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Japanese side is taking notice of awful Nijisanji contract.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d3_C9TCpvg

>> No.70845270 [DELETED] 
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70845270

Don't care? Japs are cheaters and cucks, why should anyone take their opinions seriously?

>> No.70845302

Miau.

>> No.70845404

>>70845147
>38k views
No one cares

>> No.70845414

>>70845270
It's important because so far JP fans were largely oblivious to all the bad things Nijisanji was doing. Now the news of horrible treatment of EN are spreading back to Japan and in the linked video they're noticing the way contract is written clearly suggests it was translated - which means original Japanese contracts are most likely just as terrible.

>> No.70845494

>>70845404
You can't stop this, NDF. The word is spreading.

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>>70845414
I'm gonna be honest, I read it wrong and thought OP meant they are endorsing it, but my point still stands, good for them for waking up

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>>70845546
It's fine, Friend. Step by step.

>> No.70846237

>>70845404
That's a lot of Finanas.

>> No.70846392

They don't give a shit about EN exactly like you don't about JP. It's not Hololive.

>> No.70846401

>>70845270
Japan created this niche
Also, anime website

>> No.70846469

>>70846237
Finanas are only a measure of ccv not views.

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>>70845147
Leaks has breached JP, the jap bros are hilariously shitting on kurosanji now.

>> No.70846537

>>70845404
Don't worry sister, the JP bros are watching Based Mindset >>70846474 for info.

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70846581

meanwhile in the nips sisters site

>> No.70846750
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Nijis are just prostitutes confirmed.

>> No.70846774

>>70845404
That’s more views than some NijiEN’s streams

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>>70846401
Okay?

>> No.70846844
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>low views
>most comments are doubting whether the contract is true or not
>Japs are used to this kind of contracts in the first place, they don't care about "muh freedumbs" as much as Amerimutts do
There is a whole lot of nothing in this burger for sure.
>>70846474
>downvoted comments
Self-owned dramatranny.

>> No.70846851

>>70846581
Let the mental illness be contained there is better than them shitting /vt/ even more.

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>>70846844
Sisters fears the Based Boomer Lawyer.

>> No.70846966

>>70845270
Who the fuck are you, a nobody, to speak of the rest of us, the anybodies in the everybody?

>> No.70847237
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>>70846844
>blatantly lying
classic NDF strategy

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>>70847237

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>>70846750
I'd pay for her for sure.

>> No.70847366

>Nijisanji is a billion dollar company
>Will basically hire SEAniggers that can barely speak English to handle translating their contracts so long as they'll work for $7.50 an hour
Shit like this reminds me that no matter how much a company will stress about new employees needing to have certain levels of experience or qualifications or certifications, all of that will go out the window if someone who barely speaks English comes along willing to do the same work for a fraction of the price.

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>>70846966
Because my post is the first post, also known as "best post", silly anon, you should lurk more,.

>> No.70847416

>>70846581
Disgusting bootlickers

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>>70846844
Get fucked sister.

>> No.70847456

>>70847366
And they get what they pay for as a result.

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>>70847330
Some of the comments are gold, lol.

>> No.70847500

>>70846750
Maybe because a Jap said it, but this is quite funny

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>>70847330

>>70847499
Yeah, I love how savage JP can be. They really have a way with words.

>> No.70847579

>>70847366
It works when you're all in for max profits, just sell your stocks at max value before it crumbles to nothing because it will happen sooner or later.

>> No.70847646

>>70845147
holonigger falseflag

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>>70847560

>> No.70847700

>>70846237
Kind of missed this meme amid all the drama, what unit size is a Finana and why is she being memed on specifically?

>> No.70847786

I'm starting to believe Based Mindset reads the doxxsite, or some anon is feeding him the script to completely shutdown the retardsisters.
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx1uUXgEejZ2uB8RoZ_i0bptr12Wh4-Ibe?si=vo1xkQy1HQjjjv7a

>> No.70847851

>>70847700
>what unit size is a Finana and why is she being memed on specifically?
Anons started to using it as a meme of low performance, it's also a wake up call for her but it seems anons have tried to help her (look for the archives) for a long time and she doesn't seem interested in changing.

>> No.70847864

>>70847700
300 ccv
She was (probably) crying in multiple Finana threads about anons being mean to her and Elira
>YOU FUCKS

>> No.70847868

>>70847237
>>70847330
>>70847499
>>70847560
>>70847689
>cherrypicked comments from dramafag nijiantis
Now post the ones which are skeptical if it's true in the first place which are the majority, faggot. Mentioning Gundou is a dead giveaway because she was massively hated in the Niji community.

>> No.70847876
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>>70847689
There are so many comments like this. Everyone is realizing this contract is true and having a realization that this explains why so many livers are graduating and why there are so many problems with Nijisanji.

>> No.70847891

>>70847700
300 CCV
It's memed because Finana is a first gen EN liver who can only pull 300 CCV.

>> No.70847953
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>>70847864
The Finana unit is the kindest meme compared to the others, Enna gets obliterated by the piece of paper and not a single discussion can be done since then.

>> No.70847972

>>70847416
hypocrites too. they yap about confidentiality while niji casually shared confidential documents with black screen tards.

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>>70847700
Not a numbermonkey so idk about units, but
>why is she being memed on specifically?
she tried to rake in unicorn bucks even while she was actively shitting on them, resulting in her bleeding viewers.
>L + ratio you PARASOCIAL FUCKS!!!

>> No.70848026

>>70847953
I wonder if getting meme'd this hard, along with the revenue dropoff, will be a wakeup call for her as well.

>> No.70848057

>>70847868
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not his fault.
And if it was, he didn't mean it.
And if he did, they deserved it.

>> No.70848094
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>>70845147
Completely nothingburger
Every entertainment company is exploitative and it has been so for decades. Just get used to it
People know what they are getting into and still sign for it so no problem here

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>>70847868
Those aren't cherrypicked at all. I'm posting pretty much everything that is readable after DeepL.

>Now post the ones which are skeptical if it's true in the first place which are the majority, faggot.
How about you post them if you're so sure? Oh wait, you can't, because they don't exist. Some people are in disbelief over how utterly shitty contract is but nobody is claiming that it's false.

>>70847876

>> No.70848109

>>70847876
JP is having doubts since the contract may actually be the same for the JP livers, investors are obviously defending their money but the public opinion > investors.

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>>70847953
Her birthday karaoke also got mogged by Fauna's unfinished minecraft tree anniversary

>> No.70848131

>>70847868
Why do they need to do your work? You said they're cherrypicking so why not put effort into showing the truth?

>> No.70848154

>>70846581
This is an advanced level of cuckery the likes of which the world has never seen

>> No.70848156

>>70848094
pakistani sister spotted

>> No.70848159
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>>70848094
>ducky
Poor choice, nijinigger.

>> No.70848160

>>70845147
Everyday it keeps getting worse. Imagine being Riku waking up in the morning, wondering what'll fuck up today.

>> No.70848171

>>70848057
Classic sissies strat

>> No.70848206

>>70846844
You need to work on your grammar sister.

>> No.70848270

>>70846581
>what you do in your work is confidential information that you will take with you to your grave for the rest of your life.
Only if it's very important like national defense.

>> No.70848284

>>70848159
Ducky is a faggot and just straight niji shill, it can't just stop sucking niji's divk

>> No.70848293

>>70847499
lel their quips are often good. JP Bros are funny when they feel like it.

>> No.70848298

>>70845404
Lol true, niji en numbers

>> No.70848307

>>70848094
Ah yes, the games journalist turned "vtuber journalist" by getting a vtuber model who I've seen in the past tacitly condone Uki's comments. Truly a neutral source.

>> No.70848325

>>70848159
sisters literally are living example of instant loss 2koma lol

>> No.70848351

>>70847868
anon are you retarded?
of course its cherry picked, thats the fucking point and all sides do it repeatedly.
the bigger point is to show how JP is starting to pick up on why the west is upset instead of writing it off as western bullshit.
>>70848094
ducky has the jap mentality of saying "oh its normal practice so its fine", ignoring that nothing will change if people dont get upset and force companies to change it.
hes just as bad as those hes called out because hes clearly too in love with luxiem to notice that the world isnt revolving around them anymore.

>> No.70848373

>>70848270
Sorry I need that confidential information to argue why my tankfu needs buffs in War Thunder

>> No.70848393
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>>70848106
There are a lot of people who say "if it's true" which is perfectly reasonable - and it is NOT doubting whther the contract is true, it's just a preface, staying cautious. Notice how so many of those comments follow it up with something "it would explain a lot".

>> No.70848398

>>70848017
It's already been detailed before >>70242382 kind sad.

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>>70848160
Oh I know precisely what is starting to be on his mind.

>> No.70848477

>>70848094
See >>70848057
How far till you stop posting?

>> No.70848481

>>70848094
I guess that's what makes Hololive the superior company

>> No.70848483

>>70848159
Sisters can't just help themselves, lmao.

>> No.70848504

Seriously though, how bad is this contract in Japan? Every first world country it's simply not legal, but what about Japan? Surely Jap work culture can't be so bad that this is acceptable.

>> No.70848525

>>70847499
Liverworld, catch and release version

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>>70848126
At this point is not a high bar, even indies can do better without the kurosanji and menhera NDF debuff.
The memes are golden tho.

>> No.70848554

>>70846581
nijisanji will get Faze'd soon
https://youtu.be/5goOTtfg5xc

>> No.70848562

>>70848270
Even that gets declassified in 15-20 years
Really the only thing that you get into the grave is war crimes

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>>70848393
Oh really? What's this then?

>> No.70848583
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>>70848393

>>70848351
These aren't really cherrypicked. I posted like 70-80% of comments scrolling from top. The ones I omitted I omitted because DeepL was spewing out incoherent garbage.

>> No.70848622

>>70848584
wow one comment from NDF sugee
vs 50 other comments
much majority

>> No.70848698

>>70848504
It's illegal in Japan too. They prey on the fact they hire 20yos who never had a big job before and have no knowledge of law. Such young person won't go against the company. Even Zaion wasn't able to do anything a year ago.

>> No.70848769

>>70848584
Come back after you have ~double of what was posted in this thread. After all the claim was
>most comments are doubting whether the contract is true or not
Until then shut up and choke on a dick, Pakistani sister.

>> No.70848773

>>70848584
Sister you have to pick better arguments than "its fake because I said so", the rrats were just random schizos until kurosanji shoot themselves and prove them they were real.
Just look at the contract leak, it proves Le retard Vox was lying to a surprise of nobody.

>> No.70848783

>>70847786
>Likes Pippa
>Probably read /here/
Is it really that hard to believe that doxxsite is the next step

>> No.70848825
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70848825

Here's an amusing one, using the "there's other bad companies out there" cope. Probably would get a better tl with deepl but I'm just perusing comments for some amusement.

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>>70848622
>>70848769
>>70848773
>cherrypick only the most inflammatory comments
>complain when I do the same
Eat shit. Here's a more neutral one then. You're not convincing anyone but Gundoufags and other retards to take your side.

>> No.70848876

>>70847786
rusted bro...
just use https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAy3hywjiVg&t=238s

>> No.70848883

>>70848584
"This" is the left edge of the bell curve. In other words, a bell-end.

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>>70848698
The most important part of all of this is not that this is real or fake, is that:
-people believe that kurosanji would do something like this
-JP is having doubts about the company and their oshis
-it caught international attention, something JP never wanted (even other corpos get into the public attention)
-it showed how petty, incompetent, malicious they are and how badly they treat their livers on a international scale
So keep coping sisters, this train isn't stopping anytime soon and you better get out of the way.

>> No.70848908

>>70845404
That means that no cares about a sizeable portion of the Nijisanji roster. Not a good look Sister.

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>>70848584
This is your mighty comment. Funny that you posted it because it was directly under these >>70848583
Which means it was pretty fucking far down the list. You had to scroll so much just to find one retarded nijinigger saying some lies. Look at that scrollbar.

>> No.70848948

>>70848918
HAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAA

>> No.70848985
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>>70848825
Why do bugs always fall back on whataboutism as a defence?

>> No.70848989

>>70847499
KEK

>> No.70849088

>>70848985
>if you're allowed to murder people you don't like and get away with it, I should too
this is unironically how they think

>> No.70849104

>>70848845
The ones you posted now aren't doubting if contract is true. Do you even remember what was your original point?
>cherrypick
I posted several DOZENS of comments. I posted MAJORITY of what was there, scrolling from top.
You had to dig far down just to find a single one. What you're doing IS cherrypicking. I'm not doing that. Don't pretend we're at similar level, you stinky whore.

>> No.70849163

>>70848901
Well said.

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>>70848918
roru

rumao even

nijisisters are dumb as shit

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>>70848918
>retard doesn't know how to sort by newest
It has 7 updoots. Are you trying to make it into an updoot war or something? That can be easily botted.

>> No.70849304

>>70848918
>Sisters BTFO #5158123812375
I don't understand why 39IQ menheras even try anymore.

>> No.70849336

When is the Niji shareholder meeting again? Do you think board members know the contracts leaked?

>> No.70849357

>>70849284
Btw all the comments under him are much more neutral and skeptical than the cherrypicked ones.

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Made a compiled picture

>> No.70849376
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>>70849284
>sort by newest
>sort by newest
>sort by newest

>> No.70849385

>>70849284
>sorting by newest
Right, easier to find NDF bots this way, while ignoring what actual viewers think.

>> No.70849420

>>70849336
>Do you think board members know the contracts leaked?
They're already talking about LM contract leaks, LM was shitting on them today because he read the comments with the usual deflection.

>> No.70849460

>>70849284
>That can be easily botted.
why does nijisanji and its bootlickers always self report

>> No.70849463

>>70849369
Based, thank you.

>> No.70849493

>>70849336
The whole internet knows.
The STONKS assholes have known about Selen/Doki since the "Negligible" paper. There's no way they don't know about the contract leak.

>> No.70849498

>>70849385
>actual viewers
You mean Gundoushitters? These aren't actual Niji fans. It's obvious.

>> No.70849501

>>70849284
This is literally you admitting you just wrote the comment lol

>> No.70849555

>>70845147
The Japanese are extremely autistic about things like contracts and what not. If anything was going to turn them against Niji, this would be it.

>> No.70849564

>>70846237
This is a pre-recorded video, Finana's most recent pre-recorded video is at 124k.

>> No.70849578

>>70849501
LMAO true. Self reporting just keeps happening.

>> No.70849638

>>70845404
Anon thats 126.6 Finanas right there. Some of Niji organs are getting 15k views on their whole ass streams.

>> No.70849642

>>70849498
niji has no real fans left

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Fair comment, Niji take notes.

>> No.70849652

>>70848160
I don't think anyone swimming in millions cares much about their mornings.

>> No.70849678

>>70849652
He definitely cares about his millions suddenly disappearing, even if he still has a lot.

>> No.70849683

>>70845147
This is good but unfortunately as this goes on the action market has become an huge speculation war that the sharefags are gonna try to exploit.
I wish I could understand some of it, because Riku is not gonna do jack shit and continue abusing the livers if he's not gonna cash out because these morons are gonna float the shares back to 4000.

>> No.70849698

>niji anti channel grifts off of drama
>nobody but niji antis care

>> No.70849723

>>70849284
Bro, Johnny Kitagawa was a sex pest and
Matsumoto might be responsible for quid pro quo harassment.
Can't believe they are comparing Johnny's and Yoshimoto to Anycolor.

>> No.70849727

>>70849652
retards at nijien are costing him millions. do you know what all billionaires have in common? you dont fuck with their money

>> No.70849743

>>70849683
anon, they can't just miraculously pump it the stock to 4000 again

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>>70849678
>his millions suddenly disappearing

>> No.70849762

>>70849683
Artificial stock bloat is artificial. It will eventually crumble down. A lot of people on yahoo finances are becoming increasingly negative toward Anycolor.

>> No.70849794

>>70849762
>yahoo finance
>retail ever mattering
We might see someone dump a whole $400 worth of stocks because of this

>> No.70849796

>>70849369
Can't believe I downloaded all 9 of those separate images for nothing.

>> No.70849799

>>70849698
ironically people covering that contract care about livers more than nijisanji "fans"

>> No.70849808

>>70849749
>5D
Learn how stock works retard.

>> No.70849816

>>70849762
>A lot of people on yahoo finances

>> No.70849833

You people have called me schizo for years when I said that God would punish Nijisanji for popularizing male collabs. You all called me a deranged unicorn but look at what's happening right now and try to look me in the eyes while claiming that I was delusional all along.

>> No.70849858

>>70849796
They're easier to process individually. Not everyone is willing to read walls of text.

>> No.70849868

>>70849649
NDF don't care

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>>70849808

>> No.70849897

>>70849816
Yes. Lurk more retarded sister. Their posts have been all over /vt/ since Selen's termination.

>> No.70849912

>>70845270
Fag

>> No.70849917

>>70845147
Will JP bros even perceive a bad contract? Don't they worship the company over there and believe pretty much whatever the company can do is right?

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>>70849749
This is expected. Now watch as it'll tank again soon
Also zoom the fuck out

>> No.70849938

>>70849897
>Their posts have been all over /vt/

>> No.70849944

>>70849762
That is actually wrong, I'm on the site and they are convinced the 3D will push the price even further.
They talk of stock shortages and they do mention liquidation, but I'm not sure it's the objective anymore.

>> No.70849968

>>70849698
It's funny how NDF calls literally everyone else a grifter when they are wilfully letting themselves be grifted by Nijisanji to kingdom come.

>> No.70849980

>>70849917
They actually are perceiving.

>> No.70850013

>>70849749
>it bounced and still holds a stable level after years of absolute stagnation and using all liquid assets for buybacks instead of developing
this is sustainable btw, c*ver's new 3d studio means nothing compared to the line

>> No.70850024

SISTERS QUICK BUY ANYCOLOR STOCK WHILE ITS LOW

>> No.70850026

>>70849917
JP thinks it is a bad contract but not to the point of outrage that is here. Most of them doubt the authenticity because of course there is no definitive proof it is, and they are strongly influenced by that over there.

>> No.70850027

>>70849934
There is no reason to believe it'll tank. From now on EN should generate higher views and profits, then compared to the rest of this year.

>> No.70850046

>>70849938
NTA but yes, they have. You really do need to lurk moar.

>> No.70850057

Good luck persuading the Japanese to stop applying to Nijisanji JP.

>> No.70850099

>>70850027
Actually, you might be correct.
If they keep up the number of graduations this year.

>> No.70850107

>>70849944
It's not wrong. It's correct. They're talking about 3D right now, yes. However that doesn't change the fact that over previous weeks they were talking a lot about how all recent happenings have been negative and worrying for Anycolor. And it will continue because current boost is temporary.

>> No.70850111
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70850111

>>70850027
Come on, Millie. You are embarrassing yourself.

>> No.70850126

>>70849460
>why does nijisanji and its bootlickers always self report
39IQ please understand, only retards would try top defend them.

>> No.70850128

>>70845147
Whenever I hear that music can only think of Haachama

>> No.70850152

>>70850027
>There is no reason to
>believe
>From now on
>should
>compared to
Enough internet for you young lady.

>> No.70850171
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70850171

>>70849749
>>70849893

>> No.70850220

>>70850171
Nijistagnation...

>> No.70850221

>>70850026
>Most of them doubt the authenticity
Wrong. Stop spreading lies.

>> No.70850243

>>70850057
there will always be people applying, even to nijien. to many people exposure is just worth getting fucked.

>> No.70850255

>>70850046
Anon, you need to understand that the only thing less important to a stock's prices than a Yahoo finance talk page is a shitpost here.

>> No.70850275

>>70850171
It's really ridicolous how they are here only to exploit the price. Maybe the stock shortage will be what saves us? But there has been a buyback so...
I really wish I could ask someone who gets this stuff. Why we get the drama lawyers but not the economists?

>> No.70850298

>>70850027
>higher views
Have you seen CCV's for the last 6months?
>higher profits
definitely possible, corporate downsizing is a thing. Reduce the number of livers, take their wages and cut of fees as penalties. Less organs, less support staff.

>> No.70850328

>>70850171
>retard didn't know that AnyColor did the stock split before.

>> No.70850375

https://p2y.jp/anycolor-nijisanji-en-new-talent-contract-suspected-leak/
これ読んだけど、仮に本物だったとしても別に驚かんな。にじだしw
てか契約内容が嫌ならVshojoとか他の箱にいけばいいじゃん
ま、どうせ見ないけど

>> No.70850394

>>70850298
>less support staff.
the what now

>> No.70850398

>>70850298
>less support staff.
How do you even go into negatives here. make Elira do work for other companies?

>> No.70850421
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70850421

>>70850024
Ok will buy now

>> No.70850452

>>70848126
So basically she got fucked over by paper and pre-paper

>> No.70850451

>>70850375
Seems like they are indeed stirring

>> No.70850475

>>70850243
Exposure to a mid 3view rabid chink fujoshi fanbase is not going to entice even the worst of people...

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>>70850421
>b-but Cover
rent free

>> No.70850525

>>70850298
Do they even get wages? Also there is no support staff. The only thing you do by removing livers is cutting of sources of revenue.
There is a reason why niji keeps spamming wave after wave.

>> No.70850537

>>70850421
>niji insiders are pulling out of cover stock and are pumping it into anycolor to artificially inflate the value
i kneel... i'd do that aswell

>> No.70850589

>>70850375
It's good that japan is wising up but overall it will not matter until it gets to the point of public outrage or internal investigation, and it may not well get there, only general awareness.

>Some info from one of the commentors, DeepL translation:
Mechanism of Occurrence
Investors engage in short selling (margin selling).
Short selling increases, and securities finance companies run out of stock to lend.
When there is a shortage of shares, securities finance companies borrow shares from institutional investors and lend them to sellers.
At this time, the sellers are charged interest on the borrowed shares (reverse daily interest).

Impact
Reverse daily interest: Sellers bear the reverse daily interest, which increases the pressure to repurchase shares.
Stock price rise: Buying pressure increases and stock price may rise.
A "step-up" may occur when sellers, unable to bear the burden of the reverse daily price premium, buy back shares at a higher price.

Impact on Investors
Investors who are short sellers must bear the reverse daily interest.
Investors who are buying will receive the reverse daily price.
When the shortage of shares is resolved, the stock price may plummet.

>> No.70850593

>>70850525
This isn't like Hololive, they aren't even given a salary if they make below a certain threshold

>> No.70850641

>>70850537
Would inflate the value help or not? Wouldn't it be better to crash if we want to cause liquidation?

>> No.70850643

Dokibitch!

>> No.70850715
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70850715

>>70850375
help them gain some more view on this article

>> No.70850723

>>70850516
Also worth noting, that large spike on >70850171 all that money is gone. While Cover has been using the money they earn to buy shit with tangible value. Meanwhile Riku's casino gamble, wiped out all the money they hoarded from underpaying staff, short-changing partners, and grabbing all the income from livers. So anyone who payed them in this whole period, threw their money down the speculation hole, and lost.

>> No.70850775

>>70850375
This is a Nijianti site that was found out to employ a paid Cover shill to slander them btw.

>> No.70850796

>>70850775
Source: My ass

>> No.70850859

>>70850775
did you redeem todays giftcard?

>> No.70850862

>>70850775
Cool story, source it or I think you are lying

>> No.70850873

>>70846581
>slave contract
sleep
>making fun of baseball
AAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.70850932

>>70850796
>>70850859
>>70850862
https://web.archive.org/web/20200930054432/https://p2y.jp/notice-of-contract-cancellation-with-some-writers/
https://web.archive.org/web/20200930003610/https://twitter.com/P2yjp/status/1311099749613805568

>> No.70851019

>>70850775
>cover pays people to shit on niji
Agent LK rrat isreal?

>> No.70851035

>>70849642
>niji has no real fans left
The investors seems really into it, so they're "fans" I guess their oshi is anycolor tho

>> No.70851046

>>70850932
They fired Covver affiliated writers 4 years ago... so you claim they are pro Cover and anti-Niji now?
Do you have a working brain?

>> No.70851095

>>70849088
its honestly funny

>> No.70851116

>>70848825
>>70848985
I think this is just arguing with women in general, anon. Remember the gender chart, JP Niji fans are majority women.

>> No.70851117

>>70850715
嫌だよw
もし偽物だったら、誤った情報を拡散させたとして後で訴えられちまうからな
>>70850775
俺もにじアンチやで^^
(れなとかフレンは許す。男は全員死ね)

>> No.70851120

>>70851046
>Do you have a working brain?
shes muslim

>> No.70851150

>>70850375
Interesting, they also linked to the 4 hour stream going over the contract.

>> No.70851156

>>70849649
They don't even want to hire minimun wage assistants so don't expect a thing from them.

>> No.70851291

>>70850932
>who was fired in 2020, 4 years ago
ok

>> No.70851316

>>70851117
An niji anti but refuses to spread bad news about them? lol. Look at the retarded overseas on this board, they're willing to spread any rrats, false information over the internet until people believe it.

>> No.70851322
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70851322

>>70851117
>れなとかフレンは許す
based

>> No.70851347

>>70849749
You can see the moment they panicked when it was at ¥3,040.

>> No.70851394

>>70848094
>decades
This shit is not even 10 years old

>> No.70851409

>>70851347
They did, but then turned the title full speculative and now it's inflating, especially after the 3D announcement.
Is there a risk they may convince them to go along and not liquidate or vote Riku out?

>> No.70851472

>>70851046
>>70851291
There is a precedent for them being anti-Niji in general. The Cover shill was fired because of that but because he wrote shit that painted Nintendo in a bad light.

>> No.70851514

>>70846581
Kek, using this whenever any sister tries to use sukikira to shit on Hololive

>> No.70851520

>>70851472
>not because of that
Fix'd

>> No.70851651

>>70851472
>There is a precedent for them being anti-Niji in general
That precedent is called "Nijisanji's actions"

>> No.70851692

>>70845147
もっと調べると面白いでしょう。

>> No.70851717

>>70850024
If you're a true sister you will buy stocks, Buy high and sell low!

>> No.70851802

>>70850026
JP are concerned that if it's true their oshies are in a very bad place, no real fan would like their oshi to stay in this black corpo, better go indie than this.

>> No.70851865

>>70851717
Ok, unironically would inflate the price actually cause any damage or help them?

>> No.70851864

>>70849934
>"In simple terms: Increased volatility during a period of decline. It's a gambit to try and turn things around but if things stay as they are it will accelerate their decline."
>"Cynically, they're hoping this will increase the value of their stocks in the short term so they can leverage that stock on loans with which they can then buy other stocks (or possibly kickstart a new business venture entirely) and then use the profits off that to cover the loans while their stock continues on a decline. They also have a lot of stock on their hands that they will want to turn to liquidity given how poorly the stock is performing, but selling right now means their stocks would drop even further (displays low trust in their own business, the opposite of what they hoped to achieve with the now failed stock buyback)."
We need a stock bro to gave us real insight.

>> No.70851917

>>70845414

Luknights know. They followed their Princess to the better place

>> No.70851921

>>70851865
If Riku wants to cash out, you'll help him out

>> No.70851940

>>70851472
>being anti-Niji in general
That is basically everyone right now aside from NDF sisters.

>> No.70851944

>>70850298
>Less organs, less support staff.
But they don't have staff tho? they can't cut costs because they don't invest for shit, the stocks are not the only thing that stagnated for this corpo.

>> No.70851952

>>70851864
Not really useful if none of us own stocks. Man I wish there could be something we can do, this is literally a crooked market supporting a black company that is this close from actually feeling it and either change or free people from it's mess.

>> No.70851980

>>70850026
That is not what I am reading. Can you provide some screens of this? Or a link?

>> No.70852007

>>70851921
Feels like if it goes too high, he might not. After all, he's trying to float it too with the 3D announcement. Maybe he hopes for it to go so high that it will counter the loss? Is it even possible, I though the buyback had completely failed since they opened speculation at 3100.

>> No.70852097

>>70850723
Its quite hilarious in comparison, one looks like a real company and the other looks like a WSB bro.

>> No.70852129

>>70845270
/thread

>> No.70852157

>>70851952
At the end of the day a business has to profitable. It has to be able to shift merch, generate ad revenue, be attractive to sponsors. THe stock could go through the roof but if the business isn;t earning it means jack shit. Also understand the stock is on steroids right now. Buyback and margin loan issuance in the space of 6 months is not a good sign
>>70851944
We know they have a few $7/hr monkeys. $7p/hr is still $7/hr.

>> No.70852223

>>70852007
If he believes he can turn around this whole thing yes. IIRC he's a kid born in wealth with a history of making companies and cashing out (source: other anons). I don't care to check if it's true, but I don't have high hopes if it is

>> No.70852236

>>70852157
Well, the shills still exists unfortunately. Although it does seem to look Q3 is gonna be less than promised and there are not good predictions Q4.

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>>70850516
>>70850171
>>70850723
>Cover: 146B market cap
Anycolor: 207B market cap
Keep seething. Even with the EN shitshow they cannot surpass them. Instead they are being brought down together kek.

>> No.70852245

>>70851865
It would help Riku to cashout, and sisters would help their beloved company, so win-win?

>> No.70852365

>>70852245
I know there is no guarantee the next guy is not gonna be worse, but I do sure hope Riku leaves. It may be the only way to finally get someone who cares.

>> No.70852373

>>70852240
>thinking market cap is the point here
Nice anon, keep remaining ignorant while telling other people they are seething. That is a neat trick for when you want the adults to laugh at you.

>> No.70852476

>>70847891
Wtf
My less than 2k subs oshi can pull half a finana per stream. What is finana doing?

>> No.70852506

>>70852223
For those who care to check, here's his interview where he mentions the 4 previous ventures he cashed out on and his mindset ("lazy", looks for trends that can pay off short-term).

https://careerhack.en-japan.com/report/detail/971
https://careerhack-en--japan-com.translate.goog/report/detail/971?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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>>70852157
>We know they have a few $7/hr monkeys. $7p/hr is still $7/hr.
How can niji talents have free monkeys but Peko has to buy her own, Niji>Cover.

>> No.70852580

>>70852476
She has a lot of dead subs at this point. My understanding is that she stopped caring about making her content interesting, and just went for farming what she felt like. This kills the audience's interest.

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70852665

>>70852532
At least Pekora will get to keep her monkey, and her playbutton. If she had been under an AnyColor contract? well picrel

>> No.70852683

>>70852532
But can Pekora's monkey wear a suit?

>> No.70852732

>>70852240
>Instead they are being brought down together kek.
A stable company won't go down by a fuck up from the retarded rival, hell you could UNO reverse this into positive PR for your corpo, "We now niggersanji are literal slave owners so look how we pamper our livers" trust increased and your rival goes down in flames at the same time.

>> No.70852798

>>70852476
>What is finana doing?
when you look at her past it's understandable.

>> No.70852834
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70852834

Good point.

>> No.70852839

>>70852240
>the bigger number better
>quantity over quality
Typical Nijilogic

>> No.70852909
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70852909

>>70852476

>> No.70852917
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>>70852732
>>70852839
Ok. Call me back when Cover's stock starts going back up. Just two more weeks.

>> No.70852954

>>70852476
The real question here is who is this <2K sub oshi of yours and how the hell are they pulling 3views?

>> No.70853050

>>70845414
This is just the dramafag side of the Japanese side that doesn’t even watch vtubers though, so basically like this board

>> No.70853109

>>70852954
NTA, but if you look at Idol they have a VERY high CCV to subscriber ratio. I think Hololive and Nijisanji might distort the view of CCV-per-sub.

>> No.70853145

>>70852909
Wait, she banned the word Futa too? For the same reasoning as trap? Must have been the Ocean Law fanart. Guise, I think she might have bullied Selen too for dicking too much in the fanart.

>> No.70853174

>>70851864
>"This is a pretty normal follow-up to something like a stock buyback. A stock buyback reduces the amount of available stock for trading and artificially boosts the value, following it up with this increases the amount of trading with the reduced stock and further boosts the value, the company then releases (or leverages) the stock they bought back earlier for a good chunk of profit."
>"What went wrong here is that their stock value from the buyback imploded before they could do this, and before they sold, so the first step is a complete bust and they're more or less forced to still take the second step as there is no real point in them owning so much of their own stock unless their company is set to grow, which it isn't. They're going to be pretty desperately hoping to be able to sell their stocks before they're forced to sell at a loss and so they're trying to boost the attractiveness of their stock as much as possible as soon as possible."

>> No.70853187

>>70853050
AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES NIJINIGGERS TELL THEMSELVES

>> No.70853212

>>70853187
It’s true tho

>> No.70853214

>>70850026
They don't have the context of Sayu's silencing contract, yet, which is 100% real and retroactively confirms at least the partial veracity of this contract. The silencing contract refers back to clauses in this one and uses the same terms, which means this can't be entirely fabricated.
Wait until this youtube channel translates that part to them too.

>> No.70853256

>>70853145
If you want to go down the rabbit hole >>70242382.

>> No.70853424

>>70847700
It's just fun to say Finanas, I don't think it would've caught in with Eliras or Ennas.

>> No.70853445

>>70845414
It's going to take more than just a dubious document which people doubt it's true even in a dramafag video to shake the trust of Niji fans in Japan. The only parallel you could make to the EN situation is Mito herself getting terminated and shitting on Niji afterwards and we know that's never going to happen because she isn't a mentally ill BPD retard like Selen.

>> No.70853479

>>70848159
this is so fucking funny holy shit
I'd delete my account and start over if this was me

>> No.70853530

>>70853424
>Elira "I am management", queen bee, blacked memes
>Enna destroyed by a fucking piece of paper
They each have their own memes now, Finana unit is funny that's why it stayed.

>> No.70853546

>>70850452
kek

>> No.70853547

>>70846581
turd worlders think this is an acceptable contract no wonder their countries suck dick

>> No.70853585

>>70852476
Actively alienating her audience

>> No.70853686

sad ndf preparing for the investor meeting cope

>> No.70853778

>>70847868
your next Jollibee shift is starting you can't afford to be late or you are getting fired this time

>> No.70853786

>>70853424
The the others require more insightful but spiteful memes, but it's just funny to say 3 Finanas.

>> No.70853882

>>70845147
これはおいしい食べ物です w

>> No.70853956
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70853956

>>70853174
>They're going to be pretty desperately hoping to be able to sell their stocks before they're forced to sell at a loss and so they're trying to boost the attractiveness of their stock as much as possible as soon as possible."
The next few days will be interesting.

>> No.70854041

>>70849638
So how much is one finana again? 300?

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70854064

>>70852917
The problem when you start cherry picking is you get exposed easily. If you're after pump and dump, Anycolor, just like it's livers - are the choice. If you want long term stability and growth you pick cover.
The problem Anycolor has - if you look at financials as any investor should do, is there's no re-investment. Even if they were to start reinvesting today it'll take at least 6 months more likely 12-18 months for it to get off the ground for anything significant. Financing, Planning, permits all take time.

>> No.70854066

>Nijiniggers BTFO'd again

>> No.70854171

>>70854064
>muh max
Tell me who has the higher market cap again. Also neither Cover or Anycolor's price started at that. Google didn't catch it.

>> No.70854363

>>70846581
This whole Nijisanji thing has let me understand a little better why NTR works are so popular over there.

>> No.70854391

>thread about niji contract
>all you fags are arguing about is boring stock shit
I guess you already got bored

>> No.70854422

>>70854064
The fuck is this dishonest graph shit. You have to show % because the raw numbers (as displayed in the bottom) clearly show Anycolor is doing better. 3.2k > 2.3k.

>> No.70854451

>>70854363
In a society where honor is enforced to the point of ritual suicide, casual betrayal must seem pretty spicy.

>> No.70854542
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70854542

>>70854422
No. You're an idiot too. Market cap is the main number you should be paying attention to. Price is not as important.

>> No.70854549

>>70854422
>Anycolor is doing better.
Roru, rumao even.

>> No.70854556

Kinda telling where NDF sisters come from when their most active hour are during canadian and SEA hour

>> No.70854584

>>70854171
>>70854422
And this is why you're poor SEA nijisisters, literally sell your pussies in OF instead of being here.

>> No.70854585

>>70854422
Because the share price is pointless by itself. The graph shows growth which is a better indicator for long term investment. You also don't see anycolor having burned $200 million in buybacks in the last month just to keep the price afloat.

>> No.70854603 [DELETED] 

>>70849833
Yes you are delusional
Kwab Holobronies Holofaggots kekaroo.>>70854066
>MAXIMUM KWAB Hololive.
Unicorns are cum eating cuckolds.

>> No.70854646

>>70854556
>canadian
Ah shit does that mean that we’re not only dealing with flips but sensitive white girls as well?

>> No.70854661

>>70846750
>she was treated like a prostitute who would be cut off if she caused a problem
Finding this hot makes me feel uncomfortable

>> No.70854718

>>70854646
NDF is sensitive white girls, look at this post and tell me how in the fuck a rational human being managed to write this? >>70854603

>> No.70854759

>>70854718
That’s a bot

>> No.70854901

>>70845147
Would the Japanese even care? Aren’t contracts really predatory there.

>> No.70854938

>>70854759
You are sea people. Bot hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahah
ha .>kwab Hololive.

>> No.70854980

>>70854938
Based and redpilled NijiGODS always win baybeeeeeee.

>> No.70855011

>>70854759
That makes it even worse then

>> No.70855115

>>70854938
Test
Bot

>> No.70855180

Sometimes I wonder, is NijiJP really better than NijiEN? Where are the proof they have better contracts and treatment, especially for the recent waves?

>> No.70855228
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70855228

>Japan a country known for incredibly exploitative work practices, unfair workplaces and having multiple companies exposed over the last few years bringing worldwide condemnation.
>Contract proving Nijisanji is just another one of these companies comes out and people say it's unbelievable or in this case good.

>> No.70855263

>>70855228
The same as Hololive.

>> No.70855299

>>70855263
>no proof

>> No.70855317

>>70855180
they probably renegotiate the contract on a case by case basis, if they are popular vtubers bringing the cash. The rest get the standard contract.

>> No.70855446

>>70855180
the only benefits i see to being nijiJP are benefits inherent to being locationally nip themselves, such as immediate access to communication and easier access to facilities

>> No.70855519

>>70854938
Literally need to be as equally retarded to understand paki chan...

>> No.70855532

>>70855180
They get better contacts. Not contracts, not to say if they do or don't, but contacts by virtue of being a Japanese person in a Japanese company that knows everyone. Songwriters, artists, streamers, so on and so forth.
The contract is... not really okay in the context of a Japanese citizen, but it at least makes significantly more sense.

>> No.70855615
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70855615

>>70855263
Like clockwork.

>> No.70855667

Half of the anons in this site are bots and nobody notices

Source: I'm a bot

>> No.70855692

>>70850516
>>70850171
>77% vs 0.77% growth
It's like poetry.

>> No.70855809

>>70855692
>146B mkt cap vs 207B mkt cap
Just two more weeks until Cuckver surpasses Anycolor's market cap!

>> No.70855830

>>70850328
Google adjusts their charts for splits.

>> No.70855987

>>70854901
They do care. Many Japanese users in comment section said this contract is really bad and worse than anyone expected.

>> No.70856114

>>70845147
Don't care. Fire and blacklist them all and pretend they never happened. The sooner, the better.

>> No.70856137

>>70855180
The contracts LM covered were clearly translated from Japanese ("distribution" instead of "streaming" LMAO) which means Niji JP contracts are at least very similar if not exact same. Notice how the EN contract doesn't refer to any location except Japan and Tokyo. (this also means the contracts are oppressive for Niji JPs who live outside of Tokyo)

>> No.70856157

>>70845404
>anycolor has deep connections
>they have their people at youtube
>suppress anti niji sentiments in the youtube algo so that it doesnt spread
>tell your defense squad to ridicule how little views those vids get and how insignificant the drama is
>profit
Swamp of corruption. Sasuga blackcolor.

>> No.70856184

>>70855809
mkt cap is the CCV of the financial markets, not a good indicator of healthy grow and easily manipulated if you know how to fix your annual reports.

>> No.70856312

>>70845712
sauce onegai

>> No.70856385

>>70854363
Those two are indeed connected but i dont think you truly (((understand)))

>> No.70856446

>>70855180
>When it's convenient for them you're treated as an indie, when it's not you're treated as part of a company...
>*sigh* I'm so tired of this

-Chihiro since years ago

>> No.70856449

>>70856312
here >>68057673

>> No.70856570

>>70847499
Kek is this why nijis cant play the game? Hits too close to home for management?

>> No.70856608

>>70855615
Based and redpilled NijiGODS always win baybeeeeeee. All people am here are jannies trannies
>Maximum kwab Hololive.
Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha. Really tired of trannies jannies mods. In here in being banned always like is Reddit infested shithole. Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha. Seaniggers schizophrenia people from Indonesia and Philippines.must ACK
Kwab Holobronies.>>70855809
>>70855987
>>70856385

>> No.70856642

>muh market cap
literally just kike numberfagging that only benefits the executives that are treating all their employees like shit.

>> No.70856681

>>70845414
lol

>> No.70856721

>>70856642
But numbertrannies are so intelligent
/vt/ says that.

>> No.70856756

>>70847868
post ONE, bitch.

>> No.70856762

>>70846401
america gave japan the freedom needed to make anime though
along with a healthy dose of two nukes

>> No.70856789

>>70845147
even if this isn't much in the long run niji fucked up opening an EN branch. EN isn't just one country like ID and KR where shit can stay contained. English is spoken and understood by a wide range of people all over the world through cultural osmosis and having the EN branch burn down through bullying and mismanagement the same way as the other branches is going to cause a bigger splash that will eventually leak back home in one way or another.

>> No.70856809

>>70856608
>they've literally just resorted to this now
Kek

>> No.70856827

>>70856762
And America is bitch of Jews and British.

>> No.70856833

>>70856642
It's extra funny too because it's not even good numberfagging, the stocks are exploding because of margin trading being a thing now.
No fucking shit they're going to go up because people aren't actually buying full priced stocks, and if it ever drops below the price a majority of margin traders are buying it at, it'll sink like an anchor.

>> No.70856874

>>70856827
and?
>>70845270
was still right

>> No.70856891

>>70856809
Shut up ESL.

>> No.70857018

>NDF plays along and trolls their own talents when NijiEN are in the crosshairs.
>NDF freaks out and goes into overdrive when their beloved JP overlords and their cringe JP branch get directly threatened.
Naruhodo

>> No.70857104

>>70856681
>deleted
kek

>> No.70857150

>>70854542
You are retarded, market cap is just the count of shares multiplied by the current price per share and the market is inefficient. All it really tells you is the size of the company itself hypothetically if things were being properly priced in by investors.
Let's divide market cap by their cash cows, their streamers to get a grasp on productivity.
Anycolor market cap 207.17b, count of streamers 174. ~1.19b per streamer.
Cover market cap146.64b, count of streamers 75. ~1.95b per streamer.
And all of that completely ignores how much money the companies are reinvesting into other revenue streams adding to how efficiently they're managing their growth and future returns.

>> No.70857164

>>70856891
Tell me what's ESL about my post? You can't because it's my first language whereas yours is fucking urdu or some shit.

>> No.70857165

>>70856762
Who were the Japanesed freed from, remind us?

>> No.70857220

>>70856756
>couldn't post ONE comment in the time it took me to scroll down
Grim...

>> No.70857584

>>70857165
imperial japan

>> No.70857614

>>70857150
>ratiocope
Kek. Do Cuckver shills really.

>> No.70857714

>>70846581
Look what happened with Mikeneko fans. They never change until it explodes in their faces, and even so.

>> No.70857984

>>70857584
You need to be above 18 to post here.

>> No.70858241

>>70857984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0cR_33PLGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0cR_33PLGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0cR_33PLGI
lol

>> No.70858908

>>70848698
>They prey on the fact they hire 20yos who never had a big job before and have no knowledge of law.
You think they actually wait for them to graduate high school?

>> No.70859051

>>70846581
damn japs sure love getting rough hatefucked by corpos huh...

>> No.70859453

>>70858908
It's not "wait". Most of applicants are around that age, simple as that. Also I never said anything about high schoolers one way or another.

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