/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Nice to see Doki thriving. I don't really look at numbers very often and I'm surprised that NijiEN is barely competing with HoloID. Is that normal or was it just a bad month because of the drama?

>>70418821
>Dokibird #1
Holykek I can't believe it. Dokibird wasn't Gura killer, she is
>HoloENcuck killer
>NijiENshitter killer
>indie leader

>>70418821
DOKI x MUMEI CHADS?
CUTE TWO LOVEBIRDS

>>70418821
the Stars have 4views among them?

>>70418821

>>70419420
honeymoon period, see if it continues for the rest of the year.

>>70418821
TOTAL DRAGOON VICTORY

>>70418821
Dookiebird is already sub 10k

>>70418821
Holy shit, so this is what happens when you abandon the Black Company debuff. Nice one Doki.

>>70418821
Gura didnt make it but she has 30k Average with her 3 streams

>>70418821
>February 2024 CCV (EN)
>only shows meme peaks
what did OP mean by this?

>>70419420
No wonder you aren't a numberfag, you're terrible at it. Obviously she's going to have massive gains coming out of such a big drama and getting tons of pity subs and views. If she can maintain that then great, if not then the people that decided to watch a few of her streams decided that was enough to save her.

>>70418821
>>70423568
here you go, averages and hours streamed and hours watched on the right
not much changes

>>70418821
Kek, imagine stifling your own talent of this calibre. Same with Pomu.
Mob of imbecilic rainbow jackasses

>>70423574
it's hilarious how smart numbertards think they are when they bite the same piece of bait 50 times in a row

>>70424672
>Is a retard
But aha! I meant to be a retard!!

>>70419410
It's been normal for a little over a year. They're missing their top most talents because they didn't stream enough in Feb to make the list, but they're still only in the 2-4k range.

>>70418821
I think the top 2 on this list should cement their friendship by having sweaty lesbian sex

>doki and moom on top
HOLY BASED

>>70418821
does bae buy subs or something? her channel has been growing faster than fauna's but she gets around half the ccv

>>70425804
JP audience.

What is neobaka? They seem to be doing really well

>>70425354
Wait really? Sayu's around there too a lot of the time. Are you telling me Sayu's at NijiEN levels now?

>>70423348
Of course she aint gonna stay there forever. That's not sustainable.
However, more than half of niji talents barely break the high 3view barrier. Even if half of doki's ccv gets culled in the next few months, she's still mid 4view, which is insanely good for an indie.

>>70426506
Sayu's Feb average was 1380, so she's solidly in the middle of NjiEN's pack.

>>70426623
Is this for youtube specifically? Because if not you should add about 1.5x that for twitch numbers...

>>70425804
Subcount doesn't always reflect viewership (both VOD views and CCV included)

>>70423348
11k today with a big charity event tomorrow. She's settling into Iron Mouse/Filian tier I think. Probably going to be the biggest indie in EN until a big holoEN graduates

>>70426674
That's just Twitch, I don't have her Youtube average on hand. If you want to estimate 1.5x then we're looking at 2070, 4th place if she were still in Nijisanji. If we compare this Feb number to Jan's averages, before the drama, she'd be 6th.

So yes, no matter how you slice it Sayu is pulling NijiEN numbers. Because NijiEN numbers are 400-3k when ignoring graduation outliers. Phase Connect is pulling NijiEN numbers, fucking Idol is moving into the NijiEN bracket. Getting into NijiEN's bracket stopped being particularly impressive a little over a year ago. Before that Niji's floor was 1k.

>>70426903
Ironmouse Shylily, and Filian generally sit at 6-8k, so if she settles at 10k+ she'll be the top non Holo with a wide berth.

>>70426903
None of holoEN can pull 5view without the dorito's brand power except Gura and maybe Mori, ironically the two least likely to ever leave.

>>70423568
Peaks are better to judge by. Average is messed up by due to some members doing long superchat readings and stuff like that.

>>70418821
Moomer and dokibirb

>>70419410
Been normal for a while now. Niji always had a smaller audience than Hololive, but with over 30 talents in the branch, they are just eating at each other's audience. Forget HoloID, quite a bunch of NijiEN are losing to Holostars in views.

>>70427015
I might've been underselling her. She's not even at peak hours right now.

>>70419125
Cute bird

>>70427333
Who made the one on the right? That is a cute style. Also like the ahoge heart, that is just adorable !

>>70418821
Nijikeks... dont look

>>70418821
My bird wife... the ironmouse of youtube....

>>70425354
>>70427642

Why is this marked as (you) when I haven't even said a thing on this thread yet

>>70424248
Cheers, I felt this was the better representation

>>70418821
Good for her, seething haters are like music to my ears

>>70427139
Mumei, Fauna, Fuwamoco, Ina, Irys and weirdly Ame could all do it now that they've built a fanbase. They'd have to stream a lot more though

>>70424248
>Mori and Bae streamed 115+ and 90+ hours
wtf is going on over there?

>>70426315
Brazilian chuuba company iirc

>>70429448
The power of becoming Japanese, hopefully IRyS can tap into it soon

Well shit, she is doing okay then. Seems like the whole scandal landed her in a better place.

>>70429674
For now.

Hopefully it can translate to:
1. other potential Rainbow Retirees being able to get even half of their performance on exit
2. Lasting sustainable performance for Doki

I am under no illusions that this could easily be once-in-a-generational forces at play.

>>70424628
As a pomudachi, it is a conflicting feeling. But it does highlight that she and Selen were cared for by the fans, and that the fans were not loyal to Ichikara over the livers.

>>70429726
NotPomu is pulling better numbers than NijiEN with guerilla Twitter spaces

>>70429726
Yeah I get where you are coming from anon, this was also a bunch of factors aligning to create a massive shitstorm, and her making out with some safety net on the other side. Can't assume it will be easily replicated.

>>70429798
Christ alive, can't wait to see notPomu debut soon. inb4 she ends up competing and possibly aping post-honeymoon Doki

>>70429860
At the very least I'm happy she even made it through this shitstorm, especially after not one but two attempts on her own life. Probably not as dramatic as jumping off a building and being saved by a tree, but still (and easily explainable if she does in fact have BPD and this shit storm pushed her psyche way off. I'm convinced BPD just ACCELERATEd the breaking process from a few years to some months.)

>>70418821
Not to be a Phasefsg (like saying it works) but doesn’t Phase have gens too? Why they are blank on the doc?

>>70429868
Quite frankly notPomu would likely end doing the same wave explosion. Her twitter following is still insane. The question is where and if at this point. Some people said even Holo but can’t see her getting into the last gen as tge Irys of the situation.

>>70418821
>>70424248
Damn... Idol really falls off, huh.

>>70418821
>NO NIJI IN TOP 15
>FUCKING SOME HOLOSTARS OUTPERFORMING ALMOST ALL OF NIJI

TOTAL NIJI DEATH

YAGOO, I FUCKING KNEEL.

>>70430006
the guy who made the charts only filled in gens for holo/niji

>>70429726
Mysta is sitting at 3-4k.
Nina is sitting at 3-6k.
Selen is sitting at 10k.
Zaion is at 1.5-2k.

So far the only ex-Niji talent that hasn't doubled their CCV since leaving is Kuro, and he's started fleshtubing.

>>70430620
(me)
Excuse me.

NO NIJI IN TOP 20

EVEN FUCKING KAELA/KOBO ARE HIGHER THAN HIGHEST NIJIEN

TOTAL NIJI DEATH

>>70430620
To top it off the 2 highest got stat padded
>Enna Birthday streams
>kyo graduation stream
Enjoy your 2% cunts

>>70418821
What about JP?

>>70430127
Please Yagoo. Put Pomu in Advent. She'd have SO much fun.

>>70430857
they're compiled later as there are more vtubers

>>70418821
Even Holostars are mogging Niji? HOLY GRIM

>>70418821
>Kiara losing to all of Advent with Shiori right behind her, at the very bottom of EN
Lmao

>>70419792
I ship it.

>>70427333
The right one was from doki's mama artist/rigger klaeia (?) From a couple years ago. Really hoping it gets rigged as an outfit

>>70418821
too bad that cunt has already lost 70% of her pity audience and dropping. Back to 3k where she belongs in another month.

>>70418821
>>70424248
Any Twitch stat to compare? I want to see how my daughter Henya does

>>70431476
twitchtracker.com
Henya got 5.5k avg CCV last month, she's holo tier.

>>70418821
Yikes. People really gave money to that drama bitch? Gladly it wont last though.

>>70418821
My girl Pippa being a beast. He'll yeah.

>>70418821
Crazy how the red used to dominate these. It is slowly just fading out.

>>70431378
sister, even if she drops to 3k, that's still around the top of nijien. You corpos top 2 got boosted by a birthday stream and a graduation stream this month. If you want to shit on her, try not to shit on your own talents

>>70418821
How grim for nijien if they dont raid?

>>70431829
Just curious, which column in OP's image do you think represents income? I'm trying to determine exactly how much I should laugh at you.

>>70418821
>Phasebeggars mogged by Holostars
There is a god

>>70432072
according to youtube analysis, doki had the highest super chat donation amount in february, coming out at about 80,000.
so she mogged everyone, even HoloJP

>retards actually believing Doki wont go back to relevancy soon
She will go back to her Niji numbers as soon as the drama ends. If not less, considering she is an indie now.

>>70418821
Huh. Who is Toshi?

>>70432225
Yeah. Although in fairness, I think it's also counting the Charity donations? She's still doing extremely well even if that is the case though.

>>70418821

>>70432267
I think her closest case was Pikamee/Henya’s. She peaked at ~30k but almost a year later she still sits around ~5k.

A lot of Nijis now losing to non-Pippa phase girls. Pippa beating all nijis

>>70432318
Come on Toshi!

>>70419792
Based friends.

>>70432329
It shouldn't be. Charity donations go to charity, not her. That'd be a big mistake if it did.

>>70434553
Yeah I'm just not sure if playboard is smart enough to figure that out. I could be totally wrong on that front.

>>70418821
how does your system account for the obvious botting?
How does this compare to public viewcounts of VoDs days afterward?

>>70418821
>Kobo
>4k
Holy fuck, she fell far. Really shouldn't have collabed with males.

>>70432542
They kept on shitting on Phase talent without even trying them out. To be fair its not easy. I've done reps for every talent of Holo, Niji, Phase, Idol, V4 and Kawaii and still want to give JP a fair go. Phase getting growth isn't surprising. My biggest surprise was how comfy some male streamers are in Niji since I assumed they'd milk their chat. Vox chat is cancer incarnate, there are definitely communities that are containment. I want to seggs Roca badly.

>>70424248
Right side is much more accurate:
>Mooms, Fauna, FWMC, Biboo, IRyS are top 5 after Doki
Also
>Phase company channel
kek

>>70427333
MOOMS X DOKI LOVE

>>70418821
>all nijiEN below pippa line
>a fucking homo is above 90% of nijiEN
We are inching closer to total nijinigger death!

>>70435569
Things will go back to normal once Elira and Vox come back.

>>70418821
>>70424248
Seems like Doki might settle at 5-6k after a while.
How did Uruka rise up so suddenly?Last time I checked, she averaged 600 and spent more time in vacations than streaming.

>>70437804
I'm honestly not sure either. She's been doing a lot of karaoke streams and she has debuted a few new models recently so maybe that had something to do with it.

>>70429220
You didn't give a fuck about her until the drama started. Fuck off tourist.

>>70418821
PIPPA?!

>>70438854
Yeah sister, you tell them. Gaslight. Gatekeep. Girlboss.

>>70419420
She's got the pity buff. Wait for a few weeks before you start numberfagging. If she's still got the same numbers then good for her.

>>70438854
I watched her debut back in Obsydia days kek
She was such a shit at playing Titanfall. Who's the tourist now? I bet you're a council baby

>>70418821
>total
>HOLO
>domination
love to see it

>>70418821
At least Flayon has some competition for worst performing EN Holostar now.

>>70439783
He's shitposting, not numberfagging, so waiting three weeks will have the opposite effect of what he wants.

>>70427015
I think you actually need to do the opposite to go from twitch to yt. twitch count everything, youtube have a bunch of filters to reduce the viewer count.

>>70435569
Bettel is a weirdly strong performer all things considered. I wouldn't be surprised if he overtook all of NijiEN's numbers.

>>70434602
Playboard does count charity donations as superchats although on stream it showed $47k USD as the total so I don't know where the discrepancy comes from. I also don't know how playboard would count Doki's since they were for a schedule/waiting room and not on an a stream that went live

>>70441494
Did he have special events in February? That's a pretty low total stream count, and those averages are significantly up on recent months.

>>70441681
He recently had some health issues (ending at the start of this month), and is trying to juggle dual streaming, so he wasn't streaming as often. He also debuted a new outfit this month, which was promoted by several other Tempus boys.
I'm more surprised to see Ruze so high in comparison to everyone else in StarsEN. I really thought Armis would flop and I mean that in a concerned way, not a unicorn way.

>>70424248
>Bijou mogging everyone in hours watched
She's objectively provided the most entertainment of anyone in that list.

>>70418821
bird supremacy

>>70443098
>bird on the left streamed 1/3 of the month
>bird on the right streamed 1/2 of the month
The only supremacy here is the supremacy of starved retards.

Doki will be far below in March already, not sure why you would gloat

>>70443207
Doubt it, people don't watch these girls out of any quality entertainment they provide. Dramafags will keep tuning in so they can jerk each other off in chat and social media and feel a part of something, that's how all e-celebs work.

>>70443368
She's already under 10% of what she had when she came back due to all the drama buffs.

>>70441460
Nah, he's saying she simulcasts. So Twitch is only part of her CCV.

>>70443207
Mainly to make fun of NijiEN.

Any ranking where Gura isn't #1 isn't valid.

>>70443710
Wonder why that is

>>70440397
I missed her debut out of the others in Obsydia. Pomu was my Nijioshi since I recognized her from her previous incarnation. However Selen eventually won me over with her infectious laughter and standout personality in a sea of idol wannabes and coombaiters. It was funny being assuaged early on by early nijifan statements that Nijisanji doesn't expect you to watch all the livers, just a select few. Turns out this was the same rationalization Nijimgmt used in favouritism a select few livers. Ironically the ones they didn't favour were the only ones I was drawn to. Funny how that works.

>jelly is ahead of Lia
It's over for her old timeslot.

>>70443077
>>70433143
interesting.

>>70445192
Yes, watch the stream. That's why they stream. So you watch. You've made some kind of point, but it's not a very smart one nor the gotcha you thought it would be.

>>70444261
I am still fuming how much Niji ignored the golden 6 in favor or lux

>>70445287
sure it is, my sweet little pebble. Lol

>>70437804
New outfit.

>>70445313
it's not like the luxiem favoritism got them that much, they still don't have 3D and are behind in outfits, most of what they got is more merch they barely make money from.

anya strong!

>>70445379
>nyehehehehe, your oshi streams a lot, huh..? and she tells you to watch the shit she streams, huh..? lol, you fucking loser
This is the whole of your point. You're expecting her to leave the logistics of her channel's growth to happenstance as if this is the only valid way to grow her channel. You're retarded and I'm only giving you the attention you seek for the selfish satisfaction of typing down why I think you're retarded.

>>70418821
Total nijien death

>>70418821
Pippa > nijien

>>70418821
PC is doing surprisingly well

>>70441900
Ruze is a runaway darling, a lot of people love him and he fills one of the niches Vesper left, being an actual autist nerd for western nerd stuff. Jurard is also a good hire, he's very dedicated to his kayfabe and quite a talented voice actor, people just get filtered by his volume levels because of that kayfabe dedication (loud dino must be loud). Octavio I think just isn't practiced yet at making his stream content interesting so his numbers suffer, but performance and idol-wise he's a strong choice, I think he just needs more musical content and exposure.

The only real "flop" is Goldbullet, he's not bringing anything really stand-out or special to the table yet...but even he's making almost as much as both Vivi and Kunai combined in superchats, so lmao. At least he's more secure than like 70% of NijiEN at this point.

>>70435569
Holy Based

>>70418821
>>70424248
Runie's doing well so far, i'm proud of her

>>70431248
>lone kiara seethe post in a 100+ post numberfag thread
what happened to this place

>>70435569
BASED

>Aster below all homos
>Aia below Aster
Why? How? Just be cute?

>>70418821
Doki better make good use of those numbers while they last. Wonder how many will stick around after the drama dies down

Nijiniggers BTFO'd

>>70432318
Some Brazilian youtuber, he actually the bigger one here.

>>70432318
>>70458649
The same goes to others from Neobaka like Dante, Eeiris

>>70456771
Sister, every dragoon went to her. She even converts just 10% of the drama tourists into regulars, every single Niji still gets BTFO'd on current numbers.

>>70456771
My brother in christ it's been 2 weeks since the black box stream, The drama only exists /here/ and on dramafag channels, The last time doki acknowledged anything was on feb 16th, If anyone is getting drama number boosts rn it's sayu with the "i could have sued and won" stuff going around

>>70418821
Based Finana in the top 75. IN YOUR FACE HATERS!

>>70459140
Not gonna lie, I lol'd

>>70458954
If the numbers for this thread account for the full month of February, then they're accounting for her drama boost. I don't care about the drama itself, just wondering how much the number will change going forward.

>>70418821
This kinda just highlights that good vtubers do exist outside of Hololive and in fact many are being held back by the vtubing community being full of tourists and casuals. The moment Holo tribalfags were forced to watch a ex-Niji they realized "hey this girl is actually pretty good?" and stuck around. Does that indicate that Holo is actually a net negative for vtubing as a whole, because of how insular their community is influencing the growth of the industry? Maybe.

Thoughts?

>>70460988
Agreed. Its no secret that a lot of the holo girls don't deserve to be where they are, especially on the EN branch.

>>70424248
>Kyo graduated and still couldn't make Top 10.

>>70456771
>>70460683
This is for full Feb without any modifiers. Doki's been rocking 1k with spikes to 15k all week, so it's likely there'll be a few k more drop off, but not much more than that. One factor in this is that Selen/Doki was one of the 4 streamers in Nijisanji EN that probably could have made it on their own without Nijisanji, so she's converting more of the drama buff than others would.

>>70429868
>>70430127
Pomu setting up a Blu Sky account for Mint means she is thinking about it. She could easily hit the same numbers as Doki but I don't if she has the same skills/ambition to handle everything on her own.

>>70461807 (me)
woops,
She's been rocking 11k*

>>70461841
Given the same opportunity sure, but she won't have nearly as strong of a buff to attempt to convert into regular viewers. Breaking the 3k and 6k indie barrier is very hard without an incident putting tons of eyes on someone regardless of talent.

>>70438854
Actually, factually, literally and unironically kill yourself. Take a shotgun, push it into your mouth as far as it will go, and pull the trigger. I was watching Selen and Pomu from day 1. You kpop cunts and your waves of faggots ruined a good thing, a really, really good thing, and I will never forget that.

Same goes for the holobronies currently watching NijiEN burn. By all means pour that gasoline but I won't forget you fucks anti'd the shit out of my girls before you supported them. It'll be cold in hell before I trust you.

>>70438854
Maybe, but I'm one of the converted drama tourists. She's surprisingly entertaining.

Phase is doing well. Pippa above HoloID now.

Who the hell is meridian project? They seem to doing good. Unfamiliar

>>70463548
taiwanese, active on YT and twitch, it looks like a few of them have decent numbers

>>70463548
>Pippa
How does she do it?

>>70418821
Not bad