/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>70601671
subs don't mean shit if they don't turn up kek

>>70601671
to be fair those sites aren't fully accurate, Youtube itself lists enna as having 652k, When doki hits 653k subs i'd say it's safe to call it

>>70601729
That is true!, Which is why enna can't even get 2k CCV on her return stream from a long break

>>70601671
Damn 30k unsubbed from the whore?

>>70601671
>Enna has already surpassed Dokibird
GG Dookibrains.

>>70601671

>>70601729
Turn up what the stove????

Is that all?

>>70601784
40k actually, she was at 692k before the drama, might have even been on track to be 700k by now..Props to elira for killing that dream off

>>70601671
>Enna is still losing subs
lmao

>>70601838
>>70601796
>>70601795
Your oshi's birthday and concert were worth less than a piece of paper, I hope you always remember that :)

>>70601875
Humongous KWAB
I guess being a chinkbrained sociopath doesn't pay off now that the chinks got bored of your corp and are moving on in droves?

>>70601933
You got me. I missed the aloucreep suicide pact, I'm the lone survivor. I can still save her.

>>70601796
The bug mindset will always lose to the free mindset of the westernized Hong-Kong-Dong

>>70601671
I'm sure Enna doesn't care especially since Selen's Niji account had way more subs for the longest time already. But you do you sister she must be seething uncontrollably amiriite.

>>70601671
my oshi is connected to the biggest vtuber ever. worth way more than sub count lmfao

>>70601997
Wait, they're still not gaining subs? It's been weeks.

>>70603393
>biggest vtuber ever
please be a fat joke

>>70601729
Thats true...
>check enna ccv..
Thats true...

>>70603393
>Mori
She lost a civil war too. No wonder she and Enna get along.

>>70603393
I kneel enna sama

>>70603393
yeah that's true she does look big in her fleshtuber video. gotta ask calli to cut some carbs so that she does not end up like Millie.

>>70601729
This is more an insult to Enna who still technically has more subs, but her ccv is leagues behind Doki than anything else.

>>70603772
Against who?

>>70603393
this video was almost 2 years ago, where's the collab, sister

>>70603593
Niji is basically happy making people think they are the bullies. Which let's be real, they 90% are but if they can't get either proof or apologies out people are not gonna come in.

>>70603656

>>70603393
Unironically the "clique" leader of holoEN, Successfully grooming and leeching off the twins, Dumping chadcast cause they're better friends with mumei who is friends with doki, With kiara and nerissa being her enna and millie, Nerissa collabing with reimu after all the shit going down, There are clearly 2 factions in holoEN, With myth/advent supporting niji, and promise supporting doki

>>70601671
Enna will never be ablo to play paper scissors rock ever again. She will always lose to paper no matter what she chooses

>>70601729
Yes, exactly. So what does that tell us about Enna ?

Are dookiekeks the most pathetic fanbase in this place? I swear they spend the whole day spamming threads LOL. It must be fun to have that much free time no wonder they manage to bot and astroturf the shittybird numbers all the time!

>>70601729
Kicking Enna who jjsg recovered from death by paper cut, how refreshing

I unironically believe Enna is the most likely to actually try to end herself/stage it just to garner sympathy and attention once she gets cornered. So, please look forward to that!

>>70601671
Didn't Enna have 652k just yesterday? This is really grim.

>>70604231
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HOW DARE UUUUUUUU, SISTERS SAVE MEEEEEEEE

>>70603656
KEK

>>70601729
Why is it when post contains "kek", "lmao" or "lol" it is Chinese fat sister defending niji?

>>70604649
>Conflates dramanigs with dragoons
Don't kid yourself sis, The entire vtuber community hates your pagpag gutter oil kind, Your smelly rotten cunt oshis, and your black company that you can't stop sucking off for 2 cents an hour, Real dragoons are too busy gooning and jerking it to doki porn in their thread to waste time with the likes of you Nijinigs

>>70601729
I guess you are right. That would explain why Enna managed 1600 ccv in her comeback stream.

>>70604895
It's an easy copy-paste to hide their cope and ESL at the same time.

Looking forward to the 95% dead sub ratio when the drama dies down.

>>70604917
You seem really angry dookielover...

>>70604344
Aight time for your meds buddy.

>>70604968
just like Enna's channel now

>>70604835
save me brown girl
brown girl... save me...

>>70604968
Dookikeks putting all their chips on numbers it's going to look pretty funny in a couple months. But I mean of course they're numberfags, audience reflects the streamer LOL

>>70605036
Both are funny, yes.

>>70605069
Just two more weeks, right?

>>70604344
>dumping chadcast
Check her playthrough of Poppy Playtime Chapter 2 and Bae's 3D live

>>70605069
Why wait months for funny /#/ when i can just check them now and see nijiEN being mogged by a guy named CRIMZON RUZE

Well, it's only a matter of a day or two

>>70603393
>Runt
>Obese
>tatted up like a common prostitute
>voice of a 60-year-old transsexual
>wigger
>woke feminist
>unfunny
>ccv that barely broaches 5 finanas
>friends with Enna and Reimu


Figures

>>70605012
Am i wrong?, Promise hardly if ever collabs with advent, where as kiara and mori have been swooning and swarming them nonstop, Biboo is basically ID 3.5, The dogs are JP, Shiori is gonna get zaion'd eventually, and that's just how it goes

>>70605225
Elira runs HoloEN through Bae. BELIEVE

>>70605135
Don't let those pesky numbers rot your brain even more dookielover!

>>70605119
Less than two weeks. It is now early morning on 3/5 JST, and Riku has a meeting with the stonks assholes on 3/14.
The most recent yab is Offkai putting out a press release denying that they're being pressured by Nijisanji in particular to reject certain applicants, and there's still more than 216 hours left for another yab to happen.

>>70602440
We stan our honorary roundeyes here in the civilized world.

>>70604344
Dropping chadcast by doing a number together for Bae's live??

>>70605348
will riku stand down?

>>70605343
You really out here calling other people shit eaters when you're a gutter oil swilling pagpag?, lol, lmao even

Kinda weird how the only thing Dragoons seem to mention about Doki are her numbers. I never hear anything about her personality, what she likes or what she does. Only numbers.

>>70601729
Enna's ccv...

>>70601729

>>70605507
>>70573359

why does enna has scat fetish

>>70605570
>13 hours ago
>60 replies
Is she like boring or something? Threads talking about her numbers flash by tho.

>>70605507
And Aloucucks love sharing Enna's. Like how they cuck you in almost every stream, she even tells you to your face the money you guys donate pays your own cucking, or her deranged stories about pee, shit or her lunatic mother. What about Enna's personality? Oh yeah, a very spiteful creature.

>>70605727
That's not Enna, that's just the aloucreeps. If she does than that's cool, I love seeing a woman pass a huge log.

>>70601671
wow shocking. streamer with a much bigger fanbase still has a bigger fanbase? even with her hordes of pitybait tourists and dramaniggers buffing her numbers it's pretty sad she hasn't even reached Selen numbers yet. where are all those hundreds of thousands of missing Dragoons?!

>>70604344
>Kiara arguably the biggest victim of bullying and isolation is actually a mean girl
Dude I get people not liking her voice or bluntness but you need your meds

>>70605756
>60 replies
Are you blind? Also:
>the only thing Dragoons seem to mention about Doki are her numbers
>BUT WHAT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF POSTS IN THIS THREAD?

>>70601933
mentally ill faggots deciding to burn their money to support their mentally ill faggots oshi's charity for more mentally ill faggots isn't something to be proud of, it's something to be mocked for.

>>70604160
The audience, she tried to change things and it didnt work, now she regrets it and doesn't do shit anymore.

>>70601729
How come they dont turn up for enna?

>>70601729
You're right, most of Enna's subs are dead

>>70601729
The same could be applied to everyone kek

>>70605952
But enough about enna

>>70605225
Bae has had quite a few collabs. Mumei spent a lot of her time on hiatus. Fauna and Kronii don't really collab with ANYONE and Irys if we count her is basically just JP.

Frankly you'd have a good case if you just said
>Promise hardly ever collabs
and not even bother with specifying advent. The only one pushing collabs in promise is Bae and she's also the one with the most rabid antis for it.

>>70603593
There's also the fact they hardly stream, and when they do it's like 4 week sub mode. So anyone new checking them out can't participate in chat.

>>70605973
The funniest thing is once it was clear the sexpest homos apart of Mori's clique were not allowed to collab with all the girls, they both left hololive, leaving Mori to do collabs with just Kronii, who filtered the sexpests names from her chat after she realized Mori's advice was poison to her numbers.

>>70605952
I'm sure you'll use that money wisely anon

>>70601729
Self own.

>>70605952
Sister...
>https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette/status/1692042767034200323
"We're really happy to announce that our 1yr+ project is finished !! The MV will have a YT fundraiser for https://mhanational.org to help support those in need in regards to MH." -Enna

>>70605764
Why are you so obsessed with cucking lol? Oh no are you one of those parasocial losers that thinks he's on a relationship with a vtuber? LMAO this is too funny!

>>70605952
What is there to mock about it?

>>70601729
That just means Enna is doing EVEN worse, YIKES

>>70606347
>MH
collecting money to treat BPD

>>70604344
You have no understanding of holoEN’s group dynamics.

Funny how the biggest drama the EN vtuber community can muster can't make doki hit 1 million. The desuwa girl did it in a week. Japs are just better.

>>70606226
To be fair she did successfully bully ame into one monopoly collab, I think even she was smart enough to realize if she so much as TRIED to rope gura in with tempus she'd single handedly have killed all of EN, Those two grifters probably didn't quit cause of no collabs, if anything vesper hated collabs more than anyone, see him ditching his genmate's fucking 6 month celebration while drinking himself to death in japan

>>70606899
Didn't she show her endoscopy or something?

>>70606899
Odd sense of humor there buddy, but you do you.

>>70606899
Getting above 500k as an EN vtuber is legitimately difficult, only the nijifujo baiters and first 2 gens managed it for NijiEN, and for HoloEN shiori is hardstuck below it, Doki getting 2/3rds of her corpo subcount is practically a miracle considering what usually happens to graduated corpos where they fall back into obscurity

>>70601729
>subs don't mean shit if they don't turn up kek
Aloucucks...

>>70606899
Interesting anon, can you link me the stats on her ccv? picrel

>>70604969
>>70605069
>>70605343
>>70605507
>>70605952
>>70606899
Might be wrong, but seems like Chinksters typed these. Smells like a third world country here.

>>70607055
Ame was already doing homo collabs and put together the inter gender worms tournament. So that's not a feat.
And there is zero chance Gura would do what Mori says after the Air BnB incident.

>>70607620
lol I have never watched a niji stream. I'm just tired of seeing 15 threads about this boring drama.

>>70605952
I agree, Vox and his army of hambeasts are pathetic.

>>70607620
Cope and seethe seafag. The drama honeymoon is almost ending and people already have bird fatigue

>>70604231
>A WHITE PAPER
>WHITE
UKI RUN AWAY!

>>70608095
Please anon, talk nicely about NijiEN's songbird Enna

Enna is more way more talented than Dookie. Subs don't mean shit. Dookie prides herself on her gaming skills but can't do anything without being carried

>>70601729
That explains a lot about Enna's hilariously low CCV.

>>70601671
>You guys will still like me even if I kill a person, right? Right??
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

>>70608292
Okay Enna, but what about your failing SCs, memberships, and CCV? Does this mean you are wasting your talents at Nijisanji by being a who? Grim.

>>70608438
Yes because if she killed anyone they deserved it.

>>70608640
How about she kills you

>>70608640
Wow an actual bootlicker in the wild. Try not to erect any dictators and stick to your irrelevant vtubers please. Somebody could get hurt by your inability to act like a human being.

Oh this is really embarrassing. Way to go doki

>>70605213
leaving aside all the insults...
>Finana is now a unit of measurement

>>70608954
is it 300 or 400 ccv, i keep seeing different takes

>>70608979
It's 300 from what I remember seeing in the original thread

>>70609167
Cheers bro

>>70601795
But Enna dropped thousands of subs, and Doki crawled up on her, from being around 400k. How is this a flex Sister? Jesas the stupidity of Nijisanji viewers.

>>70603393
Mori has always been a horrible judge of character, this is not surprising in the least

>>70609720
>Mori worships the twins
She isn't always in the wrong

>>70609786
she just wants their numbers
don't forget the mario party curse...

>>70601671
>be Enna
>the girl you helped bully out of Niji EN instantly becomes more successful than you
>she's about to overtake your subs
>you lose to a piece of paper
glad I'm not Enna lol

>>70603393
>biggest vtuber ever.
LMAO I see what you did there

>>70601729
As always sister send their best but that just the best amon them, still barely even a retard in front of general population...

>>70605213
>Finana measurement unit is catching on
This is way too fucking funny

>>70604344
Here, have a reward for writing such a convoluted fanfiction.

>>70609786
She doesn’t care about them, she cares about their numbers, I wouldn’t be shocked if she didn’t even like the twins considering they stand for pretty much everything calli stands against

>>70601671
Enna needs to do better or she will fade into irrelevance too. Many such cases with Niji talents. I keep hearing she is the better streamer, but the results speak differently. Meanwhile I keep hearing that Dokiebird is a talent-less grifter, but she is creating results. Do I take the word of mentally ill fans over what the metrics are showing? No I do not think I will.

>>70603393
She only wants to meet them so she can YEET them

>>70608640
Then I hope you enjoy getting killed by your own oshit, seething Ennaschizo.

>>70604170
Enna insulates herself inside Nijisanji. I don't think I've seen her outside of that bubble. Reimu has though tbf.

>>70611062
>Enna needs to do better or she will fade into irrelevance too
Hasn't she already?

>>70611488
You've got me there anon

>>70604344
Hololive specifically gets people who are agreeable and don't cause drama. Before you start shouting Kiara at me, she brought up her concerns and Hololive management fixed the cause of her concerns. The biggest spat I've seen was with Iofi scolding Nene for tracing art for a thumbnail. Every bit of drama that comes from the company seems to come from fan interaction and not from the talents and the stuff that comes from management seems to get cleaned up eventually.

>>70601729
Not entirely true, it's dumb and backwards but most sponsors weigh sub count more than the ccv. Company's are too dumb to look any further beyond sub count when looking for streamers to promote something. CCV stats aren't as widely available/utilized either without paying money and company's won't be bothering with that more often than not.

>>70611642
Good point, Hololive has gotten really good at screening new talents after the Aloe fiasco, and to some extend their massive fuckup with Mel's manager (he harassed her, they took his side for a long time). They learned from their mistakes, because my god I remember us shitting hard on them in /jp/ for that.

>>70601671
Dramafags are eating like kings these days, fucking nijisanji and their garbage should have its own board.

Reminder that Enna was absolutely humiliated after that Chinese collab with Selen
She built her entire identity around being Chinese and can't even speak the language while Selen, who does 't mention this nearly as often as Enna, can speak it very well
Also reminder that Enna being a cunt to Doppio during Wrestlesanji birthed an entire new wave of Enna antis in /NijiEN/ for the sheer fact that she is a miserable whore with nothing worthwhile about her shitting on a good, kind boy

>>70611014
This
Calli probably laughs at them and makes jokes about them in private when she talks with her real friends.
"Haha BAU BAU this, BAU BAU that, just fucking kill me already!"

>>70612290
I have never felt more validated than in these past couple of weeks.

ENNA DON'T LOOK

>>70609940
That paper also has more personality than her.

>>70612571

>>70612699
Just 5 remaining organs left.

>>70604895
IIRC Chinese scamming rings have internal guidebooks and shit when doing their thing, especially when dealing with non-Chinese.
Not hard to imagine nijisisters having something similar.

>>70612571
>>70612699
The OP was prophetic after all

>>70612571
>>70612699
KWAB

>>70612498
Thanks for reminding me anon, I did not watch the stream, but I saw the drama and anger on the socials.

>>70601729
>subs don't mean shit if they don't turn up kek
Why are the sister's like this? getting BTFO every.single.time. never learning.

>>70606664
mental illness is fake, it's an excuse to be a piece of shit. there are of course some legit cases, but 99% of it these days is lazy cunts wanting an excuse for their shitty behavior

>>70613383
Way to self report.

>>70608979
>>70609167
1 Standard Finana is 300 for now until we make an official census of the Finana Standard Metric or FSM for short.

>>70613383
>mental illness is fake
Interesting, can we see your doctorate that makes you an authority on this? Or should we expect that you are just another lying sister who thinks psychopathy is a PR move?

>>70612699
It's over sisters...

>>70613708
FSM, I like that, or maybe FSU? Finana Standard Unit (for measuring ccv ofc, nothing else).

>>70612699
Doki has more subs than every Niji en girl now right?

>>70613922
Technically no, since this still counts for all # sites.

>>70613913
>(for measuring ccv ofc, nothing else).
You mean for now, a Finana unit sounds funny as hell we can expand it even more but let's leave it for later.

>>70609611
>from being around 400k
a month ago she had like 30k subs

>>70613975
>Selen hasn't said a thing since the shitshow started
You're next Selen, your days are counted.

>>70614051
In that case, that is a serious rally from the community. Good on her for making it out of that mess alive. Hopefully she can build something for herself.

>>70613975
In the end her final battle is defeating her past.

>>70614221
The biggest struggle for so so many people.

>>70601729
Some people really need to understand this.

>>70601729
>>70614538
>destroyed by subs numbers
>destroyed by charity donations
>destroyed by CCV numbers
>destroyed by sc numbers
>destroyed by a fucking piece of paper
Sister's getting BTFO so hard they now have permanent brain damage, they don't even make sense anymore.

>>70608508
Better to be talented, loyal to friends and successful than be an untalented traitor who needs to start drama to gain success

>>70605225
BaeBi Jojo Watchalong...

>>70616030
>loyal to her friends
LOL
LMAO EVEN
ELIRA THREW ENNA UNDER THE BUS
KWAB

>>70615310
Female Vtuber fans already don't make sense.
You're women, you're wanted just because you push out kids. Why do you need to come into the closest thing to a gamer dating site?

>enna had way more subs then Elira
Huh, I really had no clue about niji EN. I thought Elira was somewhat of a big shot

>>70616781
Tbh it's also a mystery for because while Elira is just boring, Enna is outright vile and repulsive.

>>70616906 (me)
Meant to say *for me

>>70616906
>Bro just forgot some Enna fans are so menhera to still donate while she's out with her boytoy.

>>70616030
>Talented
Subs and sales would like to differ
>Loyal to Friend
If she shut up Enna and Mille wouldn't be in this mess
>Successful
Se number one

I don't even want to backtalk her, but no. If you want to pull /#/, Selen was the most successful female in Niji before termination. Looks like things hardly change.

>>70616906
Enna doesn't even have a pleasant speaking voice either. So the mystery deepens. Imagine her voice on radio trying to advertise her sponsor products.

>>70616906
I prefer "comfy" or "soothing" to boring. She makes some great quips and is entertaining in collabs. She likes to gush about stuff every once in a while and it's super cute. Enna meanwhile is a firecracker who you can't really predict how she'll react. She's incredibly creative with her quips and retorts, and she usually just says some outlandish shit to catch people off guard. Both of them really appealed to me, to be honest.
Which just makes all of this shit happening that much worse to the point that it's hard to even look back to those old streams without thinking about subtext.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdiPPv879UI

>>70612799
"Don't spend your day trying to dig for the truth" What a fucking stupid thing to say, like how do you say that and act surprised when people do just that.

>>70617227
I have to agree on the outlandish shit. She keeps gaslighting herself that she did nothing wrong for hours umprompted, fun.

>>70617242
Honestly, if you look at it charitably it DOES make sense. Think of all the sisters spending days coming up with rrats, or even people like me getting depressed just thinking about this, constantly hovering and refreshing pages just for a crumb of information. It's exhausting and can lead to doomscrolling and spiralling.

>>70614221

bree R3 and L3 to accept the truth

>>70616781
Elira is boring, her streams are really low effort and that reflects in her channel size and ccv (5 Finanas in a good day).
Yet, she is the one who has gotten the most promotions and her boobs keep getting bigger with each new outfit.
It is almost as if she was in some sort of privileged position. Nah, it is not like a lot of people in EN are irl friends of her or former subordinates of her past persona.

>>70617085
>Subs and sales would like to differ
Fame doesn't equal talent. Enna and Millie were already in that mess and a success isn't invalidated because someone is more successful.

Subs also don't equal success or talent but I'm not gonna numberfag about view count. Point is Enna is one of the most musically talented chuubas in the scene and didn't betray anyone. Doki is a traitor who considers her gaming skills to be her talent but she loses every actual competition she's in. Her numbers don't change that

It shames that I used to be an aloupeep

>>70617541
Oh yeah how many singing competitions did Enna win?

>>70617541
>Fame doesn't equal talent. Enna and Millie were already in that mess and a success isn't invalidated because someone is more successful.
...Doesn't this invalidate your entire argument since Selen's past as a Nijisanji fan and bootlicker shouldn't be invalidated because they fucked themselves trying to kill her both physically and metaphorically?

>>70617541
Stop stroking your own dick Enna, it's embarrassing.

>>70617628
What matters is that you saw the light and are not enabling that spiteful diddler anymore

>>70617694
I'm not invalidating Selen's success. I'm invalidating Doki because it's built off betrayal. Unless someone pointed a gun at her, they didn't try to physically kill her

>>70601729
Yeah, that's why Enna can barely hold 3 Finanas

>>70617541
Who did Doki betray again? Enna?
Enna, the monster who was celebrating Doki's suicide attempt in a stream the same day it happened.

>>70617860
You're fighting ghosts again sister, no one is saying this.

>>70617860
She didn't betray anyone, nor has she pushed anybody after leaving the company. She's never said anything towards Nijisanji directly outside of counter claims, and she's gotten so many projects both started and complete since leaving there that don't you think there's even a chance that she seriously just wants to move on without hurting anyone more?

>>70617860
here we go again

>>70617947
>>70617694
>trying to kill her both physically

>>70613975
poeting how the only enemy left in niji is her old account, they trully never stand a chance lmao amazing how a months afetr rebirthing she put them agan in their place as indie, im not a fan of the games she plays but gotta respect this smug tomato

>>70617541
>musically talented
there are homos more musically talented than that hag

>>70601671
sounds like you need to listen to Mori's upcoming song

>>70617993
Ever heard of hyperbole?

>>70617993
Are you going to respond to the actual points addressed or just go "lol semantics" when a woman nearly died?

>>70614221
Wow... that's fucking deep man...

>>70601729
Why are you bullying Enna…

>>70617964
She accused the members of harassment in secret without ever telling them about it, got fired then decided to smear the reputation of everyone after she and her plans were exposed in the termination notice. The only thing she ever counter claimed was that she purposely recorded Vox. Everything else is what she accused them of. A clear betrayal of her friends, it's no wonder she was upset that they were able to read her claims. Now she'll have to have to live with the fact that she destroyed her friendships with everyone in Niji because she couldn't own up to her mistakes

>>70618505
>he accused the members of harassment in secret without ever telling them about it
Why would she need to tell them? They already knew they were harassing her.

>>70612571
>>70612699
Just like that, Enna takes yet another L.

>>70612571
>>70612699
DING DONG THE WICKED BITCH IS DEAD

>>70601671
Self-righteousness vs Grit or something I don't care

>>70612699
BTFO
T
F
O

also, checked

>>70613975
I guess she'll have to surpass herself.

>>70618505
That's an awful lot of assumptions. If they were harassing her, why would she need to inform them? They already knew since they were the ones doing it, and clearly they weren't stopping, so the only recourse is to ask Management to either make it stop (which they acknowledged that they were told and did nothing), or to use that as a way to get out of her contract and leave. After leaving, she said absolutely nothing about the other talents (her "friends") and explicitly said not to harass anyone many times. Every single bit of information about any harassment taking place has come because of Nijisanji making it public and then doubling down by naming her abusers directly. She hasn't denied them, yes, but she shouldn't have to since she never wanted that information to be public in the first place. Why would she "accuse" people in secret, anyways? What's the point of an accusation if nobody knows you're accusing them?

>Enna is terrified of birds
>Dokibird pushes her shit in
fantastic writing

Enna's "talent" is all Patterns' anyway. He's always produced bangers like "end of a Life" and "Scuffed-Up Age"

>>70616030
>Talented
Dokibird/Selen
>Loyal to friends
Dokibird/Selen. The Nijisanji clique members were never her friends.
Successful
Aagin, Dokibird/Selen

The same day Selen tried to KHS, Enna had a random short stream, after 7 days of no content. The stream seemingly was some sort of bizarre joke about a new boyfriend (cucking aloupees as she does) and bigger boobs. It was seemingly some random stupid garbage, but by the beginning of it she said:

>https://youtu.be/MP9-nsgdIkQ?t=104
"Ok guys, well I heard there are some like new, I don't know... New, some new updates on certain things going on in the company. So I just wanna to like, you know DROP BY and see what the, what the hassle is all about and you know what, it's been really exciting! Like, I finally got, to like, I finally got to have that surgery that everybody else got a year ago. And I am, so I just finished my surgery this morning and you know it was really painful but, you guys wanna see? you guys wanna SEE MY NEW SURGERY?" (until this moment she kept a black stream, then she proceeds with a stupid boob aumentation model joke)

>https://youtu.be/MP9-nsgdIkQ?t=269
"Best gift ever? I know. Like Santa really did what he needed to do. Like SANTA SLAY"

That is another example (probably the most grotesque) of Enna celebrating Selen's suffering in the open, confident that nobody outside niji could contextualize her seemingly random words. Just like she did with her infamous tweet:
>https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette/status/1746648557614952737

Or the Apex predator clip, it was always Enna attacking Selen in her weakest moments, while passing it as content. Truly the mind of a monster, or you could say a bully...

>>70617242
The truth didn't set us free, it did however destroy Nijisanji's stocks.

>>70619230
>End of a Life is about a life's end (Selen "dies")
>Scuffed up Age (The Truths about Nijisanji make it Scuffed up)
>glass slipper is about jealousy and wanting to be that other person
MORI PREDICTED EVERYTHING... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>70619406
A few times can be considered unfortunate coincidences, but with how many instances of Emma’s suspicious comments have come up over the years, it turns into an actual pattern.

Not like this kind of idiotic behavior where people try to “surreptitiously” brag about their abuse is such a unique case, but I’ll never understand why these types are so tempted to air out their dirty laundry.

>>70618921
They were clearly shocked that they were being accused of harassment and deny it happened. Why wouldn't they be surprised? After all Ike and Vox were some of Selen's best friends in the company and she was clearly upset they were able to find out. She never told management about any harassment claim until after the music video debacle as a form of blackmail since she was facing termination. She was greedy and wanted to have her graduation events without having to clean up the mess she made so she betrayed her friends for it in secret hoping they'd never find out and Nijisanji would fold. They were supposed to fold but they didn't so Selen made her accusations public exactly like she said she would. She didn't have to accuse the talents anymore because why would she? Her plans were spilled in the notice, everyone could fill in the gaps of who she was accusing. This is no assumptions, everything here is basically said as much by Doki or the people inside Niji. She betrayed them and is profiting off the misfortune she caused them because her pride couldn't take admitting fault to breaking rules

>>70619406
She's mentally ill, and her fans are fucking retarded for supporting this bitch.

>>70605213
>5 finanas

>>70619803
Get new talking points Mai

>>70619729
>>70619803

>>70605213
how much is a finana? 300 viewers?

>>70619729
>Ike and Vox were Selen's best friends

>>70619984
Yes, 1 finana is 300 ccv

>>70619984
Yes

>>70619803
Yeah Enna really is mentally ill and her fans (whatever's left of them) are retards that enable her.

The funniest part of all this mess is that most of the stuff Doki has been doing after getting kicked out would had made her look petty on a normal scenario (keeping the oshi mark, fanname, intro, etc.) should everyone on niji would've had just shut the fuck up.
Instead, now she has carte blanche because Elira and friends just HAD to make that black screen stream to make the whole company look even pettier.
Loving this shitshow.
Tl;dr Her boosted success is their own fucking fault

>>70601729
Goombah...

>>70620012
>>70620014
thx

Sistels... prease stop fighting...
The wal is ovel... we lost.

>>70619729
What are you talking about? None of this happened. According to Nijisanji's own termination notice, Selen attempted to negotiate to get out of her contract, citing how it was impossible to continue working due to nijisanji's management and harassment. She wanted to part either quietly or with as little fuss as possible, and they ghosted her. She then sent the document that she showed her lawyer that actually got him to take the case in the first place to them directly, and they immediately fired her and cited it as a reason. I don't know where you got the idea that coworkers were ever actually "friends" either. You can collab with people who aren't your friends, and you can have good chemistry with people you rarely interact with. Just look at the Aster and Scarle collab where Scarle was clearly forced to be there. I don't understand why you think she was greedy for wanting to have a graduation for the sake of her fans, and there's no real evidence to state she was even trying to get one.

And to make things worse, she never actually made any claims public and actively told people repeatedly not to harass anyone. Nijisanji instead kept trying to slander her with ridiculous claims and expected it to work like it did with Zaion, but since she actually kept receipts and has many, many people to vouch for her, nobody believed them. On top of that, the evidence Nijisanji has revealed did nothing but show that their management can't be trusted with simple tasks and that it's an absolute miracle that ANYTHING can get done in that company.

Her mere existence isn't a crime just because the company keeps blasting it's feet off every time they try to smear her.

>>70620024
Exactly. I feel this is the reverse of the Montreal Screwjob.

Precisely because Vince wen ham after it, embraced the Villain the crowd portrayed him as. While Niji still insists they're "the good guys"

>>70619723
To the balloon head devil's credit, at least she was sneaky about it. Unlinke Reimu, her "attempt" is in the same evil spirit but beyond idiotic for how blatantly obvious it was.
>https://twitter.com/ReimuEndou/status/1754946895951077887

>>70619851
>>70619869
I was talking about Enna. You'd have to be extremely retarded to enable her bullshit.

>>70619729
>Vox
Anon, Vox is a cookie cutter heel. He's what Elira should be doing if she wants to come back. Be an asshole, be aware of it, triple down and keep people simping on you on pure silver tongue skills.
He's no one's friend. But I won't deny his success.

>>70620024
Honestly, at this point I hope they keep going. The sooner they reveal something REALLY big and actually go under, the sooner Doki's fans can stop worrying about Nijisanji.

>>70620019
Exactly.

>>70619729
Writing so many words was probably a mistake, ESLchama.

>>70619987
Don't believe me? It's because you don't watch streams. She collaborated with Ike and Vox constantly. Selen even formed a subgroup with Vox, Enna and Fulgur. Vox even paid entirely for her Minecraft Prism event and co-hosted it with her. This was three months before her MV

>>70617541
>Fame doesn't equal talent
how would we measure talent and ability regarding streaming if you retards will claim any available metric that makes loser like Enna look bad are not admissable?
if it's totally subjective than all the random 2view indies I watch are more talented than anyone at Niji EN

>>70619729

>>70620436
And then they threw her under the bus? That's so fucked up.

>>70620461
>all the random 2view indies I watch are more talented than anyone at Niji EN
hold up, you might be onto something

>>70620436
Mythbusters worked closely on a TV show for several years. They were completely indifferent to each other and never even ate a meal together the entire time they filmed the show.

>>70619406
God I fucking hate this bug bitch

>>70620436
Vox was assigned to Selen, you retard. Maybe it's (you) that doesn't watch streams.
When luxiem launched Vox was collabing with Selen and was getting carried in Apex.

Sisters have short memories. It's hilarious how quickly they 180. This time last year they were absolutely IN LOVE with Selen for collabing with Milord and helping him get off to a good start. They absolutely hated Nina for collabing with the guys, even though they were leeching hard before luxiem got off the ground. Now they somehow looooove her. They hated Rosemi for pandering to unicorns and getting chummy with Luca. Now they adoooore her. They absolutely loathed Reimu for interrupting Milord's rape-date and getting too close to him. Now they positively worship her.

>>70620170
Then there's only one thing left to do.
Elira and her Clique MUST openly turn megalomaniac heel or forever be one guy'ed.
>>70620436
With "friends" like these within that company, no wonder she wanted to kill herself.

>>70619729
>breaking rules
what you sisters have never understood from the start is no one cares about Nijisanji's internal rules, especially not compared to bullying someone to the point of being suicidal

>>70620436
>a low self-esteem/suicidal person gets talked into working together with snakes and some bullies
I can make rrats too anon, never been on a school before?

>>70620436
>Selen even formed a subgroup with Vox, Enna and Fulgur.
That doesn't sound right. You sure it was Enna? I doubt her relationship with her was that strong.
Since this is relevant, why does Enna even hate her guts in the first place? I remember back during debut, Selen was with Enna in quite a few collabs. Even if the energy is different and etc. I really would not expect their relationship to be one of dislike. At worst, it should've been neutral.
Did shit just go down behind the doors? It makes no sense at all unless it was for petty reasons.

>>70620628
Sometimes Myth members do get together like recently Kiara visited Ina's place.

Also for her being such "close" friends with Vox and Ike and the other nijisanji family, she wasn't even in their super secret management-free unofficial discord. (the same one from the all out war leak)

>>70620965
It was. The group was called #NijiCancelled and it was hilarious. They played really well off each other's humor and played games like a neutered cards against humanity, the trolley game, and golf.

>>70620147
>Selen attempted to negotiate to get out of her contract,
Tell me where they said she was negotiating getting out of her contract. Doki never even said she wanted an immediate graduation, just one on good terms. By her own words, they never ghosted her. She says she was ignored for a week. She says she requested to plan out her graduation on the 26th of January. Later she says she was ignored for a week so she sent the document on February 5th. Which gives them the 26th, 27th and 28th to have responded. She accused people of harassment publicly and she says she has receipts but never shows them. All the "slander" was never even refuted by her, she even admits to some of it like keeping a recording of Vox and alluding to Enna's location. A good reputation speaks nothing about the true nature of the person, it just makes people question how someone they believed to be good could end up so rotten

>>70621046
Yeah the others did, but Adam and Jamie famously had virtually no contact outside of the bare minimum for their work.

>>70621209
>they never ghosted her. She says she was ignored for a week

>>70621091
I remember that. She was playing Assassin's Creed 2 when iluna was announced and she talked about it. It's kinda unnerving in hindsight...

>>70621166
Why would Enna then dislike Selen then that much? Would you really collab with someone you didn't like that much to be in an unofficial group?

>>70621273
Ghosted her about the graduation since it needs clarification

dookieturd's pity subs vs enna's legit hard earned subs. im proud of enna.

>>70621543

>>70621166
>#NijiCancelled
Selen gets cancelled by the clique and "management"
>Because of this Niji gets cancelled by a lot of people, including a lawyer, a game developer, and a PR professor
The irony is real.

>>70621302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIIuilUWDJo
This collab was so bad that Scarle went onto a members stream and cried immediately after.

>>70621209
Not responding to her or her lawyer for a week is the definition of ghosting. Meanwhile while they aren't doing anything, she has no idea what her future even is. It was obviously a tactic from Niji legal. Who then shat the bed when they found out she had actual reciepts of the harassment and fired her within hours of getting that document. That should tell you everything about what she has. If she had nothing they would have never mentioned it or shared it internally or fired her so quickly. They misunderstood that she was going to release the thing so they panicked and wrote that crazy termination notice in an attempt to get in front of whatever it is that she has evidence of. This proved of course to be the wrong strategy.

>>70621704
Proof?

>>70620965
Former friends can become the most vicious enemies. Familiarity breeds contempt.
With how twisted the minds of Enna and Vox are, with how competitive and ambitious Doki is, it wouldn't be a surprise if that contempt accelerated within an environment as anarchic as NijiEN.

>>70605225
The only one who took a side in the Doki/Kurocolor yab was Mumei and that was though her RM. You're just gonna pretend that Promise aren't a bunch of introverts that don't collab with anybody with the exception of Bae who is clearly in the holo unity camp?

>>70606347
Just more proof they don't actually watch the livers they supposedly "support"

>>70621704
The ironic thing is that it wasn't even scheduled to be a collab until LK leaked the Aster bullying messages, so management forced Scarle to do the collab to prove that everything was actually fine between them. Which was of course the wrong decision for a girl who is a nervous wreck in the best of times

>>70620965
Well coincidentally those 3 are with Selen in a frame of her "Last Cup of Coffee" song (notice they disappear as she open her eyes):
https://youtu.be/L88r98G4YiM?t=144

That same frame, in Lily Pichu's original version shows some leaves blown away by the wind:
>https://youtu.be/hF0I9h7C4A4?t=144

They are blown away LOL

>>70620873
> They absolutely hated Nina for collabing with the guys, even though they were leeching hard before luxiem got off the ground. Now they somehow looooove her.
You're full of shit, they gave Nina shit until she graduated. I know you're trying to create a convenient narrative about sisters closing ranks around all of NijiEN, but this is just pure fucking shit. Shut the fuck up, retard.

>>70619406
>>70620226
Pure evil bitches. They will have their just desserts.

>>70621975
>canonically btfo
Pottery. Such best friends lmao

>>70621543
Sigh...
https://files.catbox.moe/pylpsu.mp4

>>70621805
During negotiations, if the terms are clear and no side is budging, negotiations are over. They responded to her wanting to plan out her graduation and agreed to allow her to continue her activities as Selen as long as she clears up the misunderstanding online which she obviously refused. She assumed that Nijisanji wasn't taking her threat to sue and ruin their reputation seriously so she sent the document to prove that she would. Nijisanji realizes she is genuinely threatening them and other members so they immediately fire her. Her getting fired for threatening to sue and accuse does not prove that any accusation is true. If she has evidence that proves without a doubt she was objectively harassed, I'll eat my shorts

>>70605952
>>70606347
ALSO, this is the SAME CHARITY that is on Dokibird's waiting room

>>70621866
nta but mumei and fauna did a collab not too long ago.

>>70622069
The nyfco sisters (read: you) are now very much in love with matarakan, because she is friends (allegedly) with notKyo and notMysta.
Keep astroturfing.

>>70621302
The simple answer is because Enna and Selen didn't hate each other and were genuinely good friends. Occam's razor and all that

>>70622420
I'm supposed to hate her now? I was a viewer for years. Fuck this. I'm done with this Doki bullshit. You guys have fun.

>>70622431
Why do people think the livers have to be besties to collab? There's a difference between hate, neutral and good friends even if you ignore ulterior motives like making content your fans want instead of what you would prefer

>>70621975
This is the some Kubrick faked the moon landing kind of logic

>>70622541
Well, given how she shat all over Sayu for committing the grave sin of mentioning the former was sad with nijiEN management, given how she never forgave her even after the latter apologized profusely, and given how she was a woke communist fleshtuber before becoming a vtuber, any sane person would at the very least be apprehensive.

But (you) do you.

>>70621209
Got any specific sources for those claims? Cuz I got one for each of yours.
>Tell me where they said she was negotiating getting out of her contract.
From both the termination notice and her twitter post.
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1754459182412222481/photo/2
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1757763627413631383
>She claimed that she was no longer able to engage in her activities as a liver due to the decisions made by ANYCOLOR
as well as
>I requested that I just wanted to move on.

>Doki never even said she wanted an immediate graduation, just one on good terms.
>"I did try to leave neutral because I knew it would be very bad if we tried to go to the last possible route... I did get a lawyer because my emergency contact and I couldn't really handle it anymore, especially when I was still recovering."
https://youtu.be/J2YmJL0PX5M?t=9104
https://x.com/dokibird/status/1754459958119432664?s=20
She was trying to leave and she was at her breaking point. I don't think she wanted a graduation anymore if her and her emergency contact was being harassed from the fucking hospital.

>By her own words, they never ghosted her. She says she was ignored for a week.
>Sometimes I didn’t hear anything for days from the lawyers on the other side and felt like I’d be alone and isolated for a long time. It made it so hard for me mentally.
The existence of "Sometimes" implies that she wasn't getting replies for days on multiple occasions, not just one. What seems more likely is that she'd been trying to negotiate a graduation before Jan 26th, but on the 26th she gave up and she and her lawyer decided to negotiate a complete dismissal of the contract or termination instead, which caused them to completely ghost her. 7 days with no response is still fucking bad after building up something resembling a rapport, especially if they made such a knee-jerk decision upon being given more information for her case (which still isn't a lawsuit before you try that talking point). I guess it makes sense when their company can't even ask themselves if it's ok to use their own IP within 37 hours.

>All the "slander" was never even refuted by her,
Why would it be? Even if you go off of their own words (other than the obvious lies like her not paying artists), the termination notice explicitly states nonsense like "non-compliance with rights confirmation and authorization flows" which clearly refers to her gaining permissions from devs and artists directly rather than waiting for management to stop dragging their feet. Most of the things stated in the termination notice are actually positive qualities for an entertainer and clearly a sign that management is the issue for restricting her in batshit stupid ways, on top of their favoritism.
You can see the example of management being useless here.
https://youtu.be/o65VwnQvWW4?t=289

>she even admits to some of it like keeping a recording of Vox and alluding to Enna's location.
> Although it was a document filled with my personal information as well privacy information that should not be public, there were no other addresses or specific locations mentioned. Regarding a recording, this was not intended to be anything other than a distribution test for planning of a collaborative event between two people, which happened to be left over from one test recording, and I never recorded any other conversations with anyone. The recording was never shown anywhere even in a legal setting and there are no other records. However, I regret that it was mentioned and I am sorry to all parties affected for the misunderstanding in this.

>A good reputation speaks nothing about the true nature of the person, it just makes people question how someone they believed to be good could end up so rotten
It does when it comes from many, many different sources that have no connection other than that they AREN'T currently being directly paid by Nijisanji.

Seriously, did you even read either tweet, watch Doki's statement, or even watch the black screen video yourself?

>>70622753
I guess because they don't see what they do as a job, but buy the magical anime girls bullshit

>>70622753
Why would you be willing to consistently choose to collab with someone you hate and want dead ? No one was begging Enna and Selen to collab. If they did hate each other, I'd imagine they'd have to disguise their hatred for each other for hours and never let it slip. I just don't see a reason to willingly do that

>>70621975
What do those plush toys (00:02:08) represent in Selen's MV? I never understood the significance of them.

>>70623002
I was addressing the "were genuinely good friends" claim. I have no idea if they hated each other or not, but that line came out of your ass if you wrote this. That being said, it is possible for some people to do exactly what you describe, even if I don't think Enna or Selen are actual psychopaths.

Selen making Enna look like an absolute retard, to an audience that Enna keeps trying to appeal for:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDC01CPNexw

Given how spiteful is Enna, I bet she never forgot this.

>>70623002
Believe it or not, situations change and relationships can sour. Selen seemingly started having problems with management in May last year. Safe to assume something happened.

>>70623226
Day 1 dragoon here who stopped around mid 2022. She's had problems since at least late 2021. She was likely coping before then.

>>70623223
Yeah, she never forgot. That's why she RAPED HER during the offcollab.

>>70604968
she will still be mogging niji's a month from now

>>70622805
I guess Matarekan wasn't the goon person I though she was...

>>70619984
I love how people always guess correct about how many ccv is 1 finana

>>70623518
She's not that bad, but the problem is she stopped improving herself. Instead she runs away from the things she doesn't like so she's kind of at the end of her personal journey.
Whatever bad thing happens, you best accept it if you're a fan of hers because it's only downhill from there.

>>70623695
The FSU (Finana Standard Unit), is not official !

>>70622805
>someone tells you something in confidence
>you blab that out on stream and pretty much force someone's hand into talking about something they weren't fully comfortable with
Not a big surprise that she reacted negatively. Whatever, none of this matters anyway. I don't have any savior complex, I'm just here to enjoy myself.

Enna is chinese
Selen is fake chinese
Enna hates Selen because Selen didn't speak real chinese
It's just that simple

>>70623941
>Enna is chinese
And 100 other lies you keep telling yourself.

>>70623941
The chinese are no better than the pajeets when it comes to caste bullshit and superiority complexes based on geography. Selen is from HK and Enna is from Taiwan.
I don't care enough about chink inner politics to look it up, but there's probably bad blood between HK, mainland, taiwan.

>>70621209
>keeping a recording of Vox
Canada is one party consent you subhuman filth, she had every right to do that legally and morally for that matter

>>70622854
>She claimed that she was no longer able to engage in her activities as a liver due to the decisions made by ANYCOLOR
>I requested that I just wanted to move on.
This isn't proof the negotiations were about letting her leave her contract. It's proof she wanted to graduate. The claims of her being harassed in the hospital are baseless and illogical. Selen wouldn't have had her phone since she was placed in the psychiatric ward and Elira said Selen told them herself what happened. The most likely scenario is Selen wanted to be done with Nijisanji as a whole due to frustrations of negotiations falling apart so she instead requested that she wanted to at least have her graduation events and she'd be gone after that. Nijisanji continued to say she'd only be able to continue her activities in Niji as long as she clears up the misunderstanding so with negotiations not going anywhere, Nijisanji stopped replying to attempts to negotiate more as the terms for both sides were clear. The noncompliance with rights and activity flows is meant to be her trying to hold a fall guys tournament without permission and uploading the MV without permission. Doki never says she didn't allude to Enna's location, only that she didn't specifically put her address on the document. She never denied she secretly recorded Vox, only that the recording was never intended to be used against Nijisanji. The recording was only quoted in the document but obviously, the recording itself isn't physically on the paper. A good reputation online is unimportant to the situation. Murderers and thieves usually have good reputations as well. The term "I never would have expected they were capable of that" is said a lot for a reason.

>>70624118
Worst part is that it wasn't even evidence at all, just a test recording that got sent with the rest and didn't contain anything.

>>70623941
>Enna is chinese
Yes, but she can barely speak it
>Selen is fake chinese
Selen is from Hong Kong, is that part of China or not? Remember your answer counts towards your social credit score Anon.
>Enna hates Selen because Selen didn't speak real chinese
The other way around, Selen speaks better Chinese than her. I know because I speak Chinese you lying mongrel.

>>70623217
those are fanmascots of other members cumbud
first batch is lazulight, obysdia and ethyria
second batch is luxiem and noctyx + "long neck" version of Selen's mascot
third batch is iluna and xsoleil + "chomky" version of Selen's mascot

>>70624192
>The most likely scenario is [fanfiction taken as fact]

>>70624277
>>70624277
>The other way around, Selen speaks better Chinese than her. I know because I speak Chinese you lying mongrel.
Selen speak Cantonese while Enna speak Mandarin faggot
in their collab Selen can understand Enna's mandarin but Enna can't understand jackshit of cantonese

>>70624277
"Enna said that she sound like dog?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbnTr52BA38

Selen totally humiliated Enna. You could say, Selen [insert Apex Predator clip] from Enna's perspective.

>>70624434
Like I said anon, Cantonese is superior, stop being a dull faggot.

>>70624385
It wouldn't make any sense for her to only just start requesting to graduate on the 26th when negotiations would have been going on for almost an entire month. Obviously she was negotiating something else. I'm not Selen so I wouldn't know what she was negotiating before the 26th, I think it's a good thing to admit that things are only speculation if you don't know specifics

Selen/Doki speaks Cantonese (cuz HK) but her Mandarin (the chinese lingua franca) is rusty and scuffed. Enna speaks Mandarin (Taiwanese) in a strange manner and cannot speak Cantonese.
Different chink dialects clue you into the wider politics.

>>70624649
I'm tired of hearing people's head canon when it's clear they don't know anything and are just trying to push a rrat.

>>70624118
How would it be slander if it's true? Morally, I believe it's not right to hold a recording of something your friend tells you in private to prove their job favors him over other people. I believe Doki also believes this since she gives a reason why the recording happened and says it was never intended to be proof

>>70624495
Imagine if these two people could have communicated like adults and apologize to each other over any perceived slights. I think I'm done with all this, I guess I'm a both sides bad nootral fag. Paints the whole "Shylen" persona in a different light and makes her seem like a conniving bitch or someone who just accepted the doormat treatment until she exploded one day. I honestly don't know who I respect less in this hypothetical scenario, the bitter and petty womanlet Enna or Selen. I might be overthinking this.

>>70624192
>Selen wouldn't have had her phone
Yes, that's why she mentioned her emergency contact in the same sentence.
As you can see from this statement that they were confident enough to put in their termination notice, they fucking harassed her emergency contact to get her to say she did an oopsie with the video. She was in the fucking hospital and they still didn't have the humanity to leave her alone and prioritized her "activity rules" over her actual life. Graduation would've been the last thing on her mind at this point. When you nearly fucking die due to your working conditions leaving you in such a vulnerable mental state, you would want to leave NOW. Not in 3 months.
> Nijisanji stopped replying to attempts to negotiate more as the terms for both sides were clear
This is absolutely not how LEGAL negotiations work. Don't even pretend that there's a good reason for this, especially when their largest remaining female talent nearly dies.

>The noncompliance with rights and activity flows is meant to be her trying to hold a fall guys tournament without permission and uploading the MV without permission.
That's a load of horse shit. As we know from Nijisanji's own screenshots and video, management has a history of ignoring her and applying rules selectively.

>Doki never says she didn't allude to Enna's location, only that she didn't specifically put her address on the document. She never denied she secretly recorded Vox, only that the recording was never intended to be used against Nijisanji.
...What the hell are you talking about?
>Although it was a document filled with my personal information as well privacy information that should not be public, there were no other addresses or specific locations mentioned.
If the information shouldn't be public, and she wasn't making it public and had no intention to make it public, how is it an issue? The only people who DID make any part of it public is Nijisanji. And a distribution test means that it's meant to be a recorded file to begin with. How do you distribute something that doesn't exist? It's just a leftover file that happened to be relevant.

>A good reputation online is unimportant to the situation. Murderers and thieves usually have good reputations as well. The term "I never would have expected they were capable of that" is said a lot for a reason.
Yes, but we also know that Nijisanji has a history of shady, awful practices, and that's why we were shocked to find out that Vox and Elira could be associated with such terrible people.

>>70624856
Me too, buddy. I think we should be friends and try to find out what actually happened together

It really is that simple while you retards do all these gymnastics to justify it.
If Enna makes fun of blacks because of fried chicken snoop dogg and watermelon then why is it surprising she would hate Selen for being a different Chinese like all the other Chinese do

>>70625012
>If Enna makes fun of blacks because of fried chicken snoop dogg
Fucking based.

>>70612571
>>70612699
>terminated : february 05
>surpassed all the active member's sub : march 05
Poetry!!

>>70624856
What's far more likely if there ever even was a graduation negotiation was that before Jan 26th, she wanted a graduation, but at that point she had completely given up and wanted to be terminated, causing them to ghost her while they tried to figure out any possible way to spin it in their favor.

>>70624995
There's already enough public evidence to have an opinion on the important stuff. If you don't believe Niji behaved like pissy bitches I want nothing to do with you. I don't care about doki's "truth" people want to peddle here. I don't watch her enough to care about sisters coping and betting on her being a villain

Actually, Enna hates Selen because she saw /vt/ posts praising Selen while she was still in NijiEN
The Dragoon thread really "loved" the management, and the management turned out to be, surprise, Elira and her clique girl Enna, so I'm sure that played a part in cultivating the flames of hatred within Enna

>>70619729
>corpo good
>nijiEN big family
>just ignore everything else
>believe my headcanon
Wow a sister reusing the same argument from the first days again, color me surprised.
It's over sister, you're just dying on a hill when the war was over a month ago.

>>70601729
Superb bait post I kneel to your skillz

>>70624917
They say this happened on the 26th and not the 27th when she attempted. Selen was mentally unstable which is why they mostly communicated with her emergency contact so they would be the one to relay messages to her to not further upset her. Doki was not negotiating for her graduation until the 26th of January. The negotiations weren't going anywhere so they stopped negotiating, this is all how negotiations work unless you believe nobody negotiated before starting a war. Management not responding on time is not a reason to purposely break the rules and she explicitly didn't ask for permission with the fall guys tournament since she assumed she still had permission when she didn't. Doki says no specific address was given, not that a location wasn't alluded to. Doki never denied recording Vox, only purposely doing so. She still would have used the recording she secretly kept to prove favoritism which would be considered a betrayal to Vox. She threatened to make it public which is why it's an issue. The reason why she says it was never made with the intention of it being public and not " I would never make it public" is because her intentions changed since she never expected to be immediately fired. A reputation doesn't matter much so we have no idea how a person is like in private

>>70625456
It's not good to be close minded but I'm aware of where I'm speaking so I expected the response. Worth a shot though

We really need a new unit to measure Sisters retarded cope arguments, they're reaching new lows everyday and I want something to rate their estupidity.
Like this post >>70621209, They're back to the "show proof" when the entire corpo incriminated itself like the retards they are, they still don't understand that no matter what Doki does, nijiEN acted like a petty child and made one of the worst PR moves in years that now are being used in universities to "NEVER GO FULL RETARD LA KUROSANJI"
So I give it a 2 RU(retard unit), very low because is an old argument and low effort to boot, work harder sis you're not fooling anyone with weak bait.

>>70617628
i used to dream about the shuriken tits, but now?, only doki big tatas

>>70626303
Nice fanfic. Or were you a parasite in her head listening to her thoughts?

>>70626540
I'm considering everything, I read whole paragraphs, I love fiction, but girl, at some point you gotta cite some sources because if both A and B are possible, I'm not gonna believe A happened for sure. That says more about you than me desu.

>>70622338
>They responded to her wanting to plan out her graduation and agreed to allow her to continue her activities as Selen as long as she clears up the misunderstanding online which she obviously refused. She assumed that Nijisanji wasn't taking her threat to sue and ruin their reputation seriously so she sent the document to prove that she would
proof? you just made all this up based on nothing

Trying to paint yourself as a "neutral party" and then spewing shit everywhere is so funny.

>>70626848
I based it off the termination notice and Selen's statement. Both contain zero lies if this is what happened. Since there's no real proof anyone lied and the only thing that's being fought about between both sides is whether harassment happened or not, I'll assume they're both telling the truth

>>70627262
I too say shit like "she assumed" when I don't have a single clue what she was thinking or why she did things and I just stick to facts. Oh wait no

>>70624864
>How would it be slander
can you show even a single occurrence of any person at all ever claiming the recording thing was slander???
that's not even close to one of the main things people had a problem with vox saying in the black slander video
this doesn't even seem like a strawman you're just making things up fullstop because you're too retarded to understand what people do and don't take issue with about what the niji side has said

>>70624495
If they were really good friends, which was kind of the impression people got online, this type of banter shouldn't be an issue and this was only done partway collab until Selen started speaking Mandarin too and translating her Cantonese into English with her. But the main issue i have is this was done quite late in comparison to when problems started to crop up.

>>70627262
>I'll assume they're both telling the truth
statements from niji and the livers have contradicted each other, even within the termination letter itself. We know they're lying about certain things even if Foki didn't respond
you are a drooling retard

>>70627444
She said herself she was shocked when she found out she was fired, that's not an opinion. Obviously she was surprised and that's because she never expected to be fired. She wouldn't have been surprised if she could have assumed that would have happened

>>70627675
Great. Show me the contradictions in the termination notice with information from reliable sources

>>70627825
>She assumed that Nijisanji wasn't taking her threat to sue and ruin their reputation seriously
This is the context, you genius

>>70627972
Well that should be obvious considering she only felt the need to send the document on February 5th. What need would there be to send a document while you're trying to strike up negotiations if not to force them back to the negotiation table or get them to fold?

>>70627520
First and foremost, you have to say what in the video was slander. Their opinions on what's happening is legally not slander and they have to state false information for it to be slander