/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Bump I want people to see this. Avoid this corpo if you have any sympathy for girls like Selen or V-dere girls that were screwed over by a black JP (pattern is emerging) company that just hires girls and throws them behind the screen to make them money.

>>70837303
I tried to warn them after Nami showed up on Elira's birthday stream.

>>70837303
>Even Nene set up boundaries
"Avoid these women, they have boundaries" is self-parody levels of hilarious

>>70840214
I mean she is providing GFE while saying hey don't get the wrong idea here I'm not your girlfriend. And that boundary goes back and forth depending on how much money she needs.

This is why I refuse to watch any chuuba that isnt ok with me sending cum tributes in maros. I want them to know my dedication and be happy about it.

>>70840595
Serafi...

>>70840863
I think Kattarina from idol project would also be ok with it. Nyaru as well.

>>70840595
Any woman that isn't happy to receive your cum tributes is not a woman worth oshi-ing.
Unless she's a pure innocent virgin in which case don't you dare taint her.
Whores that market on getting you off but aren't happy you get off to them are the worst.

>>70837303
>their gen 3 that walked out
people with spine? in corpo vtubing???

>>70841192
>Unless she's a pure innocent virgin in which case don't you dare taint her.
I would never. Actual pure girls should be protected. I would only masturbate to my oshi if she gives consent.

>>70840595
>>70841192
i swear you "people" have to be part of some failed sterilization plan

>>70841595
Yes I am mentally ill for wanting to find an oshi that appreciates me instead of some fake whore that only cares about my money.

Feminist and/or tranny hands typed this.

>>70837303
>NijiEN reject colony
So they're good people? Cool, I'll check out more of them. I already like Tomoe Carmine.

ephemira looks like a step in a direction away from CGDCT/GFE and more into just general vtubing. One of their models has sticks for legs and an unremarkable chest in favor of something more artsy, an antithesis to PK's usual direction.

>>70840497
No. The boundary is not to show up at her house or imitate the Bjork stalker. More than fair.

>>70841775
why would you even look for validation from e-girls if you weren't mentally ill?
buy a fucking hooker if you're so lonely. hell, hand me your paypal. ill send you $500 for a good night

>>70837303
>Even Nene set up boundaries and said how the marriage thing is a joke
No... not Nene too...

>>70843106
I hate that I feel the need to clarify but catalogfags take posts as gospel if not corrected.
Yes, she did break kayfabe a little because a known schizo was too serious about the marriage bit. But she didn't call it a joke or insult her fans. She toed the line and said that it was virtual. Basically to not start filing her as your legal wife on your taxes.

>>70837303
I checked out their new gen and I like all the girls they got (the ones in my timezone anyway). Don't really care about any of that stupid shit you typed.

>>70837303
reddit spacing, didnt read

keep your schizo shit on their thread and kys

Not very pog-coded of you.

mucho texto

>>70838511
How were they screwed over? The company let them leave mid contract, that doesn't sound like black company shit.

>>70837303
discord groomers seething because they cant goom anymore heh

>>70841894
Culture Entertainment bought the out. That happened with some other small corpos too. They completely change the direction to whatever they feel like it. Prism debuted a male gen. They flopped so hard that 2 of their males quit and a lot of people stopped watching their girls because of it.

>>70841894
They are always more CGDCT more than gfe and the new ge. Push it further into CGDCT

>>70841309
>got 70k in donothon
>walked out and didn't fufil most goals
>insisted they loved the company (to their coleagues, not just chat)
>Suddenly leave on a 1 week notice.
I agree, you gotta be courageous to pull off such a bold face betrayal LMAO

>>70841894
And another one has giant mommy milkers with a toggle to show them off

>>70843648
>Obvious NDF sister damage controlling because Nami is friends with Elira

>>70841894
None of that makes her not CGDCT, she even said she did some fanservice in her debut voice packs, the one you could argue about is Nova because she may be a grifter.

>>70841894
>>70843999
Tomoe was created because Kinoshita liked the Demon slayer movie and wanted a train themed vtuber. Your theory of culture coming in and changing shit falls apart at this fact.

>>70844117
They did it 2 days before Shee's own bday donothon, ruining the mood for the whole event.
Shee is the sweetest girl in kawaii. She always be nice to them, always tries to reach out to them and tries to promote them. I will never forgive them for making shee cry

>>70844201
Reminder that one of the new gen girl was a former nijiID who was very vocal about criticizing the branch when she was on her way out. Try to find new narrative next time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJk-rzI9FH8
Kawaiifags don't look...

>>70844226
Anon...everyone does fan service in their voicepacks. The goal is to sell them. Even holo girls that want nothing to do with GFE do it (like Bae) and even Kronii to an extent.

>>70841595
Seething femanon.
Receiving a tribute is high praise.

>>70844271
The timing was supposedly controlled by management, so that probably who you should be angry at.

>>70844435
I bet she seethes that her thread can't live even on her birthday.

>>70844388
Yeah but 2 others tried to get into Niji EN multiple times and failed.

>>70844435
With how much you fags shilled her on other generals i expected her to be good but she is boring as fuck, good money tho

>>70844545
>management did it to intentionally hurt the income from a donothon that partially go to them.
Sure.
It's not like gen 3 also came together to push for a streaming strike for week prior the graduation already and left a lot of fans confused and uneasy.

>>70844566
i really doubt she cares

>>70844566
She has her own discord full of yes-men. Why would she want a thread on /vt/ full of anti schizos. She is giga sensitive and was actually hurt by pure for fun schizo posting in /pkg/. A lot of these girls don't know how 4chan works apparently and want a hugbox community.

>>70844584
A tons of indies applied for Niji. That doesn't mean anything.

>>70844584
How would you know?
Do you have their Niji application?

>>70844545
STOP LYING, management begged them to stay, they were on strike and stopped streaming on their own, they demanded to be let go as quick as possible.

>>70844545
Doesn't make sense, they precipitated the whole thing.

Selen fans might be the worst fanbase ive ever come across. You guys just wont shut the fuck up ever and make every forum for vtuber unusable with your spam. Not everyone cares about your nijishit drama.

>>70844821
>black corpo bootlicker fanbase
>management hires nijiEN fans
not beating the allegations

>>70844653
>>70844821
I though /pkg/ used to be bad in the past, but now just rewrite reality.

>>70845408
The streaming strike is as real as it get.
Sava vague post straight on twitter then the whole gen 3 cancelled most of their stream scheduled that week.
Idk what else can make it more clear

>>70845408
It is a fact that gen 3 was working on their new model as early as march 28th. They wanted out and out very fast.

>>70837303
based and true
dont believe namis lies

>>70845488
>>70845521
>management does nothing and takes 50%
>vtuber realizes she can do better as indie
As people said, women with a spine. Small corpos are garbage and will unironically phase out anyway, the future is streaming groups and middle-big corpos like Phase and Holo.

>>70845783
Strong-arming a small company out of thousands of dollars by breaking a contract you signed when they are vulnerable sure is some spine

>>70837303
Kawaii is definitely better than your favourite agency phase connect. You've completed your daily shit post, now go collect your payment from the fish guy

>>70845890
It's funny because kawaii has fairly good relationship with phase.
The only corpo kawaii kinda tiptoe around a bit is idol (though hmz has good relationship with some idol girls anyway, perhaps due to PL connections)

>>70845783
gen 3 got a decent amount of exposure, decent models and became instant 3views by joining kawaii. let's not pretend kawaii gave them nothing. they just realized they could do better keeping 100% of the money their newly acquired paypigs give them if they took them and left the company, I'm not going call kawaii black for it

>>70845890
phase (except the bad ones) are kawaii friends

>>70846101
kawaii has a good history of providing things they promise to girls if they stick around such as new outfits, 3d, and concerts, which many vtubers wish for.
The only flaw of kawaii is them taking a bit of time before investing in digital promotion BUT honestly, digital promotion is a bit a hit or miss in the first place. Tons of indies/corpo throw around ads without getting results as well.

>>70846342
I think the another big downside of kawaii is their slightly stricter streaming and content guideline compared to other small corpo (but not even as strict as big corpo). It's not really a hidden as well and the girls openly talk about what they can or cannot do when the questions are brought up on stream. I think gen 3 got upset with those restriction as well

>>70846506
Yes, Aletta was upset that she got lambasted for having a nijimale in her chat and that she couldn't collab with him.

>>70845874
>>70846101
Nene seething, go delete some vods to feel better lmao

>>70837303
You lost enjoy irrelevancy

>>70845488
They cancelled the streams for that day, theories about the rest of the week are rrats.

I don't trust Elia anymore but kawaii is a black company.

>>70837303
Reddit spacing, opinion discarded.

>>70845874
How come you know the details of the contract, do you work for them?

>>70846101
Miryu and Peony weren't 3views...

>>70847498
Miryu got to 3 views near the end before she left kawaii.
Peony took a tons of time to get going because she never streamed prior joining kawaii
Early Peony was kinda painful due to how scuffed they were.

>>70837303
You can throw around buzzwords as much as you like. I only care if they're entertaining and so far the newest gen is mogging HoloEN by a wide margin. I know that's not saying much but it is what it is.

>>70846506
>no male collabs outside of big group collabs
>don't act like a complete trashy whore on stream and be family friendly
really? that is too much for the average western vtuber? wow...

>>70848089
>I only care if they're entertaining and so far the newest gen is mogging HoloEN by a wide margin
Yeah that is why they barely had 200 ccv and Fauna hit 14k...because she was not entertaining. Kawaii Niji defense force is hilarious.

>>70844566
She's drying her tears with 25 large

>>70846506
>>70848358
Weird, V-Dere acts similarly, just with less swearing. It's almost like the problem was elsewhere.

>>70848358
I think they have restrictions such as no interaction with NSFW arts on official company account (but they can have NSFW skeb to certain degree in member art folder). There also a level of modesty allowed/required in the content. For example, nene and Lua have to negotiate with management about how much lewdness is allowed on the new outfit design, etc,...

>>70848601
Sava made her new model much more lewd and also push for more racy contents after she left kawaii though

>>70843347
can you blame her seeing the absolute schizo cloudtomos in her chat? every time i watch a nene vod there's at least 3 people constantly confessing their undying love and saying they'd kill their entire families for nene

since you're all here, watch our Ame at home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt6mdzJz2ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt6mdzJz2ok

>>70848444
The Hololive brand is doing all the heavy lifting for them. Remind me again what did their numbers look like before the blue dorito?

damn, kawaii inclined enough to get catalog bait?

Dogshit corpo. New gen is full of turbo west coast trannies from twitch.

>>70848660
>nene and Lua have to negotiate with management about how much lewdness is allowed on the new outfit design

THEY LITERALLY SPAMMED THE MOST WHORISH THUMBNAILS FOR MONTHS AND NENE SAID IT WAS THE MANAGEMENTS IDEA!!!

Also their new outfits are way sluttier than what Niji EN girls got even with the boob buff. Your story makes no sense.

>>70849950
how new r u? We get schizo catalogfagging all the time

>>70850449
These can be true at the same time as management having Japanese autism over not allowing Nene to have a slutty leotard

>>70849614
Mumei had 1 million subs and around 700-800 ccv depending on the stream. She would never be as big as she is today but even before the blue dorito she had way more ccv than any kawaii girl in the history of your company, not counting lazy ASMR slop content.

Btw I like how you say blye dorito does the heavy lifting, but your company was founded on the base of blue doritos popularity because the owner saw the potential. And EVEN with the vtuber hype that hololive created on the EN side, your girls couldn't break through and are still mostly 2view shitters? Grim.

>>70850449
The girls straight up talk about it on stream all the time. .
Niji EN outfits themselves also aren't really "slutty", especially compared to overall EN standard.

>>70850538
I think nene said leotard is the compromise to having lewd panties exposed

majority in this thread don't actually watch kawaii and it's obvious, people are literally pushing threadreader rrats

>>70849950
holy newfriend

>>70850699
You can't disprove anything from this thread so you just deflect with "threadreaders". Nami is Elira's friend, she went to her bday totsu, she liked her twitter post AFTER the Doki/Selen drama confirming that they are still on good terms.
Nami said that Miryu lead the charge of gen 3 out of the company when it is blatantly false. Curiously, that part never got leaked out of her membership while many other things did.

Enjoy your niji reject gen and male collab beggars as fans.

I think Kohaku and Nova are pretty cute

>>70850971
Nami never said miryu lead the charge
She vaguely hint that she was one of the two who really wanted to leave no matter what.

Kawaiis new gen and the fans that they brought with them is Luxiem tier of being fanatical. They are screeching that every other thing is "antiing". They don't even understand what funposting is on /vt/. Cringe and grim.

>>70851858
Reddit-coded fans heh.

>>70851858
Actually its the older fans who have seen /pkg/ used as a dumping ground for over a year now. The absolute state of it was such that the right shitpost would ignite firestorms that did impact streams. That's why they're so cautious.

>>70851858
O yea, this is definitely the "fun posting" thread, not the most blatant anti thread.

>>70851971
There's being cautious and then there's calling people incels left and right just because they joke about one of the girls LIDERALLY being their wife.
>>70851918
True. They are twitch-coded garbage.

>>70852093
The people who bring up "incels" ARE the threadshitters, dumb ass

>>70851602
He is a thread reader
Everything in the OP is stuff he read on /pkg/ that antis like to spin when they're bored

I'm just here for cute girls and karaoke

>>70852623
NOOOO YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SHITPOST

I wish every v-dere girl everything bad in life. Sadly life is unfair and backstabbers usually get rewarded.

>>70850618
>Mumei had 1 million subs and around 700-800 ccv
Ah yes, dead subs. Truly the mark of a great vtuber.

>>70849050
Wait this Ame isn't a bitch

>>70852832
This but unironically
>>70852961
Based Mega Gamer.
>>70854027
I think it was mostly due to her singing. Or do you expect 500.000 ccv with those subs? Not even Pewdiepie managed to pull that off. Dumbass.

>>70845890
Both are the same cuck companies. The difference is one is a black JP company the other has to operate under Canadian law. I don't like either but at least one is lawful

Isla Coleman is cute.

>>70854702
who?

>>70854742
She performs in 3D unlike Nijis.

>>70854918
Low quality 3D and nijiEN will be dead soon anyway

>>70837303
Is Production Kawaii the new #2 company?

>>70842272
>hand me your paypal
um no. also hookers are illegal in my country. And sending cum tributes is free