will help you out a lot since most people cant be assed to go find your twitch/twitter without a link

>>71600604
do you like tekken, anon?

>>71600600
This is about 1/100th of her members posts that were saved, there were ones straight up about her masturbating to her fans and stuff

>>71600604
gotcha! yes i have a carrd :> its https://miukyun.carrd.co/ ! (i just forgot to link it to the scuffed youtube account i just made :'D)

>>71599296
are you retarded?

>>71599969
neither of you watch streams

>>71600760
I dont... dislike Tekken lol
>>71601052
cute! ill try and tune in to your next stream

>>71601052
I wanna click it

>>71601008
thats uhh.... actually really gross to read after knowing what she did holy fuck

>>71601052
This is a very cute card.

>>71600080
that’s locking yourself in a dangerous position kek unless you’re a chuuba like miori

>>71601008
literal demon behaviour

>>71601256
dont cliiiiiiiiiicckkk!!!!!!! (jk its ultimate click bait >:D)
>>71601773
thank you! itll be updated soon... so it can be a tad more readable :')

>>71601008
She really is a amazing case study for both how to grow the most supportive possible fanbase but also how to destroy your entire career and everything you shouldn't do if you want to last as a vtuber

>>71601008
qrd on who this is? I literally don't know who she is, and this the first time i see them somehow.

>>71602356
I didn't realize you were relatively new.
>/asp/
Fuck.

/wasp/ will adopt you now since you don't have much /asp/ie orbiter

>>71602678
Yuko Yurei, have fun diving into this trainwreck.

>>71602927
late
fig adopted her 2 months ago

>>71601008
>>71600403
>>71599860
The term GFE comes from an actual type of prostitution, what Yuko did is in that sense more in line with GFE than anything. Saying all vtubing is GFE may be less accurate than saying it is all prostitution, but viewers will fall in love with you even if you don't want or intend for them to.
> vtuber calling their chat their husband and asking them not to look at other girls is different than a vtuber playfully flirting occasionally. they both evoke the same emotion, but the latter is safer as the line hasn’t been fully crossed yet
Some liken GFE and its targets as akin to a drug dealer and drug user. GFE is taking advantage of those who are vulnerable for economic benefit but a drug dealer that sells marijuana is different from one selling fentanyl.
Additionally, what starts as pure grifting (inherent to vtubing on some level) can eventually lead to a mindset where the grifter has convinced herself of the purity of her own behavior. While still disgusted by it you can come to be addicted to the love, attention and money that you get and convince yourself you're doing something good like a "psychic" practicing his scams so long that he becomes a shuteye. However you can become burnt out or disillusioned and make very dumb, dangerous mistakes.

>>71603057
We're threadbros anyway

>>71602678
Yuko Yurei from Idol corp, a full rundown would take literally an entire thread by itself but TLDR she did TURBO hard GFE harder than literally any corpo vtuber by a crazy margin and get got found out she was faking it the entire time so she ghosted her fans for 2 months and came back with the worst possible "fuck off losers" stream and refused to apologize for anything at all and lost literally all her core fans and support
She used to make thousands easily and got shit tons of fan art and projects and now she gets like $30 a week in donos despite having like 400k subs on youtube and has zero fan art.

>>71602927
thank you!!!!

>>71603081
>While still disgusted by it you can come to be addicted to the love, attention and money that you get and convince yourself you're doing something good like a "psychic" practicing his scams so long that he becomes a shuteye. However you can become burnt out or disillusioned and make very dumb, dangerous mistakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Poac0eciM0
A video that is relevant to this.

>>71603565
We have IdolEN viewers here. I think they'd like you but they're unicorns

>>71603565
NTA but I hope you like it here, there are a few angry raiders and shitters from /asp/ but the people here have been super nice as long as ive been using the thread and people i notice in chat from here have been very nice people too

also cute dorky giggle spotted, picked up, ill try and be there next stream

>>71603806
honestly, you dont have to be an unicorn to realize Yuko was kind of a grifter too dumb to realize she was the bad guy all along

>>71603806
>unicorns
hi i never post in threads really and this is my 3rd post ever in /wasp/
not a single boo bro who wasn't a complete retard was ever a unicorn
male collab hater though, yea 100%
nobody cared she had male friends IRL until it was clear she was friends with people who openly thread raided and anti posted us since her debut

>>71604157
new thread

>>71603806
Unicorns should watch Mond or Zenya for someone who won't break their heart

>>71604426
I think jannies will take down that one

>>71604142
>Yuko was kind of a grifter too dumb to realize she was the bad guy all along
I know people say don't attribute malice what can be attributed to ignorance but I have lots of experience with vtubers. They are not normal.

Don't infantilize them. They know what they're doing

>>71604529
6th page bake, don't worry

>>71603145
Deserved end I suppose.

>>71604529
why. It's holofes the board is flying.

>>71604603
>They know what they're doing
I can gurantee you most dont
Look at pafu

>>71604603
she knew what she was doing, she was literally anti posting her own fans while doing her GFE

>>71604428
mond is suicidal but zenya is a good choice

>>71603986
ill be looking forwards to it >:3 kyunie world takeover!!

>>71604610
The problem might be using the screenshot as a thread pic

>>71604340
Yeesh. Indies can be asshats but for some reasons those who gets into corpos are buncha psychopaths

>>71604895
If you make it into a corpo you absolutely know what you're doing. No, Finana does not disprove this.

>>71604142
For people less emotionally desperate that kind of extreme far end GFE just becomes more blatantly fake inherently.
But people that are vulnerable WANT to believe it, they will convince themselves. I never bought Yuko's act for a second and knew it was a grift, but her biggest failing was becoming disillusioned with her grift and going back on it instead of having the mental fortitude to continue.

>>71604957
Do you have model ref? Or is this it?

>>71604945
>mond is suicidal
I am 100% positive I can fuck that out of her
I am also 100% positive I could fuck the eepyness out of her
so basically what I am saying is Mond if you are reading this please marry me because I dont believe in premarital sex

what if the chuuba is genuinely in love with their viewers, is gfe still a bad idea

>>71605538
no, not at all
its actually a VERY good thing and will be rewarded heavily

>>71605538
Pressing the go live button is a bad idea and everything after that is damage control.

>>71605538
which one will you choose out of the pile, tho?

>>71605229
this is the closest to ref i have!! and also hehehe i love that picture so much i giggle every-time i see it even if i made it

>>71605538
GFE is amazing as long as the vtuber isnt lying about their feelings

>>71605125
>If you make it into a corpo you absolutely know what you're doing.
wrong
see pic related

Dont infatilize vtubers is a phrase said by vtubers who very often forget to bath, eat properly, go outside, often suffer from crippling autism, anxiety and sometimes will literally overwork themselves to death if their chat doesnt remind them they should sleep.

Some turn on the stream one day and get successful by mostly accident and by sheer charisma, then they apply to a corpo without knowing what it implies, and then proceed to be baffled by vtuber culture.

>>71605538
>what if the chuuba is genuinely in love with their viewers
They aren't, they just say they are. There is no way for them to truly love their viewers on the same level and same fashion as their viewers would love them.
Even if they start thinking they do, they don't. See the video posted here
>>71603662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Poac0eciM0

>>71605847
Hey, it's my sleep paralysis demon, how did you manage to picture that?

>>71605945
>being autistic is an excuse to purposely choose to be a bad person actively
i think reddit might be more your speed dude

>>71605538
I love my viewers but I am not in love with them. I love them as friends, is this feeling normal?

>>71605945
>Some turn on the stream one day and get successful by mostly accident and by sheer charisma, then they apply to a corpo without knowing what it implies, and then proceed to be baffled by vtuber culture.
That isn't relevant to Bae at all. She was a vtuber beforehand and was a nepohire by Ollie (which should make sense to you). She was a huge fan of vtubers already too, and a yumejoshi for Robel.

>>71606259
I think Yuko is a bad person but also that Bae doesnt really know what she is doing

>>71606345
>is this feeling normal
No, its not normal at all, but that is a really good thing you feel that way. The fact you care about your fans is something you should be very proud of.

>>71606403
Well I was actually thinking about Mori when I wrote that, since she sort of applied as a joke.
I just posted Bae because she is geniunely dumb

>>71606155
im in your walls (literally)

>>71606133
There definitely are chuubas out there that are, you’re just disillusioned. You have to remember there are girls are touch-starved hikkis who have never felt romantic love who become vtubers and end up falling in love with their audience, even if they don’t admit it

>>71606789
Yeah I was thinking what you said applied much more to Mori.

>>71606345
It's normal. You spend a ton of time with them, they're always happy to see you, they make you laugh, you make them laugh, they tell you interesting stories and facts, they even give you snack money. Anyone would want to be around someone like that.

>>71606803
>There definitely are chuubas out there that are
This is what I mean when I say that people want to believe so much they convince themselves. Even if they get burned they just move on to the next one.
And that's fine. Women chuubas can do what they need to or want to, taking risks on in relation to that. This thread is about advice and aspirations of women vtubers rather than their fans.

>>71605847
One more, Suigintou. Fanart rules?

>71605322

>>71607153
sadly id say most vtubers dont really care about their fans that much they care more about the numbers their fans represent
we are pretty spoiled around here since most of the girls that come here genuinely want to grow in a positive way, though there are tons that constantly come in and basically say they only care about numbers so... idk

>>71606345
>I love my viewers but I am not in love with them. I love them as friends, is this feeling normal?
It isn't real love and they aren't your friends. Consider things you would do for your real life friends. Would you do those for your viewers? No, of course not. It is a different relationship altogether.

>>71607315
0 rules!! go bananas :^) (also oh my gosh i do look like her)

>>71607298
I’m a chuuba and I feel all those things

>>71607427
"real" love is subjective as fuck my dude
there is really only so much 1 person can do even if they really care about people, not to mention the thoughts of hurting people by favoring others who might need more support or attention
Sure i doubt she really treats them like real friends but ive seen lots of vtubers reach out to fans they know are having a hard time to try and even just cheer them up, you can love people in many different ways

>>71607427
I don't have irl friends so this is the closest to it I have.

>>71607644
>go bananas
even with NSFW?

>>71607814
disaster waiting to happen

>>71608026
GO BANANAS!!!!

>>71608138
?

>>71608168
whore

>>71608168
neat, you seem fun
hope you have a wonderful night

>>71607689
That's just you being a shuteye about it. You love the attention, you love them as a mass individual, what they represent and what they do for you.
It's fine to love these things but convincing yourself that you feel the same toward your viewers that they feel toward you is counterproductive and even dangerous.

>>71607322
i will continue to post about how badly I want to impregnate Mond and make her happy and you will literally never stop me

>>71608393
you are in the wrong thread
go back >>71572484

>>71608598
>go back
fucking lol retarded male. This is advice for women vtubers even if you don't want to hear it.
They don't need to change their behavior just recognize their behavior. It'll only cause better GFE for the viewer and more financial success for the chuuba.

>>71608476
I too like to waste my time

>>71604945
Just like me frfr

>>71607322
Based Mond

>>71608168
There will be bananas