/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>71414514
Just wait until she mogs your prerecorded "fes."

To remind her of her place as a miserable loser and holo reject. This mindbreaking ensues she remains too much of a bitch to quit.

>>71414514
It would have to be pretty demoralizing to have your big milestone 3D debut mogged by the poorfags who can't afford a ticket to the main show.

>>71414514
humiliation ritual

>>71414514
Riku needs a scapegoat for the Q4 report.
Sorry, pingu.

grim

>>71414514
OP you ever watched the shittier later seasons of Game of Thrones?
Remember Shireen getting burnt alive on a sacrificial pyre by her dad to stop a punishing winter before fighting the Bolton army? The snows melt but the Baratheon army loses anyway because a big chunk of the army leave in disgust? Yeah we're seeing it play out in vtuber form but with Riku as the "dad" and Petra as the "daughter". It's kind of morbidly fascinating.

can you guys get her to 500k so she can celebrate that milestone with 3D?

>nooo the entire world has to stop for hololive

>>71415126
Retard

>>71414514
Holofes doesn't start at that time. It's 1 hour of ads and background music.

>Damn I was gonna watch the fes but Petra's 3D is on so i'll see that instead
Says no one, ever. I don't know wtf Niji is thinking.

>>71415240
>petra3D will be 1 hour long
>petra3D will be the Holofes waiting room
I see this as a complete win

>>71415240
Imagine the Holo ads get more CCV than Petra 3D. That woukd be so depressing even for sisters

But seriously, why did they decide to schedule the 3d for this weekend

>>71415446
Retardation

This is one of the events that Riku said was going to boost the company's revenue in Q4...
I think he expects Petra to make about 1.5billion yen.
Good luck, Petra! I believe in you.

can >we saviorfag Petra? she's not one of the bad ones

>>71415446
They wanted to humiliate her before she leaves

>>71415499
I will save her if she goes indie

There's at least four other paid vtuber events happening this weekend, so Niji can't even do retarded scheduling the best.

>>71415499
Petra will probably quit vtubing if she's graduating

>>71415499
>>71415547
this. She said multiple times she will quit vtubing after Nijisanji.

>>71415499
>she's not one of the bad ones
She's a cunt, we don't want her in Hololive

>>71415297
>>71415446
They do it this weekend exactly because her 3d is an unimportant event. It's not really hard to understand.

>>71414514
Because they need a win before the market opens this monday and they get slaughtered.

>>71415817
Give me some examples of her being a cunt
I really want a reason to hate her but she's just so hot

I don't think is going to be that bad thou. Is not like the Niji fans are going to watch Holofes, or that the Holo fans would have went of their way to watch her 3D otherwise - so is fine. Peoples exaggerate.

>>71416013
I get to watch both at the same time so I won.

>>71415446
Pure Malice from Riku or Masochism from organs

>>71414567
She's gonna be the first ever 3view 3d live, You really think sisters care about their oshi's cocksleeves?, They only care about the males, MAYBE if it was a luxium 3d debut, they'd stand a chance, But nobody left in the niji fanbase gives a fuck about petra or wose

>>71414514
Enlightened Nijisanji fans wouldn't countenance watching Holoslop anyway, so she won't be impacted.

>>71415111
Sorry, no pity points. The company put her in this misery, I don't see why the fans have to pull her out.
Maybe this will be the wakeup call for her to get out.

>>71414514
She refused to betray Selen

>>71415355
I can see that happening towards the end of the stream.

>>71415499
>can we saviorfagging a Nijisanji chuuba, the biggest vtuber corporation in the world?
retard moment

>>71414567
Sub 10k, calling it

>>71414514
The only way this would work for her is if she will also announce her graduation so even if she gets 3views she can not care at all.
>>71416087
People who care want them out. As soon as they quit they will get their PL views.
Remember all those sisters here being bitch about something as simple as setting her debut 1-2 hours prior. They are gonna call her names for abandoning their oshi Riku.

>>71416334
ESL retard, they're not the biggest anymore. Even Vshojo gives them the middle finger now.

>>71416334
EN =/= JP

>>71416272
I would go with this argument with Rosemi, but Petra is all too happy to hang around with the Clique even if then she tells in chat that they ghost her.
She's as gaslighted as Finana, don't put your hopes up.

>>71414514
that's kinda fucked up

>>71416458
Yes, we noticed, she is probably lucky this happened before the chaos is enough that EN gets inglobated or worse. Riku can cry as much as he wants, he's not saving EN from the investors' wrath.

>>71414514
Hail Mary? It's not like it can get any worse, right?

>>71415499
she needs to get out of niji first

>>71416430
sisters swear on their goats that niji is still number one

>>71414514
Can she make it above 8k viewers?

>>71416789
There will be enough bots to push her above 10k, in any case.

>>71414514
Using her to jab at the competition, essentially using what should be a happy event as a form of punishment. I still believe the Rrat that she has already put in her notice, and is in the graduation que. This is a way to humiliate her on the way out, while attempting to throw a wrench in the hype around the Holofes. Using her 3D debut, as a stunt for attention more than anything. Grim, but it tracks with how they treat their talents in general.

>>71416430
On what, CCV? Yeah EN got dogshit numbers nowadays, but they still the side branch of one of the top corpo, no? Why would people ever feel bad for them, there's 1 or 2 view out there that you can saviorfag instead.

>>71414514
BLOOD FOR THE YACHT GOD

>>71415126
>>nooo the entire world has to stop for petolive

>>71415126
Literally the opposite. I hope everyone would schedule an event over holofes just to see what happens.

>>71415126
Yeah cause killing of your chance to go viral and get free marketing on Social media for 3D is a genius marketing move.

>>71414514
She probably want to graduate so she is punished by humiliation tactic. Riku will also use this to deflect that the EN market is dead to merge the branch. One stone two bird. Three if you count that she may also atempt and maybe not survive so she will not be a potential future concurent.
I mean that the amount of evil kuro is doing since as long as it exist (not EN branch, since the very first day)

>>71416013
>Is not like the Niji fans are going to watch Holofes
Pomu...

>>71414514
The description still only says "Thank you"

>>71417623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WChTqYlDjtI

I don't think a loading screen is going to have more people than a 3D debut, right????
unless a certain retard starts botting it as always

>>71415240
But Expo will be happening at that time, and Miko, Fubuki, Aqua, and Laplus will be on stage

>>71414514
All part of the plan

>>71415355
Sisturds don't give a shit about her though. They only care about faggots like Uki and Luca.

>>71417623
I'm really, really gonna cope she's announcing her graduation, so she doesn't give a fuck about ccv. That would be the only acceptable scenario since Riku would want to be sure it doesn't explode as a news.

Then it will be Rosemi's time. They got divided in their announcement in hope of damage control of having to officially say " We lost all of Gen 2 in Q4 ".

>>71417803
He is planning to buy the full 100% of company stock, and then re-launching it as a clown car. The man is a freaking genius.

>>71417623
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GRADUATE
I DON'T WANNA SEE YOUR UGLY PENGUIN ASS ANY MORE

>>71417437
I mean, that's why you divide her and Rosemi 3D right? I bet the original plan was a full Obsydia debut for Holofes, that could have mogged the preshow, but this alone....grim.

At least if she's leaving and this is the bucket list she can give zero crap about ccv.

>>71414514
She's an "outsider" so they use her as cannon fodder to take a blunt of Hololive Power.

>>71415029
Sounds like a shittier version of a better fantasy scene. Who came up with it, GRRM or DB & DB?

>>71417623
...


I actually feel kinda sorry for her. Niji management gave her a horrendous schedule for the 3D stream.

>>71417623
she's gone

I want to strangle Riku for what they did to her

>>71415817
No-one said anything about her joining Hololive, falseflagging sister/Holotard. It is really hard to tell the difference between the two these days.

>>71417623
...petra, please just go indie. staying in kurosanji isn't worth the hassle.

>>71414514
>Petra
The only logical conclusion, they're planning to bot her views into the stratosphere.

>>71418063
Any recent updates from her there?

>>71418001
Dumber and Dumber did ofc.

>>71414567
this is so obvious I don't even believe it's bait, you're just retarded

>>71418001
The latter most likely, though they claim they were using his notes to complete the series.
They've always hated Stannis though so who really knows until Martin finishes Winds if ever lol.

>>71418001
Well Shireen is still alive in the books, so I'll let you do the math on that one.

>>71418063
Strangle the shitty clique as well. They are responsible for a lot of scandals/sabotaging in the EN branch.

>>71417623
It's so over
I hope they all manage to get out

>>71418159
Fat fuck will die of obesity before he finishes the books.

>>71417623
That's ominous, is she going to "attempt" live on stream

>>71418122
Nah man, if they were planning that shit, Rosemi & Petra would debut together, or they would go straight for the throat.
This is just an execution squad like they tried to do with Selen, a "she was not popular, her loss is negligible" deal.

>>71415935
At the very least, they need to present themselves as a viable competitor to Hololive.

>>71418244
Man kurosanji took away all my hopes and dreams in these months. Nothing would heal me more than all of them getting out and then doing a collab. Just a symbol of "no matter how bad things went, there was a gen to follow and they are out".
But I held my hopes. Things can always get worse.

>>71418205
Isn't Stanny trying to make her queen in the books? Like literally his entire game plan? And that's why everyone groaned about it?
Also Holy shit I just remembered these things existed wasnt he pretending the next one was close five years ago

>>71418261
Fuck that'd be funny.
>Verification not required

>>71417623
that's just too sad

>>71418379
Stannis is trying to win over the realm by going to the fight that actually matters in the North, he will probably get rolled by the Boltons if the book ever comes out just like the show, just without the burning his daughter alive part which is something that goes against his character.

>>71414567
>>71418350
>But I held my hopes. Things can always get worse.
This may end up becoming the tagline for this new era of Nijisanji.

>>71418379
It's been about 12.5 years since the last book came out

>>71414514
FES IS A WAITING ROOM FOR AN HOUR YOU IMBECILES THIS IS ACTUALLY GALAXY BRAINED

>>71418379
Yeah Stan told his men to install his daughter on the throne if he dies in the books. Watching all this dumb shit Niji's been doing and all the coincidental rrats took me back to those times like a weird dejavu. At this rate, Anycolor's gonna fold before Martin finishes his series.

>>71418579
>going to get mogged by a waiting room
OH NO NO NO NIJISISTERS DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN

>>71414514
This can't be real, it simply can't, there's no way any company in any kind of environment would do something so absurd.

It's like trying to defeat the superbowl or a season NBA finals, this is so fucking retarded I refuse to believe it's true.

>>71418579
>petra3D is the waiting room for holofes
kek
>petra3D will have lower ccv than a waiting room
kek

>>71418579
>>71417790

>>71419052
It is if she's gonna say something bad like "I'm graduating" and you don't want people to hear it.

>>71419488

>>71419052
>>71407329
Anon go look at all the other actual concerts and shit that are taking place this weekend.

>>71419488
This does make sense alright, still a really shitty move to pull.

>>71419591
That's a huge list but are all of them happening at the same time as Holofes?

>>71419591
It makes sense to go before or after holofes but directly overlapping it as a competitor is suicide.

>>71419706
>>71419760
Spending only five seconds to look most of them seem to be overlapping part of either show for at least a bit of their run time.

>>71414514
>implying awareness of other company schedules
>>71414567
Meds. Now. This obsession with moogles is unhealthy

>>71419706
>happening at the same time as Holofes?
Fes is at least ten hours in two days so yes, most certainly.

>>71419865
fuck you kupo

>>71415111
she already has 501k

>>71418261
>Destroy the image of VTubing itself by an hero'ing live right as the HoloFes is going on.
That's retarded, she would Chernobyl NIJISANJI instead. Which depending on your PoV. Might be a good or bad thing.

>>71414514
THIS WILL BE A BLOODBATH HOLY SHIT

Petra Gurin more like Peter Griffin

>>71419984
It'd be fuckin kino because no one gives a shit about Petra

>>71419591
Sis, just move it 1 hour before. It's not rocket science. Rosemi's debut is one hour before Suisei's birthday. Putting it at the same time puts immense pressure on her to be perfect because she's fighting the ENTIRETY OF HOLOLIVE.

Unless there is something Kurosanji doesn't want us to hear, she is being murdered.

>>71419984
There is no way Kurosanji wouldn't lose everything that very instant. The Police would get involved, the society would get involved. It will be seen as a national scandal because the Gaijins saw it and that's bad.
Cover would just need to clean their asses by showing they care, Kurosanji would be caught pants down with the whole Selen thing and their shitty contract.
It would change the industry to the core.

>>71420065
>no one gives a shit about Petra

>>71420080
>Rosemi's debut is one hour before Suisei's birthday.
Wait WHAT? Jesus christ, and they potentially sat on this pre-recorded data for ages.

>>71415126
You know how movies move their release dates to avoid a major MCU or Star Wars or Harry Potter release?

>>71420482
>You know how movies move their release dates to avoid a major MCU
Stop living in 2020
>Star Wars
Stop living in 1980

>>71420080
>Rosemi's debut is one hour before Suisei's birthday
that doesn't sound right, Rosemi's 3D is at 9 pm EDT

>>71420620
That anon doesn't know how to read times apparently. It's 10am JST.

>>71420620
I don't remember well, but someone made a point that is before that, so they actually can time it if they wish.
>>71420423
Pre-recorded data? You think this will be prerecorded? Isn't a 3D debut suppose to be live?

>>71414514
Isnt Rosemi's 3D also falling on Suisei's birthday?

>>71420838
10 hour difference

>>71420600
retard

>>71420744
Looking back to Pomu's 3D debut, there definitely seems to be a lot of pre-recorded and edited skits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpuEQozRzJ4
I doubt the entire thing if any would be live. And I dont think Rosemi is in Japan either.

>Suisei
>being awake at 10 am

>>71420600
>1980
You can't even get your shitpost dates right, ROTJ came out in 1983

>>71420909
You're the retard if you think anyone cares about MCU or Star Wars movies in 2024.
>>71420980
Empire was 1980 and it is still the best one.

>>71414514
Humiliation ritual

>>71420958
>And I dont think Rosemi is in Japan either.
She is not, and she's been saying she is still working on it, so yeah it's prerecorded

Do you really think Kurosanji would let them do things without 15 layers of approval?

>>71421086
So...could it be that is heavily edited to cut out "problematic livers" and they know it's gonna look like shit with all the cuts?

>>71421037
Agreed, but ROTJ still made a shitload of money ($1.48 billion adjusted for inflation) and TFA is one of the highest grossing movies of all time adjusted for inflation ($2.71 billion)

>>71414567
guaranteed replies!

>>71421213
Selen wasn't in Japan as far as we know
She was missing in action while Rosemi and Petra were recording 3D as far as I can tell

>>71421213
Probably. It would've been interesting to find out what skits would've been included if Pomu and Selen were still on board, but Nijisanji had to pull a Nijisanji moment unfortunately.

>>71421501
Any chance this has been delayed so long that they had to edit out a Nina call in?

The overlap probably isn't that high (at least anymore) and it's a free event vs pay per view.
I don't think it's a problem for Petra.
Plus it'll probably be fun, Niji tends to do 3D events better.

>>71414514
Bully the penguin

>>71421794
She doesn't even have the balls to make an attempt smhmyhead

>>71414514
humiliation ritual for Riku

>>71417623
She gives the vibes of a soldier sent to a pointless suicide mission by an ungrateful and collapsing nation...

>>71415499
NijiEN has repeatedly shown a willingness to put their talents lives in danger and destroy their careers for life by using their chuubas as shields to protect management, either by pointing hundreds of thousands of tormented fans in their direction, or putting them up as a sacrifice before the angry mob.

If have an ounce of care for Petra's wellbeing or career, you want her out of that company ASAP. There's no signs of this company having significant change, so it's only a matter of time before she is the next Elira or Selen.

More likely the next Selen, save may haps successful, given her tweets (>>71418063).

>>71414514
I was planning on skipping the fes this year. This gives me an excuse to do it.

>>71422632
No you weren't faggot.

>>71414514
>No Selen
Grim…

>>71414514
Peter...

>>71419865
I mean niji literally debuted a wave during fes last year, I think they are well aware of cover at least.

>>71419984
>she would Chernobyl NIJISANJI instead
Offing herself on stage would Chernobyl Nijsanji, and indeed, the entire industry. Not that I think that Petra would sneak a wakizashi into the 3d studio, though given her vibes lately, I could almost see her making an attempt hours before she goes in.

She can't suddenly make a rant against Nijisanji on stage because, in addition to the fact that she'd get cut off in short order, she'd open herself up to being served for a defamation case, with a potential three year prison sentence, in addition to the massive fiscal penalties for violating the contract's "betrayal" clause.

>>71417623

>>71414514
>making her do raid boss alone
Black company…

Is this the sex with Petra thread?

>>71421341
>TFA is one of the highest grossing movies of all time
Cinema was a mistake.

>>71423243
This is the Petra public execution thread. Enjoy your stay!

>>71422386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R44cz2BOZbQ

>>71419984
That'd arguably nuke the entire vtubing scene, at least for all non-indies. Selen's sitch already got normies thinking that's how all corpos are.

>>71414514
>Ok, Petra, our stocks are down, our public image is broken beyond repair, and our competitor is about the hold the biggest vtuber event of the year. I'm gonna need you to beat them for us and save the company. Go get 'em, champ!

>>71425097
oh no! this literal who dies...
anyways~

>>71417623
Imagine if this was just niji bullying petra, and during the 3d event, you can see petra trying to compose herself as a bunch of green suit guys, vox being one of them, are taking turns in fucking her.

>>71424293
Sex with the loli penguin one last time

>>71414514
I want to fuck that penguin

>>71419983
so she's about to hit 500k then

>>71414514
My theory is that they’re doing this so that they can have data to point to so that they can say that 3D models for EN aren’t profitable, so they can justify not doing it.

>>71425207
As long as people can use her to smear Nijisanji's name, for mainstream audiences a literally who and gura look the same.

>>71414514
no one would watch it regardless which day it was on

What happened to Petra?

I keep forgetting that her and Koyori share the same mama.

>>71425979
What is she thinking right now?

>>71426099
bimbofication, many such cases

>Finally get a 3D debut, but the company schedules it at the exact same time as the biggest vtubing event of the year
>Close JP friend wanted to be in her 3D stream, but he ended up graduating before that could happen
>Petra helps out with Pomu's 3D, but now Pomu is shilling Holofes over Petra's 3D debut
There's nobody Petra can trust. The entire world has betrayed her.

>>71419984
And Chernobyl ruined public perception of nuclear power everywhere, even though it was caused purely by Soviet fuckups.

>>71415126
True!

>>71426455
not everyone

>>71418579
What if they, knowing her 3D will get completely ignored by non-niji audiences, decided to couple it just before holofes precisely because it'd seem like a scummy move, it certainly got us talking about it.
And then now that people now she's competing with it they may as well give her a watch if they were going to watch fes as well, or if you're already in the mood you just get a free pre-show.

Why does nobody believe Petra can do it?
Should everyone place their trust in her she will surely mog all of Hololive.
If we just have faith, surely Nijisanji will reveal a miracle to us.
And only then shall the money line rise from the ashes and ascend to the moon.

>>71426918
Rosemi is literally the new clique leader after Elira hung herself and got shadow puppeted by Millie

>>71427382
>Rosemi
>The new leader
roru
rumao even

>>71426455
>Close JP friend wanted to be in her 3D stream, but he ended up graduating before that could happen
Mayuzumi...? Not that many dudes have graduated in JP and especially ones I can connect directly to Petra. As for Pomu can she even talk about Niji directly?

>>71427835
>As for Pomu can she even talk about Niji directly?
Nope, and this is confirmed in the leaked contract.

>>71426099
I hate Niji so fucking much

>>71426164
Oh God, is she talking about those OOC shorts where every joke is that someone is really hungry?

People assuming that their is that much cross-audience between Hololive and Nijisanji but it has been proven many times before that isn't the case. If there is, it's pretty small like maybe 10%.

>>71428668
Well, they only watched like two people. There is a reason why holodachis and hologoons were a thing for a while and that overlap is pretty much now nothing when they aren't at the company anymore.

>>71428668
Regardless of confirmed crossover it's still pretty retarded to put out a 3D debut, which could have been any other date despite planning as there's no physical venue, right next to a massive Vtuber event which had been planned months in advance.

>>71428668
This
>>71428801
With Pomu and Selen gone and the circumstances of Selen's leaving there isn't a lot of Holo/Niji fans left. At best a few for the girls still in kurosanji like Rosemi, Petra, Vivi, Scarle
I have no idea what the thought process here was regardless. Plausible deniability when she gets terrible numbers? Punishment? I don't get it.

>>71414567
It's gonna have the same views as a Kiara JRPG stream

>>71414514
>3D debut with a graduation announcement followed by a raid onto the Fes stream
Come on Peter Griffin, it'd be epic

20K Minimum, CHADtomos don't give a fuck about a paywalled fes

>>71414514

she will be remembered as Koyoris obscure sister that graduated for nothing.
petra lived on her knees and she will die on her knees.

>>71431577
I only just learned Shiori had a sister in Nijisanji yesterday too. Just how siblings are there that are separated between corpos?

>>71414567

>>71425097
Ok and? Normies don't pay for stuff. Can't boycott stuff you weren't going to buy anyway

Can I get a QRD on Patra? What does she normally do? Was she in the ingroup who bullied Selen?

>>71415640
And everyone thought that Nina Kosaka was done with vtubing when she left Nijisanji.
And Selen had plans for her time in Niji in 2024.

Plans change. Petra might not currently be planning on returning to being a vtuber after leaving Niji, but she might change her mind - especially if she gets a manager who actually helps her, like all the other ex-Niji talents got.

>>71414514
I was membered to Petra before the males came (males are my only true filter). Despite me abandoning NijiEN since that point, and in hindsight this was a great call, I always held Petra in high regard as a person. She simply has her shit together in a fundamental sense, and I always found her charming and funny. There was never anything flashy about her but that was part of the appeal. She's cool in the same way as one of my oshis (Uruka, Phase). I'll watch her 3D.

Even though I can't and don't support girls who collab with males I'd be happy to know she's out there doing her thing just because she's a nice person. I hope that she leaves Niji behind and goes indie or joins some small corpo, even though she said she has no intentions of being a vtuber afterwards. The good thing about Petra is the fact she had and has a life outside vtubing, so to her it always really was just a hobby and not a lifeline or only saving grace. She's a smart girl, she can make it far in this world. But I still hope she continues being a vtuber in some capacity even if she graduates from Niji.

>>71414514
Holy fuck, even Japanese' attack on Pearl Harbor is not as self-destructive as this

>>71433961
Some niji male confused her with your pic related once.

>>71433319
boycotts don't do shit you vapid ass, but ruined public perception will kill any sponsorship or investors you have, nobody wants to be associated with you because they don't want any baggage that comes with it, and it will prevent them from significantly growing their audience further as they will always have that shadow looming over them, it's kind of a miracle this wasn't already the case after Doki.

>>71434231
And the timing of her 3D is even worse than that.
Not only was the Pearl Harbor attack not meant to be self destructive, it especially was not meant as a means to kill one Zero pilot in particular.

>>71433961
I'm >>71434012 so much of this is going off of how she was way back then, but in general "Patra" was a fan of Niji who became a vtuber as a kind of hobby, it wasn't her one shot at life or anything. She's a successful student and her focus was always on that. Vtubing is just something that she did for fun. As a person she's intelligent and has a strong will, which is the opposite of how she acts on stream. Her keyfabe was that she's the one getting bullied on stream by other chuubas, but all of them actually and explicitly said (after streams and streams together the fans were curious about the dynamic behind the scenes) that Petra takes shit from no one. She has an iron will and no insecurities. Consequently like others I think she was treated as an outsider by the clique because they couldn't really bully or threaten her in any way. I also doubt she ever played those shitty mindgames or conspired for or against this or that. It all kinda loops back to the mentioned fact that she was a fan who became a vtuber as a hobby and a fun thing to do, and it was never her goal or purpose to live off of it or pursue any tangible goal like popularity or being "the best." She was there to have fun, and things around her just went to shit in all the ways we all know.

tl;dr chances that Petra was anything but a bystander with no influence are zero in my mind.

>>71427835
>>71428377
I think she can, provided she doesn't say anything bad. It'd be unwise to do say anything negative while she's in Japan, as it'd open her up to criminal prosecution for defamation, in addition to AnyColor penalizing her for "betrayal" with surviving contract clauses. ...Assuming they can serve her before she leaves, but as she's attending school she shouldn't be that hard to find.

>>71420971
Didn't Shiraken stay up until 5am watching anime a couple of days ago?

>>71414567
Don't false flag like that man.

>>71426658
Bad management can happen anywhere. Just look at Nijisanji's nuclear meltdown.

...also wars happen, but I suppose that's a post-Soviet fuckup putting half a continent in danger.

>>71421641
The start of Fes is a 30min free taster of the ~3h concert, there's still competition for that

>>71428622
How hungry...?

>>71414514
to day "En audiences don't care about 3d" and deny for every talent looking forward.

>>71414514
You guys just don't understand, she will be remembered as the girl who fucking overlapped Hololive Fes, that's going to be her only legacy on the vtubing world

>>71428668
Speaking as that 10%, well maybe not, as I couldn't give a fuck about either event - not that I can watch Niji without betraying the talents anymore. Can't exactly support a company that abuses its talents, ruins their careers, and puts their lives in danger, and still call myself a fan.

>>71429147
If it's like the other 3D debuts, it's pre-recorded, so they could air it whenever they damn please.

>>71428668
10% of who?
10% of Petra's ccv is like 200 people, chump change for a HoloEn.
10% for Gura is 2k, more than most of NijiEN

>>71433961
She's an outcast who socialized more with JP than EN. Her PL also publicly supported a free Hong Kong, so it's unlikely she was bullying Selen. Also Petra and Patra are two very different people.
Petra is the Niji Penguin. She does/did graphic design for a lot of Livers.
Patra is a former member of 774 who is now independent and wrote FWMC's original song. Also very well known for her ASMR. The real kind, not that earlicking garbage.

>>71414514
Because they have one person doing the job of five people. So no one had the time to realize that was one of the worst times to do the debut.

>>71435514
To be fair, Millie is the size of 5 people.

>>71433319
Having a vtuber off themselves on stage would not simply lead to boycotts of Ninjisanji. It'd lead to sponsors, investors, and merchandise manufacturers not wanting to get their names mixed up with any vtubers at all. What's worse is that this would all move from just being Youtube news to being prime time news, and then even the Boomers would hear about it - and when Boomers get concerned, they like to legislate. Trade policies could thus easily come into play that would make Japanese vtubing impossible in the west, or even regulate vtubing in general to such a degree to make it practically impossible even domestically, by ending Section 230 to make Youtube liable for such instances or some similar such. Could also lead to trade policies making trade with Japanese anime companies in general difficult.

For the sake of all the talent's lives, the vtuber industry, and even for anime itself, NijiEN must die BEFORE they get someone killed.

>>71428668
I still have oshis in both companies, even if my kamioshi has graduated, and I don't think I'm the only one. I haven't been able to bring myself to watch my NijiEN oshis outside of third party clips and archives since the black screen video though. Not until they leave that hellhole. I'd basically be supporting their potential demise, either by suicide or murder, the way this company throws them under the bus for shiggles.

>>71435090
>10% for Gura is 2k
10% for Gura is 0

I mean she could serve as alternative for people who don't want to watch Hololive Fes 5

>>71436183
lmao true, but you know what I meant

>>71414514
I will watch her. I feel bad.

>>71434460
I largely agree with what you say from what I have seen of her and watched of her although never a full fan, but it does seem even she can't escape the issues of the company fully. >>71418063 if it is from her personal Twitter as has been posted many times over the past month does seem to indicate she is having her struggles as well with the entire thing and I don't blame her even if she is a solid girl, these circumstances will crack even the most hardened of people.

>>71435595
>NijiEN must die BEFORE they get someone killed
holy fuck you're funny

>>71436634
Obviously the things that happened will get to her, it's inevitable. I just don't think she's to blame for anything nor could she do more to help. It's one of those situations where whatever catastrophe is unfolding before your eyes is utterly beyond your control.

>>71414567
Thanks. I had a good hearty laugh at that one.

>>71415499
>Hangs out with Luca and the Clique
nah

>>71423168
This
keksanji just sinking to new depths
Makes me wonder if she even slightly went against the clique for them to do this to her

>>71414567
Add me in the screenshot

>>71436699
They nearly got Selen killed, and that isn't even the first attempt they've had under their watch.

To make matters worse, they told several hundred thousand angry Dragoons that their oshi might have been driven to suicide by her fellow talents in the termination notice, then put Elira, already rumored to be the queen bee, up on the sacrificial slab in front of an angry mob, just so she could say "she deserved it." (While also naming Enna and Millie who were already prime suspects.)

Then there's all the hundreds of thousands of sisters from all the other talent's fandoms who want Doki dead.

Meanwhile it's revealed that their contract more or less precludes Nijisanji from mitigating internal disputes between livers, making it a viper nest, and it's been revealed that they are humiliating talents (and artists) with public readings of all their "faults" and the like in positively cult like behavior that tends to lead to only one end.

Someone is either going to have a successful suicide or a successful murder, it's only a matter of time.

>>71415126
>Host a minor league baseball game during the super bowl.

>>71437109
She is working as an extension of her job duties as a translator for the other talents to and from JP HQ, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was why she moved over to Japan to study among other things. She may have had to get involved with Selen's situation because that tweet seemed to have been made after the timeline that Dokibird clarified that stated Selen wanted to graduate after that point and negotiations broke down. But it is fucked up knowing >>71435182 and that she had to experience this sort of situation twice. Wouldn't surprise me as people said, once she quits Nijisanji, she won't come back as a Vtuber anymore. I hope that at least she can enjoy and present to her fans what she wanted for this 3D. It is unreasonable to have the company treat this as a response to HoloFes and time it poorly and have the fate of the company correspond how well the stream goes.

>>71414514
Because she is graduating.

>>71437594
>It is unreasonable to have the company treat this as a response to HoloFes and time it poorly and have the fate of the company correspond how well the stream goes.
Given that they timed Selen's termination notice to coincide with Vanta's birthday, I don't think this branch pays attention to what's going on in its own calendar when scheduling events, let alone other company's.

>>71437342
oh my god please go back to rddt lmao

>>71437594
>once she quits Nijisanji, she won't come back as a Vtuber anymore.
I expect this as well despite my hopes. I just genuinely like her as a person even if she collabs with males. She just always gave me this pleasant vibe of a smart girl who just "feels right" if that makes sense. This old moon will always shine brightly upon her.

>It is unreasonable to have the company treat this as a response to HoloFes and time it poorly and have the fate of the company correspond how well the stream goes.
Absolutely true. The whole thing is nonsensical and borderline abusive and too high pressure for something that should just be a happy moment between her and her fans. Petra deserved better, far better than what she got in Niji. And she isn't the only one. It just shouldn't have ended up this way but here we are.

>>71437910
People around here have found cat killers with a blurry image of a mug. Most of NijiEN fans are Americans, many of them angry young men with large collections of guns just waiting for a just cause to use them, all of them one roadtrip away from Canada. Niji livers have doxxed each other before, and the company itself readily leaks confidential legal documents to people who aren't supposed to see them.

Only saving grace is that Selen wasn't GFE or any such, and thus likely only has so many psycho fans, but that doesn't hold for the fans that regularly express how much they want Doki dead.

But yes, complain about the Reddit spacing. Just don't say I didn't warn you when the whole industry implodes because of Niji's Wactor level fuck ups.

>>71434231
On September 24, the Operations Staff of the Naval General Staff held a conference on the proposed Hawaii attack. Yamamoto became enraged when he learned that once again the Naval General Staff had rejected his plan. On October 13, the Combined Fleet’s staff held another round of table maneuvers on Yamamoto’s flagship, the battleship Nagato, to refine aspects of the Pearl Harbor operation and to review the southern operation. The next day, there was a conference to review the plan, and where all admirals present were invited to speak. All but one was opposed to the Pearl Harbor attack. When they were done, Yamamoto addressed the assembled group and stated that as long as he was in charge, Pearl Harbor would be attacked.

>>71438408
I think you’ve spent your time watching too much Fox News or mainstream news. Most NijiEN fans are Asian women now, a Perfect Blue or Oshi no Ko or whatever would not happen to the female talents. Did you forget about Vox being stalked and doxxed in 2023, the sisters releasing Zaion’s doxx after her termination, or the kindred sent death threats when she interrupted his ASMR?
You also really need to consider that NijiEN had (keyword: had) male fans around the world. And from the fans that are photographed, very few males seem like the gun enthusiast type.

>>71418001
Stannis was absolutely butchered by DB & DB.
GRRM would never had him do that.

>>71414514
Because they wanted to give her this / use her tactically against Cover, before letting her graduate.

>>71439570
>NijiEN had (keyword: had) male fans around the world.
I was one of them. Years ago some Anon said it best - "The original English speaking Lazusydia fanbase was replaced by Chinese fujoshi."

>>71414567

>>71415546
>>71414567
lmao
It's not gonna be a disaster or anything, but I seriously doubt it'll go above 4 decafinanas, and I'm being generous.

>>71441703
Never, won't be more than 2. 2.5 at the absolute most.

>>71439570
Maybe you didn't see their analytics in the other thread, but there are a LOT of male viewers, and neither Vox nor Zaion were looking like they were responsible for a suicide attempt, at the time.

pulling a Vesper

Do niji and hololive even have significant overlap.
Is it even going to make a big difference?

Nene Amano doing horny girlfriend ASMR same time as Fest

>>71442713
I’m not sure what thread you’re referring to so I didn’t see the analytics yeah. Either way, I still feel like that one anon is greatly overestimating the amount of armed schizos there are in the vtuber fandom. They’re more like autists who would panic the moment when confronted with an actual drill sergeant.

>>71414514
Amateur numbermonkey here.
I do not expect any significant overlap in the audience that watches Hololive and NijiEN, so Petra's not going to be losing many viewers. What is going to be brutal however, is the comparison between these 2 streams.

I expect the catalog to be flooded with bait OPs.

99% of the people watching Holofes were never going to watch Petra. It'd be especially weird since apparently so many of the fans believe Niji is a black company and swore off watching them anyways.

>>71440175
That's something that's happened in GRRM's other books, though. I'm not saying it will happen, but a lot can happen in two books.

>>71444127
You are a faggot. Even I know there are still fans of both companies, but no one is gonna lose Hopofes over Petra.
They moved this shit one hour before, even, and she would have had more /#/.
Worse part is that the preshow seems before this time. So she’s going straght vs the main event. No chance to live.

>>71425401
Reminds me of a certain weather girl jav with Shibuya Kaho...

>>71416013
It might surprise you, but most people don't give a crap about the tribe rivalry, they just watch what they want, be it Niji, Holo or some other corpo or indie. These people will have to make a choice and it is not looking good for Petra.

>>71443882
I mean, the number might be low, but it's not zero, and only one has to succeed. One teenager with a gun caused two world wars.

>>71428668
If it was the 3D for a Nijimale, nobody would care that it overlaps with HoloFES, outside of the occasional screencap of the two CCVs for shitposting purposes.
Here however we are talking about one of the two (maybe three?) talents left in Niji that even those who are not Niji superfans still bother watching.
Petra's live audience absolutely has a big overlap with Hololive watchers, and even casuals would probably prefer watching one of the biggest event of the year of the most successful vtubing company over the 3D debut of a talent of a failing and scandal-riddled corporation. And considering that video description, she herself is aware of it.

>delayed 2 hours
what did they mean by this KEK

>>71437342
Someone schizo enough to go and start killing people over something like this doesn't need a justifiable reason to do it.
I mean, look at all the shit the anime/manga industry did over the years, all the times something happened that prompted countless death threats sent to people involved in that wolrd, and yet the burning of KyoAni, probably the biggest tragedy of the industry of the last 50 years, was done by someone over something dumb I can't even remember, not over whatever the internet was having a meltdown that week.

>>71450082
???

>>71450082
It's still at the same time

Petra's numbers are going to incline after she starts streaming, right? Please.

>>71452338
There's still an hour and a half until it starts so it'll obviously go up. I'm not confident it'll go up by an astronomical amount though.

>>71452338
Wait fuck, she's streaming today? Forgot about timezones. Hope her stream isn't overlapping whatever Cover's doing.

>>71452338
Petra waiting room mogged Finanan

>>71452774
Petra's not streaming yet. Still got ~2 hours before starting.

>>71452883
so they're having the stream on during the actual concert?

>>71452338
I hope so. It's not fair to her if this terrible timeslot causes the stream to not even hit 1k CCV.

>>71453104
Petra's 3D debut stream is going to be during the Holo concert, yes.

>>71453104
Would you expect anything less from bullysanji? If Petra doesn't somehow beat Holofes, then it will be HER FAULT that the company fails on monday.

>>71453104
Hopefully not, if Anycolor actually cared for her then they'd make sure the free portion of HoloFES does not overlap her debut.

>>71453377
jfc, they really want her to fail

>>71452338
She'll reach between 25 and 30 finanas I reckon.

>>71453515
I'd say around 20 Finanas desu.

>>71452338
Yeah, she'll be fine. Fine as she can be with all the debuffs that aren't necessarily her fault stacked against her, anyway.

So guys, are you watching Holofes right now?

>>71454545
No, I'm watching an autist play OoT Chaos Edition before bed. I might catch it in the morning, I'm not too familiar with Hololive but big events are always fun if I can find a dump of the whole thing.

>>71454545
Yup. Wish I did any moon reps though, but its cute seeing Roboco, AZKi and Watame though.

>>71456102
Watch more anime. I'm following 70% of what they're saying, no reps ever done.
They just skilled over Advent's cardboard cutouts. I'm fuming.

>>71452338
Tbh i am somewhat worried she will not go above 5k.
10k i am almost certain she will not reach.

>>71454183
Waiting room is past 6 fnn, I do believe the stream can get past 25.

>>71452338
Looks like she's up to bit over 6 Finanas with 35 minutes to go. I doubt she'll hit 5k. Mid-4view is probably the best she can hope for.

>>71414514
Petra is a nice girl who works really hard, I'm going to support her 3D debut!

>>71460869
tell her to get out of the burning building while you're at it too

Petra 30k believe it

>>71454545
yes and I'm going to watch Petra's CCV just to laugh at the sisters

>>71462248
Unlike Enna's birthday stream and the massive Niji EN/JP collab, I don't think I can get enjoyment from Petra's CCV being mogged. It's just sad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_YO0LLXYr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00xeNL3vdQo
GET INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

>>71462248
sisters don't care about her and will only pretend they do to use her as a convenient shield when they need one, so i can only feel bad for her

>>71463354
nah

>>71452774
I'd be surprised if this goes over 90 minutes personally. Doubt there's much overlap at all for online-only viewers despite the doomposting

>>71463856
Miko, Fubuki, Aqua and La+ are currently live on the Hololive YouTube channel.

I can't believe they pushed petra's start 2 hours BACK to line up exactly when the content was getting good, She MIGHT NOT EVEN BREAK DOKI'S STEAM SALE CCV for fucks sake.. i genuinely feel bad for her.., I hate niji so god damn much for what they've done to obydia

>>71464355
They just brought on shigure ui, it's beyond over for pengu

Over 40 finanas. Petrabros, we're so back.

Petra LOVE

Please don't use Doki's numbers to mog Petra. She doesn't Deserve this. Fuck Nijisanji for doing this to her.

>>71450376
The Japanese aren't nearly so heavily armed as their American counterparts. We've seen killings for far less around here.

>Riku- GOOD RUCKU
KEK

>>71418138
If you want to get (You)s the easiest way is say something retarded and shit on Holo
I guarantee there will be a horde of retards giving (You)s
It works everytime

>>71414514
Jesus fucking christ her mic quality is so fucking bullshit.

>>71465137
Please understand...

More people waiting for stage 1 to start than there are watching a niji 3d lol, lmao even

Stream has respectable Finanas to be honest, it not that bad...

Huh? not that bad

>>71453515
Running 56 finanas right now, surprisingly. Sad for a 3D debut, but not as bad as I was thinking it would be.

Granted, the Holofes waiting room is a bit over that, but her 3D debut may actually be over before it begins.

>>71465137
I guess someone else is using the one KU100 nlanycolor bought for the studio

at least she didn't get mogged by a waiting room

>>71465432
66 Finanas....how much of this is botting?

>20k for Petra
Let's go I'm happy for her.

>>71464355
>>71465351
It's okay bros. The penguin has more than Doki's steam sale and holo waiting room now.

>>71419760
>>71419706
The world doesn't revolve around Hololive
But this 3D directly overlapping is indeed fishy

it's literally a humiliation ritual lol
i bet she gets off of to this

>>71465738
Shut up and don't mention it for today. The odds are too stacked against Petra.
t. Holobrony

>>71465792
More than doki sure.. but hololive is up to 83k sister

>>71465504
We can even comfortably go into decafinana territory! As of right now straight up 7 dafnn!

>>71465792
I can't believe Doki simply buying Steam games netted 36+ finanas, but yes, it would have been really embarrassing if her stream didn't at least outperform that.

>>71465949
The waiting room is this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYftsj80IXM
Forget Petra, why the fuck is this a thing DURING Stage 1?

>>71466111
tbf, that waiting room is not counting the paid on SPWN and Stream+
but a win is a win, I'm glad for her.

>>71418261
Eh probably just graduation

>>71465792
>buying video games had half the viewers of a 3D debut stream literally a year in the making
Is that really a hill to die on, sister?

>>71466156
Cause it free for the fan of Star, they need something running while those doesn't pay premium price to check on I guess

>>71466260
That's what the other anon and I was talking about. It'd be fucking embarrassing if a 3D debut was beaten by a waiting room.

>>71466156
>holo vs holo
YAB

>>71465738
As the other guy said, just let her have this. Petra is one of the few good ones, and she's getting purposely fucked over by the company.

>>71466486
>Petra is one of the few good ones,
no shit she is management is actively trying to throw her under the bus by putting it today, they don't do that to good people
fucking sucks for her tho

Oh right, this was malesanji.

>>71466486
The only good niji is a terminated one

SHE BEAT THE WAITING ROOM!!!!

>>71466469
I'm a retard and can't read.

>>71466260
Do those other sites also list viewer numbers?

>>71466075
People LOVE shopping streams, And not just CCV wise, Doki got like 3600$ in supas today too, Scrolling through petra's supas.. all of the akas are in yen... which is a grim sign

>>71466908
>3D debut barely beat a waiting room by 1K
kek

>>71466810
She's very likely graduating. Her 3D debut's description has been a mere "Thank you." ever since the waiting room went up.

>>71466908
I wonder how many of her viewers are people taking pity on her and having both streams open

>>71466486
22k is a cute number.
But desu...it would had been far higher in any other time or any other situation. I am happy she didn't got fucked over,but the number is also not high enough so Niji can use as a shield...so win win?

>>71467274
I wonder if that means she AND wose are graduating, Hers is next week and you'd have to assume they'd have a gen collab after... maybe?, i don't know how it works for niji

>>71467264
She still got mogged

>>71467460
5view on a stream overlapping with HOLOFES is frankly impressive, The sisters are probably rallying the CCV in a last ditch effort

The flying Gremlin and the guy have talked more than Petra, is this Petra's 3d debut or theirs?

>>71466810
>Gundou

>>71467363
Tbh...she is probably having a lot.
People didn't felt happy she got screwed over. So having pity views makes sense. She still one of the few niji talents that there is considerable goodwill for.

>>71414514
The same reason Blizz shits out a patch every time a new XIV expansion launches.

>>71414514
I'm just gonna say it: Petra's 3D looks better than Koyo's. Much closer to their mama's style.

>>71466486
Seeing all of this just feels bittersweet. She finally has her 3d model but at what cost?

At this rate I just pray she'll be able to use her 3D model meaningfully before she retires.

>ethyria
Muted. Sorry Petra.

>>71467466
Personally, I'm still not convinced NijiEN will survive until Q4 ends. But if it does, it's a safe bet they will try to delay graduations until after that. It's already going to be a disastrous showing, but letting more people jump ship will just make it look that much worse.

>>71465792
>piece of fried chicken

Zuttomo is proof that Petra has not nor will ever be one of the good ones.

>>71467264
20k for 1 person vs 80k on the "biggest vtuber event of the year" honestly makes Petra look better in proportion.

>>71468641
Not really, it's the first 3D NijiEN has had in over a year.

>>71468344
qrd?

Everyone underestimates OBSYDIA. They besides Pomu are the best Shittysanji has. Selen, Rosemi, and Petra are/were underdogs.

>>71469102
What qrd? She actively chose to associate with Enna, Millie, and Reimu even making an official subunit with them.

All the guests sound so bored and like they don't wanna be there. Petra doing her best to carry it. Glad she's getting numbers.

Well here's the proof this is pre-recorded, They have a dead women on stream now, also GRIM

>>71469801
24k is huge considering the drama and overlap.

>>71469801
>proof that a 3D debut is pre-recorded
Anon, I...

>>71469957
It's kind of amazing how many people think 3Ds are all live... and by amazing i mean really sad

>>71470149
Performances can be live but there's always going to be a prerecorded segment, and heavily scripted debuts like these with multiple guests are almost always precorded.

>>71468641
The entirety of remaining Niji fans VS Hololive's broke gang, that's not a good look Anon...

Time for some full power advent KINO, Watch this do better numbers

>>71471182
(Me) WHOOPS wrong picrel.. hah...

Nah i changed my mind, Pengu can burn with the rest of the organs, Interesting song choice too considering

>>71471313
Adventrix anon atleast link the stream next time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y69ee5hIW48

>>71468070
They can hold them hostage for a long time, but there are limits. I'm sure we'll see some graduations before Q4.

Besides, AnyColor will just quote the percentage of graduations against all the vtubers in the entire industry, thus claiming to have a 97% retention rate, just like they did for JP in Q3.

>>71469801
It's gonna look really bad wheb they try to use this as proof that elira is still alive

>>71472211
>AnyColor will just quote the percentage of graduations against all the vtubers in the entire industry, thus claiming to have a 97% retention rate, just like they did for JP in Q3.
By the gods was that ever ballsy.

Riku THE GOAT made virgin Yagoo delay the concert until Petra3D was ending, based #FloatTheYacht