/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

kuk

my boys...look at what they did to my boys

Sometimes I think the whole "male vtuber" thing was just astroturfed into reality as a fuck you to vtuber fans from the feminazi
>oh you like cute girls instead of us roasties?
>NO I LIKE CUTE LE CARTOON BOIS

>>71579598
StarsEN CHADs won again

>>71579598
nice try sisters

>>71580339
why are sisters like this

>>71579598
grim
>>71580339
I'm quite capable of hating both stars and niji fujos thanks.

>>71579598
POPULAR DEMAND

>>71579598
lol

Is this a jealous nijisis thread or something?
At least they're at a Company event you know

>>71580967
Petra got hardmogged last night PLEASE understand

>>71581075
yeah by hololive not the dudes lol

>>71581142
Yea but your doxsite tactic is since you can't even compare Nijis to Holos anymore you do it to Homos
And Homos still beat all the Nijis, which is sad
Maybe you should give up lol

>>71581321
>Maybe you should give up lol
They won't until all the 3D debuts get announced it's gonna be like hit after hit for them all

>>71579598
I don't see a problem with this. People /here/ seem to not understand markets. If there is a market for it even if it's a small one you capitalize on it. If the market gives little profit, why not explore it? Profit is profit even if it's a small one.

>>71581489
Mindbroken blacksanji think if someone is performing poorly they should be fired

>>71581489
There's a reason we're all /here/ making either no money to minimum wage, and they're (vtubers) are /there/ making thousands to hundreds of thousands a month

>>71581489 (me)
Another thing to add to my point. If Yagoo is fine with it then Holostars must have some sort of benefit/profit.

>>71581489
As someone else said, don't the homostars still mog most of NijiEN anyways? What's the downside of having them?

>>71581489
>If there is a market for it
The market they wanted was Luxiem's. They looked at their sucess and thought "hey we have the Stars, since the West loves males so much, we can release ours and mog nijisanji there as well!".
However that market was never western but chink fujos. Not only did the Stars didn't capture the market, they managed to fuck up the one they already had. I can assure you, if luxiem had the current numbers back then they'd NEVER release ENstars.

>>71581892
Exactly

>>71582060
>The market they wanted was Luxiem
Thank fuck they didn't get that market.
Look at all those mentally deranged ugly women.
I would be completely disgusted to even think about them watching me.
There's a reason why ugly men are way more accepted than ugly women

>>71582319
From what I understand, Chinese fujos/yumes aren't exactly ugly, the problem is that the combination of what the Chinese call "princess sickness" (the female version of Little Emperor Syndrome) and the relative scarcity of young Chinese women to young Chinese men that has led to them having standards for a relationship that are UTTERLY INSANE to the point that only a fictional anime twink could possibly meet them, hence why the female Chinese fans of Luxiem were by far the most deranged since they UNIRONICALLY believed that Vox was their boyfriend.

>>71582060
>The market they wanted was Luxiem's
If that was true then they would all lean hard on BFE but instead they went in a very different direction, one that most Luxiem went full menhera when trying to transition into

>>71581489
Based on their financial knowledge, doubt they understand how market works. Sisters don't understand basic rule of supply and demand.

>>71582799
>If that was true then they would all lean hard on BFE
Cover is known for letting the talents decide the direction they take their content, within constraints. That the first wave of Stars didn't go *as hard*(because there WAS some faggotry, mind) as Luxiem says more about the people behind the avatars than about Cover's strategy's. They could easily have had a male Rushia in there.

You need to remember that the niji faggots were MASSIVE at their peak. Like, competing with holo females and mogging them in certain events big. There's zero chance that the release of two waves of stars wasn't a direct response for them, under Omega too(who had designs for himself as a holo streamer, but needed other males in the pool first).

>>71582773
Also, why China banned or heavily limited KPOP.

>>71584438
well, auditions are where they choose who they want for the kind of content they want. And if they didn't get a bfe vtuber then they didn't want the luxiem market.

>>71584438
>There's zero chance that the release of two waves of stars wasn't a direct response for them
>Omega too(who had designs for himself as a holo streamer, but needed other males in the pool first).
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Omegay ABSOLUTELY intended to label the Holomales as HoloEN 2nd gen if they were successful, and have Niji-style mixed gens thereafter. Then they tried again with Tempus 2, but it seems Cover finally got the message after even the sycophants on Plebbit kept asking "EN3 doko?" so often that the Jannies had to lock the sub, and pic-related happened when Tempus 2 debuted.

>>71581321
Sorry anon but because I'm a Holochad I still hate the homos more than I do Nijisanji. With Nijisanji it was like they were flinging shit over the fence but the homos, gen 1 in particular, were actually in the backyard taking massive dumps on the property and actively saying "We want you to eat this shit and enjoy it, we want us shitting in your backyard to be a normal occurrence." So fuck the homos and I'm glad they failed in that attempt and now hide in their little corner in shame.

>>71585515
too obvious, sis

>>71579598
Jesus! Whats the point of this homos anyway?
I hope they got booted out of fest next year, theyre just an eyesoar!

>>71579598
molest the red one

>>71585621
This is why I hate Starfags. Gigaretards.

>>71579598
POPULAR DEMAND!
THE BOIZ ARE AS POPULAR AS THE GIRLS!!!!

>billion dollar company

>>71585515
>
I genuinely think it's so funny how Holofags are always in constant seethe mode and always talk about Homos and Homofags are never angry and are chill and don't give a shit about anything

>>71586125
Basically this kek

>>71586125
I would be chill too if Im a Female Subsidized Male Streamer.

>>71580518
Jesus if her shoes can scream.

>>71586432
Please stop pretending you know how Cover's funds are being worked anonchama
At least go to College for accounting if you wanna larp accurately

>>71586608
Why did cover never put homos financial report in cover-note?
Because theyre always in red, they are subsidized to stay afloat
By who??????

>>71579598
damn they could have at least used the expo stage

>>71586784
>Why did cover never put homos financial report in cover-note?
Holy shit nigga speak the Queen's tongue and stop blowing a gasket
>Because theyre always in red
I would love for proof of this, seriously. But I already know the proof is
>Because there is no proof then my claim is magically right!

>>71586125
And yet Homofags run into these bait threads every single time to defend their losers.

>>71587084
If we wanna be realistic the ones not making a bunch of money to play games (you and me and everyone here) are losers, not them. You're just on /vt/ pissing yourself

>>71579598
Yagoo, please just hire a cool brochuuba that doesn't look like a faggot if you want a massive male audience. I want a chuuba moshpit so bad.

>>71586999
>I would love for proof of this
It's been a year and no one has showed any even in /#/
There will never be proof of this

>>71586999
"Crying wolf" mode already?
Let me tell you the future of homos
>Last years fest they have 4 segment and a huge booth
>This year 2 segment with a side booth
>Next year Regloss will replace them and will be sideline because you FAGS only consume and never give back!

>>71581489
This is still the only level headed opinion I've seen since their inception

>>71587174
>Bunch of money
Exactly how much money do the stars get paid? It's true that I have to work a "traditional" job but I'm not hurting for money and best of all I don't have to act the faggot in front of a live audience of ugly cows.

>>71587390
Ok anon but again, do you have proof of
>Because theyre always in red, they are subsidized to stay afloat
Like anything? Anything at all?
This would literally prove you right and I would kneel if you could show me anything of this. Please don't deflect and like, actually show proof of your entire central claim.
No, not hypotheticals and headcanons, like actual proof of what you said.

>>71587618
>and best of all I don't have to act the faggot in front of a live audience of ugly cows.
Yea you get to act like a faggot obsessing over other faggots on /vt/ lmao

>>71587174
I make goodshit on crypto though
>Already 10x and the bullrun just started
Dont compare me to you, I bought holomerch and fest ticket without crying about how expensive they are.

>>71587793
>on crypto
This anon is Larping

>>71579598
to be honest, doesn't this show that yagoo does understand that they will never get anywhere?

>>71587618
>Exactly how much money do the stars get paid?
You're stupid if you're gonna pretend they don't make at least $70-80k a year

>>71587920
Stars have been growing since their debut contrary to what anons would like to believe and there's literal proof from /#/fags for it
So clearly they're going somewhere

>>71587668
So you want me to access covers private account info?
The fact that they never put homos financial report is a proof itself that homos arent profitable that will only stain Covers overall financial report.

>"Show me God or I wont believe him" mentality
Thats why homos arent successful, because they cater to poor retards like you

>>71587759
you're calling yourself a faggot? Because now I'm obsessing over you faggots that rush in to defend them everytime people make a shit post about them. If you really didn't care you'd laugh that they get a tiny screen instead of going all "A-achtually they are successful!!" and taking every joke up the ass.

>>71580339
I want to line up every Homo and Niji male and then fire through them with a 20mm Anti Material Rifle.

>>71580518
would.

>>71588039
>So you want me to access covers private account info?
Nigger you made the claim they're in the red so I assume you got it from somewhere. Why else would you say that if you don't know if it's true other than you just want to lie? You LITERALLY said it first and now you're saying you can't prove what you're saying

>>71587390
Theyre done I guess
Hololive is healing

>>71588192
Tell Cover to release the "high Income homos financial report" then
Again why arent they putting in on Covers-note?
Companies always hide their unproductive activities to make their portfolio look good to investors

>>71588416
Anon you can't lie to your investors. They know what's going on. So clearly you don't REALLY don't know what the fuck you're on about

>>71585023
i will never forgive mori ame and kronii for trying to push that homoshit into hololive. things wouldve been so different if they actually pulled off that t3mpus propaganda

>>71588538
>you cant lie your investor
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Good joke retard

>>71588643
Based /biz/larper

>>71588538
nta but investors are retarded fucks that only listen to the bottom line and immediately withdraw their money without understanding what the fuck is happening the second they hear that there might be any possibility of reduced profit.

>>71587920
Like another anon said (that seemingly very dumb anons can't understand):
The goal isn't be "be as big as or better than Holo girls". It never was. Only idiots think this. It's to be "as big as or better than other competition in THAT market".

Obviously the Male and Female markets are different. You're fucking dumb if you think otherwise.
The goal is to be others in the Male market, and as much as people want to cry about it, they've done it. Sure as hell are bigger than the Niji males (and even most of the Niji girls) or First Stage or anyone else. As for indies I don't know but the few Male Indies I do know are bigger than Holo girls and I'm sure no one wants to talk about that.
The only Males Vtubers they haven't "beaten" I'd say are the super huge NijiJP males.

>tl;dr
"never going anywhere" is just an ignorant claim if you wanna just ignore reality and their actual growth.

>>71588732
>t.Moving goalpost to hide the fact that homos are Female Subsidized Male Streamer
Cant wait for next years fest when homos are completely replace by re:gloss

>>71580518
Jim Sterling

>>71579598
Delete this!

>>71589043
Adding onto this they literally were announced when Niji did theirs right? Like 30 mins after? They're literally a result of direct competition for a market lol

>>71579598
Didnt Starsfest was cancelled last year because they didnt generate profit last 2022 fest?

>>71589538
What are you talking about anonchama.
These guys didn't even exist until late last year

>>71589538
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1768880482073321789?s=20
Looks like thy have generated profits now cuase they have a live event this June.

>>71581489
Based and sensible take

>>71589538
They don't have the 3rd act concert but cover have given a paid concert for thier 5th anniversary

>>71589853
A yes I forgot its two different events

>>71579598
Nice try, but check this out.
As for EN, all of Tempus is having 3D soon.

>>71582773
they're ugly on the inside.

>>71581489
You're too smart for the retards on this board anon leave while you can

>>71584438
>competing with holo females
with chink bots btw

>>71589043
if they do think like that, they would never try to invade the girls space to promote them. Especially when there's little to no audience overlap between them.

>>71591119
>It's their fault the girls jumped on them instantly
Until I see proof, no anon, your oshi just loves males and is a whore. No one forced anything, give it up.
>Especially when there's little to no audience overlap
Stop pretending to be retarded

>>71591119
>invade

>>71591119
>They invaded
Ame Mori Kronii Bae Zeta Kobo and Ollie immedie- >>71591436
Yea, they instantly jumped on their cocks at debut anon.
If you really wanna say they were "forced" then how come no others did?
Holo isn't Blackiesanji they all have a choice you know

>>71579598
They need to kill the homostars

>>71590384
Thats a Cover yearly mandate
What you need to show is the cancelled 3rd act

>>71591578
Ollie is the fucking worst for that shit, she still tries to push Hololive towards that direction.
Mori less so these days, don't get me wrong, if she has the chance to make a homo collab happen she'll jump right on that cock like a mad ape.
Theres certainly a part of her thats still mind broken though after getting pumped for content and dumped by both Trash taste and those 2 Homo rejects.
Only reason I don't bring up Bae is that she said out of the gate that she'll be making her fans third wheel.
Kobo is just a lost cause, and I think Zeta was a victim of shipping culture amongst female fans. No guy is actively shipping his oshi with a man like with what happened to her

>>71591578
>the usual suspects

>>71579598
They couldve just debuted "Project Despair" as IRyS genmate but instead they debut this males...

>>71592452
Stars is the "Despair"
So much for a Pet project that never suceeded

>>71581489
This anon gets it.

>>71585882
I don't like the homos but you overplayed yourself in the first sentence
>Sorry anon but because I'm a Holochad I still hate the homos more than I do Nijisanji
I know you're trying to smokescreen for your lord vox, but nobody is going to take the bait if you make it too obvious sister, please try again

>>71592957
How many times are you gonna reply to your own post?

>>71592436
>>71592376
Glad you both concede that the "forced" shit isn't real

>>71593231
Schizo

>>71579598
Have you thanked the shark today for this?

>>71593231
>Everyone who agrees with a point I don't like is 1 person samefagging
Lmao how insecure are you

>>71589043
>their actual growth

>>71588053
*materiel
retard

>>71593597
Well yes if you look at their numbers from their first debuts to now, they're growing.
You don't have to like it but you can't deny it. Even /#/ doesn't deny it

>>71593597
Glad you proved my post right

>>71580339
I do enjoy how homopushers have given themselves a rise over this. The NDF are idiots, yes, as they mimic their organs’ patented retardation in everything they do; this doesn’t mean that only the NDF hate beggars. Reminds me of how Frootfags think everyone that criticizes her actions is some 0.00001view basketcase or her minions, as opposed to it being genuine.

>>71593838
Why, yes, even a desolate wasteland can technically grow in size, that is true. I’m glad the various observers can come to this remarkable and astounding consensus.

>>71591436
>>71591578
>>71591493
and the nigger sister finally reveal herself

>>71594423
If that's how you want to cope then ogey anon

>>71594504
>No argument whatsoever
Lmao

>>71579598
Cool

>>71594103
No one on this board disagrees with ANY of my opinions. If they do, then it's a psy-op, or a discord raid, or a bot, or a spammer, or a troll, etc. I will go to ANY lengths on Earth to deny the idea that someone on this planet genuinely believes in something that I don't believe in.

>>71581489
Anon, nobody minds HoloStars, if Cover wants to earn a profit in that market, then so bet it. But the problem was the fact that they delayed EN3 for literally two years just because of them. There's no reason on doing this, they could debut in 2022 at the same time. It frustates the actual HoloFans who only watches girls.

Sorry guys, but I am NOT gonna defend homos just to attack Nijiniggers. I am not THAT much of a brand slave to suck gay cock for 4chan clout. I was fully capable of hating homos AND Nijis simultaneously before this, and I am NOT changing my tactics now.

>>71595300
Me

>>71595412
troll

>>71595412
At last, an oasis of sanity in this thread’s raging sandstorm of faggotry.

>>71581321
Both niji and homos will continue to fade into irrelevance and they share the same female fanbase. No amount of cope will change that.

>>71595251
They didn't do that you absolute sloppy cunt and you know it. Jesus Christ some of you are so brain dead it's astounding that you know how to put pants on.

>>71593577
G-Gura.. I kneel..

>>71595743
>fade into irrelevance
Copechama... Like 8 of the Homos are getting 3Ds right now. You're literally coping

>>71581729
>they're (vtubers) are /there/ making thousands to hundreds of thousands a month
Don't fucking remind me.
>t. wageslave

>>71581489
fucking based.
Reminder to /vt/, supply and demand exists for a reason. Stars wasn't born in a vacuum.

>>71581321
Are we still pretending there's no overlap between the female fans of male vtubers? I am glad both are failing.
>>71595412
Based.

>>71596109
You don't need to samefag my post anon I read your retardgraph the first time

>>71595412
>indog fan
>muh both sides
SEA should have been rangebanned on this board a long fucking time ago.

>>71579598
How long can Yagoo defend this shitters from investors?
On Covers note, all I see is about the girls future projects and the so called "the boiz" have zero project plans and gets only praised only become of subgrowth(which kinda obvious that it will only grow because that how subs are)

>>71597010
>defend this shitters from investors
What does he need to defend them from? Retards who don't make any actual business decisions in the company?
Do you think Holo is Niji? Are you retarded?

>>71597010
You don't know how investors work
>Zero project plans
Anon, do you think every single EN star is in Japan right now for no reason?

>>71595941
Stop acting like 3D is a magic buff. They go straight back to the 3view spot after. Uproar got 3d and outfits fast and they have a guy who dips into 2view. Just like nijis 3D isn't going to save them from irrelevance. The much smaller fanbase already is stretching itself thin to support that many dudes. And lots of "fans" don't care to watch them if they aren't collabing with a (popular) girl. They have no pull by themselves and it will get worse every year.

>>71596367
HoloID was also beating NijiEN. Shouldn't you be supporting them too, the same way you support the homos for the same reason? Hell, it's all girls, so we won't even call you a faggot for doing so.

>>71597010
>INVESTORS PLESE SAVE MEEEEEEE
Lmao you stupid fucking retard.

>>71597368
They already lost their live venue concert last year and this year. They literally can't afford to waste that kind of money on them. they are losing custom merch as well and costs are being cut for jp a lot. Cover gave them a lot but no business is a charity.

>>71598609
Anonchama read the thread

>>71595251
Or... They had a hard time finding candidates. You ever thought of the reason why they have segregated talent recruitments? Get your head out of the shitter.

>>71580339
>only nijifags hate homos
The entire board celebrated when holo pests got the boot. your subversion is pathetic

>>71600861
Globalbabies aren't the entire board copechama

>>71580339
This is retarded, I hate both nijimales and the homos for the same reasons

>>71587174
>a bunch of money
>a bunch
Lmao

>>71580339
I have enough in me to hate you homobeggars and nijisisters.
>>71595412
based, nijisisters think they're changing anything when it always been like this.

>>71601409
Yes anon and you acting smug without any proof or counterargument otherwise doesn't just make it untrue

>>71581075
>Implying Nijisisters even care about Petra

>>71582060
>they managed to fuck up the one they already had
No they didn't, as much as you've deluded yourself into thinking so because you come on here every day and see 50 posts on the catalog about the homo every hour.

>>71585023
Thank goodness that asshole Omega got kicked out. A full Nijification of Hololive would've a huge slap in the face to actual Hololive fans.

>wanting Homos to be fired
>when they are the litmus test for whether Cover has turned into a black company
>when they exist to be Cover's entry into the male vtuber market
>when they are doing fine for the most part
>when they are the ones most well positioned to show up to a lot of e-celeb gaming tournaments to spread the Holo name out further(high gaming skills+relatively open schedule compared to any of the Hologirls)
>when they have much lower operation costs than Hololive due to much less corpo-activities

>>71603745
>high gaming skills
My sides can’t take jests of this magnitude

>>71604141
>Holostars won the biggest vtuber fall guys tournament
>Holostars got both 2nd place and 3rd place in the last Vsaikyou
>Holostars is the group with most masters in SF6, even more than nijisanji despite them having 200 livers
yeah...?

>>71604141
Haven't every tournament the girls were in they got stomped hard while the males have placed high.

>>71595251
>NOBODY MINDS HOMOS
Yeah, as long they stay in their lanes. If they ever try to get chummy with the girls then I'm gonna anti them hard.

>>71606026
>If they ever try to get chummy with the girls then I'm gonna cry on /vt/ hard.
Lmao

>>71595412
Based.
Fuck Nijimales, and fuck Holomales too.

>>71593657
... No, material is the correct spelling, you ESL monkey.

>>71604141
This nigga forgot the Overwatch tournament lmao

>>71603745
Obvious homobeggar is obvious

>>71606211
And what are you gonna do? Beg ever harder?

>>71607088
When did I say I'd do that? You said you're gonna cry harder lol, don't project on me

>>71580339
Retarded NDF trash gave homobeggars a great opportunity to shill the homos.

>>71595794
>>71600404
Shit out more dumb cope, you dumb fucks. Cover literally did just that because they don't want them to be forgotten too fast cause of new girls. Remember uproar and ID3? Uproar was long forgotten due to ID3. Who the fuck even thinks giving 2 years for StarsEN was a bright idea when your main product are girls.
>Having a hard time finding candidates
LMAO, Biboo, nerissa are nobodies. They could take in nobodies and turn them into superstars.

>>71607365
Okay, homobeggar.

>>71580339
oh great now homofags are gonna use this an excuse to post homos everywhere

>>71607655
>Being made he got exposed
Lmao

>>71589270
fucking christ that was my exact first thought as well.

>>71607395
>>71607655
It’s fine, no one will really buy it anyways.

>>71593657
ESLchama....

>>71595897
>CGDCT squad doing their thing
>Homo enablers recoiling in fear
Kino.

>>71593657
>Homobeggar
>SEA monkey ESL
lol retard

>>71594504
>AAAAIIEIEIEEIEIEIE YOU ARE NIJI SISTERS
nice arguement also
homobeggar = NDF

>>71603745
>when they are the litmus test for whether Cover has turned into a black company
This is the only point I agree with. As long as the Homos remain supported, it means that Cover isn't just prioritizing the bottom line. On the flip side, if things ever do go bad, knock on wood, then the EN Homos will be the first to get cut loose. That's reason enough to keep them around, since it gives the girls at least one save in that downturn scenario.

>>71606237
There's no such thing as an anti-MATERIAL rifle. You're thinking of anti-MATERIEL. Materiel, as in military hardware and structures, which is what you might be shooting at with an AMR.

>>71610348
>EN Homos will be the first to get cut loose
I mean yea this would be true if we keep pretending it costs an astronomical amount to run a vtuber and this "stealing resources" fanfic is real.
Otherwise, no. That's just not happening, even if Cover becomes blacker than Africa.
Also, no. It'd be the JPs. The ENs are all bigger than the JPs, no matter how you wanna cope.

>>71607491
I know you're just baiting sis but I'll reply to this because some other hapless retard might swing by and fall for it
They took their time with EN3 because they didn't want a repeat of EN2. They obviously rushed things and it blew up in their face. They waited and made sure their selections were rock solid and what did they end up with? Arguably one of the best gens in years. It was worth the wait, now stop cucking up the thread and go outside and touch grass, sister.

>>71609650
>>71610009
See >>71610843

>>71606237
>>71609650
>>71610009
Actual retards in this thread, god damn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-materiel_rifle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materiel

>They are irrelavent
>They are sexpests
>They have no money
>They have no fans
>They have no love from the girls (like me)
>Now watch me not talking about them and call them Homos on a daily basis

It's been years and I still don't understand the point of a male vtuber

>>71612195
People need to be constantly reminded, especially cover

>>71612314
>>71581489

>>71612314
they attract the toxic twitter audience that doesn't watch streams or buy merch, and judging by homostars outstanding success* they succeeded

>>71610872
>>71610872
>Not wanting to rush things
>Repeat the same mistake for Tempus
>Time between audition and actual debut were just 6 months for Tempus
>Time between myth and council was 1 year
>2 graduated from Tempus within a year
>1 graduates from Council within a year
shut the fuck up, homobeggar

>>71612385
And what is your reward, anon?

>>71581489
You don't ask question like this in this retarded sex depraved mental asylum

>>71595251
>they delayed EN3 for literally two years just because of them
And yet, after this whole time, this only has been something found here, nowhere else.

>>71613255
The damage they did to hololive with that shit vastly outweighed any perceived profits they could ever hope to bring

>>71608690
what the fuck are you talking about? what is being made? some kind of rrat?

>>71612195
Homobeggar copium doesn't count

>>71612993
By this logic you should graduate every holo less popular than bettel.

Beggars can't be choosers. Stop shilling your homos.

>>71580518
holy shit i just noticed the holes in her fishnets
they literally cant hold together KEK

>>71592376
What happened with Zeta? I thought all ID hung out with the homos by default.

>Have no argument
>Resort to shit-flinging words like Homo and Begger
lol
lmao
kek

Look at this fucking thread, I just can't grasp how people can get so upset about some anime males, like they would literally combust into flame if any holostar get 1000m too close to their oshi, constantly thinking about dicks and seeth endlessly, I wouldn't have a problem with that if you just stay mad in your corner, but you fucks gotta shit up the community with you fucking bullshit too like STFU! you making thing so fucking sad and awkward for everyone else, we don't care, the vtubers don't care, I myself don't even remember any of the holostar's names, they don't live rent free in my head, not that hard really, god you guys are pathetic.

>>71613331
Nta but constant reminder always good since people have a memory of a goldfish. And history always tend to repeat itself when they given a pass.

>>71613639
Yeah, EN3 and EN4 in 2022 and 2023 would've earned them a lot of money. HoloStarsEN would've just been extra profit. The fact that they've delayed HoloEN for them was stupid knowing it wouldn't do shit like how no one was watching Uproar 3D debut despite the ban on streams from all branches.

>>71581489
Their whole brand is being a little brother to hololive without that they lose three quarters of their fanbase

Why don't they get to perform in the expo? I'd be fine with it as long as they got their own stage without being inserted into the girls' stages. Is it just not worth the expense?

>>71620602
Ok, and? They still make some sort of profit. That post still stands.
The objective is to make a profit. Who cares about the branding? In fact, why would they not brand themselves that way? It works. What is the argument here?

>>71595251
Absolutely obsessed.

>>71590569
Who dis?

>>71613255
>>71613639
>>71620480
You lost, get over it.

>>71581489
This
if you can make a niche profitable then why the fuck not do it?

>>71621621
Doesn't look like it lmao >>71579598

>>71622617
Doesn't look at it lmao >>71581489