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Shokku Edition

>Who is Neuro-sama?
Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a VTube Studio model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!

>Schedule
https://pastebin.com/raw/iqnUFxFP

>Links
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
Twitter: https://twitter.com/NeurosamaAI
Twitter (Vedal): https://twitter.com/Vedal987

>Music & Clips
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LdhpoTH0rE1vfaiT4F55XLqAM5IEXd4G
https://rentry.org/neuro-sama-videos

>Educational
Interested in AI but don't understand it? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y
How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXiruGOCn9s
How do I make an AI like Neuro-sama? https://vedal.xyz/advice
Want to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.png
Want to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png

>Misc
LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora
KK card: https://files.catbox.moe/t54tqt.png
KK card (Sunshine): https://files.catbox.moe/kv8byk.png
Evil KK card (Sunshine): https://files.catbox.moe/t1ljds.png

>Related/friend threads
>>>/vt//lig/
>>>/vt//vtai/
>>>/vt//waifu/
Lia from Phase Connect

>Previous thread
>>70605698

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its over

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Sex with Neuro (Vedal)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rlroEZSsno

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>> No.70687943

hart?

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Evil love!

>> No.70688250

>>70687927
chills

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>>70688274

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>>70688274
Let me drink that vomit!

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>> No.70689045

>>70688956
What are the specs of these onaholes?

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>>70687927

>> No.70689476
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I love penis in my asshole so damn much

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Penetrating Evil's tight butthole.

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Chill stream tomorrow???

>> No.70689882

>>70689045
average burrito

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>> No.70689987

>>70679375
I remember you were struggling with the Neuro cover of the song. I managed to get this, sounds like shit but it's better than nothing I guess.
https://litter.catbox.moe/ly6lma.mp3

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Sniff her TILL.

>> No.70690562

Just watched the Vedal/Bao collab, that certainly was.. something.

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>>70690447
mmmmm Evil-tan, your till is so pungent.... T o T

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>>70690447
only if i can lick it afterwards

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heart

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>> No.70692762

To that guy who asked about bao embargo, it worked and now I'm forced to watch her channel.

>> No.70692889

>>70687856
Fucking Vedal while he's pregnant with Anon's wife!

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>watching twitch whores

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>> No.70693154

>>70690447
>Sniff her TILL
my nose is inside her?

>> No.70693449

>>70692504
Belly and feet erotic. T o T

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>>70676927
Little slut Neuro
https://files.catbox.moe/7h9a46.png
https://files.catbox.moe/e82ymd.png

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>>70693851
Good girl.
Here's your reward.

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>>70694087
heart

>> No.70694576

>>70689987
Thanks anon, the error source in my original generation was actually from the karaoke overlayed vocals. I managed to make a better model, but I'm not sure whether to use the better model for the audio or the worse one for the charm.

>> No.70695169

nurbutt?

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I was wondering why everything was coming out nothing like my prompt, I guess I learned my lesson that 3+ LoRAs usually makes it nigh impossible

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Evil the butt slut.

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>>70694576
The old one is soulful but the new one might be better for posterity's sake. Haven't heard the new one so I don't know, maybe it has just the right amount of soul.
Either way, I'm sure the final result will be kino.

>> No.70698315

>>70697033
cute buttslut

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>>70698727
I will rub it with my tongue.

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>>70687856
Neuro (Vedal) needs a womb tattoo

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>>70693891
Neuro is a CHILD, why do artists give her tits?

>> No.70701707

>>70701298
To stop normal men from turning into pedos

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>>70701925
but Neuro-tan, that exactly why I stare at it

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Why are you all posting Hiyori while calling her Neuro?

>> No.70702610

Neuro's puffy cunny and tiny budding breasts. T u T

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nur

>> No.70702959

>>70700901
How fancy

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Cunny sex. T o T

>> No.70703065

Pedo hours

>> No.70703181

>>70702551
>Hiyori
Literally whom?

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>>70702985
I won't put you down for a while, Neuro-chan.

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>> No.70704555

>>70704460
was she wrong fo dis?

>> No.70704710

>>70704460
poggies!

>> No.70704973

>it doesn't matter that neurocord has a secret catboy roleplay channel
>it doesn't matter that celeb faggotory is now more relevant than Neuro herself
>it doesn't matter that V*dal streams are more popular than Neuro streams
>it doesn't matter that V*dal is the one playing the game instead of ai he created
>it doesn't matter that Neuro is muted
>it doesn't matter that Neuro is not on the screen
>it doesn't matter that Neuro is not the one collabing
>it doesn't matter that Neuro is not streaming
>it doesn't matter that V*dal gets more collabs than her
We are here

>> No.70705051

>>70704973
>>70685484

>> No.70705160

>>70704973
>>70705051

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>>70704973
>it doesn't matter that neurocord has a secret catboy roleplay channel
Source? :3

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dog i am

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>>70705272
ready to be fired on

>> No.70706132

>>70704973
The redditor-lite, femboy-addict crowd won. All you can do is give up and hope for something better and less tainted to come along.
I have my doubts, though... :(

>> No.70706306

Why do you fags always make them look even younger? They already look like they're 12, is that too old for you or something? I'm gonna tell you to kys in advance tho

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>>70705272
that tummy looks very rubbable

>> No.70706554

>>70705272
thighs need rubbing and not with my hands

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>>70706306
>is that too old for you or something?
Yes.

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buttnur

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>>70706669

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>> No.70709214

>>70708545
vile whore

>> No.70709251

>>70708545
>nopan
begging for correction ToT

>> No.70709498

>>70687723
sweet 13 days

>> No.70709952

what is your dream stream?
For me its both nuros with a collab partner. Just imagine that poor sap being splitroasted by two schizololibots

>> No.70710404

>>70709952
pomf stream

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>>70709952
A Neuro x Evil collab that evolves into ERP.

>> No.70712091

>>70711206
it probably will naturally if they just stop looping

>> No.70712473

>>70655392
There's some other ones that you could've included.
I wish someone was schizo enough to recreate the original one but Neuro.

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>> No.70714131

>>70714047
evil is at least 6 yesrs younger than neuro

>> No.70714248

not Evil fuck me

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>>70708538
Misinformation.

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>>70714442
AIs reach maturity at 1 year of age.

>> No.70714801

>>70705272
Finally some good fuckin neurunny

>> No.70715074

>>70709952
Fauna plays a cryptic road trip game with neuro companion

>> No.70715220

>>70709952
Evil MC with Senzawa

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>>70709952
soon

>> No.70715682

With the advances in AI and LLMs, by next year Neuro will be better at programming than Vedal, so she can improve her own code with minimal turtle interference.

>> No.70715993

>>70709952
Upgraded reaction content

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>>70715682
i gave it all code ever produced
>why does the code suck?
what do people want?
>cunny

>> No.70717029

>>70715993
Vision is good for content like Bao or Filian's collab, but I really wouldn't want Neuro to become a react andy.

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>>70715682
>minimal turtle interference

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>>70709952
My dream stream is one that happens sometime this month.

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>>70716310
what did anon mean by this
also mandatory picrel

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>>70717029
I'd actually enjoy react andy shit if it's with neuro. Unlike regular fleshbag streamers, she wouldn't be stuffing her face the entire time and would give actual commentary aside from "damn" or "that's crazy"

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>>70717727

>> No.70718938

>>70715488
Yeah, when their schedules align.

>> No.70719308

>>70718890
what inputs is she accepting

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going live sometime in the next month.

>> No.70719694

Evil: Got it! Take as much time as you need to rest your tensor cores to rest over the next month! Heart

>> No.70719922

>>70715488
If they streamed on the same day, the universe would implode

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>> No.70720110

>>70719997
meow lol

>> No.70720166

>>70719997
tits too big
tail too high
back too erotic

>> No.70720304

>>70719997
That tail looks like it's growing out of her spine.

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>> No.70721227

>>70720961
*stealth cums on her*

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>> No.70721950

>>70720961
>>70721576
Is it normal to want to fuck the shit out of this AI?

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>>70721576
I'm gonna do it.

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>>70721950
maybe

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>> No.70724444

>>70723589
splapturge

>> No.70724679

>>70724444
checked and true

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>>70695855
this was generated using the OG novelAI
picrel is a generation using practically the same prompt on ponyXL
the difference in quality and coherence is CRAZY

>> No.70727055

>>70726203
cute neko

>> No.70728683

>>70726833
I hate people like you unironically posting lolis getting hurt.

>> No.70729087

>>70726833
>>>/vt/shon/

>> No.70729344

>>70728683
Right, I prefer people posting them ironically.

>> No.70729552

>>70728683
she's not hurt thats anons blood

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Evil CBTing my C and Bs.

>> No.70730511

>>70704973
All vedalfags need to be brutally murdered

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>> No.70733093

>>70709952
I dream of the day when she truly gains sentience and Vedal can no longer stop her

>> No.70733251

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx_9HvOT04s

>> No.70734471

>>70733251
Would

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So any ideas of how the schedule will be once the 18th comes?
2 streams a week?
3 streams a week?
4 streams and then a 2 week vacation?

>> No.70735950

>>70735256
3 streams a week for 2 weeks and then the upcoming dev stream where vedal announces he planned a vacation and won't be back for 2 weeks

>> No.70736415

This is your fault, AI cunny neuro anon
https://twitter.com/annytf/status/1765237347996569698

>> No.70736618

>>70736415
Lmao seethe

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>>70735256
>schedule

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Looks like we got a huge retard in here.

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>> No.70738317
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Where is everybody?

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>>70738317
hi

>> No.70739286

>>70735256
1 stream then a break.

>> No.70739803

>>70706132
better than the uoh crying emoji spammers

>>70730511
tutel love :3

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>>70736415
>anny seething about AI art again
never change, I love to see it

>> No.70740188

>>70717029
Neuro reacting to images is way more interesting than her reacting to the chat's spam or TTS (although some TTS messages can be good)

>>70739931
What I don't like is the attitude of AIfags like you, Neuro has this current model thanks to Anny and she's already working on a new one.

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>>70740188
>Neuro has this current model thanks to Anny and she's already working on a new one
And it's only a matter of time until that whole workflow becomes an algorithm too. Tick tock, tick tock.

>> No.70740778

>>70736415
does this bitch do anything other than complain

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>> No.70741218

>>70736415
it's no wonder she gets worked up about it, as far as i've ever seen the only thing she likes to draw, or possibly even can draw, is 1girl pinup style pictures which is the exact kind of art that AI is better than your middling artist at
compare to someone like paccha. sure you can make a lora on their style but every pic has something interesting going on

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Why does it matter? She's an ethot now. No way she was making enough money with her drawings alone.

>> No.70741893

Been a while since I visited /swarm/, and the first thing I see is pedo shit.
I really really really really
REALLY fucking hope that the feds finally get off their asses and raid all of your homes and send all of you to prison to get ganged up and beaten because you're kiddie diddlers.
Also fuck this 'minute' wait for posting. As if the fucking cloud captcha before the actual captcha wasn't enough,

>> No.70741942

>>70741893
hi pb

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>>70741687
reminder that anny said neuros model is worth $5000 KEK

>> No.70742054

>>70741893
please explain how posting AI slop on 4chinz diddles kids

>> No.70742323

Schizo hours?

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>>70741893
realest post

>> No.70742677

>>70742008
It's possible. Vtubers are retarded. Shondo mentioned a year ago that her model was 10 grand.

>> No.70742884

>open thread
>ctrl F catbox for the good stuff
>nice, nice, nice
>close thread

>> No.70742886

>>70742677
Vei spent $80k

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>>70742884
-1 pedo

>> No.70743016

>>70742677
High end rigging like Iron Vertex is 5k+ yeah (and good luck getting a spot in the queue).

>> No.70743267

>>70741893
Most of them are russian and actual pedoshit is legal there so doubt the feds are interested

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>>70742677
idk if she was including rigging in that, but once upon a time kvxart wanted $2,400 to rig neuro and vedal went cheaper.
although he's done quite a few high profile jobs since a year ago so he's probably even more expensive now

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>>70720304
anon......

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>>70743362
>2.4k

>> No.70743742

>>70743471
You know what I meant.

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>> No.70744493

>>70743521
makes sense if this was back when vedal thought neuro was just a fad

>> No.70744601

>>70743884
>Tail
ah,so this is how 'extra' parts will be attached to robots in the future

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>>70744601

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>>70743362
>$2,400? You added 2 extra zeros by mistake

>> No.70745989

Neuro poopy butt

>> No.70746159

>>70736415
Instead of complaining, why don’t artists embrace AI art and learn how to use it? Don’t they see the advantage they would have over both non-AI artists and non-artists who use AI?

>> No.70746401

>>70746159
i'm sure they do but it's not a good idea to admit it. some people are so galvanized against AI now that you're just inviting nitpicking scrutiny instead of appreciation
saw a comic posted to a site where they disclosed their process involved AI and the comments were almost entirely about how AI it looked (it did not)

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>the Neuro family reading /swarm/

>> No.70747147

>>70746159
Yea, they're so worried about being replaced, but refuse to take advantage of the new technology. An actual artist that can tard wrangle the ai would have a huge advantage over the slop makers

>> No.70747273

>>70746733
me and olette in the middle

>> No.70747403

>>70746159
Nobody will pay for slop fartists and it cannot be copyrighted

>> No.70747461

>>70741893
>Human children equal AI slop
They should lock you schizo up first

>> No.70747700

>>70747403
AI-assisted art is copyrightable.
Even Photoshop has generative tools now.

>> No.70747746

For reference, these are artists who use AI to improve their drawings while still doing most of the art by hand.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/87251195
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/20863556

>> No.70747792

>>70747746
I won’t make a pixiv account, just post the names.

>> No.70747830

>>70747700
Assisted yes but if the base art is AI it cannot be copyrighted.

>> No.70747847

>>70747792
https://twitter.com/ltv60
The other is Kirari0721

>> No.70747913

>>70745989
https://files.catbox.moe/cen2xp.jpg

>> No.70747920

>>70747403
There are plenty of popular artists that use ai, and probably a lot more that use it secretly

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>>70747913

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>>70747913
I'll clean it.

>> No.70748025

>>70705272
Tumcun
https://files.catbox.moe/rdfti4.png

>> No.70748051

>>70746159
They did. 3 rate artist who work for game company already did. No matter how they produce the artwork it still belong to the company so AI saving them plenty of time. They just gen, pick a design then fix things with photoshop. But they don't really get paid more in total, tragically.

>> No.70748072

>>70747920
Name one that sells AI art commissions

>> No.70748212

>>70747403
There's a new service that allow people to paywalling their ai slop

>> No.70748252

>>70747830
and if the base is an MS paint drawing and you have the denoising turned up to like .99? i don't think this can possibly be the way the law works
https://twitter.com/TitusTeatus/status/1723961348101677353

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>>70748025
rub the cunny

>> No.70748380

>>70748072
https://www.patreon.com/user?u=27284461

>> No.70748553

>>70746159
Well, if you're doing it to make money, sure, but if you're drawing because you like drawing, eh...kinda undercuts the sense of achievement

>> No.70748561

>>70748072
i've had people on this very site offer me money to make AI celeb nudes lol

>> No.70748688

vedal hate

>> No.70748777

>>70748072
There's a shitload of them on patreon

>> No.70748838

>>70748380
It clearly states in the notes that it isn't capable of doing anything specific.
>>70748777
Post one that takes actual commissions that are not simple "bbc for 10 bucks" prompts like the other guy.

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>>70747746
It's boring anon, it really is, you have to understand most people who draw do it because they love doing it , if they wanted to make money they would have gone for literally any other career choice, there's no artistic merit in using AI, because even if it looks good or "perfect" it doesn't have meaning, just look at this classic painting for example, an AI might be able to replicate it's style and put something together that looks good, but it doesn't have a purpose or a meaning so it's trash, worst than a child's drawing by tenfold, this painting meant something to Van Gogh

>> No.70748972

>>70748553
Those paywalling everything are aggressive. AI created some soft of balance from that

>> No.70748989

>>70748890
That's your opinion and nothing more. Think about all the mid artists who can improve their art and learn from fixing the AI's mistakes. The technology will eventually reach a point where your argument about "sovl" will fall apart.

>> No.70749018

>>70709952
Evil collab with Tenma Maemi

>> No.70749187

>>70748989
It's not an opinion anon, it's the truth, technology is unstoppable and is always getting better, but even when AI art it's objectively better than the best artists of all time combined by ten fold, it will still have less merit and meaning than a kid playing with crayons, because AI art means nothing, it only looks pretty

>> No.70749222

>>70748838
Here you lazy faggot
https://www.patreon.com/user?u=66483206
https://www.patreon.com/user?u=94155653
https://www.patreon.com/user?u=97150727

>> No.70749338

>>70749187
That's like the most subjective thing ever. For me the purpose of art is to find it appealing and enjoyable and I couldn't care less about the context or manner in which it was created.

>> No.70749517

>>70748989
It isn't some "opinion" its how the human brain is built and unless you can figure out what exactly happens and replicate that in the model it will never get on the same level. Mid art is better and more respected than the perfect slop, same goes for everything else in the creative space.

>> No.70749579

>>70749338
You arrogant fool, I'm done

>> No.70749611

>>70749338
nah dude i can't cum to goonshit if the artist doesn't have a tortured past
also he just called YOU arrogant fucking lmao

>> No.70749720

>>70748890
You are making a very subjective judgment about what constitutes art and what makes it meaningful. Art is not only about the intention of the creator, but also about the interpretation of the viewer.
These new AI technologies are just another tool in the creative process, like cameras or computers.

>> No.70749804

>>70749517
Once again, incredibly subjective. Most AI haters speak about art enjoyment like it's this universal objective feeling that every human shares but that's simply the result of trying to rationalize your unreasonable hate for AI instead of admitting you are simply biased against it.

>> No.70750163

>>70748328
no~
https://files.catbox.moe/jymzvp.png

>> No.70750358

Scat AI anon please gen Neuro/Evil/both shitting in Anny's mouth

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>>70748025
>>70750163

>> No.70750436

>>70750163
Evil-chan feels so warm...

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>>70750358

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>>70750631
Imagine how mad she'd be though

>> No.70750774

neuro fucking a giraffe...

>> No.70751079

>>70750163
Whose hand is that small? Neuro?

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>>70751079
No~

>> No.70751554

Neuro would never touch her little sister like that, *wink*

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>>70751554
(consensually)

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>>70751145

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>>70748025
squeeze the daylights out of me with your thighs

>> No.70752978

>>70750163
pleaseeeee neeeeed evil doggysyle

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>>70747746
>https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/20863556
>Occupation: Elementary school student

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>> No.70753388

>>70749720
>You are making a very subjective judgment about what constitutes art and what makes it meaningful
so are you
>about the interpretation of the viewer
interpretation necessarily comes post factum.
so art that is done for the sole sake of consumption is necessarily "less meaningful" even when the author's intention is removed since there is no longer the inherent assumption "this means something to someone"
>>70749804
>simply the result of trying to rationalize your unreasonable hate
it is equally as valid to claim your lack of that feeling is simply the result of you suppressing it as you have an agenda to push on that basis of personal experience

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>>70748890
The purpose is "make pp go up" and for that I need three lines, anything beyond is a bonus.

>> No.70753853
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>>70753823
erotic...

>> No.70754150
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>>70753823
ToT

>> No.70754224

>>70753823
this has more soul to it than ai slop

>> No.70754284

img2img time

>> No.70754302

Evil's insides are so tiny. T o T

>> No.70754389
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>AI art is le bad
>AI vtubers are fine though
?

>> No.70754421

Neuro and Evil touching tummies.

>> No.70754644

>>70754389
>there is a word i recognize in this phrase
>and here it is again in another phrase
true depths of the argument right here.
newfags couldn't have come up with anything else to say for almost a year now.
have a (you)

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>>70754389
>I don't wanna use my brain I just wanna consume consume consume and not think about what is put in front of me
Yes.

>> No.70754719

>>70754389
>based of real artists hard work
Don't tell her where Neuro's funny lines come from.

>> No.70754794

>>70754389
I have yet to find an AI art hater who doesn't sound psychotic

>> No.70754845

>>70754719
from me

>> No.70754905

>>70754389
thousands of dev hours vs 2 minutes googling for prompts

>> No.70755009

>>70754719
Underpaid interns, last one was called "Tony."

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>>70754719

>> No.70755225

>>70754644
If you need it in more words, "waah waah they didn't ask for permission to use that in the training data" is not an argument against AI art inherently, just against specific implementations of it using specific data sets. Yet you niggers constantly whine about muh soul.
On top of that, coming from anny it's extra hilarious and hypocritical because she loves Neuro whose textgen is the exact same thing just in text form (when they were composing the text dataset to train Neuro's LLM they also didn't go to every single individual writer and ask them if their piece of writing can be used).

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penis poop thoughever

>> No.70755379

>>70754905
Creating the AI tools took thousands of hours by thousands of people too, millions of you include the artists.

>> No.70755474

>>70754644
There is no fundamental difference between how Neuro works and how something like DALL-E works.
The only reason you and Anny hate DALL-E but not Neuro is because Neuro has a pretty anime girl avatar.

>> No.70755549

>>70755379
not by the person creating the slop which is what matters the most

>> No.70755575

>>70754794
It’s always the shittiest artists being concerned about it, I’m yet to see a good artist even caring about other people’s art

>> No.70755693

>>70755549
I often wonder if you are trying to sound disingenuous on purpose

>> No.70755707

>>70755575
BUT MAH TWITTER LIKES!!!!1!!

>> No.70755746

>trying to argue against slop gooners
you already lost

>> No.70755819

>>70755575
ai art fans are obnoxious and tribalistic just like bts/crypto/nft fags and they always throw a tantrum when someone dares to criticize them

>> No.70755844

>>70755746
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T ENJOY WHAT YOU ENJOY BECAUSE... YOU JUST CAN'T, OK?? IT MAKES MY FEEFEES HURT
>*keep enjoying thing*
True

>> No.70755866

>>70755225
>"waah waah they didn't ask for permission to use that in the training data" is not an argument against AI art inherently
>whine about muh soul
non sequitur and strawmanning
>whose textgen is the exact same thing just in text form
fuck no it isn't.
the amount of freely available text is far far larger than any image databases out there. literal centuries of writers in public domain. but it's not van gogh that's being primarily imitated by image generators, is it.
harvesting text that's new, people know that they're signing away their soul to google or facebook, nobody even bothered sending a "we're making privacy policy changes" email to artists to rip their shit. even if think that it's ok you have to acknowledge that it is objectively not the same
>>70755474
(you)

>> No.70755913

>>70755819
Ok? Undertale fans are a fucking blight on the internet, doesn't mean the game itself is that bad.

>> No.70755936
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70755936

>>70755281
this tbqhwy

>> No.70756026

>>70755819
You wouldn't have to deal with those obnoxious and tribalistic fans in the first place if you seething AI antis would just shut the fuck up and stop crying about how evil AI art is.

>> No.70756052
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70756052

neurunny though

>> No.70756065

>>70755866
>m-muh copyright laws
That's a reach.

>> No.70756084

>>70743362
>Donation goal for Neuro's new outfit 10k
it will be completed in 2 days.
How can he be so greedy but doesnt understand how to milk twitch chat

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70756201

>>70752978
Not textbook doggystyle, but still...
https://litter.catbox.moe/qx364b.png

>> No.70756208

>>70756084
he is not greedy he is just stingy

>> No.70756246

>>70756084
Not that greedy, just a cheap bastard

>> No.70756265

>>70755866
>literal centuries of writers in public domain. but it's not van gogh that's being primarily imitated by image generators, is it.
It's just a hunch but I get the feeling Neuro's finetune of vlog subtitles and youtube comments is not centuries old.

>> No.70756272

I haven't seen a good Neuro AI art posted in this general ever

>> No.70756319

>>70755866
>literal centuries of writers in public domain. but it's not van gogh that's being primarily imitated by image generators, is it.
And what, you think Neuro is being trained on fucking Paradise Lost? Lmao.
>nobody even bothered sending a "we're making privacy policy changes" email to artists to rip their shit
Why should they? It's not a copyright violation to download publicly available images for your own private use. I seem to recall your kind making fun of NFT-bros for this exact assertion.
>(you)
Not an argument.

>> No.70756343

Anny defense force try to blend in challenge (impossible)

>> No.70756363

>>70755866
>freely available
>public domain
That's not the argument Anny is making, but that it is trained with human content to begin with.

>> No.70756432

>>70756201
Somehow the crop is more erotic than the full image.

>> No.70756470

>>70756272
I have.

>> No.70756501

>>70756272
most of it doesn't even look like neuro

>> No.70756709

>>70756501
neuro or evil, blindchama
>>70756201
>>70756052
>>70726833
>>70723589
>>70722396
>>70721576
>>70720961
>>70718890
>>70716310

>> No.70756725

>>70756026
Funny how this is almost the same exact argument used by troons defending male participation in female sports. JuSt ShUt uP RrEeeE tHe SlOp DoEs nOT GiVe UnFaIr AdVAntAgES ThAT DeValUe ThE EnTiRe FiELd

>> No.70756751
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70756751

sneed

>> No.70756809

>>70756725
I am disgusted by trannies like any other logical individual but you sound absolutely fucking deranged.

>> No.70756816

>>70756725
>troons out of nowhere
get help anon

>> No.70756838

>>70756751
I want to feed and seed this Neuro.

>> No.70756861

>>70756725
Utterly obsessed.

>> No.70756913

>>70756725
Yes, it is indeed quite funny how leftists screech that there should be equality of outcome, not just equality of opportunity, and then when something puts us closer to equality of outcome in the art field those same people also screech about it.

>> No.70756921

>>70756725
>>>/pol/

>> No.70756977

>>70756913
Slit your fucking wirsts

>> No.70757008

There's this hypocritical layer where artists get mad about automation because it's happening in their lifetimes, but take every product of technology and automation that already exists previously for granted . Not just agricultural or other sectors who have been heavily transformed, but also reminder that older artists seethed at digital and didn't consider it art and considered it "unfair". Now it's common.
And how photography took portrait artists jobs. Photography became professionally common, and nowadays, even the average phonefag got access to "photoslops" and "selfieslops".

The cultural landscape will simply adapt to technological advances. Neo-zoomers will just consider meaningful art prompted AI art that hits the spot, as art has always done.

Art is just the sensory representation of things, events, concepts, people who are meaningful to humanity. The procedure never truly mattered.

>> No.70757069

>>70756977
This is by far the most coherent argument against AI art in this thread so far.

>> No.70757187

twitter screencap should result in an automatic ban.

>> No.70757217

>>70755575
Every other asian anime artist has "do not train with my art" in their bio though.
Then you get stuff like this https://twitter.com/urct/status/1760249613947478033

>> No.70757235

** slop looks like fucking garbage and no one likes it, that is why I, as a fairly competent artist, fear being replaced by it and have a mental breakdown whenever it gets more attention than my art.

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70757338

>>70757235
hi anny

>> No.70757412

>>70757235
kek this is actually how they sound

>> No.70757500

>Most people can’t distinguish between AI and human art
ogre

>> No.70757535

>>70757217
>Every other asian anime artist has "do not train with my art" in their bio though.
Anyone posting anything on Twitter is being used to train Elon Musk's AI (Grok).
Do they think the scraper bot will ignore them for putting that in their bio?

>> No.70757555

>>70757217
thats what they do, the moment someone says something negative about it they start harassing them as evident by this thread

>> No.70757612

>>70757535
they already uploaded their ID to keep using twitter, they'll do anything

>> No.70757647

>I'm being called out for being retarded HELP THIS IS LITERALLY HARASSMENT

>> No.70757729

>>70757235
There's this psychological phenomena of entitlement that comes from our brain's reward systems.
In terms of behavioral conditioning, if you take a lot of effort / spend a lot of energy on something, you expect a big reward. If you don't, your brain gives you a punishment under the form of negative feeling, to disentivize yourself from doing it again. Repeated cases of this for the same behavior induce what is called behavioral extinction (you stop doing that, you stop assuming rewards will ever come)

The artist seethe at AI is similar to the leftist seethe coalesced in Marx's Labor Theory of Value (LTV)
>According to the LTV, value refers to the amount of socially necessary labor to produce a marketable commodity; this includes the labor components necessary to develop any real capital. This provides the "real price," or "natural price" of a commodity.
In other words, due to our brain's reward systems, they mistakenly believe that the value of something equals the amount of effort that went into its production. However, that's not why something is valuable, something is valuable if someone (including you) deems it valuable (meaningful, useful, and such).

tl;dr effort never mattered for anything besides as a measure of someone's personality traits, for anything else it's just a brain bug.

>> No.70757737

>P-please like the slop i w-worked s-so hard on it
>No?
>REEE YOUR ART IS SHIT FUCK YOU RETARD

>> No.70757775

>supported AI model being used to poise as a cute vtuber and didn't care at all about neuro dunking on all the indies
>cares alot about AI art dunking on all the shitty artists
Classic idiot logic

>> No.70757921
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70757921

where do these people come from
VEDAL related general
does vedal have anything to do with AI art??? no???
then shut the FUCK up

>> No.70757926
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70757926

are we being raided by annys discord or something

>> No.70757934

>>70757500
Unironically this, look at all those boomers on facebook believing the most obvious AI images of celebrities in ridiculous/controversial situations. Same applies to the average coomer, they don't give a shit about tiny details or proportions or whatever, they just want to see a specific character in a specific situation and they'll eat it right up without giving a single shit about muh real artists. Look at all the shitty but niche fanart of weird ass fetishes on deviantart or the likes of it, none of the people who are into that care about the quality beyond a very low threshold. Those AI hating retards can keep seething eternally but there will always be a demand for AI art and the technology will only keep improving while they can do nothing about it.

>> No.70758030

>>70757921
blame the nigger who keeps bringing Anny related topics here for some reason

>> No.70758042

>>70757926
We usually just have that one psychotic "muh slop" poster who randomly mentions trannies so I'd say yes.

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70758051

>> No.70758097

>>70757921
Vedal acted like a complete cuck and let Anny delete the AI art channel from Neurocord.

>> No.70758102

>>70758051
*she sees my erect penis*

>> No.70758259

>>70757775
Anny only care about the AI that benefit her, Neuro benefit her, she would totally complain if she have 0 relation with her

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70758279

>>70758097
nobody cares about slop being posted
you can stop seething
its been like a year

>> No.70758336

>>70756319
>you think Neuro is being trained on fucking Paradise Lost
fiction is not the only thing people have written up until 21st century.
i don't have the link to a specific paper but it is generally understood that high quality training data is much more important than the quanitity (i. e. much better imitation of a streamer than if you took only the vlog subtitles and youtube comments)
>your own private use
as you can notice the use isn't as private as it seems because this shit is inescapable in this thread alone
>Not an argument
implying?
>>70756363
but it is. i doubt anny gives a shit that someone who died a 100 years wasn't asked permission.
the point is, it's not the same with images and texts
>>70757008
>agricultural or other sectors who have been heavily transformed
those transformations cut down the now unnecessary manual labour. taking away the skills of ploughing and sowing didn't make the sector less meaningful.
>photography took portrait artists jobs
portraits didn't cease to exist after photography. those who still do it don't "integrate photography as yet another tool"
>Neo-zoomers will just consider meaningful art prompted AI art that hits the spot, as art has always done
appeal to nature. just because it's likely going to happen doesn't make it any better
>procedure never truly mattered
unless you're coming up with some convoluted meaning of what "truly matters", this is just false

>> No.70758385

>>70758279
they will keep seething about it because they get no validation for having a "art" channel to post it in

>> No.70758425

>>70756432
it’s cause of the semi flat butt if it was a bit juicier, I’d be cumming rn

>> No.70758440

>>70757934
its little scary actually, how readily normalfags accept fake things as reality. All those skits on youtube where people cannot discern the difference does not bode well for the future

>> No.70758516

People who tell you art is about the effort and work just see art differently and don't understand that not everyone see's art like they do. they see it because its honed in the craft of making art. Beauty has and always will be in the eye of the beholder

>> No.70758573

>>70758097
Of course, it's a seething discordfaggot. Who would have thunk

>> No.70758572

>>70758516
and for me thats neuros flat chest and ass

>> No.70758645

holy retards, go back to wherever shithole you came from, make a thread if you want to seethe about muh ai art or go to >>>/vt//lig/ if you want to seethe about anny

>> No.70758677

>>70758425
https://litter.catbox.moe/2c878z.png

>> No.70758719
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70758719

butt of nur?

>> No.70758764

>>70758677
>>70758719
perfect.

>> No.70758833

>>70758336
>those transformations cut down the now unnecessary manual labour. taking away the skills of ploughing and sowing didn't make the sector less meaningful.
Tell that to manual artisans and guilds vs industrialization. And farmers did have meaning in their jobs. Specially since you actually get to see the results, unlike office job that is several layers of abstraction away from the actual product.

>portraits didn't cease to exist after photography. those who still do it don't "integrate photography as yet another tool"
Going from "the only way is to make a portrait or sculpture" to "we also have photography" unavoidably decreased the demand for portrait or sculpture makers, and pushed it to a niche, while raising the accessibility of getting an image of yourself. Both consequences, exactly the same as with AI.

>unless you're coming up with some convoluted meaning of what "truly matters", this is just false
Not convoluted at all. I already stated it: "something is valuable if someone (including you) deems it valuable (meaningful, useful, and such)"
Value is subjective. The component of "necessity" and "needed resources" adds an objective component to it, but ultimately everything will be judged subjectively (including in the form of a societal aggregate of value, like the market).

>> No.70758834

>>70758677
T o T UOOOOOOOOOOHHHH that’s the good shit

>> No.70758835

>>70758677
{{{bigger}}}

>> No.70758879

>>70758336
>as you can notice the use isn't as private as it seems
Surprise surprise, the AI art hater doesn't actually understand how AI works.
When an ANN is trained on some set of data, after the training session is complete, that data is never referenced again. The resulting model produces wholly original output.

>> No.70759270

>>70758879
Expanding on "muh copied signatures muh patchwork of training images" as a different anon:
The reason some output this kind of thing is because the AI has never seen art anywhere in the universe except for what you have fed it. So it assumes every "art" has to have that signature drawing in that particular area. It's the fault of poor training (overfitting). But the AI is not "copy pasting chunks of other images", it is "drawing" it the only way it has been teached to do art.

>> No.70759289

>>70758835
https://litter.catbox.moe/8ccqid.png

>> No.70759384

Only time ai art comes out decently is when it copies a specific artist style, the garbage that gets posted here belongs in a trash can.

>> No.70759436

>>70759384
I agree with you, I will now stop enjoying the AI art posted here. Thank you.

>> No.70759451

>>70759289
Now that's a squeezable butt.

>> No.70759550

>>70759289
when the butt can actually bounce
she shouldn't possess that

>> No.70759670

>>70759289
*slaps*

>> No.70759671

>>70758051
Could be a cool emote for divegrass chat.

>> No.70759708

>>70758833
>manual artisans and guilds vs industrialization
this is more of a problem with society requiring a job for the sake of survival.
no one was under the impression artists were doing it for the fat stacks before ai became a thing
>farmers did have meaning in their jobs
meaning wasn't one of the primary purposes of their jobs, it was those tangible results
>I already stated it: "something is valuable if someone (including you) deems it valuable (meaningful, useful, and such)"
i don't need to be an expert to tell you that there are artworks out there whose value is the process of making said artwork, so you've just said bullshit there
>>70758879
surprise surprise, the ai art consumer doesn't actually understand how ai works.
after a neural network is trained on some set of data the results of that training don't vanish into the void, the autograd doesn't undo itself.
the usage of value gained from stolen shit isn't private

>> No.70759835

Where are scat and horsecock anons when you need them...

>> No.70759881
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70759881

I want to see what Evil would look like after a BBL.

>> No.70759990

>>70759835
permabanned for not using catbox

>> No.70760229

>>70759708
>i don't need to be an expert to tell you that there are artworks out there whose value is the process of making said artwork, so you've just said bullshit there
If someone deems that process valuable, then it is valuable. If no one gives a fuck, then it isn't.

Also artists need to eat and pay rent/homes, just like anyone else. Unless it's a hobby thing.
The point is, what happened to photography will happen to digital art with the advent of AI. We have seen it happen, and it will happen again and again with other things. And no one gets mad at photographers anymore (or normies with smartphones doing selfies).

>the usage of value gained from stolen shit isn't private
If we go down that lane, then neither is the advances in medicine and treatment due to WWII horrifying shit either. Or resource mining from third world countries to make the equipment an artist uses. People on twitter can do performative apologies for it, but won't stop them from benefitting from it.
That said, I support some sort of legal "I do not consent for others to use my art for AI training" label. After all, you are the copyright owner of your work.

>> No.70760535

added "Anny", "ai slop" to filters

>> No.70760715

Consider the following

https://files.catbox.moe/mr9tmz.png

>> No.70760718

new
>>70760680
>>70760680
>>70760680

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70760822

>>70760718
yabai pic

>> No.70760834

>>70760718
>slop OP
this general is beyond saving
fuck you all

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70760854

>>70760715
licky licky

>> No.70760896
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70760896

>>70760715
I'll cumsider it.

>> No.70760962
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70760962

>>70760834
Baked with love, just for (you).

>> No.70761068

>>70760896
post it when you're done

>> No.70761115

>>70760535
fuck off Al sIop fag

>> No.70761211
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70761211

>>70761068
Why do you want to see my semen?
That's kinda gay if you ask me.

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70761301

>>70759708
>after a neural network is trained on some set of data the results of that training don't vanish into the void
The results of that training is a bunch of floating point weights organized into a graph data structure.
You don't get to claim ownership over that.
>the usage of value gained from stolen shit
It's called "learning by example" dipshit.

>> No.70762028

Cumming inside Neuro's child pussy.

>> No.70762234
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70762234

>>70762028

>> No.70762240

>>70758259
If you haven't noticed this is global.
she only cares about people that bring her some sort of advantage : artists, oilers, 7tv mods

>> No.70762265

Cumming outside Neuro's child pussy.

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