/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>71262282
Nijiwho?

>>71262282
Funny how devs for something Vshojo related is also has-been devs with their prime behind them…

>game by a bunch of has-beens
fitting for the retirement home of has-beens

>>71262282
>vshitshow
>game made by shitty devs
>somehow turning any good game into a moogle
bitch please

>>71262282
no one cares about Vshojo.

>Guinsoo
>Riot Games
>PUBG
quick cash and grab shit tier game

>>71262282
>Holocure absolutely mogged
Unless this vshojo game is free it won't even come close to Holocure
Not to mention Kay Yu's already releasing a second game for free anyway.

>>71262282
If it gets censored there wont be a fucking point playing it, oldfag Icefrog's and Neichus' inferior partner or not.
Riot should stick to sob story animations.

>>71262282
Don't judge a game until it's out the you've played it.
If it is a good game, that's good for everyone, and you don't need to turn it into a pissing contest with HoloCure.
They could both be good games that people enjoy.

>MOBA/battle royale devs
>actual project not announced
>studio website is blank
>studio laid off staff and shut down their only game 3 months ago

im thinking dead on arrival

>>71262649
one is being made by a bunch of grifters for profit, one was made out of passion for free

>>71262282
Vshojo fanbase is composed of clout chasers, unironically troons and retarded coomers. What the hell are they thinking? Didn't learned their lesson with the Hogwarts Legacy it seems.

>>71262282
>he guy who basically created DOTA
Aaand it's dead

>>71262282
An actual video game that people will say is a fan game is pretty on brand for vshojo

>>71262749
attention whoring is not passion

>>71262282
inb4 a vshojo mem gets shitcanned after the game comes out and there's a memoryhole patch

>>71262282
How obsolete will the character roster be when a quarter of the members don't renew their contracts?

>>71262282
>dev only has 1 game
>pic related
>and it got canceled
oh no no no no no no no

>>71262822
yes? we know vshojo is a passionless project

>>71262282
It's gonna be trash isn't it?

Fucking bf on stream simulator?

Don't mind me, just here for the seethe

>>71262282
What is he cooking

>no fans to make games for them so Ironmouse dug around the digital alleyways to find some dingy Riot contractor that has never really done any significant work for Riot to collab with

>>71262282
Character Selection
>Gay
>Bi
>Lesbi
>Tranny
>Woke
>Twittards
>4chan
>NPC Shop
>Doxsite Dwellers

if this game have any sort of microtransaction then it already lose to holocure
why? because holocure and dota1 was completely free

>>71262812
>>71262890

>>71262749
>releasing a product for money
GREEDY WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORES!

>>71263047
I'm pretty sure mouse has more video games based on her than any other vtuber.

>>71262282
>>71262812
>>71262890

>>71263128
How many of those "games" are just Ekikon Kenkyuukai-tier click-to-see-girl-cum nukiges?

>>71262890
How can you possibly list Teamfight tactics as something you're proud of creating when the entire premise was just stolen from autochess? The Riot clique of game devs is the griftiest of all the talentless grifters.

>>71263128
>Palestine
sugoi

>>71263080
>>71263203
You already posted that one Mohammed.

>>71262282
>>71262812
>>71262890
>>71263303

FANGS?
More like FAGS lmao

Mommeh is doing it first

>>71263353
ummmmmm where are the blackfolx?

>>71263412
In DLC

Interesting, seems like western agencies have stopped being retarded and started to look at vtubing at it's foundation.
Cover defines it very well. Vtubers are living IPs, Both aspects of being a IP and streamer should be used to its full potential to create a unique experience and community.
They should've started long ago instead of virtue signalling and getting high on their own farts.
Goodluck to them but the devs seems like commies so it will be a shit woke game, will be good to bring some quality control.

>>71262518
Is the second one also free? I thought the point of the holoindie label was so that you could monetize

>>71263353
>Holocure absolutely mogged

>>71263457
kay yu refused to monetize through it

>>71262282
VshoBASED

>>71263393
Another adult oriented vtuber group already did release a eroge featuring their talents.

>>71262812
>>71262890
>>71263353
Yikes another ESGslop game, crashed as it should.
Fucking hell Cover's so jacked its bodying both "competitors" without even having to do anything. They just self own!

>>71262282
>>71262367
>Nijisanji has no games
Think again
https://vtuber-lewds.itch.io/a-night-in-the-woods

>>71263353
MOBA without IceFrog is dogshit just saying

>>71263506
give it to me, I want to play it

Holoearth was so much better than this!

>>71262282
>"Guinsoo", the guy who basically created DOTA
And Icefrog made it actually GOOD. Guinsoofags are too retarded to accept the truth.

>>71262282
>Mogged
and other lies Vhoefags tell themselves.

>>71263457
The second one is free too, yes.
It's released under the holoindie label but Kay Yu made it very clear that he refuses to accept money for any fanthing he makes, and Cover respects it.
Still smart of Cover, since a high-profile game, even if free, brings eyes to Holoindie.

>>71262282
>Guinsoo
> the guy who basically created DOTA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA guinsoo's dota was a pile of imbalanced crap, all he did was ripoff other maps and steal their best heroes, worse, then he backstabbed the community several times, fuck that retard and fuck vshojo.

>>71262518
>hologames can't succeed if they're paid because holofans are poor monkeys from SEA
lol

These devs are perfect for vshojo

>>71264101
Didn't you JUST open a branch in California?

>>71264075
>Being proud about needing to pay to have someone make a fangame about your oshi

>>71264101
It still makes me laugh how every charity they've collected money for ended up being a CIA font org or just straight up child grooming advocates.

>>71263909
Say it with me dotafags:
FUCK PENDRAGON, GUINSOO AND RIOT.

>>71264184
Yes, Cover can afford it.

>>71262282
>guinsoo

>>71262282
Eul made dota you lol dickrider

>>71262282
Guinsoo didn't create dota, he only maintained the the absolute worst version of it, for a time

>>71264101
>vshojo(mtf)

>>71262649
>don't judge a game until you've played it
Spoken like a true blizzdrone

Idol showdown is also fun

>>71262282
These guys abandoned their most recent game, Fangs, after like 4 months of early access. You do not want these jackasses making your game.

>>71264184
Cover opened up a base in California but they explicitly stated that all content will be from Japan and distributed through the location.
I actually found it funny because there's no reason to state that unless they wanted to reassure people.

>>71262282
>guinsoo
jesus christ i thought that man was killed and buried by Riot like 10 years ago

>>71264592
I stopped caring about Idol Showdown the second they revealed the playable cast and Ina wasn't there.

>>71262282
>Holocure absolutely mogged
how does an announcement mog an already released game? are you retarded? this will most likely not be very good since it's a cash grab and not a passion project

>>71262282
>guinsoo
lmaooo good luck

>>71264617
>cover is terminally /here/

>>71264184
for logistic purpose yes

>>71264075
Preety sure holoparade sold like 30k times

>>71264655
Of all the dota devs/personalities riot tried to buy with money, they still arent able to get the 2 good ones.

>>71262282
Where the fuck is my Hololive arena fighter

>>71262890
>sidecut dreads
How diverse. Exactly like all the other "diverse" characters.

>>71264206
>needing to pay to have someone make a fangame
That's just a regular game at that point

>>71262282
what? vshoujo vtubers have personalities besides sleeping and whoring?

>>71264708
Because it's a bait thread made by a Vshojo anti, duh.

I always get instantly disgusted when some gayme advertises itself by listing the "credentials" of the developers. Into the trash it goes

>>71264834
Reminder that Nijisanji has clauses in its contract that prevents livers from agreeing with negative comments on 4chan

>>71263303
>everyone who criticises my vtuber company is a muslim
What is this mental illness?
You are a bigger bootlicker than the holodrones you seethe about.

Seething bait again kek.

>>71262282
This is what is going to happen, game is going to release > vshojo and the chuubas in that bubble will shill the game for a few days > after they stop the shilling the game is insta dead.

This game will be so garbage if it even comes out

>>71262282
The point of fangames is that they come out of nowhere and they are done purely out of love.
This instead is a business endeavour, the guys developing this are doing it for a paycheck.
I don't see how you can compare this to Holocure, the recent collab between Idolm@ster and Hololive is more comparable than this.

>>71265209
you see this behavior a lot with vshojo fans, that twitch SEA cell phone data plans or whatever but the truth of the matter is any indog/flip has better taste in vtubers than vshojo fans

>>71263909
>backstabbed the community several times
He'll fit right in with VShojo.

>>71265428
>Thee truth of the matter is any indog/flip has better taste in vtubers than vshojo fans
really

>>71265131
well it worked because i hate them even more now

>>71265742
Imagine falling for blatant propaganda. Couldn't be me.

>>71262282
Eul created dota. Guinsoo was responsible for dota allstars, which was the most popular version of dota after eul left.

Holomonkys seething

>>71265892
>seething
kek, what's there to seethe about, we're just laughing at the whole thing.

>seethe about Pikamee and Nina joining Vshojo
>seethe about Vshojo being able to host concerts and getting 3D quickly
>seethe about Vshojo members winning awards
>seethe about Vshojo members having better contracts than other corpos
>seethe about collabs and more cooperation with Hololive
>seethe about Vshojo being able to feature in games and getting this collab now

Another round of seethe for Vshojo's rise. Catalog retards that anti Vshojo cannot stop taking L's.
I expect many angry (you)'s from braindead vshojo antis now.

>>71262282
>it's Pacman reskin where you gobble dicks instead of yellow dots

Remember when some L4D devs left Valve and created their "L4D killer"? We're still laughing at it, lol.

>>71265960
>>seethe about collabs and more cooperation with Hololive
but I want more collabs between Ina and Pikamee (I do not remember her other name)

>>71266012
This?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdRLNUGmFC8

I just thought of something what happens if talents leave vshojo mid development

>>71265833
at least i'm self-aware

>>71266100
>Fall for blatant fake anti thread
>HEH, AT LEAST I'M SMART ENOUGH TO REALIZE I'M RETARDED

>>71266079
Nothing. They would still get added in that case, just like what happened in the Smite collab.

>>71265960
hold on let me see into the future what the replies will look like
>henya are an kek whores!!! western whores much haram
>kekson poachings vkekjoJP
>ironglungs kek cuck poach vshowhore fake sick grift kek conor
>froont, where are moneys kek?
>zentroona are an kek mans
>vshokek only reacts stream! wkwkwk

>>71266123
exactly, that means i'm immune to dunning-kruger unlike you midwits

>>71265960
(((concerts)))
You mean VR chat karaoke

>>71265892
>afraid of ban for racism

>>71262282
>Holocure absolutely mogged
>this game we haven't even seen concept art mogged Holocure! A game that even normies love!

>>71264075
>holochimps can't handle the truth

>>71266248
Why are VShojofags so racist?
They can't even banter and shitpost properly.
Why do they even come here?

>>71262415
The Riot devs are probably the ones who got fired earlier this year, too.
i.e. they probably had little creative input in the development of any Riot games.

Guinsoo who?
If it isn't IceFrog I don't know wtf you are talking about.

>>71266079
Scrapped or repurposed into an enemy

>>71266230
Better than anything hololive has ever done

>>71266426
>Home 3D
VS
>MY 100K $$$ CONCERT

>>71262282
>800 views
>three hours and no corroborating action from any VShojo account
What did they mean by this

>>71266498
Wait, the NPCs are 3D, but the actual VShojo members are cardboard? Am I seeing this right?

>>71266498
That top image is not home 3D

>>71262282
>"Guinsoo", the guy who basically created DOTA
Wrong, it was Eul
Leaguetards are like nijisisters: can't keep themselves from rewriting history. Lying is second nature to all of them.

>>71264617
>open Western branch
>Western talent still produce through Japanese branch
Why is there a Western branch

>>71265960
I don't anti VShoujo but their business model reminds me of Epic Games, in a bad way. They don't really create anything new, relying on preexisting fanbases and advantageous contracts to build their pool of talents, while never discovering anyone new or doing anything interesting company-wise, letting the talents make their own opportunities (and mistakes).
As far as I'm concerned, I consider anyone part of VShoujo a de-facto indie.

>>71266611
True, the motion capture was made in Ame's studio and Kanauru made the stage and camerawork.
Doubt it cost 100K$

>>71266696
yeah but they let their talents keep the IP and not treat them like slaves or post retarded shit like terminations.

>>71266696
>their business model reminds me of Epic Games
Their business model is the typical structure of a Western talent agency. They work in a supportive role only.
Hololive is structured less like an agency and more like a production company.

>>71266672
Logistics

>>71262282
>hidden leaf games
are they ninjas or canadians?

>>71266696
Epic games is better than steam though. Never understood why /v/ hated them so much

>>71266932
bing chilling

>>71266932
Nice bait bro.

>>71266932
Better in what way? It has way less features, both for devs and users.

>>71266696
But Vshojo is a private company tho right? Am i wrong?

>>71266866
Chinese

>>71266932
Pissing and shitting that they would occasionally have to click on a different store client

>>71266696
Vshojo is literally collabing with this dev studio to make something new.

>>71266957
>Muh china
Grow up
Fact of the matter is that my Epic Games library has hundreds of games now and I didn't need to pay a cent for them

>>71266932
Ok wtf, are you retarded?

>>71266995
so Canadian, got it

>>71266594
It was a jukebox musical. There was a villainous cloud who went around turning people 2D.

>>71267042
>EGS is better because they gave me free games
You must be over 18 to post here

>>71266696
>They don't really create anything new
this is maybe not the most appropriate thread to make this claim in

Where my fellow (future) Matara mains at?

>>71266696
You just basically described a talent agency, which is the most common thing in Content Creation in both video making and streaming. How the fuck is VShojo different from the rest and how the fuck does that compare to company with an online store, which btw, they (as in the company) have an actual engine and several IPs they WORKED ON, which wouldn’t be comparable in the first place

>NEW GAME
I bet this game need atleast 50GB storage like the standard Modern Games

>>71267172
I see, cool.

>>71267240
I think it will be a mobile game.

>>71267191
Free games still play the same as paid games
And the epic store isn't flooded with low quality shovelware

>>71267240
I think it will be a browser game

>>71262282
I imagine the gameplay will be the player goes to sleep for hours while the game plays itself

>Vshojo is a private brand of Twitch.
It is easy to imagine this dev's new game being embedded on Twitch toppage.

>>71267446
>idle game
kino

>>71263593
>https://vtuber-lewds.itch.io
im not clicking that wtf

>>71267446

>>71266816
Yeah, now that you say it I think that's it.
But then bragging about how much better they are than other agencies feels kind of empty, when the role they cover is so different. They are less an employer and more like a co op.

Man, I just want a game like a metal slug gameplay.

>>71262649
True but the thing is that it's already starting on a wrong trail. I mean you don't anounce a game if you don't have a concept to give already. What genre, style and stuff like that.
This sound like one of those many "project" that will take years to give something mhe at best, if anything at all.

>>71267552
>They are less an employer and more like a co op.
isnt this a good thing?

>>71262282
cool, release when?

>>71267795
2025 4Q

>>71267038
>>71267198
You are right, but I was talking about things that involve their talent in a more central way, like concerts or things like that. Which do happen, but they seem to be more to the initative of the single talent rather than something decided and organized by the central management. They help if asked, but that's it.

>>71263606
Except DotA under Icefraud was also dogshit.

>>71267839
>concerts
>something new
pls

>>71263593
The sex scene in this game is unironically good, and the developer is now working on a game about Fauna

>>71267552
If you refer to saying “Talent Freedom” it’s not really bragging above the others, it’s quite literally showing a difference in the market, which at the time they launched, it was sort of unheard of and had to make a huge distinction from the rest. It’s Marketing 101, same with only using that in Japan, as it’s simple English would be easier to understand even across the the two main counties. What the talents do, is up to them. They weren’t remaking the wheel, they just literally popped into the market where companies for Vtubers were more like Nijisanji and Hololive in the audience’s collective mind, which was really engraved that people would ask them in the first days.

>>71263544
/v/ermin go back

why does VS insist on the game aproach
they tried a gamejam and nothing really amazing came out of it. now they gonna waste what? 100k+ on a small game under some washed out devs?
seems like a lot of time and money wasted for such little return. Games are build out of passion you cant just order people to do them.

JUst focus on more game collaborations like smite. Having your own game isnt a necesity.

>>71267446
Pokemon sleep already does that

>>71267839
>Hololive invented concerts

>>71268148
Why do you think Vshojo will GIVE them money?
If anything it would be free or they would take money for letting them use their IP's.

>PUBG lost so hard to Fortnite which wasn't even a battle royale on release
>Guinsoo only had a job because of Dota and even then he got fired for fucking up LoL

Vhoejofags...you better pray to whichever pagan god or Allah since it looks grim for you.

>>71268148
But this is a colaboration tho. They are not actually making the game, just giving the right to use vtuber IPs.

>>71268148
oh they Vshojo had a gamejam?
can you link it? that sounds cool

>>71267504
Holy shit, ecelebschizo, what the fuck are you doing outside of /morig/

>>71268148
Because why not? They get a game for their audience, they get some free publicity and they leave a mark (if it’s not a live server). The Game Jam was purely Ironmouse and some games were actually fun to play around, and she gave money to her audience that actually worked on a good amount. There’s also the Porn Game Melody promotes and finances.

Hell if a company wants to work with them in a game, who the fuck in VShojo would say “hell no nigga”

>>71268237
>Fortnite
but wtf isnt lost to Fortnite lol.

>>71267552
They only get compared because companies like Hololive and Nijisanji continue to fashion themselves as talent agencies, when they really don't operate like one

>>71268282
Ironmouse did
https://itch.io/jam/mouse-jam-2023
IMO the winner deserved it, and I wish they would have done more of it . It’s called Cutie Conquest

>>71268455
that's not Vshojo

>>71262282
how embarrassing

>>71267552
Bragging about not producing slaves. Grim.

ah, no wonder melody is quitting porn

>>71268237
It won't really hurt Vshojo if it's not a big success because this is not like a HoloEarth situation where Vshojo invested a ton of money into it and need to see a return. They'll just voice actand give their IP and play the game on stream, not much more.

Vparasites and guinsoo what a great fit

>>71262282
There are very few games made by former devs. Mark Kerns is essentially poison to the industry and he is still riding the highs of working on WoW. At best this might just be forgotten as shovelware.

>>71268654
is she tho? She is making bank with that content.

>>71268797
Very few good games, I meant to say.

>>71262282
Dota was created by eul, meian and ragn0r, guinsoo only maintained it for one year before fucking off to Riot and passing the game to Icefrog.

>>71268797
Only time will tell. Just keep expectation low.

>>71268838
she is shifting focus to warhammer

>>71267884
>>71268226
Sorry, "new" wasn't really the right term. "Original content" maybe? Something company wide, organized by the central management, rather than the single talent. But then, it makes sense that they don't do something like that, since like this anon >>71266816 said they are more like a Western talent agency rather than a production company.
>>71268421
This is true though.

>>71268874
isnt that one year the most successful year for DoTA tho.

>>71268838
was
she hasn't had a patreon stream in months and is constantly canceling, delaying or straight up not doing streams on chaturbate since she is prioritizing moving to japan

Hololive is bad.

>>71269182
Niji is worse

>>71269025
Not really.

>>71268237
>PUBG lost
Huh? PUBG is still fucking huge.

>>71268976
>Something company wide, organized by the central management, rather than the single talent.
I mean that definition would still fit for this collab...

>>71269208
And?

>>71269032
She was on Chaturbate just a few days ago
>she is prioritizing moving to Japan
Well that doesn't really sound like she's quitting porn now does it

>>71269182
Proof?

>>71269231
It seems to me like they are outsourcing the creative process, with the talents only involved by letting them use their likeness (and maybe voice acting?)

>>71269397
This thread

>>71262282
Could've hired marvelous the old senran kagura team ...

>>71269411
Pretty sure that’s not proof, but alright.

>>71269407
Maybe, but I don't see how that's a problem with your definition.

>>71262282
>former Riot games
oh shit, lock up the breast milk.

>Funding for personal projects
>Multiple outfits with complete freedom of design by the talents
>Financial and legal help
>Concerts and live events
>Software and hardware support
>Medical plans
>Complete collab freedom
>Talents own the IP
>Brought vtubing to the mainstream
>Has the biggest vtuber in the world (Ironmouse)
Is Vshojo the best tech/entertainment company ever created? They certainly are the best vtuber company but at this point they're even better ethically than even major companies outside vtubing. Zero drama, zero controversies, everyone loves them. It's honestly amazing to witness something like this. Their way of work should be studied by business experts and used as an example.

>>71268687
How do you know this?

>>71269453
I think he meant holofags

>>71269407
vshojo isn't a video game developer...

>>71269523
Because I can read and it doesn't say Vshojo is a sponsor.

>>71269502
> everyone loves them
not on /vt/ kek

>>71269534
Let's not beat around the bush here. Hololive is just as bad as their fans.

>>71269592
Who cares about /vt/, in fact I would argue being hated by /vt/ is a pro

>>71269627
eh. I actually like some of their talents. Watch fauna and biboo sometimes but the chat is so painful. It's like henya's chat but 10 times worse.

>>71269694
>le /vt/ bad
Weird then for >>71269502 to shill his corpo here huh

>>71269475
Not necessarily a problem, I just don't think it counts.
It's a business collab, not a company wide event, is my point.

>>71269733
Still like 98% of them are awful so it's fair to say hololive itself is bad.

>>71269813
It's a co-op game so they will likely stream together. Not sure what you think counts, can you name some things besides concerts? (vshojo had one of those too btw)

>>71266012
Was the the one where zombies were yelling nigger?

>>71269800
I'm not shilling anything. Just stating facts. I'm a shiller as much as someone is a shiller for water if they say water is wet.

>>71269502
For the talent, it's absolutely the best. For the fan, not so much.

>>71269813
I mean what can be original content for a entertainment company? Song? Anime? Movie? Game?

>>71269407
Anon vshojo has like 15 employees. No shit they're not gonna be developing it.

>>71269954
Care to answer why nyanners vei and silvervale left vshoujo the dramaless paradise?

>>71269977
It's not even good for the talent, or at least not every talent. You have to be somewhat popular to get it, which defeats the purpose of even doing those stupid ads in the first place. Did they expect corpo vtubers to leave their company and join them?

>>71270133
I would argue bc they left, it became a dramaless paradise.

>>71270137
Geega and Haruka aren't really popular tho. But you are right, they dont have that much budget to take a risk.

>>71263606
So true bestie i cant believe anyone ever played old dota before 7.0 saved dota forever

>>71270137
Yes.

>>71269977
Why? Fans have events, merch at affordable prices, collabs, new talents at a reasonable pace. I don't see what would be bad for the.

>>71270137
Yes, they probably did. That’s the point of propaganda, after all. Ended up being a circlejerk still, but that isn’t surprising at all given the known state of affairs there.

>>71270137
Vshoujo might just have more orbiters than the rocks on saturn's rings

>>71270337
That's the thing tho, a bit of gatekeeping is good, that's how you keep retards like Nux out.

>>71263593
>selen happiness
>elira happiness
Which one gets fucked in this game

>>71263237
>Ekikon Kenkyuuka
I wish I never looked

>>71270133
Because they wanted to try new things and Vshojo let them without going into an autistic rant and make a list of sins or remove any mention of them like they never existed.

>>71270133
Because they wanted to make fun of Hololive and Nijisanji but Vshojo management wouldn't let them.

>>71270567
What happened to talent freedom?

>>71262282
>"Guinsoo", the guy who basically created DOTA
ask dota oldheads what they think about guinsoo or why the item named after him was the only one renamed in dota 2
good luck with the game tho hope it turns out good

>>71270611
Talent freedom ends where it hurts the entire corpo and not just yourself.
Should be obvious.

>>71270723
Dota community fucking hate that dude lol.

>>71266230
Holy YandereDev, this looks like ass

>>71263047
what's funny is that an mousey fan actually did make a huge passion project fangame for her and afaik she never played it

>>71270738
So there's no talent freedom then. All that posturing just to back down on it.
The thing is, they became too big now, and they can't just say whatever they want. Same thing happened with hololive, this is a natural progression of a company becoming big.

>>71270415
Selen does (metaphorically and literally)

>>71270884
>there's no freedom of speech if I can't call a black person a nigger while representing a company
K.

>>71271007
Well, NTA, but yeah.

>>71270884
The diffrent is they are free to leave. Leaving vshojo is like a divorce but leaving holo or niji is like "we will kill you, then celebrate and keep your corpse at our basement".

>>71271007
I'm talking about Ironmouse herself saying that they can't talk about the Nijisanji shit.

>>71262282
How does something like this work even with each talent owning their own IP, do collabs have to go through deals with every single talent, or can Vshojo negotiate for all the talents at once

>>71270723
I still remember the old dota allstars website
Guinsoo and pendragon did the community dirty and that's saying it mildly

>>71271094
didnt kuro and mata talk about it?. Not directly ofc bc the contracts betweem them and niji.

>>71271120
collective negotiation and contract templates?

>>71271120
The managements are actually working and not bullying the talent.

>Holokeks seething at a little bit of competition
I dont know if this is funny or sad.

>>71271199
>i was specifically talking about Ironmouse
>brings up Kuro and Matara who obviously can't talk about it because they are under NDA
Keep up with the conversation, anon.

>>71271332
>they
dude, really.

>>71271353
?

>>71271094
>>71271398

You said they. Ofc i thought you also included other talents

>>71271261
>>71271205
I more mean that someone like Ironmouse is worth more in the game than other talents, do they have to negotiate a higher price with her to have her in the game? Or does Vshojo just suggest a flat agreement that all the talents have to agree to. I'm genuinely curious about it works for a company like that if they want to allow a company access to all their talents' likenesses

>>71270723
>ask dota oldheads
Lmao. The only bad thing guinsoo did to dota was MAKING dota allstars, everyone who complains about him DELETING allstars can jump off a bridge. At the very least guinsoo at least always held his version of dota as a spinoff fork and never pretended to replace eul.

>>71271503
I see, my bad.
Then that still proves my point that Ironmouse can't talk about it, and it's not just about saying the n-word.

>>71267446
so holocure?

>Former Riot devs
name 3 good games that were advertised as having former riot devs

>>71271295
It's not even a competition. They just want to seethe because Vshojo is getting something.

>>71271673
name 1 good game

>>71271637
Nah holocure is fire. Im a vshojofag but that game is pretty damn good.

>>71271738
Dino Crisis

Imagine, Vshojo being the first vtuber agency who lays off game devs...

>>71271047
I guess your definition of freedom of speech doesn't exist then.

>>71271094
Yeah? She can't because she would absolutely shit on Nijisanji and that could possibly hurt the image of Vshojo and the other talents.

>>71271626
I dont think she meant that she litterally cant talk about it, more like she doesn't want to talk about it bc it'd drag unnecessary drama. Unless doki want to join vshojo, there is no reason to be niji enemy and the chinks, they are pathetic yes but there are many of them.

>>71271839
Considering how long HoloEarth is in development I'm pretty sure Cover already did lay off some devs.

who cares? Cover's open world action adventure survival crafting game with base building mechanics is going to blow whatever "been there, done that" garbage they can think of out of the water

>>71271915
Yes, exactly what I said, they are too big now, they can't just talk about anything they want.

>>71267543
rumao, now that's on brand

>>71271839
It's just a collab anon.

>>71271608
Dont even start revising history you lol faggot

>>71272085
This was always the case and it doesn't spoil the fact that they have far more freedoms than any other org.

I know it's barely related, but was it Guinsoo or Ice frog that got mad when Russians cracked dota's protection? I forgot.

>>71262518
We usually compare the success of games by how much they sell, or rather how much money they make. That's definitely how the numbermonkeys would prefer it. If one game is free and other game isn't, that kind of narrows things down. One will make money, the other will not make money.

>>71262282
Yay, can't wait for another basedboy sidescroller with chiptune music and pixel art! Woo! Better chug some onions while I'm at it

>>71272289
>far more freedoms than any other org.
Like who? Hololive and nijisanji, for sure. But Phase are more free in that aspect.

>>71262438
Underrated post

>>71272661
Seriously moot needs to undo the S O Y censor at this point, it's gotten old

>>71272673
To my knowledge Phase does own the talent's IP so that's already a big restriction on their freedom.

>>71272747
Anybody using that buzzword deserves to be banned tbdesu.

>hidden leaf
name ONE good game these guys have made

>>71272864
Sad that a bean is a buzzword to you lol

>>71268421
>companies like Hololive and Nijisanji continue to fashion themselves as talent agencies
Since when?

>>71272985
>intentionally being retarded
No wonder you're upset buzzwords are filtered

>>71272985
It not le buzzword wen my side use it

>>71270450
Why? He just does basic shit.

>>71272842
What's the point of owning your IP if you are restricted about what you can talk about.

>>71273124
S O Y B O Y
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>>71273378
Such a silly question. Go and ask ChatGPT.

>>71262282
actually who corp. never heard of them, tried to check their website and its fucking nothing. this will surely go great
>>71262438
tpbp

>reported and banned for "racism" for calling holo SEA monkeys holochimps
Grow some balls loser subhumans

>>71273607
yall get so much mileage out of this one pic

>>71262282
>mogged
>just an announcement
vhoefags must be braindead

>>71275077
>Triggered by the word “mogged”
Holofags ain’t better.

>>71275171
>vhoefag triggered
Seethe more. If you want to gloat, at least have a demo or something You are a scam right now, a lot of words but selling nothing.

>>71266498
How is that shit on the bottom 100k??? Yandere-dev tier models and scene.

>>71275465
>triggered
>kek

>>71275714
>vhoefag triggered again
kek, come back when you have something to show instead of seething, bye.

>>71275880
>seething
>kek

>>71271295
>>71271676
>literally made nothing yet
>vhoefag: y-y-yea!... holo seethe!
you vhoekeks are so funny.

>>71276112
>REEEEE

>>71266672
>Why is there a Western branch
I know you vshojo fags are slow, but if you could read literally two sentences they explicitly tell you why they're opening the branch.

>vshitshow gets a game
Oh really...
>ex riot and pubg devs whose first game failed
Vshitshow is becoming more soulless by the day, a feat I thought was impossible.

>>71262282
Not sure about holocure but for sure it will beat holoearth.

>>71265960
Vshojo is a group not a corpo, so they don't really matter

>>71276747
hope it won’t become as soulless as a slave camp like hololive.

>>71262282
>Guinsoo
Didn't think I'd have to hear the name of that cunt again

>>71262282
>Holocure absolutely mogged

Nope, and you leave Kay out of this you heard? that man is a Saint who only gives, the community practically begged him to accept money, Cover even created a fucking loophole so he can monetize his shit and yet he refused.