/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

>>70670555
I mean I agree I like some of her songs, but it's just so much discussion surrounding Kiara is about her being "the runt" that it's weird seeing her be near the top on this metric
I mean her 3D live concert got ass numbers yet her music does great. You don't see that as ironic?

>>70670506
It has nothing to do with borrowing/lending stocks. It's borrowing cash (to buy more stocks) with your stocks (in this case, you can now include Anycolor stocks here) as a collateral.
Imagine if you invest in properties, you buy your first house, and then mortgage that property ro buy another house. that's what margin trading allows you to.

>>70670452
>They're doing well for an upstart group,
actually no considering the people and group backing them (VLAST) are connected to SM, YG and Pledis
them breaking records for virtual bands should be a minimum for them

MIKO GOLD
MIKO LEWDS
MIKO SEX THE MIKO HOLE

>>70670338
not sure what you mean by hit or miss, the only real miss she has is forgotten song which can be put down to no one having heard of the song ever. i guess you could argue stellar stellar flopped (i personally think the cover itself sucks)

>>70670771
CCV for 3D lives has less to do with musical ability and more to do with popularity.

>>70670793
YG? How connected are they?

THE

>>70670739
>>70670753
eyes off thats my wife

>>70670781
>you buy your first house, and then mortgage that property to buy another house. that's what margin trading allows you to.
Isnt that how people lose their homes?

>>70670771
Bae 3D debut sits at the bottom in promise, but her music has the highest views in Promise.

>「My Dearest」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover) *new*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s
>「DAYBREAK FRONTLINE」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>「名前のない怪物」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>>70670476
proof?

>>70670842
You forgot this.

gentlemen, i present to you
mental illness

>>70670771
I mean, Mori is also a bit of a runt when it comes to CCV, but she’s still one of the most popular musicians in Hololive.

>>70670506
>I honestly don't know the benefits of selling/buying borrowed stock.
It's not hard, I'll explain it in very easy terms
>back in the days the stock of a company was a piece of paper.
A company would issue (let's say) 100.000 stocks, you would purchase one of these pieces of paper worth 100 stocks meaning you now is the owner of 0.1% of the company.
You would take this paper and sell for whatever value you thought 0.1% of the company was worth and that's it.
Then
>stock traders became a thing and you no longer had to hold the piece of paper in your hands
You would call your trader, he would buy 100 stocks of a company in your name, the trading company would hold the piece of paper on your behalf and you would wire him the money for the purchase.
Then you decide to sell, he would find a buyer, part with the piece of paper and wire you the money.
Then
>trading accounts became a thing
Your trader would give you a certain balance you could keep that he knew you were good for it (let's say, 10000 dollars) and you wouldn't have to wire him the money right away, he would allow you to buy on credit and, as he was holding the piece of paper on your behalf, you couldn't really default on it because, in reality, he could just keep your stocks if you didn't pay.
That's the origin of "margin trading", it is not as much as a "loan" as a "collateralized" one with the stocks serving as the collateral with an inherent value equal to the loan.
Then comes what is called a "margin call": if your stock crashes in value your collateral can no longer cover your balance meaning the trader will demand you to pony up the money and, if you fail, they'll fire sale your stocks in their possession to cover the amount you owe.

It's not esoteric stuff, except this used to be very regulated and now it is no longer with retail traders allowing even 4chan retards to keep a balance on the tens of thousands of dollars, it's pretty much institutionalized government sanctioned gambling

Which Holo is most likely to die of a car crash?

>>70670887
bae's 3d debut had low ccv but has been growing steadily vod wise while mumei's 3d has been stuck at 449k for the last month

>>70670360
In a couple years Fauna will break like Okayu and start doing GFE, then you will see some funny shit. Fauna's graduation will make Heaven's Gate look like a fucking joke.

>>70670936
japanese NDF isnt any better

>>70670966
And? Is still the lowest CCV.

>>70670842
I'm still pissed we'll never see the true potential of the original Dan Dan video

>>70670878
MOST

INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING

>>70670932
that cover was clearly not serious and more of a meme cover like dandan

>>70670781
People tend to get really, REALLY hung up on shit when it comes to lending, because it's extremely hard for people to grasp the concept of "money multiplication," and I don't blame them because hearing shit like
>10% fractional reserve rules mean that $100 can actually be stretched into $1,000 via loan chains and its all real money
Makes people assume some stupid shit is happening. And it kind of is stupid, but like, it works when you hit the realization that money is basically just itemized potential.
Man, I'm at work, I can't really explain my degree easily, just, finance shit is being played on levels that are both extremely complex and utterly retarded, but it works

>>70670959
ID
Good god ID traffic is nightmare.

>>70670937
she was batting over 10k (real) with a Takotori and IRyS overlap on a weird rambly zatsu
she could probably do full Moomcore but she grew to like streaming long hours too much

kinda related news: Facebook is down as of this time so expect some SEA spillage at this hour.

>>70670995
>t.botter

>>70670887
Yes, that is indeed one of the things that contributed to thenl subprime crisis, on an institutional level, where bad debt essentially got passed around with people pretending it wasn't. Borrowing on your home should basically only ever be a measure of last resort, and abusing it to flip houses for money just makes the housing market unaffordable for the people who need it the most, new families.
Anyways, this is going to veer into /pol/ and /biz/ nonsense too quickly, so suffice to say that Anycolor is looking to shore up their stock prices with this move.

>>70671007
It still counts.

>>70670932
Have u listened to it? It's hardly a song at all.

>>70670887
A lot of music numbers depends on how much hype you build around it. Bae and mori spend a lot of time on that

>>70670793
>YG and Pledis
These guys started right at the finish line. The question is how far can they go to justify their value.

>>70671058
A flop is a flop.

>>70671044
>Bae is responsible for the 2018 financial crisis
I KNEW IT

>>70671028
>10k (real)
lol

>>70670998
INFLUENTIAL

I gotta repost this jesus christ this is G R I M
She really should stick with just english songs, it was what she is known for and her brand since day 1. How hard is it to keep to your brand if it is successful and try something new if it is not

https://www.pannchoa.com/2024/03/theqooenter-talk-plave-becoming-half.html
>Outsells every Vtuber ever, incluiding Gura
C'mon Yagoo
Strike while the iron is hot
Release HomostarsKR...or make the homos sing in korean

>>70671044
how chaotic

did we talk about this yet?

>>70671096
>2018

>>70670948
It's worse than that, because there's literally hoards of bots that run around making things pretty much worse than gambling. At least if I'm playing a game of poker, there are set odds of things happening, same with other card games with set odds. With these sorts of things, it's a completely uneven playing field where a lone trader is pretty much SoL most of the time unless they get unfathomably lucky and ride a wave of bots, or they get some insider info.

>>70671146
Why do you think half the thread is in business autism at the moment

>>70670799
I'm very happy Miko is winning so frequently, her lewds are the best

>>70671137
It's a pity they're not vtubers. I wonder how they rank among the virtual boy bands

Gura is cool and unhinged just like the boys!

>>70671146
Nah, the margin trading discussion came from some dude asking about gambling

>>70670936
why are nijiniggers like this?

>>70671000
>Flesh collab
Have some shame dog

>>70670959
Kaela almost did, before she joined Hololive. Mumei lost the lower half of her right leg in a car crash. But, I'd put money on Kronii.

>>70671065
bae and mori also just have tons of music. when you have that much output people tend to forget that they also have many flops (bae in particular, half her music doesn't cross a million)

>>70671137
Not vtubers. Also fugly.

>>70670874
YG is the group that Blackpink who is the biggest kpop female group and they also managed Psy and 2NE1
JYP managed Rain (the guy from Ninja Assassin) and more importantly Wonder Girls whos fandom and stans laid the foundation of youtube kpop numberfagging and basically invented the pic related meta

>>70671203
NIJISEETHE

So I checked the archives
It seems like mumei wasn't most people favourite during debut.
But when I checked her # she was still at the top end of council during debut period.
So what was the reason for it?

>>70671113
6-7k jump from a redirect, anonchama

>>70671168
The worst part of electronic high frequency trading is that, when it fucks up, the markets just "mulligan" it and reverse all the bad trades.
That makes it crooked on behalf of the firms

>>70670565
Nerissa main strength is her English covers but with the new rules that jp songs can no longer receives subs without permission and the rules for doing english covers she loses one of her core strengths that makes her stand out.

>stock split
>buyback
>loaning
if anycolour gave the same amount of attention to NijiEN then the branch woudnt have crashed and burned.

>>70671096
Shit, I replied to the wrong post. Oh well it's funny so I'll leave it.

Do you think Riku is looking for that golden parachute after he limps past this quarter?
Nijifes will ensure the JP side looks fine but the EN side looks kinda fucked.

>>70671137
>wanting more homoshits
>wanting even more Kpop dogshit femcels into the hobby
no thanks, also Gorillaz exist

>>70671135
Faumei English orisong would be good check for #

>>70670936
Nigistanzis...

>>70671135
It clearly got fucked in the algorithm by her streaming over it and neither song partner raiding into it. It had like 85k in the first 24 hours and almost nothing after that. If thats not algorithm fucked I don't know what is

>>70671240
2021 Mumei fit very squarely into the niche of
>everyone's second favorite girl
And profited from that in the form of views.

>>70671240
poor man's Gura that actually was around more

>>70671240
kronii was #1 and it wasn't even close
mumei was 2nd
bae and fauna were WAY behind mumei

>>70671302
Is just a bad cover.

>>70671333
It's really not, and it has a decent MV.

>>70671280
>Do you think Riku is looking for that golden parachute after he limps past this quarter?
If he doesn't sell now he will never sell for a higher value.
He could have turned into a proper billionaire instead of merely a paper billionaire.
Anycolor is reminding me of Farfetch (the Belo Jogo "unicorn" company)

>>70671137
Are you implying that Gorillaz are vtubers?
#MurdocWasRobbed

>>70671302
>by her streaming over it
If I were her manager I would fucking slap her

Sometimes I wish I knew how to be a web developer
It's probably fucking stupid of me, but I really wanna make a virtual fake gambling hall for Vtubers again after that Mori song.
It just seems like such a fun idea to make Saltybet but with CCV and shit, nasfaq is something close but it isn't the same

>>70671240
2021
Kronii >> Mumei >>>>>> Fauna/Bae
Early 2022
Kronii >= Mumei >>>> Fauna > Bae
Mid 2022
Mumei >>>>> Fauna/Kronii >>>> Bae
Late 2022
Fauna/Mumei >> Kronii >>>>> Bae
2023
Fauna > Mumei > Kronii >>> Bae
2024
Mumei >> Fauna >>>>>>> Kronii > Bae

>>70670936
What I find funny is that Kotoka was attacked and harassed way before the Mel thing happened around the last week of november or first week of december and even then they still blamed hololive fans for that because apparently "hololive fans" were angry that she somehow "cheated" and skipped vta

>>70671094
Fuck off

>>70671137
Outsold Gura's album? Must have gotten passed me, tell me where I can buy Gura's album so I can correct this.

No tally for Karin...

>>70671372
I’d assume any prospecting buyer would wait for his company to crater in value before buying it. Him selling his stock off without a good reason will make investors panic.

>>70671234
I know about YG anon. I just don't know how connected these guys are to them. If they're in the same org, then bragging about their achivement is like calling homostar a success.

WTF did I miss this time???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyetaOXyxrE

>>70671276
>new rules that jp songs can no longer receives subs without permission and the rules for doing english covers
What are you talking about now you retarded schizo

>>70670781
Huh
That sounds like a pyramid scheme.
At some point of the company goes into the green they debt will be repaid...
But this setting also means that the stock is vulnerable to getting shorted.
It's probably gonna see-saw like those botted graphs, between like 3500 and 3050 or something.
People will buy low, sell high, or short at high levels.
There's a chance that it can stabilize that was I suppose, just stay in between that range.
But in case someone shorts a bit too much and it dips below 3k, the investors might start panic selling as well.
So like that one anon said, it's like walking on a plywood bridge. You never know when it's gonna just crack under your weight.

>>70671430
Kroniis fall from grace is fucking depressing

>>70671411
What's stopping you from learning? As far as hobbies go coding is a really productive and potentially profitable one.

>>70671430
Is it ceiling or floor?
Because fauna can never defeat mumei in ceiling

>>70671302
first 24 hours means nothing
Mumei's mumei had near 400k in its first 24 hours and stagnated around 3 million barely growing.
Psycho barely broke 200k in its first 24 hours and is still growing at a steady pace around 4.4 million.

>>70670936
>It's Holo fault
Everything is holo fault in their mind, the selen quitting - holo fault, the cancelation of AR live? holo fault, the leaked all out war? yup holo fault.

>>70671430
Cope sapling. Fauna was more consistent but she has never been at the top of Council

>>70671372
>Farfecha

>>70671226
Is
>numbers
Also
>seething

>>70671280
the stock will only start going down from here so if he wants to cash out this is pretty much the best time to do so for maximum value.

Bear in mind that while he technically owns stock worth a billion dollars, he doesn't actually have a billion dollars on hand. The billion dollars is all notional until he actually offloads his stock.

>>70671503
Streaming over a premiere with a livestream clearly isn't good for it

>>70671356
There was just alot of competition that week. And thats excluding all the major ones.

>>70671502
It's fucking average or median you retard, it's clear you're trying to start Mumei vs Fauna, so kill yourself now

Someone give me a TLDR of the mongsloids thing. Not giving him a view but I want a heads up if I need to start swatting normalfags again

>>70671493
there was no grace
she literally read Reddit lines on monetization stream
hell, she's actually going back to those roots with the planned NPC stream

>>70671496
No idea where to begin

Why are hololive members like this?

>>70671562 (me)
*swatting as in swatting away not swat-ing

>>70671240
The "I forgor.." stitch really annoyed anon /here/, her game choice was pretty bad too, still does.

>>70671559
But I was taking about ceiling from the start......

>>70671574
so all she had was model + voice synergy buff?

>>70671562
>if I need to start swatting normalfags again
Anon please don't call the cops on people for having stupid opinions

>>70671506
petra was a sleeper agent for hololive
she leaked the discord on purpose

>>70671597
ask chatgpt

>>70671480
Bae talked about it they have to get perms from the song owner if they want to put eng subs on their covers.

>>70671624
Are the faggots posting here now too new to remember fucking council

>>70670883
yes margin trading is inherently riskier. if you enter with 1k usd, you could potentially double your money or lose them entirely in a day, which is not possible in normal trading.
It's basically as risky as derivatives but a lot more secured since you actually own the stocks you buy.

>>70671518

>>70671597
Think of a cool project first (that's reasonably simple), that'll motivate you to learn, then you go step by step. Don't try to complete the project in one go, go incrementally

>>70671503
Does anyone know how youtube music work? Psycho is already at 6 million and in YT there's the MV and the Release - Topic

>>70671518
you don't want me reminding you about mumei's 5k gaming streams when she was at her lowest point and couldn't rely on the box for numbers trust me

mumei without holoen is nothing

>>70671506
Meanwhile
>nijiniggers provoke the Ghost Trick perms incident
>nijiniggers provoke Aloe's resignation
>nijiniggers anti Holos on a daily basis

>>70671457
sasaeng sites already doxxed them and their management and they are basically industry plants
>If they're in the same org, then bragging about their achivement is like calling homostar a success.
actually the opposite, their "success" is expected because they are backed by very big players through mbc

>>70671652
Advent brought a lot of them in and they never lurked or did their reps.

>>70671652
Old man english vtubing has existed for like 3.5 years and council has been active for over 2 years of them. They are old as fuck

>>70671630
I forgot that word has a different meaning sometimes, I meant >>70671608 lol

>>70671675
So why the hell is anycolor so afraid of their stock price falling below 3k anyway?

>70671712
Okay now this is straight up holo vs holo

Most subs gained by Hololive channels in march so far. Kobo ticked

>>70671651
Anon thats not new thats an old rule even before vtubers
its why you dont see official eng subs for a lot of jap op and ed anime songs

>>70671681
EST>PST

>>70671651
That's how it has always worked retard, since before Hololive existed. Same reason why song translations were common in anime fansubs but not a thing at all in official releases.

>>70671740
Because it's a big round number that will cause the average person to go "wait what the fuck it's fallen this much? I better sell before I lose even more money"

>>70671690
if ur an artist channel it counts towerds the mv views
if ur not an artist channel it counts towards topic channel if u use youtube music

>>70671597
Web dev isn't even coding. Just use Wordpress,
copy some random code from Github and modify it a bit with ChatGPT

Where do holo antis gather I want to spy

It has been a while since I asked this, but how new are youfag? Asking about Council's impression goddammit!

Why are we pretending these retards holo vs holoing and thinly veiled shit talking various girls are newfags, not just our usual shitposters? Or is that part of the game

>>70671681
kinda depressing that mumei's peaks post debut are so much higher than everyone else. its like no one else has tourist appeal

>>70671798
You are in the right place then

>>70671752
Laughing to myself seeing the teletubbies at the very bottom, imagine being one of the delusional retards who thought they were gonna be the next big thing

>>70671740
Because you go from 3XXX to 2XXX, it’s a psychological thing.

>>70671740
It's not that 3k is this RINE END HERE level thing, it's that slipping under that is just another thing they wanna avoid.

>>70671740
>So why the hell is anycolor so afraid of their stock price falling below 3k anyway?
some anon said that the japs were talking about 2850 being the magic number of people panic selling

>>70671518
>>70671712
>Mumei vs Fauna
Disgusting

>>70671624
her doomer voice and tone also made for a funny straight man in collabs, but people who talk about "grace" from the perspective of numbers alone or behave like Kronii was some beloved icon before bad bad Mori and homo collabs are mostly high on their own narrative
her reputation was not far from Mori, she blatantly knew nearly nothing about Holo, avoided streaming to no life Minecraft offstream, she didn't really make connections to Holo out of Council bubble and had a very strong normie/reddit appeal by entertaining their memes a ton
and when she didn't play MC or appeal to memes, she was playing Indie game #67, usually something she already finished, which made people create countless bait thread of "why ain't Kronii getting 10k+, you told me she was next Gura?" every fucking week

https://twitter.com/YMx29ktS2UV62KT/status/1764551188190491129

>>70671482
No it's not a pyramid scheme, the risk chain ends with the investor/trader and their brokers. If shit happens and the company bankrupts tomorrow, the losers are the investors who bought pieces of papers and the brokers who secured the loans using those papers as collaterals.
Even so, there are systems put in place to avoid those kinds of situations such as the requirement of a liquidity provider and price movement limits from the exchange to avoid panic selling.

>>70671798
in shioris general, all they do is hate her

>>70671831
Why
You people just watch them and talk about them and don't dig into irl and try to discuss shit involving streams
That's like, the opposite of anti

>>70671831
These people are just tsundere I'm talking about actual antis nijiniggers

grim
nobody cares about mori music anymore huh

>>70671798
Nina kosaka nyfco, scroll down to the comments

>>70671786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1txUWnTpfX8
894,417 views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnX8Lk-iSCo
4,461,479 views
added total: 5,355,896
as Shown in YT Music: 6M

>>70671900
Flip discord servers about gay porn

>>70671798
nyfco nina thread for sisters
2ch/5ch gwelu thread for japs

>>70671925
They were coping earlier by taking about code geass thing and how good jp is doing...

>>70671866
official nippon tv vtubers?

Facebook went down like 20 minutes ago so expect a rise in shitposting from SEA people

>>70671719
By "success" I meant making a decent profit. And yes, they're actually homo tier compared to the big players who actually brought the money to debut them.

>>70671918
that's not even that bad for current music numbers

https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1765043270697267205
>soulmate
Noeldachis....

>>70671962
guests

>>70671834
anon? This is the top 10 in hololive...

>>70671866
UOOOOH LOLI RONOMIYA IN THE MIDDLE

Is it safe to say that a lot of NijiJP viewers have now gone and started fully watching holos only? Or is this only viable to say for NijiEN viewers?

>>70671524
>numbers
Off-topic numbers
>seething
(You) seem upset nobody gives a shit about your botted bowlcuts

But..i thought i was your soulmate..
https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1765043270697267205

>>70671798
Nyfco, BVTMcord.

>>70671968
>they're actually homo tier compared to the big players who actually brought the money to debut them.
lol no
they are verse tier

>>70671977
Ouch
Feel bad for Noel but she cant compete with the gaijin pussy

>>70671852
It's true that mumei doesn't have alot of dedicated viewers.
She only gets big numbers whenever she does touristy events because of the holoEN box.
Fauna would also get consistently 20k+ karaokes if she tried to do them.
Mumei's 3d and outfit numbers are also clearly botted. Fauna's has more vod views.

>>70671829
Mumei has a specific appeal, Fauna has a specific appeal, it's their synergy that makes them such a strong pair in Promise and why they're usually packaged together as one. Trying to separate them and compare them, when they have two different jobs is what shitposters do to attack them

>>70671918
180k-ish in 24 hours is not bad nowadays.

>>70672024
Can't compete against this anon.

>>70671864
The Minecraft shit was way more impactful than people may realize if they're new.
Everyone in Kronii's fanbase was going through it due to her having these wildly threadbare schedules, but were giving her the benefit of the doubt, having to do a lot of busy stuff like projects.
Then the IP for the Minecraft server leaked. And people couldn't get in, but they could at least see who was on and who wasn't.
And then they found out that Kronii was spending like 80% of her non-sleeping free time playing MC off-stream, including on days where she wasn't streaming at all, and throwing up a guerilla would've been the easiest thing in the world. People weren't even expecting her to talk much, just to be there. And she never did. Which was especially rough because this was in her "Farming Bond Points with her chat" era, so they were CLINGY.
Shit made her fanbase primed for freaking out in a way that set up the trigger later down the line.

>>70671977
>implying its not part of noels plan for a 3 way sex orgy

>>70672047
>Fauna vs Mumei
Kill yourself

>>70671610
I don't remember Mumei even leaning to that at all, she was forgetful and adhd as fuck but she never said I forgor as a catchphrase

>>70672071
I look just like this though..

>>70672071
t.orc thumb fingers type this

>>70671972
>>70672058
for mori or anyone?

>>70672071
I look exactly like that if I tan, scandinavians get very brown when they tan

>>70672047
>Fauna would also get consistently 20k+ karaokes if she tried to do them.
anon? are we watching the same vtubers?

Graduate Ceres Fauna
Terminate Ouri Kronii
Suspend Hakos Baelz
Forget IRyS Houzuiki
Impregnate Nanashi Mumei

>>70671977
BaeRySfags, NoeFurefags and TimeRySfags can't stop getting cucked

>>70671681
When will chartanon update this?

>>70672134
He's making completely outlandish claims to shit on both of them

>>70672047
>Fauna would also get consistently 20k+ karaokes if she tried to do them.
No, her karaoke are fun because she is funny, but to get high numbers on karaoke you have to sing better than she does right now, even if she already got better. Fauna's biggest strength is big dedicated core fanbase, but she lacks the tourist appeal for stuff like karaoke and events. It's getting a bit better I think, but she doesn't release music to build that reach.

>>70672131
post tits

I guess only bots buy Nanashi Mumei and Ceres Fauna merch nowadays..

>>70672047
Are we just lying now?
Mumei's outfit has 289k views and 36k likes.
Fauna's outfit only has 249k views and 25k likes.
Mumei's 3d has 449k views and 43k likes.
Fauna's 3d has 301k views and 38k likes.

My internet is extra shit today again

>>70672231
It’s ye olde CCV to VOD view ratio cope timeloop

>>70671624
Kronii has enough charisma that all of holoEN used to orbit her in collabs. But she doesn't care, she does the bare minimum for a paycheck and probably dreams of having a "real career".

>>70672037
Damn, what was YG doing, they should have let Blackpink shill their boy more. Where is Babymonster? Tell them bitch to shill their oppa, they're falling behind.

>>70671740
is there a possibility it's something similar to the sony/bungie thing, where bungie's directors will get replaced with sony's, making it a sony majority, if they continue missing targets? maybe investors will have more pull if it drops below?

famitsu shilling miko's bday live

>>70669675
We should have seen it coming. Twitter screenshot threads have been a fucking plague on 4chan for years. 4chan is always ahead of the rest of the internet. Of course twitter screenshot videos would become huge.

>>70672231
Imagine seriously replying to an anti post, lmao

>>70672139
This but impregnate all of them

Watching this account turning into a Hololive shill is funny

[VSPO EN news]
Maro Q&A begins
https://twitter.com/VSPO_EN/status/1764456569377603773

>>70670771
Kiara have excellent work ethic by EN standards and is one of the few EN members that seem to actually care about being a holo (treating it like a real job basically), her audience and hololive audience in general that's why she often gets frustrated trying to organize things with this lazy whores that would rather coast and with management denying them the same support JP enjoys. She also streams exclusively in debuff hours and often debuff games but CCV is not everything don't let SEAmonkey shitposting cloud your judgment.

>>70672300
Imagine dreaming of having a real career as a fucking english voice actor, dubs fucking suck and changes the story of the anime.
>my dream in life is to become a cultural vandal and destroy the culture I am meant to portray
and they let her in into hololive, fuck omega

>>70672047
Fauna would probably struggle to break 10k after a certain point if she spammed karaoke if I'm being honest.

>>70672306
>Damn, what was YG doing,
not all industry plants are a success or are in it to succeed

>>70671977
It still feels weird how these two found each other.

>>70672345
Oh so they didn't forget about their new branch huh

>>70672231
That's actually not bad views ratio on outfit reveal, considering a day difference and less favorable timeslot, but that likes difference is huge for some reason.
Fauna's 3D got hit hard by being taken down for copyright, people who would watch it in that timespan couldn't do that and moved on.

>>70672360
>. She also streams exclusively in debuff hours
It would be fine if she streamed in debuff (i.e. EU) hours but she fucking streams when EU is still at work
>>70672345
That question has the stench of management, I bet one of the managers wrote it

>>70672326
>>70672337
Maybe if they had shilled it earlier she wouldn't have lost to Pekora lol

>>70672417
>a day's difference
anon outfit vods grow at a glacier pace after the first day or 2 unless you're first army or gura. if i'm being generous 3-5k a day

>>70672119
On average.

>>70672337
the author even coined an antonym for miorehaji み俺恥
"miko i'm proud of you" miorehokori み俺誇

>>70672300
Kromei were once "How to do Yuri ship in English sphere 101", the best ship HoloEN ever produced... And then Kronii threw it all away by no stream, no collab and then yabbdo.

>>70672345
>show people that gaming girls can be cute & cool
I don't think we need VSPO EN to finally open the eyes of people to that possibility.

>>70672379
no one in Holo besides Ollie thinks of being a "cultural vandal", Bae, Mori and Kronii seem perfectly fine just being left alone and dong their own thing

>>70672077
too /u/ for me

>>70672401
I mean Flare has always had a love for the overseas but she isnt able to learn a new language so it is a match made in heaven. That Flare isnt close to Kiara even though Kiara is a german speak (Flare loves german shit) and Kiara knows japanese just speaks to how off putting Kiara is

>>70671681

>>70672467
Lost what? Miko got the gold today, meanwhile Pekora can't even get silver and beat Subaru lol

Surely IRyS can hit 1 million during her live right

>>70672076
it didn't help that aside from getting the influx of new people, a lot of her fan were the more schizo/hair-trigger tempered ex-deadbeats going for "better Mori"
kinda funny how that shit happened again with Nerissa, all things considered

>>70672345
>vspoen targetting female en fps players
pretty grim prospect considering that the usual western female fps streamers are nadia and sssniperwolf an the other pool which they can get which is the russian one is unlikely to join

>>70672626
>No EN
Don't care

>>70672610
Go back, youre just throwing shit at the walls in your holo vs holo now.

>>70671957
>2ch/5ch gwelu thread for japs
I've tried visiting this threads but somehow they're antiing niji more there? idgi

>>70672610
I still remember clicking into kronii's stream only to check how will her tits look like in 3d, then instantly left

>from catalog

>>70672611
Keep coping 53piss

>>70672513
Anon み俺誇 isn't new

>>70671798
Facebook if you wanna see pagpag and indog antis, but it's down ATM so if you see any rise in shitposting activity, that's why.

>>70672716
oops

>>70672337
Does somebody have the image in the 4th panel without the tags in the corners? I want to make it my desktop wallpaper

>>70672690
>I've tried visiting this threads but somehow they're antiing niji more there?
nah they anti holo there more but there are some instances where they anti niji especially if they liver is making the corpo look bad
its why a ton of them are harassing the idios girls especially pink hair and the different eye color girls

>>70672626
No? She's 7k away. She's not gaining that in one stream.

Here it comes, the final hurdle.

>>70672809
Yes, I hacked Cover's servers and disabled the overlay on my end only during the stream, I'll share the image here in a second bro

>>70672677
the best example of a quintessential vspo member would be doki but she's been rendered radioactive by her company, and i HIGHLY suspect one of the reasons they went on with a zaion-style termination was to ruin her chances out of spite. nevertheless i think we can see similar chuubas like her pop up in the indie sphere eventually from her influence, but i wonder who they had picked beforehand with a smaller talent pool to pick from for now

>>70672833
unarchive vertical endurance karaoke stream w/ announcement (with my friends!)

>>70672690
i think you might've wandered into the gwelu thread in 2chan (not 2ch, that's different) which is actually a nijianti thread

>>70672875

>>70672701
now I get it

>>70672875

>>70672875
>>70672899
>>70672913

>>70672864
Ennacuck status?

Sex the baby

Luna took over the universe and none of you even cared...

>>70670739
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

Somewhat stale news:
>DAOKO x Suisei hosting a JWave radio program
https://twitter.com/Daoko_staff/status/1764524330531323998
>Holo X Break steam page up
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2719150/Holo_X_Break/
>Restaurant named after takamori
https://twitter.com/remio_de/status/1764673512646836386
>Kamitsubaki auditions
https://twitter.com/kamitsubaki_jp/status/1764940739187032139
>NijiEN removed from OffKai Expo
https://twitter.com/OffKaiExpo/status/1764837543856754980
>Mio hoodie likely to go on sale again
https://twitter.com/ookamimio_sab/status/1764912521318916490
>VARK is closing down
https://vark.co.jp/2024/03/04/announcement-2/
>Site for pairing companies with vtuberes matching the products they want promoted launched
https://www.sucoad.jp
>Yagoo interview in Nikkei Entertainment
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1764550972645458114
>Lui interview in Nikkei Entertainment
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1764516214938968358
>Anycolor allows margin trading
https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/5032/ir_material1/225562/00.pdf
>Weatheroid Type A Airi cameo in Shangri La episode
https://files.catbox.moe/aegiy8.png
>Enogu one-man live announced
https://twitter.com/anzu15_225/status/1764607509913112946
>5th fes keypads
https://twitter.com/tsukumo_netshop/status/1765014412338086294

Significantly stale news:
>Dacapo and other ARP members won Thailand Social Awards in category Virtual Creator
https://twitter.com/SocialAwardsTH/status/1763523043899633974
>HoloJam 3 entered voting phase
https://itch.io/jam/holojam-3
>StreamAssets website closing for foreseeable future
https://twitter.com/streamassets/status/1764087047533310246
>First Stage Production 3rd gen announced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq92GMlaPXE
>Doki raises 252 thousand dollars for charity
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1764401960235753664
>holoX x Dodecamin
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1764485926372208845

>>70672701
Machine learning is finally proving useful.

>>70672960
Where's Gura...

>>70671430
>>70671493
Kronii had all the potential to be Council's strongest member and even the second strongest EN at some point. High tourist potential and a pretty strong core fanbase, able to hold 10k CCV with fucking powerwash simulator and dwarfing the other girls during collabs (the Ender dragon collab before Sana's graduation is a good example).
Problem is she never gave a single fuck. She kept spamming debuff kusoge, going on random breaks, never went out of her way to organize collabs or try interesting stream ideas. And then as we all know she went beyond and actively sabotaged herself with the Tempiss drama. A shame.

>>70672809
kanauru posted the whole transformation sequence in Reddit
You can get a screenshot from there or even ask kanauru about it
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1b74t1s/i_was_in_charge_of_elite_mikos_mahou_shoujou/

>>70672899
They should retweet this

>>70671977
Noel Bae collab soon

>>70672960
I didn't pay attention was enjoying the lap pillow

>>70673003
Thank you anon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHead6nY21k

>>70671834
This is ranking for top 10. And they haven’t streamed for a week already.

So yeah I found a Korean forum, and Hololive nowhere to be found EXCEPT these girl have their own board
>Shion
>Gura
>Kanade
>Fucking RUSHIA

>>70672701
So, it's just like NTR

>>70672998
Who's the bigger waste of potential, Kronii or Laplus? Kronii has bigger fall of grace but Lapu's theoretical ceiling is higher for me, tough call

>>70673078
Bae becoming Noel’s Hamster. Im imaging bae will see noel schlick one to subaru then hamster bae goes horny and schlicks 1 herself.

>>70672071

>>70671752
Mumei taking out IRyS' brown elf wife

>>70672998
council's 2 strongest members (kronii and mumei) turned out to be the ones that gave literal 0 shits
its a shame really, at least mumei isn't on kronii's level of not giving a fuck

>>70671798
/hlgg/

>>70672960
I was watching, I just don't tend to post my wife here much.

The fleshtuber asked Kobo to hook him up with Gura lol

Now this is some next-level clickbait from Clippers
He sprayed water on her

>>70673154
i can clearly see ina and chloe there

>>70672546
sadly kronii only loves sally

>>70673154
>skibidi toilet
I hate zoomers so much.

>>70673209
Fuck off already

>>70673240
ID was a mistake.

>>70673176
La+ just by being a JP and having more potential resources

>>70673240

>>70672960
all shall bow to her eventually, it's inevitable

>>70673240
1 step ahead of OTV. Smart. Kek.

>>70673154
anon bae, nerissa, chloe and goldship is there

>>70673240
I'll fucking nuke indognesia

>>70673154
it'll never stop being funny how much discussion Gura generates compared to how little she does in the scene

>>70673154 (me)
>>70673315
>>70673269
I missed Chloe, Ina, Nerissa and Bae. It seem they don't have dedicated board for Vtuber here, only individual thread

>>70672875
>>70672899
>>70672913
nice

Rate the Schedule
>Sally Collab

>>70673240
She's getting ollie'd

>>70673268
she make me wet

>>70673240
You guys still want ID4?

>>70673347
thers like 715 boards anon and im sure you missed a ton more

>>70673240
Sounds like Kobo is getting Ollie'd soon. ID can't stop hiring these kinds of girls.

>>70673353
We love Sally here

So Rica said that even after leaving corpo. Management still provided support for her.
Wonder what they did to help her.

>>70672571
This we already have cute and cool.

it finally shipped

>>70673342

>>70673240
which one?

>>70673240
timestamp doko

>>70671434
EN Sisters hated Kotoka for streaming in Japanese JP ones for skipping the Chinese sweatshop but they only care about that one time when outsiders got involved, human psychology works in mysterious ways.

>>70673403
Might have set her up with some professionals to help with her mental health and budgeting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YYoKG7f8Q0

My wallet...

>>70673380
>More kaela
Sure why not

>>70673176
Lap is retarded and gets shit numbers but ultimately she's good at her role and if she's happy chasing eceleb cock at least she seems to know what she wants to do. Kronii is just a neverending trainwreck as a streamer honestly.

>>70673240
Another clout chaser, tell him to get behind otk in the queue

>>70673466
Well, at least the Yen is cheap as fuck these days.

>>70672584
Didn’t bae drag mumei into a homo collab?

>>70673403
probably budgeting and access to the old studio if she wants

>>70673387
Yeah I sure did
Here, HoloEN at the end

>>70672998
She has imposter syndrome and correctly believed her early popularity was unearned. She's all about low stress indie games where there aren't any backseaters to drive her crazy.

>>70673514
>still cant capitalise
You've been trying to get anons to shit on Mumei all thread

>>70673176
La+,she can sing and she is part of HoloShillox...to bad she try a towa-ed and fail miserably

>>70673176
Laplus is actually doing things and selling tons of merch. Kronii isn't doing shit.

>>70673427
you know, even streaming stuff aside, Gura's general output is very... generic
compare to Miko/Peko/Marine who heavily mix up solo gaming streams and singing streams with fan-interactive content, various collabs, trend-addressing streams etc. etc.
then you have huge projects, song/album drops, sololive/showa concert and so on

with Gura it's usually just game stream into karaoke and that's about it for entirety of her career with like singular outliers, but by sheer charisma she's put on the level of these three

>>70673240
What did she respond?

>>70672626
Ask her put a counter on stream.

>>70673353
Would be ok schedule if she had a lot of goodwill from the holobox

>>70673475
>2 more ollies
Worth the price?

>>70673514
homo collabs doesn't exist before tempus

>>70673570
>she's put on the level of these three
ahum, let's not get ridiculous here

>>70673154
>Rushia still
Koreans and NTR are like peanut butter and jelly
borderline impossible to find a Korean NSFW artist that draws anything BUT ntr

>>70673582
She has been for her last couple of streams

>>70673176
La+ is based fuck off

>>70673353
>NPC Stream

>>70673570
>with Gura it's usually just game stream into karaoke
lmao more like membership post into month long hiatus
ENsharts will really make up all sorts of cope to deny the fact that their only successful vtuber ever soft retired years ago

>>70673353
What is a sally

>>70671216
>Mumei lost the lower half of her right leg in a car crash
What the fuck.

>>70673603
for casual viewer and in practical standing that's pretty much true, no need to get super nitpicky

>>70673240
What was Kobo's response?

>>70673570
Gura's only real appeal is uoh ToT but you get called a sister for pointing it out. She's wonder bread as far as holoEN goes.

>>70673176
Laplus is based and funny while receiving fan letters from elementary girls

>>70673659
Pretty sure it's her best friend who got married and had a kid recently.

>>70673663
>drama tourists don't know the wheelchair shitposts
I'm tired bros...

>>70673570
I feel like the non Japanese speaking ENs don't bother with the hassle of getting management to approve special streams. It was either Gura or Ame who said permissions used to be way more relaxed than it is now.

The fleshtuber has now asked Kobo if they can do an offcollab with Pekora in Japan lmao

>>70673466
anon....

>>70673659
her BFF/crush/sister

>>70673707
Gonna chuu both lips

>>70673747
bro you can't just say these outlandish claims with a timestamp and a live TL

>>70673555
Uhm actually Kronii organized the Crab Game collab

>>70673707
Chuuuu chu

The fleshtuber now told Kobo if they can have an orgy with Marine wtf

>>70673727
>perms cope again
lol

>>70673697
that's the thing tho, it's not only ToT factor because she doesn't really act very loli-ish most of the time and there's also a bulk of casual viewers that just tune in cause she's funny/has a pleasant way of speaking
but all of that generates a ton of buzz that doesn't really feel like it aligns with what she actually accomplishes
it's peak celebrity culture and it's fascinating

it's funny how easy it is to make shit up about kobo knowing that no one actually watch her

>>70673747
And this is /#/ problem how?

>>70672584
>>70673514
>bae iofi ollie and mumei
>collab with jp holostars
>mumei doesnt know japanese
>bae iofi and ollie(kindof) do
Really makes you think

One of those oshi dot boards from a Singapore convention
Furea...

>>70673727
I'm not really delving into why those streams ain't happening and more on the fact that her popularity is so exceptional even in their absence

The fleshtuber is now saying that Fauna is a worthless whore and the runt of promise due to her pathetic sub count

>>70673805
Don't worry, if it's real Jurard would speak up about it for no reason

>>70673808
>Holoboard
>Holothread
simple as

>>70673176
La+ for sure, probably one of the biggest fuckups in Cover's history
>HoloX debuts as the gen with the biggest marketing push in Hololive's history
>get 3Ds in record time, bunch of Hologras, a fucking manga and countless other events
>the gen works as a cohesive unit with a strong theme and narrative push
>La+ is literally the centerpiece of it
>she goes menhera, stops straming for months and returns to become budget Towa and spamming FPS shit on Twitch for 3k CCV
>whole thing falls apart and HoloX is now just another Holo gen doing their own thing
I don't blame Cover for going all in with HoloX but the whole thing obviously didn't work and La+ was a terrible choice for a leader

>>70673832
>including graduates and terminated members

>>70673832
Waitttttt this is the same one from last month

>>70673832
>Furea
aaaieeee

>>70673832
Kiara...

>>70673832
Fauna being that high for a non-NA convention is atypical

>>70673805
read these >>70671038 >>70671970 >>70672733

>>70672097
yeah because you are a tourist

>>70673542
Is there a single fucking EN girl who doesn't have imposter syndrome? I'm pretty sure Fauna talked about it a couple streams ago.

>>70673790
>now told Kobo if they can have
Learn English before you shitpost.

>>70673748
I am not sure what you are trying to say JP chat is better

>>70673951
In Fauna's case it isn't imposter syndrome

>>70673832
Score 1 for Anya!

>>70673832
Is this a non vtuber convention?

>>70673951
How can JP girl avoid imposter syndrome in the first place?? Like each First Army are at the level where companies and organizations kneel to them and chase after them for business oppoturnity

>>70673872
It's a learning experience, now Cover is better at recognising red flags and filtering applicants.

>>70673951
sadly anon, no, that part is also kinda related in mori's new song

>>70674004
It's the combined results of "EOY 23 and ACE 002" apparently
I don't know specifics about either of them sadly

>>70673722
leave it be. I have the pasta on a .txt
and I'm not sharing

>>70673983
_____ඞ_____

>>70673872
I don't like her
She is, how do I say it...a very typical attention-seeking e-girl, hate those kind

>>70673872
Honestly having canon leader is a terrible idea unless the girl has actual leadership qualities and pretty much was leading the gen pre-debut without managerial interference already

>>70674023
Are they?

>>70673832
Really, aloe that high?

>>70673776
When AI learns hands we will all kneel.

>>70673872
And they hate her for it, rumao
>>41492992
>>70385382

>>70674083
You know, I always wonder how funny it would be if like for example, Flare or Noel is the star of Sankisei and lead the gen, because in a normal fantasy story, the human are often the protagonist

LA RATA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohMBQsgkKMk

>>70674131
Looot of people still to this fucking day feel a savior complex towards her

>>70671146
wtf does that mean?

>>70673832
This is hilarious.
I live in Singapore and at least from my anecdotal experience this is extremely inaccurate in terms of popularity.

>>70674023
Hope we don't get more towas in the future

>>70673832
Thats was posted last month retardchama and was a drawing section of theb convection. So of course ina got high there

>>70674082
lol those 2022 end year when she active on her rm was funny

>>70673832
Convention clearly lopsided in favor of women in the attendance

>>70672702
keep seething cuckfaggy lmaooo

>>70674181
It means AnyKuro is actually panicking and trying to drum up interest in their stocks so that it will look good by the time the investor meeting happens in 2 weeks.

>>70674129
>makes IRyS shill his merch
Thank you Cover, glad you could get these red-hair girl and boy together

>>70674023
>tempagpag
>dass rite homie
>YBDBD
>5billion perms a week
>Anyblack has better management
>1v1 me & support the cause

At some point, (You) have to accept this is what they want. This is the direction they're going.

>>70674129
The homos are immune to banal things such as standards and quality control

>>70674179
I like Bae's album and thought Gekirin and Fight Song go hard... and then Overkill dropped
really didn't think anyone in HoloEN would go there

>>70673551
>60k poly
The phone will explode

>>70674231
The learning experience in the case of the homos was
>just fucking make them different branches and let the girls seclude them at this point, this isn't working