/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

If I watch a stream on my monitor head, does it count for CCV?

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>「My Dearest」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover) *new*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s
>「DAYBREAK FRONTLINE」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>「名前のない怪物」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>>70642695
Woah. Look at that Choco goddess

>>70642763
Ennacuck status?

It was nice of mori to make an MV about me even though I don't watch her

>>70642695
Recent clip numbers
>>70587876
>>70587907
>>70587941

>>70642540
i don't understand where these kinds of people come from, this nigga is watching Hololive, a fucking Idol vtuber agency

What a fun night a lot happening quickly

>not a Star Rail op

Reminder that Haachama wants YOU to watch out for glowies

If I were better at video editing, I'd absolutely edit the scene of the TV-heads getting their skulls bashed in into this part and /#/ on Mike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4jU3hSUom0
It's a perfect summary

>>70642771
> almost all 1M
> 2 at 2M
Nice. Her music is doing well

>>70642795
she's been making songs about me her entire career, she might just have a crush on me

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>40,612: Miko (Hololive)
>40,088: Marine (Hololive)
>34,013: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,652: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,506: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,855: Hinano (VSPO)
>15,758: Mio (Hololive)
>15,154: Polka (Hololive)
>12,784: Nerissa (Hololive)
>12,736: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>12,500: Ichinose (VSPO)
>11,320: Flare (Hololive)
>10,453: Nene (Hololive)
>10,101: Raden (Hololive)

>>70642758
No, but you can count numbers displayed in your head now.

>>70642665
I mean yeah moris audience has never been the most idolfag one out there.
Would be funny if we used it as our divegrass anthem

>>70642665
Idols/entertainers are pretty susceptible to abusive agencies, so I don't mind calling that part out at all. But that is the business side, not the fandom.

wait, this isn't /choc/

>>70642763
This was Enna ticking down rather than Doki ticking up kek

/#/s family status?

>>70642351
i am well aware that numberfagging is objectively evil and i have no shame about doing it here where the girls know very well they should NOT come. I'm totally against doing that shit outside of here, this is supposed to please horse-racing autism, not to make some poor girls want to kill themselves because they aren't popular.

tl;dr: kill all containment-breaking monkeys (parrot, BVTM)

*YESTERDAY’S EN TALLY OF THE DAY*
>03/4 TALLY:
12,784: Nerissa (Hololive) | Poppy Playtime
9,868: Bijou (Hololive) | Sekiro
6,601: Wilson (Nijisanji) | Smash Bros. Offcollab


>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 2024
1) Bijou (Hololive) - 28,629 - Keep Talking And Nobody Explodes w/ Kaela
2) Bijou (Hololive) - 34,018 - Unarchived Karaoke
3) Nerissa (Hololive) - 34,981 - Mamarissa Debut
4) Nerissa (Hololive) - 12,784 - Poppy Playtime

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
2x: Bijou, Nerissa

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
14p: Bijou
13p: Nerissa
3p: Dokibird, Fauna
1p: IRyS, Mori, Wilson

I didn't realize shiori was liveposting.

>>70642934
thanks for passing by though

>>70642959
>numberfagging is objectively evil
I got my degree in numberfagging, anon...

>>70642595
Anon, that's insensitive, many anons ITT have lost their balls in the last few years betting.
Pouring out one for my numberbros who've lost their balls.

>not a Unicorn Overlord OP

/#/ - Numbers' SUPERVILLAIN STATUS?

Why do we live rent free in global's head? they need a new hobby other than stalking splits and this thread. You can spot a globalfag from a mile away in here.

grayfag over here isn't caught up on his Mori lore and doesn't know she likes idols now

https://youtu.be/ISLXXVPe0xg
100 Dorya!!!

>>70642540
Holos aren't even part of the traditional idol industry they are in a walled garden by themselves and currently, treated really well.

YouTube frames don’t have ads on them.

have fun

I just noticed the botter only botted Mori and not Ina, so he is an anti cgdct and not just a Fauna anti?

>>70642964
unhinged chuuba

>>70643018
I'm confused, was Mori shitting on /#/ or on Anycolor?

>>70642959
BASED. And i wholeheartedly agree. Idk why the rest of the board cries about our shit spilling onto the catalogue. We'd like for our retardation to stay in this thread. Blame the jannies for not immediately striking that shit down.

>>70643065
kek thanks anon

>>70643065
My hand looks so evil

>>70643034
This is unironically THE MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD.

>>70643018
I now have an official collab song with a Holomen. I'm inclining!

>>70643036
>hasn't even finished the song

>>70642959
>numberfagging is objectively evil

Mori loves us

>>70642959
I think it's funny we mindbroke nijiEN though

>>70643050
Oshi No Ko season 2 will kill Hololive!

>>70643034
>Why do we live rent free in global's head?
>Talking about global unprovoked
Who's rent free in who's head?

>>70643102
She's just mad that unicorns refuse to support her but give money to her friends instead

>>70643072
He/she is primarily an IRyS anti and became a Gura and Fauna anti because he also hates this place.

>>70643041
Happy birthday Migo

>>70643018
Winning as always!

>>70642996
Never forget the Great Eunech Movement of 2022. When anons were rationing their remaining ball. Not balls. BALL

>>70643014

>>70643072
Retard. His most common targets are Biboo and FWMC.

>>70643197
This is literally me.

>>70643018
Now all we need to do is win the league and we've succeeded. God i cant wait. Jap has saved the team! Oh and our new and improved NumbersQueen.....

>>70643018
We are necessary evil. Slowly we're turning Mori into a unicorn friendly, feminine chuuba and the Deadbeats are thanking us for it. Bae is next

>>70643102
The song itself seemed like she was talking about some corpo suits that measure the girls value and discard them if they don't measure up. But I have no idea, didn't seem like it was about /#/ since the only power anyone has here is to choose not to watch.

I have an important question for you, /#/.

Why has HoloEN not returned to a Texas con or event since their first one with Gura, Ame and Mori? That line was absolutely massive--one of the largest of the day and started hours in advance--and they filled the entire conference hall two times over. It seems shocking to me that they haven't done it again any time since given the demand and opportunity to plug merch.

This is entirely a numbers-related concern and not at all related to the fact that I live in Texas.

>>70642923
very relevant when /morig/ and /#/ clash someday

>>70643018
We need a villain theme song

So what the tldr of Mori song

Total Yaoi Faggots Termination
We only love girls here
All male vtubers are gay and cringe

>>70643319
Feminization of mori... I don't think it will ever succeed

We’re getting raided by global right now, hence the Mori hate. This is a Mori love thread.

>>70643197
Tactical benefits of this dance?

>losing 200 listeners each day
HOLY GRIM

>>70643072
The botter is the Ennafag. He primarily hates IRyS but also targets Gura and Fauna because they are also popular here. For some weird reason though he actually bots Mumei occasionally despite her also being popular here.

>>70643065
Can he join the next drivegrass team?

>>70643371
BASED

>>70643360
It's Mori shouting she's /here/ for the thousandth time

>>70643142
Holoen4 is HoloOmega

>>70643319
>Bae is next
I fucking doubt it.

>>70643386
At least pretend to fit in, tourist.

>>70643018
Mag-fucking-neto

Now that the dust has settled, who is the song actually about?

>>70642959
>I'm totally against doing that shit outside of here
Maybe you anon
This thread sure as shit doesn't share that consensus

No but for real for real though, it's not about us and this line gives it away
It's for sure about the actual people in charge of resources that pump and dump women like cheap hookers in the industry
Same with the "Parasite" imagery that's with the song. The double-imagery of the fly (Lord of the Flies, Beezlebub, you all know that much) and cat on one end, and the TV-heads and the girls on the other end, also give that away. A situation where a parasite latches onto a girl and sucks her success dry, then jumps to the next one to do the same to her, and on the other end, the same events play out in the virtual world. With the Venus Flytraps coming out of the heads of the women to tie both metaphors together, and show that eventually, the people exploiting these women (much like the fly who exploits the hosts they suck blood from) will, through their own parasitic nature, cause the organisms they harvest to evolve from prey to predator, and turn the tables against them.

>>70643396
Distracts all male creatures

>>70643467
if you think that only happens here you are an absolute retard

>>70643162
Anon the one thing she isn't lacking is superchat money

>>70643065
It's Riko Sama

>>70643383
>I don't think it will ever succeed
Hold /our/ dick

almost

>>70643518
holo v holo fags and buy/sell at debut fags

>>70643396
The summoners must be attractive to call forth the majicks

>>70643414
>Admitting Enna lost to IRyS

>made a song specifically make fun of #
>Niji drama happen
>the MV has black and white brackground
>outside /here/ and casual fans assume the MV was reference to Selen and Anykara drama
# can't stop winning

>>70643518
Most artists leave the details vague as they want the audience to fill in the blanks. Discussion drives interest.

>>70643518
Mori's mom.

>>70643441
>but also targets Gura
When? Gura has BTFO her with surprise streams plenty of times

>>70643162
retard

>>70642964
It's cute how much she's trying to fit into Hololive

>>70643441
>Enna
>Mumei
Because they are both birds?

>>70643018
>supervillain
we need a choreo for our presentation

>>70643151
This anime already kill itself. The author insert Incest and everyone hate it

>>70643360
Mori doesn't like numberfags, more specifically numberfags who like chuubas because of noombas and will drop them because of bad noombas.

>>70643518

>>70643538
This is Mori we're talking about

>>70643333
Id have to imagine that its due to the cons themselves not inviting them or contracts between Cover and the cons not working out. Like you said, it was a massive hit so i dont see why Cover wouldnt want to return. Could also be a question of availability, not only for the girls but also staff since staff has to be physically there right? Theres a plethora of reasons for it. Unless they outright state it, we have no way of knowing. Sucks for you bud. Hope you get to see them in person someday

>>70643528
>people in charge of resources that pump and dump women like cheap hookers
ah so it's about Nijisanji

>>70643319
At least Mori always had a decent foundation to build on. She always gave deadbeats fan service. Bae is a prude.

>>70643528
BASED if true then

>>70643517

I literally went out to get lunch and you guys are through an entire thread in 30 minutes, what the fuck did I miss?

>>70643333
I'm sorry, anon, but the numbers simply show that New England-based convention events are the most bang for their buck, which is why the main collab in the United States has been Anime NYC for three years running, and Boston-based cons have held them for a similar amount of time.
I'm totally not just inventing a reason to justify it as someone who lives in New England, though

GOD DAMMIT /#/ YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO GET MAD
NOT EMBRACE/HAVE FUN AT THE IDEA OF BEING A SUPERVILLIAN CAVAL

>>70643545
That's not what he meant, retard. Either way, he's wrong about that.

>>70643615
>the 6 downvotes
Kek

>>70643518
Gura

>>70643528
Yeah but you could argue stuff like memberships and buying merch count as investment. Ultimately it's about dropping girls who aren't satisfactory.
Some of the lines to me read like it's about people reacting to a debut, but industry people have already invested in girls before that even happens

>>70643329
Doesn't feel like it fits in either case. Weird messaging.

>>70643162
Retarded.

>>70643050
>Holos aren't even part of the traditional idol industry
Then why the fuck are people still try to apply normal idol agency logic to them?

>>70643664

>>70643610
>numberfags who like chuubas because of noombas and will drop them because of bad noombas
for as long as this thread has existed i've never seen that happen. IRyS is in the middle of the pack number wise but she's loved here

>>70643683
Did we? Just IRyS #shorts karaoke sub #s and discussion on Mori's new song.

>>70643528
It’s about niji favouritism (sans clique)

>>70643699
#s always win

>>70643528
>sucks her success dry, then jumps to the next one
Wait...

>>70643528
Eeeeeeeeh I feel like it's somewhat about shit like the noombasposting ITT. It talks about pushing a girl because of noombas, expressing superiority because of noombas and dropping them if the noombas don't work out. I just feel like it's kind of a caricature of numberfags since anons here mostly share the opinion that noombas and your oshi are two separate, unrelated matters. Then again I haven't really seen what noombafags outside of here look like so maybe it isn't a charicature.

>>70643773
>people

>>70643699
you greatly misunderstand Mori if you think she doesn't get being the villain can be fun, just not in the long run

watch brailet retards say that Mori is complaining about Hololive when Cover does the exact opposite of what it's portraying by constantly investing in absolute shitters like holostars

>>70643699
I am what history demands of me.

>>70643699
too chuuni and too old to not have fun shitposting instead of getting mad

Isn't Mori's new song just a budget Idoru?

https://youtu.be/ZRtdQ81jPUQ

>>70643699
Ive always liked the idea of being the baddie that unites the rest of the world. Sounds like fun!

>>70643838
Remember: Mori is more of a global poster than anything, so if she's seeing numberfags, it's the shitposters that run to them to go wild.

Karri-chan moshikashite atashi no koto Suki?

>>70643333
Their anime NYC push is a partnership with crunchyroll. It's possible they might not be showing up to cons unless they have incetive with some other party (crunchyroll or VRchat)

One thing I think is notable is that Hololive didn't even officially partner with Anime Expo last year even though it occured the same exact weekend as connect the world and the concert was obviously scheduled with that in mind.

>>70643592
There were two pretty kino ones.

>>70643699
the mistake every tourist to this thread makes is assuming we're super serious about everything

>>70643162
It does seem like she's attacking the idea of choosing an oshi or switching oshi, and saying it's the fans' fault if they're upset.

>>70643610
I have never seen anyone say they dropped a girl due to low numbers. That is the dumbest shit I've heard.

>>70643773
such as?

>>70642959
>>70643528
From start of your life to end there's always competition. Education, they grade you by your average then seperate you to not influence other, Business? the same. Even in wildlife they literally eat each other. That's just life

>>70643740
Yeah, maybe it's deliberate to avoid another Off with their heads situation but being too general makes the song lacks some punch

You lost Homo sisters

Chat is this true ???

>>70643610
Yeah, so not /#/
This thread only drop chuuba when males are included

>>70643615
KEK

>>70643528
that line could referencing BUY BUY BUY SELL SELL SELL posting

>>70643925
>>70643592
and this

>>70643945
Me
I drop pekora when she become sub 30k
But she become my oshi again with her recent 3d live

>>70643605
>it even has the bots

>>70643699
Fuck off, Mori!

>>70643773
It's an idol company but it's certainly not functioning like the seedy dog eat dog version of it in the "real" world.

>>70643959
>racist card

>>70643528
>YOU'RE WORTHLESS
>YOU BRING ZERO VALUE TO THE BRAND
>DO YOU WANT A TWO WEEK VACATION??
>PROJECTS? SORRY, TOO BUSY SHITPOSTING ON NYFCO TO GIVE A DAMN.
SOMEBODY SAVE ME!!!!!!!!

>>70643906
Timeline would match up.

>twitter screenshot general

>Mori loved
>Kiara hated again
Home…

Last thread talking about Mori's new song reminded me of this

>>70643151
Actually hilarious how some people shitpost this and then 90% of Holos are covering IDOL and singing it in their 3D lives

>>70643945
My oshis are whoever wins gold for the day.

>>70643791
I'm >>70643838 so yeah I agree, also woops on that last caricature, I keep forgetting there's no h there. Anyways, it is what most people think of when they think of numberfags though, and I don't think there really is a need to make the distinction from their side, they're better off just not looking at numberfags in general. I don't think reading this thread and having a nuanced take on numberfags is healthy for their mental health. Also, I don't know what numberfags outside of here look like, I'm willing to bet the SEA FB pages are fucking vile.

>>70643528
There are only two things that I'm having trouble squaring as a part of the song as a cohesive whole.
>one: The lyric Chanting of love, "aeiou" up to "n"
I have no idea what the fuck that means
>two: The chanting of "AWOL" just before the climax
I'm not sure what that could really have to do with the rest of the song

>>70643939
I wouldn't know I refuse to engage with her content for at least 90 days after a male collab unless my oshi is involved

>>70644074
>hate CGDCT prime
KYS

>>70644077
they sang it also for new year no?

>>70643959
Besides Vox, does NijiEN have any white talents left?

>>70643151
the shitty movie arc being 90% fanfiction about Ai already killing it

>>70643610
Kill yourself.

>>70644074
We love the CGDCT giga stacy here

>>70644112
It's N FOR NIJISNAJI hoLY SHIT

>>70644076
>are women the jannies of sex?
Always gets me

>>70644147
>Kiara
>cute
>>>girl

We only love girls here
All male vtubers are gay and cringe
There is no place for Yaoi Faggots in Hololive.

What the fuck happened here? What caused that insane divot?

>>70643528
straight from the horses mouth

>>70644074
i don't hate Kiara i just think she's a fucking idiot

>>70644074
Who do >we hate Kiara again? I just don't about her at all unless she collabs with my oshi

Mori is a true artist. She wrote lyrics from where every schizo can interpret anything they want.

>Organs have no human rights

>>70644147
>gives attention to fat ojisans like koe

>>70643102
I feel like the song mocks the activity around quanitfying the value of entertainers. Tierlistfagging like singing, gaming, collab, ccv etc, both from fans and corpos definitely hurts their work motivation, which cause them to work too hard on themselves disregarding health and personal time. And when they don't need them anymore, they are easily discarded or stealth suspended.

But the same fans bitch out when their oshi gets suspended, or corpos keep asking themselves why their talents take extended breaks. So it is more or less her rebuttal "you asked for it, now take responsibility of what you created".
The song also sounds like the scouting arms race that is seemingly more apparent since council. Both Cover and Nijisanji was definitely playing the chicken game to release their ENs during Coucil. I honestly don't get the feeling of purely shitting /#/, but more of general take on tierlists and comparing vtubers discussion on internet.

>>70644200
KEEP COOKING NIGGA

>>70643945
>>70643966
Like I said, I never said it was this thread, I'm of the opinion that it's a caricature of noombafags. And >we've also got to remember this is only a casual numberfag thread and is really more a newfangled /vyt/ with more EOPs. Fuck knows what exists outside of these threads, I don't care to look either.
>>70644182
You too anon.

>offkai cancelation announced
>Anykara stocks incline
Umm holokeks, you are losing again

>>70644232
define outsiders. Its vague posting.

>>70644224
Sony is dumping their bags

My stinky is finally here

I feel like Mori's song isn't about /#/ at all and the anons are reaching to make it about them are validation seeking homos

>>70644232
This in particular and the emphasis on horse racing feels like it's not related to corpo suits. But iirc this is a translation of what she said on the radio so idk if it's entirely accurate

>>70644224
bot crash

>>70644224
Another buy from Sony

>>70644261
Yeah the worst thing that could happen is a song just not be talked about at all

>>70644321
biboo going to be able to play bloodborne soon lets gooooo

>>70643018
Deep down, you guys only have good intentions, right?
This is just a RP thread where we pretend to be managers and financial experts purely for the giggles.

...right?

>>70643699
I genuinely think Mori has a soft spot for /#/. Not love or anything, but she doesn't hate us. She wouldn't obviously hang out here if she does.

>>70644284
Be a real man
Find a real job
Don't be a Homo Loser
Vtubing is only for women

>>70644340
I want to sniff her so bad

>>70644309
Sure, after you.

>>70644284
YOU BET ON THE WRONG HORSE, BOB

>>70643528
It's about y'all. Y'all the baddies

>>70644294
fairly poignant interpretation, especially in context of Mori not mentioning the vtuber awards because she didn't feel good enough to stand next to Suisei

ayo that's a nipple

>>70644232
A lot of times I think Mori is one of those sinister people who try to take advantage of peers by perpetrating the naive notion that streamers are all best friends and aren't going to stab each other in the back.

>>70644311
Well, it seems that NijiEN should not join any conventions in the future then.

>>70644393

>>70644379
But "outsiders who taint them" is a perfect way to refer to management, as well, is the thing
It's multifaceted

>>70644211
BASED BASED BASED

>>70644393
>Gura
>Interacting with Advent
Lmao

>>70643599
Too bad she doesn't. She should quit.

>>70644393
uuuuh anon i can see their mosquito bites...

>>70644442
Preach it, sis. Yaaaas!

>>70644482
So true phasesis

>>70644393
God the things i would do to those flaties

>>70644482
kys dramavermin

https://youtu.be/dGe2t08uqRw?t=1740

>>70644294
>corpos keep asking themselves why their talents take extended breaks
The "AWOL" section makes a lot of sense now, thanks

>>70644393
Why is Mococo such a cock slut?

>>70644392
I have good intentions
But I believe that good business is the best way to express good intentions

>>70644112
>aeiou
"A.E.I.O.U." (sometimes A.E.I.O.V.) was a symbolic device coined by Emperor Frederick III (1415–1493) and historically used as a motto by the Habsburgs. One note in his notebook (discovered in 1666), though not in the same hand, explains it in German and Latin as "All the world is subject to Austria" (Alles Erdreich ist Österreich untertan or Austriae est imperare orbi universo)

OBLIGATORY WAWA MENTION

>>70644379
>But iirc this is a translation of what she said on the radio so idk if it's entirely accurate

https://twitter.com/saku_X3/status/1764669424043458890
>Btw the English comment is not translated!! Calli was talking in English and I wrote what I heard. I hope there are no big mistakes.

>>70644211
TRUE!

>>70644442
Yes we're necessary evil, we know.

why did Mori put skybidy toilet characters in her MV?

>>70644570
goldmine of soundposts

>>70643528
It was probably in production too early to be directly about the Niji stuff, but there's lots of companies like them, it's not that uncommon a thing

>>70643599
at least she's trying, unlike a certain genmate of hers

>>70644570
>More vod views than Fauna and Takotori
did she unironically have like 13k or something, the fuck

>>70644596
But she's not proficient at English, either, so it's a wash on whether or not she did a perfect transcription

>>70644379
I honestly think it is about both numberfags and investors. I think people forget about the IPO still being relatively new in Holo’s history - it has changed so many things in how cover operates, and things have become more numbers focused on their side

>>70644354
>about this thread in particular
of course not. Even mori isn't THAT mind broken

>about numberfags in general who compare the girls and horse race
That's what I think it's about. it's not JUST here that people make some retarded shit posts

>>70644589
So Mori is some kind of weird monarchist. Interesting...

>>70644682
plappable

>>70644294
Obviously Mori is taking the idol angle since she works at an idol company but honestly reducing people to just numbers to be discarded when things go bad is really universal, it even applies for regular corpo doing massive layoffs for example

>>70644660
Actually, thinking about it, the timeline of when this was made could match up with the Johnny's scandal breaking out, right?

>>70644112
>The chanting of "AWOL" just before the climax
WHERE IS SELEN -> Termination notice

>>70644340
>chibi tits
hot

>>70644473
Is it? Does management really count as an outsider?

>>70644678
nah fauna vod views are just crap. i remember people shitposting a minecraft collab she did because she had less vod views than mumei despite like double the ccv

>>70644211
As a Holochad and #chad, I love femboy

>>70644682
DISGUSTING

>>70644112
The Japanese alphabet starts with the vowels あいうえお and ends with ん, like if you sing your ABCs.
It basically just means “A to Z”.

>>70644340
I HATE NENDOS I HATE NENDOS I HATE NENDOS

>>70644805
based japanese people catching onto basketball american culture.

>>70644294
I think I like this interpretation, it works for me.

SEAsters... no
Curse you False, curse you

>>70644596
>Mori was against Cover going public all this time

>>70644805
Mumei's ass is perfect in this.

>>70644793
In the context of the idols themselves, yes.
The story is going for
>in a perfect world, idol girls all just have fun together and support each other
>outsider forces push them for financial benefit (hence the betting scenes)
>when they're used up, they get discarded and replaced
It fits

Total Yaoi Faggots Termination
We only love girls here
All male vtubers are gay and cringe

>>70644589
Mori what the fuck!?

>>70644682
We love Ass and thighs itt

>>70644379
Isn't the only reference to racing just when she says 'racing lovely animals until they crack'? Honestly all the betting and parasite stuff with all the imagery reminds me more of corpo suits and investors more than just numberfags

>>70644074
Sorry anon Dmitri told us we can love all EN again so we do

>>70644294
>or corpos keep asking themselves why their talents take extended breaks
gura and ame...

>>70644589
Was Mori inspired by me saying Marie Antoinette was falsely called a whore and murdered by the French rebels?

>>70644868
>hates record labels

>>70644834
would you rather a

>>70644805

>>70644392
If my oshi gets good numbers that means she's successful. Therefore, I like when my oshi gets good numbers. Doesn't go any deeper than that.

>>70644480
>don't watch stream
Lmao

>>70644690
I really believe the only possible reason why Devis is made and marketed this way is due to investors, it really the only possible thing that makes sense

>>70644877
Actually, as an aside regarding the betting, I saw there were betting websites for fucking everything these days, including wars etc. I wonder if there's people who are unironically betting money on chuubas (and not in the stock market sense)

so will mori's song that's (potentially) about numbers do well numberswise

>>70644294
> But the same fans bitch out when their oshi gets suspended, or corpos keep asking themselves why their talents take extended breaks. So it is more or less her rebuttal "you asked for it, now take responsibility of what you created".
REALLY good point here. It’s something that can apply to anyone you’d think the song is about - investors, numberfags etc.
Like “don’t complain about your oshi/employer being on mental health break when you pushed her to it in the first place by treating her like a h
Horse…
HORSE??!!!

>>70644795
What? That’s not true, Fauna’s VOD views are completely in line with her CCV.

>>70645040
Wasn't there some kind of betting market for next niji graduation or did I fall for a mockup?

>>70644463
I thought it's the other way around, she's severely disillusioned when this happened to her, that's why she retreated back to the walled garden where it's safe

>>70643559
>can't even beat IronMouse's spotify
Lol

>>70645048
all songs are flopping since Neal took over so it's hard to tell

>>70645040
There are bets for little league baseball games. Guaranteed there is chuuba betting.

>>70644678
it was a void stream, those are always dimes, even grays know

>>70644795
You are objectively wrong.

>>70645111
>Concedes Enna lost to IRyS

>>70645050 (me)
*employee

>>70644732
Officially I guess, but Johnny's rumors has been common knowledge for YEARS, it's too far of a reach for Mori anyway

>>70645048
with this kind of song. no.

>>70645111
Coward.

>>70643980
There's no way anyone's dumb enough to take that seriously. It's obviously done for laughs.

>>70644834
Nendos are great fuck you

>>70645040
I guess this is hypocritical of me as a gacha gamer, but it's insane how much people are addicted to betting. Last time I went to buy groceries there's a fucking massive line for people just doing lottery shit

>>70644463
If Mori has that in here I don't see it. She's (very) dumb, stubborn and spiteful at times but I've never seen anything approaching actual malice/treachery from her, and she doesn't seem the type that would be good at hiding it either. Everyone in EN seems like a pretty good person to some degree or another and we ought to be thankful for that.

I dont think this thread is important enough for mori to make a diss track about, its obviously about investors and people within cover who are just there to maximise money

my autist daughter is trying to socialize, please invite her to collabs goddamnit

>>70645242
Also, like, Mori does it, too?
She's explicitly done it

>>70645048
Define do well numberwise? More than 10 million? No. Might be able to hit 2-3 million.

>>70645100
Explain her interactions with Pippa then. Deadbeats and Mori are trash for even encouraging it.

>Skinny and thin arms? 100 points
>Naughty armpits? 100 points
>Moderately thick legs? 90 points
>Big butt!??? Defective. Zero points.

>>70645311
it's hard to tell since this is mori we're talking about

>>70645311
...Is it an Omega diss track?

>>70645360
2-3 million is good nowadays. Mumei is at 3.3m and I think that's fairly regarded as a really big success.

>>70645366
Total Sio Death

>>70645340
Shiori...

JWU and scanned some places and False supposedly was able to fuck over Niji? Is that true?

>>70645340
Would Mori beat her song allegation and invite the runt of Advent for some collabs? Numbers dont matter rite?

>>70644678
It's viewer churn, especially this soon. Fauna generally has lower vod views for her ccv because she likely has great viewer retention, her average watch time is probably very high

>>70645419
by complete accident

>>70644805
>>70645366
Gayest posts all day. Why are Nips like this

>>70645423
Mori mentioned that her viewer retention for that stream was higher than normal.

>>70645196
Johnny's scandal wasn't about numbers or work conditions, unless you consider the company founder diddling the underage boys he hired "work conditions"

>Best year of Enna's life btw
>Loses Hyte collab
>Gets mogged by a piece of paper
>Loses Offkai spot
AHAHAHAHA

>>70645311
SASUGA

>>70645340

>>70645311
obviously not specifically /#/, but you're in denial if you don't think it's a condemnation of all reductive/quantification/comparison behavior, here included

Honest question, but why would any Holo save for Kiara or Bae hate /#/ when the thread has basically become a Holo cheerleading general these days?

>>70642959
Seriously, nobody wants to have crawling baby races where some of the babies are aware that they’re in a race. What’s the fun in that?

>>70645366
>lyric
I wish this was true. homostars is a fucking waste of resources.

>>70645420
Mori is the one EN senpai who actually invites her for a 1v1 collab dumbass. It was understandably awkward for their first stream together but enjoyable, I wish they'd do some more

>>70645311
Anons in /here/ really love the smell of their own farts.
Reminder that >we are the invisible army that pulls the strings of the industry. As such, it is important to remain invisible. Containment breaching and validation seeking is troon behavior. It is your duty to fight righteously without recognition. To fight for anything else but ensuring the protection of CGDCT in Hololive is an affront.

>>70645419
More like
>posts drama bait tweet
>offkai collapses and folds to the rrats

neat

>>70645521
second-hand info

Would it be healthier for the talents if they were traded between corporations like a futebol player?

>>70645521
the people who say Mori hates /#/ seem to really want her to hate us for some reason, I don't see it. Maybe the /#/ of 6-12 months ago.

>>70645564
>another flop song

>>70645564
I got to listen to a minute of it before it got privated

>>70645100
she's disillusioned that holofags vehemently rejected her real friends. Now it's all about the dough

>>70645564
>private
miggers...

>>70645545
apparently a watchalong of some kind was planned

>>70645512
>quantification
Retard. It's simple math, flesh/homo collab = drop.

>>70645405
nah thats a failure. all of mumei's music is a failure because they have no legs. with the way her music does the first few days she should have a couple 10m+ by now

>>70645311
>within Cover
they are the most equalitary company you'll ever see, shut the fuck up
why the fuck do you think they try so hard to push talents who barely generate income? any other company would have fired them by now, not to mention they can literally take months of vacation without any consequence. all talents and staff love working for them.

>>70645588
No, sports is bullshit because of that

>>70645521
The girls are pretty sensitive and menhera. Even benign stuff like Mumei vs IRyS karaoke number posting would probably bother them if they saw it

>>70645564
Migochi....

>>70645588
would be kind of funny but I cant imagine anybody getting traded in/out of holo and no other corps matter

>usual timeloops completely fucking ejected
>/#/ is suddenly spending a lot of time on artistic discussion and analyzing thematic interpretations of music videos
>...and not actually doing that bad of a job on it?
I can't say I dislike this capacity for intelligent thought that NA anons have been able to show today

>>70645646
>3 million with the current algo is a failure
the numberrot has completely overtaken your mind

>>70645521
you do realize Holos aren't going to like a thread just because it's shitting on others instead

>>70644294
Now imagine being an e-sports player where you're just objectively worse than others with your stats on full display and you can't cope with blaming the viewers, so you end up practicing 10+ hours every single day and can't take a break because you'd probably get too rusty to ever play on a team again.
Vtubers can bring their wrists to their forehead in woe all they want, but it won't change how little is actually demanded of them.

>biggest numberfag in hololive
>tries to reach the top for years but gets outclassed by her genmate doing 3 streams a year
>gets mindbroken and starts shittalking numberfags
Don't play the game if you can't handle losing, Mori.

>>70645732
retard

>>70645588
Maybe for small corpos but theres 0 benifit for Hololive or Niji's big players if they do that.

>>70643014
what gaem is this

>>70645693
bae mogs her despite slower start
mumei's music has no legs because her music is ass

>>70644224
Sony is going to 'own' Nijisanji before 2024 end.

>>70645689
I'll have you know, despite usually shitposting I have a masters degree in a non-meme field. I choose to be retarded on purpose.

gn /#/ family

>>70645770
Try reading that post again, anon. Slowly. Consider the implications of the text being paired with the image.

>>70645340
I don't get it, what's wrong with what she said?

I like to think they added that black company background last minute to the MV to reference riku's shame stream. No I will not take my meds

Miko just accidentally made her new orisong's MV go live
Privated within a few minutes
>>70645547
>>70645592

>>70645796
CHUCHUCHUCHU~

>>70645719
you're right, that sounds more like a niji thing instead

i bet luxiem loved /#/ for a good bit

>>70645796
chuchuchu

>>70645040
I mean, there's a betting site on which Niji will graduate/terminated first, so ...

Good afternoon # what are you guys eating for lunch

>>70645796
Let me hear your voice soon, please...

>>70645822
nothing, i'm just surprised she's talking to other people besides her genmates

>wow, that was a pretty good song, I should really spend some time thinking about it!
>...
>bling, bang-bang, bling bang-bang born tho
My retard wife has poisoned my brain with this fucking thing

So, is splitting your audience worth trying to be in two algorithm splits at once?

>>70644383
How do you know it's Sony?

>>70645796
CHU TIME

>>70645896
Its 12am....

>>70645800
FUCK YOU GOODNIGHT

>>70645850
will this fuck with the algo? is it better to delete and reupload fresh for the premiere?

>>70645929
I don't follow vmirai, is this incline? I was under the impression they were hardstuck 2view

>>70645588
>your oshi will never be traded to Phase Connect for cash considerations
Why live

>>70645693
Holy cope. Mumei's music career is a huge flop anon. Her music taste is trash.

I LOVE my investor family desu

>>70645967
It fucked shiori's cover for a bit

>>70645967
Judging by Shiori's cover probably not

>>70645929
I don't see why not. We don't even know if the video and shorts algorithm are even linked in any way. Might as well experiment

>>70645982
she's the pomu-like with big tits, which is a big draw these days

>>70645922
She killed it on that song. I cant blame you.

>>70645726
I think there's a huge difference though, because esports are far more quantifiable in the sense that there's always an "objectively" best move to make in every situation, and you can watch replays of your games to learn how to improve (e.g. changing farming patterns, getting better at last hitting, buying better items). It isn't really like that in the entertainment industry. Sometimes people get popular by sheer dumb luck. Sometimes you grind for years and never see success. There are numbers associated with entertainment, sure, like seeing that you get more views for handcam streams so you do more handcam streams to incline. But there are also far more situations where there is no clear, "objectively" right answer, and unlike esports, you can't watch a replay and discern what exactly went wrong.

>>70646007
Anon, Shiori's cover was turbo fucked before the other Advent girls shilled it

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I MISS FUWAWA AND MOCOCO BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU

https://youtu.be/LRDP5QFpz3Q?t=3426
Ok which one of (You) told her that

>>70645850
She did it on purpose to create hype, you either set the time wrong or right on these things

>>70645521
I'm sorry but the Holo girls would probably be upset if they saw what some of their fans were saying about their genmates and friends, and with such gusto too. Remember Mori's reaction to Fulgur's numberfag tier posts in the NijiEN discord leak?
That said I doubt any of them care about this thread

>>70645963
She's changed.....i blame her green friend

>>70646036
When are big tits not a big draw?

>>70644834
Seethe more Funkokek

>>70646155
most of the time
big tits are boring

>>70645521
I'm sure Fauna and Mumei love whenever Saplings or Hoomans shit on Bae

Holy grim

>>70646155
Always.

>>70646227
too big

>>70646155
> big tits
Gross

>>70645850
Time to stealth suspend her and force her to make a public apology! .. oh wait wrong company

>>70645521
the runts would feel like shit
imagine bae or kiara realizing that irys gets 2x their karaoke numbers, mumei gets 3x their karaoke numbers or gura getting 5x their karaoke numbers

>>70646196
>whenever Saplings or Hoomans shit on Bae
Sure thing nijisis

https://x.com/kyatorincos/status/1764813420556120290?s=46&t=vAuMk6FVLkrJxgLS90A6gw
This will be what EN fan are remembered for post-Advent

>>70644340
Nice titties

>>70645521
This place is way too schizo even if nice things are said and there is genuine support.

>>70646196
They probably do, they're sensible girls.

>>70646071
That's what I'm saying, you can just cope that you weren't lucky or that it's the viewers' fault for abandoning you or whatever, and proceed to take another long vacation while feeling like it makes no difference. Because there is no hard evidence to tell you that it's your fault that you're shit.

AAAAAAAAAA NEW GOOM MATERIAL https://twitter.com/holocheerup/status/1764863410246672794