/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

They probably don’t give much of a fuck, but who knows.

hey guys did you know acclaimed vtuber denpafish is streaming?

https://www.twitch.tv/denpafish

>>70886237
>he doesn't know
grim

>>70886284
Buy an a-
Oh, you did
KYS

>>70886237
anon did you know that holo fes is around the corner?

that stock market is bound to bounce back up so better buy some for some profit

>Keep trying to prop up a failed product while shitting on your bottom line.
>HLZNT tanked, Dev_IS failed to pop off.
Well all thing considered they got off easy because they accumulated enough goodwill. Any other company would have tanked even harder.

>>70886237
First off covers stock price is just usual market fluctuations, they didnt go from 3800 one day and end up at 3200 the next
Secondly, suck my balls

>>70886237
HoloEU announcement @Fes, derivatives are already soaring with IV. I'm expecting ¥4000 by the end of march.

>>70886484
HoloEU is what I dream of every time holomem streams at 2 am

>>70886394
>Usual market fluctuations
>Shows daily value
Fuck off you lying fag.

>>70886237
Both for Cover and for Anycolor (and, for that matter, for ANY listed company) there is no relation between the secondary market for their stocks and their main activity. It is all investors selling to other investors.
That's what makes anycolor "negligible" memo so dumb, they didn't have to do ANYTHING but they did, likely out of spite.

>>70886394
>Usual market fluctuations
>Only shows monthly data
Fuck off lying fag.

>>70886564
If there's a EU or ES member in En4 and it works well. We might see HoloEU or HoloES. I feel like holo will want to test the market first.

>>70886567
>>70886679
sister?

>>70886383
The problem is that Dev_IS Did not have an outstanding talent like other generations.

>>70886710
AIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE DONT ROOK RIKU-SAMA

>>70886777
They're the C-tiers from the 5th gen auditions so no wonder

>>70886777
let them cook

there will be a hit song someday

>>70886237
They were pretty upfront when they IPO'd that it was only to raise money for their new studio and Yagoo would have preferred staying private. With that in mind I don't think they really care, especially since the stock is still more than 75% over their original target price.

>>70886237
YES SISTERS, SELL HOLO STOCKS SELL SELL SELL

Anycolor has been in stagnation for almost a year.

You tell me which one to buy the dip, and which one to short?

>>70886237
Too high expectations, even with their record profits.
Still way above starting price when Niji's was below starting earlier this week. Niji has stagnation for almost a year, even with buy outs and new options. The Google Pixel collab didn't boost much. While Hololive lows are still above previous ones meaning a steady climb. Looking grim with upcoming quarterly report.

Tell me which to buy the dip
and which to short?

>>70886237
For Cover, this IS Negligible.

Niji forever damaging their reputation and annulling future collabs and growth is not
RIP Niji

>>70886777
>t. actual retard

>>70886237
Japan entered recession in case you don't know

>>70889279
It's funny how desperate sisters are for a single w they can't get

>>70886237
Can they really just come out and say their investors are retarded for bailing because their rival company fired one of their EN girls?

>>70886898
they will start cooking after their 3D debut

do they even care about stocks

>>70886237
>Is it based for Cover to not give a shit about their stocks falling down or is it an ignorant move that they will soon regret ?
It can be both
The right move for customer/fan confidence and the wider potential customer/vtuber watching PR is to continue as if it's nothing to worry about
For outsider money movers who don't give a shit about virtual hostess clubs for the mentally disabled and just wanna make money to spend at real clubs, it could be problematic
Niji is in violent death throes right now which is making the whole industry seem shaky, if it manages to die whimpering Holo will rebound but if they have an explosive death it could bring too much attention and put other companies in the blast zone taking big damage because they haven't set up any pre-defense to alleviate concerns for the strength of the industry as a whole
They're already taking burn damage and Niji looks ready to go nuclear, so the worst case seems very possible

>>70889468
Considering Yagoo told an investor to shut his bitch mouth about how the company is run, probably not too much.

>>70889497
based, why are we still having threads about holo stocks then lmao

>>70889279
HOLOSEETHE

>>70889551
Until Sony gives me Bloodborne on PC they can get fucked
Their backing means nothing
t. fat ugly baron

>>70889551
>falling for the pump portion of a pump and dump scheme

>>70886710
BTFO holy shit

>>70888714
Short Niji. That shit is gonna tank soon.

>>70886237
Only reason Anycolor stock is rising right now is because they let ppl lend their stock for free to be trade on the market.
It's a gamble on how can they raise the stock price up, but if it fail again then only way to go for Anycolor is bankruptcy.

>>70886394
>PE ratio 40
Shit's overpriced as fuck. This is the kind of stock only degen gamblers can make money on.

>>70889537
Unfortunately a lot of this board operates on a console war mentality, where bad news for the company they like means they're compelled to scramble to find something bad to post about the other one(s), even if it makes no sense or is literally made up

>>70886651
Pumping the stock matters for Anycolor because they spent money for the buyback, and someone probably wants to bail.

>>70886237
>Is it based for Cover to not give a shit about their stocks falling down
Yes. It also shows they're not desperate like Kurosanji.

>>70886237
Cover is too big to fall meanwhile niji stocks can be easily manipulated because they are a nobody and irrelevant now

>>70886710
oof

>>70889551
man nijiniggers posting <oomed 4 day graphs are hilarious is this a way to cope from the1y reports?

>>70890577
In this case it's less console war mentality and more the general unwillingness to let nijisiters deluding themselves to have anything resembling a win without looking like absolute clowns while doing so.
Also, there is an ideological component as well: if the narrative that doing business like Nijisanji hurts your reputation but boost your stock, then some other company eventually might be tempted to do it as well.
Instead, it should be shown that Hololive should be the economic model for how a company like this should be run, even if all you care about is your economic return, because long term gains and stability should be what actual investors (and not speculators) aim for.

>>70889397
Those investors are also retarded for being unsatisfied with Cover's 80% YoY growth.

Cover pays their talents too much. That money should be going to the valuable shareholders. Shareholders are the mvp.

>>70889537
Because nijikeks need to distract from their own failing company/stock.

Japanese economy did well last month, it's hard to tell why vtuber companies are lagging.

>>70886237
What kind of statement would Yagoo give?
"Oh, sorry about Riku being alive. He's autistic but hopefully he doesn't shit the bed anymore and consequentially fuck us over again."

>>70891622
"The effect of Anycolor's fuck ups on our stock price will be negligible."

>>70891603
japanese just got out of their 35 year bear market

>>70886710
Nice one.

>>70886237
anons if holo stock crashes will they do JAVs With their talents?
I love JAVs especially with matsuri

They don't give a shit.

By value standards Cover is insanely overvalued. By growth standards Cover is doing extremely well but extremely well is no longer good enough for the retards in institutional investing. The reality is the stock market of any country is run by incompetents who know nothing of how to run a business, so having a CEO that tells them to fuck off is a very good thing because what usually happens in publicly traded companies is they appoint a shitter that guts the company (ie takes out a loan for buybacks just because). Guarantee you the same investors think Riku did nothing wrong, but they will also bail out on him anyway.

>>70889487
Why would Niji's death affect Holo? They have nothing to do with Niji's shitty practices and general incompetence.

>>70886777
The problem is dev_is is a weird thing that happened
Original idea: Separate project that was meant to appeal to normies, so the market can expand
Actual execution: Average idol group marketed towards non-otaku lesbians for some reason.
Final result: below average gen with some lesbian fanbase, no normie audience and no real mainstram growth

It was bizarre, whi the fuck thought someone like Ao was gonna be big in the JP mainstream. She looks like the type of girl that hangs out at grimy lesbian bars.

>>70891603
People go to vtubers the same way men used to go to geishas. They need to up the gfe a little, EN has been influencing JP too much.

>>70886710
Anycolor all time gain
>2%

>>70892048
>marketed towards non-otaku lesbians for some reason.
How did you reach that conclusion? All because of Ao? What about the others?

>>70892191
>butch lesbian holo
>smoking and gambling lesbian holo
>lipstick lesbian
>kond of butch businesses women holo
>grandmas girl closeted lesbian holo
Most normie group ever, wow

>>70891966
Because it's the same product, just a different package
Is there something inherently wrong with the product, or the package?
The Niji wrapper was found to be foul, yet there's much speculation that the product is itself part of the package with livers being forced to take on corporate responsibilities beyond existing as what they're meant to be, an object to be sold
People may then begin to speculate on how foul the overall product is and how they effect things even without corporate responsibility, Rushia being one example that was held in Hololive.
An industry based on selling mentally unstable people who were poorly socialized growing up as a big social icon to other even worse socialized mentally unstable people might start being recognized as just an inherently unstable market. If you consider not the supply/demand of the market as a whole which is relatively stable since lonely people love their streamers, but the individual vtubers and the companies housing them which is where you have to pour your money into things are clearly way too dramatic
What other industry have you seen which is as schizo and drama prone as this one?

>>70892678
I think Hololive does need to expand, but people need to be realistic that the main audience for this stuff is lonely men. Lets put it this way, if your average vtuber viewer found a gf, the whole industry would collapse in a less than a month.

>>70886710
That don't mean shit if you didn't buy at the beginning of IPO, the correct way to look at stock is the YTD graphic.

>>70886679
>Only shows 3 months data.
To show real trends for a company do at least the 5 year tab please. It's embarrassing.

>>70893042
>5 years tab to companies with less than 2 years IPOs

What a fucking retard, let me guess, lefty commie?

>>70892130
Nobody is talking about anycolor faggot. Niji living rent free in your head because it's empty.

>>70893093
kek the irony

>>70893083
Because for a young company you are looking at the whole thing at the 5-year tab. You are looking at such a small amount of time (3 months!) you're sounding like a fucking day trader. I say 5 years is enough time to see where trends lie for long running companies and for new companies you see the entire thing. That's why it's good for noticing stock trends.

>>70886237
I think Cover doesn’t care unlike ANycolor they dint spend millions to make their stock look better

>>70893313
>5 year tab when Cover IPO was less than 1 year ago, and Anycolor was less than 2 years ago

Ok, retard.

>>70886237
sorry anon, i sell my share to buy new sponsor for my wife gura...
will buy it back to 3600 after holofes end...

>>70893035
YTD is possibly the worst way to look at it, since it's not aligned to the financial year and currently only shows 2 months worth of data

>>70893035
>YTD is the best thing to look at
>2 months in
Why are you so retarded?

>>70886237
Imagine how pissed off cover execs are that Anycolor fucked up the market stock prices again.

>>70893035
Please tell me that you're merely pretending.

How much of a mentally ill subhuman do you have to be to oshi stocks? What the fuck is wrong with nijisanji fans?

>>70895626
The fuck you want them to oshi? The yacht?

>>70896048
The vtubers

>>70896302
they will eventually graduate.