/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>71176883
filian will pass Gura

>>71176883
she was a guest lecturer for Nexas earlier this month which got funded by Cover, Niji and a few others

What's funny is filian pretty much only streams on twitch and she's got those kinda numbers on YouTube.

>>71177140
She diligently prays every night for someone to pass her already

>>71176883
They need to acknowledge her if they want to acknowledge her awards.

>>71177333
Most of the girls don't have what it takes to go viral. But the very few that can, choose not to do so/ bother even trying. I can see Filian passing her, if she improved her content

>>71176883
>God acknowledged as Number One
All is right with the world.

>>71176883
Why do people still use subs as a metric?

>>71177427
Bot wars. Holo wins everytime
vs
Natural growth

>>71177427
because japan are numberfags

>>71177464
Well you are supposed to numberfag for investor presentations. Subs shouldn't be the only metric when it comes to popularity. You can have 10m subs and each video gets 100k views so it's useless.

>>71177427
Cause everyone including v-tubers and companies acknowledges it as the most important number?

>>71177307
She is stong on Shorts, and that get's her subs.

>>71176883
>Kobo is going to surpass Mori
I'M GONNA COOM

>>71177371
Is a list that show who the top 10 most subscribed vtubers are you idiot. She is number 4, so of course she would be on the list.

>>71176883
Man, remember when that peewiediepie guy had like a hundred million subscribers? puts into perspective how much vtubers could grow if they met right conditions at the right time.

>>71177507
Anon, Moist freakin Critical has almost 15 million subs and get like 20k ccvs which is less than several other holos yet his vod views on the other hand is a different story. Mori will get sell way more music than others and has an impact in Asia for example.

>>71177427
You can brag to investors about it.

>>71177624
The right time and condition was during COVID. It already happened. Now tech need to advance for anything worthwhile to happen.

>>71177427
What else are they going to use? Twitch followers?

>>71177858
>nimu still at the top
worthless ES followers are as good as botted

>>71177140
well yeah, gura's channel has practically died. lots of hololivers will pass her too

>>71177307
her twitch streams are basically just content generators for making youtube clips and shorts with. in a sense her main platform is youtube since that's where the finished products end up

>>71178039
>gura's channel has practically died.

>>71177217
What is nexass

>>71178245
https://nexas.live/virtual-talent-academia-nexas-launched-by-forcreators-post-funding/

>>71178078
filian streams are fun, but unless it's a collab or one of her game shows, I usually can't handle those 4 hour adhd zoomer streams.

>>71177464
But those are the least useful numbers.

>>71177661
>>71177518
>What else are they going to use?
>the exact same number on a different website?
Anon...
People decide who is a big streamer based on how many people are watching them, not how many inactive accounts they have lying around.

>>71178039
she gains tens of thousands of subs everytime she streams, she is unreachable in EN, nor will anyone come close.

>>71176883
Who the heck is this?

>>71178388
Twitch vtuber for zoomers. Lots of loud noises, prop comedy and cartwheels with full body tracking.

>>71178388
tiktok babies' pekora

>>71177427
Because their "God" Gura is winning.

If it were someone else they suddenly wouldn't care about subs.

>>71178078
So technically her youtube channel is just clipper channel for her streams on twitch

>>71176883
>YouTube subscribers
Fucking pointless statistic

>>71178388
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/10vB84OHBTw

>>71177858
>MONARCH, QUEEN OF THE MULTIVERSE
kino

>>71177217
holy shit she's a legit grifter now

>>71176883
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpnW68Q8ltc

>>71177858
CCV or watch hours.

Fillian is unironically funny

>>71179044
income from streams, memberships/subs and merch would be an actually good metric.

>>71176883
literally who? i never heard of filian or mythic before

>>71179120
Mythic is an organization that gets big streamers sponsorships.
Filian is a mid-4view who got popular through YT Shorts for Zoomers.

>>71177427
because it makes gura feel relevant in 2024

>>71179120
mythic is Asmongold's talent agency
they handle sponsorships and merch and have no ownership over the talents

filian streams on twitch and is the vtuber equivalent of jackass

>>71179000
Brown Lamy, The Queen of Vtubing...

>>71179227
>twitch
makes sense why i never heard of it

>>71177217
>got funded by Cover, Niji and a few others
Really?

>>71179419
>>71178275

>>71178039
*gains subs for doing nothing*

>>71179431
>Angel investors who funded Cover and Anycolor when they were small
That's very different from Cover and Anycolor funds this small company

>>71176883
nijisisters?

>>71176883
Man, even if Gura basically quit and stopped growing 2 years ago, it's still astonishing how far head she shot of everyone else. If she actually stuck around and was active, I imagine not just her but the whole of hololive would be doing a lot better. Kinda sad.

>>71179090
physical comedy is underrepresented in vtubers because most of these bitches are lazy fat fucks who couldn't even stand on their feet for an entire stream without getting winded. filian doing gymnastics and falling over and hurting herself and rolling around on the floor and yelling at people is quality.

>>71177307
She streams on the streaming website and posts videos on the video website, nothing weird about it.

>>71179504
it's all japanese people who got the duolingo vod recommended to them

>>71179300
Don't publicly out your self as a poor thirdworlder who doesn't have twitch included in their mobile plan. At least have some self awareness.

>>71179227
That seems like a pretty sweet deal

>>71176883
Woah... So this is the power of playing ball with Cover instead of insulting them...

>>71179843
I mean in comparison to other streamers on twitch, she has a lot more subs on YouTube than those other streamers like Shylily, Veibei, or even ironmouse, who all do shorts as well. So she's doing something right.

>>71179943
it's actually pretty fucking standard. you're just used to jap bullshit and let them trick you into thinking it's normal to treat employees as company property.

>>71177858
>searched for the Monarch one
>it's just Amalee
chuuni kino

>>71179943
well, they stole 3 VShojos for themselves.

>>71179904
>he has twitch included in his mobile plan

>>71176883
Filian should have zoomer sex with me

>>71178481
>>71179191
Cope and go make another bait thread.

>>71179107
Anyone else remember when Vox CCV were going down and sisters were coping with "BUT LOOK AT THE SUPERCHATS" and everyone were laughing at them? I remember

>>71179504
and marine gained 50k in the same period, so i don't know what point you think you're making here? she'll obviously be overtaken

>>71180556
never watched any nijis and never will so no idea kek

>>71180569
Marine is practically dead and doesn't stream.

>>71177593
Kobo has more collabs with males than Mori, yet she gets a free pass.

>bigger than pekora
>not even her main platform
How is she so powerful?

>>71180625
You don't have to watch them, you had to be on the numbers threads. But maybe it's for the best if you are not going there.

>>71177456
Alright who got the natural growth then? Nijikeks?

>>71177140
Not with these numbers

>>71179904
>twitch included in their mobile plan
the what now?

i wonder if she wants to stay independent

>>71180941
Probably thrive better as independent, she wants to be known as THE host of the vtuber world, belonging to a corp might restrict who she can invite to her events.

>>71180626
Is ok when id does it

>>71179120
Bitch that has a lot of subs simply because of shorts. She even said her subs are cheap compared to anyone that got them from streaming.

>>71180941
Why would she ever join any corpo? She literally has no reason to.

>>71177427
investors only care about numbers and subs are the most concrete numbers available
that doesn't mean it's an ACCURATE metric. Just that it's the only one that works.

>>71177427
It's the easiest metric for someone to understand.

>>71179107
No one's going to reveal that. Watchours on Youtube are also internal data. CCV is an ok metric but not as simple to understand for casual observers as subs.

>>71177642
No one cares about jrap crap

>>71176883
It's crazy how Gura is still at the top in 2024 despite putting in zero effort compared to everyone else on that ranking.

>>71180671
it's the fruit snacks

They forgot CookieswirlC for some reason. Curious.

>>71176883
>Gum Gooby at #1
CookieSwirlC has 5 times as many subs

>>71179904
>Twitch in his mobile plan
Are you from Guatemala and just projecting?

>>71177858
You should use their main platform
Filian's Twitch following is a more accurate reflection of her audience, for example
Go to her YT and check out the viewer retention on her videos. It's not great for 2.5M subs. Her shorts are where the attention is, but the viewership is all over the place.

Her audience on Twitch is consistent and representative.

Soon based Ui will be on that list

>>71180671
>>71182579
Now show me her actual CCV on Twitch. If it's lower than Pekora make the offline tv whore dogeza for the queen on stream.

>>71182919
Twitch culls viewers more aggressively than YouTube. Compare Myth numbers on Twitch vs YT for example

>Mos subscribed Vtuber
>Not Chuuymine with 10 m sub

https://www.youtube.com/@ChuuyMine

lmao, hololive doesn't want to include bigger vtubers because they make their company look small

>>71182982
She streamed on yt sometimes or she never did? If she didn't it's even more worthless.

>/#/ claimed she was irrelevant
>She's in the industry leaders
KEK numbertrannies are you retarded faggots??

>>71183050
Nevermind I found it
>5k CCV on YT
Naked dogeza now. This whore is worthless

>>71183108
>mogs 90% of advent, myth and council

>>71180626
Anon nobody gives a fuck about unicorn bullshit, you're literally just furry-tier annoying fucks that everyone despises..

>>71183025
I've never heard of that guy (prob because I don't speak third world). How does he do those numbers on youtube when his twitch channel gets such low views? (Legit interested in knowing how third worlders actually know of him / why he's popular with them / why his youtube views are so out of sync with his twitch views.)
Also not really surprised that hololive aren't aware of third world vtubers, I doubt it was intentional.

I just came back to life from like 10 hours of hangover shorts watching, filians shit is unfunny and she feels just like an other VShojo whore, blocked don't care
>>>/#/

>>71180628
damn, and she still gained 50k? that's nuts!

>>71176883
Kizuna Ai never hit 3m? She didn't gain 10k subs in the years since Gura was racing her?

>>71176883
How long they gonna boast this sub count lmao she streams 6 times a year

>>71182183
Also Wolfychu should be between Gura and Marine.

>>71183243
Weren't we talking about how she mogs Pekora? Damn you have no faith in that bitch, sad.

Filian owes me sex

>>71183311
twitch and youtube are distinct ecosystems, basically like console wars or the iphone/android debate
it is very hard to get people who watch on one platform to watch on the other

What always gets me most is how Pekora is this popular, she is literally just orange woman JP but old.

>>71183025
>21m subs
https://www.youtube.com/@Cookieswirlc

>>71181732
Video views are also easy to understand and they show a more accurate image of profitability for investors. It's piss easy to track too. The main issue with it is that it favors talents who push out more MVs and projects over those who just stream and it does not reflect actual popularity, but it's still a more useful metric than something that's utterly unmonetizable.

>>71178374
Gura barely gains ten thousand subs in a month anymore.

>>71184065
>The main issue with it is that it favors talents who push out more MVs and projects over those who just stream
You can just treat livestream views and video views differently.
>it does not reflect actual popularity
It absolutely does. Even if you try to argue that it doesn't reflect the talent's popularity, it still reflects the popularity of the individual piece of content.

>>71184413
see
>>71179504
>inb4 but but this reason and that reason
Doesn't matter. The point is, she still gains min 10K subs per month

She will never be surpassed

>>71184502
Yes, and CoryxKenshin gains 100k despite having not uploaded since June. Any big creator is going to gain subs over time.

>>71177140
I wish. Might ease her anxiety so she starts steaming again.

>>71180628
So does Gura

>>71180835
Some anon made a live map of twitch vtuber viewerbase or something and people noticed that almost no twitch viewers were from SEA. People did some digging and found out that SEA mobile plans give unlimited data for YouTube, but don't include twitch.

>>71176883
Good, she's cute

>>71176883
Proud of her

>>71176883
>Open branch in USA
>Its on fucking cali
Rip bros. it was fun while it lasted.

>>71177518
Kizuna Ai had 2.9m for years and never broke 3m due to the complete lack of growth.
Subscribers is a good metric at a glance but it's not the only metric worth looking at because her individual views were very, very low.
Meanwhile, for a while Nijisanji was TRAILING behind Hololive in terms of subs despite having far, far more viewers on their higher end.
And then at the same time there's the "normal" youtube accounts that don't have subs OR ccv but have a massive outreach due to their total views eclipsing their sub counts by 70-80%+

>>71183661
Actually I'm pretty sure she lost subs

>>71183740
>shifting the goal
Ah the classic numbertroon cope

>>71183788
Another reason I think is twitch bitrate is do shit for third world I don't know if it's the embed ads, but I did a test on my end. 30 mins of twitch 1080 used more data than a 30 1440p youtube video.

>>71190334
Where would you expect it to be? Omaha?

>>71191259
>shifting the goal
>>71180671
>bigger than pekora
Projection is strong in you.

>>71176883
wtf

>>71177858
Combined

>>71176883
>>71177422
That's a big fish
>>71177427
big number = big PR

>>71190846
>Kizuna Ai had 2.9m for years and never broke 3m due to the complete lack of growth.
Are you seriously implying her sub count is undeserved? Kizuna Ai was king of vtubing for years, retard.

>Meanwhile, for a while Nijisanji was TRAILING behind Hololive in terms of subs despite having far, far more viewers on their higher end.
Literally just Koshien as an exemption from the rule, while getting blown the fuck out throughout the rest of the year.

>And then at the same time there's the "normal" youtube accounts that don't have subs OR ccv but have a massive outreach due to their total views eclipsing their sub counts by 70-80%+
No actual examples of these low sub low ccv youtubers with massive outreach provided.

>>71182183
>>71183025
>>71183905
>>71183729
Retards.

>>71177217
Holy shit, is there a recording of this? Learning from a master is what I need

>>71179227
>Asmongold
Way for Filian to immediately discredit herself. Anybody who works with that vile disgusting sperg of a human is worthless.

>>71176883
fillian is only popular because she's zoomie screaming: the vtuber
burger children eat that shit up

>>71182183
Also Jaiden Animations.

>>71200241
Thats like saying an amazon seller "works" with jeff bezos. Mythic just handles sponsorships and merch, it's not the kind of vtuber agency you're thinking of.

>>71200241
Assmong is a repulsive dramafagging grifter oldschool liberal who turns retarded twitch kids against modern brainrot with FACTS and LOGIC, and sisters HATE him for it.

>>71178388
The only real vtuber on the market, aside from projekt melody

>>71199508
Why are they leaving these bigger vtubers out of their results?

Bump

>>71178388
Remember that clip from years back in VR chat of a Japanese girl called core63_mc?

If that clip was a whole VTuber it would be filian

dont care
i will marry filian

>>71199402
No, I'm saying that she shot up to 2.6m, then stalled for over 5 years. a snapshot of sub count doesn't actually mean much of anything without knowing about the growth, as well as the video viewers before and after.

>Literally just Koshien as an exemption from the rule, while getting blown the fuck out throughout the rest of the year.
I'm not just talking about 2023. in 2021 and 2022 (last time I actually bothered to check in on NijiJP), they had people with less than half of HoloEn's subs getting regularly 20-30k viewers. Clearly sub count isn't the only statistic worth measuring here.

>>And then at the same time there's the "normal" youtube accounts that don't have subs OR ccv but have a massive outreach due to their total views eclipsing their sub counts by 70-80%+
How about... literally every other youtuber on earth whose primary content is edited videos? Haven't you ever heard the whole "Hey, if you're watching this, please subscribe. Only 19.3% of viewers are actually subscribed, so if you take the time to do it, it'll really help me out with the algorithm" spiel?
Sub count is one metric, but it doesn't tell the whole story.

>>71182982
That is just false. It is difficult to get an audience to move platforms. Ironmouse got a third of her normal ccv when streaming on YouTube. You only count as a viewer in youtube if the audio is up and it is your active tab, and embeds only count for twitch.

>>71177858
Chibi is doing pretty well for someone that isn't a hardcore leech or corpo gifted

>>71178481
Can't wait for holofaggots to make a million excuses as to why it doesn't count when Filian inevitably passes Gura.

>>71177217
oh neat

>>71201547
Got most of her channel subs not as a steamer so she's a convert

>>71219758
I mean so was Ironmouse. And Nyanners, and Cooksie, and...

>>71178485
No. Her yt channel's main income is from edited mid length content. around 10 to 30 with some being 6-8min in the shortest and almost 1h at the longest.

It's not a clipper channel, it is a regular youtube channel with shorts slapped onto it.

>>71182183
>>71201547
AND annoying orange... unreal

>>71220503
Ehh Jaiden exclusively did animation content for a long time, I don't think it's quite like Ironmouse or Nyanners. Cookie was a kidstuber who does toy reviews.

>>71177217
That's kinda cool, though from her streams, I think her target demographic is very young children.

>>71182183
Pewdiepie too...

>>71176883
>Kizuna Ai - 2.99Msubs
Wasn't she at around 3M by the time she retired?

>>71230494
she has a lot of 30+ viewers and 20% of her viewership is female

>>71231171
Inactive channels lose subs over time, anon. Either from people cleaning up their subscription tab or Google culling dead accounts.

Remind me again why is ironmouse considered the top twitch vtuber instead of Filian?

>>71235710
ironlung has the twitch nepo gang backing her

>>71235710
Because Mousey gets significantly more viewers and has over double Filian's followers?

>>71200241
yeah I hate nyanners too

>>71176883
>Kizuna AI but no Cookie
well, it would look bad if some indie had 5 times of Guras numbers obviously
Cookie making corpos seethe

>>71176883
Isn't she also doing alright on the EN scene in general? Good for her.

>>71179904
dunno man, I don't think this is the problem here >>71177858
>1st place

>>71177518
lol they print the sub count on the ad. They are literally just /#/ the corporation

>>71177858
Who the fuck is Nimu Spacecat?

>>71179904
>twitch included in their mobile plan
You don't have unlimited data? What kind of back water country are you from?

>>71238988
My queen. I kneel.

>>71199508
>it only counts a vtubeing if the corporations say so!
Cuck mentality

>>71235710
She have gunrun and twitch direct connection

>>71238988
If she's so popular, why does no one ever talk about her in this board? The only time she's brought up is to dunk on gura

pewdiepie will go out of retirement as a vtuber and he will be number 1 again

>>71176883
who?

>>71240185
Her audience are unironically children. She has that market cornered.

>>71240185
Because her audience is too young to post on this board.

>>71176883
>meme shorts subs