/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

It was the straw that broke the camel's back. I am not a regular, perse, but the cracks were showing for months now. This was simply so egregious that it finally tipped the scales.
Also, before to any NDF members that would appear: What inspires you to fight? Why do you defend a company of a greedy man with such vigor?

>>71414582
The current drop in their stock is due to their report before EN started collapsing this year. Wait until the next report, things are only getting started.

>no one:
>absolutely no one:
>Nijisanji: REEEE THE BITCH TRIED TO KILL HERSELF BECAUSE WE BULLIED HER BUT WE NEVER BULLIED HER I SWEAR WE CHECKED OURSELVES OKAY TRUST US BRO ANYWAY SELEN BAD CAN YOU BELIEVE SHE DIDN'T ANSWER OUR SPAM CALLS IT'S NOT LIKE DOCS TAKE AWAY THE PHONES OF SUICIDE ATEMPTERS OR ANYTHING ANYWAY SELEN BAD SHE NAMED ELIRA ENNA AND MILLIE IN A CONFIDENTJAL DOCUMENT FOR FUCKS SAKE WHICH WE GAVE EVERYONE TO READ WHICH IS TOTALLY NOT BREACHING ANY CONFIDENTIALITY OR ANYTHING ANYWAY SELEN BAD SHE'S THE DEVIL HOW DARE SHE TRY TO KILL HERSELF TO GET AWAY FROM US WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS TEXT TEXT TEXT WORDS WORDS TEXT WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS TEXT TEXT TEXT WORDS WORDS TEXT WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS TEXT TEXT TEXT WORDS WORDS TEXT ANYWAY SELEN BAD SELEN BAD SELENSELENSELENSELENSELENSELEN
>W-why is everyone looking at us like that???

>>71414582
I think the current sister narrative is that she is a cold and evil backstabber, who pretended to try to kill herself to ensure clout.

Took them a while (sisters are not exactly smart) but they realized that the suicidal BDP menhera narrative just made their waifu, Nijisanji, look even more pathetic.

>>71415265
Its basic sunk cost fallacy, they don't want to admit they've been simping for an absolute loser corp for so long so now they just deny reality the same way Trumpcucks still simp for him even when he betrayed them a dozen times over such as by pushing vaxx and backstabbing the july 7 people. At the end of the day its just about protecting the ego and not wanting to admit they are cucked and manipulated useful idiots.

All they had to do was give her the graduation she wanted.

>>71414582
Honestly, it's even funnier than that, because the Q3 earnings stop at Jan 31, and everything that has happened since will be covered in the Q4 report which is going to be hilarious to read.
>Fired one of their largest EN livers when NijiEN's YoY earnings were down ~41%
>Many of the EN livers didn't stream for a significant portion of Q4
>Almost every EN liver lost at a full month of channel growth, with most of the larger EN channels losing up to 10 months of channel growth
>Only a few channels are even starting to recover subs, many are remaining stagnant or STILL losing subs, likely due to their lack of activity
>EN viewership is down, SCs are down, EN livers are being pulled from events
>Several companies which had partnerships with NijiEN pulled out of their deals

>>71415486
This post belongs in a youtube comment section, not here.

>>71415956
It's not going to work. Termination or graduation. The fate of NijiEN had already been decided by the graduation of Pomu. When she left, Nijisanji will die, Selen's termination just sped up the process. Everyone that has a brain of a five years old already knew that. The rest of us were just in denial. Elira would have known about that too, but you can not leave if unless allowed to. After Pomu the graduation slot had already clogged up. NijisanjiEN did everything in their power (even shitty decisions) just to try and not making Selen leave. Let me tell you a fact that there's no such thing as bullying. It's just an excuse to save face for the JP-EN managers. They cared about their honorable bullshit more than their own livers while working half asses and left everything else to the livers

>>71414582
THE SELEN SHOCK

>>71414582
Anon that was only the Q3 report. The actual shitshow is yet to come

>forced out highest earning female EN chuuba by killing her projects
>bullied and terminated highest subbed chuuba and calling her termination negligible
I hope this kills Niji and makes them withdraw from the English market. Their death will my biggest joy.

>>71415686
>They realized
You took a pause from the board, did you? Connecting neurons isn't the strong suit of Riku's fanbase.

>>71416118
>fired one of...
Mind you, she was about to leave after Pomu. NijisanjiEN actually didn't want her to leave. But for a shitty company as it was, everything that required money always the livers used their pocket money to make on their own. Especially 90% of the MVs were actually paid by livers and the company will still take half of the profit.

>>71415265
This. With Q3 out, we know they needed Q4 to be an absolute hit. They didn't want her to graduate because she was Gen 2, they ended up nuking themselves.

And then they repeated the nuke by killing some of their best talents for a smear campaign when she actually defended them even after the black video. Sisters then got baited into attacking her and made things worse.

It's a shitshow of spectacular fashion. Part of me don't want Anykuro to fail because it would be so many job losses and model fucked...but the other part yearns for what will happen once the company is gone and NDA are nulled by its death.

>>71416352
Honestly if you still believe "Elira is good" you should drag the company down too. If she gets into JP, she's gonna be tear apart for being a Gaijin of a failed branch who got too many advantages. It will be hell on earth.
The truth will set you free moment.

Hololive was lucky because they had Yagoo. The man gives zero fuck to the investor and invests nearly everything back to help his talents and built actual places and hired actual babysitters to take care of his little children. If you threw gura into nijisanjiEN she'll drink to death because of how miserable it was here.

>>71416751
If Elira was good, her friends will save her. There's nothing to worry about. I don't throw hatred towards people. She's too young to be given up on.

>>71414582
Their stock was going to fall regardless of selen, but selen’s situation certainly amplified the fall.
Why? Because niji lost all of its credibility in here and shattered any expectations of growth.
Riku can’t bullshit his way out of that hence the ACCELERATED fall.

>>71416676
If the company dies any and all accountability within dies with it. The people who caused the problems will just drift to a new corpo or pretend they weren't involved in the problem when going solo. It's like "lemon" teachers honestly. Kyo is a textbook lemon, solely carried by the people he knows and possessing an arrogance of knowing those people will protect him from all his fuck ups(or so he thinks).

>>71414582
Why does everyone memoryhole Zaion? She sowed the seeds, Selen just threw on fertilizer and harvested them.

>>71417018
Who?

>>71417018
No, anon. The sign already happened in JP before the expansion. Everything just caught up to them. Riku simply doesn't care.

>>71416352
>>71416917
Eliraschizo is officially the new Ennschizo

Ah, since Elirafag is here, wanted to ask:
Which one of her streams has the most GFE energy? Asking for a friend.

>>71414582
They haven't even gotten to her quarter yet

>>71414582
>collapse
I wish.

>>71417465
https://youtu.be/o65VwnQvWW4

>>71416352
If there’s no such thing as bullying then Vox would never say “in my opinion it wasn’t harassment”,

>>71417339
I like eliraschizo.
He seems civil and rational, unlike ennaschizo.

>>71417693
>Jealous GF sabotages female coworker you watched and bullies her to suicide so she can have you to herself
k...kino? I love Elira now?

>>71416497
I can't even imagine the shit show Q4 is going to have, especially after both last night's stock plummet and the projected monday plummet.
I wonder if we're even going to see Q4, Anycolor might just fold before then.

>>71414582
>little
I thought Selen was fat

>>71417018
zaion wasn't the first and clearly wasn't the last. the whole thing with selen was a mixture of her being too large and part of the old guard, so it was impossible to sweep under the rug and say "oh new hire didn't work out boo hoo." combine that with her actively speaking out instead of either keeping her head down or only making a few "read between the lines" comments like some JPs have in the past, and like the other anon said it was merely the straw that broke the camel's back and woke everyone up.

>>71414582
Many such cases actually

>>71415265
THIS. This is why things are so bad right now.
The entirety of 2023 was full of bad individual moments that don't seem that bad at first sight, but kept on accumulating enough that Selen's situation was the one that broke the camel's back

You had the Zaion situation at the beginning of the year that, while it was still bad, they eventually managed to move on from it only for Nina to graduate, then Mysta, then everyone in the branch took turns traveling to Japan for god knows what reason and not streaming for weeks, even months. Then nothing was announced at NijiFes except for merch, with almost noone streaming either because they were having another meetup in Japan.

And if you thought 2024 was going to get better then they dropped Pomu's graduation, Selen's month long silence and Kyo's graduation (which almost got ignored by Selen's termination notice being such big news)

So yes, the cracks were showing up for a long, long time. Selen's termination just broke the dam.

>>71417797
True, Enna-schizo is on some real sunken cost fallacy, the readings are off the charts

>>71415470
According to said report, EN was already collapsing.

>>71417797
I didn't even know there was en Eliraschizo. Ennashizo can go burn in a pyre though, he's not even funny

>>71419111
>>71417797
Nothing better than a respectable foe, no?

>>71420416
Before the Eliraschizo would post large paragraphs in capital letters every day (every thread?) about how amazing and lovable Elira while praising NijiEN and posting links of upcoming streams of everyone. Every post was unique. He did it a lot less when the luxiemsisters started flooding /nijien/. The GC stream broke his heart and stopped making those posts ever since.

>>71421468
Such a sad state of affairs for him. I genuinely hope he will find a better oshi for himself. Such a two-faced snake doesn't deserve his allegiance.

>>71421673
Elira wasn't even in the GC stream but IIRC he was sad that the livers only focused on the negative posts and ignored of all the positive ones.

Ha Ha laughs intensify as Niji stock nose-dives.

>>71421840
With good reason.

>>71414582
It's not the firing, it's the completely idiotic handling of every single Public Relations and Human Resources aspect of the firing. If they had let her go quietly she'd be a 3 view indie and the clique would still be a proofless schizo rrat.

>>71415760
It's sad to see friends now who fell into nijisanji while exclusively ignoring both holo and small corpo and indies for some reason. Now it looks like a literal bagholding mentality like a Gamespot ape still diamondhanding stock that's never going to rise again. One of them still stans Uki even after all the radioactive things he said, and it's someone I always thought was a reasonable critical thinker.

>>71417877
Only thing that could save them now would be a merger with Brave

>>71416776
Yagoo will continue to be as celebrated as he is in the futile hope that whoever succeeds him will want to follow his example, but his departure will most likely be the beginning of the end.

>>71424155
I have a feeling A-chan will most likely succeed him.

>>71415265
I love Elira and Vivi, they enjoy their jobs; ergo I will defend niji to the death. Also I hate that lying grifter Selen.

>>71424821
>Grifter
Still don't get this angle, what did she exactly grifted? I'm curious what's the new mental gymnastic to justify hating someone who defended the livers too.

>>71424906
I think it might have something to do with Selen mentioning her expenses that one time and that gave sisters casus beli to call her a grifter who was only in it for the money.

nijisanji should merge with what's left of wactor.

>>71425001
The only ethical vtuber is the one that takes out large loans that they know they can never pay back to continue an unsustainable streaming career yes yes? And any complaints about losing money no matter how casual = grifting. I pity the sisters, their IQ is so low that they probably wouldn't be able to survive in the real world without their parents' protection.

>>71424906
They don't know what grifter means. They think it means "bad greedy person bad"

>>71417339
No, Ennaschizo is a lunatic anti who can't let Enna go. I like this guy. He's not that negative.

>>71415760
>"M-MUH DRUMPF!"
Rent free. Biden lost and had to cheat btw.

>>71425294
Is this the same guy that always says Irys has a flat voice?

>>71422932
>defends Uki
>someone I always thought was a reasonable critical thinker
That sounds like a (You) problem, anon. Try to learn more about critical thinking, it's not just spouting counterarguments and talking with FalseEyeD's voice tone.

>>71425327
No, that's just a guy that's been baiting people for 3 weeks now. You'll see Enna images and you know it's someone fucking with you.

>>71424821
I like Vivi too but you can't possibly think she still loves her job after both her oshi's are gone and the environment around her is on fire. If anything I would want her to get out of there so her potential isn't getting dragged down

>>71414582
>little

The fact that there's a graduation queue is so fucking funny to me.

>>71425299
NTA, but as one of the anons who shitposted for him in /pol/ before it was popular enough, he's no saviour, he's just the lesser evil, which says a lot.
>>71415760
Anyways, why are you both going (>)MUH DRUMTPH outside /pol/?

>>71414582
She was just the finishing blow

>>71425595
You usually queue up to get inside places, not fucking get out of 'em. What kind of work environment does NijiEN have that would make it so a fucking queue to LEAVE is even a thing?

>>71425770
Because graduations are Niji's buff content. You don't just drop buff content, you space it out.

>>71414582
The situation could've been contained, but NijiEN panicked HARD and threw water on burning oil instead of just turning off the heat and putting the lid on.

>>71416676
Niji collapsing would be good for vtubing. They're such an albatross on everyone and they give power to the worst most petty people. There's better corpos now as an alternative and people are more open than ever to indies

>>71425862
Why contain it? S'cool.

>>71426112
My only concern is what happens to the Luxiem sisters? What are they going to move onto and infest?

>>71426364
Probably back to kpop and/or kdramas.

>>71426364
Whatever they do I hope they leave and never come back.

>>71425345
Hey I didn't say defends, I said stans. I don't argue to people about the things they like. I keep my unwanted opinions to myself and anoymous internet forums, thank you. My friend can enjoy whatever entertainers they want but that doesn't preclude me having an unspoken opinion on it.

>>71414582
The Franz Ferdinand of vtubing

>>71415486
>Selen BPD
>Selen lying, she doesn't have receipts (like it fucking matter at this point,lmao)
>Lawyer bad
>stocks good
>contract is fake and illegal to share at the same time
>Elira bait posting
>EN won't fold (partially true it would be admitting they fucked up)
>Nijisanji and Hololive are both sinking.
Sisters already burned every bait post, they have nothing now.
Hell they can't even pretend Q4 will save them because not even the 39IQ menheras believe it.

>>71417018
Zaion walked so Doki could run

>>71417018
Doki was Chernobyl, but Sayu was Ignalia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignalina_Nuclear_Power_Plant#Incidents

>>71418145
Another thing was the timing of the black stream
Every person who watched that also checked out Doki's stream and the contrast between a pre-recorded character assassination and a girl just trying to play Neopets having a breakdown and looping herself for 10 minutes turns even the biggest fence sitters into a Niji hater

>>71414582
All they had to do was not do a smear campaign on her

>>71414582
And its not even Selens fault.
They did well in merch but had absolutely 0 events to help with the income.

Something must happened last year when that one event got cancelled due to "Covid".

If it really was due to Millie's stream somehow, holy shit.

>>71429230
I dunno why they thought bullying Doki live while alleging that they were not bullies was gonna work out.

>>71429342
>Elira would betray her sister
>Zaion was trying to prevent the apocalypse
>Millie's -3 INT
They're playing into the kayfabe too hard. Millie being retarded being what started the decline of the EN branch's golden age would be too funny

>>71431680
That lore fanmade, it's not kayfabe. It's actually an unwitting schizo prophecy.

>>71431680
It all adds up to nicely and it also works if you assume management is essentially non existing.

I have my rrat that Millie and crew did that stream without consulting management and someone higher up cracked down and decided to cancel the EN event as punishment

>>71414582
You really think that?

>>71432394
This is like a kid misbehaving and the parent quitting his job to teach them a lesson. The only one impacted is the company.

>>71414582
>little

>>71427273
Oh, I see. His style probably appeals to him, and yeah, better leave it like that. Just keep it in mind for your critical thinking assessment of him.

>>71424906
she faked multiple suicides for pity views and sympathy money. oldest woman scam in the book. One I might have believed, but you try to kill yourself twice because you don't get an MV put out fast enough?! are you fucking serious?

>>71425459
she seems quite happy on stream and Twitter. It's not a fucking death camp, these people get to sing and play video games from the comfort of their living room for more money than most people make wage slaving away for 40+ hours a week. Is it hololive millionaire straight cash homie? no, obviously not. But it's still a dream job for a lot of people, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

>>71438070
Sorry that everything's going to shit for you, sister.

>>71425595
who says there is? oh right, schizo rratspinners /here/ and shitflinging people with an axe to grind. not exactly credible, I'll believe Vox over them

>>71438241
oh everything is fine for me, I'm a casual niji viewer, I prefer idol and hololive. but I still hate Doki and the clown show she caused because she got her panties in a twist at not getting to do her special snowflake vanity projects. just shut the fuck up and stream like everyone else, goddamn

>>71438241
You have to be retarded if you're staying in this sinking yacht.

>>71438512
>I'm a casual niji viewer, I prefer idol and hololive
Sure sis, sure.

>>71438512
>I'm a casual niji viewer
Nijinigger

Remind that the Seren Shokku has still yet to come, they can't BS out of Q4.
INB4 Merge & acquisition.

Preview of Riku Q4 investor meeting.

>>71414582
>>71415265
>>71415470
>>71415486
>>71415686
>>71415760
>>71415956
>>71416118
Nothign is going to happen with Nijisanji/Anycolor. They will just get rid of the cancer that is EN and keep on going like nothing happened.

>>71438512
>idol fan
Slutlover detected, opinion discarded.

>>71439046
JP isn't doing so well either.

>>71439046
>nothing is going to happen
>they're only going to amputate themselves from the hips down
>this isn't a bad thing
Hey Einstein, EN's on your side.

>>71439187
JP is growing YoY

>>71439352
>growing
They literally said five different times in the document that this quarter was a massive boon because Nijifes getting delayed meant it happened during it as compared to the same quarter last year. And it was only up 6% from said quarter, when their expectation was for it to go up 28%.

>>71438070
They weren't faked, and you know they weren't faked. And that wasn't the only reason for it, which you ALSO know, but you're a shit slurping NDF shill so I guess you're obligated to fling out retarded bullshit in every post, right?

>>71435085
The company has proven itself to be just that petty. The talents working for Anycolor are gaslit into believing they're nothing without the company, and they will make you regret trying to leave on your own terms.

>>71416629
I still can't fucking grasp the thought process. Selen was a money printer. She funded everything herself. She organized everything herself. She pumped out projects like a goddamn faucet. She even got perms on her own. All they had to do was let her do her thing and she'd be doing all of this doki shit for THEM. for effectively free! She loved the concept of the company and constantly involved the other organs and company any place she could, and yet they broke her and refused to let her do anything. It's just baffling to me how a money oriented company wouldn't just... greenlight everything she attempted or god help us give her an assistant or actual manager to be even more efficient.

>>71442717
Have you ever heard of this thing called a desire for control? It kills all these types of projects.

>>71438223
Yeah but at the same time, Niji restricts what kind of other work they can do, and there's no doubt that Kunai made more money and had a bigger following as an Indie than she ever did at Niji.
Also Vivi apparently worked for a pretty rich streamer as a secretary who's known for overpaying the fuck out of his employees.

>>71443763
OL vivi...

>>71443763
>Also Vivi apparently worked for a pretty rich streamer as a secretary who's known for overpaying the fuck out of his employees.
Fucking what? How do you throw that away?

>>71439523
there's attempted suicide then there's "attempted" "suicide". You don't take a few extra aspirin if you're serious, just if you want attention

>>71447654
She wanted to be a vtuber at a big vtuber corp. And technically, she did make it...

>>71450746
Oh I'm glad you know what method she used. Can you use your psychic powers to tell me the lottery numbers?

>>71414582
The funniest part of this whole mess is actually that this stock crash probably would have happened regardless. EN was performing terribly either way.
The next quarter results will be fun to watch.

>>71414582
They fired her only after bullying her, pushing her to attempt, suddlenly trashing all her work and slandering her

>>71450992
The monkeys paw curls.

>>71442717
Because the individual she had to go through to get anything approved was also a talent, who despised her, hated her go-getter mentality, hated that she was more popular and wanted to sabotage her in anyway they could. Right up to getting her terminated.

nijisanji jp can and will recover back to their height 2 years ago, they will hire new talents to replace graduated id members like mika, en branch is recovering slowly from the backlash but they desperately need to find someone to replace pomu and selen's pulling numbers combined. vox ? hasnt streamed in over a month, damaged his reputation in elira's black stream and cancelled out most of his old moneymaking asmr videos. a new en talent that would not cuck their fans (make sure that the talent's contract has a clause that bans any mixed gender collab participation) and attract drama like a magnet will be a welcoming addition. hopefully the recruitment team is doing their job.

>>71450992
>stated her oshis were pomu, selen, and chihiro
that gal is cursed, I say

>>71450746
You know that Anycolor has her diagnosis, right? Given everything you know about Nijisanji's incredible decision-making prowess, do you not think they would have fired back by casting doubt on her attempt? That's the one thing they never did. Even during the black screen video, when they were actively trying to make her look like the problem, they still never tried to argue that her attempt wasn't a serious one. In fact Vox outright said the opposite. He said, and I quote, "Her attempt on her life will never ever be something to be taken lightly". Why are you disobeying milord, sister?
https://youtu.be/o65VwnQvWW4?t=625

>>71451970
And the fact that Pomu and Selen were her oshis...

>>71452999
Man it’s hilarious that even the “Selen lied about attempted suicide” defence doesn’t work because of Niji. Kek

>>71452068
take pills

For Niji to become a white company, or at least a decent company, it needs to be acquired by a third party who is a decent person and has a passion for the industry.
Given Riku's personality, I don't think he can run a business properly.
He himself admits that he doesn't have the patience or passion for Vtubers.

>>71452999
I think what the sister is saying is she didn't make a suicide attempt, she made a "suicide attempt". Like Michael's. The problem with that logic is that we have ever reason to believe Miguel was faking it between her past, others reactions, and her saying explicitly what she was doing which are pills: the #1 in "I want attention" and #10000 on "I want to kill myself".

With Doki, we have zero history of suicide attempts, the people around her were shocked and immediately supported her, the people who caused it spent basically every single second shooting themselves in the foot publicly, and we don't even know how she made the attempt in the first place. There's literally no reason not to believe it was a real thing beyond "I don't like her", which is more flimsy than the paper worth more than Enna's entire bank account.

>>71453545
I got a bit of cough-and-plegm situation going, the cold meds help. Thanks for looking out for me though.

>>71454582
It's possible Doki tried the booze and pills route, which would be worse as it wouldn't have been an attempt, but a method of trying to numb the pain. Still considered suicide attempt technically, because it's not hard to just fucking die on that shit.

This is just my fucking rrat because that's generally how deeply stressed people go about shit like that. But really anything's possible.

>>71454582
All the pro-Doki arguments are the same level of "LISTEN AND BELIEVE" type shit as the stuff you get out of sisters. I'm getting real tired of seeing this shit pop up on the front page every day. I hope someone spills the beans on this shit so it can die already.

>>71452068
Elira is in charge of collaboration management, at best. All the decisions that required perm to upload anything like MVs or concert, merch, voice pack, graduation, termination... have to be approved and decided by a higher management. I believe. Everyone seems to forget that's one man that provided and forced Sayu to signed that one silencing contract. His method worked, since he worked in the other company. All the hatred directed towards the livers as he planned and none of the livers that worked and signed that contract were brave enough to go against him.

>>71455582
The difference between the two lines of logic are clear. One assumes the worst in Doki, and one assumes the worst in Niji. We've only exclusively seen the latter. I don't disagree with people who won't just mindlessly believe Doki but saying they're both equally the same probability is the real delusional thing.

>>71455582
All the anti-doki stuff is just the arguments of fujoshis who hate all female chuubas and I'm getting real tired of seeing that shit in the catalogue.

>>71455897
You're replying to a sister; there will be no sensible conversation with them.

>>71452068
I love this. People are armed with the "facts" they got from I don't know a bunch of posts about RyuuseiNova's twitter and a bunch of baseless speculation about management. This makes them experts on the subject matter, actually no. Not experts but clairvoyant mind-readers who can deduce intent and motive from thin air. Yeah, we'll go with that. Elira envied her so much that she just had to set it up so she "kills that bitch accidentally". When that didn't work she used her Anycolor COO powers to terminate Selen. How she got that power and what I proof I have for that? Well, it was revealed to me in a dream and she had her sexy office lady clothes in that dream.

>>71456034
Jesus, I thought some goslingposting anons were deranged but these ladies take the cake.

>>71456335
Yeah sure let's just ignore the absolute retardation kurosanji has been handling Nijien with...

>>71451311
it doesn't take psychic powers retard. within a week she was already getting merch lineups ready, don't be so naive, take her dick out of your mouth and think

>>71452999
bad PR, you can't mock mentally deranged sewersliders even if it's warranted. bleeding heart faggots will always side with them, as is clearly evident

>>71457333
Don't put words in my mouth. I never implied that Nijisanji, Anycolor and their management team had clean hands. There's already had substantial evidence for mismanagement, conflict of interest, the incredibly slow pace of perms and any management replies from all the linkedin stuff relating to that UMG "Harry" guy, the waitress he brought on as a nepohire and the entire management team being part time. And yet there is hardly any proof for Elira's involvement in this management bullshit. Why is that?

>>71457333
There's gargantuan leap of logic between 'Elira is favored by the management' and 'Elira is the management'

>>71458020
>sewersliders
Are you back? Please post one of your Enna images as confirmation.

>>71458348
So are you saying Elira does "favors" rather than being the closest thing to management in NijiEN

>>71458141
Then tell me fellow famelira why is elira has the most merch compared to her comrades there? It's like she's favored a lot lol

>>71457823
My cousin cut his throat open with a razor blade and was out after two weeks.

>>71457823
So you know specifically when it happened? The actual specific date of her trying to off herself? Please enlighten me.

>>71457333
>assuming it was only nijien
The JP side has far worse PR and drama. The way they handle shit has never changed. This only gives me the conclusion that what happened in EN was infacted indirectly caused by the higher up. At this point I'm not sure if I shouls call them managers because they don't function as one. They don't know what they were doing most of the time and outright refused Pomu's ideation. If it was Elira I'd believe she would choose to go along with Pomu's and Selen wasn't even a problem since it was her using her own money to fund her project. But she couldn't get through approval from the higher up, the ones that don't care about your branch at all and only cared about the money they invested in the stock. These kind of people want to feel in charge and money. If you have ever dealt with these asshole japanese managers that took this job because they were one of the investors you'd understand. They'd destroy the whole business they worked in and they got the fuck out while using the workers as shield and blamed all their failures on them. In reality they were the one making those fuckup decisions. That's why I don't blame Doki nor anyone else. Because she wasn't the one that caused the problems here.

>>71458579
I am saying that it is unlikely that Elira had any authority in the conflict between selen and the management.

>>71415470
Would you go short?

>>71439046
Would you go long?

>>71457823
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1738433076479525110?t=wBCqxpeQZP-etd33vShMug&s=19

the merch store she had been planning to make available since December of last year? what kind of fucked up week do you have where it lasts over a month?

>>71458670
Yeah, I guess so but that's the decision of the marketing department. I don't know why she's favoured and I don't have the evidence to make any claims. I'm going to maintain the position that she is innocent and I will only change my mind when I see something substantial to prove otherwise.

>>71429342
There's really nothing happened in that cancelled event but more of an unplanned mess and they think they can record all of them without issues which FAILED spectacularly

>>71459284
You know what they say, girls go to Jupiter to get stupider.

>>71458670
She took on the job of managing many shit in EN without payment. But approving and getting perms, graduation, suspesion, termination, giving notes,... are not one of it. Those things required higher management.

>>71439352
You did not read the Q3 report then.

>>71458867
My stance has always been that Niji management, the actual corpocucks themselves, have been the common denominator. It's possible responsibilities have been pushed onto talents themselves.

Also remember, the whole trend of talents being treated as shills came from Millie trying to say Kurosanji wasn't a black company. I kind of blame Millie for all of this shit.

>>71459284
Okay, this is where things don't line up for me. I'm sure I'll get some accusations leveled at me for "victim blaming", but this is shit I've hear from doki fans themselves. Especially some of the more loopy ones who scoured the Last Cup of Coffee video for hidden messages as if it was some esoteric gnostic text. Their claim was that song was picked specifically as it ties into her previous graduation on her PL account when she abandoned it to pursue a career in NijisanjiEN and that this Selen version was a "suicide note". So basically them denying her perms for this or telling her to wait and this interpretation of her planning to use that song as a swan song for her Niji career just makes it seem like she pulled this stunt on purpose to get herself fired or in hot water. I'm not saying that's exactly what happened, but it's a theory. That explains why she refused to wait and why she asked people to spread it around. All this just says that this whole thing was planned. If this would prove true it would make the suicide attempt dubious too, but we don't know that for certain. What do I know? I can't tell her motives. See? We can speculate on anything because there is no information.

>>71460277
>Also remember, the whole trend of talents being treated as shills came from Millie trying to say Kurosanji wasn't a black company. I kind of blame Millie for all of this shit.
It wasn't just Millie, it was Luca too. They basically said the same thing but at different times. I can get why'd they say such a thing, they've got a pretty good gig going over at Niji. Even with the corpo's cut it's basically free money and in the case of Luca he didn't have to do anything for it, he had his hag slave do it for him. Millie has nothing to go back to really, I guess Lyrica and Luca? What the fuck was Luca before this? An e-stripper?

>>71460305
NijiEN stated at one point (it might have actually been in the termination document, I can't really remember) that she'd asked to leave. So I think it's more likely she reopened the merch shop in the hopes of going indie after graduation and the Last Cup of Coffee was less of a suicide note and more of a last big project before going.

>>71460305
>See? We can speculate on anything because there is no information.
Well there is information. Perms were given in August of 2022.
https://twitter.com/LilyPichu/status/1754736476762640409
If Selen had been planning her suicide for almost a year and a half, she wouldn't have failed and she certainly wouldn't have done two. It would've had some "I'm going to isolate myself lose contact with my family and take out a loan to go on a roadtrip across country lines to die under a bridge in Minnesota"-tier planning behind it and nobody would have ever heard about her again. There is zero reason to believe it was a suicide note.

>>71459328
If i were her I would 100% question mgmt that other should get a fair slice of merch she got, sinfe they are in this shithole already might as well share that success, yet she didn't just accepted every shit lol

>>71461688
I'm just regurgitating what lunatics on this board said. You can look it up in the archive. This is all on NijiEN management's hands at the end of the day.

>>71460305
The claim is that she wanted it to be her last project before she graduated from NijiEN. Because, as you said, she sang it during her graduation as Doki. Management decided to fuck with her again; as they had been doing for at least a year at that point. She broke down and decided to kill herself. So she told the world to reupload it as something to remember her by. It stopped being a "goodbye" song from Selen graduating and became a suicide note.

>>71461920
The argument that "we can speculate on anything if there's no information" just doesn't work when you're repeating something that never had a place in reality.

>>71461780
I doubt she was in the position to do any of that. I assume management communication in NijiEN is pretty much a one way street type of relationship.

>>71463591

To me, it's simple; does she have a position or favortism or w/e? Maybe not. Regardless, the fact that was she was willing to turn on a coworker who just tried to kill herself, in order to suck the company cock, is vulgar. I desperately wanted to believe she was innocent; the one who made me think otherwise was the woman herself, not a rando on the internet.

>>71452068
I choose to believe this.

Don't forget monday is round two, the beatings will continue.

>>71474469
>holofes ends
>the boat sinks right after
God bless.

>>71461920
No you are regurgitating shit from your own head.
Selen scheduled a holo niji collab with nerissa and has a special event coming on december 31 that were supposed to dwarf her tsb cup. She said on her stream that she will be in nijisanji for at least 2025.
Also rules of speculation. When someone crops out 99% of a discord screen shot and left behind only 1%. They dont want you to see the 99%.
E.g. they could have promised selen they would sort thing out before christmas. While it's bad to speculate from nothing, you can speculate from the censoring of something

>>71415265
I want Rosemi and Petra to be happy, and they look happy working in Nijisanji. 10/10 models with 10/10 talents behind. I don't give a crap about Tazumi or management, I just want my oshis to thrive.

Even if you were to delete Selen from reality the stocks will still go down the cliff because stock bros don't believe in the company anymore, the motives/reasons doesn't matter anymore also this is for Q3, in Q4 it will go down in flames because no amount of gaslighting will change it unless he wants to go jail for lying to investors.

>>71475075
And everybody dancing on top of kurocolor stocks.
Riku must be seething because he's giving so much free money to the dramatubers with high quality drama for like five weeks in row.