/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

hopefully never

>>70526099
When argie economy recovers

>>70526099
Just like holoID the vast majority will speak EN anyway and collab exclusively with "Hakka senpai"

>>70526099
nunca
OP es puto btw

ES speaker here
Hopefully never

>>70526099
would be the final yab for holo

>>70526099
never! we are poor

Spanish and Latino culture are not fully adapted to weeb and otaku culture to do the vtuber thing properly. Prove me wrong but I feel there's too much normalfag prevalence still.

>>70526516
>Spanish and Latino culture are not fully adapted to weeb and otaku culture t
lol
lmao
The main issue is that we are poor

Never please

ES would be like ID, might bring in some new viewers but doomed to become effectively an EN branch with funny accents. EN and JP are where the money is and there's no getting around that.

>>70526516

>>70526337
Honestly I don't get ID. Why is Kaela in ID if she speaks English most of the time? Might as well just put in her in the EN branch.

>>70526099
>EN native language GDP/capita $65k.
>JP native language GDP/capita $42k
>ES native language GDP/capita $8k

Gee OP. I wonder why.

>>70526516
no, problem is that we are poor and love drama too much.

>>70526099
HoloPH first

>>70526516
Isn't Hakka mexican? How does he fare?

>>70526099
Mexico GDP $13,800
Argentina $13,300
Brazil $11,200
Venezuela $3,500
Honduras $3,300
Chile $17,200
Spain $33,000
>Indonesia $5,500
>Japan $34,000

>>70526501
>>70526584
>we are poor
no, only u dear argensimian anon

If IdolES doesn't end up becoming an absolute disaster just like every single corp that tried to step on hispanic territory, maybe they will consider it.

>>70526726
>Kaela subs: 720k
>Kobo subs: 2.3MM
>Kaela supas: $320k
>Kobo supas: $89k

>>70526915
wtf I have more money than all those countries?

>>70526989
That was WACTOR fault and you know it

>>70526959
Why are Mexicans like this? As if they are any better

>>70526902
is he mexican or just a chicano?

>>70526902
From his accent and how he has described some foods, he's either from the south of Mexico or from some other country in Centroamérica. Definitely not fucking chicano lol
As to how he's doing, no clue currently but last year he was the #2 Holostar in terms of USD earned from SC's, only behind Bettel.

>>70526959
I'm not even argentinia you ignorant fuck. Latin american countries in general have a much lower minimum salary than USA or European countries

>>70526099
In two weeks
The chuubas will be:
Pancha sanchez kichichami (spaniard)
Kiwashimi sashimi (hafu peruvian)
Chapa gutierrez (mexican)
Andrea and Andreinha (argie and brazilean that can speak spanish (football themed channel for both fuwamoco style))

>>70526099
>【WATCHALONG】CRUZ AZUL VS BOCA JUNIOR COPA LIBERTADORES

>>70528061
>ERA, MALDITO SEA EL VAR SINSOM

>>70526099
Never. Not even ironlung speaks that sugarcane plantation language during her streeams anymore.

>>70527597
spanish is also spoken in USA and spain anon

>>70526959
Venezuela...
Peru...
Bolivia...
Half of Central America...

>>70528207
Spanish is only spoke in the USA because of lazy immigrants.

I hope that soon all I have is Pippa but I hope something similar to her comes along

>>70528392
>el peruANO

>>70526099
Why do you say holoES instead of holoMX which is what you clearly mean?
Ame is latinx, go watch her

>>70528061
Mexican teams aren't libertadores retard

>>70528392
bvtm?

>>70528392
kill yourself kyouko

>>70528533
>Latinx
Kill yourself you zoomer faggot.

The whole point of chuubas is to forget I live here.

>>70526099
NUNCA. YA CALLATE. NADIE QUIERE HOLOES. NO QUIERO QUE LAS CHICAS DE HOLOEN SE CONTAMINEN. QUE TIENES EN LA CABEZA?????

>>70526099
HoloES? It is more like HoloESL

>>70528705
>HOLOEN SE CONTAMINEN
>Mori
>Kronii
Un poco tarde no crees

>>70526099
shame on you for not baking with this
https://files.catbox.moe/87s6wb.jpg

>>70526337
spanish community is the biggest in streaming. all the biggest streamer speak spanish

>>70526880
better luck next time, Luis

>>70529239
Güera my beloved

>>70526516
Spanish speakers are much more otaku than English speakers. In English speaking countries only recently did anime become massively popular and it's full of "ironic weebs". I have never seen someone ironically liking anime in the Hispanic forums or conventions, but it feels like at least one third of English speaking fans are ironic.
>>70526771
Using this GDP per capita comparison is faulty in this case because first Cover already works in Japan and the Anglosphere, and second the main appeal of the Spanish market would be the large population, which is not shown in per capita comparisons.

>>70529005
Kronii y Mori son santas comparadas con las putongas que hay en latam, todas las que se meten a vtubers son ex camgirls o AW con delirios de superioridad.

>>70528705
Yo quiero HoloES
¿Por que son tan chupapija de los yanquis?
>wa wa mi cultura es una mierda wa wa
Da vergüenza ajena

>>70528207
but that is such a small market... not going to work. Also I have no clue if the anime culture is prominent in spain

>>70528061
>cruz azul
>libertadores

>>70529431
>Kronii y Mori son santas comparadas con las putongas que hay en latam
Ay buenos, eso si

>>70529431
nunca he visto una vtuber que no me de cringe

>>70529631
Yo quiero HoloES pero no me imagino que logren ganar mucho, y tambien necesitan si o si tener un manager que sepa de la cultura latino americana. Un manager japones se va a morir

>>70529361
The point is the large population is significantly poorer. And the ones that do have more disposable income are more highly educated which means they are more likely to speak EN anyway. It's just not profitable unless they're based someone in Latin America.

>>70526330
I guess it makes the suffering worth it then, at least we are doing something good

>>70526099
Pronto, amigo
We have idoles for now

>>70530040
>idoles
no mames que puto asco

>>70530084
Vamos, si tenemos suerte talvez no toca nuestra propio Riro

>>70529932
>they're based someone in Latin America.
What? You mean based somewhere in Latin America?
>And the ones that do have more disposable income are more highly educated which means they are more likely to speak EN anyway
Lol no
Richfags in my experience like to pretend they know English but most of the time they can barely hold a conversation. You can easily see it in CEO-type politicians, they act like they know English but then they open their mouths and are primary school level
One way or the other the appeal is in masive numbers, not in the per capita wealth anyway.

>>70529631
Honestly talking about nationality only opens the gate for low iq vermin that'd bring up shit like >>70526959 unironically, and even considering how niche ES vtubing is, no one sane and with knowledge of JP vtubing would want to deal with such vermin. As an ideal, what one should aspire to have would be to mention having spanish as a first language early, and bring up regional culture after building a tolerable member community.

>>70529852
Si eso si, pero es como abrir una franquicia en cualquier mercado nuevo, tenes que entender la cultura y la forma de organizarse.

>>70530377
No creo, si bien los insultos entre distintas regiones son relativamente normales cuando se trata de youtubers me parece que no hay tanto filtro. Por ejemplo hay youtubers de España, Chile, Mexico, Argentina, etc. que son populares en todo el mundo hispano, no se ve el mismo regionalismo.

>>70526726
It's a blessing in disguise, it throws the right people off the scent

It's funny as shit how if a liver from argentina were to get 1/10 of the supas an average holo receives during a bd event or something, they'd be able to live like a queen for a whole year lmao

>>70529361
most "ironic weebs" are women, anon. Men don't need to pretend to like anime because they can say other entertaining things. Women for some reason believe that they need to be totally attentive to all fashions, and if you realize many vtubers from the Hispanic community are like this: ask some of them who Tokino Sora is, many times I have mentioned holos and they can't even recognize Gawr Gura.

no entiendo a ver los que rompen los huevos con HoloES... para que?
con las jp id y en ya se cubre el 100% de lo que uno quiere. No jodan con que se les complica el idioma y escuchar una chuba en español es mas facil.

Reimu endou es una chica muy caliente

WTF You all talking about??? Everyone here speak alien, even seamonkeys can speak English. No wonder cover never consider HoloES

>>70531095
>¿por que querrian HoloEs?
>no, ese motivo no es valido porque... simplemente no lo es ¿ok?

>>70531263
>the world is /vt/

>>70531377
ser altos burros no es un motivo valido.

>>70531788
No todos tienen porque saber ingles, anon.

>>70531263
fucking die gringo
indos siempre cambian de idioma

>>70526915
Mexico just doesn't have as much of a relationship with Japan as Indonesia does. SEAmonkeys are all weebs, have history with Japan & are literally neighbors. I looked up outward foreign investment from Japan (number is millions USD, data from 2022) & Indonesia gets almost four times the Japanese salaryman cock as Mexico. No other Spanish country had large enough payouts to even be included on the spreadsheet other than Spain at 600. It's worth note that Brazil isn't Spanish so they aren't really included in the discussion but despite a massive Japanese population, it still isn't as popular for investment

>>70526717
that's fucking cringe dude...

>>70526915
>>70532285
forgot the screenshot

>>70532285
>>70532413
Why are you using Japanese investment as a metric to decide wether HoloES would be succesful or not?

>>70532319
Cringe but SOVL

Yo kero tocobell juan arriva andale

>>70526099
Goku vtuber when?

>>70532730
>Hola, Onions Goku

>>70532573
Read what I was replying to. He was comparing Indonesia's GDP to Latin America's GDP. Obviously HoloES would be successful, but it makes sense they chose Indonesia first.

>>70532760
Otra vez derrotado por la cebolla

>>70532808
Ah yeah, it makes sense that a Japanese company would pick Indonesia first for an investment

>>70532009
Nah al contrario por lo menos un poco de ingles basico se tiene que saber a estas alturas no seas malo.

>>70532991
Yo se ingles pero no tiene sentido que un otaku tenga que saber ingles para poder ver chuuba.

Latin American Twitterfreaks, antis and harassers are more dangerous than English speakers.

Let's imagine a situation where IdolES is released (I hope never). If a gimmik account from shitpost, anime, cringe compilation, or any random normie that uses "Clout Chasing" in its favor to get likes realizes that almost 70% of IdolCorp vtubers are lolis, it will send their brainless followers to attack the company (not to mention the "Criticism and Drama Channels that are going to benefit from the drama because "attacking lolis = doxing people = good :D"... basically shitty moralists)

Latin America HATES lolis (there are videos with 200K views that make fun of that. Like the "Klyur" video) and harassment is okay as long as the harassed person is bad, knowing that defining someone as good or bad It is something subjective; If someone doxes a Vtuber who for them "is a pedophile because MUUH LOLIS BAD", why would there be a need to defend?

Here the ideology of Black or White is followed. Are you on my side or are you a pedophile? And taking that same into account, if something like IdolES or worse still, HoloES were to exist, it would be the massive destruction of the Vtuber community, at least in Spanish speaking.

That agency has a contract with YouTube.

Artificial CCVs (servers for that).

A handful watch hololive vtubers (in English and very few in Japanese).

Your SC will not be read across multiple rainbows unless planned.

If that agency were to fall, the vtubing industry would end and the vast majority of indies would take the path of Kson or Nimu. It is there where we will see who are vtubing lovers if they are able to use an avatar and not IRL.

HoloES will happen after the war with Ukraine and that is if the agency survives.

>>70533616 (me)
also: example of retarded people

>>70533616
>Latin America HATES lolis
The fuck are you saying?

>>70526099
EN is already pain in the ass to manage, let alone an ES branch. They only show favoritism to Asian countries anyway

>>70533616
>Latin America HATES lolis
???
You have clearly never gone to an anime convention here.

>>70533616
>Latin America HATES lolis (there are videos with 200K views that make fun of that. Like the "Klyur" video)
Isn't Nimu a Loli?

>>70533778
>>70533837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2F84jnrfCs&t=1126s&ab_channel=Owlsitohh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRjtItUmf78&ab_channel=Klyur

>>70533865
>Nimu
nimu es un adefecio que le hizo mas mal que bien a la comunidad hispana (sin mencionar a Wactor o Owozu)
also nimu isn't a loli anymore.

>>70533446
El problema no es el idioma si no las comunidades. Prefiero mucho más la comunidad gringa a la última vtuber horny que ve videorreacciones (la 4ta esta semana).

>>70534091
Yeah, but the model that made her popular, despite her being so insufferable, was a loli. And literally who are those youtubers? kek

>>70534177
I'm so disconnected from the ES community that I literally can't think of who you're talking about lol.

>>70534091
>Retard being retard
I guess all of EN is nothing but SJW and trannies then

>>70533778
>>70533837
We are just used to lolis. Anon is right about how the general public tends to react to it, you can find it easily on social media, but it's not something exclusive to latam, it leans more into the public outrage demographic.

>>70534243
>but the model that made her popular
so?
That was literally in the past (2 years if I remember correctly).
her loli phase is no longer important and is something really unnecessary to talk about. it's kinda funny that you put Nimu as "Example of Loli Vtuber". It is one of the worst you could choose, knowing her history and reputation on the internet lol

>>70534177
>>70534281
Hay Vtubers que safan mas, Aisu Kurimu por ejemplo creo que encajaria bien en la cultura de Hololive.

>>70534504
I wasn't the anon who used her as an example. It's irrelevant what she is doing now, if we hated lolis she would've never been popular at all.

>>70534550
Yumegirls son de las pocas que tienen fama y no se adaptan a esa retrasada cultura, aunque la piraña es una spammer de /aquí/

>>70533829
>average spending per customer
en otras palabras... pobres?

>>70526296
fpbp

>>70534615
i think she did like nyanners:
>grow thanks to a niche audience
>"I got tired of the attitude of the past. Now I will start to be more ME"
>Throw away your original audience and get a new normie audience, collaborating with Fleshtubers.

>>70533700
Basado !!

>>70533700
but that's a theory-

>>70534706
As a Peruvian, knowing that the majority of Latin countries live in socialism, I imagine that a company like Hololive would not want to invest in Latin America.
Although I have a little faith in Argentina that that can change. A little bit, but it's something I guess...

>>70533727
wtf... this dude is literalmente un completo autista.

>>70534948
Even then if what the anon said were truth wouldn't they have cancelled nimu for having used a loli model?

>>70535346
Why are the only ones able to kick socialist scum before they fuck up the country?

>>70535510
I know that we shouldn't talk about politics here, but I will just say that there are still people who support what they voted for and they are a majority.
We will have to wait, and I wish them luck.

only if some drug lord decided to invest billions of dollars into cover corp and demand her daughter to get into hololive in return

>>70526516
Spanish no, but latinos are huge huge weebs. The issue here is supas would not be much because of conversion rates.

>>70533616
i dunno dude i am latinx and i like Cunny (ToT). And i dont wanna harras idol for that. I just want UOOOOH

Seamos sinceros, HoloES no va a pasar nunca por el simple hecho que la estrategia de negocios de Hololive no encaja en el mercado latinoamericano, ellos no estan interesados actualmente en los SC o la ganancia poca o nula que se genera por "view". Su objetivo o meta está en la mercancía, en los sponsors/patrocinios y en los eventos.
Ahora parte por parte:
1) Mercancía: El abrir una rama ES implica una infraestructura y logística completa que no sabemos si sera redituable, un riesgo que por ahora es innecesario para ellos. Segundo no todos los fans estan dispuestos a pagar el precio de los envíos, 20 a 60 dólares por lo general dependiendo del país.
2) Sponsors: ¿Cuántas compañías hay que tengan la suficiente presencia y mercado en toda Latinoamérica? ¿Cuántas se beneficiarían de patrocinar a una Vtuber? Muy pocas si es que ningúna.
3) Eventos: Es un caso similar a la mercancía, la diferencia está en que hay eventos virtuales los cuáles son accesibles para cualquiera que pueda pagarlo y esto es algo que ya sucede, ¿Pero qué sucede en el caso de eventos en persona? En la mayoría de los países no hay estudios o espacios lo bastante grandes y equipados para algo como los conciertos.
Para una compañía del tamaño de Hololive el mercado es muy chico, mucho que perder poco que ganar económicamente hablando.
Sin embargo hay mercado para compañías más chicas, compañías locales y para el streamer o Vtuber independiente. Por eso tenemos el caso de idol que está tratando de abrir una rama de habla hispana, el caso de esta compañia brasileña que se me escapa el nombre y los casos de streamers independientes que encuentran éxito.
A menos que las cosas cambien radicalmente, no no habrá HoloES por un largo tiempo

>>70535510
All sides are corrupt in latin countries. In Peru the commies got kickes out by a strongman and then he started wanting to be a dictator after that. Its all a mess.

>>70536013
OpSec would be on whole different levem

>>70536253
>¿Cuántas se beneficiarían de patrocinar a una Vtuber?
mmm MercadoLibre can try

>>70526099
I hope never, girls here make rushia look like a fucking saint, you'd need at least 3 managers per talent just to keep them from self destructing.
There's a reason every single attempt so far has crashed and burned spectacularly.

>>70526099
When? WHEN??
I tell you when: When literal mongrel de la amerigas will be finally subjugated in holy crusade and civilized like proper people, by ORTHODOX ROMANIANS, ogay?
The cactus of liberty must be watered with the blood of literal mongolians (a.k.a. mexicans, who are basically hungarians).

>>70536531
que?

Idol already took the talents with the most potential from the hispanic community, Hololive has nothing to gain from getting in on this unless they got people like Meica to join them

>>70536531
based schizo gypsy

I don't get why some spics are so self-hating. We have some cute girls like Aisu, but you would rather watch some mediocre gringa over a talented spic girl you can actually support

>>70536253
>Seamos sinceros, HoloES no va a pasar nunca por el simple hecho que la estrategia de negocios de Hololive no encaja en el mercado latinoamericano
So for you, what is the type of market that Latin America is using? I want you to elaborate on that part, it may be interesting.

>>70536708
COPE
>>70536841
spics have inferiority complex. that's why they're so aggresive and pessimists i guess

>>70536253
Creo que para que se abra un HoloES primero tendria que entrar una chica bilingüe a EN(o JP pero seria mas raro) que logre hacer un par de videos virales que logren romper la barrera del mercado hispano, y de ahi construir una generacion de habla hispana.
>En la mayoría de los países no hay estudios o espacios lo bastante grandes y equipados para algo como los conciertos.
No entiendo esto ¿que tipo de equipo se necesita para los conciertos? Estadios hay ya.

>>70536996
>chica bilingüe
does he know?

>>70536841
we self hate because we know how shit we are. not a single corpo project has been proven succesful in all these years

no es solo las vtubers el problema sino tambien donde tributaria Cover. tener chubas desparramadas por toda latam no es buena idea economicamente si lo quiere hacer todo legal.

>>70526099
There is little to no money to be made from Latin America or Spain, and unfortunately Texas, California, and Florida can't hard carry an entire branch.

>>70536253
Debut a spanish dragon ballz and super sentai branch watch merch sells like hotcake.

Never

All the girls are sluts and only care for CCV, not revenew (meica)
They are all drama bitches (meica, nimu)
They do not care about the idol culture (meica)
They will always say that they have BFs (ironmouse)
They will always show face (emikukis)
They are mostly males

If the biggest examples don't teach you anything, it's never about the money or the fact that the countries are poor, even if we had money, I would rather spend it on Kroniii rather than some two faced bitch from LATAM

Yes, we have to do something against meica

>>70537958
Yeah people in the thread talking about money when that's not the problem. If you're weeb you're going to spend money in your girl. Simple as. But the culture is shit and I have yet to see a single latina that gets it.

>>70538457
This
I have seen people throw almost half of their salaries into their whores in twitch albeiit those girls have spoken bigly that they have boyfriiends and shit
LATAM's culture is full of the opposite of what Hololive does, while Hololive does idol, GFE, music, videogames and cute content, LATAM chubas content is only dramas, IRL shit, seeing the dramas from ecelebs, playing Riot Games games or the FOTM, saying that they have BFs, and constantly collabing witth males

Again, look at meica, massive CCV, low fucking income. She was better as WACTOR.

People talking about money clearly don't get it.

Nobody in Latin America wants to waste their time on the obvious slut types that would be attracted to doing vtubing in the first place.

If you're already into vtubing you either know English or watch Spanish clips and are more than happy with hololive and stuff than youd ever be with some two faced chick from El Salvador.

>>70538822
Only 1st worlders firmly think its about the money
Even Hakka has issues getting revenue as the only LATAM in Hololive, mostly because he can't do the shit other indie male vtubers do (he isn't cattering for the audience the LATAMs want)
Compare his gains towards retards like kendomurft, zilverK or any other male LATAM vtuber, heck even against fleshtubers, he suffers GREATLY because he is not the target audience that latinos want

>>70539587
what's the audience LATAM wants?

Cover may look more into ES, just because there is growing competition there. Wactor never counted. They've added Spanish subs for a while now. Cover is more competitive than they seem.

Expect some expansion this year, they've been seeking Korean and Spanish speaking support for years now. And they've been flooding TW with events, even supported by their govt.

>>70540041
>>70540077
First and foremost
>how do they look IRL
then
>react streams (random memes from tiktok, facebook, etc., a la IronMouse but worse)
>their IRL stances and personalities
>collabs EXCLUSIVELY with fleshtubers
>random ships that make no sense
>more react streams
>playing League of Legends, Valorant, GTA, FOTM, or some kind of low end browser only game

Take a look at prime Sunday hour LATAM chubas. Green circles reffer to chubas that are doing "zatsudans" with some kind of react meme shit, blue circles reffer to chubas playing the FOTM or Riot games games, yellow circles are prostitutes, and the pink circle is currently collabing with a male. This is not being a schizo, is knowing what the fuck the LATAMs want.

HoloES won't simply compete at all.

>>70536865
nta but streaming wise? It's hard to say... Streamers/content creators are kinda ruthless and fearless, they won't shy away from doing whatever is necessary to gain numbers and this ends up creating a very toxic environment and constant drama baiting. The market as a whole is too green for companies, of course there should be a way to exploit it but no idea how a company would do that without getting burned

>>70540647
Looks like a market open for disruption to me. But I am not the normal spic (Puerto Rican, and not the fake ones from the continent) given that I'm more deeply integrated into the Anglo-American and Japanese entertainment scene and culture than I am spic culture (cept the food). Sometimes what's needed is something completely different to get people watching you (what happened with Hololive in most of the west)

>>70526099
no, fuck off, que se chingen los gringos con sus lloriqueos woke y los japos con sus empresas negras.

It's hilarious seeing latinx shit on their own race for /vt/ browny points what do you guys accomplish for being ashamed and embarassed about your own language. You fags will never be white or japs.

>>70541714
hololive es mas blanco que tu, anon

>>70526099
Soon probably, everything else is pure cope from self hating niggas and fatmericans just like back in the day with /jp/

Hololive future yab. Headlines reads "VTUBER DE HOLO-EN-VIVO EXECUTADA Y VIOLADA POR CARTEL RIVAL EN VIVO DURANTE SU TRABAJO"
"Estamos tristes y confundido como esto pudo padar asi"
"No entiendo lo que paso todavia estoy en shock"
"Es la culpa de el mencho el cabron me puede pelar la verga"

>>70542443
>>70542444
anon, those are yankees, nobody with some self-respect and actual education wants to be barbarians or 2nd class asians kek.

>>70526099
I'd like to see HoloFR for Quebecians.

>>70526516
>latino culture
The fuck does that even mean?

>>70526810
This.

>>70533616
They won't make a drama video on agencies that don't have drama to begin with, as long as IdolES doesn't implode and theres 3 titty monsters they won't be able to complain or virtue signal.

>>70533727
That tweet had 0 engagement, I remember when someone posted it so its just your usual twitter retard screaming at the void
>Loli bad
One of the most popular ES chuubas is Nisha and she's as loli as you can get

>>70526810
This is the real reason.

something that people do not really talk about here is that the amount of cliques that there are in the ES streamer space is crazy and it would make most rrats of nijisanjien look tame.
also, I would like to know the legal pain that would be making names copyrightable in all countries.

>>70545301
What do you mean making the names copyrightable in all countries? You don't need to copyright your IP in every country that makes no sense.

>>70544038
>The fuck does that even mean?
we're all different flavors of mexican

>>70526099
Nunca, cierra el pico perra y que esto nunca se vuelva a hablar

>>70546358
imagine you have your copyright in country X but then you have a con or some event in country Y and you plan to sell stuff there with said copyright, but someone decides to create that same copyright in that country Y and sees that you are going to said event and sees that there is that copyrighted material there without their consent. they can perfectly sue you because it violates the copyright law of country Y.
would it happen? unlikely, but things like this have happened before.

>>70533616
>Latin America HATES lolis
fake, you just got brainwashed by Tiwtter propaganda

>>70533727
>https://twitter.com/Periquitosad/status/1758208023095382265
>402 views
>0 likes
>2 replies (both shitting on his take)

>>70547167
Don't mix me with indios please. Thanks.

>>70548205
So this retard spamming how the ES community hates Loli for the past 5 months has been full of shit the entire time? Who would've thought

>>70548164
Copyright law doesn't work like that, there's international copyright law. You only need to copyright in a single country.

>>70529695
Not as insanely high as in South America, but we do have our weeb contention conventions that fill to the gills all over Spain.

>M-muh drama
Dramaniggers are irrelevant as long as you don't fall in their games
For example Wactor which was one of the biggest corpos there ever was in the ES market, never had any big drama (maybe 1 or 2 barely relevant) until its started with its black copmany shit of course
As long as management instruct the girls correctly then drama should not have any kind of impact which is the case with Hololive

>>70548945
LATAM is a void zone for copyright law. It's how you get restaurants with anime or Disney characters on their front doors. In any anglo or European country, that stuff would get shut down and sued to oblivion; but in LATAM it's impossible to control.

>>70540647
>>70538741
these two

chuuba content in Latin America is just normie trend-chasing streams that have a "chinese monkey" for an avatar. It's all the most plebeian form of streaming there already is, but since the entertainment world in LATAM is so small outside football or anime, you get basically people reacting to each other's reactions and doing the same shallow zatsudans over and over.

>>70540647
>Lyra
>Prostitute
Tell me more, does she do lewd content now? I have always wanted to fuck her ass

>>70526099
I doubt they ever will.
Now PhaseES or maybe VShojoES? THAT I could see. It'll probably be a western-based corpo if it ever happens.

Especially Phase since they already have so many orbiting Spanish-speaking chuubas.

>>70542443
>for /vt/ browny points
>race
negro, menospreciar al prójimo es un deporte "nacional" (que todos los países practican) aquí
>latinx
que te de por el culo un cojeburras

>>70543314
this isn't about who are "whittier" but who are less nigger

>>70526099
No cuz the only decent market for it also speaks ESL enough. They would do it only if South America would be profitable, and let’s be real…

>>70528565
>>70529719
https://youtu.be/dMwzAN8WBx0?si=_mnrI2-IIuJjlbvS

>>70555916
That was BEFORE mexican teams were banned from competing in La Liberadores
go back CHICANO

>>70526099
i now oppose that. it will be a disaster considering niji en. there will be filled with much more shitty twatter dramas and dumb homo/whore tumblr autists.

>>70558326
Niji's disaster is the result of completely retarded lack of management

>>70536865
The Hispanic market is a large market where the potential buyers have a rather low disposable income. So the typical Japanese anime industry where a huge part of the money is made through merch is not the best way to turn a profit in the Hispanic market. It WILL work, because otakus here already buy Japanese merch even through the shipping costs a lot of times being even higher than those of, say, the US, but it's not the best way to reach the true potential of the market.
What actually would work best in the Hispanic world is having high CCV, being able to take sponsorships, and big yearly events like sololives, particularly in large cities like Mexico and Buenos Aires.
Merch can be sold but it should be on the cheaper side, and actually one of the qualities of Hispanoamerica I find interesting is that compared to other countries it's very easy to see people on the streets wearing anime tshirts or pins, it's not really something we hide since anime is much more socially accepted. I've seen grown 40-something working class men wearing Demon Slayer or Attack on Titan shirts like it was no big deal, for example.
If you can get people to wear shirts with interesting Holo designs you could get a lot of attention, as every fan is a potential walking billboard.

>>70561348
Basically, the ideal Hispanic chuuba would look a lot like Kobo.
Also you can paste anime into anything and otakus will eat it up even if it's more expensive and worse quality.

Hakka is cool

>>70545115
>popular
no regular frequency of streams
next

On one hand it would be good for quarantining. On the other we saw how CN tuned out and how zhangs used threats against that branch's safety to curtail the entire company's speech. Hopefully never.

>>70562414
Why are you comparing a potential ES to CN?

>>70562352

>>70533616
que coño te has fumado

>>70562352
Hipanics don't hate lolis, stop being retarded

>>70536841
based Aisu enjoyer

>>70562807
>>70562657
He's right. Name two lolis who are popular currently. Nisha doesn't count since she's the one you're going to name, Crayon doesn't count either since she's not a loli or has ever expressed interest in being one.

>>70526099
We already have enough Mexicans stealing jobs in every other industry we don't need it to spread to vtubing

>>70566517
>I-it doesn't count!
kys periquito we love cunny here

>>70529719
Yeah, best mexican team performance in that cup. The other two second places who got to a lib final got low diffed hard so nobody cares about them.

>>70568392
So, that periquito, here with us?

me quiero coger, y corregir fuertemente a esa mocosa bribona maldita, cuyo nombre es Shion Alguien sabe donde esta?

>>70566517
Sylvie Ruru?

>>70568899
yeah here >>70533616 >>70533727

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLTcSKyu2sY

>>70569113
here *SLAP*
but her ass belongs to me. Do you mind if I fuck her in front of you, asshole?

dios mio los spics si que se odian entre ellos mismos. que bien que onions bilingüe y ahora vivo en america y no tengo que preocuparme de problemas efímeros. Aprendan ingles fellas.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
>>70570580
Hot. The only holocunny that i respect.

>>70551729
No response, incredible.

>ES market is poor
You guys forget that the US alone has like 50 million people that speak Spanish. There's also the weird thing about Mexico where their northern parts have a much, much higher GDP per capita than the rest of the country which anons don't really notice because GDP is normally presented on a national scale, so there's at least a potential market of like 75 million where they can push merchandise into. While they're poor, wealth inequality makes it plausible that there's some potential due to the sheer numbers. And then there's >>70561348 and >>70561833's point of sponsorship and live events, which is where the actual money is in media broadcasting. Of course, all of this assumes that Hololive somehow enters the markets and strikes gold, thus becoming superstar popular (not an easy thing to do, but a thing worth striving to achieve).

The only problem is risk management. They will need really, really good corporate management and talent tard-wranglers if they don't want something really nasty to happen like the retarded shit from WACTOR and NijiEN.

>>70569194
>90 ccv
>Nisha killer
top kek
also
leeching in a holoes thread??? no way

>>70526880
Might as well expand HoloID to HoloSEA instead. SEA is full of weebs with expandable cash.

>>70572391
>lolihater is the sylvie schizo
Color me surprised.

>>70572137
Yeah, it's a quantity focused environment

>>70526516
Latinos are second to the Japanese in weeb and otaku culture. The only thing that is in it's way is that they're all third worlders who can't even afford a ham and cheese sandwich so trying to get them to pay supas and merch is like trying to draw blood out of a stone.

>>70552031
There is not enough managers with doctorates in psychology that could ever tardwrangle the menheras in a hypothetical PhaseES. Remember menhera Latinas are a demonstrably brutal kind of menheras, like Rushia times a hundred, so trying to tardwrangle them would require Jesus to return from heaven to placate them. The closest you'll ever have is Lia (LMAO) and she's Latina in name only.

>>70526099
2025 summer

>>70526099
ES streaming landscape is basically a clique of big streamers that hate each other but collab to make noombers and get sponsorships. Any 3view/low 4view that wants to improve their CCV will resort to leeching streamers bigger than them. It's also full of drama, for example the Streamer Awards equivalent was cancelled by angry latinos because their favorite streamers weren't nominated or "represented" and the viewership dropped from 1,8M to 400k.
What about Vtuber culture? Biggest vtubers were a scamming e-whore addicted to drama and a >male with an ugandan knuckles model that has the same relationship towards vtubing as someone like cookieswirl
smaller chuubas are former black company members that resort to e-celeb cocksucking and even show their irl-selves
pretty fucking grim if you ask me

>>70527709
Eeeee, brazil don't talk spanish as far as I know, they speak in portuguese.

>>70540647
Did Cover copy NijiID, NijiEN, or indies?
Let them do their idol thing and people will come. May not be the same crowd, but it will be a long lasting crowd.
Though I think it would be more financial beneficial for KR or TW. They already have the merch buying culture.

>>70534681
>aunque la piraña es una spammer de /aquí/
Y las pruebas?

>>70581754
The only ones I know are Dross, el rubius and german
I don't know if they are still active but they were huge back in the day
But looking back, gosh they were annoying

Good look trying to find wholesome latines willing to LARP as anime girls kek
That only happens in japans and sometimes in north america
Most streamers here are similar to your basic rwitch thots but ten times worsr
Here it's all about the drama, lefty/pol/ bullshit and being a proud whore

>>70582763
There are good girls with 3view and 2view status.
All 4views and up are whores tho.

>>70535346
Loco, los brasileros solos ya aportan BASTANTE a la rama Inglesa y a la japonesa,
japon y brasil tienen esta relacion rara devido a que refujiados de japon fueron a brasil y viseversa despues de la guerra.
Sam Yetstream es literlamente basado en esto.
Yo diria que el probelam parece en la dispersion, los latinos son muy dispersos y se manejan sueltos, de un fandom a otro,asi que agrrar suficiente atencion general es dificil, y darle al nich medio que mas todavia ya que no te cubre costos para empresas euro or americana
ahora si, si tenes una categoria latina con base en latinoamerica la podes hacer funcionar con cambio suelto
por lo menos mientras el dolar siga reinando, donde la sigan cagando pasamos al Rubro, Real y Yuan
Si es que no nos hacen Condor 2.0 primero :/

>>70551414
the thig is Laam had wide acces to the internet more around 2000 and up, so most people try to catch up, and some did SUPER fast 2010 and up, so most Latam culture si around 2012 for gringos (which was the best part really)
but also because of "catching up" mongrels treat meri coock like fucking saints guiding a new world when you can see what twitter and instagram have become.

>>70534681
fk off manzanita

>>70582763
>Rushia

>>70526099
hope soon

>>70526330
so 2080???

>>70562653
Quite a relevant pic for this thread.

>>70583109
anon, most otakus got internet access since the 90s, mostly at school and internet cafes because that was the only way to watch good animes, there was a dark age thanks to the efforts of religious organizations to ban anything anime related from the mid 90s to early 2k which pushed a lot more otakus towards the internet, but overall early internet were mostly for nerds, normies are the ones that ended up joining very late.

>>70526296
We can only pray. Imagine having to listen to some obese Mamacita trying her hardest to sound like a young woman despite her rolls of fat flapping when she attempts to dance for the mocap in a concert. Horrific.

It would work only if they hire profesional VAs that work in Spanish dubs and such.

>>70536253
HoloES would need to be based in the USA and primarily appeal to Hispanic Gringos.

>>70532226
You first. Try not to get skinned by the cartel for farting the wrong way in public.

>>70542443
It's not the language or culture. It's the people.

>>70551127
These are two different problems. In anime conventions what we are talking about is more akin to doujin artists, more artisanal than anything.
Then you have mass produced things like cheap bootleg clothing imported from China. How you approach these two should be different.

>>70590608
That'd be retarded

>>70528533
never use latinx again. trooner

>>70561982
Nobody cares about kakka

>>70526099
In an investor call a while back they said they looked into the Spanish market and concluded it wouldn't make enough money to sustain itself to their usual standards. So, never?

>>70590246
Ever thought about writing a architect fanfic ?

>>70528392
This reply is a big enough reason as to why holoES should never exist

>>70526099
Never. Cover would be asking to have the same type of shit NijiEN is getting wrecked for today
>picrel is the most common denominator for what the average latin woman finds normal to do for the sake of success

>>70593647
You say it as if EN streaming didn't have that shit lmao

>>70593837
For you these are outliers. Girls like Nimu are our fucking culture. Rushia's demasdre was a wednesday in the morning for us

>>70594006
They are not, why are you self hating faggots like this? The EN space has the whole Twitter dramafag shit baked into it, HoloEN being the exception not the rule.

>>70594149
Ok anon, then how about this. Your dramafags are confined to only digital spaces and the people who do it outside are frowned by the rest of your society, isn't that right?

Here, it's part of our actual social culture to grief, not confined to a digital niche. Doesn't matter the reason, it's even part of the family values, and the people who fight against it? they are the ones who the rest frown upon. If you try be an upstanding person, you are a pendejo who doesn't know better.

Why the fuck you think, the first thing most intelligent people born here do once they have the economical means, is trying to escape the fuck out of this hellhole?

For the actual point you were trying to uphold, the culture clash is too much. Unless Cover tardwrangles HARD whoever ends up here, or downright aims for people like Hakka who knows how shit goes, Cover is gonna have a Riro Ron before six months go by.
Heed my words, after all I thrived here.

>>70526726
Because Indonesia is fucking poor as fuck.
Thus if you want to increase your profits, it is better to appeal to the EN community.

>>70526915
Brasil isn't ES.

>>70594834
Take your head out if your ass, retards know nothing about Anglo culture and since you see it from afar you think it's greener pastures. Clout chasing, cancel culture, dramafagging, lefy/pol/, all are really present in the English-speaking space, spics are only copying tactics already employed here.
You are the kind of self hating cuck who idealizes moving to the States but hardly knows anything about the country other than Hollywood propaganda.

>>70595290
>since you see it from afar you think it's greener pastures
why the fuck you think I'm still here even though I have the means now? It's easier if you know how to game.
>>spics are only copying tactics already employed here
thanks for confirming my take, I never negated yours btw.
>>You are the kind of self hating cuck who idealizes moving to the States but hardly knows anything about the country other than Hollywood propaganda
Not that I care, though if you guys get your Trumpetas on office again, then you will taste your latinomerica at home and maybe become a better society through Idiocracy since you are still have time to turn back.

>>70595581
>thanks for confirming my take, I never negated yours btw.
Under that assumption HoloEN should also not be possible then, since the dramafagging is more developed.
Cover has a good filtering process and management, even mishires like Vesper end up being handled in a serious manner so that drama doesn't get out of control.
HoloES wouldn't be NijiEN because Cover is a competent company which can keep their talents in line.

>>70529288
But how much money do they spend?

>>70595911
Yeah... that's what I already wrote at the end here >>70594834 just more explained and with less grammatical errors

>>70526296
fpbp

t. spic. The latin weeb community is fucking insufferable.

>HoloEs
Les presento esta gema
>Least Horny marine fan

>>70596153
I'm on the fuck holoES train, but I see this pasta at least twice per week on three different languages, this shit is tame compared to what some jpanons write on main

>>70596153
El PeruANO

>>70596266
It is more cringy because it is on my native language

Also good on you anon for not biting, these dumb mistakes always work in the latino sphere

>>70596695
what

>>70590873
why?

>>70594841
This. If HoloES become a thing, they better know english if they don't want to starve.

>>70597525
Because it would be redundant with EN already existing and it would miss the potential of an untapped market completely.

>>70526516
Welp anglos aren't adapted as well just look at hololive lmao.

>>70598718
Wouldn't Hispanic US citizens be interested in someone of their own ethnicity?

wew

>>70551414
So it's filian?

>>70526516
Retaarded american

>>70535346
>the majority of Latin countries live in socialism

>>70561348
Hell, I saw an old man wearing an ahegao hoodie once. Most likely it was donated to him because he looked destitute, but it counts, I guess.

Being an open weeb is fucking cringe in latam, where the do you live?

>>70600127
They don't mind looking at someone south of the border for that, despite how they immediately turn coat on their stances on immigration once they are across, interestingly.

>>70526296
fpbp
LatAm is SEA-tier schizo central

>>70600127
One of the major reasons why foreigners often fail to enter the Hispanic market is that they think we are chicanos and we like to be pandered with brown characters mixing spanish words into english sentences for no reason. That makes no sense to us, we don't understand "representation" and "ethnicity" the same way Yanks do.
Hispanic otaku like anime and Japanese culture, why would you want to be pandered "ethnically"? Just give us the same classic Japanese anime girl tropes.

>>70602643
Buenos Aires, I have never seen anyone ashamed of being otaku. Guys at uni talk openly about anime and I often see anime tshirts, pins and keychains in the bus.

>>70603742
We may not understand representation the same way the gringos do, but we do understand representation. I'm sure a lot of the potential mexican audience can appreciate a "chinga tu madre" from their favorite chuuba every now and then as much as argentinians with "boludo" or chileans with "wea", "conchetumare", or that dialect of theirs they swear is actually them not having an aneurysm.

>>70604276
eh, maybe. But that would come organically from just having chuuba from there. There's no need to have it as the main goal. The main goal should be getting cute girls who can be entertaining streamers and understand otaku culture.

Numi is a thing, newfags.

>>70602643
Mexico. When I was a kid this was the sentiment except for DBZ y los Caballeros del Zodiaco. Then the same as games, it slowly found it's way into the normiesphere where now it's tolerated.
Hell the other day I saw a couple of children asking their mom for bootleg coloring books of Attack on Titan and My Hero Academia. Times change anon
>>70526516
fucking larper, here we even have a popular saying that goes "Si ya hay pelito, no hay delito" (If it's bushy then it's fair game)

>>70605077
Nimu* , my bad.

>>70536996
Hola cerebrito .
Para empezar se puede proponer a los bailarines de taller que hay en cada barrio de latam que abundan , esas que bailan pop urbano o kpop . El equipo para el 3D se comienza de abajo porque tener un equipo al estilo hololive o mejor aun como los conciertos de Princes connect en 3D que son un manjar visual en Youtube no se logra de un salto , minimo un mocopi o un Kinect de xbox de esas viejitas o una webcam

ES chuubas are a pipedream simply because there's no good place to pull them from.
>Spics
THE most menhera, you're going to be digging through hundreds of rushias before you find one that won't tank the branch because she woke up and decided to be a woman
>Argentinian
Fucking nimu is from there, insufferably smug and will absolutely pull a fucking elira/enna unless they are tardwrangled obsessively
>Chile
Uncomprehensive
>Peruvian
lmao
>Rest of latam
Good job finding someone with a stable enough connection to actually stream and able to last a year before a third world moment happens and they get kidnapped/raped/killed
>Fuck it, spain
Massive can of worms, spain is leftie loony land so you have a 50% chance of pulling a twitter warrior that would make even tumblr cringe, not to mention they are some of the biggest dramafags of the sphere too, the second anyone smells blood in the water you'll get raided worse than nijiEN currently is.

>>70605077
"Thing"
Cosa , objeto ?

>>70605805
can also mean "chingadera que existe"

>>70605763
Dance Workshop in Peru abound. I see money there

>>70605778
And yet, Costa Rica still on TOP RAAAAAAAAAAAA

(The real problem would be finding someone, in general,vtubers don't exist here)

>>70596011
You can make tons of money from ads and views alone due to their sheer number.
As anon said, a lot of the biggest streamers speak Spanish and they make tons of money despite their audience barely giving them any.

>>70587797
they doing pretty good now, the left died in that country

>>70529631
NTA
>¿Por que son tan chupapija de los yanquis?
Los yanquis son unas mierdas también pero al menos les dan dinero.
>wa wa mi cultura es una mierda wa wa
Sí.
>Da vergüenza ajena
Y esto es prueba. La mentalidad de que la vergüenza es un valor o una base para lo ético es ridículo, parte de una cultura detestable. ¿Qué importa lo que alguien intelectual, ética, y materialmente inferior piense? ¿Qué importa que tal persona sienta "vergüenza"? Apuesto a que nunca lo has cuestionado, y por eso tú y tu cultura son una mierda.

>>70526717
which side is cultural appropriating the other one?

>>70529431
Esto.

Latinas are like Rushia, even the quiet ones at their core, it's a stereotype for a reason.

>>70529932
Consider the following:
>$500 x 100
>$1 x 100000000000000
Which would you choose if you could?

>>70607007

>>70607106
Cover will need managers to beat them up when they step out of line. It's the only way to keep latinas under control.

Podrian poner la sede en argentina, como hay universidades gratis viene gente joven de todo el continente para estudiar, chilenas, peruanas, bolivianas y asi

>>70526099
There is no money in ES. People unironically only buy bootleg merch and pirate concerts

>>70607450
oh noes dios mios la vargunza! (you)

unfortunately, Nimu is a thing

>>70538741
>low fucking income
do we know where she is?, because if she is actually at japan most of latam exchange and overall salary is actually better than them, most of jps work for the minimum wage.

>>70607763
Based.

>>70607691
Lo único bueno de Argentina son las morras como Reimu.

>>70605778
Nimu is Argentinian? Sorry Reimu I found my new wife.

>>70542443
> "Latinx"
Te atragantás en mi pija pedazo de puta

>>70596153
Based, Marine needs to tone down the sexy level down a notch.

If any corp decides to hire ES people, they should start with venezuelan girls, they're more likely to work for it and should have more reasons to keep the job profitable by being active. They might also be more humble than others because of their experience of living through the many crises this country has gone through. I might be projecting but that's how I see it.

>>70542443
Poverty does things to people. Would you like to see a HoloGen full of rabid US niggers? I bet not.

>>70608046
anon no

>>70607857
Nicaragua
It's not even a dox, she purpousely posted a picture with her nationality flag on her twitter

>>70537396
Esto.

>>70608888
Stop giving Fishamn ideas

>>70609334
kek

>>70526717
quedate con quien te vea como Rei mira a ese taco

>>70526717
I fucking hate Shinji, pathetic fag

>>70596153
Ese hombre es mi animal espíritu.

>>70607940
Reimu es colombiana.

>>70608339
You're wrong and this is bullshit.
T. Venezuelan.

>>70596153
>average latinx fan

>page9
If Cover must, at least make it 3-person generation like Indonesia so when you inevitably kill the branch like CN, the loses stay negligible

>>70610386
I mean sure, women will be women, and it's debatable whether it's likely if someone that would think of going into streaming can be "humble". But just from thinking about the girls I know, they seem down to earth and chill to hang out with.

>>70526099
We don't need holoes, we already have Nimu, Meica, Hana, Rakkun, emikukis, Zilverk, which are much better.

>>70611709
What if they apply to HoloEN?

>>70611450
>kill the branch like CN
What would be the Coco incident of SA?

>>70611709
>Nimu
neck yourself faggot

>>70611709
>Zilverk
get the rope troon

NEW BREAD
>>70612441
>>70612441
>>70612441

>>70611709
>emikukis
>vtuber
kys

Nombrenme 10 pinches vtubers latinos que no sean react vtubers, lleven al menos 3 años haciendo streams y que tampoco sean lewdtubers. Pueden ser mujeres y hombres, yo aqui espero.

>>70612460
kys

>>70612684
Nisha

>>70612981
she no longer stream
>kek

>>70611530
You haven't been around them for extended periods of time, have you?