/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

you nijidrones are negligible to nijisanji.
simple as.

>>71012760
This confirms Elira was supposed to be a surprise in the latest girls night off collab but the chickened out by the end.

NijiGODs we FUCKING WON

>>71012760
Who?

>>71013612
Elira Pendora, big titty dragon with a big futa cock

No shit, it's like you actually can defeat trolls by ignoring them and not giving attention. Crazy, I know.

>>71012760
She survived the attempt

>>71012997
this will never fail to make me laugh for some reason

>>71012760
"Ha ha, nijis won by doing nothing!"
... Yeah, that's literally what everyone was telling them to do, instead of making everything worse by talking.

>>71012760
What a pleasant, thriving family.
Now stop being a damn Vtweeter and start streaming again Elira.

>>71013761
Literally how Mori shook everyone off of her three years ago. I just wish the nijis learned this lesson early because Mori did it before any of them debuted.

>>71012760
Guess the party is over, I'll be back when they inevitably fuck up again

Isn't this the idiot who hosted the blackscreen video? Good luck to her, she has a lot of Anti's now.

>>71014981
How the fuck is she going to stream with that stain on her channel?
She can't unlist or private it either pretending like nothing happened without people saying anything

they're finally doing the thing everyone's been telling them to do (shut the fuck up) since the termination announcement? better late than never.

>>71014812
lmao, they still live rent free in her head 24/7

>>71012997
FPBP

>>71015164
The strategy is "pretend nothing happened and hope our fans are lobotomy patients".
Still waiting on that apology btw

>>71015284
they can't exactly do anything because last week was the contract leaks, maybe they'll do something this Monday? They're pretty retarded after all

>>71015409
>hope our fans are lobotomy patients
I don't think she has to hope for that, they very clearly are

>>71015284
Unless they keep conviniently scheduling their streams on top of Doki's

>>71015164
>How the fuck is she going to stream with that stain on her channel?
I don't know. Whether she is the bully or leader of the clique, as per what the Rrats say. Regardless, even if she is innocent, this incident has left a permanent mark on her career.

>>71012997
Out of everything that came out, this has to be the best thing. *sigh*

While Elira was gone supposedly Millie was organizing events.
In reality Millie is just the agent of Elira doing whatever Elira says.

Is this really winning? She's at 561k atm btw

>>71012760
DRAMAFAGS BTFO
ELIRA WAS JUST SLEEPING

>>71012760
>Won by doing nothing
I guess Elira losing over 100k+ subs and getting 0 income for a month from having no streams is winning now

>>71012760
>>71016549
Unless I hear her voice in a video or see her on stream, it's considered skinwalking. Nothingburger.

>>71016568
I mean, if all it takes for getting away with attempted murder is eating instant noodles for a month and a recoverable numer that's not bad, sadly.

Brothers, we lost. The sisters are too many in numbers for us to fight against them

>>71012760
Is her 1 month stealth suspension done?

>>71012760
*sigh*
Yikes!

>>71016373
>dead subs

oh nyoooo

>>71017099
How can dead subs unsubscribe you retard.

>>71016958
It wasn't even a suspension. She just decided not to stream. She tweeted during that time.
NijiEN doesn't even have a manager right now, they're running shit themselves.

>>71014812
Mori is literally the biggest numbernigger alive (pun intended)
She has her haters rent free in her head because she's insecure about every little thing

>>71012760
Sorry? What did she win? Did she get a playbutton? More than 2 percent on merch?

>>71016351
MILLIE IS THE MANAGER
ELIRA IS THE SOCKPUPPET & TRANSLATOR CONTROLLED BY MILLIE

>>71012760
sisters are getting desperate for even just a sliver “winning”

It's really disappointing seeing so many people supporting her after the black screen, but at least she will always have that stain, and it will haunt her forever.

>>71017633
SEAniggers are people?

>>71017712
Those people are barely even human.

>>71017712
>>71017818

>>71017712
>so many people
lol,lmao even

>>71017185
They sure weren't regular watchers lol

>>71012760
took them long enough to figure that out

>https://twitter.com/EliraPendora/status/1765995870842150985
>Hello Singapore!!!
LOL
LMAO
KEK

>>71018414
They unironically were

>>71018414
>day 1 membership fags left
>not regulars
>>71018425
>hello SEAsters
KEK

>>71017712
It's way too early to tell if she has support lol. It's xitter likes. The sisters will be mass liking her posts right now to "show the dokifags" and it's not a reliable metric.
We'll know how much real support she still has in a week or two after her return. My guess is we'll have a strong indication from her return stream, typically male gachis shower their oshi in supas when they return from a long absence so if she's not showered on her return it's a good sign a lot of her active fanbase has fucked off.

>>71018414
How can you even tell, it's not like she streamed lmao

>>71013612
cutest and sexiest dragon in the universe

>>71018640
I'd imagine any remaining non-Kool Aid'd Famelira who sends a superchat to her asking some variant of "why did you do it?", would get censored or banned anyway.

>>71018860
More like the biggest and dirtiest whore in the universe

What did they win?

>>71018860
Oh yeah let me just forgive all the evil shit she's done (real) because of her model (not real).
Yeah that makes a lot of sense.
By the way her model is not even that attractive as far as vtuber models go.

>>71012760
About time to make anons seethe since Elira will appear in both Petra and Rosemi's 3D. Clique wins.

>>71019106
SEAnigger fans

>>71012760
Well she cost the company a billion yen, must have been a typo.

>>71018640
I think you underestimate how subhuman the average vtuber fan is. These people are barely even conscious human beings. They don't care if Elira killed someone, she has free access to their wallet because....uhhh *autistic retard noises*.
We are not exactly dealing with the prime specimens of humanity here

>>71018414
No matter how you see it, you cant say that she's doing well after losing 100k+ subs and counting

>The replies to Elira are overwhelmingly positive and her fans are waiting for her comeback.
Nijiantis status? You guys said it's the end of her career.

>>71014280
They finally listened to the trolls who were telling them the only thing they should do, which was to shut up and lick up the bad attention like good little losers. Time fixes all after all.

>>71019353
She only lost about 50k subs

>>71019206
>Elira will appear in both Petra and Rosemi's 3D
That would be a PR disaster. More fuel to the fire I guess. I look forward to it.

>>71019405
yeah thanks to the hololive fans here for giving her that free advice. Probably saved Anycolor billions in stock price. That could have been a disaster for them. Riku thanks you personally. Anycolor deserves to succeed for bringing male vtubers into the market.

>>71012760
Won what? Their reputations are dead, it'll take literal years from them to regain the subs they lost, and Niji EN is completely fucked. They're trying to pretend like everything's fine in an attempt to fool people into thinking everything's fine but nobody's buying it.

>>71018414
Anon I'm one of those, you retard elira is the one I used to watch back thrn

I might sub if she says sorry to selen if that happens

>>71019353
>Rosemi loses 30k subs for no reason
>has identical CCV

It's a couple outspoken fags who will probably slink back in shame and tens of thousands of people who subbed to everyone once, stopped watching, and unsubbed when the drama blew up

>>71019451
There will be no disaster.

>>71019412
And
>All potential growth
>Fans
>Memberships
>Reputation
No biggy I guess

>>71012760
The only worse way she can ruin her career is naming the jew and saying nigger on stream.

>>71012997
LMAO

>En fans know
>normies know
>jps know
>artist who were treated like shit from the JP side are coming out with their stories
>JP labor unions are actually taking note so they can legally fuck them

None of this would have happened if the clique weren't so butthurt about their numbers being lower than Selens.

>>71019577
Don't use Rosemi as an example for NijiEN when her status is an exception. Fucking mental gymnastics. Enna got mogged by a piece of paper remember.

>>71019683
She will continue streaming and continue making 3-4x the average annual salary. Even if her income declined she still has a huge number of literal-retarded people throwing money at her.

>>71012760
Keep baiting these fucking crybaby retards

>>71013309
nah Enna got sick and it would have been uneven teams. It was 2 vs 2 vs 2, without Enna it messed up the plan

>>71019683
Hyte PC case collab too

>>71019683
Their fan art thumbnails have been shit tier, only Vivi decided to step up which is kind of cute.

>>71019713
Artists not doing fanart is unironically a big thing, with how it works in the vtuber world, its pretty much free marketing and community engagement that you cant get back

>>71019789
For like the next week maybe, Financial meeting coming up.

>>71015164
sure she can. people who watch her will be glad its gone, people that dont watch her wont know its gone. EZ. Most of the tourists and dramafaggots have fucked off by now, Doki doesn't even break 8k anymore and its dropping by the day. I'm sure Elira will be back soon now that the dust has settled.

>>71012760
>won by doing nothing
where? last time they got kicked from con lmao

>>71012760
Yeah anon i was with them. We had a threesome last night. Fucking millie is bad in bed. Elira's awesome.

>>71015409
nothing to apologize for, Selen is the one who should apologize for starting this mess by being a thin skinned menhera grifter

>>71019883
I would say gacha life is determined by the quality of the art community as well. Fan circles sharing good art is the back bone of CGDCT

>>71017243
Even tweets stopped when she used to tweet quite often, only recently doing the pokemon tweet.

>>71019451
Elira is bestie with Petra specially. You can't just stop Petra from inviting her.

>>71019883
Yeah I'm more interested in the Financial side and legal side with actual labor unions and legal people watching them like hawks now. Imagine if Japan passes some laws now regarding these type of contracts as a result of Elira's weird fucking pettiness.

>>71019985
Imagine the most autistic person you've ever met in your life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhKfIBEmdvA

This is the average vtuber fan.
They literally don't care if Elira killed someone, if she's guilty of something. They just want their talking png back to give them a pseudo-friend in their dark little life. They will not demand an apology, and they will continue throwing money for no good reason

>>71019985
Actual Cope. Also, why mention Doki? This has nothing to do with her. It's about Elira's career.

>>71020080
Are you the polarisdream1 retard? Same shit line lol

>>71017712
Lmao, what stain? Her based truth telling not letting the Fagoon bullies trample her? I rarely watched her before but now I'm going to member her

>>71020232
>truth telling
Nothing of substance was said in that stream. Vox lied that you can quit whenever you want and she lied about doxx information as those were sealed documents that they themselves leaked?

>>71020153
I know. I'm saying it would be a PR fuck up. Not trying to stop it. I welcome it.

>>71020232
Cool she'll appreciate the ARS

>>71019263
yeah, I mean its obvious how stupid the average troglodyte vtuber fan is. There are tons of them supporting a mentally ill suicide faking grifter with a voice like nails on the chalkboard

>>71020232
>never watched her
Average Nijinig lmao

>>71020079
Gacha is definetly a good example, that extra content of the characters does alot for the ip

>>71015164
How? Just stream like nothing happened. All the badged members want from her is to be back and stream. You underestimate parasocial fans. They will support her no matter what happen.

>>71019985
Look at thia faggot
There's no mention of doki but mention it here? Clearly still can't remove her in their brains lol good luck

>>71020183
I would gladly take 100 dead Selens in exchange for 1 happy Elira. There is literally nothing she could do that would make me stop watching her other than looking in the camera and saying "I hate everyone that watches me, go away forever. Literally."

Why do Nijisisters suffer from chronic Doki Derangement Syndrome? This is about Elira and how fucked her career is.

>>71020335
There will be a lot of jp tourists and mods anyway. If antis cause a commotion, it will be drowned out.

>>71020328
except he didnt? You can quit whenever you want. It's just a job. Like you can leave any job. If you break your contract you might incur penalty fees sure, big whoop. That's standard practice. You can't even switch phone carriers without a penalty fee, come on.

>>71019451
Damn, Petra doesn't deserve the chat spam that's gonna happen if Elira does show up, even if it draws eyes to her channel away from Holofes.
How corpo compromised are Pentomo mods? Enough to scour all the superchats for "problematic" questions aimed at Elira?

>>71020507
are you fucking stupid? its a good barometer of how many tourists and dramaniggers are still invested in this, nothing more or less. That's all I used it as.

>>71020720
You can quit but you're getting in queue lol how is that quiting? When you go the other way they condemn you like shit? Anon any labor union would get the company's ass for that

>>71020701
It's still a hassle to deal with and will take a mental toll on her. Not good for her career. This fact alone makes her radioactive to collab with.

>>71020602
Honestly, based

>>71020760
all she has to do is put it on like 'sub for 30 days' mode, a lot of the nijiEN girls have that type of thing on.

>>71019985
All the Doki streams went 8k+ with the last hour slowly going down.
Its not healthy to lie sister, I know you are assblasted that your Millie girls off collab got the same viewers as a Selen Apex stream lmao.

>>71020829
Then you're a faggot because you're still inviting them lol just move on already for christ's sake

>>71020701
Look at >>71020760

>>71020859
there is no queue. if you want to quit you simply stop showing up to work, like any other job, like if you worked at McDonalds. you might incur penalty fees for not finishing your contract, but you can still leave if you want. They dont have a gun to your head.

>>71020602
Maybe you don't realize how insane what you just said is.

>>71017391
>Did she get a playbutton?
if she wanted one, she would just pay for a copy... How much are they anyways? Maybe she does have a copy or just doesnt care about it as much as doki sisters do.

>>71019985
The fact Doki lives rent free will crush the Niji talents that can't get over her one day. There are so many benefits she is getting compared to them its not even funny. And no, I'm not talking about the clique, I'm talking about everyone else who sees there's no point staying in that shit hole if you have to suck up to people who should be your coworkers. Toxic as fuck.

>>71021158
>if she wanted one, she would just pay for a copy
nope, anycolor does not do this. You don't get a copy

>>71020760
Petra wants Elira to be there unless you tell her to stop being with the clique but I doubt she will listen.

>>71021026
But they don't let you graduate right off the bat right? Hell if I want to quit today I can leave right away but in niji that doesn't work

Hence why we have zaion's silencing contract which I can assure sure is fucking illegal on a labor union

>>71021158
lol, none of the talents are allowed to get a copy unless Nijisanji releases them. Black company's don't validate their workers achievements moron.

>>71021158
>retard doesn't even know the rules of his own oshi (Anycolor)

I like Millie, she deserves more love.

>>71019985
>Most of the tourists and dramafaggots have fucked off by now
They all left and subbed to Doki. Nothing of value was lost, negligible.

>>71021153
Nope. It's simple human nature. Would you rather your mom/wife/best friend/etc be happy and healthy at the cost of 100 dead strangers? I would. Most people would. I care about Elira, I dont give the slightest shit about Selen, she's a rando npc to me. Same thing.

>>71021026
Under the contracts they sign if they quit they need to be a substantial exit fee. It was revealed to be around 10,000 USD in their contract clause.

Now that I think more about it, regardless of what you think of Elira, she has become a liability—a drain on resources.

>>71021416
Millie is enjoying sex with Elira right now and is living her best life.

Wow, a tweet. Impressive.
Do a stream without restricting chat. I fucking dare you bitch.

>>71021427
Doki who's numbers have been plummeting, I can't wait for the cope when she finally dips below Selen numbers

>>71020602
I love how Nijisisters are so deranged that Poe's Law is in full effect.

>>71019998
>last time they got kicked from con lmao
because the host was afraid the psychopathic doki sisters would attack the talents and their fans.

>>71021158
I can assure you even the graduated ones talked about it they haven't got any of their playbuttons unlike the other company lol

>>71021594
Yeah I've already heard that one, sister. It never happened.

>>71021557
so are the holostars, and yet they still exist

>>71021002
Yeah Pentomos are good solid lads, they aint bootlickers.
Never forget the dead penguin.

>>71021594
>Nijikek delusions

/vt/ lost yet again...

>>71021207
The main problem isn't her living rent free from it, I agree that your analysis is correct, but the actual tangible consequences from the incident hits way harder than anything right now for Anycolor. Nijisanji EN has not appeared in any Western anime convention since the incident and all the Western sponsors dropped them. How can you sustain the branch and get the incentives and money members should get for merchandise and opportunities one would want when staying with the brand is like being blacklisted or having like a scarlet letter mark? SEA is the only avenue the company has at the moment and that won't sustain the branch.

>>71021594
>Doki Derangement Syndrome

>>71021621
More like they don't want to associate with the drama you're oshis are having kekw they don't want to do anything with a fuckin nijisanjiEN

>>71021581
She will.

>>71021564
I wish that was me replacing elira.

>>71021475
sure, if you don't finish your contract there's a fee, thats normal. but you CAN if you want. There's nothing stopping you.

>ndf seething

>>71021697
Look at this pathetic comment lol
At least they can do what they want unlike your oshis

>>71021686
what do you mean never happened? go from what 60k 40 30 20 15 10 9 now she's at about 7.9. It drops every day.

>>71021697
>Holostars Deflection
This isn't about homofags sister. Elira is fucked.

>>71021436
She's fake. The personality she's giving to you isn't real.

By the way, lmao nice oshi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISRI0ASFk3A

There are 1000 indies worth supporting and you're throwing your money at someone who makes more than you ever will. She doesn't even need superchats, she can live comfortably for the rest of her life on ad revenue alone. Her entire life is plush comfort, security, health and wellbeing. While you're just a retard who hurt himself with his autism.

>>71021664
did they say they couldnt buy a copy from youtube?

>>71020720
It's not a job and even if the contract is actually illegal in most of the civilized world Nijisanji would have/DID make her life hell for "breaching" it.
The notion that you can just quit is fucking retarded, stop trying to rewrite history pakisanji

>>71021890
it was in reply to a comment on a drain on company resources still being kept around, its a fair comparison

>>71021827
Grammar.

>>71021892
It was 25 degrees out yesterday. It was 20 today. According to this, it will be absolute zero in a year.

>>71021769
nope, my insider said the doki sisters sent threats.

>>71021977
So why haven't they seen it yet except their in japan? Even holoEN can brandish themselves in their own fuckin houses without any problems

>>71021921
pretty based of her desu

>>71021892
>retarded NDF cant even number
Lmao, I guess that's what happens when the Nijis she watch are all 3views.

>>71021921
Not that anon but I feel the same. Elira is just different that I can't replace her.

>>71022106
>did they say they couldnt buy a copy from youtube?
Can you answer the question without asking another question?

>>71022173
>giving your money to rich people
>getting nothing in return other than fake-validation

Elira is radioactive. Her career is screwed. She should take up a background role like a manager or something.

>>71022088
> Insider
You're blowing smoke anon, offkai already told niji they're not having them but anycoloro delayed any response till false did some shitposting

>>71022077
thats the worst analogy I've ever seen, temperatures fluctuate in an annual pattern, viewers do not

>>71022177
Speak English please.

>>71022196
I listened to her before, she's annoying as fuck.
>I can't replace her.
She isn't in your life and she never will be. You're just paycheck for her.

>>71022177
the fuck are you even talking about?

>>71021921
but Elira is hot, especial the new evil Elira pics that doki sisters made (they secretly jerk off to it).

>>71022221
Anon I'm asking you too why? Can't even respond properly
Even if they can buy they said they don't have it selen did say that and mysta too

>>71021798
>if you don't finish your contract there's a fee
>but you CAN if you want. There's nothing stopping you.

eww cockroaches in here

>>71022243
oh come on. You could make that argument for every single chuuba that isn't a 2 view, they're probably making more money than you. Does that mean you shouldn't member or SC them? That has nothing to do with Elira specifically

>>71022264
come on, you doki sisters were sending Nux sc for his insider info.

>>71022397
pay the fee and move on with your life if you want to so badly? whats so hard to understand. You CAN leave anytime you want. I'm sure almost every JP company has the same clauses in their contracts

>>71022362
>laugh at Doki
>when most of NijiEN are a bunch of 3views or 1kfags

>>71019206
>>71019638
It sure would be a shame if something happened during the 3D streams that scuffs them up just enough to be postponed indefinitely "due to covid"

>>71022248
I know right this might affect Vox and the rest of the boys. Elira should fade in the background or quit.

>>71021921
Sorry but Elira is just too hot to look away. Bonus that her voice is sexy and she can sing good.

>>71022435
Which ones?

>>71022397
Fun fact too that amount on contract quitting can be negotiated or can be passed upon depending on the circumstances

>>71019405
>trolls
>telling them the only thing they should do
...So they weren't trolls

>>71022221
>>71021977
if they could why would they act like getting it once they reincarnate is such an eventful ocassion?

>>71022725
I will love her forever for covering Invincible Rainbow Arrow. voice of an angel and the most based taste in games I've ever seen.

>>71022435
My mother is a roach! And she escaped the yacht too! How dare you!

>>71018414
An actual retard, wow

>>71022824
for superchat celebration stream... $$$$$$

>>71012760
I knew Millie was the lapdog. The three stooges were two busy losing the gourds on the boards while she was living it up like a guy whore.

>>71021921
Just look at her. How can you hate someone like this?

>>71022891
Based roach mama

>>71022859
her voice sucks, her singing is highly mediocre
>most based taste in games
Her taste in games is just playing "random jrpg #5037".

You have never watched vtubers outside of the main corpos before.

>>71012760
The best course of action for NijiEN to take now would be to fire Elira. This will save the rest of the branch. This is the only way to save NijiEN at this point in my opinion.

>>71020602
>would make me stop watching her other than looking in the camera and saying "I hate everyone that watches me, go away forever. Literally."
We both know this is false; you wouldn't stop watching her, you'd bargain and beg for her to keep streaming because you have nothing else to live for.
The only way you'd stop watching her is if she literally never streamed again, anywhere as any character.

>>71018640
Just remind them that she will have to breach 125K CCV. Thems the breaks for a hiatus return after over a month these days.

>>71016942
>saying mean things (if it ever happened)
>attempt murder?
Does that mean we are a group of murderers because that's exacrly what we do

>>71023249
>Her taste in games is just playing "random jrpg #5037".
Actually just just copies whatever Nui played and pretended like she cared about her

>>71023102
you're fucking stupid

>>71023117
>How can you hate someone like this?
Are u a tard anon?
It's exactly cuz I hate her that I wanna fuck her

>>71019000
>>71019107
she might be retarded, but them tittys aint retarded

>>71021977
A copy can be bought indeed but only by ANYCOLOR themselves, and they have denied pleas to do so.

>>71021921
>she ran a train
"people" defend this behavior
grim

>>71019700
>implying Elira "Grand Dragon" Grandora pivoting to being an alt-right vtuber won't revitalize her career
Pile on the "Selen is a chink" and "Japs are honorary aryans" and she might break through the normiemold in a bigger way than this drama did

>>71023766
>>71019000 (me)
I never called her retarded. I called her a whore.

>>71012760
This doesnt change the fact that they have literally slave contracts that hasn't changed, and will probably never change.

>>71022544
Anon if I'm in the situation selen is I would rather ask a lawyer already at that point considering what she have done already

Fun fact I worked for the labor dept of our govt and we had an exact case of selen happened guess what the company not only required to pay the employee but they were suspended and were heavily fined too

What a shitshow.

>>71018414
is this the new cope? all the people who got unsubbed had massive drops on live viewership kek if anything deead subs are the ones staying, the mental gymnastics nijiniggers do man

>>71023951
It doesn't change a lot about NijiEN. It doesn't change how it took nearly 3 years just for another wave to get their 3D, it doesn't change how horribly neglected Pomu and Selen were, it doesnt change how their remaining fanbase is full of schizo femoids, it doesnt change the fact that new talents have been struggling post XSOLEIL, and it doesn't change their attempts to slander ex-talents like Zaion and Selen. Where they go from here really depends on whether or not they can get the trouble makers to behave.

>>71018414
Nice (You)'s

>>71024987
They've been on this one since the start, nothing new.

>>71023770
source?

>>71023249
compared to your oshi who plays neopets, hide & seek apex and sonic dreams?

>>71025120
They own the channels, the buttons would get sent straight to their office. This is corroborated by the fact every single picture of one is taken there.

>>71022784
They believed they were trolling.
It's the thought that counts.

>>71012760
disgusting prostitutes

>>71012997
*sigh*

>>71012760
Elira isn't the one making those tweets. I don't know who is, but she doesn't type like that.

>>71012760
They won over some dramafags on twittards? Oh

>>71025225
>Lazy rebuttal formed from scanning her new channel's streams in the past two weeks.
Anyone who's been following knows this is disingenuous, but I don't expect much from the group that put placeholders saying
>"Please fill this, I don't watch them"
for over half the organs in the "love for NijiEN" doc.

>>71025456
How high the chance could be that Millie is using Elira's account to make it seem like everything is fine?

>>71022269
>viewers do not
a simple check on video views would say otherwise

>>71025676
It was Millie or Enna. It means that something happened to Elira.

>>71025676
>>71025770
>Remain calm
>The CEO endures
>Elira lives
>The Anycolor Corporation shall endure
>There is much to be done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pzy6e16YPg

>>71025456
How could you tell?

>>71025876
One of the last three fameliras after the fallout. Including me.

>>71012760
Cool. Now we can ask her what the FUCK she was thinking.

>>71012760
What did the clique win? More sub count drop?

>>71012760
nijisanji, ew.

>>71025857
Your HOI choice is proving eerily prophetic.
Millie here skinwalking Elira withbher own Marcos coup kek.

give it a few more weeks and doki will drop to 2-3k ccv, she has failed to kill nijisanji en. fulgor got an upgrade, petra and rosemi is getting their 3d models, milord is returning soon and will be getting huge ccv on his return stream. tick tock, dokibird.

>>71017712
>so many people
Just sisturds and bootlickers.

>>71026402
I knew it all along
>>71026414
>Doki Derangement Syndrome

>>71026414
Inhelium copium: the post

>>71024987
>all the people who got unsubbed had massive drops on live viewership
Proof?

>>71026414
>milord

>>71025676
Definitely Millie.
Petra thanked Millie specifically for all the work she's been doing to set up collabs and what not.
It wouldn't be a huge stretch to assume that this means Millie is now acting in a managerial position, which is what Elira was doing before the black screen.
Managers have full access to all of the livers' social medias, and Elira just randomly coming out of nowhere and being chatty after her last tweet was an incredibly generic reaction to Pokemon comes off as highly suspicious, especially since she wasn't in the off-collab, despite supposedly still being in Japan with the rest.
Honestly, the whole thing feels like a very "Millie" idea, like the fake 4chan Discord and the Hat stream.

>>71012760
Considering how hard they lost by not doing that it's not very surprising

>>71026414
Enna mogs Dookie with sheer talent. Can't wait for her 3D debut next.

>>71026593
If true, it's sad seeing Millie replying to herself in OP's pic.

>>71026593
The idea that Millie, Enna or Finana could be skinwalking Elira as we speak is fucked up yet oddly fitting. The queen bee was usurped.

>>71026531
Is... is this normal for a two-person 3D announcement stream?

>>71026414
Doki's numbers are more likely to stabilize between 5-7k. Not bad, and she gets to reap all the rewards. Can't say the same for Niji's talents.

>>71026685
For Niji? Yes.

>>71026685
AI

>>71026685
For the biggest Vtuber corpo in the world? Yes.

>>71026531
Figure A.

>>71026685
yeah, for Petra
It's also a split PoV and had little to no hype + she leaked it anyway

>>71012760
Hey, if Elira starts gaining subs again, maybe she'll be able to hit 600k in another 7 months, which is how long it took her to gain that 40k the first time.

>>71026850
NijiEN was already going down the toilet and Enna ruined her own career + the people who still actually watch her wouldn't give a fuck about Selen

>>71026531
Figure B.

>>71026414
>>71026698 (me)
Doki is also great at networking, securing sponsorships, and getting involved in collabs/events. Again, can't say the same for Niji's talents.

>>71026698
That's about where I would put it as well, and I think the general consensus is that most Dragoons are looking forward to all the tourists leaving.

>>71019551
Why would Elira have to say sorry to Selen when Enna is the one heading the so called clique.
The saddest part of all this is that Elira and Selen were actually close behind the scenes and shes the one the desperate drama faggots are clinging to and not the dirty wigger sucking cunt

>>71027029
>Dragoons are looking forward to all the tourists leaving
As a newgoon, I agree.

>>71025225
What's wrong with those games?
I'd take that than enna singing or millie asmr bullshit

>>71026607
Reality check: being talented at singing doesn't translate to total success. The only people who believe that are the mindless drones paying money to watch cable TV shows like The Voice or American Idol. Remember Jordan Smith? Joshua Ledet?

99% of the world doesn't.

>>71026607
I'll get back to you in 2028

>>71025120
For the fact ANYCOLOR are the only ones who can order more: they own the channel as well as the AdSense account associated with it (or them if it's shared) and full access to both is the only way in which you can order more.
As for denying pleas to do so:
>>70143831 (transcript of Kazaki talking about it with video)
Chaika had a similar case of it being lost.

>>71015164
If she’s smart she will do exactly as Doki did with the situation. Start streaming, make one last statement on the entire matter, clarify she is sorry for what Selen had to go trough, that things are better now and that it’s time to move on.
Doesn’t take even 10 minutes and that’s all. People here are so into their own theories they forget Doki has literally said to not take it on the livers AFTER the black video, that she shown nothing but will to move on from day 1. Glad they finally too the hint from here that all of this was unnecessary.

Doki is stable at 8k, can keep that numer even with FWMC surprise return intercepting her, it’s an heathy number for an indie. Where that goes is up to her, and having been fully terminated she has little to no NDA to care about.
EN has a lot of anti but whoever can be good will recover them. They will all take the route of wanting to move on annd treat Selen like every other person who left.
After the shareholders meeting, graduations will get back on, neutral as before so that any furue “incident” with people not wanting to stay is avoided.

They know they are on thin ice and the best thing to do is to calmly move away from it. If any of them starts shit, it will break again. People simply forgive but don’t forget. Next fuck up will be only bigger.

>>71026607
Enna can't even mog a fly lol. Also, talent? What "talent"? Being a yab machine?

>>71026910
>the people who still actually watch her wouldn't give a fuck about Selen
Those people are negligible

At this point, I don't even think it's sisters making these types of threads and posts. They can't be this retarded.

>>71027029
Yeah, same. I think she actually has the capacity to reach these numbers "legit" later, but it's going to take time, luck, and hopefully better friends than she had at Niji.

>>71026414
Superficial upgrades are just papering over the internal rot.

>>71026593
>>71027823
In hindsight now, after the exposed contract with the clause that 'livers' can be financially responsible for any 'damage' done to the company etc, even after they're gone...
That stream directly resulted in them taking more financial/stock hits, literally lost millions in profit, and the stream was probably done without them being entirely honest to the JP branch.
There's also been rumors that they became shady with finances as well, so it's very possible Elira might end up being the fall-girl and scapegoat for all of what happened. Going off how JP likes to deal with things, it would be a lot easier for them to put all the blame on her, considering she's actually in Japan now.
Crazy shit, never could've guessed that Millie would become the Alpha again, like back when they were all indies.

>>71027309
Is that before or after the 4th attempt?

>>71019412
>50k people manually unsubbed
That's catastrophic.

>>71020602
Okay Millie.

>>71026414
All of that and Doki gets to fuck around with her play button while Vox can't even touch his.

Imagine getting 1 mil subscribers and not owning the award for it.

>>71012760
If losing a bunch of subs, sponsors for your company, causing a non-negligible amount of stock damage, tanked your entire branches reputation, and helped the "enemy" get massively popular is your definition of a win anon I guess you guess really did win.

>>71027854
She has gained many new fans, myself included, who donate and have become members. 5-7k seems quite reasonable as of right now.

>>71021026
>channel gets deleted, permanently losing years worth of work
>company publishes a slandering document to ruin your reputation
>have to pay penalty fees, although that might not be enforceable

>>71025120
Tsukino Mito : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDwXAPr1Tr4
> livers don't get their own play buttons, it's lined up on a wall in the office
> she won't get it in her hands
> there's a ton of them lined up in the wall
Morinaka Kazaki : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBPo0JUNQ34
> there's a wall on the office where the line up the silver play buttons
> they "lost" hers when she asked, and refused to get another one
Hanabatake Chaika : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC6UyvXmpfo
> some of his kouhai have their play buttons lined up in the wall, but his own play button was not seen
> others wonder if Iwanaga-san took some with him when he left

>>71028364
oops, wrong video for Mito : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmUkKUIMZHc

>>71028364
Saving this for shorthand next time one of the sisters gets stuck in a loop again.

>>71028499
Mito video is here btw >>71028435 accidentally pasted something else there

>>71028364
>>71028435
SISTERS?????? OHNONONONO AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE

>>71021921
>Asian girl on a dorm with jocks
So she fucked every single one of them.

>>71026607
Lmao, Enna barely managed to beat Selen on her karaokes and Selen/Doki is Amelia tier but keep dreaming
btw, to this day Selen still has the biggest number of viewers on outfit debut

>>71028570
the mental gymnastics will be
>EN is special, they get better treatment than JP

>>71028435
>all the playbuttons are lined up against the wall
grim
i bet riku uses them as a mirror

>>71028695
comments have some readymade cope

>>71020376
Enna hasnt faked a suicide yet Anon

>>71020602
You're one of those people who refuse to admit there's any wrong with what you like and do. Even if you see a moral dilemma, you default to what you are comfortable and familiar with.

You're a case of "it doesn't matter because it didn't happen to me". You're no different from the remaining Nijisupporters.

Wait a month for Elira to come back and talk about how terrible the hate has been, and how she also thought about ending it all.

You will feel bad for her. You may even feel like wanting to cry. You will support her.

You are a tool. A willing tool. The kind of person who would support their family member in court despite mounting evidence they committed first-degree murder.

Go ahead and waste your money on her only to see her play the same games over and over, and then publish another original song that's been stuck behind red tape for over six months.

>>71028364
those vtuber characters are designed by nijisanji and owned by nijisanji. they have the right to keep the original play buttons, its not an anomaly for a company to keep records of their achievements on a wall in the office.

>>71028979
Nothing wrong with the company keeping a button for display in the office.
Everything wrong with the livers not being allowed to order a second one for themselves.

>>71028979
Their biggest competitor lets their talents keep the play buttons. It's such a simple PR move to amend this and give all the talents one button. There's literally no fucking downside to amending this rule. Everyone can celebrate it and it would increase morale across both the talents and the fans. The fact it has never been changed speaks volumes to the mentality they approach things.

The characters may be affiliated with Nijisanji but they are piloted by real people.

Imagine if we applied the same logic to other industries. Imagine an athlete winning a trophy but they had to give it to the company they're associated with.

Think.

>>71029057
The billion dollar company not forking over 200 bucks as a sign of appreciation for their employee's work is a bad look in and of itself. Disallowing them this accolade is another thing entirely.

>>71028979
Can the Livers at least see the wall and take photos of it?

>>71027224
enna sings better than doki, you tripping.

>>71020602
You are what's called A Useful Idiot.
Please go find someone random on the street, let them know that you'd rather someone kill themselves 100 times over than stop watching an eastern drawing of a lesbian playing Pokémon for the 80th day in a row, and let us know how they respond.

>>71028364
i know they dont get their buttons, that wasnt even the question. I asked where does it say they cant buy a copy from youtube.

>>71029434
If they spend thousands of dollars out of pocket to go to japan sure, that is, as long as it isnt missing from the wall like multiple are.

Honestly these kind of posts is why I have no hope in EN anymore. Their livers will collectly finally catch the lifesaver of being “neutral and move on” that Doki tossed them a month ago, only for the nijisis to stir another shitstorm for them out of nonsensical bullshit.

You dig your own grave I guess. Can’t control the parasocials.

>>71029967
Multiple livers have mentioned asking staff to order another, even out of pocket, and all have been denied.

>>71029057
>>71029342
>>71029434
the livers should be grateful that nijisanji gives them the chance to perform and earn these achievements, the play buttons is merely an item, it has no real value and you all know what has value ? the salary that the company hands out, if they really want their play buttons so much, quit nijisanji and try joining hololive then or be an indie and see if you can gain that milestone without the brand behind your back.

>>71030095
>>>>>>>>>> salary
KEKAROO

>>71030095
I can smell this post

>>71029900
News flash, dipshit: not everyone wants to tune into karaoke streams or care much about singing.

News flash 2: anybody who watches Doki isn't watching her for her singing. If you're watching Enna, you're certainly not doing it to see her compete in any ranked shooters.

News flash 3: singing is not an essential skill for being a vtuber. Streaming is about engaging with and retaining an audience. Singing is merely one way of doing it.

oh man, it's been over a month and their subscriber rates are still negative. I wonder how long til it stops.

>>71030095
You're not a real human being.

>>71029900
Enna is pure wasted potential.

>>71029900
Everytime someone pulls the Enna card I laugh. Of all of them, even Elira, Enna should graduate the fuck out asap for how he’s treated.
She has definitely a voice that could be sent to proper training and development of a singer carreer, she could literally do the idol path of making original songs, a concert, and when doneenough graduate into a singer carreer.
Instead she’s in there stagnating and doing the occasional cover. Literal bird in a gilded cage, but her fans will still clap.

>>71019700
>saying nigger on stream would ruin a chuuba's career now
skill issue

>>71029057
>>71029342
>>71029365
>>71029967
>>71030059
Not in corporate idol and entertainment culture etc...
They are a product, not people. They own the IP, so the talent is basically just subjective and all their gains belong entirely to the company. Like it literally isn't theirs, the company owns and controls the character. And they also look at it that the talent never would've had their success if it wasn't for the company backing. That's why most JP entertainment media companies have almost no respect for most talent.
To the rest of the world, yeah, it looks terrible, but this is how they've been doing things for a long, long time.

>>71019700
she made fried chicken and basketball jokes and barely got a slap on the wrist. she could shout "nigger" at the top of her lungs and I doubt much of anything would happen.

>>71030363
Again, I point to Hololive. They literally lean into the whole “idol” thing way more than Niji does but they’ve done a far better job at maintaining a facade of caring for their talents like they’re human beings.

“They are the exception, not the rule.”

Yeah, well, it’s clear people like what they’re doing versus what Anycolor is doing.

>>71030363
They're larping as a talent agency, antithesis to everything that makes those what they are. It's honestly hilarious seeing it finally blow up in their face.

>>71019700
Reimu said NIGGER on Millie's collab stream yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhs-08212w8&t=1222s

>>71030363
>the company owns everything and its normal for JP companies to be shit to the ones making them money
Ok no shit but what's your point? Should we not keep shitting on them for being dickholes when other companies show you don't have to do that.
Bullying companies works anon. I wont stop pointing their shit out if Riku wont spend $200 on a plaque the talent earned when he's earning so much that couldn't be bothered to bend over to pick up that much money off the ground in front of him.

>>71017712
>>71018041
Cry harder

>>71030582 (me)
Imma get called ESL for that last run-on sentence but its 4am and I'm 5 beers in.
Goodnight anons. Don't die.

>>71028784
think about this for a sec
>gets a copy of their play button
>on the day they graduated/terminated they will return all possessions credited due to the company as said in the leaked contract
>therefore they dont really push for the play button
>and niji only pulls out the play button card when theres a lack of drama

>>71030363
So no different than hollywood, novels and comic? Its just part of the program if they want to make lots of money. I saw indies talk aobut vtuber indie groups that get together as an alternative to corps/agencies and they make pennies, take 6 months just to make a cover video.

Indies get nowhere unless they mingle with flesh streamers and ethots, with a few exception of course, but thats like 1%. Just like that in indie, there is the 1% of corp vtuber that keeps their character and avatar, but i only seen 1 in holo (suisei) and 3 in vspo (qpi akarin met).

>>71029967
Kazaki clip
> Ibrahim : Well wasn't there a way you could get another one if you lose it?
> Kazaki : No
There is, but niji outright refused to do it

>>71030511
Yeah, basically lol. During the first few years, they actually respected their talent a lot more and tried a lot of interesting streaming ideas, like whoever was actually running the company then actually cared, but it was too early on and didn't pan out.
>>71030582
No not at all, keep the heat on them, I just meant what seems completely normal to them with all of this looks absolutely horrible to most of the world. They're prob mad af at how seriously the international community takes this because to them it's probably totally superficial, even a joke. Hopefully all this attention can make a change in their entertainment business culture.
>>71031315
Not quite, dipshit. You can use that work and experience etc to get your next job, they don't have you sign a contract and NDA where you can't even fucking talk about what you did professionally for the passed few years. Fucking retard.

>>71031709
nigger you know what i meant, no two things are exactly the same.

>>71028952
>You're no different from the remaining Nijisupporters.
Considering they're literally a remaining niji supporter... Yeah. Call a spade a spade, a sister a sister, etc.
>>71030095
KEK. Nice falseflag but I'm not buying it this time, anon. That almost sounded real.
>>71030327
Unironically. Hell, even as a streamer she's pure wasted potential. She has a hell of a relatable humor style and she knows how to work a crowd. Her voice is insane, but seriously outside of random covers once a year it's completely wasted under them if they don't actively develop it. I really liked her for quite a while, too...

>>71012760
Very organic and natural exchange between people who definitely don't communicate on discord.

>>71030545
>vinegar
oh no... Meloco your ESL...

>Niji-Anti makes a bread about shiting on Nijisanji
>Nijisisters make it about Doki/Selen
>Goons go in and defend their Oshi
>Goons and Niji-Anti’s BTFO sisters
>Niji-Anti’s bread dies
>Niji-Anti makes a bread about shiting on Nijisanji
“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” - Albert Einstein

I’m just curious why sisters lay their life down for some corpo which doesn’t care about them outside their money. How did you live before finding your corpo oshi? Is there no essence of reason left in your brains or did it never exist anyway? Seeing how the bottom percentiles of the bell curve acts is always sad.

>>71032974
Seriously baffling. NijiEN didn't even EXIST before 2021.

Dramabirds are getting sick of her already.
Meanwhile Niji going strong, nobody got fired or punished, fun all girls irl collab yesterday.
BTW dramabirds are exact same as CN who hated on Hololive.

>>71033214
Cope

>>71033214
all girls but not all viewers

>>71033214
Nice Fanfiction sister

>>71033214
In your dreams.

NIJISEETHE