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Hololive and Amelia Watson scammed an artist:

Amelia Watson from Hololive reached out to me via DM in 2021 for a potential commission of a music video featuring her cover of the song "Purupuru Pururin." There were some communication issues between Watson, her manager, and me. Watson, through Twitter DM, was uncertain about her vision for the video, while her manager, on Discord, was unsure about the budget since we didn't have a clear understanding of Watson's requirements. Another challenge was the cultural difference between Hololive, a Japanese company, and myself. I had to adhere to Japanese copyright laws for this commission.

Despite these challenges, I remained optimistic about the project. However, the music video only made it to the concept stage, and the character sheet created for the project was rejected by Watson's manager and Hololive's legal department due to copyright issues. Japanese copyright laws prevented me from recreating the "Purupuru Pururin" animation without the original animators' permission. Watson and her manager had to discuss and redefine the commission, but after some back and forth, the project fell apart.

Months later, when I followed up with them, they abruptly ended communication without any formal termination of the commission, leaving me feeling ignored and disappointed. Initially, I felt terrible about the entire situation, as both Watson and Hololive seemed to have ghosted me. This experience deeply affected my mental state, leading me into a negative spiral. I developed resentment towards Hololive and most of the members in the English branch.

However, nowadays, I find myself in a better headspace. I no longer hold a grudge against Watson because I understand that her actions were likely driven by professional considerations. However, I cannot say the same about Hololive. I still hold a small grudge against the company for what I perceive as a lack of professionalism.

I am sharing this story to relieve myself of the burden it has been causing. Initially, I believed that staying professional and keeping silent for two years was the right approach. However, after much reflection, I asked myself, "Why should I maintain professionalism when the company did not show professionalism towards me?"

I refrained from discussing this matter because I signed a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) with the company. However, considering that it has been around two years and it is unlikely that Hololive will come across this post, I feel confident enough to share it now.

>> No.70432600

Original link: https://kemono.su/patreon/user/74396064/post/85915604

>> No.70432654

>>70432560
>>70432600
Big if true. A real deflection if not.

>> No.70432663

You need to google the definition of "scam" retard

>> No.70432784

>>70432560
If you didn't actually produce and deliver anything (because it was unsuitable for whatever reason), they don't owe you shit. Sorry dude.

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>>70432560
>I signed a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) with the company. However, considering that it has been around two years and it is unlikely that Hololive will come across this post, I feel confident enough to share it now.
Very smart artfag

>> No.70432811

>Ame attempted to commission an artist for a MV
>whole thing got caught up in perms hell
>thing ended up scrapped before it got anywhere off the ground
>artist got butthurt that cover proceeded to ghost them
There is literally no “scam” here, retard

>> No.70433002

>>70432560
>scam
this is like calling someone who looked at you badly a rapist. no pity points for you.

>no longer hold a grudge against Watson
yet you titled it "Amelia Watson scammed an artist". i sense a lot of animus still there. would have helped your case/narrative if you title it like "ghosted by ame/holo" (or similar).

>> No.70433064

>artist knew the project was a bust
>only produced one sketch
>deeply affected my mental state for years
>proceeds to make sure to never get hired again by breaking nda

>> No.70433073

>>70432560
>potential commission
>potential
So not a formal commission then. If you are going to break NDA then at least post something of substance. Actual evidence beyond a drawing. Some chat logs where she agrees to pay you for the work you have already done. A picture of your NDA. Something. I'm more than happy to jump on board with holding someone responsible if they actually scammed an artist. But I'm not going to take your side without evidence. Certainly not when the "other team" just got in trouble for actually scamming artists. The timing is simply too convenient for me to take your words at face value.

>> No.70433107

>>70432560
Do you think they only contact one artist? You got filtered.

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>Project falls through
>never actually produced anything
>claims it's a scam
>claims there's no grudge
>broke NDA.
Yeah good luck with this one buddy

>> No.70433158

>>70433002
That was posted 6 months ago and the og post said nothing about a scam op use that word

>> No.70433199

>>70432560
>Signed NDA
>Posts this 6 months ago and breaks NDA
>Hates Hololive
>Still creates Hololive art behind paywall to this day
What do you call this?

>> No.70433201

Just googled the artist. She draws nothing but porn and Nijisanji artwork. Not followed by anyone in Hololive. Not buying it. Sorry not sorry.

>> No.70433334

why are artists consistently such melodramatic faggots

>> No.70433446

>>70432560
Well OP are you not retarded?? You had a nice lead-up for a crumb of drama but you couldn't help yourself from acting like a faggot and misrepresenting the situation as a SCAM when the artist in question never said that.
This is why you retards are treated like clowns and never taken seriously, you could just have presented the facts as they are and gotten a bit of a reaction but you had to lie about something that's instantly refuted in your own post.

Congratulations you played yourself and all you got from it was just a shit bait that everyone will treat as deflection.

>> No.70433450

>>70433201
Porn? Is it good? Sauce?

>> No.70433451

>>70433334
They went for an art degree instead of a STEM career. It's an unavoidable bias.

>> No.70433501

>>70433450
It doesn't do it for me, but ymmv. https://twitter.com/yhsifeca

>> No.70433627

>>70432560
shut the fuck up kevin, nobody cares about you and you always be a shitter

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>>70433501
oh them.
...I'm a patron already...
I like their art style and they've been doing some pretty great consistent uploads.

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>>70432560
Search ame pururin cover on youtube. Non existent. They probably got blocked by copyright, a sad story, but this artist chose to disclose an NDA, it will be forever in his history as a violator… good luck getting corpos commissions

>> No.70434680

>>70432560
I don’t read him signing a contract anywhere. Does he expect to get paid for a concept art? He must be new to the art world.

>> No.70434788

>>70432600
100% deflection. Just read thr thread.
This is the same guy who made those hate posts before probably. He has noticed he’s a faggot so he evolved into a retard.
We should be sure everyone knows he would break NDAs to shill. Good luck getting a job loser.

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