/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Some nostalgia numberfagging

Irys got her collab ban lifted, do you think she`ll do any better than last week now?

>>7097333
>8pm streams and 5am steams for Pst
She should probably do better this week just based off of times, but we'll see.

>>7096879
ibrahim

>>7097288
A more innocent time...

>>7097333
Her schedule is not going to clash with Gura anymore so maybe Gura can push her time to 8PM now. I can already hear the seething from ESTs that will complain yet again aboutbher schedule

>>7097461
It was his birthday
As well as Nagao Kei's
Chima and Oga had 3D too

>>7097535
So Rushia wasn't celebrating anything?

>>7097288
Deadbeats used to be so smug.

>>7096879
Mori ironically is the gfe of EN aside from Kiara

>>7097553
that chart seems weekly, so nothing special. Just rushia being rushia.

>>7097333
I think not. She is a vsinger that mean she is not strong as gaming. Look at Suisei, she has 40k on singing stream but only has 10k in gaming stream. For irys think 6k to 8k is success.

>>7096879
Suprisingly low numbers for Kiara but I guess to be expected with only 4 public streams, 2 of which were collabs and one of the collabs being sponsored.

AND THE WINNER OF THE DAY IS
>Nene!?

No, really. Haachama had the bigger numbers but has surprised all with her 15k

>>7097815
>Minecraft
Eh, it's a buff game, not unexpected at all. The black guy from Niji got like 25k playing minecraft and he's probably way more irrelevant than Nene.

>>7097815
just like that one niji with his giant sky island so is Nenechis Mesaroad a great buff for her. if you look at part 9 of it you even see her breaking 16k views

>>7097629
Rushia had her anniversary not much ago anon...

I don't see anyone talking about the niji gartic collab at the moment. It was surprising to see Mayuzumi there to boost the other livers.

Mayuzumi: 7k viewers
Elira: 2.4k viewers
Chigusa: 1.03K viewers

The rest are <1k

A few days ago, HoloJP and ID also did a gartic collab. Was there really a big boost if you mix branches together?

>>7097553
I don't watch Rushia so idk what the fuck she's doing, I just explain what's up in Nijisanji and Holostars

>>7098164
Matyuzumi was at 9.8k at peak though
And Elira was 2.9k (but her stream was lagging a lot so she kept losing viewers)

olympicswwww

>>7098156
over a week tho. her aniversary alone got 31k in fact. so yeah those 30k are just Rushias usual streams

>>7098164
Speaking of giant collabs, what the fuck happened to this? I heard it was a shitshow but surely the numbers couldn't be that bad.

>>7098308
>fps_shaka
What happened?

>>7098308
How do we save the olympics?

Peak viewers for today's streams from newbies.

>>7098320
>what the fuck happened to this
Everything bad that can happen to a big collab
>inept host
>unmotivated guests (sleepy Pikamee, wise Nyanners keeping to herself to distance from the trainwreck)
>technical dificulties
>host playing DMCA'd music
Think the first few minutes of today's Haachama stream and make it the whole stream

>>7098308
> 30k on Kanata
What happened? Did she give her blue axolotl to Haachama?

>>7098425
Oh wow.
Well now I understand why Cover is so cagey when it comes to external collabs

>>7098320
The organizer of collab didn't know that using dmca songs in levels might be bad for those who stream from youtube. Here's a result.

>>7098164
HoloGartic was successful to say the least. Even though the views are funneled into one channel. they made 10k+ people watching 7 vtubers that usually can't break past 10k on a normal stream aside from Fubuki. So, the next questions is is Gartic collabs better from one PoV? imo Gartic is better to watch on one stream where you can engage with fans from other vtubers than caged in your oshi's chat.

>>7098320
Numbers are <3K or <4K for the top chuubas. I don't remember. The numbers gets posted on other threads.

>>7098425
You forgot to mention:
One of them kept bringing up Pomus surgery which made her uncomfortable.
Veibae being herself made Pika uncomfortable.
Host forgot to invite some of the members to the room and played a round without them

>>7098462
collab with Miko, Haato and a few others. doing some stuff with Mikos school she is building

>>7098462
Basically a collab in one screen, so Kanata got buff'd pretty hard. Then she directed everyone over to Haachama's Cooking stream hence why she managed to get 50k.

King doesn't stream today?

>>7098465
Look, I definitely support the girls being able to collab with more external groups if it makes them happier and it makes for more interesting streams but....yea.
That stream is a case-study of how to fuck up a collab across multiple companies + indies. I suspect this is going to make future collabs with V.Shoujo for the EN girls a bit trickier if they aren't 1 on 1 collabs.

quite a lot

>>7098645
>ants

>>7098146
Once the resource server restarts, she going to do a special stream. It will be funny af. I dunno about the numbers

>>7098645
Ago maro readings always get a lot.

https://panora.tokyo/archives/30456
Weekly VOD numbers. It's a very Niji week, with one (arguably badly timed) Kizuna Ai meme video.

Anya no longer cares, does she?

The potential for "tsundere loli-hime" on her design is off the charts and she has a personality to match.
But she lacks the foresign, the work discipline and the drive to make it work.

>>7098706
>It will be funny af.
its going to be great. some of her best work (mesaroad, fishfarm) will be just gone. maybe we will even get Rushia levels of rage

>>7098585
Kyuuketsu is resting his throat today.

>>7098816
You’re wrong anon, she never cared.
ID has so low standards that she’s actually a top ID vtuber if you take the whole scene into account.

>>7098848
Wait. This stuff was on the resource server?!
IS SHE AN IDIO......oh nvm
Nene you massive goof.
It's gonna be Ragekino

>>7098645
>playing game
15k
>collab
Below 15k
>doing nothing
25k

>>7098373
Graduate the olympics and have a special graduation stream to get HUGE numbers

>>7098816
That's actually on the better side of her usual numbers. And she's still doing better than all of NijiID and Maha5 so why should she care?

>>7097815
People want to see Nene finish her ice road.

>>7098525
>>7098564
Cool, school RP sounds fun.

>>7098943
That reminds me of some indog got mad about HoloID not being relevant in Indonesia (cause they speak English) and how Maha5 were what locals wanted but checking their Twitter and Facebook I never saw mentions of sponsorships or partnerships. Just merch announcements.

>>7098943
That's pretty depressing. At this point, the only relevant chuubas in the ID scene are Moona and Ollie with Reine being a distant 3rd. Being tagged as ID is probably the 2nd biggest debuff as a Chuuba above only IN.

>>7099107
ID vtubers as a whole doesn't really get sponsorships. The clout isn't really there yet. Even the stuff that HoloID got is mostly trickled down from the JP side, and things like world of tanks who throw money any streamer who can hold a few hundred pairs of eyeballs for an hour

>>7099221
NijiID semi recently got a collab with a phone company, not sure how it affected them.

>>7098766
>It's a very Niji week, with one (arguably badly timed) Kizuna Ai meme video.
Yeah, Kizuna can't catch a break.
>pic related

>>7099221
there was that one weird indonesian show that got Moona as a guest and had some girl cosplay as pekora

>>7099221
NijiID is of course way below holoID in viewers and stuff, but they still get lots of merch and local sponsorships and shit

>>7099322
That's AFA, and that's an anime convention. Not really a sponsorship.

>>7099349
Speaking of which apparently Zea is a regular guest on this radio show/podcast thing they are doing.
https://youtu.be/L30VFAdelB8

>>7099202
>Being tagged as ID is probably the 2nd biggest debuff as a Chuuba above only IN.
Yeah but >>7098943 is correct, Anya is performing on Hana Macchia levels
https://playboard.co/en/video/4P_55lAKuX8
so I understand Anya needs to do nothing else to be a successful and top of her country
>BUT THE POTENTIAL

There are countless anime and hentai whose main (or main supporting) female character is just Anya and she's failing to capitalize on her design
>pic related
Anya is pretty much this character of "killing slimes for 300 years" and countless others, she just don't know how to cash in on it

>>7099202
You know Reine and Ollie are looking at IRyS and thinking how much better they'd be doing if they were EN girls.

>>7099502
This is pretty much a hobby for Reine, she’s already rich anyways.
Ollie isn’t a singer, also the only reason she can do what she does is because Cover doesn’t give as much of a shit about the ID branch, minimal supervision.

>>7099483
The problem is that it takes a specific personality to play into the loli character and Anya... just isn't it. She also really really wishes she was Japanese and speaks Japanese all the time. Even in this current stream she's speaking about 50% japanese.
Honestly if she had debuted as an EN instead of an ID she'd probably be in the same place as Pomu on this board. As it is she's just mostly... there.

>>7099502
>Ollie
Nah, she'll beat Moona to 1M, and all of gen5 bar Botan (unless something change) and everyone in front of her right now bar Botan and Kanata

>>7097815
aaand she got zenlos. rip her first elytra but hello SC

>>7099611
>aaand she got zenlos. rip her first elytra but hello SC
HAHAHAHA, hello clips!

>>7099483
>>7099502
If they really want a success in ID, they need to be the Coco of ID. A literal coco, make skits, shows, interact with EN and ID groups a whole lot and just be plain creative to gets eyes on you. At the moment, there really isn't any leader like in ID, but for ID3, Just Ame's format on reviewing the cultures or ghost stories in ID would have propelled the whole ID vtuber scene as a whole. Even more so, if they can get JP or EN as guest members. I really hope Cover gets someone with as much leadership skills than their talent side. It's okay to start off 1-2k views, just be interesting, promote and grind the shit out of that show like a squirrel in November.

>>7099107
Hmm all id got a lot sponsorship from various weeb event. For gaming sponsorship, Maha5 usually got from Mobage. And niji id got wider sponsorship like from CSP and Phone aside from gaming.

>>7099597
>and all of gen5 bar Botan
This is pretty shocking. I know Ollie had a massive debut, and a recent string of huge buffs. But I still would never have expected an ID chuuba to beat one of the mainline branches to 1M. Except Aki or Mel.

>>7099777
Truth be told I never ever EVER EVER thought any ID would beat Moona to 1M. When anon pointed that out I had to triple check the estimaes because it blindsided me

>>7099597
Actually looking at this more, I never realised how big the IDs had got. Moona is on track to beat Mio. Isn't that wild?

>>7098308
Olympics is a whore

>>7099502
>>7099597
Ollie is basically an EN with the additional buff of being able to interact with JPs. She even already told indogs to fuck off.
https://youtu.be/WbyQaZZMDkM

>>7099976
Remember this time last year Fubuki had 700k subs and that was considered a really big achievement.
And then Nene hit that same milestone a few days ago and the reaction was just sort of "Eh, good job I guess"

>>7099340
NijiID is definitely above HoloID when it comes to securing sponsorships, official collab, and merch. Seriously, HoloID doesn't even have local donation or shop despite being here for 1 year, idk what they are doing with their ID tag

>>7099976
Mio wasn't that fast of a grower and her getting executed to apease the copyright gods didn't help her either.

>>7099777
It's because she's fully tapped into the EN boost with the way she streams and networks, see >>7100077

>>7100083
Kuzuha's 1M milestone would be a new novelty for Niji I guess. Other than that, there's really nothing. Even if he gets an algo boost from 1M, his clips aren't very EOP friendly like Gura, Korone or Fubuki. It doesn't boost other livers because he doesn't collab that often. Maybe Kanae would get a boost and reach 1M in the next year.

>>7098943
She's definitely not doing better than Hana even though she has more subs.

>>7100236
It doesn't really matter nowadays, we went from there being three one million subbed vtubers in the entire world to there being 25. One million subs has ceased to be an amazing achievement and just something that vtubers get as a matter of course.

Though, speaking of million, Kanata would probably do a one million endurance stream tomorrow or the day after.

>>7100143
>NijiID is definitely above HoloID when it comes to securing sponsorships, official collab
You can always back your words with numbers (preferably) or concrete examples backed with links from first party sources

>>7100236
Kanae made $90,000 in a day, subs don't matter: gachikois do.

>>7100277
she kind of is. not by much but checking playboard for both of them shows that Anya tends to have 2-3 k more vod views at the end and slightly better sc. dunno how good either do in streamlabs tho

>>7100277
She absolutely is, no matter what metric you use.

>>7100143
The same thing NijiKR is doing with their tag.

>>7100143
Because they don't care too much about the tag obviously, the direction of the branch is clear and its as part of the show that is main branch. the akibahara collab merchandise prove that.

>>7100431
> $90,000 in a day
How often does that happen? Daily? Weekly? Monthly?

>>7100431
On a special day anon
Niji gachikois only throw big SC on special events like birthdays, 3D debuts, etc.

>>7100507
>no matter what metric
Can't see superchats on your pic for some reason

>>7100507
Damn, none of the NijiID can compare with HoloID.

>>7100561
tops is anya bottom is hana. feel free to check yourself if you don't believe
what we don't know is how good either do on streamlabs tho

>>7100561
Only cause my screen isn't big enough, you happy now?

>>7100561
>>7100643
wrong picture

>>7100431
Well yeah, if two of the most popular liver gets to 1M, it'll be a huge achievement. They'd probably do a 3D grand celebration for kuzuha and kanae to milk $100k from them. But after that, they'd fall back to normal again. It would take the others ages to get to 1M. They don't have the same 3D debut buff like they used to and would fall back with merch for a decent salary throughout the year. It's still okay for them though, I just wonder what would happen to JOP vtuber fans if JP 6 were to have the same growth as IRyS and get to 1M faster than other livers aside from Kuzuha and Kanae.

Would their opinion change and think that Hololive was right to pander to Overseas instead of chinese? If so, Coco was a godsend.

Why do holos keep playing that Shin-chan game and that Pokemon game when they're clearly debuffs?

>>7100525
Well just he just got quite a lot of aka for his solo stream that's right after Kanaeboshi, despite the viewership only being half of his previous stream. So it is something

>>7100777
Because they like it, and it's not that big of a debuff. Wait till they start grinding Crystar on stream

>>7100777
Girls just wanna have fun

>>7100807
So? He always gets SC spam when he talks about things, today he was mentioning his concert coming up. What point are you trying to make here?

>>7100777
because they like it

>>7100670
Better now

>>7100363
>One million subs has ceased to be an amazing achievement and just something that vtubers get as a matter of course.
It's less VTubers and more Holos that are the matter of course. But you are right that not many will be impressed when a Niji gets it because they're just trailing behind Hololive.

>>7097333
No

>>7100731
How would they get that impression from JP 6? Are they considered an EOP pandering generation?

>>7099696
Yeah, all they need is one person determined enough to bring ID into the world. Reine could be the one to do it since her motive is more towards building her irl character up through streaming and not for money/views.

>>7101155
>and not for money
I've heard Reine is a local real life hime, any actionable evidence to back that rrat?

>>7101425
just how quick a ID doxxnigger got got and how quite he went after mentioning something about her

>>7101425
Anon, check the archives. Indogs don't dare mess with her.

>>7101425
ID doxxfags are scared of her. Her family has a lot of political connections supposedly.

>>7100988
>>7100840
>>7100812
Play it in your own god damn time then, and stream something people want to see peko!

>>7101659
10k people were tuning into Fubuki's pokemon unite stream, it's not really a debuff.

>>7101659
>Play it in your own god damn time then, and stream something people want to see
Anon, plz. Watch this clip of Botan playing TABS for the 151 time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1npbCG-gEw
and tell me you don't want her to play this 173 times more just for the delicious giggles of satisfaction

For Botan giggles I would renounce numberfaggotry

>>7100077
Lmao, based Ollie.

>>7101151
>Are they considered an EOP pandering generation
Nah, it'll only serve to push more of the narrative towards JOPs that Hololive is the go-to ticket to get instant fame globally if they ever did reach IRyS's level of fame and 1M subs in a year.

I'm not sure if this deserves it's own thread so I'll just ask it here:

Say you're running a vtuber group and you've released about 5 gens already, would you prefer if the most successful generation was Gen 1 with everyone else lagging behind or the top performing gen being one of the later ones like 4 or 5? I was wondering if an owner should be worried if his group doesn't see growth with consecutive generations?

https://youtu.be/PkcL6eGxfYY
professor is reading a book to lull you to sleep

>>7100077
Ollie must have picked up some 200k /pol/ subs from that clip alone

>>7101887
Obviously the later gens performing better is preferable, because that means your market is actively growing and you aren't on the declining side of an audience curve.

>>7101927
I think you're lost

>>7101927
fuck i posted in the wrong thread please ignore

>>7101976
You know you can just delete your post right newfag?

>>7101887
>would you prefer if the most successful generation was Gen 1 with everyone else lagging behind or the top performing gen being one of the later ones like 4 or 5?
I'll rephrase that question in terms most people could relate

>If you are Microsoft would you rather WIndows XP be your all time best seller with WIndows Vista, 7, 8, 10 and 11 lagging or you would rather each new product to beat the older ones

>>7101927
malechad's a numberfag AND a newfag..................

Anyone have any guesses on unique users that the hololive fanbase has? This mean that the users subscribing to more than one of the members just count as one. How big is hololive actually if we do this.

>>7101927
This guy looks like a complete gamble that backfired, doesn't have much about him, seems like a nice guy though.

>>7102084
Then just use peak performers' number for your scaling.
Gura for subs.
Coco for SC and live viewership.
Hololive Ch for VODs.

>>7102107
Eh, for a niji he's doing fine.
Actually for any metric he's doing fine. He's pulling four digits on a gimmick stream. The selejo girls would kill to have his performance.

>>7102107
I know Hololive numbers have rotted your brain but 5.2k for a book reading stream at 2am JST is great.

>>7101425
Atiek Nur Wahyuni

>>7102018
>If you are Microsoft would you rather WIndows XP be your all time best seller with WIndows Vista, 7, 8, 10 and 11 lagging or you would rather each new product to beat the older ones
That's even worse. Truthfully, it better you'd get a balanced gen in all of them with one of them being the popular one.
>Gen 0 has Suisei, Miko and probably RBC
>Gen 1 has haachama and FBK. Top tier meme lords and master of entertainment
>Gen 2 has the tomboy gf, the retarded gamer and the cute giggle oni
>Gen 3 has the top female vtuber, top zatsudan & singer and a female money maker
>Gen 4 had the top superchats earner, a creator and leader of the gen
>Gen 5 has the FPS lion as the leader
>EN has the shark and reaper rapper
>ID has 2 of the greatest singers, an extrovert alien and zombie and a laid back streamer

Hololive's scouting division deserves an SSS rank on how they recruit people

>>7102272
I'm interested in seeing how the new Niji wave perform together in their first collab. Selejo's chemistry is... not the best, especially when compared to their direct peers in holo gen 5.

>>7102199
>>7102182
He's still riding the debut buff, I'll quote these posts in a months time.

>>7102272
Eh, they get some gems for sure but I think people are a bit too quick to ignore the plain janes when talking about their scouting.

>>7102411
Son the selejo girls had a debut buff too and even back then they were barely breaking past 2k. The fact that he can get 5k+ on a book reading stream at 2 in the morning is amazing.

>>7102377
i mean, gen 5 is a pretty unfair comparison, they're the most tightly knit group even within hololive.

>>7102411
No need to grudgepost me, because he definitely will lose viewers, but calling him a backfire when they have JP males who can't average above 500 live views is delusional.

Why do you keep bringing the Selejo girls up? They're irrelevant, This is the first new JP batch in a year and Nijisanji has become more male dominant than ever.

>>7096879
Lamy wife!

>>7102501
Because they are the last debut wave and pretty much the benchmark for flops as far as NijiJP goes.

>>7101887
>>7101973
That's the wrong question to ask. I mean, it is fundamentally flawed in the assumption that either one being more successful is better than the other when such things don't necessarily apply that way in the entertainment industry. A G1 could simply be so good that they always stay ahead of G5. On the other hand, succeeding generations growing at a faster rate means that the overall audience has grown.

In reality, the only thing that you would look at is the MoM/YoY growth that the individuals/group scores and measure it against your own standards for success to determined if they are growing the way that you expect them to. Remember back when there was the arbitrary "rule" that you would get your 3D at 100k subs and then Holos started getting 100k subs day one? Or how about that 1M milestone?

Ultimately +% growth is better than -% growth and the data is easy to obtain and understand, so looking at it as a form of either/or is only going to lead to your making missteps and potentially hinder you in the long term.

>>7102084
It really depends what constitutes an user for you. On one end of the spectrum you have people who watch hololive streams everyday, follow tweets, derivative content, engage with the community and so on, while on the other there are people who maybe take some time each week and browse some clips for fun, maybe occasionally a stream. Though there's no reliable way to measure that number regardless of where you draw the line.

>>7102501
If Eden has better chemistry than Selejo then it shows that Nijisanji has also improved in that aspect when it comes to recruiting for a wave.

>>7102411
You can compare it directly to Polka's late night reading stream.

>>7102422
No scout will have a 100% homerun rate. But when even a "plain Jane" like Kiara is generating well over a million in revenue in her first year while still finding stellar talents in each generation... What more do you want, exactly?

>>7102641
Don't know bout that. They have 2 apex autists, 1 female, 1 shitposter and 1 that feels like he's going to be BFE material. I don't know if they could copy Hololive's model in becoming a family. It doesn't work out for selejo either.

>>7102422
It's impossible to not get 'duds' in a large entertainment group. But the things is, the gems more than make up for it and the rate at which they get them is fairly high especially for a small indie company that isn't even 10 years old.

>>7102766
They're having a collab soon so lets see. So far, each one can be found in each others chats as well as mentioning them on stream and playing games with them offline and they only just debuted. Seems to me Anycolor is letting them mingle before debuting like they did with NijiEN to avoid awkwardness.

>>7102766
The Selejo girls were definitely pushed as a unit more than Eden was. Other than the two apex lads they don't really have much of a theme or even really interact that much with each other.
The issue with the Selejo girls is that they were doing this as a hobby, not as a professional job, so each of them have differing levels of commitment to it. On the one hand you have Chihiro and Hisui who stream four-six times a week, and then on the other hand you have Kohaku who basically never streams. This is murder on any group cohesion they are trying to push.

>>7102250
>not clicking it

>>7102915
It's like setting standards (like Cover asking applicants to be able to stream at least three times weekly) is ultimately more beneficial to the growth of an organization and not having them and giving people free reign could lead to some parts of said organization to severely fall behind.

>>7096879
We are witnessing The Great Nijisanji Takeover. Man have always dominated streaming numbers. It's about time the vtuber industry ran the course. Nature is healing.

So this guy get 28k solo when only have 400k sub, is he niji's secret boss?

>>7103447

>>7103431
>>7103447
Try harder next time

>>7103447
How fucking new

>>7103447

Do you know that Katou Junichi, 'Jun channel', the absolute king of CCV >>7098308 only has 900k subs?

>>7104180
Also a huge normie who has the "we hate V-Tubers" crowd with him.
the Japanese xQc.

>>7104180
加藤 純一最強 ! 加藤 純一最強 ! 加藤 純一最強 !

>>7104303
>xQc
Wait, when did he gave a hint to hate vtubers?

>>7104180
Why does he share a second name with Kuzuha? Are they brothers?

>>7104303
Does he also hate vTubers or just the crowd that follows him? Has he said anything about why?

>>7098385
>From 70k to 30k
So Leo will be the Irys of Niji in a sense of having a meteoric recline?
I though the jp saviorfags will invest more on Leo's coin but I guess that was wrong.

>>7105133
>will be the Irys of Niji
So, they "EN-AZKI"? Because that's what IRyS was hire to be

>>7104180
Still lose to top western streamers

>>7098514
>Veibae being herself made Pika uncomfortable
>Veibae
And her cuck fans alway say how she is much better than holos when she made Pika uncomfortable.

>>7105133
JP saviorfags can't do anything but spam buy his VP/stand but you have to be touched in the head to think any vtuber in the entire world would hold their debut numbers.

>>7105133
well technically you can say that the other 4 of his wave reclined way faster than himself

>>7105133
Leo manage to keep those for his zatsu but Lauran went from 34k apex to 20k
so he is in a real dive

>>7105302
what did veibae do anyways?

>>7105368
Anon, his first stream post debut peaked at 70k and mantained around 30k people for around 7 hours. He even trended on jp social media for his first stream post debut, something his genmates couldn't achive.
But now, even the generic apex players of his gen catch up to him.

>>7098385
What site is this from?

>>7098385
Lauren's numbers confuse me, 6k -> 21k

>>7105399
>Supposed good player
>Potato PC
>The black dragon of Obsydia mogs him
That fella had it coming, in special by pandering to Apex autists

>>7102766
They all talk about each other a lot, I don’t think there’s been a single stream in which someone didn’t mention another’s name

>>7105598
Japan loves apex, I don't know what to tell you. Now that his wins in all those FPS tournaments are circling to the wider public people are checking him out.
As for Leos I wouldn't call it a "meteoric recline" if you're losing viewers who would never have watched the stream anyway aka tourists/onlookers from debut and trending. It's like calling a liver who had a 3D debut a week ago "declining" because they got 70k the other day and are back to their usual 2k today.
Same for Irys but I don't watch her so feel free to post her numbers. She's a singing holo, why does she play shitpex

>>7106007
Look at Suisei's numbers next to AZKi's and you'll find your answer for why they made IRyS stream Apex instead of just locking her in a studio.

>>7100376
Not that anon but here for you. Its tagged as spam so i post it as pict

>>7106007
Japan also loves shitting on Apex players who aren't perfect, when they claim to be good at it.
It's a double edged sword.

>>7106290
I read it all and I can’t genuinely point to anything there that would be paying either of them money instead of just not charging them for the privilege of being there

>>7106330
He's already being shit on for daring to utter a single negative thing about maintaining kayfabe, he'll be fine
>>7106385
The question is how many sponsorships, not how useful they are.

>>7106414
what'd he say

>>7106490
He didn’t even say anything like that, I think anon is just google translating 5ch matomes

>>7104303
Lies. Jun-chan is a closeted Coco fan. The only vtubers he hates are from Nijisanji and his fans know this.

>>7106572
nice, just what this edition of the thread was missing

>>7106598
Was he the guy who was like Ah that's K**N when looking at Coco on the top chart?

>>7106414
>sponsorships
Sponsorship implies getting paid

>>7100431

This. All the numberfags totally miss the point that the only number that matters is superchat $.

Every single vtuber would rather have 1000 viewers who give aka supers, rather than 20,000 viewers who do fuck all but type "kusa" in chat.

>But my oshi is inclining hard

If they're not making the money, get rekt. One day you'll see someone snap like that one Twitch thot and yell at their fans for being poorfags who cant even donate 5 bucks.

>>7107028
>the only number that matters is superchat $.
And ad revenue, and merch sales.

>>7096879
whats the appeal of vtubers bros?

>>7107072
And sponsorship check figures, and all the other numbers that indicate popularity because they lead to sponsorships.

>>7106385
>>7106811
Yeah if they hosting 8 hours event without getting any paycheck then they're beyond help, they should quit vtuber and learn some basic math for god sake. Same case with become free guest at some university weeb event in their birthday, if i am that guy i'll prefer to make thumbnail for birthday stream and let the donation money rain.

>>7106007
utaite are all over apex though. 96neko, amatsuki, soraru, mabodofu, mafumafu.. at least 2 of those are predators too.

>>7102250
>bird is a glownigger
disgusting, faggot yagoo only hired her for that reason how sad

>>7107301
I'm aware, amatsuki recently joined Crazy Raccoon too.

Ina is doing pretty good again.

>>7106811
>>7106414
>i-it doesn't count
holobronies are pathetic

>>7107895
I never said it doesn't count anon-chama

>>7107895
Rent free

>>7107028
Top 15 Holos could earn as much as that in two months without a birthday boost. So rather than talk about how much a vtuber could earn in a day, I have yet to see a site that could display a vtuber's earning in a year. The ones that I know that are going totally hard is Lamy who might reach $1M in superchats earning when she reaches her one year anni in August and Mori who could totally reach $1M too by her anniversary. The only queen is Coco getting less than $3M in 2 years. When you put those achievements side by side with Kuzuha and Kanae, it would look way less impressive since both of them debuted 3 years ago.

>>7107956
Playboard can sort by yearly superchats

>>7106656
Yeah, although it's not like it's a secret to anyone.

>>7107956
If they're getting that much in just SC, imagine merch sales and sponsorships. I wouldn't doubt the top earners in Nijisanji/Hololive are already or close to being millionaires after all the cuts.

>>7107956
litteraly just do this on playboard

>>7107989
Oh, it doesn't work for me when I put it in the vtuber section. It works when I put it on all. Hmm, doesn't seem to be as accurate considering that both Mori and Lamy is below 500k as displayed there when their total is above 880k. Did it count from the start of the year or something?

>>7108302
We're never going to know the answer to that. But Chronoir must be living comfortably outside of SC considering the Niji website explodes every time they drop merch.

>>7108394
It counts from the start of the year, not the part twelve months sadly. Playboard is kind shitty for our purposes when you get down to it.

>>7108302
Merchwise, both of them are selling quite good in Japan. Niji has an upper hand with all the marketing schemes and cheap mass produced goods/voice packs that they've done throughout the year. Hololive iirc does premium goods I think. The only one I could think off right now is honestly Pekora's and Lamy's sake and probably all those boobie mousepads. They don't release monthly voice packs, acrylic stands, pens, folders or daily stuff plastered with their livers face like niji has. Don't take my word for it, I'm in bed right now and I could only think of those. Holo and Niji can do both too.

>anons defending doing it for free
Sorry anons, Hololive girls only work for money

>>7107028

Seems like Lain is going to beat Leos in subs

>>7105133
If Leos shtick is going to be playing retro games like Korone then he obviously won't get very amazing numbers. 25k on a 30+ years old is pretty good.

>>7110086
Lain 172K vs Leos 175k. Womansanji...

>>7110051
Whose chart is that? I really doubt most top superchated holos would have charts like that.

>>7098848
what site is used to track this stuff?

>>7110467
Hal. But still, ad rev could be the larger part of their income. Does YT provide how many cents per thousand view a video make?

>>7108987
Holo has a deal with companies like tsukomo, gachapon, family mart and lawson and Atre. That is where you can buy the cheap stuff. There's even magazines that are selling tie-in merch for them like the one for gen 5. Good Smile is a thing too.

So who is this red head chick? she seems boring but getting 12k views at 6 am is very impressive

>>7110758
We had this kind of discussion before. As far as views vs SCs, only people like Gura and Pekora can ultimately get equal earnings from SCs and Ads because they get so much VOD views. Kiara and Rushia on the other hand gets more from SCs because people wants the live interactions rather than just watching them for entertainment. Musical holos gets more profit from Ads if their original music is a hit like Suisei and Mori

>>7111004
Lain Peterson from the newest wave of Nijisanji JP, it literally says on her channel even in English for you

>>7111025
>Musical holos gets more profit from Ads if their original music is a hit like Suisei and Mori
Suisei gets enough total views to surpass an average music video with just a handful of streams. There's no way ads from her music uploads are a significant source of income.

>>7111124
I meant her roomate, there's no way a noname boring girl still this popular after the debut buff

"Debut buff" only lasts for 5 streams if Irys is anything to go by. Lain is managing to hold her viewers well.

>>7110093
the problem is not the old games itself but this one was just fucking stupid. he put speed to x3, cheesed the game by spamming lightpunch and infinity continues, since th arcade evrsion put you exactly where you died and doesnt return you to the begginign of the level, while also pretending to be tired from such button spam for a show. so any kind of sense of accomplishment or appreciation of the game gets thrown out the window which is a total 180 form his GnG one.

>>7111324
No one knows retard

>>7111324
She is totally REOL, trust me on this one.

>>7111326
her engagement and view keep falling with each stream, these guys are no where near on their normal numbers yet.
Irys is a special case since she is a alone debut rather than a complete gen so her buff last less.

>>7111256
She has more than 30M views with her originals, i'd say that's significant.

>>7111335
Would his views tank from this mistake though or would they forgive him?

>>7111326
Don't think it'd be a fair comparison between the two. IRyS debuts as an EN VSinger. She streams for the sake of streaming and building a fanbase. She could play any debuff games cause her focus or primary revenue is elsewhere like Suisei. Wait till JP 6 hits.

>>7111324
Is this the "lain is aloe" rrat in disguise?

>>7111516
Leos will be a 10k+ liver. He might not be the only one. Lain will at least be above any female released in 2020 save for Furen.

>>7111576
Based on the fact he only got 88 dislikes I'm not sure anyone is considering this a mistake other than numberfags

>>7111576
is not so much his views making an opinion, is just a far less interesting stream.
is like if korone did x3 speed on metalslug3

>>7111256
Anon, Hal said that content uploads generate the vast majority of revenue compared even to VODs. YouTube will pack those MVs with 2-4 ads and you will like it.

>>7111576
She's streaming as much as anyone. The Vsinger thing doesn't mean anything, specially considering she's not being very successful with her songs.

>>7112050
she has less than 30hrs of stream in 2 weeks.

>>7112080
More than a lot of holos

>>7112022
She only puts 1 in the beginning. 55% of her 119M views came from Music alone.

>>7112050
>she's not being very successful with her songs.
>her EP topped charts in 5 countries and was top 10 in most large markets

>>7112179
hehe
>>7112022
>>7112198
you people need to rememebr that addsens is dynamic. if youtube algorithm likes her music videos then the adds she gets will be ones that pay more than lets say niji ads or other indie adds that sometimes appear on streams

>>7112050
She's not a numberfag. She just pops them out with no premieres. She just does them because she likes them. Her EP has been successful and she gets stable SC along with decent viewership.

>>7112289
Sure. But I clicked on the MVs and they only had ads in the beginning

>>7112325
Anon, she hasn't existed long enough to make it possible to call anything about her stable.

>>7112431
What I mean by that is that her SC has mean a min of $1k for 2 weeks except when she did a guerrilla stream.

>>7112205
>>7112325
>iTunes cope
No one uses that shit anymore lol. Her songs get shit views on youtube.

IRyS stream times are pretty dogshit, I don't know how bad it is for US, But it's usually impossible for EU to watch her.

>>7112744
It's impossible for EU to watch any streams that aren't Ina, Flare and watame, and occasionally Kiara if she decides to do an EU stream today. Considering irys lives in Japan I don't see this changing anytime soon.

>>7112410
It depends on a lot of factors including your country. I usually get an ad either at the beginning or at the end plus a pop up in the middle.

Selene at 4.1k playing Apex. Maybe she should play it more often I guess.

>>7113052
Could be more if she was streaming in JP friendly times.

>>7113052
She'll incline pretty hard if she keeps this up.
But she might end up like the 1 game/singer streamers who het double+ the viewers for their main game/series.

>>7113397
that's literally what she is already.

>>7113506
Ok, let me put it in numbers.
She could average 2-3k for normal streams and 10k for Apex compared to now.

>>7098120
>The black guy from Niji got like 25k playing minecraft and he's probably way more irrelevant than Nene.
LMAO Ibrahim is getting 25k playing minecraft the past 2 weeks because he's building something the size of the deathstar block by block by himself. He's getting 3x his normal numbers not only because of minecraft, but because of what he's doing. An MC buffed Nene is like 10k, 15k is an overperformance. Nene and Ib are around the same level of relevance.

>>7114011
>He's getting 3x his normal numbers not only because of minecraft, but because of what he's doing.
> but because of what he's doing.
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK

>>7112742
But an irrelevant chart of Billboard is, chumpedo?

>>7113300
She would get a lot of hate from japs for such playstyle and attitude

>>7114434
How bad is her playstyle actually?

She's hitting 5k now, but she really deserves more than shitters like Ame or Irys. I'm not satisfied yet.

how do we save axia

>>7114907
Make him stop mentioning his staff-assigned boytoy every 5 minutes, this is not ChroNoir channel.

>>7114816
Very aggressive playstyle but it's against low tiers, JPs might love it.
She does run her mouth all the time though, which i don't see any JP Apex players do, but it's really fun and informative.

>>7114816
she leaves her team far far behind

>>7114907
Fix his computer and mouse before the Apex crowd make him a target.

>>7114978
and you're watching a male talk about another male because...?

>>7115034
Because he's cute and his mouth is supremely fuckable? At the same time, I need to make sure what every relevant Niji is talking about in their streams to assess their numbers

>>7115252
>Because he's cute and his mouth is supremely fuckable
holy based. carry on, colleague.

Womansanji...

>>7115612
her main audience are bored holotourists
once gen6 comes out she will fall off hard

Lain's laugh sounds fake as fuck.

>>7115733
Which one? She has a fake giggle like Tomoe, and a fake honk like Twap.

>>7115859
I can't tell if any of them are genuine that's for sure.

HoloEN streaming hours for this month. 7/1 - 7/25
>Kiara 76.7
>Ame 67.4
>Mori 39.6
>Gura 38.6
>IRyS 28

I wonder how many streaming hours NijiEN have

>>7115733
>>7115859
>>7115893
Numbers?

>>7104303
>>7104979
>>7105092
Xqc doesnt hate vtubers and from I understanding Jun doesnt hate them either, him and his chat dislike that the girls werent sd popular before coming vtubers and they dont like paypigs, basically not liking twitch simps, that donate their whole bank accounts to women they dont know

>>7116536
Is there a compilation for all those Nijisanji numberfag bots on Twitter? I know there's a subscriber gained one, spanner message one, max views/chat number one, etc
Would be helpful for compiling information as EN starts to be added to some of them.

>>7117860
does xqc even acknowledge vtubers at all?

>>7116536
Watame doesn't have a life does she?

>>7117860
>Jun doesnt hate them either
He doesn’t like them

>>7117860
>>7118031
He said people who really like them are weirdos and most of the hot girl vtubers are actually just dudes with beards

>>7116536
Don't have the numbers for the full month but I was looking at my Elira backlog for the week and she has 34 hours just in the past week.

>>7118031
No but he commonly appeals to the chat hivemind of anime bad, he is a closet weeb, and has played shit like gal gun on stream

>>7118241
Source or bullshit

>>7118323
Facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF2J0mjlxmU

>>7118365
He baits weebs regularly, man started calling guilty gear shit despite never playing it. Thats a famous twitch move, say some controversial shit, chat argues and more donos come in. Fun for everyone except the people that take the bait

Can I just have a list of Niji numbers bots instead of this painfully off topic discussion.

>>7117970
you mean these two?
https://twitter.com/2434rankings
https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
its jp branch only. niji jop hates foreigners.

>>7118510
Still more interesting than this thread 90% of the time, “holy shit hololive beats nijisanji most of the time, but niji occasionally gets more views and have a couple strong players that beat out holomems this week”
Is every numberfagging thread, how do you not get tired of this?

>>7118668
This isn't the interesting discussion thread, this is the numberfagging thread. I just ignore the OH NO NO NO posting and post my damn numbers.
>>7118594
Thanks, I also recall one that posts a summary of subscribers gained in JP every day/week/month if you have that. I saw that EN was added to the spanner message search so I thought they'd be added to those other bots but alas.

>>7118241
>He said people who really like them are weirdos
Is he wrong?
>hot girl vtubers are actually just dudes with beards
Doubt it. The size of the scandal wouldn't be worth it and there are females lining up around the corner to get into any company.

Today's superchats

>>7118716
You don't have to convince me
His words, not mine

>no gains Botan
Try harder, silly cat.

>>7118852
kaida haru?

>>7118927
He reached 250k today

>>7118852
A lot of holo's usual figures missing today.

>>7118716
Its not a very astute observation, and the beard thing is objectively incorrect, i watch his yt vids, man calls every opinion a hot take

>>7102272
>gen 3 money milker

>>7118852
>Chihiro
She's a good earner? I thought she was a meme.

>>7107895
Theres a reason why top youtuber makes videos even if they got reds and yellows on it.

Comparing June and July. The holos have been streaming less this month except for a few like Kiara, Pekora, etc.
>HoloEN June, July
>Kiara 80.7, 76.7
>Ame 79.8, 67.4
>Ina 69.5, 45.8
>Gura 54.8, 38.6
>Mori 50.7, 39.6

>>7119364
I didn't watch the stream but based on the sueprchat messages/chat, she was upset over a private problem, so her fans sent support for that one stream. She isn't regularly on this ranking.

>>7097288
>kiara spoiled her entire outfit with the stupid farmhat.
I love the chicken but damn she is her own worst enemy.

>>7118241
Yep i watch my autistic male streamers and listen to their opinions about things while sitting in front of the computer for a whole day.

>>7119636
Its a beach outfit and its in fashion for a half century.

>>7118716
>Doubt it. The size of the scandal wouldn't be worth it and there are females lining up around the corner to get into any company
I remember there was a buzz about an indie vtuber with a female avatar but due a glitch of the vtuber program it was shown there was a fat dude behind the avatar.
It didn't affect his career at all, and now indies are more daring with dudes straight up using females avatars without any voice modifier at all, and of course the ones who use voice modifiers and are easy to spot.
Literally for anyone who follows the vtubing scenes outside their chuba the whole "there is a dude behind the hot anime girl" meme it actually turn real and is no longer a meme.

>>7098706
>Once the resource server restarts

why would they need to restart? Just have a new resource server and keep the old one as is.

>>7119888
it's shit, not even gura, the biggest farmfag out there, wanted a debuff outfit like that. Kiara barely had any art about her outfit and all of the were just some farmer outfit variations.

>>7118241
kek

>>7120152
It didn't affect his career because he was literally using a voice synthesizer and only the most deluded people who have been edging for 7 days straight would be convinced he's a woman. You have to be quite new to not know Nora cat's situation

>>7120279
Can't read moonrunes, what does this mean?

So, how is Irys doing with debute buff gone? Still relevant or falling into oblivion azki style?

>>7120773
Tier 1 subscriber for 2 months

>>7119364
She's the most superchatted Niji female in the all-time rankings, obviously she doesn't quite measure up to the top Holos but she does well for herself pretty consistently

Leos I kneel

>>7123386
Damn, Nijis put their shit out for super cheap compared to Hololive goods.

>>7119415
seems like a month of rest
june was full of collabs, events and a graduation.
Is spected to slow things down and august comng back harder.

>>7123830
When you're worthy you get pricier
https://shop.nijisanji.jp/s/niji/item/detail/SSZS-14852?ima=0630

>>7120279
I dont use twitch, xqc is subbed to migo?

>>7114982
>She does run her mouth all the time though, which i don't see any JP Apex players do
idk about that. she's kinda similar with kanon.
still too loud for me tho.

>>7110585
What stuff? Where something is build? I just watch streams so i have a general idea

https://youtu.be/S3IirzrSEhY
Looks like we are getting another million today.

>>7123386
a shame holos uses preorder system. it makes gauging a talent's merch popularity difficult, BOOTH likes is unreliable as niji have their own store in addition to BOOTH