/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>71241796
I can't remember the date but there was a that one time their stock dropped to 3040, which I think is the lowest they had ever since the whole current Niji shitstorm started. Was that the lowest or did they went even lower?

>>71241796
I have NFI about stocks but looking at all the threads on this shit it seems Niji stocks are going up and down by like 200 yen in the range of a day, almost every single day.
Can you just buy at 3100, sell at 3300, rinse repeat pretty much every day? Or are there limitations on that shit?

>>71241796
ABANDON SHIP

>>71241796
YIKES
Good thing I shorted it, and I advise you to do the same. It is going to go further down.

>it's low
BUY BUY BUY

>>71242763
It was 2000 jpy a year ago.

>>71241796
How many hours until shit hits the fan?

>>71244219
I sure hope that's when you bought it then.

>>71243388
People have to want to buy

>>71243388
They can but only the investors are doing money this way, and it’s problematic because it takes one bad day to sink the company, other than you can’t do this forever.
The company is suppose to have a major increase, like even 4000, then a massive sale and then return to normal. But they are failing to do so and that puts pressure on the investors meeting as anyone not selling is incurring into possible debt and they will want to pay up their investment.
That shareholder’s meeting is gonna be a shark’s pool.

Nothing Personnel Faggots

>>71241796
BUY BUY BUY

>>71244219
I feel sorry for those who bought it at 6350 (2022)

I’m genuinely curious at this point: how many more tricks can this company pull out of their asses to yank the stock price up? They did the stock buyback, then the google thing, then the margin trading voodoo. It seems, if nothing else, Riku knows every dirty trick in the book for pumping stocks, and I refuse to believe he’s hit empty already.

>>71241796

>>71244615
NijiES?

>>71241796
I sure hope you weebs got your lifeboats ready

>>71244615
Maybe he can sell the investors on a true NijiHub plan where they expand the organs’ holes to a broader audience instead of the global expansion he’d aimed for earlier.

>>71244615
Ideally, they can float for another 1½ year like they are doing now. But this will be the slow bleed, and eventually it will hit a point of no return some time later this year. If they want to bounce back, they have to seriously repair their image and PR. And they need to re-invest in to the company. Another buyback any time soon, will make nobody trust the price value.
Looking at Riku's past business ventures, it makes the most sense he will cannibalize until he is unable, and then cash out. He did this 4 times before starting Ichikara. And as psychologists say, past behavior is the best indicator of future behavior.

>>71241796
Tazumi-kun, an explanation please

>>71241796
UOOOOOOOOOOHHH I'M GONNA BUY THE DIP

>>71245028

>>71244615
Earlier thread seemed to think that if tomorrow price dips below what it was at start of margin trading (around 3080 I belive) it'll mean autosell of all margin traded stocks, and if that sends them below 3000 it'll be panic selling territory.
But I don't know a fuck about this, so this could be some made-up bullshit.

>>71245006
>Anykara
>re-investing in the company
Well, I guess that plan’s out of reach.

>>71241796
Nice numbers, Nijisanji.

kek

>>71241796
Can someone post a translated version?

Your Liver belong to Riku's bottom line. Start the eclipse.

>>71241796
SELL!
SELL!
SELL!

>>71245667
Niji stock go down

>>71245667

>>71245006
Problem is exactly that. This floating is making Riku no money at all, Nijisanji has now gone into the “damage control” territory and you need to invest and/or downsize until your business is healthy again.
But Riku has never shown to care enough to do any of that, and it’s far more lucrative for him to declare his leave on ghe 15th and cash out. The best he can aim in a year is being second banana to Yagoo, the only angle of attack he has is that his homo projects are more successful and have more traction in SEA.
NijiEN as a whole is a liability, you spend millions into it and then have to go trough a PR repair that frankly it may never work as intended. On a business point downsizing and restructuring it into something aimed at SEA is far more lucrative.
I kinda wish he takes the worse choice of trying to go on with the sinking yacht. It will be a story to laugh with ar every yab that happens. I’m 100% sure someone wants out and he can’t held them forever, so we will see what happens on the 15th. Even nothing would be amusing in this situation.

>>71246074
I just realized that the grey bar got so big, last time I checked it was 80% buy. Even investors at this point want to wait and see. But most of them expects dividends and plans for soften Q4.

Which I have no idea what they talking about, I’ve not seen anything saying these shares pay dividends. If they drop even more tomorrow, it’s full liability.
If I was a liver I would prepare my way out strategy, just to be safe.

>>71246631
Problem being the JP market is saturated and they've nuked external relations so hard they're an irradiated wasteland. ID actively hates them, KR and India merely dislike them, the CN collab company looks like it's having issues as well.
Anycolor just doesn't have anywhere to expand to, they've run out of marks to exploit

Can someone post Cover's stock?

>>71246955
You can check it yourself, but HoloFes is coming up.

>>71246955
Anon, Anycolor's stock is NOT meant to look like this. Especially after they did opened up margin trading

>>71246910
>doesn't have anywhere to expand to
how funny would it be if niji of all things got a dedicated EU branch before holo

>>71247032
>>71247002
I'm waiting.

>>71247075
I highly doubt that’d be a good course of action for Niji, so it’ll probably happen.

Buy the dip guys. It'll go up after 5th fes

>>71247077
Looks fine to me.
Especially with all the reinvestment and the new overseas division? Shit's looking rosey.

>>71247137
it'd be funny if the fes boosting up covers stock value and consequently also anikara (somehow), ended up being the one that will save them from this current grimm situation

>>71245110
If said stocks hit under 3k it's a serious fucking problem. As it will be classified as being delisted and will lead to a massive panic sell from your investors.

>>71247331
Cover title is not jacked up on steroids like buybacks and loan shares, and the company value on the market is relatively low.
The title is lower because Yagoo is keeping it low, admittedly wasting a big source of money, but at the counterbalance of not having to dedicate himself 24/7 to profit.

>>71247331
For further context as to why cover stocks don't really matter, Yagoo has repeatedly told his shareholders to BTFO after they've asked him to implement Anycolor style cost cutting measures to increase profits, You don't typically make shareholders happy by telling them to fuck off, But it is paying off in the long run obviously

>>71247427
The only reason he made cover public in the first place was to help fund the new 3D studio, I'm sure if he could take it private again without any issue he absolutely world, But why should he bother when he can do things the way he has always done them and they will STILL grow year on year?

>>71245110
That's not how it works. There is a certain amount of volatility allowed, and if it dips down too much, not just below the start, but below a maintenance requirement based on each broker, then brokers will do a margin call where investors must meet it by depositing additional funds or securities into the account. If they fail to do so, then the broker can sell the shares.
That said, 3000 is a magic number in the sense of a self-fulfilling prophecy - everyone expects everyone else to sell below 3000 so everyone will sell.

>>71247502
There was a more pertinent reason. The angel investors wanted to cash out, so he only had the choice of taking it public so they could sell their shares, or he could sell the company.

>>71247331
Cope.
It's worse, just say it. You don't have to come up with all sorts of excuses like
>t-they're reinvesting!
>they're expanding!
We're not talking about their bank accounts here, we're talking about their stock value.
Those things, if true, would BOOST the stock value because investors would see the company growing and bet on its future. Except they aren't. Why is that? Why don't investors have faith in Cover, if they're doing so well?

>>71247462
>cover stocks don't really matter
If Cover stocks don't matter, then Anycolor stocks don't matter either. Except you won't admit that, because everything is one massive cope. When Cover stocks are losing value it's all "part of the plan" yet when Anycolor stocks are declining it's "all over" for them and when they're increasing "it doesn't count!".
Everything in this world conveniently lines up to make Cover and Hololive the victors, and Anycolor and Nijisanji the losers. Weird!
>paying off in the long run
It's paying off by... being worse than their main competitor that is supposedly crashing and burning in real time?

>>71247897
its true stock wont matter to cover lol.
no matter how many time they hit lowest stock price, cover wont bother at all about it
>didnt release IR document
>didnt buyback
>didnt loan margin

now compare them to anycolor

>>71247897
>It's worse, just say it
There are less shares on the market, They have no been pumping it up or incentivizing their stocks
>We're not talking about their bank accounts here
That's true, We're talking about the LONG TERM HEALTH OF THE BUSINESS, Something that is largely divorced from short term stock movements
>Those things, if true, would BOOST the stock value because investors would see the company growing and bet on its future. Except they aren't. Why is that? Why don't investors have faith in Cover, if they're doing so well?
Because shareholders are brainless retards who only care about things on a quarter by quarter basis, and have insanely stupid expectations of infinite exponential growth cause they don't understand how the businesses they invest in actually work
>If Cover stocks don't matter, then Anycolor stocks don't matter either.
Cover stocks don't matter cause yagoo doesn't give a fuck about sucking off investors, Riku has built his ENTIRE BUSINESS on inflating the stock and cashing you, He very much cares about it falling so much
>It's paying off by... being worse than their main competitor that is supposedly crashing and burning in real time?
Again you Inbred retard, Cover has less equity in the stock market than AC, therefore they have a smaller cap of the public market, So their base numbers don't matter as much cause AC is ACTIVELY INFLATING their stock value

>>71247398
So does that mean Cover stock is delisted, given that it's shown to be under 3k in the screenshot shown earlier?
Or does the threshold for delisting vary based on something?

>>71247897
...What on earth are you talking about? Cover didn't just waste all of their money trying to specifically boost their stock and then failing to do even that. They're actually reinvesting in the company and it's going great now that they have so many more resources to work with and avenues to expand. Anycolor just got kicked out of the entire western market. Cover just opened a new logistics and distribution center.

>>71247897
Yagoo basically told investors to gtfo because invertors tell him to pay less money to talents.

Gee i wonder why investors didnt want bet on cover future despite they are doing well? you tell me sisters

>>71248354
>guide your business properly, grow everywhere and you become the face of the entire industry
>but because you actually care about what you are doing instead of listening to bloodsucking kikes that will run away at the first chance, your stocks have less valeue than those of a self destructing rival company
Cover vs Anycolor is the best example of how stock trading is a tumor in economy and that the world would be a better place if it was erased

>>71243388
Yes, until the stock doesn't go up anymore and you're fucked ( If you can predict when that will happen you have a Nobel prize lined up) (also gains are taxed but that depends on the country)

>>71241796

>>71247897
Cover has not performed a huge buyback and loan margin shenanigans like Anycolor. This means their financial health isn't leveraged by their stock price. Cover is betting on long, emphasis on long, sustained growth. They are clearly not interested in raising their cap as fast as possible, just see every shareholder presentation they do. If Cover stock tanks for a bit or the stocks stagnates into a bear market for a while they don't care because they only went public for private angel investors to cash out and that already happened. Just see their trading volume, they are not a speculative stock at all.

Anycolor however is different. Their entire financial strategy is about gathering a big market cap and outmuscle their competition with money (and for Riku to buy more yachts with performance bonuses). If their stock tanks for a single quarter they are cooked, especially if the operation revenue can't cover their losses with stock shenanigans. Let alone the fact that their stock/cap tanking or stagnating will destroy their entire market strategy.

>>71248773
Replace the image with someone lighting a cigar using a $100 bill. That's a more apt comparison since the share price dropping means he's losing money.

>>71248697
It is kind of wild Although, I'm still kinda annoyed at Cover for going back to Billibilli after investors started pushing them to do that, but can't win them all I guess
>>71248910
But sister, number x>y X must be better!!

>>71248773
I don't get retards like you, Do you just not give a fuck about the actual vtubers?, Why is your oshi a billionaire nepo baby running an abusive hellhole?

>>71248965
At least BiliBili had to kowtow for it and at best they only get dripfed minor content.

It's probably just gonna keep going sideways until the earnings report.
The speculation is that the earnings report will be pretty good. But next quarter's will be bad

>>71248967
They're clinging to their final cope of "bigger number better", simple as.

>>71248965
Did they actually go back? I thought the bilibili channel was fan made and had no official ties.

>>71249230
>"""no official ties"""
suuuure don't be naive

>>71249060
If the speculation was that the report was GOOD, there would be absolutely no reason for the stocks to dip like they have, From november/december/january they had a MASSIVE tanking of their stock price, They had selen disappear, they had pomu graduate, their numbers were already stagnating, There is no way they meet ANY kind of expectations with all that hanging over them, And even if the number's aren't reported on till june, They ABSOLUTELY will hammer riku with questions about why the EN branch is basically dead

>>71241796
Aint it like this for a while now?

>>71247897
The only cope I read is here. You are presenting us no actual financial point but your screaming seething voice.
I pointed out that Cover can easily apply the same strategy Anycolor did and inflate the stocks. But that's a different game that not every CEO wants to play.

Anycolor did buybacks and loan shares. If you spent a second thinking instead of coping, you would know this means that if they want to reinflate the price to avoid a complete crash, they can't. And that if the title goes too negative, the shares are now liquidity and creditors can ask the company to pay them, as literal debts that Anycolor will be forced to pay or liquidate.
Educate yourself before adressing a topic, thank you.

>>71249368
I think that's really the thing to watch for, I'm not sure the investor Oji-sans are aware how radioactive NijiENs reputation is right now, BUT OH BOY IF THEY ARE

>>71249368
Q3 covers up to January. The worse thing that happened is in January, but before then things were better than you remember and Nijifes took place pretty much undisturbed.
It is weird the price is going down, but I don't expect a problematic Q3 either. It's Q4 that is gonna be their final boss and they are NOT ready.

>>71249518
They are aware but not on the angle that you believe. They know EN is a sink cost, a net loss, but they don't see anything wrong in the JP market aside the stagnation for having too many livers.
The problem is trust. These practices invited a new kind of investors in the market, the wolves who are there expecting to gain liquidity, to get a piece of the pie and then leave.
Which is fine if the price grows and the shares can take the hit, but them dropping down and up this way? It's too unstable. One bad news is all it takes to kill the title.

>>71249471
Anycolor will have to liquidate vtuber models to repay those debts.

>>71249316
Dude, Cover is still banned officially from China, and their brand is flat out radioactive there. Why on earth would they want anything to do with them? Why enter a market that actively despises you and wants you destroyed?

>>71248967
Their oshi is the company

>>71249723
>He doesn't know

>>71249762
taiwan =/= china
we've already established this

>>71249723
Last time i check from my friend in chongqing... Nobody care about that anymore.
Cover also get perm from Chinese game now like party animal and that cultivation game.
Bilibili also paid for airing right of 4th fes in taiwan (but the fan reject that)

>>71248773
Kek are all nijitroons literally 13 years old?

>>71244642
we are nijiOK
ok?

>>71250764
Niji stocks didn't do as well as expected

>>71241796
Explain stockchads, what happens if it hits 3,000?

>>71251485
My bet are either:
-more favor to push price up.
-crash below IPO prices due to panic selling.

Either way, i'm happy when shareholders got burn

>>71241796
Something must be going on cause the mods suddenly reawakened on the Niji Reddit to clean out. Threads deleted and people banned even for bogus reasons.
Tazumi cosplayer thread and user were banned for instigating harassment.

Are they afraid of something?

>>71247376
Yagoo does have a savior complex...

>>71247897
This is your brain on /#/. Go take a vacation on /biz/ and then come back.

>>71247897
This is why there's no pressure on Cover regardless of their current share price. All the big investors - the ones that actually can cause the most problems and have been there since the start, if they pulled out today have a healthy ROI almost doubling their money
Meanwhile Anycolor day one investors are absolutely fucked, Sony, Tokio Marine, Yuzuru Honda all are staring at a small loss already.
For investors big numbers don't mean shit, it's ROI that matters. Those poor bastards that bought in Oct 2022 are staring at massive losses. Day one investors are also taking an L unless something drastic happens.
So yes Nijisanji are currently losers and Cover is winning simply because they have better growth. If you bought shares in Niji day 1, every dollar you spent would be now worth 97cents. If you bought Cover shares day 1, every dollar you spent is now worth $1.77. It's that fucking simple

>>71241796
COMPLETE
NEGLIGIBLE
DEVALUATION

>>71244325
There's no way to watch the meeting right? I know some company (ie Disney) stream their quarterly meetings.

>stock price actually went up from its lowest price after the Selen yab
Kek

>>71243388
Congratulations you're now a qualified price trend analyst.

>>71252413
>genius doesn't know how stocks work

>>71244615
Has Anycolor tried selling NFTs and E-Coin? I could see them trying to sell those based on their talents. Could be a last ditch effort to get some money before shtf.

>>71251768
Tomorrow's Riku's meeting with the shareholders so there's that.

>>71252340
In the west a lot of companies allow shareholders to listen in to these meetings/calls, but because there's no way to know if someone owns shares or not they're basically completely open to the public so long as you care enough to listen in.

>>71244615
They can alway buy out their competitor

>>71253997
Phase Connect?

>>71254174
Is Phase Connect publicly available?

>>71247462
I want to be as based as Jobs or Yagoo one day if I ever run a public company
Openly telling VCnigs and MBA shareholders that they will never get it

>>71252832
Tomorrow should be nothing more than a release on revenues and profits acksually, which might pomp the price temporarily.
The funny shit should come in July when (idk shit, I'm going off what I know based on following Apple closely) shareholders will have the opportunity to grill Riku live on call over whatever.

>>71251768
Presumably Riku or whoever is now in charge of EN discovered that one of their social media channels had turned against them for more than a month. That makes it even more difficult to explain to investors how they still have potential for growth in the west, due to the sheer hostility in comparison to their rivals.

>>71255088
They have quarterly investors calls, Not just once a year, The period covered for 3rd quarter includes selen's silent suspension, pomu's graduation, MASSIVE stagnation, A large dip in stocks mid december, #WhereIsSelen, AND the stock buybacks being finalized and processed, Riku will present the numbers, and shareholders WILL ask questions, and if you think they won't ask about why the company is currently on fire, Idk what to tell ya

They could pick ANYCOLOR and they chose RED- AAGgghhhhhh

>>71255558
The one time being a black company is a good thing and they fuck it up, baka my head

>>71250321
So next Lunar New Years congratulatory doxx post will be all the Holomem?

>>71255370
Q3 also includes NijiFes, which will negate all of the above.
Q4 is what they really need to worry about, because they're already halfway through Q4 with nothing to show for it.

>>71255600
They will only get a name of a dude that own Holo Bilibili fansite.

>>71241796
Retard.

>>71255859
It’s not that it will negate all of the above, it’ll just negate most of the damages. Even then it might not save EN if the branch is still on a year on year decline.
But yeah, you are right on Q4 being something they should worry about. Even with 3D debuts on the horizon, there is no way that investors aren’t going to drag Riku through the coals.

>>71256060
NIJISEETHE

>>71256060
BUY HIGH
SELL LOW

>>71241796

>>71255370
Oh, I see.
I have to say, yesterday makes it even worse... the fire has subsided a little, but their direct competitor is talking far more exciting prospects for expansion, working with fans and carefully structuring to go global like Nintendo or Sanrio. I don't even think all of their goals are realistic, but they are so much more better positioned to pull off that kind of growth.
>>71257599
The two companies track closely, similar thing happens in shitcoinland where positive or negative news for BTC pomps or domps most other coins.

>>71257599
looks like a good time to buy cover, they're going to peak again next holofest right?

>>71241796
>56% want to buy
I can't imagine being this retarded. Even if all the drama magically disappeared, why wouldn't you buy an actually good stock instead of something that is actually down since IPO?

>>71244534
Pretty sure that was pre-split.

>>71259542
Those numbers are manipulated anon. Never fucking ever rely on them.

>>71244615
At this point they might as well resort to human sacrifices and satanic rituals.

>>71244615
>>71244649

>>71260626
Oh, so just throw Elira under the bus.
Termination notice where they find Elira guilty of everything.
Throw her to the wolves and try to save as much face as possible so just a teensy bit is on the company. Enough to promise things will be better while holding her accountable for like 90% of everything.

>>71262005
>Option A) Elira is guilty and starts dumping documents and internal communication
>Option B) Elira is not guilty and now you look like an absolute asshole
There's a flaw in that plan

>>71259542
>price dips
>hoeh?! people want to buy??!!
crazy right?

>>71252637

>>71259542
Why did Niji have such a massive pump and dump in their first year?

>>71252637
Why don't they pay their talents in NFT and bitcoin to promote that they're joining the crypto business?

>>71241796
llol

>>71246758
>Which I have no idea what they talking about, I’ve not seen anything saying these shares pay dividends.
It wouldn't be the first time a company's used Yahoo! Finance to manipulate stock prices in their favor.

The co-founder of Whole Foods did it and got away with it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mackey_(businessman)#Yahoo!_Finance_postings

>>71262668
I don't remember the details but I think Niji only allowed specific companies to buy stock for the first 6 months but forbade them from selling anything, then when the 6 months passed they all sold at the same time.

>>71246910
>KR and India merely dislike them,
India doesn't even know they exist and KR absolutely despises them harder than any other fanbase. Akina is the only person in Nijisanji with a sizable korean fanbase.

I want to repeat.

SAEGUSA AKINA. From Nijisanji JP. Is the only person in Nijisanji, post-KR merge, to have a sizable korean fanbase.

Can NijiES save them? It's a big market, so I don't see a reason why they shouldn't try.

Nijiafrica

>>71270256
>NijiES
ES anything will be more drama filled than any other branch, including the fucking Koreans. However, they COULD use this as a smokescreen for EN, but I doubt they’d do it cleanly. The time to have done so properly would’ve been right after Luxiem lost power due to Vox’s yabs, not now when eyes are upon them from all sides.

>>71270441
I was thinking about NijiArab, since it'd have some impressive whales, but that'd get instabaned.

>>71270256
If only Toriyama was alive...

>>71241796
WHERE ARE THE SCREENSHOTS OF YAHOO JP OJISANS?!
Those were funny kek

>>71270256
There's plenty of viewers but not all spanish fans have the money due to their economies/living conditions. Plus, Nijisanji's current environment would be the perfect breeding grounds for something like WACTOR 2.0 to happen.

>>71241796
How does the price remain stable? I thought they will crash to the grounds yesterday after the niji meeting or whatever
Did Riku pull more buyback or something?

>>71246631
If he cash out, can he even return?
I mean, his incompetence in how he fucked over the company was shown to the entire world.
The trust he built up is just evaporated like that, it just shows that he was just a rich kid that was a fraud all this time.

If it was someone who was just rich it is okay but Riku is the face of the company, right? It is not even like operating solely on greed like that activision ceo but genuine incompetence

>>71273468
I'm pretty sure the meeting is tomorrow.

>>71273468
>remain stable
>lost 180 yen

>>71273724
Oh, that makes more sense

>>71273794
Isn't that just average daily fluctuations? finance brainlet here

>>71273468
The meeting is tomorrow. Financial results will be out at 3pm JST on the 14th, so 6am GMT, 2am EST.

>>71274020

>>71259542
>>71259916
Never trust "want to buy" rating or price targets. This came to me in an email from Simply Wallstreet, I guess because I signed up to look at detailed information for Anycolor. Actually deranged take. The company literally forecasting lower eps than last year, but somehow two analysts think it should be priced at 8150 yen lmao.
This came to me on March 7 though, no idea what the current stance there is

>>71275644
>March 7th
That's way after the megayabs. Either the analysts know something we don't, or they're regarded.

>>71273468
>How does the price remain stable?
Through things like stock buybacks and margin trading.
....oh, wait.

>>71262109
Option A is probably the one scenario where the book of grudges method would actually be a good option.

>>71248965
Ha, no, let me know when Holomem start to stream on Bilibili again, then you will be right.

>>71276222
Problem with Option A is that in that case Elira has to be competent enough to pull at least half of the shit of the Gurrat, meaning she has enough blackmail she'll counter with The Great Library of Grudges and take down half the company with her. In that case it'd be safer to quietly kick her upstairs in a high paying management position.

>>71255558
THE FINAL DAY IS HERE AAAAAAHHHHHHHH. I'm expecting the price will go up, so buy the dip

>>71245110
Anon it's the stock market.
It's all made-up bullshit until it happens.

>>71242763
the lowest price since the selen termination was 3025.

>>71277089
Still 2 1/2 hours until the market opens though.

>>71241796
A lot of people bought dead cats.

>>71241796
Should have shorted more, fuck

Holy shit
>>71277772

Nothing is going to happen tomorrow.

>>71277829
Dead. What was it?

>>71278206
a stock photo that was not anykara showing a very low number. lots of moon runes.

>>71241796
Post JP stockbros gaslighting.

>>71277089
>9.28B
the estimation is too high. niji is screwed up

>>71255859
I agree with you. I think we see EN stagnant or showing a small decline in Q3. Q4 is really when the shit will hit the fan, because I think we'll find EN engagement massively crashed with Pomu/Selen leaving, the controversies surrounding their exits, and the wave of de-subbing they all got pounded with.

Now, this might change if investors are paying close attention to the reputational damage in EN, realize how bad it is, and starting grilling Riku in the upcoming presentation. You will probably see a big selloff if he doesn't have very good answers.

>>71246910
>CN collab company looks like it's having issues as well.
CN isn't even an option anymore so discarded too.

>>71273709
Dude most likely will go into stocks or trading and live comfortably for the rest of his life.
Honestly, I feel like that's enough punishment, he gets to live nice but he can NEVER head a business again, so his punishment is having a "cap", he can't grow as a businessman anymore, he has to live with what has he has and if he fucks up and loses it, he's done, no growth opportunities, permanent business anxiety that has the added bonus of his investments going down due to the population crisis.
A fitting end for a greedy businessman.
And someday, he will realize that he had everything, and lost it, for being a retard not much better than a /biz/nessman save for corpo knowledge and experience that he didn't use right.
"I sentence you to life long mediocrity"

>>71277834
>"Jinx it"

is Cover in VXUS ?

>>71278206
Someone baiting with pic related.

>>71278673
Do you think that'll feel like enough of a punishment for him? He'll still live his life comfortably, the only difference is that he wont get anymore fluff pieces about how he was an "industry leader", instead it'll just mostly be
>What happened to the Ex-Nijisanji creator

Fuck this thread is full of clones of my uncle
Made a bit of money on tesla and now think they know everything about the stock market

>>71279182
Sometimes enough punishment is simply stopping someone from doing more than damage than before.
Effectively, the punishment is just avoiding other's suffering. Peaceful end, no more bullshit happens in that front.
End of story.

>>71255558
I must say ANYCOLOR has infinite meme potential.

>>71262668
Salami's debut

>>71279298
>always brags how stonk his stonks are
>tax period rolls around
>brags about how much rebate he got because of his losses on the stock market
I know more than one person who does this.

>>71279298
It doesn't even take a basic level of business understanding to know that playing games with loaned chips is bad, especially when the price of a chip if variable.

>>71278673
>but he can NEVER head a business again
You wrote an entire paragraph just to have it be wasted in the second sentence. CEO's of companies that've folded millions if not billions of dollars into the red tend to fall up more than they fall down.

>>71279994
NTA but aren't those case because a) they were not famous in public enough like the "youngest billionaire in the world" and b) they had genuine "fuck you" money?

he can probably start small again no problem but it will be a long time before he can get it back to the anycolor lightning success level

>>71278673
His alternative ventures will be fine, but none are likely to trust him with chuubas again. In reality, he shouldn’t have been bought at his word anyways; his history in business isn’t exactly built on lengthy trust, just impulsive gains.

>>71280470
>and b) they had genuine "fuck you" money?
How much do you think Tazumi is holding onto right now, running a billion dollar company? He certainly has enough money to start again in whatever venture.

>>71278673
Riku is at the 3rd-4th time he does this. Ship jumpers are usually good at coming out scott clean because they continue sponsoring the next big kewl thing and so all investors jump in like morons in heat.
Just like he did with Nijisanji.

>>71280930
Yeah, but his reputation is shot; he is now "that guy" who only have money and no actual insight.
How is he going to get investor trust with that? He can live comfortably, but it will be a while before he can actually be considered as a "trustworthy" businessman.
Doesn't he have several businesses under his belt that he ran down too? I can't remember, I know he said something about his business strategy being just jumping on the hottest item that season and selling it off as soon as he got his money's worth

I don't know how venture culture works

>>71281419
just because he ran down several businesses into the ground doesn't mean no-one made any money out of them. a business can go under and take thousands of jobs with it but as long the right people end up with a nice paycheck then it's all good, encouraged even because why wait decades for a moderate payout when you can crash the bus and make out like a bandit

Markets open in just over an hour.
Yahoo has a 20 minute delay, are there any other live tickers?

>>71278673
I miss her

>>71279994
Bobby's world...

>>71281419
As long as you have money and connections you can do whatever you want. He has both
He might have to front up a bit more of his own money to get financial backers
to commit and reassure them, but he is no way cooked. The armada of yachts needs to grow.

>>71280930
That depends. Anycolor definitely has a good warchest at its disposal, but its up for debate how much money Riku will walk away with if he leaves the company. Plus he had another failed venture prior to running Anycolor didn't he? It's very possible that Anycolor was just a fluke, and he just lucked out by grabbing someone like Tsukino Mito at the right time and place.

>>71241796
It will rally any moment now, right? RIGHT!?

>>71255859
I still don't buy that Nijifes will be the wondercure for q3. It has massive potential to be a sore point, because it's just as likely that Nijifes 2023 won't have the financial impact of the previous years. Even though they occurred in different quarters, all it takes to cause massive headaches for Anycolor is people asking why Nijifes didn't perform as well as previous years.

>>71275644
>these two analysts we hired to make shit seem good

>>71262109
>>71262005
...Except they literally just did this with Selen?
Look how well that worked for them. The only people who seriously believe it are the luxiem sisters.

>>71270049
>SAEGUSA AKINA. From Nijisanji JP. Is the only person in Nijisanji, post-KR merge, to have a sizable korean fanbase.
Who is she? What's the problem? Was she that korean bully I heard about who killed the branch?

>>71284902
I don't think it's possible to fuck that up. Like how do you throw someone as tarred as Elira under the bus and come out worse for it?

>>71285019
I was biting my fist and cringing at that black screen stream, talk about throwing yourself on the pile of shit to hide the smell

>>71262005
Would be one of the biggest gambles in Vtuber history. Pretty much betting everything on people accepting the following
>People accept Elira was the sole bully and clique leader/shadow manager and firing her is enough to forgive niji
>Her not breaking NDA immediately and call out staff or others in a samson option style fuck you as you've ruined her visa and career
>Everyone who is connected to Elira not walking out in solidarity or throwing shade on the announcement

>>71281419
>his reputation is ruined
And this is supposed to mean something to the market?

>>71285019
Easy. You just have to tell people that they've done it before. Zaion's almost completely worked and she took all the blame from the internet for a nearly a year.

>>71285706
Japanese culture differences might be the thing that screws him over domestically, Saving face is a MASSIVE part of the culture and he has acted very "dishonorably", He isn't gonna be able to just bobby kotick his way to greener pastures like a lot of people have been saying (well mostly cause bobby is like 200x richer than riku will ever be), He can TRY and get away with it but none of his prior pump and dumps had the massive global stink this thing did, Normies will take one look at whatever he does and go "oh it's that vtuber CEO asshole from the cr1tikal video), So doing anything outside of japan would require it to be something VERY MUCH divorced from the public eye, He isn't gonna be poor or lose his fortune, But he isn't gonna be able to "try again" so easily

>>71285544
The main issue is that for Anycolor and Riku, the options are to try and keep the remaining people in the EN branch under control from leaking and cleaning house vs. placating investors about why their money is evaporating and won't continue to do so without changing the company internally. A lot is hinging on what they announce for this earnings call.

>>71285544
>>Everyone who is connected to Elira not walking out in solidarity or throwing shade on the announcement
I really don't think that there would be many that walking out with Elira in solidarity. You have to remember her colleagues are people like Vox; people who have repeatedly demonstrated multiple times that they really don't mean half of what they say and have either backtracked on changing their content or their commitments, like being an event organizer for his tournament with Selen. There'd probably be some naive enough to do so like Finana or Millie but leaving NijiEN probably wouldn't harm them that much either.
I think most of the remaining EN talents would still be happy enough being at Nijisanji, they'd still keep their passive membership revenue on a monthly basis, one person leaving potentially means less competition, and some of the Nijis like Enna really do not have much of a future outside of the company.

>>71285329
Fuck, I was watching both of them on different windows. God, that was so disgusting.
I still can't believe the sisters for ever defending that shit. Doki seriously looked like she was about to dox herself or completely break down crying. Thank god she had actual people around to talk her down, and she was strong enough to stop.
She seriously wanted to keep playing Neopets through half of it, though, my god the balls on that woman.

>>71285706
I think it does mean in the sense that you wouldn't want to trust someone who has obvious red flags, but then again the market is always "this time, the value will go up!" I guess

>>71285544
It would never work, Elira is simultaneously too detrimental due to her reputation AND too valuable due to her connections with alot of their talents.

>>71270049
>gooks hates pacman much more than we do
what happened? the enna/elira of nijiKR got fired ages ago pre-merger
i only watched seffyna for a while from nijiKR and she seems fine

>>71286053
Despite being one of the most hated CEOs to consumers, he’s insanely successful at what his job is, to make shareholders money. Riku hasn’t given investors jack shit right now because he doesn’t pay out dividends and he fumbled a simple termination into losing 10-20% of his stock valuation.
>>71286534
>your country isn’t good enough for us, we’re shutting the branch down
>meanwhile Hololive blows up in Korea due to a meme and the Korean vtubing scene is growing exponentially
Also they tried to sue Korean 5ch

>>71286728
Oh no. I really hope hololive doesn't expand into korea directly.
Korean fans are absolutely HORRIBLE. both the guys and the girls. Haven't you seen the hoyoblimp? That whole country is toxic as fuck. You think sisters are bad? Imagine two more sets of them...

>>71285735
The problem (for them) with the play they used on Zaion is that it was one of those "it will only ever work once" plays. They tried doing it a second time with Selen, and it backfired spectacularly. Scarle is most likely to be next; but regardless of who management is actually planning to Zaion next, whether it's Scarle or Elira or anyone else, it will not work.

It will not even work against Luca or Uki, despite the fact that the two of them are confirmed to have done things bad enough to justify immediate termination. The only way Niji EN can fire anyone without shitting on their own reputation moreso than they already have is to do it exactly how Cover would do it - a one page white paper with only the bare minimum of details (just saying "Thank you for supporting us, [talent] is terminated immediately for breaching NDA/violating our anti-racism policy/other very serious infraction, please continue to support the remaining members of their wave" and nothing else) and then a 5 or 6 minute UNSCRIPTED stream in which their wavemate(s) say something like "They're gone because of the infraction, I kinda liked working with them, I'm sorry they had to leave this way, please continue to support us".

And most important of all, a policy of NOT unpersoning the fired liver. Allow the remaining livers to say positive things about the fired livers, just as Hololive talents are allowed to say positive things about Rushia and Mel.

>>71287192
Yagoo seems more interested in ES and EU than Korea as far as expansion goes. Koreans are more than happy with watching cute foreigners for now it looks like.

>>71287192
As a gook, I will say that koreans pride themselves on toxicity. "they" consider it as toughening people up and if you can't take it its your fault for being a pussy ass bitch

>>71287312
Naruhodo...6 pages of slander with all her friends shit talking her on stream.

>>71287312
>And most important of all, a policy of NOT unpersoning the fired liver. Allow the remaining livers to say positive things about the fired livers, just as Hololive talents are allowed to say positive things about Rushia and Mel.

This will be the hardest part to do, because Niji's fanbase has been trained to view ex-Livers as traitors. After Pomu graduated, supposedly on good terms, Sisters were constantly posting Pomu hate threads and lashing out at her. Selen's termination distracted them, but some Pomu hate threads recently started up again.

That's a learned behavior they will need some time to "untrain."

>>71287510
That sounds bad. No wonder why the suicide rate there is higher than Japan's.

>>71287312
Its really baffling how NijiEN had the perfect opportunity to downplay the situation by copying what Cover did with Mel down to a T. Instead they created possibly one of the biggest kerfuffles ever with the Selen situation, and the way they terminated Zaion was already bad enough.

>>71287510
Fuck, how many holos have pinching hands in their models? They're going to get hatebotted until they actually kill themselves if they don't fix that before expanding into KR. The men there have so little self esteem that they keep nuking entertainment companies because they THINK they might be radfem because of a fucking hand gesture, which has never once been proven true but surely THIS time they'll find one.

>>71287745
Nijisanji is truly a family. A crime family. You only leave feet first.

>>71287510
Eh, Unreal Tournament and Halo/CoD were essentially the same way back in the day. Only thing I hate is he said/she said additional drama that transcends some shitty Shaco player spamming ‘sb’ at me when he failed his ganks (like seven years ago).

>>71287312
No way they can even do that right now. They are sitting on one brick from going supercritical — any termination, warranted or not, will be push that over the edge. Even if it’s Luca, Uki, Elira or Vox, no amount of dressing-down will halt the prying eyes from peeling away at their rind with scrutiny. They’d need a fortress of professionalism to ignore it completely, and they won’t get that in their present condition.

>>71288134
I’d think the graduation queue right now is on hold until after the investor meeting/report tomorrow at least.

>3100
Do you think we'll see it fall below 3000 today? I don't believe they'll allow it.

>>71288134
>Unreal Tournament and Halo/CoD were essentially the same way back in the day
Not really, UT/CS/Halo/CoD, etc. were just shit talking - it ended when the game ended. Koreans go full cancel culture with real life consequences.

>>71287893
>which has never once been proven true but surely THIS time they'll find one.
I will clarify that this is a real thing in korea, gender war is of different scale in korea. The women there are crazy, they throw bloody period pads at males to prove their point. The men there are deranged as well, they will cause a witch hunt for the mere mention of feminism, such as how limbus company community raided the main office because they dug through 10 year old deleted twitter archives for evidence of misandry by one of the artists.
This is also in conjunction to the fact that the PRESIDENT was literally groomed by a feminist shamanism cult.

>>71288134
>Unreal Tournament and Halo/CoD were essentially the same way back in the day.
Different scale, nobody cares about toxic behavior in game but the issue is when toxicity is encouraged in real life. Truly like a social jungle there, the weak will fall behind

>>71288302
Depends entirely on how they live up to investor expectations.
I think they’ll meet them in the JP side because they shifted Nijifes from Q2 to Q3 this year which should mean increase profits compared to last year. EN side looks grim as fuck but you never know, last quarter their excuse was that EN fans were simply migrating to JP to explain to downward trend.

>>71288302
No, there are a lot of investors who believe 3k is undervaluing the company so they start buying it once it hits some level of sub 3100. It'll be bouncing for awhile before investors decide that buying it at 3k isn't worth it.

>>71287745
>After Pomu graduated, supposedly on good terms, Sisters were constantly posting Pomu hate threads and lashing out at her.
Is it because she left at all? Or is it because of the clip where she was heartbroken over losing her once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, and the very strong implication that that was what made her decide to leave Niji?
Because I can easily see the latter as being the sisters' reason for hating her all of a sudden.

Not a great start ngl

>>71288267
I’m doubting they’ll allow for even a single graduation until they get a wave out. Coupling that with other hurdles means hiatuses are more likely, like they are in the main branch.

Didn't they just do something about this a few days ago? I think it went to 3400 correct? I was under the impression that they did it so that their books will look good before the investor meeting.

The fact that it went down like this that fast, does that mean that they are losing trust or it's just really that the market is so bad right now?

>>71288592
yeah, I know it's real and that some of the women are actually insane enough to do it, but all of the cases I've seen that actually got people fired or attacked were false flags. Like the Closers bullshit which effectively killed the momentum of my favorite kmmo because they ended up having to attack a fucking artist's friend who was completely unrelated just to find someone to blame because they thought somebody who worked on the game retweeted a pro-feminine post in fucking 2016. Now the game's effectively on its last legs, struggling to find any kind of predatory monetization they can get out of their few remaining players because of how badly it got fucked over by those limpdicks.
I know it's petty. I'm still mad.

>>71288721
I seem to remember it started even before the stream was unprivated, though I'm sure it didn't help.

I think a lot of this started with Zaion, when Kyo participated peripherally in her doxxing. That was basically a signal from the Livers to the fans that this behavior was okay and even desirable. It's been like this ever since.

>>71288876
I think it crashed because of Cover announcing an official US branch.
Overseas expansion is something Riku has been promising investors.

>>71288742
It can handle 2 more dibs like that, then they are starting to be in real trouble. No way they get another institutional raise, like the last time it dipped below.

nijisisters we must buy the dip

>>71288962
>yeah, I know it's real and that some of the women are actually insane enough to do it, but all of the cases I've seen that actually got people fired or attacked were false flags.

Oh for sure, the korean gender war is like witch hunts in the traditional sense where they will try to burn a woman for "being too ugly" or something. The community there makes /vt/ and nijisister doxxsite look sane

>>71289162
looks like they ARE buying the dip, but they will need to buy a lot more to stay the tide

>>71289423
down to 3135 three minutes later

>>71288971
Kyo being such a big part of the indie scene again is a big reason why I'm staying away from all of it these days. He had some meme collab video with Bao a bit ago, so even though I have nothing against her, I'm going to avoid her like the plague on the off chance I might catch a whiff of that snake again.

>>71288876
What happened is that Anycolor classified their stock as "Loan Margin Trading Issue" IIRC. That was about a week ago and was meant to increase liquidity, but it didn't seem to help much. I think it's a mix of the Nikkei 225/Nikkei Stock Average going down which puts JP investors in bear mode, plus investors being apprehensive about investing in Anycolor until their Quarterly Finance reports go live. In which case we'll probably see hard doomps on Monday or tons of people buying the dip.
Or it'll just continuously crab as usual. Going up and down, not really doing anything.

>>71289581
3,120.00 now

>>71241796
ohnono, Riku's yacht!

>>71288742
>>71289423
>>71289581
>>71289639
DAE habitually comments on daytrader fluctuations?

>>71289944
Give them a break. It's not like anybody in Nijisanji is streaming right now so we gotta get our entertainment somewhere.

Do the buyers know something we don't or are they just retarded?

>>71289610
So the push from loan margin is neligible.

>>71290140
The stock has the capacity to make wild erratic jumps. For an extreme example it was at 2.8k yen shortly before Luxiem and then jumped to 6k, but you have examples of it falling as low as 2.1k and then jumping to 3.4k, then falling back to whatever before (buyback) 3.8k. If you're willing to roll the dice or can afforod to gamble with some money, it's not a bad risk on the chance that it spikes again. I suspect this why Anycolor has mostly 0.1% investors instead of 90% being owned by two or three big fishes - people are willing to gamble with some cash, but if it comes to paying big money they'd rather do it in a more stable company / industry.

>>71243388
You can-- that's basically what day trading is-- but you pay taxes on every transaction and they have to be paid even if you lose money overall.
>>71253320
Really? I get a private link and a couple of passcodes for Exxon meetings.

>>71290583
It's a good play for an entertainment industry stock or as part of a broader ETF of Japanese stocks. It's absolute trash as a single stock vs the rest of the market if you buy into the marketing that Anycolor and even Cover does in presenting themselves as tech companies. You would've made more riding the NVDA or any other AI stocks rather than investing in Vtubing since either company went public.

>>71290583
>That Luxeim jump
I now understand now why they will never fire Luca.

>>71247897
Shut the fuck up Ducky

>>71249723
Cover isn't banned in China. They're on the shit list, which is worse. Anytime a foreign company wants to do business in China they have to do so under Chinese management. HoloCN got so out of hand because it was effectively a separate legal entity under Chinese ownership-- and yeah it's more complicated than that I'm obviously simplifying. The point is that at the best of times you basically have to take it on faith that the chink in charge of your Chinese branch is acting in your best interests and hope for the best. Being on the shit list though means that if you're stupid enough to (re)-invest in China you'll be robbed blind on general principles and then kicked out of the country. They'll offer you incentives to move as much money, technology, and knowledge into Chinese hands as possible then take it all away and laugh about it. Anyone who goes to China-- much less goes BACK to China-- deserves whatever they get.

When does Riku have his call today? Do we have a time?

>>71288302
i don't think it will go below 3k ever for march and april, this month has en 3D debuts and the upcoming jp wave is advertised in one of the biggest bookstore in shibuya
after that it depends on how retarded en goes especially if their singapoor concert flops

>>71291594
The only thing I've seen on AnyColor's website is that the financial report will be released at 3pm - so 6am GMT / 2am EST.

>>71291777
>singapoor concert
I wonder if this is the big reasons they're keeping Elira in the company. After getting booted out of OffKai they probably don't want to risk pissing off any business partners.

>>71291575
God, I hate that country.
Thanks for the clarification, anon.

>>71291777
>singapoor
Was this deliberate? Because if so, Singapore is one of the wealthiest countries on Earth.

>>71243388
On the US market, I get taxed higher for < 1 year holdings than I do for > 1 year holdings. So as long as you account for the higher capital gains taxes Uncle Sam slaps you with for every profit sale, you can play the day trade game.

>>71290583
Shortly before Luxiem what? What happened to them in late 2022?

>>71290081
>Company famous for shitting out vtubers and flooding the market
>No one currently streaming
>Their main rival takes a slow and steady approach
>Ends up with more talents and active streams

>>71270256
Since the contract leaked nobody is going to apply to nijisanji in a long, long time even IF and emphasis on IF, they change how the branches are run and get managers in there.

ES is gonna be a whole can of worms that they cant afford to deal with atm.

>>71289610
Still what this shows is whatever move they did a few days ago was actually negligible right?

>>71292417
>rich
>complain about a 200 dollars concert like a fucking poo poo

>>71293917
That's still valid in terms of complaints desu. $200 for a 3D concert would be one thing, but $200 for a glorified 2D Karaoke? Too much.

>>71262005
things are pretty fucked up for anycolor, the whole Elira clique and how they treated Selen and Zaion is enough to get enraged. But because the contract has been leaked now, it shows just how awful and almost illegal working for nijisanji would be. That's another reason to be pissed at Riku.

Anycolor is in a lose-lose position, the only way to make amends would be extreme radical changes which wont happen because nijisanji is just Riku's quick cashgrab scheme.

>>71293917
I rather use that 200 dollars to wipe my ass than pay for shit content

>>71293917
Nigger you'd have to pay me to watch a nijinigger concert, and I bought all four days of holofes

>>71291777
are they even sold out the ticket yet?

>>71294550
They haven't sold out tickets yet but there's still 6 weeks left before the event. People might not get their tickets until it's very close.

Best move for Anycolor seems to be to pay Elira to take a dive. Toss $1 million her way to buy her silence in return for putting out a 1-page termination notice vaguely mentioning unprofessional behavior and lying to management. The average person sees "justice" has been done. Conspiracy theorists feel vindicated. Anycolor gets to look like they settled the issue cleanly and professionally. Elira has no reason to bring down the company now that she has her payday. The rest of the branch can move on and pretend to be better. It's win-win all around. Until the next yab proves that it was all a lie.

>>71286534
>what happened?
They bought their way into the market, which is a sin apparently, and also ended up buying a black company while doing so which was an added bonus. But would you believe me if I said Ara Chae, the girl who is an actual 100% confirmed Elira Pendora who has paid fines for her clique bullying over the years, is not the most evil person in that branch?

Moarin almost degloved someone. If you don't know what that term means, and DO NOT LOOK IT UP, it's nearly ripping someones face off. She served actual jail time and has driven multiple people to suicide to the point where she's almost a household name in Korea.

>>71295009
This all hinges on Anycolor paying an organ, which is unrealistic

>>71294792
not even the homo side?
if the homo side didnt sold out yet then how grim the girls side?

>>71295009
If this was going to be their plan, they shouldn't have waited over a month to do so.

>>71295174
Stop fucking talking about Face/Off - wait what the fuck?

>>71295365
Oh I thought you were talking about the offline venue tickets. Meet and Greet tickets are not available for purchase until 3/23.

Around 3 more hours to go. Report hype

>>71295783
im talking about offline venue tickets yes.
iirc the concert for the girls and homo is separated right?

>>71295009
They can't even pay their artists. You expect them to pay their organ? They'll accidentally send it out to Eriwa Pemdorfa and wonder why she's not returning their calls.

>>71295174
>spoiler
How? What the fuck were they doing?

>>71296395
They are. All livers are separated for meet and greets.

>>71295174
What the fuck, is that what was going on in KR? How the fuck wasn't this talked about more? Didn't most of them speak english?

>>71295174
Moarin sounds like a devil's name desu.
Apparently it is!

>>71296693
I don't remember specifically how, I think it was ripping off a large portion of her cheek and leaving the victim with permanent facial scarring in high school. She's got a page on Namu but being a Korean Wikipedia means they're not really going to go in-depth about the bullying, and I'm not tanking a ban to link it.
>>71297469
>How the fuck wasn't this talked about more?
Real life information and it happening in early 2020. It was talked about but it was a footnote of the footnote that was KR at the time.

>>71300512
>2020
Ah. Right. 2020. Fuck that year, man.

Stock is at 3155 right now, after an hour and a half of oscillation.
The market is closed for lunch right now, and trading will resume in an hour.

>>71301249
What's that magic number again? 3040 or something like that? Riku better hope it doesn't hit that before the meeting...

>>71241796
I am sure it is fine

We need a backup thread for when this one hits the bump limit.

>>71302021
just make a new one...?

>>71302021
Bro I'm just going to make a new thread with today's stock close

>>71302170
SEAjannies anon, SEAjannies.

>>71300512
>look up her page
>they've got an article dedicated to her controversies
>actual unironic list of crimes, unlike Zaion/Selen
>massive walls of text
>Sexual harassment of minors and gaslighting controversies
>Allegations of school violence and justification of bullying
>Radical feminism and man-hating speech controversies
>Allegations of innocence and false testimony
>Allegations of victim intimidation
Jesas Christo NijiKR makes NijiEN / the clique, and even fucking Miguel Gato look like fucking saints.
This bitch is KRAZY.

>>71302520
Wait you guys are saying that NijiKR was a legit criminal clique?

>>71302915
I don't know if she was ever arrested, but
>Currently, Chae Ara has been sued by 7 people
Make of that what you will.

I had no idea Koreans were so cutthroat, Jesus Christ. Every day must be Squid Game over there.

TITA MILLIE I KNOW YOU'RE HERE PLEASE MARRY ME AND BULLY ME INSTEAD OF OTHERS!!!

>>71302261
You created a new one with link to this threads then.

>>71303937
You should read more Korean HS bullying-themed webtoons. There's A LOT and their bullies are hardcore.

>>71303937
>I had no idea Koreans were so cutthroat, Jesus Christ. Every day must be Squid Game over there.
You have no idea just how bad it is over there. They make Japan's flaws look like paradise in comparison.

>>71304510
Any recommendations? Preferably in English

>>71304602
Why are they like this?

>>71304718
>Why are they like this?
They never reformed Confucianism like the rest of Asia did.

>>71303937
I recommend checking this shit out if you ever get a few hours to spare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Im4YAMWK74
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woB0eecbf6A
It's wordy as fuck and you can skip most of the history shit, but the actual drama from korea is fucking WILD. The only place I've seen have anywhere near that amount of collectivism autism is maybe china, and even then korea has them beat.

>>71306684
The part about the Korean Air flight 801 was crazy.

>>71304718
>Why are they like this?
East Asia is in East Asia.
inb4 "but but but third world pagpag eating seadogs from indonesia and singapore are worse, fellow westoids"

trading has resumed
down to 3125 as of twenty minutes ago (Yahoo has a delay)

>>71306923
Yeah, the idea that anyone would rather die and kill everyone onboard than go against your superiors is fucking insanity to a westerner.

>>71304718
I don't know if it's just a trend, but nearly every good revenge manwha I've seen was korean. They LOVE stories about a little guy being beaten down, then powering up and beating the shit out of everybody for catharsis, usually in brutal ways. Most of their regular, non-sexual manwhas makes Redo of Healer look like the happy_sex tag in terms of brutality.

>>71255594
>baka my head
You posted cringe

>>71304718
South Korea was a military dictatorship until like the late 90's. Imagine the kind of nostalgia that people in the US have for, like, the N64. Koreans have that nostalgia for mass incarceration and homes made out of asbestos.
There is other fucked shit like how huge swaths of the country that aren't part of the few major cities barely even have electricity but that's the main one.

1 1/2 hours until the report is release. Let the fun and games begin

>>71308778
And then a further four hours until this month's white paper (potentially)

>>71307569
Cool, any recommendations for the best ones? Not too familiar with manhwas

>>71308062
what gets turned into baka? I've been around a while but I've never figured out what makes that filter.

>>71308905
>>71308778
wasn't it tomorrow or something? I thought it was in like 16 hours

>>71309377
Rooftop Sword Master

>>71293917
For context,
For $200 last year we were getting
>AFA exhibition hall entry
>AFA stage entry for ANY stage event, including the Hololive talkshows
>VIP entry for the above 2
>Hololive 3D concert
>Holo signed posters, meet&greet

>>71309772
Thanks, I'll check it out.
>>71306684
Fuck, this is a wild ride already. Everything I read about that side of the world makes me glad I'm just a boring westoid.
>>71309444
No, it's the 14th. Get your popcorn ready.

>>71309444
>spoonfeeding
sm.h becomes baka, tb.h becomes desu, fa.m become senpai, there're more I think but I don't encounter them often.
Also, lurk 2 years before posting

>>71308778
Given how people are saying it'll only cover until end of January it'll probably be much less entertaining than we'd wish
>>71308905
Eh, I'm expecting them to refrain from that sort of stuff until start of next month at soonest. Except maybe if rrats come true and Petra announces graduation after 3D reveal.

>>71311414
that's hilarious. I'll keep them in mind. The only one I've ever used is tbdesu but tbdesu is funny as shit.

>>71311320
>No, it's the 14th. Get your popcorn ready.
A little over an hour from now.

>>71296693
anon, there's that schizo doc that talks about it
niji fucked up every branch they've created. it goes from the rapist in NijiJP all the way to ara chae's clique and maorin's literal torture background in KR to Niji purposely cutting funding and screwing over their ID livers to justify cutting them
Niji IS a black company, don't let any nijisister tell you otherwise.
everywhere they go, they only bring misery, blackmail, and corruption.

>>71311558
>the rapist in NijiJP
Is that the one they hired despite him explicitly saying he was joining to rape women?

>>71311540
>A little over an hour from now.
I can't wait.

>>71311762
on his personal twitter on it as well, yes
raito
and that's only the SURFACE of what JP has done.

It's down at 3,120

>>71311558
I didn't need convincing that Niji is a black company but I didn't expect actual disfigurement. Jesus christ.

>>71311875
Damn, what other fucked up shit happened in JP?

>>71287893
>>71288592

I hope Cover NEVER EVER expands into KR in that case. They seem like a nightmare to deal with.

>>71311997
There was someone who got terminated for making a baseball joke btw

>>71311943
Are you on a live ticker, or a 20 minute delay ticker? Because I'm using Yahoo Finance, and it's on a 20m delay.
3135 as of 1.49pm JST

>>71311997
ugh I lost the link to the doc.
I got this though. https://rentry.org/exx63

So what's going to be the boring outcome and hilarious outcome?

>>71312229
>https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca?unread=1306

>>71312254
I got you. The document (from Reddit) mostly only concerns the financial side but the compilation of controversies was put in at the end as a glossary.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VtIfkDY-0l6xtr7Usp-vPPM_GM3KqGdZbCANhixnvoA/edit

>>71311997
>Niji mobbing Mirei after she made the baseball joke and forcing her to graduate (basically a termination)
>The first Gen NijiJP livers revolting against management for shit treatment and standards.
>Roa/Meiro killing each other over a small issue which management sabatoged, making Roa the target of physical and online harassment. Meiro leaked to a dramatuber and Roa was forced to retire in disgrace despite being innocent. Management refused to let the two talk it out and instead, miscommunicated messages between them, escalating.
>Lulu being harassment online and physically stalked, with Niji doing nothing to help and forcing her to graduate.
>Nijiantis driving Aloe to suicide. This is especially fucked up since Holo was her chance to escape her shitty home life but just because she dared to warn about potential dangers of working in corpos (Niji inferred from her statements), Nijiantis doxxed her and sent death threats to her family and her father's workplace. Her father was already abusive before, but he turned for the worst, and she attempted suicide shortly after leaving Holo due to "being unable to stand the harassment."
>Axia forced to retire after Niji management refused to help him against obsessive fans who wanted to infantilize him. Niji refused to deploy any mods into his streams and watched as the crazies burned down his career, despite him begging for help. It got so bad, the crazies went into OTHER people's streams, some not even vtubers, to slander/mock him and cause public outrage towards him.

and this is only the tip of the iceberg.

Where is the financial report taking place? There a livestream link?

>>71312270
>boring outcome
Nothing happens and Shittysanji goes back to normal
>hilarious outcome
Shittysanji actually crashes and burns

>>71309377
Damned Reincarnation is really good. I read most of the novel, and it's definitely the best; it has a quality manhwa adaption as well.

>>71312083
They already have DEVI_S for that.
Just pick a good chuuba that can speak JP and shipped them to JP.
Have her do KR/JP content and now you have both KR/JP fan. Like what Tsuna from VSPO did.

>>71312270
>Boring outcome
Nijifes saves their ass and they have a solid financial quarter within expected financial projections
>Absolute hilarity
Nijisfes underperformed and they at best broke even. Financial results are nowhere near projections. Chaos ensues

>>71312475
Thanks anon. I am always surprised by how much Cover has their shit together in comparison.

>>71312475
Why was Lulu of all people getting harassed anyway? I know about the stalking since her roommate was more or less an open secret but I've never knew why she was getting harassed.

>>71310818
And it's not even 200 dollars, it was 169 for the all inclusive package
Meanwhile the niji event wants to charge us more for less

>>71291061
Luxiem stopped being relevant ages ago bro. They are a joke now.

>>71312395
Thanks anon. I'll be sure to save it this time so I can actually read it (thoroughly).

>>71312702
nijijp antis are nuts
they've driven out at least a dozen livers so far, and drove one holo talent to a suicide attempt
they jump at everything and bring down anyone that isn't "loyal" enough to the company
iirc, lulu was a bit critical of management and i guess it was enough to trigger the retarded niji mobs.

>People are just realizing that Nijisanji has always been shit and evil even before the Bullying Selen/Doki situation
Well, at least people are learning.

>>71312475
Don't forget that Niji management forced Lulu to stop streaming, likely to drive up the argument that the harassment was causing financial damages, for a court case that never happened.
Lulu made it decently clear that she thought this was stupid, and would rather just stream through the resolution, but Niji wouldn't let her, so she decided to graduate instead.

>>71312744
As long as they are doing #1 still in their category, they are still untouchable in their own world. Hence why Luca still has a job despite doing things that would've gotten him terminated.

Is this a Jap meme? lol

come on... accelerate...

If Nijisanji doesn't implode tomorrow, /vt/ sold me smoke

>>71309444
the best way to read this site is to naïvely assume that the post appears exactly as anon typed it.

>>71313649
It probably won't. Rome didn't fall in one day after all.

>>71311518
Yeah it is. I also personally like bakadesusenpai

Anyone baking new bread?

Link to new bread.

>>71312649
You lose the Chink market and both your top Superchat earners and you have to learn something if you want your company to not burn.