/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Oboretai

muh moneytisation
back in my day we just made videos because we wanted to

I wonder how his writing is coming along.

>>70737260
lol
lamo

>>70736943
Whenever I see a clipper on my feed I unrecommend their channel.
TCD

>THUMBNAILS: barely censored nsfw fanart
>TITLE: KORONE WANTS TO ***SUCK*** OFF HER MALE VIEWERS
>CONTENT: Korone says normal thing that is out of context
>CLIPPERS: Our community is dying why would youtube do this to us

I will never subscribe to a clip channel. I do watch them though.

>>70736943
>Implying clipper dying is a bad thing

>>70737435
this desu senpai

>>70737435
>WATCH AS X DOES SUPER CRAZY THING
>10 minutes long
>the thing is at 9:30 and isn't crazy at all

>>70737260
i want to make fun of this but my autistic ass doesn't want to be grudgeposted when he actually pulls that shit off

>>70736943
Oh I care if the clipping community dies.

Please die faster, you ESL pieces of shit. The ones automating clips with subs taken from audio are even worse than parasites.

At least the guy isn't retarded to blame Cover for making them demonetized and he admitted that Youtube fucked him and the clippers up for it regardless of Cover's stance

But damn son, you are just that, a clipper. If you expect to receive the greens just by splicing a stream and uploading it then you are delusional. Of course you will get tired of clipping if you have that mindset

My advice ? Find a decent job and treat clipping as a hobby. And maybe if you have big enough reputation, Cover can ask you to be their official clipper / translator. No one force you to clip. You are not a minority

>>70737435
And all of the channels that does this are SEA

>>70736943
And that's a good thing

>>70736943
"anybody that watches vods or clips isn't as good as my sperg ass" moment

>>70737435
>>70737514
You guys are just too old. This is what the youth wants as proved by the algorithm .. Its all about supply and demand

EN clipping has been a shitshow. I used to search for "hololive sub eng" for English subs of JP streams. Now I get fucking EN streams clipped and with EN subtitles on it. Who the fuck is this for? Deaf people? Except it's always done by fucking ESL seaniggers so the subs are often fucking wrong.

>>70737653
that doesn't make anybody too old, that makes the youth the problem

Clipping should be done by fans/enthusiasts who want to share moments of their oshi. There should be no money involved or monetization. Lol. If these requirements are not met, then there was never a "community" to begin with.

>>70736943
as soon as the majority of clippers became shameless cashgrab content farms there was no reason to watch any of them
I dont have the time and patience to skim through a huge pile of garbage just to have a chance at watching something mildly entertaining

All they do is lazily clip, poorly translate, subtitle clips with shitty ESL writing, and clickbait. Why should they make money off of someone else's work with zero transformation or commentary?

>>70737662
>Who the fuck is this for? Deaf people?
Ironically deaf people are fucked harder by these clippers given that the subs are not accurate to what's being said. There's at least one misheard word per clip and it's often something so stupid that even an ESL couldn't have gotten it wrong.

>>70736943
good

Physically remove clippers. Send them back to the Nike sweat shop where they belong.

>>70737662
ESL here some girls mumble or don't speak clearly.

>>70736943
I remember when clipping was done as a hobby and highlighting interesting moments of stream.

Now it's just clickbaits after clickbaits.
Other than Yuusha, sasakandayo(he's falling but still not yet there), kazuki, and vtuber bits. Who else are still dedicated on making high tier clips??

>>70738030
>likely replied to the wrong anon
I'm talking about stuff that is extremely clear. You will always find people in the comment section pointing it out. And either way, subs are intended to provide clarity in these situations, so it demands competence.

>>70737541
I'm all for raising the quality of writing in otaku media but
>establish more foreigner influence on the anime industry
is exactly why it's been going downhill in quality and becoming less "anime" in general.
Knowing the type of fag he is, I'd wager his sought-after changes would probably be equally if not more damaging than an average decline in writing quality.

>>70736943
On the one hand clips are a good entrypoint for people to get into certain talent. On the other, 99% of them are SEASLs and Mexicans which is bad.

>>70736943
And that's a good thing!

Its literally clickbait 0 effort content taking over the platform. Nobody needs thousands of the same clip uploaded by people who are trying to milk 5 cents from the adds.
Also 99% of the time its not transformative content, so they are literally just leeching off someone elses work.

>>70736943
I see this as a win

>>70738117 (me)
Flare's cliper is up there too, he recently published free flare contents to help people clip his oshi. Very cool.

>>70737801
Imagine actually doing the work yourself, or double checking instead of just using a free AI subtitle generator instead, and throwing a few popular clips of the day at it.
Just collect the paycheck at the end of the month.

>>70738147
He sounds like someone who just wants to cut out the middleman, and instead of raping content at the localization level, he wants to rape it in the creation phase.

>>70737435
>CHUUBA SAID SOMETHING AND BROKE HER CHAT
instant don't recommend me this channel worthy

>>70738117
Some of the only clips I've ever watched were from uploaders who covered a whole event and attempted to get all the POVs together in an entertaining and digestible form. Even thought I know JP, this was a service that was too convenient to ignore. I wound up watching these clippers even despite their lack of understanding of either language and I hoped that they would get better. Years later they're still crutching on the "me no ESL no undastandu" shit and making the same mistakes. It's all so tiresome.

Here's some good and decent clips channel
Vtuber bits, holojp
Jshay translation, Korone
Major arcana 310, Mio
35p Nakama, Miko
Pekora clips
Noises V, holojp
Hololive cut, jp

>>70736943
>clipping community
kek why do western niggers love "community" so much? is that an amerimutt thing? its nothing but chinky collectivism. ive never heard of it in the jp industry.

>>70736943
Clipper for money lol
Shitty leecher
Do animation lol

>>70738398
What about sushi?

>>70738398
>Major arcana 310
>>>>>blessed [actions]
fuck off

>>70736943
I was planning to eventually try and write a bot that automatically clips and uploads shit based on chat sentiment (emotes, spikes in chat speed, density of SCs, etc), pulls a random thumbnail from sfw sources and creates subtitles with AI + video titles based on the context of those subtitles, but if I can't even buy myself a coffee off of my mass-produced clipslop I'm not doing it.

unironically the best clipper stuff is on twitter where they get no money. that shit is true passion projects

>>70737662
But why is Mumei so thick?

>>70738447
Sushi has declined quite a bit in recent years pulling the same shit that other clippers do like taking moments out of context and passing them off as "yabe" moments or shameless clickbait, long gone are the days where Subaru would watch his clips and comment on them on stream.

>>70738639
simple answer: since covid and streamer life she's been more inactive. gene-wise she's predispositioned to have more of her fat go to her thighs than other parts of her body
for what it's worth, her ass is still not notable

>>70736943
Maybe don't do it for money like a fucking parasite?

>>70738703
Ah I see, that's how it is

>>70736943
>Obotetai
This faggot would watch entire 6-hour long Roberu streams only to clip the one second when Roberu utters the name of female vtuber in his chat. It’s horrible how his clips are what shows up when you search for Roberu’s name on YouTube.

>>70738449
What's the problem?
It's pretty clear that whoever runs that channel doesn't know how to make good thumbnail and just slap giant words on them
Most old clips don't even have thumbnails, just the shits that yt auto generate
And also this

Good.

>>70739421
fuck, forgot the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQPP0HlNlic

>>70739421
I respect the autism from the subber but the blessed spam that gets applied to Mio and Ayame's subs whenever they do anything is overboard. Otherwise yeah I agree they're one of the higher quality subbers out there.

>>70736943
i member when clippers used to do this out of love for their oshi not for the money, fuck these cunts

if they stop 'translating' because they're not getting paid then they are parasites
apply for NEET bux and leech from the goyvernment like everyone else you half assed pieces of shit

>>70736943
lots of anti-clip niggers in this thread

>>70738147
i agree but
foreginer =/= american
euros are making the highest tier animation projects at the moment. french have practically taken over mappa and science saru. madhouse soon to become french animator hub also. we're already going in that direction, though.

Clippers who care about monetization should perish

Never really understood the seething about clippers, I get that some clippers are obviously shitters, but I imagine most of the people here first got exposed to Holo through shit like Miko nigga or Fubuki scatman.

>>70740436
The clippers of 5 years ago are not the clippers of today. It's no longer a wholesome handshake bridging the language barrier. Clippers back then were doing it to share funny moments and the clips happened to circulate really well within an algorithm not yet trained on the industry. Instead, the clippers you see today are doing it entirely for clout and they truly believe they're hot shit and deserve as much revenue as the talents they leech off of. There are very few that are still doing it as a passion project or out of devotion for their oshi.

>>70737653
No, it's what recommendations shove upon my feed and i promptly tell YT to not recommend me that channel again

>>70740692
>The clippers of 5 years ago are not the clippers of today

True, in the sense that some clippers today are piles of dog shit, while some of the clippers years ago were piles of cat shit. People like lyger and jin teramachi were arrogant cunts who never missed a chance in badmouthing fellow clippers ; probably thought Matsuri and Okayu were their girlfriends too. birdkun always included some soppy shit at the end of his clips. A virtue-signalling bastard who also kept self-inserting in his clips because he's an attention whore. And then there were the bugmen who ran hololive moments.

>>70737435
/thread

>>70738161
Its worse than SEA/Mexicans/ESLs, its people using machine translations or AI translations because the faster stuff goes out, the better numbers usually.

>>70740965
lyger may have been a nut but his translations were good.

>>70737653
If the youth is falling for such simple clickbait, we should execute order 66

>>70741177
Not denying his linguistic skills, but he's a narcissistic asshole through and through and tried to gatekeep way too hard. Just a horrible person all around. It's like how enna is a decent singer, but she's still an insufferable bitch. Separating the art from the artist is often difficult.

>>70736943
Adding subtitles and having a cut every 3 seconds doesn't make it fair use and monetizable, chud.

>>70738398
Clippy is good, but he makes a couple of videos a year and thats it

>>70738398
I'd say ShabbySubz for Marine clips
A shame he hasn't uploaded anything recently

The point of clipping was for creating and sharing cute/funny moments of vtubers you enjoy watching. Now that money got involved it's about who clips the fastest with the best clickbait. Fucking faggots

>>70736943
Clippers provide an invaluable service and they helped us kill the nijis. Clippers should be treated with respect.

>>70741691
No way fag.

>>70736943
>just dont care

>>70737653
No, it makes the youth boomers. They allow an algorhitm to decide for them what to watch, just like television does for boomers.

Clips are crucial to the growth of the vtuber industry. Almost everyone (90%) discovered vtubers through clips. Killing clippers is killing the entire industry.

>>70736943
Youtube BROKE clickbaiting SEA clippers with this!

>>70742118
>Killing clippers is killing the entire industry
Good
The clipping industry doesn't deserve to live

Get a real job

>>70736943
>no monetization
Nigger, you are taking someone else's content and cut it down, maybe add some ESL subtitles and call it a day. You shouldn't get money for it. All these censored clips out there because these braindead niggers want to cash in on someone else's streams

>>70742231
Im talking about vtubers you dumb sister

>>70742291
>he still believes clippers are providing a beneficial service
>calls others sister
okay nijifaggot you have one paragraph, regale me on the benefits of clippers in the current day.

>>70736943
da wose

I miss shabby

clips are for catbox

>>70736943
>>70737435
I see what you're doing here marxist fashist. You're trying to excuse killing clippers so that you dont feel bad about shadowbanning them. But it's still evil. Clippers have rights too you know? Stop harrassing them sis.

>Vtuber broke chat with this
>Chat broke vtuber with this
>Vtuber broke vtuber with this
For every good clipper there's 50 lazy fucks who just spam clips with one line out of context and then show chat going "AYO?" "HUH" "WTF"

>>70736943
I report all clips that clip bait as using copyrighted material. I enjoy checking on my reports to see demonetizations and/or removal.

Clips used to be fun in 2020

>>70742631
The worst are people who clip EN and pull this shit. It's especially bad with people who clip Nerissa.
Straight up worthless clippers who take attention away from the Vtubers. Nobody will want to watch them if there's some asshole who condenses 5+ hours of streamtime into 2-3 minute clips.

>>70742363
There is no discoverability for vtubers if there are no clips getting recommended to new people. It stagnates the growth which you can see:
Look at the sub growth since youtube started killing clippers. It's abysmal. Also their vod views and ccv has been stagnant.

>>70742681
Because they were made by people who genuinely wanted to share this weird new thing that many people couldn't get into because it was all in Japanese.
As opposed to now where you simply have to search for """"clipworthy"""" moments, dub them wrong and put a clickbaity title to have at least 10000 views.
With Holos now starting to make their own clips clippers have become a liability

>>70742631
>then show chat going "AYO?" "HUH" "WTF"
this shit is the modern equivalent of canned laughter
we're gonna be old and gray by the time the zoomers of today realize they're being cringe and unbased

>>70736943
>male in thumbnail
Good riddance.

>>70740965
I always liked Osekkai. He seemed like a normal dude, his hard shift to HoloEN content notwithstanding.

>>70739821
Are you having a stroke? No westerner has ever or could ever make anime.

>>70743254
what is atla

>>70736943
if only Neal chargebacked the clickbait channels too. clips as a neutral concept I don't really mind, but what happened was a bunch of third worlders making up shit and wasting peoples' time over and over because they really want to make that like $20 a month in ad revenue.

the clips that people originally didn't mind were mostly for holoJP and they served crucially as translation hubs, actually. pre-EN, unless you could speak Japanese decently then clips were kind of your only real way to even try-to get Hololive. it's why that one Miko GTA clip got so famous, etc. however that's a function totally lost on the modern shit approach, as the clickbait bullshit even is applied to JPs now too. so fuck them, they can all die off and be replaced by people who aren't trying to profit or numberfag or clout chase from it but just are appreciative fans and nothing further.

>>70743351
Exactly. Not anime.

Whatever this is, does it affect actual good clippers like Vtuberbits?, no?, I don't give a damn then.

>>70737435
>>70737514
I simply dislike the videos that do this and move on, sometimes telling youtube "Don't recommend this channel" if they pop up enough with this shit.

>>70736943
meanwhile the clip community is just pic related

>>70736943
>clipniggers who make 1-2mins videos
total death
>clipniggers who make 20-30 mins videos
these are the one who needed help

>>70736943
I don't want them to die

>>70743624
This brand of clipper is already dead, son.
You've got to move on.

>>70736943
>clippers channel gets hit with the "repeating content demonetization"
>immediately stop clipping
holy leeches

>>70737435
based

>>70743678
There will always be someone to take their place

>>70738398
YUSiA .YUUSHA04 makes good compilations

>>70744446
I have been lied to

>>70744446

I hate esl en clippers

Some of them are wholesome

>>70736943
fucking glad they are dying, kind of sad for the 4 channels that really do good translations and put effort into their clips

>>70743160
osekkai's decent if not for his self-inserts, though admittedly not as bad as birdkun. I appreciate good clippers for their effort, but I absolutely don't wish to hear their voices, or see any of their IRL shit. Make the clip 100% about the chuba, or don't bother making one. Same thing with that one Nerissa clipper who does shit like wiping her nose on the screen after she sneezes. It's not funny in the slightest.

>>70736943
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>>70736943
First time I agree with how YouTube runs things.

>>70745397
You might agree but vtubers themselves dont. Clips give them promotion, more views and potential new fans. In the end you lose too.

>>70747284
>t. clipperfag
you are unnecessary and you will be replaced by those who actually give a shit about clipping

>>70736943
What about the official clippers that get paid by corporations to promote the chuubas?

>>70747284
Clippers were around before they started monetizing their shit. Now clippers actually stir up drama and intentionally misrepresent vtubers to get more clicks. So yea, not so sure if the tubers are so into the current clipping scene.

>>70737435
Add typos and complete mistranslations in the subtitles and this is perfect.

>>70748954
Does Hololive have any official clippers?

>>70744647
>Kronii love Fauna did a spank Mumei just enjoyers
Kronii love Fauna did a spank Mumei just enjoyers

>>70736943
Yes, YouTube totally hates clippers and is not because they are unfunny failed normalfags.

>>70744515
35p Nakama is awful, what are you talking about?

>>70737653
lol lmao

>>70742557
They don’t have talent so I don’t care about their rights.

>>70736943
Hololive is healing YouTube...

>>70744647
Kronii love Fauna did a spank just enjoyers

>>70738117

low effort clips
nottheo

>>70742118
Yeah, and after watching their streams found out that 99% of clips are just taken out of context.

>>70736943
Finally, a decision of youtube I can agree with

>>70737435
>FAUNA LOOKS UP MPREG AND IS COMPLETELY SHOCKED BY WHAT SHE SEES
>clip is just someone in chat mentioning it so she tells them to stop
>lots of red arrows pointing to censored porn with blushing Fauna pic
>why does youtube hate us?

Holosimper is the cancer clipper of HoloEN.

>>70737260
He wants to make light novels even worse?

>>70740692
>they'
No you fucking nigger. I used to watch clip before deciding to actually learn JP so that I can finally understand how my oshi boyfriend has been mean to her. Old clips are very shitty too but now because of monetization there has been a lot of high quality subs. I immediately report the shitty sub clippers for terrorism and immediately block their channel

>>70753435
I want to absolutely throttle these people

>>70752373
Youtube is fixing a problem Hololive caused.

>>70736943
Why are so many clippers SEA? There are always mistakes in the subtitles I don't know how anyone could watch them, absolute parasites.

>>70755100
Because you can make enough from clips to survive their.

>>70736943

>>70736943
SEASL ruins everything

>>70738398
gorira makes 10+ minute clips of kanata

>>70747284
>you need to open your borders
>if you dont open your borders Europe will not survive
NOT TODAY JEW
/we/ need to gatekeep harder before we turn into a 3rd world shithole.

>>70740965
>and jin teramachi were arrogant cunts
That was his name. I remembered the guy and how he sperged out over the word "cut" in a clip the word being used is also used within MonHan to refer to cutting off a tail and Jin pitched a fit because, according to him, tails aren't cut off in Monster Hunter but couldn't place his name.

>>70737176
Filtering out for profit would filter out the worst and keep the best from getting comfortable with less. Quality clippers should and some do aim to get properly hired by an agency

>>70736943
React content is more transformative and that's always under fire
It shouldnt be difficult to understand why clips are even less looked at in a good light
Hell some of them are just machine translated lol

>>70736943
I always laugh when one of these clippers pop up crying that theyre not getting paid from posting other people's content

>>70762033
A nerissa clipper just complained and started a new channel that nobody watches. Fuck them. Do it for free out of love and maybe I would care

>>70737662
The subs are automated, its a soft that gets the audio and turns into text.

>>70736943
The fact that there are people who can say "clipping community" with a straight face is already hilarious.

>>70737662
Learn Japanese. Install Anki, get some fucking free cards, and within 10 months youll understand enough to basically follow everyone that speaks slower than Marine.

>>70737260
Kudos to him, I guess, but the way that "About" is written doesn't really inspire confidence.

>>70738398
MelonsodaCH makes some cringe retarded thumbnails and titles but he clips the moment, the chat, the context and never goes overboard with the clip lenght so you get what you want easy

>>70737662
to add the the previous post>>70764851

>>70737435
Yea basically

>>70736943
Good.