/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

shut the fuck up she's debuting in 3D RIGHT NOW
https://youtu.be/y_YO0LLXYr4

She got 20k at the moment.

>>71464907
Holo fag here, she will be fine, she's at 15k and and gaining right now, all the long silence boosted her, nijifan are starved for anything, good for her.

She's doing fine it looks like. Happy for her. She didn't deserve to be in that shitty company and I'm glad the overlap between audiences is less than I expected.

>>71465411
the petra IP didn't deserve to be sold to niji either

>NIJISANJI EN
>stream is jap
overseas expansion is over

I don't watch Petra outside of collabs, does she always have had a larger proportion of JP fans compared to EN fans? Majority of the superchats and most of the comments are all in Japanese right now.

>>71467403
It happened after she moved to Japan, which I think was about two years ago, but I can't remember.

>>71467403
she lives in japan and speaks japanese like half the time. her frequency to speak japanese filtered quite a bit of EOPs

>>71467403
half the joke behind the existence of Anya-Petra Global is that they streamed a lot in JP instead of ID and EN

>They actually made the skit of The Clique bullying and humiliating her
You can't make this shit up

Really, they got Riku and Millie on stream.
They really set her up for failure

>>71467392
Is she seriously streaming in japanese right now?
S-sisters? Our response? I thought the dogs were supposed to be doing that!
>>71468189
To be fair, that was basically her role since debut.

>>71467392
She is definitely relaying A LOT on JP support and you can see the chat, also the Fes is talking a bit to start.
23k isn’t big for a 3D but it’s far woerse than predicted. Good she didn’t get completely mogged.

Petra is doing fine. She got 24k CCV during holofes so that's respectable. No one wants to watch her get mogged.

the numbers kept dropping ever since 3thyria showed up from 24.5k then dipping to 23.3k

>>71467392
She's the fuwamoco of niji en.

>>71468496
It's her usual collab stream numbers.
These are terrible for a 3D debut

They really got everyone that is radioactive on stream

bully jumpscare

i actually like petra though

>>71469425
I mean, they just got everyone. Imagine having Ethyria and Luxiem appear and then not Elira. That would have been her death sentence if so.
It’s more like they are using Petra as the battering ram to get into JP here.

>>71469425
I think it ended up being the perfect number.
its high enough that is good for her as a person.

But its too low for Nijisanji to capitalize on it.

>>71469425
I'm not watching, did Elira really show up? I think it's the first time she's been on a stream in over a month.

>>71469425
Bro 23k is not a typical petra collab ccv

>>71464907
Is it weird that I’m glad Perta is doing well? I just can’t hate the other two in OBSYDIA. I feel like the board wants me to hate them but I wanna wish them the best. Anyways, everyone underestimates OBSYDIA. They besides Pomu are the best Shittysanji has. Selen, Rosemi, and Petra are/were underdogs.

>>71469892
Yep, she's there. She's not dead yet at least.

>>71469892
prerecorded from last year but yes she made an appearance.

>>71469641
She's cute. I see why you like her

>>71469746
Explains the JP segment

>>71469765
Holo Stage 1 starts in 15 mins. We'll see if there's a drop off

>>71469892
On the screen as 2D with everyone else. A nothingburger for now. As everyone else said all this is proving is that she can still make it out of this mess but ghe radioactivity got to it + Fes now activating.
Not even reachin 25k is grim. Kronii’s birthday nukes her as far as I know. Could have made 30k without the FES.

>>71469425
> Elira has 3D
> Said she is in Japan
> Did not show up in 3D with Petra

What did she mean by this ?

>>71470069
Considering how she openly associates with that bitch Enna to the point of making a group with her that even had costumes, 100% yes it's weird to feel genuinely glad for her.

Rosemi all alone, sad

>>71469892
elira did show up on petra's 3D debut stream, but its painful to watch since uki did show up here and shu.

>>71470258
It’s pre-recorded dude, Rosemi is not even in Japan. This may be Petra’s bridge to fully move to JP however.

…the fuck I just watched? Did she literally…

>>71470251
Honestly, 20k is far more than I expected given the circumstances.
Petra is doing well

>>71471009
Everyone always underestimates OBSYDIA

>>71469425
23k is normal? What was the rosemi petra numbers then? Was it just a seriously bad one-off? Damn she's a bigger fish than I thought. Great job, penguin.

>>71470069
Yes you fucking beta cuck

>>71472682
Why

>>71470069
If you want black companies to keep growing and mistreating their employees to the point of committing unalive then ok you do you

>>71467392
For someone with JP fanbase, the # is grim

GURA KILLER LETSGOOOO

>>71470221
Oh my god please take your shoes off Peto, dear lord.

Can someone explain this to me? Why does it only say 3k views? It usually updates immediately to the total.

>>71465192
yikes

>>71475044
bc bots only count towards ccv and get filtered out from actual views

>>71472231
lol
lmao even

>>71470477
Selfish Selen should've just show up baka.

>>71475231
Is this actually the case?

>all akas are Japanese
>very JP stream overall
I guess the EN > JP transfer is happening after all. But it's better for her streaming career so that's fine I guess.

>>71476243
It looks weird. It's at 7k now. It was at 4.5k a bit ago.
What's going on? I know twitch doesn't usually take in views until after the stream is over, but youtube counts them even while it's running.

>>71476626
>get stuck in nijisanji forever
Is that a fate you want her to take? Worse than dead.

oof what a shame, couldn't even beat out a fucking steam sale stream

>>71475231
AIEEEEE SISTERS DONT LOOK

So what was the max ccv? low to mid 20k?

>>71477339
Arguably better than Elira being forever trapped in limbo, at least JP gets nore care, even if they have to take care of bullying by themselves in there as well.

>>71477719
24.7k I believe. Respectable considering the circumstances but less than 2400 dollars. These things usually earn a lot more. My only concern is I didn't see Rosemi there? Did I miss her?

>>71477608
Please don’t falseflag. Doki had nothing against Petra and her gen-mates. At least compare with other 3Ds.
Having said that it is kinda grim, but not the nuclear option we all saw. She also got lucky and started instantly while Holofes took a bit.
If JP transfer is real she will be fine, if she graduates too. But definitely Riku can get yeeted, this is a nothingburger for the investors.

>>71478273
I believe she did make a appearance, not in 3D though.

>>71477608
OK that's actually grim.
>>71477719
>>71475231
Could it actually be botted? I don't know anything about numberfag shit and they're all focused on holofes so I don't know if anyone cares enough to look into it.

>>71478273
She was briefly there at the end of the challenges by herself and before the songs.

>>71478273
She appeared in 2D on the tv, only her of course. Makes me wonder again why separated, I get not a song but not even toghether?
Rosemi’s debut will be interesting.

>>71465152
>14k CCV
That's a lot more than I would have expected given the competition.

>>71478215
Elira is becoming JP too though.
Yes, US expansion is dead. Yes, the stock price will drop even further. But they'll focus on JP market and slowly improve domestically I believe.

>>71478563
>Skip to Wosemi debut
>Petra is nowhere to be seen.

>>71478497
There are bot filters but just botting her for measily 24k is grim as fuck. That is no number to brag about for a 3D debut. Under normal circumstances you get at least double.

If the view don't transfer into money it doesn't matter.

>>71467403
idk if its still a thing but back in the day when petra debuted people were making fun of her that shes nijijp and her eigo is jouzu

>>71478756
Actually, they did sing in japanese the entire time right? Feels too perfectly appropriate. Riku can’t save stocks with this, so he can know just play the card of having talents who can make JP cash and starts the transfer.

>>71478756
JP is dying though. The big name top JPs are reclining and financials are only increasing through sheer quantity of new vtubers. It's not sustainable, not like riku cares though.

>Before
>It won't even hit 10k!!!!
>After
>T-Those numbers aren't good anyways!!!!

>>71478215
NOOOOOO. I BELIEVE IN ELIRA CHAN. CUT YOUR MOUTH UP WITH THAT BULLSHIT RRAT. SHE HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG. I'LL FOLLOW HER UNTIL THE VERY END. SEEING HER TODAY IS ENOUGH TO MAKE ME HAPPY! I CAN SLEEP WELL TOMORROW NOW.

>>71476851
>bot dont count as views
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>>71479404
JP is not growing but it’s far more stable than EN, and when shit doesn’t work, you downsize and stabilize. You can bear down Q4 much easier if you don’t need to explain what you are gonna do with a branch you already axed.
Then once the waters have calmed down, you expand again where it looks profitable. Very likely homos to SEA. Thry did sign a deal with vietnam cons.

>>71478273
Bot dont superchat
Please understand

>>71479780
You just will have to adjust to JTS and you can see her again.

>>71479500
Only made $2300 though

>>71479500
Well apparently, if we're counting actual humans watching, it didn't.
>>71476851

>>71477608
Petra got mogged by BOTH tempiss 3ds... HOLY GRIMOTHY

>>71478756
Riku already promised western expansion and named it as a key area of growth so the stock price will become utter trash tier if they give up on EN.

>>71478273
Oof, is that respectable? I don't feel like it is, to be honest. It was only the 4th 3D debut of NijiEN, it should be huge. It goes to show the actual state of NijiEN.

>>71478324
It's not about whether or not Doki likes her or doesn't. It's a decent benchmark. It shows how unwilling people still are to support NijiEN. Even I'm actually starting to believe that the branch is in a critical state despite being sure that the show would go on eventually no matter what.

>>71479879
>SEA
>ONLY VIETNAM AND INDONESIA ARE REMARKABLE
How would they profit from poor countries? That's the worst decision someone could make. Either try to go back to EN with a whole new policy and better management and contracts. What are they trying to achieve expanding to SEA?

>>71479500
My dude, it was all Japanese fans for the most part. Petra's re-debuting and building an audience for the inevitable folding of EN.

>>71479500

>>71480259

She got less in supas than EITHER of the tempus boys... CCV doesn't pay the bills (or lets your boss reach his 10 billion yen Q4 quota...)

>>71480259
did they also mogged Enna's birthday?

>moving the goalposts after getting btfo
Just give up. It's over. Take the L and move on.

>>71480259
GRIM GRIM GRIM

didn't she get like 25k at one point? thats pretty good

>>71480950
If we count BOTH her concert and her birthday stream together, She beat axel... but not altare

>>71480449
Don’t look at me, but let’s be real, the one thing they have over Holo is eastern homo success. They already made a point of it in their presentation too. Keeping EN up will only serve to sink it unless they spent all April doing 3D debuts and we know that’s not a thing happening. They need respinses fast and downsizing to rebalance the market is a good strategy to stop a free fall, the investors know you are cutting cost and focusing on profit.

>>71481039

>>71477608
>>71480259
>>71481271

CCV doesn't pay the bills.. NijiEN is being mogged by both doki AND fucking holostars, It has never been more over for them

>>71481136
I don’t think she did and ghat’s far from good. Reminder she should be compared to Council based on gens but that would be too brutal.

>>71480303
They can have their cake and eat it too, especially if they want to run a tightly controlled ship. They can fold everything back into JP but have the whole branch be international while continuing their "international expansion". This solves the problem of having EN's shitty numbers be hidden by their overall growths while rolling the metaphorical gacha for international talents that will be their next golden goose. Talents like Kotoka and Meloco are clear evidence that they don't really care about the nomenclature that they attach between the talents and the associated branch. If you consider the leaked contract allegations to be true, then you get the added bonus of consolidating control into JP to fuck with the talents at their leisure.

>>71478661
Note that that’s only about 40% more than Doki got for her stream tonight where she was doing nothing but buying games on steam for 2 hours.

>>71481727
Nah, she'd still be myth considering how close lazu and obsydia was. They were the same talent pool and Petra herself was almost in Finana's slot.

>>71464907
>But they didn't account for the Kindergarten program that Holo Expo is running for another 30 minutes, which is currently having 80k+ CCV
The what?

So she performed like shit as expected and they had to pull the BELO JOGOs out.

>>71482357
Holofes runs a bunch of free programs before the actual thing starts. The preshow thing took place in a kindergarten.

>>71482357
Fabuki, Aqua, Miko, and La+ doing some weird kid roleplay thing.

>>71481868
Kronii's birthday concert had DOUBLE the CCV and 4x the superchats..., And hers was the WEAKEST of the three out of Bae IRyS and herself

>>71481823
>give up on the west and conserve strength for the next several years while their largest competitor takes over completely
Yeah the stock is going to trash.

>>71464907
>who

>>71481685
In fairness, Petra was never the most popular/superchated member of Obsydia. That said, it's still fucking ridiculous that Anycolor thought it was a good idea for Petra to go up against one of the most anticipated vtubing events this month. Hopefully they don't have Rosemi's overlap Suisei's birthday stream otherwise it'd be a double whammy.

>>71482690
Yes, this is the problem. If Anycolor was a 100% privately owned company by Riku and had no other investors and wasn't publicly traded, they absolutely could stumble along for years in Japan.

The problem is they ARE publicly traded and there are going to be a lot of angry investors wanting to know why their EN branch collapsed and why their shares in the company have become worthless.

>>71482953
Indo SWEEP

>>71483063
You don't do a Stock Split, Buyback, AND loan margin trading all within a year if your goal is to limp along and be "stable". He can still technically Unsplit the stock, But i don't think that would help him at this point in terms of recovering numbers

>>71479032
niji even cheaped out on their bots budget...
They should have just splurged out considering what might happen on monday

the saddest part of this 3D is that it was reshot from the ground up at the last fucking second and pushed out in under a week.
Release the Tatsuki Cut, Anycolor. We want to see Petra and Rosemi's ACTUAL 3D debuts.

>>71475044
>It usually updates immediately to the total.
It never has

>>71470258
Obviously Elira is in hiding. The moment she pops her head up out of her hidey hole, it's gonna get absolutely smashed in by anti's.

>>71483687
Nah the only part they refilmed was probably the rosemi segment, Everything with elira was done MONTHS ago, and presumably that also means the rest of it was done months ago too, But i guess we'll have to see rosemi's 3d to be really sure

>>71470258
She sang in 3d with petra atleast.. probably done months and months ago tho

>>71482690
>>71483063
What I'm getting at is really the nomenclature. We are past the point of "saving" the EN branch in a realistic manner of speaking. By folding in, they can invent a strawman management to kill and say that they are continuing international expansion. Make no mistake that this is a good move, but the best of the shit moves that they've set themselves up for. Instead of having a relatively good graph for JP and an extremely shit graph for EN, they have a singular "international" graph that says that they are growing and doing "better", letting the actual performance of the EN leg be hidden by the data. Will they actually try to improve their international prospects? Probably not, and EN will go the way of IN, ID, and KR, but it arrests the bleeding enough for the investors to not kill the company NOW. Obscure and redefining data, that's how companies that seem like they should have died ages ago are able to persist, especially because investors never take the time to actually look at data themselves and rely on the equivalent of an amazon AI summary.

>>71484011
>Nah the only part they refilmed was probably the rosemi segment,
All the TV room portions were definitely reshoots. Petra would have included others from exKR, exID, and JP for at least one of those call-ins, but it was all EN including a 2D Elira despite her having a 3D segment in the stream

>>71484411
The only problem with that is the stock is very likely to tank AGAIN on monday, It's too late for any maneuvers or moves, They are the O N L Y jp company since peak covid to hit the breakers, And their Q&A responses to questions about selen and EN were... literally nothing, The loan margin rule means they are stuck in a downward spiral if they drop even a TINY bit more, If they drop below 2k they seriously run the risk of being delisted.. and then it's GG

>>71484411
>investors never take the time to actually look at data themselves
My dude they don't even look at the shitty slides force fed them. They somehow predict this madssive 4Q growth while the very next couple of slides show how Q4 has been historically worse than Q3 literally every year dating back to '21.

>>71485462
Q4 is probably going to be their worst quarter PERIOD since they started, Investors can see the writing on the wall. The money is dried up, VTA got deleted off youtube literally the SAME DAY as the Q3 report which highlighted VTA as a source of future growth... which is.. not good

>>71485069
>the risk of being delisted
Not a /biz/ anon, what does this mean? Riku stops being a billionaire since his stocks are worth less, so what? Kuzuha and salom still make the big bucks.

>>71486675
It means they need to liquidate their asserts in order to pay back everybody who still owns stocks, Essentially a FORCED buyback of 100% of what's on the market at the time of being delisted, BASICALLY it means refunds on the stocks, And considering all the liquidation they got from their stock split... that is gonna be really bad

>>71487270
SELEN IP, PETRA IP, ELIRA IP, ROSEMI IP, ZAION IP. QUICK!!!

>>71487270
That's literally not what being delisted means AT ALL, A quick google search brought back this.

What Happens to a Stock (& Its Investors) Once It Is Delisted?
When a stock is delisted for failing to meet requirements, it doesn’t just disappear. Instead, it begins to trade on the over-the-counter (OTC) market, which is a less-centralized network of stock dealers that facilitate transactions of stocks that aren’t listed on major exchanges (e.g., penny stocks).

If an investor owns a stock, but that stock gets delisted, they still own the stock, but its value is likely to decline significantly. Mandatory delisting is usually viewed as a sign of financial distress and can sometimes signal a forthcoming bankruptcy, which tends to decimate a stock’s value.

That being said, delisted stocks can continue to trade for years on the OTC market, but investors may have a harder time selling them, as the OTC market is characterized by wide bid-ask spreads and low trading volume. Institutional investors tend to avoid stocks that aren’t on major exchanges, which is part of why trading volume is so low on the OTC market.

>>71486675
>>71487270
Not Japanese or any level of financial expert, but as I understand it, the effects of delisting depend on the way that the delisting occurs, i.e. not meeting the exchange metrics or voluntarily deciding to do so. What I can reiterate that has already been said is that regardless of the flavor of delisting, especially given the circumstances around it, it's a horrific look, especially for investors and other financial institutions. Larger companies typically don't have much freely floating capital and rely on loans and the like, but a company with shit stock or otherwise completely delisted won't get any favorable rates, which will make their ability to conduct business... substantially more difficult.

>>71487540
Imagine this would actually be a thing, some oil baron dragoon snatches up Selen's IP and offers it to Doki free of charge. Do you think she'd take it? Or too much baggage associated?

>>71488192
She'd probably do a skit of dyeing selen yellow and using the model for an annual april fools stream

What on earth was going on with the penguin sacrifice ritual?
NijiEN wave 2 btw.

>>71488192
Compulsory liquidation would be ghe dream as the company would dissolve, then all NDAs would be nullified by Party A ceasing to exist.
It would be a big shook to the Vtubers world, definitely needed imho. Especially if the IPs go wildly around, cultire in Japan may turn south and start making taboo other things.
Honestly I would like for the Vtubers to actually own their model, things get so weird at times, feels the industry is gonna suffer in appeal with these constant changes.

>>71489216
Ahh so it really was projection from the sisters when they were shitting on FWMC for... their less than a dozen JP collabs and 2 week vacation

>>71489216
Wut?
She did kinda weak but not completely shit numbers, she didn’t get humiliated but at the same time is gonna make investors yawn.
Thing was however extremely JP pandering which suggest Riku is really considering hiding EN into JP for Q4 and redebuting clean of filth on September.

>>71490230
Talking about the fact that her chat was nearly entirely japanese. Kind of hilarious for a word cloud for an EN branch to be so... not english.

>>71489216
>Penguin Sacrifice Ritual to the right side of Noot Noot

>>71490230
>redebuting
It will be males only this time and called NijiStars. Calling it now.

>>71490230
It made less money then a homo 3d showcase

>>71490509
Yeah, as I said incredibly JP pandering, even the past collabs too. I don’t get what is that for if not for a merge.
Riku surely is not trying to syphon views from JP to EN? That would be kinda stupid.

>>71489216
>Penguin Sacrifice Ritual
Kek meme magic wins again

>>71490750
It made less money than watching doki buy steam games...., Enna's BIRTHDAY CONCERT made less money than homostars 3D debuts... and a piece of paper lol

>>71491560
To be fair, Doki hasn't earned a cent from youtube yet. She still hasn't gotten her code in the mail so she's gotten 0 money from Youtube until that arrives.

>>71491740
?? the heck does that mean

>>71492516
Nta but she was explaining in the last stream that to access your adsense account YouTube sends you a code via actual mail, she's still not received the code yet.

>>71492516
For some reason YT requires you to input a code they send through PHYSICAL mail to unlock their revenue, apparently? It's supposed to take 3 weeks to get it and it's been over a month so she had to request another be sent.

>>71492516
Apparently in order to actually receive money from youtube she needs some shit that's coming in the mail, but it's been over 3 weeks since she's requested it. She went over it during the steam sale stream but she'd be kind of screwed for income right now if she wasn't already setting up the merch store by the time she "redebuted."

>>71493319
She got like 30k sent to her via streamlabs/twitch on her redebut, She also won cash from the palworld and apex tournaments too, Hopefully she'll get her dumb adsense sorted out soon tho

>>71491740
>>71492946
>>71492991
>>71493319
To be FAIRER that is still better than having to pay the Niji split

>>71494925
Yeah, she did also make a comment about how she didn't realise how much money you can make from merch. Which is slightly sad as well when you think about it.

>>71495313
Even crazier if you take into the fact that she makes a lot of the merch by hand.

>>71490509
>>71490230
I realize /vt/ doesn't actually watch streams but Petra has always been JP-pandering from day 1 (Debi is her favourite Niji) so you can't say for certain if this is grand strategy vs.just what Petra wanted to do. Wait until how Rosemi's 3D goes next week before jumping to any conclusions.

>>71495965
I watched it frim beginning to the very end. It was fun... and sad. Up until this point I'll choose to believe in all of them. People used to attack Sayu for one whole year. Then Selen, up until she became Dokibird they didn't apologize but directing their hatred towards the other ones painted as enemies not knowing they were ones themselves. It's kinda shitty behaviour repeating mistakes again and again.

>>71478324
if Doki had nothing against them she wouldnt have tried to ruin their careers and lives. spiteful cunt

>>71498484
She didn't. She tried to leave quietly. She never attacked them. Nijisanji brought this whole PR nightmare on themselves because they couldn't shut the fuck up and let her go without trying to rip her arms off on the way out.

>>71498484
They ruined themselves timelooping retard, We're not gonna go through this same song and dance where you trot out all the endlessly debunked bullshit

You people are insane. All week long it's nijiEN is dead, Petra won't get 10k blah blah. One of the tiniest shitter runts, DURING HOLOFES FFS, got very solid numbers. Would it kill you to just pay her on the back and say good job? Not everything has to be bad 24/7, fuck.

>>71498790
They wanted to make an example
>if you tried to leave, we would tear you apart
Sadly, it backfired.

>>71499079
If you actually read the thread you'd see most people are saying exactly that. The only people being hostile are the sisters and people telling the sisters to eat shit.

>>71499079
*pat

>>71499079
Not when you get less money then homostars during a 3d debut.

>>71498484
NijiEN did that entirely by itself. It was NijiEN that first mentioned bullying, it was NijiEN that claimed it was other livers who were part of the bullying, and it's been NijiEN that has for the past two months have been causing PR disaster after PR disaster. Doki did nothing to them.

>>71499079

>>71489216
>>71480259
>>71477608

She got mogged in supas by doki buying steam games, 90% of her chat was in JP, Almost all of the supas she DID get were in yen, She isn't NijiEN, she is an as of yet to be folded in NijiJP, and a middling one at that

>>71495965
>Wait until how Rosemi's 3D goes next week before jumping to any conclusions
it's going to be worse bro
Did you not see how long it took for her to hit 500k subs

>>71499079
now imagine how well she could've done if she wasn't intentionally sabotaged by a shitty black company

>>71470258
dumbfuck they had a 3D duet toward the end

>>71464907
>who

>>71500612
"gura killer"

>>71477608
Niji can bot views, but they can't bot superchats

>>71500612
niji's "gura at home"

>>71499568
Guess FWMC are HoloJP then by that logic...

>>71477608
Even better, after Youtube and Niji take their cut, Petra only got 800USD at best, for a big event like a 3d debut.
meanwhile doki will take at least 1600USD for a stream about buying games.

>>71482953
In what reality could an absolute runt like ollie mog a cutie like petra? That's downright insane.

>>71499079
Honestly its funny seeing them scramble to find something bad to talk about after their claims of viewership being low were defeated. Antis gonna anti I guess.

>>71464907
She should just become NijiJP.

>>71502758
Pagpag chan, FWMC's chat is primarily EN, their viewership is primarily EN, their Superchats are primarily in dollars, Your worthless retarded falseflags are worthless and retarded, Go wash your itchy cunt

>>71482654
*unzips cock*

>>71467403
Petra is kinda like the reverse Coco. JP will care about those from HoloEN who can speak JP.
Anyway fun stream!

>>71468271
Lost like 2000 viewers when those three came on.

>>71503964
Is English what we call that now? Sounds like giberish to me.

>>71499568
Cope and seethe dramabirds

>>71502772
You realize Doki said she made 200k in Nijisanji in a year? They're doing okay, you don't need to worry about the nijis.

>>71502758
Oh damn, you got me there, let's look at the FWMC word bubble to see just how JP their chat is by comparison

...Huh? Isn't that weird? Doesn't it look a little different from >>71489216 ??????

>>71504331
>>71504425
>afternoon in SEA
Ahh dang the inbreds are here to stink up the place, Don't forget your company is dead, and keep seething rejects https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8MZBUoQt68

>>71470221
Thank god they modeled her 3D avatar after her cunny model. I actually dropped her and never looked back when she aged up her model.

>>71464907
I believe it was all accounted for. The basic idea of doing things this way was to ensure to minimize backslash from "niji haters" as Petra's 3D event was running. So far the early strategy
to deal with the "nijihaters" was to turn chat into a hugbox (only for people subscribed for a month or so already), but applying such method for this kind of events would be a huge
detriment.
So instead, by streaming around the time of infinite more popular events, they basically ensure to drastically reduce the presence of "nijihaters" in chat, so it can be manageable by the mods.
It is really pathetic, but for these kind of companies (paper tigers) image comes first. Riku gave a hint that they would be taking these kind of measures when in one of the transcripts that were circulating hours ago he said something along the lines of, "we will focus on our loyal fanbase".
Anyhow, Elira used the opportunity to insert herself in a stream, she was one of the main closing acts. That bitchless learned nothing and she will be back more empowered than ever.

>>71505621
..."niji haters" don't give a shit about Petra. However, they do appear to be majority japanese... which means they would care about HoloFes.
It's a fucking stupid idea to overlap them.

she did well and is going to sign a long term contract with niji, shes not going anywhere.

>>71505988
Why would you wish that on somebody

>>71505621
>that b**** Elira...
Show yourself, luxiemsister. Stop attacking my Elira in every sentence I have had enough of you guys.

>>71504982
I see Japanese there. Huh. Weird...

>>71489216
Tbh if most of Petra chat was the nijijp stans. It does explain why her number were far better then expected.
Happy for her,because i doubt she will ever realize this.
But the situation is grim for NijiEN. If we are positive, half of the chat was en. (Probably was lower and couldn't go over 30 finanas)

>>71506761
Oh wow, you're right. It's about as big as Anycolor's stock price come monday.

>>71482953
Reminder that HoloID is STILL standing whereas NijiID was disbanded and cast aside. Their "worldwide expansion" is a total joke.

>>71506342
Censoring your swears on a website where users routinely say niggerfaggot makes you look like a tourist, anon. Also
>>71505621
I'm thinking there's a high chance Elira's participation was pre-recorded awhile ago, prior to the black stream

>>71508075
How's HoloCN right now???

>>71465192
>Only 20k even with bots and jp bros watching
Grim

>>71508217
Dunno, how's VirtuaReal doing? You can find out pretty easily because China just leaked all of their faces and real names, like they would have done to Holo if cover stayed there.

>>71508217
Can't believe the best Niji"branch" is the only AnyColor doesn't run...

>>71508217
rightfully dead and buried, Commie Chinks have no business being vtubers

>>71508217
Every day I thank Coco for getting Cover out of the shithole that is China.

reminder that the only way to deal with trolls is ignoring them and not giving them (you)s

>>71508111
Retard, why would I use slurs on my oshi?

>>71508217
How's NijiID, NijiKR, NijiIN, Niji Shanghai, and Niji Taipei???

>>71499079
But I want your life to be nothing but bad 24/7

>>71508615
They're not your oshi if you can't even slur at them. Shows a severe lack of trust.
I love my fucking stupid dogs.

>>71508217
>>71508288
https://g.nga.cn/read.php?tid=38913573
Do you really wanna bring up the Chinese branches amiss all the bullying allegations? Tl;dr lesbian bullies gf in VirtuaReal, both are chuubas in that company. Just one of many examples and may not even be the worst.

>>71508914
Why am I not surprised another Nijisanji branch has a bullying problem, especially the chinese one.

>>71506342
Sorry to say, but your oshi is the one responsible for bringing trash like Enna and Millie in the branch. She also somehow got more merch deals compared to the others (including a lot JPs) so there's something extremely fishy about her.

>>71511405
Elira has 10.. T E N voicepacks, That is mroe than any other individual member in EN by a longshot, Might even be beating out a significant portion of JP too, It's beyond unnatural, And IIRC the cut on voicepacks is a generous* (By Niji standards)* 50% between the talent and AC, so it really makes you think huh... also selen was cheated out of getting one cause deadlines were pushed up

>>71464907
Yeah it''s over... she got the lower ccv in the whole Anycolor's 3D debuts.

>>71508831
They are literal bitches afterall

>>71511671
Couldn't even break 25k CCV on a 3d debut, And it was basically a JP centric debut too when you look at chat and superchat data.., That's really grim, You can almost guarantee rosemi is gonna have less next week cause she doesn't have the JP audience that petra does

>>71508831
NTA but I love fucking Pekora and her fucking monkey

>>71511671
You cant really compare old Niji to new Niji. In a post yab world 20k is great.

>>71512670
Post yab? That's their normal numbers even before the whole Selen debacle

>>71512670
There are a lot of buffs/debuffs to take into account
>JP Audience buff
>No skeletons in the closet buff
>Cunny model buff
And on the flipside we have
>NijiEN female debuff
>Hated by sisters debuff
>Counter Programming HoloFes debuff
With those in mind, 25k is simultaneously tragic and not as bad as it could have been... but getting only 2400$ in supas is bad..., VERY bad, It's worse than doki's steam sale stream, Worse than axel and altare's individual 3d debuts, 4x less than kronii's birthday 3D (the gen most comparable to her on the Holo side), And she even did worse than Enna's NIeR concert

>>71464907
>Petra is done for
No, Petra will be doing just fine

how does this compare with Lazulight 3D? Elira got boosted by JP shilling her but I do not recall Pomu and Finana viewership was it any better?

>>71464907
>It's over for this penguin
no it isnt

>>71515328
And like Enna, most of Petra's money came from foreign currency. The EN audience for Niji is GONE

>>71535298
And yet you cant stop talking about them? Curious!

>>71536931
Womanly response

>>71536931
Go home sea monkey, your company is already sinking. If the investors don’t nail Riku’s testicles onto the Nikkei exchange building by Friday, I would be surprised.

>>71528829
32k for Finana and 34k for Pomu. And despite the lower viewership, Petra got more SCs than Finana.

>>71540857
>Petra got more SCs than Finana.
Where are those PARASOCIAL FUCKS when you need them

>>71464907
Please don't bully the penguin. She is graduating soon.

I have one important counter point though:

>>71504331
Yesu We Speaku Englishu. You retard de paki-chan. Of course, you don't even understand the most basic of English, go back to listening to your blowjob sounds.

>>71487625
Institutional investors own 1/8th of Anycolor stock. If they get delisted, all of them will want to drop them FAST, which will crash their price to the ground

what do you think her 3D will dio differently?

>>71547680
graduation announcement for both, hopefully.

>>71470069
Buddy, there's a reason why "I hope your oshi stays in Nijisanji forever" is such a powerful insult. If you really want the best for them, you should hope that they get out soon.

>>71464907
I feel fucking sorry for her. Used as sacrificial goat to save the sinking yacht, literally fate worse than death.
Her 3D model will not even be used for anything after that anyway because Nijisanji has no events.

>>71511591
they run the numbers, whoever sells the most gets more. it's simple. Gura gets more merch than everyone else too.

>>71551359
>they run the numbers, whoever sells the most gets more. it's simple. Gura gets more merch than everyone else too.
If that was true, Pomu or Selen or fucking LUXIUM would be the ones with 10 voice packs each... they only had 2-3 each.. Elira merch never sold nearly as well was any of them, So why did she get more?

>>71551759
voice packs are opt-in if I remember right. They shouldn't count for this. They could have a voice pack every single release if they wanted to.
Merch seems to be a different story, but it's still odd for how many collabs there were with Elira.
The one that still gets my goat is the sanrio collab. Selen's always been extremely vocal about how much she loves Sanrio and wanted to work with them as a dream collab.
...And then it gets given exclusively to lazulight and luxiem?

>>71552080
Selen TRIED to be in a voice pack but "missed the deadline by an hour", Now there is no PROOF the deadline was pushed up specifically to screw her over, But it wouldn't surprise me considering all the other work she was swamped with

>>71553235
Nah, that one specifically seemed like a case of overwork and just missing e-mails in the chaos of all her projects. Apparently she barely had any time to actually respond properly, and I guess the managers didn't give enough of a shit to help her with any of it like usual.

>>71545410
>She's twerking
>Lyrics encouraging her not to cry because even the song knows how pitiful this is
Pottery.

>>71464907
So... did Peto get botted in the end or...?

>>71553619
She unironically got a lot of advertisement from "Petra against FES" posting and how she's being thrown to the wolves by Niji. People will take pity on her and swing by just for that.

Could be bots too, but there's enough reason to believe it was just tourism.

No Vanta? No buy.

>>71495965
I really liked the Mojipittan stream she did and yeah she was always very JP oriented.

>>71552080
>The one that still gets my goat is the sanrio collab. Selen's always been extremely vocal about how much she loves Sanrio and wanted to work with them as a dream collab.
Yeah, that responsibility all falls on corporate. First wave gets the big collab despite what the talent feels or thinks about their goals or dreams. Same thing with Luxiem, it's a favouritism thing basically, the project lead for Luxiem got promoted higher up and he pretty much owes his job to them as he was on the verge of getting fired before Luxiem blew up. Anycolor isn't in the business of making dreams come true. You should realize that. Blaming Elira for the Sanrio thing is wrong.

>>71551759
False fucked up his reporting. The "10vs2" thing was never about voicepacks, but rather about niji-official individual merch (not collab/sponsored merch). Voicepacks have always been opt-in.

>>71499079
NIJISEETHE

>>71499079
read the thread. most people here despite their origins actually praised petra.

>>71552080
>>71554348
For me, it's the PC case. Selen said it was her dream to have her IP featured on a case or keyboard at an e-sports tournament and then Hyte has a collab with big gamers...Elira, Enna, and Rosemi?

Hyte didn't go into specifics, but the speed and visibility with which they dropped Nijisanji after Selen's termination makes you wonder if they'd already experienced some fuckery behind the scenes. Reaching out to Doki on Twitter only adds to that.

>>71554832
Honestly there is just so much in that company that reeks of petty spite it becomes difficult to give any benefit of doubt to the veritable mountain of excuses people come up with.

She did better than expected, maybe even very well given the circumstances. She kept pace with the HoloFes waiting room at least (@~60 Finanas). Her SC's couldn't even compete with folks watching Doki just buy games, but she just about doubled it in CCV at least.

It was all so very Japanese though. Was it only promoted in Japan? I too am wondering if the plan is to merge EN into JP, perhaps only keeping those that can speak nihongo.

I'm happy for her but... Ideally, she should have gotten zero views. That would have accelerated the closing of the branch and getting her out of there ASAP, which is clearly the best thing for both her life and career. But alas, people care more about cute girls doing cute things than they care about the wellbeing of said cute girls, which is among the reasons why we have so many suicides among actresses and musicians.

>>71464907
Could have been worse

>>71557543
CCV doesn't pay the bills, Her Supas being low is literally all the suits would conceivably care about, And it's almost certain wose will do worse cause she doesn't have a JP audience like petra does

if petras chat was mostly jp, then i wonder how bad Rosemis 3D will turn out with less jp chatters

>>71561204
Hopefully it's timed better. It was a mercy that Petra's ended before Holofes proper started, and even then it was barely competing with a waiting room. I've a feeling NijiEN doesn't even check its internal calendar for conflicts, since they pulled Selen's termination notice on Vanta's birthday - let alone check the calendars of other agencies.

But if it does terribly, ultimately, that's better for Rosemi than it doing spectacularly - anything that gets her out of there faster is best for her.

>>71465152
rly?

>>71554832
PC case is funny because it really sounded that even Hyte got screwed over.
So they straight were the first to just drop Niji so public like that.

>>71547680
less viewers and money
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