/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I'll give you half of my chocolate cake sure

>>71409962
How many Finanas she will get as an indie?
1/2? 1/4?

>>71409962
You are not Finana, fuck off retard.

If you do sexy ASMR I will support you 100%. I will pay you a wage that allows you to live the life of a fucking king.

>>71409962
Sounds parasocial

>>71409962
If you do an 18+ apology ASMR and get away from your groomercord, sure

>>71409962
Yes, but only if you leave right now

>>71409962
Hahahaha
no
Go educate yourself

>>71409962
But we will have to change the metric naming for CCV if she leaves... Or will she be 0,5 Finanas after she leave niji?

>PARASOCIAL FUUUUUCKS

>>71410142
Let’s be real for a moment, Finana will never graduate from her own choice. She has soured so many fans that the only reason why she gets collaborating deals is because she works for Nijisanji. If she ever left she would lose the last thing that makes her relevant. No one watches Finana anymore because she’s fun, it’s why she went from 4-5 Finanas on average to 1 Finana on average, those remaining are just bots or folks who have sunk cost fallecy

I don't want to get too parasocial so I'll have to pass.

>>71409962
If you start doing lewd ASMR and JOI like the filthy little slut you are I might consider it.

>>71409962
eww no thats parasocial behavior

Sometimes I hope she isn't /here/, must be heart breaking to see your hard work being turned into a low ccv meme. Then I remember that SHE brought this whole situation upon herself.

>>71411184
Of course she is /here/

I'll throw a couple of dollars your way if I see you at the local gentleman's club

Does she hang out at the doxxsite? Do the sisters there like her?

>>71409962
If I see massively upvoted doxxsis slamming you over betraying Nijisanji I'll give you a chance and check out your new content.

>>71411184
all nijinogs are /here/

>>71410505

>>71409962
If finana has sex with me. I will forgive her.

>>71409962
Maybe in like a year afterwards if she actually shows some kind of self reflection.
I'll keep an eye on Elira, but Finana's dead to me after all she's done for the forseeable future.

>>71411184
That's pretty much my feelings. It's sad, sure, and it could've been avoidable, but she's actively malicious towards her fans. That's something that's virtually unheard of for any kind of success. At that point why even stay in the industry if you don't want to carve out a niche?

>>71409962
Depends on quality of your Fansly content.

>>71409962
I actually unironically would, not much tho cause her streams bore me but i like her songs

>>71409962
She should make an FC2 and slut it up for money.
Just thinking about how fucking degrading it must feel for her gets me rock hard

>>71409962
Umm I don't owe you anything, you parasocial fuck. Cringe.

>>71409962
She hates parasocial fucks so she shouldn't want that (apart from the fact that being parasocial is the key to success for Vtubers/streamers)

No. L+Ratio Parasocial fuck.

>>71409962
This has already been done before. Be more original, anon. Don't you know that Finana deserves fans with more originality than this?

>>71411357
>Do the sisters there like her?
No and it will never not be funny to me

>>71409962
Will you ditch the valocucks?

>>71413907
She killed one fanbase for them already. Why would she shop now?

>>71412862
>Finana deserves fans
[citation needed]

>>71409962
Not interested.

>>71409962
As an idea she could be getting a couple ccv FInanas the first weeks but she would eventually stabilize at 1-4 Centi-Finanas

>>71409962
Will you be testing Tengas on stream?

>>71412614
I might actually support her if she does full anal gape. She's essentially been setting up the career change to porn since the beginning what with the egg talk and what not.

>>71415349
A Lovense sponsored vtuber could be fun. Maybe Melody can get her in contact with the right people.

Can someone explain the parasocial fucks thing, Iv never watched her

>>71409962
Yes, into VAllure.

>>71409962
cunny voice lewd asmr is rare, you know what to do

>>71409962
only if you do fansly

>>71415644
Reimu interrupted Vox's ASMR stream, his fujos harassed her for it. Finana tried to support Reimu by calling out the "parasocial fucks".

>>71409962
QRD?

Nah

>>71409962
If she went back to doing coom ASMR I would

>>71409962
If you join VAllure

>>71409962
Unironically, the only path forward is fansly/onlyfans and streaming on chaturbate

>>71409962
Do more coom asmr and maybe, only maybe, will think about it

>>71416029
More context: She used to do a lot of GFE stuff so it sounded extremely hypocrite and destroyed her image completely.

>>71409962
The only realistic path if she doesn't want to go full Vallure is to find someone to literally adopt her in full collab, like Bijou does with Kaela.
Only that Kaela is just mid, she's a disaster and whoever tried to rescue her got burned, so probably even if she gets one chance to restart she will proceed to fuck it up again.

>>71409962
Unlike the clique, you are too incompetent to be a threat to the Vtubing community at large. So I'll throw you a bone and say I hope you don't stay in Nijisanji forever.

>>71409962
GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED

Do more JOI ASMR, you’re good at this

>>71409962
Do porn then I will think about it....

>>71409962
giving a serious answer knowing this is a larper.. if your going to graduate then do it rather than asking opinions and stream as an Indy without going through your SJW phase in both twitch and youtube continuously you will build a community who will stick with you look at sayu she is about 3 finana's in any given day.

>>71409962
Do lewd ASMR and I'll be there every time.

>>71409962
>who

How many Finanas do you think she'll reach post graduation? I'm betting on 0.37

>>71409962
Show bobs and vagene

>>71409962
we don't give a fuck about you we want finance

>>71411357
The chink sisters only like the males.
They have demonstrated time and time again that they despise the girls, and they've harassed them openly in several occasions.
Who doxxed Zaion? Who contacted random people that she was friends with on facebook, besmirching her?
Who shared /b/omu en masse? Who compiled spreadsheets about her /cgl/ posts and pictures?
Who harassed Reimu for daring to interfere with their ""date"" ?
Who harassed Nina for "leeching" from the males and collabing with them? Who is using Nina's page as a general discussion forum, because they were all obsessively using that page to shit-talk her to the point it became an organic general discussion page? Who harassed Nina's fans to the point they were scared to even mention they are fans or exhibit membership icons, et cetera?
Who astroturfed about Rosemi (and Pomu) getting too close to Luca? Who seethed ad nauseam about both of them getting close to Luca to "leech" ?


The sisters are now pretending to have always loved the girls, to support the cause(tm), but you can simply scroll back a couple of thousand pages on nyfco, and you will be able to see the endless and immense seethe and kvetch.
It's basically 4000 pages of seetheposting about the girls and posting homosexual fanfiction about the males.

>>71419104
This unironically. Numberfags are plenty on this site but as an Indie you can be well with 3numbers. The problem is that you need to prove with facts that you are out of your old shit.
Don't ask us shit again until you graduate. "Finana" is not gonna work for you, you need to change.

>>71411357
Her page is literally a Valoguard tracker, what do you think?

>>71409962
Only if you beg Sayu for forgiveness and publicly ditch the groomercord

>>71419341
I doubt she's willing to put in the work and effort to clean up her image.
The shit she pulled will follow her until the end days and frankly she neither has a niche nor is entertaining enough to pull it off as an indie

>>71411357
>>71413833
Qrd?

>>71419340
>Who doxxed Zaion.
Kyo gave the sisters her info so technically it was him.

>>71409962
I'm ready to sail when you are

>>71420972
who does that poor fish have a tumour on his head :(

>>71409962
Only if you support my child with your womb
Then I have reason to support you

>>71410411
No need to change the metric.
For example, 0,5 Finanas is equivalent to 5 DeciFinanas

>>71419867
Well she may go down with the ship regardless. She has less hopes ever to be relevant if EN gets absorbed into JP.

>>71421413
or 50 CentiFinanas or 500 MiliFinanas

>>71409962
No. Bitch.

>>71409962
Sounding pretty parasocial there, Finana.

>>71415644

>>71409962
If she reincarnates... I'll have a look. Its a second chance, right? Maybe she'll have educated herself by then. I doubt it, but maybe.

>>71409962
Do you think another corpo would ever try and hire her under a new name? Or has she ruined her rep too much for anyone to risk it?

>>71423440
not many people remember how she sounds like, why not

>>71421271
Being a ryuguard means you've got brain cancer. They're fine with it, though. All 1 finana of them.

I'll support you only after you satisfy my demands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmIAM-hnEjQ

She should go indie. And if and when she does most of her subscribers will follow her (including some of /us/, even the ones who say they won't)
Doki and Sayu already have over 85% of their subscriber numbers back, and the rest of them know they'll be just as well off as those two once they leave.. They'll probably have a little less viewers, but significantly more viewer money will go into their own coffers, with none of it going to the yacht fund.

And, most importantly, Not-Finana be able to stream on CB or play Honey Select without management or anyone else telling her not to (plus she can monetize her toys! Imagine getting paid to do something you were going to do anyway!)

>>71424403
>he thinks coomerbait tuber whores are actually coomers

May I perchance offer you a bridge I happen to have for sale?

>>71409962
only if she posts nudes

>>71424403
She could auction off her wireless egg to recuperate the contract fees too

>>71418595
shortly after this happened she did a Valentines date ASMR stream too

>>71409962
I'll follow you to Vallure.

>>71424166
Holy crap I missed these

I used to watch her back when it was only Lazulight, I enjoyed her, why is she so unpopular now?

>>71409962
Ditch the groomers, go back to coomer content and I'll be there

>>71409962
Sorry too busy educating myself

>>71422657
She might have gotten bonked by management for scolding the Kindreds for harassing Reimu. That's probably why she's not allowed to do GFE/ASMR streams any more.
That, or she was bonked by management for muscling in on Millie's territory.
She knows that her ASMR content is her most popular content, and management knows it, and there was literally no other reason for her to stop.

...do any of EN besides Millie and Vox have 10 or more ASMR streams? Because management probably decided that those two are the branch's GFE/BFE/ASMR streamers, and in turn that none of the others need to do that content.

>>71426712
Nah she kept doing them until around Xsoleil debuted, since Hex barged in one of them and she got embarrassed and dropped the lewd direction

>>71409962
There will surely be support finana with Uki dick ... make sure to get child support from him

>>71409962
I'd love to keep Finana as a pet, she's the kind who's beliefs are sorely a reflection of her current bf so I don't think she'd be problematic once she settles down with me, she'll just stay at home away from the internet both for her mental health and to stay out of trouble, and be completely dependant on me.
I'll feed her and fuck her whenever I want, and then she'll lay on my lap naked as new new life.

>>71428418
Anon would you do the same for Millie, she also needs saving and has no useful skill

>>71411184
>hard work

>>71414175

>>71423440
She's not entertaining enough; when she actually put effort in she was okay. That's it - only okay.

>>71414175
idk, even the more active ones are already jumping ship, or at least preparing to.

>>71419340
Every day I get more reasons to believe that bugmen aren’t people

I blame gacha and twitterfreaks for lobotomizing Finana. She could've been so much more.

Your content fucking sucks.

>>71410669
>If she ever left she would lose the last thing that makes her relevant.
counterpoint: grooming

Hasn't she suffered enough?

>>71431473
>Hasn't she suffered enough?
No.

>>71431473
beatings will continue until she educates herself

>>71424403
I don't think Doki and Sayu apply to Finana because in Doki's case, she's shown herself over several years to be an extremely caring creator who adores her fanbase and wants to make them happy, and Sayu's proven through sheer effort and kindness how she never was the monster that Nijisanji and the sisters made her out to be, on top of the fact that she ACTUALLY PUTS FORTH EFFORT to reflect on and improve her mental state and content, turning even the coldest of hearts to her side (provided they actually watched her outside of clips. Can't turn people if they don't even try to hatewatch her and just watch clips)

Meanwhile, Finana did this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXf7dYYHipw
Granted, I still believe that anybody who makes an effort to improve can deserve redemption. But she's clearly shown that she does not want to improve. She just wants the money and fame that comes with being a successful creator while actively hating and shaming the people who can make that happen, focusing entirely on what SHE wants to do rather than what would make her fanbase happy. For fuck's sake, you don't have to do coomer content if you don't want to, but at LEAST try to find your own niche instead of actually spamming gacha garbage. Her last several solo game streams were ALL gacha.

>>71431473
She has brought most of this onto herself to a certain degree, her doubling down and refusing to admit to any mistakes or learn from people here is proof she'll continue to shoot herself in the foot

>>71409962
nobody supports you now finana, either spread your legs or fuck off forever

>>71431473
Finana is reaping what she sowed, and nothing more.
The mockery will continue until her content improves.
Personally, I'd like to think she can still turn things around if she works hard enough and also stops taking her audience for granted. Might be too late for it to matter, though, now that Niji is on fire...

>>71428633
I don't agree. Even if millie turns out to be the vile person that the gurrat and /vt/ thinks she is, she still absolutely has marketable skills as a fantastic content creator. She's creative as fuck and comes up with a variety of interesting stream topics, has a great voice and comedic timing, and is just overall good at improv. It'd be a shame to lose that forever.
Same with Enna. She's got fantastic singing chops that are completely wasted at that shitty company who doesn't develop it, and her improv and comedy skills would do FANTASTIC with a proper western audience. The chinks and seamonkeys see everything she says as a red flag, but in the context of US, Canada, Europe, everything she says is just hilarious dark humor if taken at face value or sarcastically.
Though these days I'm starting to wonder if the chinks were right...

>>71409962
start a FC2 asmr and i will think about it

>>71409962
Gee I dunno that sounds like something only PARASOCIAL FUCKS would do

You're on your own, bub. That's just what you wanted, right?

>>71432480
Honestly? If she somehow turned shit around even at this stage I think she'd survive well enough to go full time. Even 1 finana I hear is good enough for an indie on twitch provided they can start getting subs or ads. 300 ccv is a great audience considering most of twitch and youtube streamers are 1view or 2view, and if she ACTUALLY turned shit around, 1 Finana can grow into two or three exponentially. Like hell, even her leaked audition tape showed how she has serious potential as a cgdct streamer, even without the lewd, but she'd actually have to give a shit about her audience and shower them with affection in other ways. Actual thanks, fan projects, commissioning her own art and community like Selen, etc. Not feet streams.

>>71432558
Mentioning Enna made me remember she got mogged by a sheet of paper now I can't stop chuckling to myself

Maybe finana should give her audience what they want

>>71409962
I watched your stream once
Then i decided to educate myself and never return

>>71431260
It's funny because she'd get more viewers if more of her content was fucking (solo is okay, and is in fact preferred). All she needs to return to success are enough plausible deniability in the stream title of her next ASMR stream, and enough luck that her family is asleep and that Youtube-kun doesn't figure out that her "slime" ASMR or her "shoulder" massager ASMR is spicier than the face value of the title.
Mostly the "family being asleep" thing.

>>71432966
ASMR in 3D with a foot cam.

>>71432966
Nah, if she really doesn't want to do ASMR anymore then it's probably for the best that she doesn't try.
No passion = bad content.

>>71430116
With a model like that she could've been great, even pomu tier. She blew it. What a shame.

>>71432966
oh hey it's the "sigh" guy

>>71409962
i thought you already graduated

>>71426285
Or better yet, get better groomers that want her to do better.

>>71410242
>woman
>king
ESL-chama get your gendered words right

>>71431473
Has she reflected?

>>71437601
NTA but Anon, your comprehension reps. The life of a king is a metaphor, not calling her a gendered term for a monarch.
>>71437744
From what I've seen? Not at all. If anything she's doubled down on the self pity and blaming everyone else instead.

>>71432558
Millie, come on. You aren't fooling anyone.

>>71410242
Paypigs are so pathetic just buy an escort

>>71433237
Asmr sucks too. Finana simply isnt interesting.

>>71433465
Did she say that she doesn't have passion for ASMR anymore, or was it a skinwalker post?

>>71409962
How the fuck do you get 1 million views on your songs in a month, or even a week, when you can't even get over a thousand people in your streams?

>>71442662
Sing good, stream bad, it's not that complicated. Shame it's really hard to succeed as an AZKi, essentially impossible as an indie.

>>71442662
Honestly? Likely bots pumping up the numbers. Either that or the fujo method for pumping kpop views. There's like a whole damn tutorial and they used it for Vox's videos too.

>>71409962
Why would I want you to get the remaining 98% back?

sorry im parasocial

>>71409962
Honestly, I'd give her a chance. Niji disintegrating under her feat might wake her up, and she could turn over a whole new leaf. I don't think she's responsible enough to go indi, but another, real, talent agency might be able to tutor and tard wrangle her.

Either way she'd be better off. The longer she's stuck in there, the more likely something is going to happen that taints her career beyond salvation forever. There's still a glimmer of hope for her, unlike Elira and whoever management will sacrifice next.

It's crazy that somehow Pomu is the only one out of Lazulight that people genuinely wept over. Theoretically speaking Elira and Finana won't get the same treatment because their reputation is absolutely in the dirt, but I can't tell which one has it worse right now

>>71444063
Elira can always dig herself out of a hole if she puts in the effort, but Finana doesn't really put out much work.

>>71442662
People are more likely to sit through a music video and replay it, rather than sit through hours of streams. Also >>71443031 , it's been speculated that Niji botted one of their karaoke streams a few weeks ago while Doki was streaming, so it's not to much of a reach to say someone subtlety botted for her

>>71444210
It'd take a miracle like a public affirmation from Doki to get Elira out of her near the center of the Earth hole.

Finana's problems are typical tard vtuber problems of the sort that always happen when some girl doing GFE gets a boyfriend, feels guilty, and abandons their fanbase as a result, the sort of thing a re-debut under a new model is the best medicine for, especially if coupled with competent management that can man handle her. Nothing like being viewed as potentially responsible for a co-worker's attempted suicide and attacking her afterward. No company or model swap is going to fix that. It'll plague her wherever she goes, even if she tries to go into some sort of non-vtubing related media, assuming anyone would even dare hire her.

She would have to slut it out for her viewers 10x the amount she did when she got started as Finana for me to watch her, but given that she's still being groomed by her fatherless tranigger discord mutt acquaintaces there's no way she's changing course for the better, so the fish is dead

>>71444210
Judging from her posts /here/, she doesn't seem content at where she is now but also isn't willing to put in the effort to change or even figure out a new niche for herself. Some people need a hard slap in the face to get things through their skulls when shit doesn't work. For her, it may just be Anycolor going under.

>>71409962
Her ryuuguards from Discord can support her

>>71412462
The pink cat managed it

>>71446196
Mike hasn't been malicious on stream though.

>>71432889
What?

>>71446103
Didn’t she lose her biggest paypigs after the groomercord? I would imagine the only thing keeping her afloat is her memberships earning seeing how regular streams for her don’t even reach $50 in superchats

>>71446295
I think anon meant Nyanners

>>71447371
The only thing that's keeping her afloat is her parents.

>>71447371
I heard that members of the groomercord just donate to her directly bypassing anycolor too, which is pretty based if you ask me

>>71446103
/thread

>>71447838
No they aren’t, most of them are barely able to keep it together college students and the one that did donate to her regularly found another indie to groom

When she did the "parasocial fucks" thing, she was THIS close to saying "fags", wasn't she?

>>71409962
Three easy steps to make Finana great again:

1. Get naked in front of a mirror
2. Take several pictures
3. Upload them here
4. Instant success

>>71409962
I will continue to fully support the use of Finana as a viewership measurement unit, no matter where she goes.

>>71410242
Why not make the world a better place and kill yourself instead?

>>71448586
>3. Upload them here
>4. Instant success
I could see her doing that as some sort of last resort/hail Mary for even the tiniest amount of attention

>>71444063
Elira is "good riddance", Finana is "meh" or "who?"

>>71409962
>when I graduate
>implying she won't get terminated for some random bullshit

>>71423440
Why would they? There's plenty of indies with her numbers to fill slots.

>>71449699
Niji isn’t going to terminate anyone anytime soon. They can’t afford to

>>71411184
Out of everyone in NijiEN there's no way that Finana is the one that's not terminally online.

>>71409962
if you're still alive

>>71409962
Yeah, with my dick

>>71410142
1/8th

>>71447610
>Bring that thing up
Don't interrupt memory holing ritual anon

>>71409962
Who?

>>71409962
Pfft

>>71448572
No I think she took up the fags thing after staying here too long. There was a few days where someone who posted suspiciously like her with a strange amount of knowledge kept calling people "you fucks." /vt/ laughed at that and started meming it, and then suddenly a few days later someone came around saying "you fags" instead. I want to believe we made her self conscious because it'd be funny, but also a little sad.

>>71472678
That's odd. Wasn't she in Mille's secret GC stream? There's no way she wasn't /here/ back then if she was.
If that poster was Finana, then this change from fucks to fags was probably more to conceal herself

>>71473829
Honestly, fuck if I remember. I mostly memory holed that stream. It wasn't really funny, just weird.

>>71409962
...........excuse?

>>71423440
She’s too much of a PR risk for other corpos to hire her

>>71447610
Nyanners anti-loli tantrum was short lived and her break from 4chan long ago, well before she became a vtuber. These days, she often slyly pulls a perv, and kind of tongue in cheek scolds chat, rather than telling them to fuck off. A regular exchange that they seem to enjoy well enough.

Practically speaking, she re-debuted after the debacle, which usually works for that sort of transgression.

>>71475247
I don't think she's been too tainted by the whole Selen debacle... Millie and Enna might have issues finding employment, and Elira is unemployable for life, but Feesh's biggest problem is that her numbers are bad for someone in her position. Not so bad that she couldn't get hired by a small corpo, but going indi would probably be more than she could handle. She needs support and tardwrangling.

>>71476290
Not the selen PR risk, the whole "killing off your entire fanbase without finding a way to replace them" PR risk.

>>71472678
>>71474167
>>/vt/thread/70957429#p71054597

>>71409962
sex or no deal

She's just too retarded to enjoy. I tried watching her 999 play. Oof if I was in the chat, I would have gotten banned for backseating.