/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

someone will say males, another will blame niji and someone will say something about children.

>>70419121
holoindog is in a decline and lost alot of grounds based on data from 2023 hololive, even the star homos mogged holoindogs in superchats amount last year. holoid management seriously need to hire a vtuber who is friendly with gachikoi/unicorn fanbase for 4th gen (iofi alone is not enough, kobo gets so little superchat amount despite having 2.2+mil subs), zea cornelia from ex niji id would fit this role well.

>>70421086
retard

>>70419121
now compare it to anyone from the "golden 20 dogshit"

>>70419121
indonesian debuff

>>70421143
indog girls can do good gfe, imagine the superchat amount from hearing "hallo sayang", but all we get now is gws gws gws, male collabing with superior homo stars and gsh. how can you gain lost grounds with continuing the current downward trend.

>>70421086
Kaela is doing pretty good, she's often pulling HoloEN numbers

>>70421994
Because she’s usually with an EN

>>70419121
Collabed with wrong males. IDfags were hoping that she'd be collabing with their (ID) flesh e-celebs, but then she spammed collabs with StarsEN instead.

>>70419121
>Mogged all of nijien organs

>>70419121
You can clearly see it right there. I guess even the IDs got tired of being cucks. Good for them.

>>70419121
The ace is Kaela who gets similar numbers despite without the cunny buff and local ID subs

Literally second coming of ollie. I remember ollie was the fucking shit back then when she debuted. And proceed to fuck up everything possible.

>>70422157
Enna who is known to be anti gfe on vt and has lower subs base mogged the entire holoid in superchat amount, explain how that happened.

>>70419121
Where is ID4
It's been a year already

i just cant stomach watching Kobo
theres just something about her that pisses me off and its not the rape correction kind

>>70422445
She didn't, though? Going by Playboard, Kaela mogged her in SC last year. Enna is ahead in total amount, but that was because she debuted more than 5 months before Kaela did.

>>70419121
ID happened

>>70422341
Kaela has the cute buff

>>70422873 (Me)
>Enna is ahead in total amount, but that was because she debuted more than 5 months before Kaela did.
Actually, scratch that, I made a mistake. Kaela is almost $100K ahead of Enna in lifetime SC too.

>>70423039
kaela is doing very well with the grindy streams, props to her but holoid can do much better. 4th gen must have a gfe friendly chuuba that appeals to rich idfag males. (id nation actually has lots of rich male indogs, but they got turned off by the homo star collabs and gws pilling)

So is Kaela really not supposed to be a penguin? I always thought she was but I never actually looked into it.

>>70419121
a ton of worthless projects < following fanbase demand

And no, her "green" fanbase never demanded homo and random indog collabs; this is simply coming from indog TikTok cancers that don't watch streams.
Her most-demanded streams are solo karaoke streams, which she somehow avoided doing for months.

>>70422468
They're going to release HoloStars ID first and the talents will be chosen by Ollie and Kobo.

>>70419121
i thought that was Kaela?

she's actually funny in collabs. boring EN collabs can change drastically by just dragging her in between. I don't care about her solo content except for Karaoke.

Kobo has no appeal outside of her music and screaming in broken English. If she's in a collab I might as well watch any POV that isn't hers. Her design is also hilariously bad.

>>70424258
She's not at all, she doesn't like that comparison either. People made the jokes because of her colors and name, and of course those that don't watch her but are "part of" the fanbase still propagate that meme.

>>70424258
She actually hates to comparison

>>70419121
Cunny wont erase the stink of male collabs

>>70419121
panders to the wrong demographic (indog normalfags and chinktok crowds)
for now, the only appeal she has is by being the ultimate pedobait.

>>70419121
got replaced by Kaela on the number one spot

>>70425039
>>70424953
OK good to know. I wasn't sure if it was a joke or not. Shame when things like that catch on, like FWMC with the "Fuwawa's not real" joke that made them sad.

Unironically too indog.

>>70421086
Iofi is not a unicorn-friendly vtuber

>>70422117
This. Get the traditional streamers in there instead of Holostars if you want to stream with dudes.

>>70424368
I'm actually willing to bet that if she did that offcollab poll in her membership stream the percentage of people who approved it would have been higher than the one that was done in a public stream

Indonesian viewers are disloyal and useless

>>70426670
Most of the old members are gone to begin with. The majority of her greens are now gifted.

>>70421086
nobody cares about the opinion of a nijinigger

>>70426548
i know she collabs with homos so unicorn pandering is a no go, but she is the most gfe (not lamy type obviously) in the current indog branch. the non male collabers holo id members are anti gfe, see how anya interacts with her chat and compare her with iofi.

>>70422117
This. She turned into Ollie lite. Also, too zoomer for my taste

>>70427253
I voted yes

>>70427486
a certain pink haired baby is thriving right now at holojp, guess where she was before ?

>>70428410
I voted no
only female and unironic faggot can bear with blue homo faggy voice.

>>70428830
forget the pic kek

seeing Kobo get used up and spit out is a reminder that pandering to ID is ultimately worthless

>>70428976
it did more harm than good for both party, dont forget the crazed female fans of homo stars are like territorial hyenas.

>>70428864
Anon, you do realize that Kobo opened her membership on May 20th, right? No one can go higher than 11 days

>>70419121
pandering to normies doesn't have long lasting effects

>>70419121
Kaela mogged her, and strengthened her position by forming up with Biboo like Voltron.

>>70419121
Her content is very well suited to normalfag audience and that audience probably are already bored or found another thing to put their attention to. Even so, Kobo is apparently still popular enough to get sponsorships with big companies in Indonesia. So i say she's not in deep trouble for now.

>>70419121
Her gimmick is copying famous Indonesian youtuber and being loud. People simply got bored and move to new popular thing.

Homocollabing nijilovers who appeal to pedos lose all their numbers simple as.

>>70421086
>iofi
gtfo newfag or sister whatever. you clearly never watch streams. also how many browns itt holyfuck

>>70428708
Nijinigger thinks we want Zea in ID, fucking give us Miyu + Siska + Mika already for ID4.

>>70419121
don't care. she collabed with stars. ask sisters or homobeggars to sc her.

>>70430049
how much money did you donate to grifterbird today ?

>>70430243
spotted nijinipplenigger defending her mighty company.

>>70430270
if you break your contract's nda, you get fired. ask mel and rushia, hololive showed no mercy to rulebreakers too.

>>70430270
Ssshhh watch it move around. Its scared. They have lost so much they are lashing out against Indonesians looking for any prey they can still take down and its not working. Its gonna starve to death like this soon

>>70421086
$1 USD is worth way more to ID than to EN, retard. Pretty sure all the holoIDs live like kings as long as they have at least 1 western paying fan.

>>70429335
?
okay, that's weird. either you are incorrect or it's a bug on my end.

another nijiggers thread, you guys really are pathetic.

>>70419121
she wouldn't get off altare's dick and it filtered a ton of people. And her toddler fans prob moved on to Bluey or something.

>>70430822
guess you're a cover intern then

Why did kobocucks majority vote yes for her collabing with a homoEN? It was several offcollabs too.

>>70430772
not saying that the girls are poor in wealth (the views revenue keeps them afloat), im just pointing out that they are literally losing to homo stars en/jp in an area where female vtubers usually eat the males alive unless we are talking about kuzuha and vox. (vox has dropped down in supas, thanks to his retarded apology video turning off paypig sisters) these two are miles bigger than any male vtubers in homo stars so not surprising, while holo id destroys homos in subs.

Why so many indogs can't accept the fact their branch is a failure?

>>70431260
Retard, one person on an average EN wage donating half their paycheck to a homo is worth several times more than one person on an average ID wage donating half their paycheck to a holoID. Of course the total value in USD is going to be lower, because the currency of the fans is worth shit.

>>70419121
Indogs don't deserve her. I'd be happy to hand over my green card to get her to be my onahole.

>>70419121
Do they really only stream for 2 hours?

>>70431322
they still exist and are growing, anon. that means it's not a failure. if you compare ID to EN, it's essentially Indonesia vs the world. of course, their viewership is lower. also, ID4 soon.

>>70424421
>and the talents will be chosen by Ollie and Kobo
As it should be

>>70431875
he's talking about ex-NijiID

>>70431322
I'm afraid of getting disbanded, Hololive is literally the only chance to promote our country to the world

>>70428976
>numbers are good
>pandering to ID is good
>numbers drop off
>pandering to ID is bad
You people cannot hold more than two thoughts in your head at a time

>>70432825
>numbers are good
>pandering to ID is good
say no one except the indog tourists themselves.

>>70432825
pandering to ID is good. she just chose the worst demographic possible.

>>70433346
this.

>>70419121
Ragus luv luv

>>70430139
>Mika
My fucking sides, holofags really do love cuckoldry

>>70432825
Everyone said all along that her audience was full of children that wouldn't support her. She has sponsors to do that.

>>70419121
She's simply not that good. She's similar to Ollie in that they both got popular by being loud and obnoxious but at some point the act just becomes irritating and people move on.

I would like to grudgepost the SEAdogs who said that "her success would herald the start of the golden age of the ID V-tuner market, a market that will soon dwarf the EN market," but my fatass is too lazy to dwell on the archive.

>>70442598
those are probably overproud indog tourists from kikebook you can tell how defensive they are when you call them Indogs.

>>70421086
Jesas, you sound like such an out of touch head in a suit.

>>70430139
>Mika
Ew

>>70419121
The kid is just too lazy nowadays

>>70421086
We can't really know how many SC's they get, because if you watch their streams, you will notice that they get a lot of them trough Streamlabs.

Indonesia has a garbage internet infrastructure, many can't watch streams properly, so they go for VODs. If she lost part of her foreign audience, she is now where she was supposed to be with her own.