/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>70640288
And Ninisani has the most psychotic sister fanbase

but enough about the milord SEA guzzlers

They have the most retarded fanbase in the entire VTuber pool

Organic growth bros.... we lost....

And that's why it will last.
If your entire fanbase is made up of one kind of fan, then you're stuck in a certain role that you can't escape from (e.g. Yuko Yurei)

>>70640288
Cope sister

>>70640288
Keep up the fight, sister. Any day now Niji will win.

>>70640288
>Organic
>Tomato
Of course!

>>70640288
So you are saying she's a GMO tomato?

>>70640288
>She has the least organic fanbase in the entire VTuber pool
She's a tomato what are you talking about?

>>70642064
Much like seedless watermelon, the tomatoes and cucumbers you buy at the store are genetically modified strains to produce an infertile food plant that does not have hard seeds. The soft white seeds you are used to seeing in both tomato and cucumber are an intended byproduct of GMO, because without doing that the plants would produce hard dark seeds that are indigestible and hard to bite into.

>>70640288
All the "unity bros" dropped Nijikeks in favor of her. I wonder why......

>>70644100
Dumbass, seedless varieties of watermelon and most other fruits predate genetic modification, those were made through traditional selective plant hybridisation. The white seeds of your typical grocery store tomato are actually plantable, and purchasable seeds for planting the same varieties are the same colour and type, they just are outside the tomato.

>>70640288
GMO Vtuber....

>>70640288
80% of her viewers are drama fag

>>70640590
NIJI BTFO
OFFKAI WINS

>>70648639
Man, dramafags are truly dedicated viewers. They're so loyal to keep watching streams with zero drama in them.

>>70640288
no less organic than any corpo fanbase, literally Niji's doing after all

>>70642064
>>70644100
>>70645305
Never change, /vt/

Sorry you lost your flight and hotel money for Offkai, sister. I'm sure you can make it back in about ten years.

>>70644100
>laughs from a country where GMO shit is actually banned

>>70640288
A blank paper from her charity event is worth more than your birthday stream, Shannon.

>>70652144
You realise that's a bad thing right? It means your government is actually retarded and prefers to make decisions based on whinging rather than facts. You wouldn't happen to come from a certain SEA nation that suffered a major famine because they listened to some scammer telling them GMOs are bad, right?

>>70644100
finally an ACTUAL schizo

>>70652327
>You wouldn't happen to come from a certain SEA nation
no, I'm European. we just learned from others' mistakes.

>>70652327
He's probably italian. That's the only european nation that I can think of that banned GMO. Nevermind that they still use GMOs, they just can't grow it in Italy. Which is doubly retarded

>>70640288
OP has the least organic post in the entire board

>>70640288
its been weeks already, can sisters finally stop seething at her?

>least organic
We're free range now, bitch.

>>70653169
Hungarian, actually. GMO in products is extremely rare due to mandatory labeling and no one buys that shit.

>>70640288

>>70640288
>She farms the most sister SEEEEEEETH in the entire VTuber pool

>>70640288
And?

>>70640288
yep. probably 100k of her actual fans from niji (if that), and the rest are tourists, saviorfags, niji-antis, and SJWs from Twitter and reddit who believe her sob stories and crocodile tears

>>70645305
>The white seeds of your typical grocery store tomato are actually plantable, and purchasable seeds for planting the same varieties are the same colour and type
Depends
Most hydroponic varieties will struggle to take even in perfect conditions and hydroponics is probably more common for the EU
I know it is here in Australia

>>70655576
Cope

>>70655576
...You do remember she had the most fans out of all the niji females (except pomu) right?

Her fan base is 10% actual dragoons, 40% dramafags hopping on a bandwagon and 50% bots. I wonder how much views she'd have with no drama attached

>>70640288
I wouldnt call it the least organic fanbase but most of her fans arent otaku/vtuber fans

>>70655945
Bots, huh? Are you sure about that? Are you really sure you're sure?

>>70655576
Sweet sweet tourist tears that never knew that Selen carried Niji

>>70655576
...You don't even have any idea how many assets Selen herself paid for and commissioned for Nijisanji, do you?

>>70640288
So true sister

>>70655945
I wonder what a world would be like if Nijisanji operated without crippling incompetence or exploitation.
I wonder what Elira, Enna, Millie, Vox and their gaggle of sycophants would be like if they were honest professionals instead of an immature cult of high schoolers.
Riku wonders what it would be like to see Nijisanji EN not undergo a PR disaster and his touted western pillar crumble before his eyes.
But unfortunately for Nijisanji fans this is the world we live in.

>>70653169
Its not just Italy. Its the orange in picrel. Aka all the shitholes.
Kinda funny how the more GMOs a country uses, the healthier a population is on average.

>>70655277
>Hungarian
OOF
As I said here >>70656282
You nutjobs poisoning yourself with "Organic" pesticides while we use actual science to get one of the highest life expectancies on earth despite lower pcGDP than USA or the rest of western europe besides Portugal.

>>70640288
Using any YouTube metric to measure the size of a fanbase is stupid
All it gives you is info on how many people support that particular creator
Supporters watch content
Fans buy merch, go to concerts, meet and greets shit like that

>>70640288
>least organic fanbase
You don't eat fanbases anon, it's not chicken.

>>70656282
the orange countries in that image aren't nearly the biggest shitholes.

>>70656349
I don't see any particular correlation with this >>70656282 map.

>>70656282
>spain
So sustainable their farms even became a movie set for Bladerunner 2029.

>>70656282
the orange countries in that image aren't nearly the biggest shitholes.

>>70640288
So true sister. We, Chinese bugmen and our Communist Party hivemind are most organic lifeform there is.

>>70640288
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>>70656271
case in point.

>>70655945
Hardcode fanbase vs potential fanbase are two different things. Doki just maximized her potential fanbase due to the spectacle surrounding her firing, and her good PR. Hardcore fanbase is built over the years and requires more cultivation. Retaining fans depends on working for it, which she can do.

>>70656899
It's funny how half of this thread bit the bait and the other went all in on gmo debate, I love it

>>70656271
Nijisanji at their best can produce massive hype and excitement, like with Salome or the ILUNA debut. The problem is the culture and management. Salome was quickly instantly sabotaged by other livers who were upset about her rapid success, while the ILUNA picks were nowhere near as good as the hype suggested, most of them were kinda mediocre, and they weren't able to foster the talent of the ones with most potential, like Maria, Ren and Scarle. The biggest success in EN was Luxiem, but they eventually squandered that also.

>>70640288
Sister is mad over her already booked hotel and flight to offkai but unlike selen not appearing at anime impulse you got plenty of time to cancel and refund.
Karma needs to come back crashing on these hoes harder desu.

>>70657041
wait is that what happened? I just assumed Salome was botted or something and the algorithm dropped her once they stopped.

>>70656349
it's our shitty healthcare system, anon.

Not reading sister schizo meltdown posts QRD on what their new plan of attack?

>>70657123
another hitlist

>>70653169
Mate GMO is banned in many European countries. We have all but banned it in Sweden for example, its ridiculously hard to get a GMO product approved in our market so basically noone tries

>>70656919
I can't tell if you're saying she doesn't have hardcore fans? She was dominating in Niji and I feel like all her long term fans followed her.

>>70656282
You are interpreting picrel like a retard. Actually go and check green countries policies on GMO. Sweden uses close to zero and are very healthy

>>70657095
I remember people talking about other livers being upset about her success, how Salome didn't "work for it", and how she wasn't welcomed on the main branch for a while. I think she legitimately was a big success at the start, and wasn't so tied to the Nijisanji brand either. I think most people just got bored of the gimmick tho. Bots can always be a factor, but I would apply that to all companies.

There are no consistent 6view chuubas, but events for both NijiJP and HoloJP often reach those numbers. So the potential is always there.

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>>70657183
NTA but the real problem with GMO is Roundup anyway. That shit is actual poison that causes birth defects in humans.

>>70657186
She obviously has hardcore fans. But like my point is that there are different kinds of viewers.

1. Hardcore fans that show to all streams.
2. Fans that occasionally show up, but not always.
3. Casual fans that mostly show up to events and karaokes.
4. Tourists that only show up if something really big is happening.

With the return stream Doki got all groups, and probably even got some viewers that don't watch VTubers, but were curious about the drama.

>>70640288
Niji accusing others of "forcefully" acquiring fans again?

>>70644100
>genetically modified strains
You do know that farmers do a selective breeding before this genetic modify come around right? I believe some countries do ban genetic modify product too.

>>70640288
*sigh* And this is why you don't try and bite into things that's bad for your health, Niji. You already got too many liver failures as is.

>>70655987
why did she never get these numbers before the drama?

>>70640288
If you mean the cringiest then yeah.

>>70640288
>least organic fanbase
well yeah, since it doesn't include any niji organs

>>70657617
She was the #1 NijiEN performer by views with well over 800K subscribers.

>>70640288
Sisters coping hard.

Both dokifags and nijinigs are trash desu

>>70640288
>fat laughing suicidal bitch slowly falling back into irrelevancy
I dont even give a shit about Kurosanji, I just want your dramafaggots to die off with your shitty oshi.

The most natty fanbase in the entire vtuber pool

>>70657617
Because nijisanji was a stinky hellhole that most of the vtuber fanbase outside of niji fucking despised for years?, Their attitude, The fujobaiting, The shitty attitude that they were more "free" than holo cause they coomer baited more brazenly than myth/council did, Also the bootlicking for an obviously shitty company, Which selen was front and center in participating in, If it was say.. rosemi or petra that was in doki's position, and she was still in niji trying to stream admidst the drama, You fuckers would be saying "Won't you guys please think of selen?, she did nothing wrong!" Cause you are tribalistic fuckwads

>>70657668
So how come she wasn't pulling Gura numbers and was losing out in views to Enna?

>>70657868
I don't think she was losing out to views to Enna in December, but obviously the drama boost got her to Gura territory, it's only that she was pretty much the best NijiEN had to offer before that allowed her to do that though. Unlike say, Zaion, who was among the least popular NijiEn had to offer, barely active for a month. It's not the drama alone that catapulted her, but the fact that she was already loved by so many and they all spread the word.

Okay but why is she so trash at Apex tho?

>>70640288
>FORCEFULLY ACQUIRED FANS

>>70657617
She wasn't able to reach her max potential due to NijiEN bad management. Also because of lack of drama.

>>70657617
Because Nijisanji fucking sucks and never actually supported her. What a miracle that as soon as she gets a real manager and several assistants, she starts pumping out projects and boosting her numbers like crazy?

>>70657989
Cuz she gets salty as fuck when she performs badly in tournaments, so I don't think she's been tryharding apex like she did before joining Niji.

>>70657868
>lying sister

>>70640288
Because as we all know, if there’s one thing any guy hates it’s a girl that plays video games and laughs at everything you say

>>70657766
>slowly falling back into irrelevancy
Sorry you couldn't go to offkai, sis. Maybe the next con?

>>70657989
>top 500 in the world

>>70658391
To be fair that was in like 2018 or 2019 or something like that. She was top whatever in Overwatch way back when, as well. She's fallen off because she doesn't do the autism grind anymore tho

>>70640288

go home cliqueMember you're drunk.

>>70658166
Do you know how averages work?

>>70655945
Dramachads transition to real fans
It's a transition that the Bible is okay with so of course zisters can't acknowledge it

>>70658553
Yes? And selen had a higher average viewercount than Enna.

>>70640288
Incorrect. That would be pippa

>>70657868
Niji post-Zaion was a debuff for the female members, particularly those that didn't attach themselves to the sister/luxiem audience well. Much of the male audience became disgruntled and turned away, at least until their favorites leave the Niji baggage behind.

>>70658774
No, you fool. Averages take all views on streams and videos into account. Selen was in the company longer, had more big events hosted on her channel and streamed longer which would inflate the average. Enna started having more viewers than her in the last half a year Selen was in the company which doesn't make up for the two years of Selen having more views too

>>70659401
You dont know what an average is, sister, every point of yours is backwards

>>70657989
Washed up due to not playing one game, doesn't perform that well under pressure in tournament environment, suffers from larp debuff where she (believes) needs to keep the viewers entartained (plays a lot better offstream).