/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>71050521
>HoloEN confirmed for this year
>HoloID due
>HoloJP 7 due
There's probably going to be 2 to 3 hololive gens this year so graduations aren't necessarily for Niji waves.

>>71050521
Girls? In my NijiEN?

>>71050521
>Sayu's art mama and friend going anywhere near Niji

Op your clearly on drugs

>>71050521
Reiny is such a numberfag

I really can't see NijiEN going for something like an all female gen. Not only is the audience for that not there at all anymore, its going to cause tension with some of the existing female talents in the off chance some of the newbies take their audience away.

>one of them literally ungraduated the second the drama hit
l m fucking a o

>>71051223
Never underestimate Niji's ability to make shit choices

>>71051223
Any remaining male fans in nijiEN are diehard fandrones who would never leave their oshi ever.

>>71050521
>Shizukou
I remember this woman
She could be Niji material

>>71050521
biscotti is focusing on art, i could see some of these disappearing forever like harune. soya could be joining idol i dont know about the rest

>>71050640
>HoloEN confirmed for this year
Source?

Hhahhha all female, sister are gonna get so mad if this rrat is true

>>71050521
Shizukou, the one that had thrown away all her potential by rebranding into the ugliest coomer bait model and antagonized people saying she fucked up until she quietly went back to her old model

>>71051655
Two were loudly having sex outside my windown yesterday, it was a sign

>>71051761
Woman moment

>>71051655
NTA but Yagoo baiting about expanding. Big holotalents doing something in europe. Lots of talk about something very big being announced at fes. Yagoo saying the hololive theme for this year is "worldwide". Yagoo on a talk show saying they will be expanding Hololive into english speaking countries this year. Yagoo also saying the only reason EN 3 was delayed so long was because they did not want to hire during covid when they couldn't guarantee talent access to 3d and hololive resources in Japan.
>confirmed
Not confirmed but there's a lot of hints there will probably be EN4 this year.

>>71051223
>Not only is the audience for that not there at all anymore
But Hololive is doing well having only female gens.

>>71051878
Yeah, Hololive

Lol

>>71051878
Hololive is its own beast. I mean for NijiEN specifically, there is very little demand for an all girl gen in this company in particular as the remaining fanbase is mostly women that came in during Luxiem/Noctyx. Plus the fact that shipbait was rampant for ages, which turned a lot of casual fans off. And that's not even getting into the fact that a lot of male fans hate some of the male livers at this rate, so interactions between the two fanbases is just asking for trouble.

>>71051878
His point is that the females of nijiEN regularly cuck their viewers so there's no significant straight male audience left around who'll watch some new female gen, which would likely be corporate mandated to cuck them too.

>>71050521
>Shizukou
Her going to Niji would be fucking hilarious-

>>71050521
>nijisanji
are you sure?

>>71051878
That guy is exaggerating but it IS true NijiEN will have to fight a very tough uphill battle if it wants any future female talents to have a viewership above 1 Finana. Trust takes the stairs up and elevator down; they've got exactly 0 trust left with their male audience. They have regressed so much they're actually worse off than when they first broke into the EN market with Lazulight in terms of reputation. And bitches like Enna will have to be whipped until they stop trying to sabotage newcomers.

>>71050653
>>71051223
here's their dry run

>>71051852
>5 new holoEUs
>3 are hapas and they end up moving to Japan
>1 streams at nocturnal hours for some god forsaken reason
>remaining 1 streams apex

>>71050521
More probable for Holo. With the current events Niji would not dare to get into EU unless they launch a completely new branch. Adding these to EN is just asking for another mess overall.

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>>71050640
It Idol Corp
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>>71053399

>>71053778
Ok, you convinced me, that looks 100% more beliavable. Idol expanding in EU too.

>>71053778
You really think they would announce their gen when they aren't even done graduating yet?

>>71053778
Honestly Idol and Phase are both more believable timing than either the big corpo or the ex big corpo.

>>71053982
No but there are clearly new Idol Corp coming and there are 5 perfectly fitting EU leaving. Joining NijiEN right now would be a net debuff, give it one month or two if it survives.
HoloEU would be great but Yagoo's pace is far better.

>>71053778
It really makes sense. Joining Idol or Phase would probably get you the same amount in viewers and donations as joining NijiEN now, just with a less stressful fanbase. For some reason the femoids in NijiEN are like unicorns times 100 in terms of schizo behavior.

>>71054122
Some of those are already bigger than Idol and Niji so no fucking chance they'll jump to either of those

>>71054819
Big but indie. Joining a corp gives you gen mates and a redebut buff. It's like a Tokusatsu, combine for maximum potential.

>>71054926
This is a very pathetic cope

>>71054926
>Joining a corp gives you gen mates and a redebut buff*.
*Only in Hololive

>>71050521
Reiny is Rin's friend, so it's probable she was scouted for Idol.

>>71055331
And Soya is friends with Victoria Brightshield. Doesn't mean anything.

>>71054003
Phase just debuted a gen mid December and it flopped hard since they were not blatant /pol/ dogwhistlers and grifters

>>71053778
With Jews you lose. Who would want to be a vtuber for an Israeli company? I had a Jew boss before and it was like Gaza.

>>71051589
fuck. i love biscotti. it's a shame

>>71050951
Reiny is the globie dog it seems like

>>71053778
Welp hope they enjoy the grifter panda

>>71055836
proof?

>>71050521
Are there any Prism girls that graduated after prism shutdown?
What about those girls from Vreverie, Kavvai and the Crunchyroll girl

>>71055868
Go look at the art on Bonnie Barkswell and compare to reinys.

>>71054926
>gen mates
Everyone in Idol Corp are disgusting

>>71055964
There are a couple that are graduating soon iirc

>>71055964
>Vreverie
>Singapore
Unfortunately for them, Singapore is hololive country. Not even Singaporeans themselves know about Vreverie and only know about Hololive

>>71055964
The gen 3 kawaii members that left formed vdere and they're not going anywhere, except Oceane who's whereabouts I'm not aware of. I don't think anyone else from that corpo is leaving for now.

>>71051761
She was surprisingly big on BiliBili and buried the new model when they started to go after non-family friendly content.

>>71053778
Aren't a lot of these graduates significantly bigger than idolcorp talents? Why would they take a downgrade?

>>71056320
Typical case of a small corpo feeling like they're the next Hololive just because one of their streamers can get more than 400 viewers at a time.

>>71056188
Kavvai and kawaii are separate companies (that somehow managed to announce themselves to the world on the exact same day...). Kavvai was a subsidiary of AirAsia and supposedly pretty black with multi-month delays in payments.

>>71055975
Eh, I'm not convinced. Why would she join a literal who corpo? Also, I think they will likely end up in the same corpo, and Soya was streaming VRChat while each of the globie girls were active on twitter.

>>71056320
Stagnant, torpedoed her own channel and couldn’t recover, stagnant before grad announcement, stagnant, who corp member.

>>71056479
Soya is probably going to idol. They have a good contract by all accounts and she hasn’t grown in a meaningful way in 3 years. That’s a hard stat to look at and be hopeful when you hate your day job and want to stream full time.

>>71056779
She also didn't really try that much to grow.

Yuuniho is too big for a small corpo. Why would she go small corpo if she already gets 1k ccv as an indie? Why go Niji if she already has NijiEN numbers as an indie? Vshojo would let her keep her ip, so she wouldn't graduate.

Yuuni is either hololive or she's actually retiring from streaming.

>>71056978
Yeah it could be a sana situation where she got a big gacha contract and can’t juggle both

>>71056978
>Yuuni is either hololive or she's actually retiring from streaming.
She said "We will meet again soon". She isn't retiring.

I will miss them. No I will not watch corpo slave streamers.

>>71053778
this idol thing is happening soon, lets wait and see who they got

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>>71057046
So it's either Mihoyo OR HoloEN? I hope pesto doge gets into Holo but idk if a vtuber agency with idol DNA wants a raspy voiced girl.

>>71052578
a piace of trivia, yuniiho was actually one of the first EN indies to collab with an hololive talen (Kureiji Ollie)

>>71057037
She still did her work as Yuniiho in her Yuniiho profiles. She wouldn't need to graduate if she was just focusing on art instead of streaming.

>>71057446
I would 100% hate her going to Holo. Yuni is way too lewd to go get sanitized by that rubbish, but if that's what she wants to do, then I wish her well.

>>71057549
She could still be graduating from vtubing or streaming. Increasingly looking unlikely, but possible. In which case she's still around with her reputation and brand but just not streaming. If she is shelving all of it then she's going to another corpo, which sucks.

>>71057686
it's not 2020 anymore, holo can be a bit lewd too

>>71053778
don't do an IQ test

>>71050521
Oh shit Soya and retarded panda too? HoloEU incoming?

>>71057880
>bit
She's going to have a model that moves like a brick, lacking the huge bouncy tits she adores so much on her own models, and she won't be a liberated European slut. I will cry.

>>71056320
yeah which is why it's complete nonsense.
Idol would have paid for them to join as their persona to also integrate the respective viewerbase, not make them graduate.

>>71058059
maybe it's the other way around and she further demolishes the walled garden like Nerissa is doing.

>>71058265
Eh I'm sure she will. I hope Holofans enjoy Merryweather because you're going to get a lot of Danish homosexuality soon!

>>71050521
ogey
>>71050640
>holoEU cope
any of these is GFE or has any aspiration to being an Idol?
inb4 muh stream monster

>>71056526
>who corp member
Her company funds Idol lmao

>>71050521
Yunii - Italian
Reiny - British
Poya - German
Yeah I'm thinking HoloEU is coming

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>>71050640
If EN4(Armis2 for the guy) isnt soon then its possible one of them might make it in

>>71050521
EN4

>>71050640
If none of them are Pomu I don't care.

>>71062665
Either that or someone with a lot of money wants to burn a lot of money

>>71062986
Pomu was in the clique.

>>71050521
>join Niji
>I'm smarter than this and work harder
>All that shit won't happen to me
Every time.
But a contract is a contract.
So lawyer the fuck up.

>>71056122
I'm sorry Holobronie, but Singapore is Nijiland.

>>71063292
Still the better freelancer right now.

>>71064062
wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRI0Ods5EoY

>>71055613
good, ph*se deserves to die.

>>71051761
THAT one? Shit she used to play gran turismo at one point, I think. Before the coomer model

>>71062986
why the fuck would either party be interested.
holo can put any random in it with no baggage attached and pomu would be walking on eggshells with extremely vindictive viewers judging every single word AND she already has an established fanbase she could easily return to.

>muh idols
this is business, not your fantasy land

>>71056779
She literally made no effort to try streaming full time or didn't communicate it. Very irregular and randomly moving around places. Always thought it was just a hobby for her.
>t. used to watch her since 2022

>>71058059
It's like a lobotomized squ

>>71067637
This, and she didn't really do much networking, besides that one time she went on Filian's talent show. The clip channel too only lasted for three weeks or so.

>>71050521
Joining NijiEN in the current year is the easiest way to scream "I'm a desperate fool with no sense of self-worth".

>>71067884
I like her but idk if i would follow her in a corpo. Feels like it'd legit hinder her. That one drunk collab she had with nina and bat still lives rent free in my mind.

Is she good?
i checked her for a bit. she looks boring and too much dead air

>>71068330
There are 6 girls in the OP. Who are you talking about?

>>71068566
oh right i noticed this is different thread.
i mean yuniiho

>>71062981
I miss her

>>71068858
Oh, no idea. I never watched her, but from what I read on /lig/ she was kinda whorish. Close with that Merrywheather dude.

>>71069513
>close
don't they literally live together

>>71069599
Like I said, I only know about her from reading what other people had to say, and that only really since she announced her graduation. No idea what she did.

>>71068330
>Is she good?
Good artist, so-so streamer

>>71050521
>nijiEN girls
DOA as fuck. If Bisco left v4mirai for niji Im going to personally anti her. Pretty sure she said she was going to focus on art though.

>>71068330
>boring and too much dead air
HoloEN confirmed

>>71064733
That's Taiwan.

Girls saying I will never forgwt it or I will always remember it really pulls on my heartstrings

>>71070238
She is not going to join niji or anyone else for that matter.

>>71053193
the one with Shizukou and Reiny was really fun. The other LC collab Wilson did afterwards with a bunch of other twitch vtubers. I think one has an onlyfans was way worse.... zero chemistry, the girls were 45mins late to start and the banter was just mean.

>>71053193
was shizukou the one that had the tetarded coomer model for baiting clippers then 180d on that?

>>71069513
Being in Merryweather's sphere of influence is a huge red flag.

>>71074004
Yeah that as well. That fag is disgusting

>>71074004
>>71075350
Why?
t. doesn't pay attention to him

>>71075549
The impression I have is that guy is slimy at best when clout chasing. There's that screenshot from last year with him in some talk show agreeing/saying that the best time to slide into your "friend's" DMs is when they're graduating and you suspect they got into holo/are getting big. Anecdotally, but there was the shameless 180 he pulled on zaion
>guys don't believe solely in what corpos say, there are many sides to a story
>sister says the bullet points to him
>no but that may be out of context
>pulls up the rape(?)/jew jokes, can't remember
>nah fuck her

>>71050521
soya is probably in the next niji wave since she is still a big nijifag and is friends with underhill and evanito

>>71073277
I will never forgive Bilibili for killing K_Pring's model...

>>71077062
>is friends with underhill and evanito
ew

>>71076166
>pulls up the rape(?)/jew jokes, can't remember
what were the jokes specifically and what was the context of them? People bring those jokes up a lot and I want to know if they were really as bad as everyone makes it seem.

>>71077062
The latest wave was an absolute flop before shit hit the fan, I can only imagine debuting now

>>71077490
The rape joke is that a character's main backstory is that she was raped and dealing with the trauma.
At some point, said character is in her underwear
Zaion went "Oh daaaaaaaaaamn, no wonder she-I mean"
It's tasteless and definitely a mistake for a corpo vtuber, but it's nowhere near as bad as the sisters would have you believe.

>>71077609
That's pretty crass, and unfunny, not sure I would like the audience that enjoys those sort of jokes because soon you would get the retards that actually feel that way unironically. See pippa

>>71077607
I'm still kekking that kunai's PL has more than double of her subs in comparison. They're a legit debuff.

>>71077862
Sure, but how many organs would have been extracted at this point if they enforced those bullet points equally?

>>71069513
She said in stream that she doesn’t live with merry and they are not together so I don’t know where this come from

>>71077862
Yeah, it's one of the reasons that many people, including both sayu's fans and sayu herself, absolutely agree that she should have been fired, but the thing that people rally behind is that the termination notice and subsequent blacklistings and slander, combined with their braindead contracts were completely out of line and tarnished her career in ways that were completely uncalled for.
For what it's worth, she's gotten a lot better since then at keeping out those kinds of intrusive thoughts and being more selective with her humor. Watching her since the termination, she's worked extremely hard to reflect on her faults as a content creator and either improve or diminish them.

>>71077609
>Make a game with a character dealing with the aftermath of rape
>Put a scene where you're forced to look at them half naked creepily.

I don't know man, while the joke was quite edgy the game itself basically set people up for it, it was a matter of time before it happened.

>>71077862
As much as people considere Idubbs a cuck I think there's something to be learned from his legacy, if you're gonna get popular saying nigger, be ready to be surrounded by people who use nigger genuinely.

>>71077607
They didn't even try, they straightup shadowdropped the wave and didn't even named the groud

>>71050521
AriaRinChan just ended her hiatus after going back to school to start a new career
https://www.twitch.tv/ariarinchan
She was a professional artist/rigger who was understandable worried about AI.

>>71078165
>Understanding a traumatized person trying to reclaim their sexuality and own autonomy is a joke.

>>71078146
>>71078046
The blatant irregularity in enforcement as well as rather childish discourse surrounding it is a pretty big mark against Niji and I'm honestly super surprised that there are still applicants willing to apply. At this point the company has a certain type of audience that they're attracting and just by joining you're subliminally signalling that you're okay being associated with it.

>>71078146
I don't watch her much but I don't doubt that she hasn't grown. It actually makes me sad that people gave Enna the benefit of the doubt and said she grew when she essentially called Kyo a nigga but that goes out the window for Sayu.

>>71078602
Did they only start pulling the hit list with zaion's?

>>71050521
Biscotti won't join any corpo agency.

>>71076166
I watched the Geega video where he says that, and it's pretty clear he was being sarcastic and making fun of people who do that. If you watch the rest of the video, the mood is very much satirical. At no point is the topic anything close to "here's what you should do to get clout"

kinda weird people keep repeating this without even checking where its from desu

>>71079833
Welcome to /vt/
Some people still think Sayu fucked Nousagi because of their ESL not understanding how "night of fun" could mean a collab and not fucking when they're on opposite sides of the planet and she hasn't stopped streaming in 3 weeks straight for 16 hours a day at that time.

>>71080097
It was so fucking annoying correcting the ESLdramafags that think sayu and dn fucked unironically and not a joke insult for male collab.

>>71050521
soya, shizukou, reiny are going to idol corp
dunno about the other two

>>71050521
isn't Reiny the girl who talked about how she cheated on her bf and she thought it was a fun story to share? She'd do well in Niji

>>71077062
Proof? I'm a big fan of Soya, and I never saw anything indicating her being friends with them, or being a big nijifag. She was friends with Victoria before she joined, but that's it.

>>71080097
>>71080318
ESL's that support blow things out of proportion like that are actually retards.

That being said, I was fairly sympathetic toward the circumstances of her termination but her platforming of the doxxfaggots was too much for me and soured any potential appeal.

>>71079833
eh, idk. Still that guy seems slimy as fuck

>>71080669
ESL's that superfluously*** phone posting is ass.

>>71075549
>>71076166
There's also the whole thing where he got popular by doing cheap sunday paper comic strips but for weebs.
People argued about whether or not what he was doing counted as stealing art for a while if that adds anything. Never been super good about making artist credits visible.

>>71080694
Also that geega's whole vibe i got when i dropped in to watch her every now and then was the same as his. She was mostly in the middle of talking about networking or the /#/ side of things or just ranting at something tangentially related to streaming so that also molded my impression of her.

>>71080669
It makes more sense when you look at it in context. When she was publicly smited off the face of the planet, absolutely nobody wanted anything to do with her. The people in the vtuber sphere stayed far the fuck away and ghosted her because they didn't want to anger Nijisanji. The nijisanji fans obviously hated her because they believed the corpo. Anyone else either didn't know her or didn't care. The only people who would actually give a voice to someone that reviled would be the others who didn't have to risk losing their entire career just to tell her story or promote it, and without their help, she honestly would not have recovered as well as she did, if at all. It's not like she goes on regularly to leak Kotoka's location because she's still mad. It was an opportunistic decision that possibly saved her career and others by boosting the exposure to the bullshit going on over there.

>>71073277
yep

>>71067152
she had me hooked with those gt streams and that accent, but alas, the channel pivoted

>>71055613
>>71067136
>flopped
The fuck are you retards talking about?

>>71081830
I'm perfectly fine with her associating with Khyo and False, they both represent a niche to some degree as the 'vtuber news' and are an important part of the broader eco system (to some degree.)

But Depressed Nousagi and [whatever his other colleague is] are irredeemable scum and the complete bottom of the barrel. It's just one of those non-negotiables that I can't in good faith ignore.

>>71055613
saying it wont make it true seething sister

>>71082136
Same. Twitch threw her channel at me and I got hooked for a bit because a chuuba was playing, although badly, through GT7. And not like just some throwaway joke stream.

>>71082992
Yeah, but around that time was also DN's patreon fiasco (which honestly is exaggerated to high heaven as well). He was just wiped off the face of the earth harder than she was a month or two prior. She probably saw some kind of kinship there.

>>71050521

>>71083222
Agree to disagree then, best of luck to her and desperation can lead to extreme measures but associating with Nousagi is too far. Absolute trash human being that goes beyond his patreon and been plainly opportunistic (not to mention profoundly smug) in his willingness to spread personal info for his own benefit.

>>71083823
That's fine. Dealbreakers are dealbreakers after all. It's still a weird case for me, but right now at least, he's been helpful and supportive so I can't really turn on him unless he does something awful again. As far as I'm concerned, he's on probation.

>>71050521
If Reiny is in the group it has to be HoloEN 4 or the big new thing coming soon!

>>71055613
so truuuu sister slaayyyy

>>71062881
I want that cute girl with the ribbon over her eye only because she collabed a few times with a certain set of twins prior.

>>71050521
sus

>>71078165
>>71078602
>Put a scene where you're forced to look at them half naked creepily.
>Understanding a traumatized person trying to reclaim their sexuality and own autonomy is a joke.
It was a changing room, you dumb insufferable cunts. There was literally nothing sexual about that part of the game and no one was "reclaiming their sexuality" (whatever the fuck that means). The joke was crass and in poor taste, but it was a joke, and fictional characters don't have feelings. Many of the niji organs have made rape jokes, but none were never punished. Zaion wasn't punished for the rape joke either really, Niji management are just a bunch of disingenuous two-faced insect bitches and were trying to drum up more "violations" of her contract in her termination notice. They wanted her gone and so they tacked on as much bullshit as they could to justify her firing.

>>71092819
*none were ever punished

>>71051852
Nope, they said in stock holder meeting last year said they will pushed out 1 EN, 1 ID and 1 JP gen in this fiscal year (ended in april)

And within this fiscal year they already launched
- Holo Advent as HoloEN gen 3
- ReGloss as HoloJP
Only ID is left to debut and everyone suspected them to announced either in HoloFes or in april.

>>71093155
Speaking of stock, Niji's has fallen by nearly 100 points as of writing this. Wonder if the fall is about to begin again.

>>71056196
How the heck did she get big on BiliBili? Wasn't she English only?

>>71080694
I've been watching him for a while and he's honestly not a bad guy. Just autistic as fuck, which I relate to.

>>71093744
I dont know if its going to "fall" as dramatically as it did when Selen was terminated, but its not a good look that in less than a year Anycolor:
>Split their stock
>Bought back their stock for a lot of money
>Changed their stock type to "Loan Margin Trading Issue" in hopes of more liquidity
And their stock price is still a far cry from its high of 4200 yen a year ago.

>>71094209
4200 was mostly a brief peak, they've mainly stayed at a steady high 3000s with dips that they've recovered from. Part of me wonders if low 3000s are gonna be their new average, but we're gonna need a few months to see if NijiEN can "stabilize" itself for that to happen.

>>71050521
ID4 when?

>>71050640
2-3 more gens this year sounds excessive

>>71050521
What is Genesis from Idol?