/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

shell say sike before the stream ends

>>7032974
>never even had a real karaoke stream.
Fuck me

Who?

>Another EN vtuber graduate
So HoloEN or NijiEN?

Hana is talented so she probably just got into Hololive or Nijisanji

>>7033603
Sony

RIP her gachis. She had an unusual amount, can't imagine what it's like for em

>>7033603
Sony most likely, no idea if there's a prerrequisite of not being an active VTuber to apply but maybe this is her "preventive measure" in case that's a thing and Sony didn't announce it.

is her name really just Flower Flowers?

>>7034490
>>7034999
Is she even living in Japan?

>>7035169
she moved *somewhere* very recently. Even had to change ISPs and everything

>>7035169
No she doesn't.

I've followed KawaPro from the beginning and i must say this is an odd graduation. 1st no one knows her previous life but Kawa did accept first time chuubas(Charzu) but Hana did have rigging exp in her past and fixed her genmates avatar so she is exp'd in Vtubing in some capacity. She is an A tier singer/play ukelele/bilingual/can stream 3+ hours ez and completely understands weeb culture so the only logical reasoning u can take is that she is moving up, but what auditions r open? Did she actually use HanaFlo streams for auditioning? That doesn't make sense cus she's been alive for only 3months.

The only way she gets into Holo is by submitting identical tapes to KawaPro and Cover cus she debuted sometime around the Holo auditions ending and for some reason Cover saw HanaFlo and decided she was good enuff and tried to poach her. She was already planning an uta stream at 10k subs and even moved to a new place with better ISP.

This is a complete rrat but was she planning on leaving KawaPro from the beginning? Was her main Gachi that gave her thousands of dollars somehow a plant she orchestrated to show she was profitable as a talent? She's gonna graduate on Aug 14 and there's currently Shachi who's still out there and Japanese HANJO will retire in Sept. it looks like things r lining up for Cover and expect a couple more grads in the coming days.

my rrat is KawaPro is a black company which explains her and Isla taking breaks at similar time.

>>7036587
Who is her main Gachi? If it's who I think it is then they're definitely not a plant.

>>7037465
Bluerappy

>>7036587
My guess is NijiEN wave 3. Auditions ended 2 weeks ago.

>>7036587
>Shachi who's still out there and Japanese HANJO will retire in Sept. it looks like things r lining up for Cover and expect a couple more grads in the coming days.
With the Sony 50 chuubas announcement, COVER and ICHIKARA expansions to EN and maybe but still a rrat "incursion on spic market" and new bolder and sometimes "stupider" kek agencies/companies opening up nearly monthly/weekly sometimes and with "lots of capital", I guess we are about to see a cascade of graduations on the following months.
I wanna see Hanjo on Hololive NGL, I don't think she would click that well on Niji and Sony can still fuck up very badly with it's "full roster gen 1" plan so she could end up on a bad spot and she's very entertaining.

>>7037170
It's a vtuber startup run by one person who has no background in entertainment or management, it wouldn't surprise me if it was a mess behind the scenes... it wouldn't be the first time that's happened, even among English speaking vtuber groups. Does anyone remember Deep-Sea Productions?

>>7032974
Is she really? That was quick....

>>7037995
Same guess, still, very interesting to see Niji legitimately poaching and girls bailing to it too.

>>7037995
but that means she was actively auditioning while already working under a contract with KawaPro. And if thats true it would mean she's only vtubing for the money but she never made herself out to be a money whore.

>>7035037
Kawaii isnt too good with names

>>7037995
Pomu implied the audition process took a long time so that's way too early for wave 3.

>>7036587
>but what auditions r open?
More like... what auditions recently closed

>>7033603
NijiEN recently ended third wave auditions. She might have auditioned and made it.

>>7039170
HANA AS THE CAT WITCH CUNNY PLEASE

>>7039744
that would work

>>7036587
>but what auditions r open?
Tsunderia Gen 3

>>7038672
We don't speak of that vantablack mess of a flip company. Those poor girls...

>>7039868
that makes even less sense, y move from one small company to another if anything that might be a downgrade cus she was already getting rainbow/akasupas. NijiEN3 doesnt make sense either cus she was already under contract and its been only 3 months since her debut and y would Kawaii let her use Hana streams to audition. That would literally mean she decided to leave even before 3 months to audition for Niji. The only thing that makes sense is she sent audition tapes for HoloEN2 and KawaPro and she put a clause in her Kawa contract stating that she would leave if she got accepted into Holo and Cover was putting her thru the next stage of the audition process while still deciding who gets in.

>>7040182
and to think he's back with a new "company". he even reused the old Facebook page for it, complete with comments about the group imploding on it

>>7040600
>its been only 3 months since her debut and y would Kawaii let her use Hana streams to audition. That would literally mean she decided to leave even before 3 months to audition for Niji
And that's never happened before, right?

>>7040726
>
who?

>>7040600
>NijiEN3 doesnt make sense either cus she was already under contract
Shes leaving regardless
>its been only 3 months since her debut and y would Kawaii let her use Hana streams to audition.
How would they know? What part of the application process informs Kawaii that Hana used her streams for auditions?

>>7039170
Far too fucking soon. They are probably just quitting streaming as a whole.

>>7033206
https://files.catbox.moe/3mk2o7.mp3
Doesn't feel so long ago with the end of stream ukuleles. I do hope she'll have a karaoke before 8/14

>>7040915
Well, we will know as soon as Wave 3 debuts.

>>7040600
>NijiEN3 doesnt make sense either cus she was already under contract and its been only 3 months since her debut and y would Kawaii let her use Hana streams to audition.
You don't know how long Kawaii Pro's contracts are. It's possible they were fully aware she was using them as a stepping stone. That's pretty normal for startups to hire developmental talent and build them up in exchange for a contract buyout from whoever picks them up next.

>>7040726
Imagine if Tsunderia were nicer to Rosemi about leaving they could be collabing with a 1.5k avg vtuber to build up their sub-100 viewer brand. Maybe Kawaii saw Tsunderia's mistake and are willing to let Hana out of her contract if she promotes them in her next life.

All I know about her is that she has the same rigger as Gura.
Hope her next life has a better rigger.

>>7041270
>Kawaii saw Tsunderia's mistake and are willing to let Hana out of her contract if she promotes them in her next life.
That would be a good idea.

>>7041339
If she does end up in Nijisanji their rigging is kind of mediocre for 1.0 rigs but still better than Gura's.

>>7041629
NijiEN uses 2.0 models.

>>7039170
>>7039744
UOOOOOOOOOOH
EROOOOO

>>7041629
Unironically, Hana shares the same rigger with Gura

>>7041982
Wait I'm dumb as fuck

>>7041270
This seems so risky its bordering idiotic. You're telling me KawaiiPro will let Hana leave in a buyout that specifically agrees upon Niji/Holo to collab or promote with current KawaiiPro chuubas. What will they do if Hana's next avatar collabs with Kawaii and they accidentally call her Hana or insinuate she sounds like someone who use to work here? Niji is all about Niji and Cover is all about Cover they don't promote the competition so y do it for a small company like Kawaii? At that point Niji/Cover would be better off just buying out KawaiiPro and reorganizing them into their company instead of picking off Hana specifically.

>>7033603
Amazon

>>7040766
The rat from Tsunderia, who graduated to join NijiEN2

>>7042115
Agreed. Niji would never agree to terms like that, and Hana couldn't make a promise like that on her own without jeopardizing her own future

>>7042115
>What will they do if Hana's next avatar collabs with Kawaii and they accidentally call her Hana or insinuate she sounds like someone who use to work here?
Nothing will happen, they'll just move on. There will be no big explosion, no crazy reaction or anything. Theyll be like 'oops' and move on like nothing happened.

>>7042115
Why would it be risky exactly? Pomu/Elira's last collab before graduating to NijiEN was with Pikamee and they've both collabed with Pikamee.
Collaborating with people from your past life has never been off-limits for Hololive or Nijisanji. Especially if these people are professionals under a company they can be expected to have management telling them what they can and can't say to avoid risks like that.

>>7042246
I don't think Niji would care or that Hana would need to explicitly set that as terms for her graduation. It's more just about maintaining goodwill since it can benefit them in the long-term to have connections with more successful chuubas and brands. The NijiEN girls interact with indies and startup agency chuubas quite a bit on Twitter and seem more willing to collab with them than Hololive are so I could see a NijiEN/Kawaii Pro group collab as a possibility in the future just through having that connection into NijiEN from Hana.

>>7040915
>They are probably just quitting streaming as a whole.
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srp2fu
>reaching for the starts
That doesn't read like she's quitting streaming

>>7042354
>I could see a NijiEN/Kawaii Pro group collab as a possibility in the future just through having that connection into NijiEN from Hana.
And not just that. Pomu's past life was friends with Isla's past life.

>>7042498
Doesn't sound like a Tsunderia situation so someone definitely either bought out her contract or Kawaii Pro knew she was leaving for months.

>>7040600
what makes you think anikara didn't just buy out the remainder of her contract?

>>7042498
>something that I have been thinking about and planning for a while now
What does that even mean for a girl who debuted not even 3 months ago?

>>7042770
That's funny

>>7042115
>What will they do if Hana's next avatar collabs with Kawaii and they accidentally call her Hana or insinuate she sounds like someone who use to work here?
Lulu once typed her real name by accident when a game asked her what they should call her and she looked directly to the audience, smugly smiled and erased it. It's not a big deal you sound exactly like HER fags.

>>7042770
lip serve

desu it's probably something related to her professional career, not vtubing

>>7042354
according to her tweet "from a distance" doesnt sound like she will have anything to do with KawaiiPro anytime after her grad.

>>7042498
>That doesn't read like she's quitting streaming
Why? Chitose had a similar graduation message when she signed up to be singer. Streaming is not the only thing there is.

>>7041020
Trust me man she won't be in Nijisanji at least. It's a 3 step process to get into Niji: Application form, then a first and second interview. Not only is there no way they've selected people already, they have no reason to stop streaming until they're close to debuting in Nijisanji. Look at everyone from wave 1 and 2, they didn't stop streaming until months after auditions closed. And there is no way we are getting wave 3 in any time under a month, not because it's not feasible, because Niji can put out a new streamer every single day if they wanted to, but because that's detrimental to growth and marketing. You need plenty of empty time between each wave of debuts, at least within the same branch.

>>7032974
Another day, another graduation,
Another thread full of rrats
It's all so tiresome, I just wanna enjoy my chuubas

>>7039256
Too early for that, the recent wave only graduated a couple months before debut

>>7032974
LMAAAAAAAAO her name is "Hana Flores" which literally means "Flower Flower". Sooooo heckin funny lololololol amiright ?

>>7043746
>Too early for that
Not Dokibird

>>7043647
wave 3 is probably going to be announced in October-December there's no way she was selected this early unless her application was that good. It's most likely that it's something else.

>Chuuba active for 3 months
>Had little to no presence here
>Suddenly graduates
>Rrats come spewing out the sewers

Why?

>>7044110
You just listed the reason

>>7044110
Personally I don't care about the girl even though I do follow some of the members from her company. Apparently her and Nene are the big hitters of the bunch. I just find it interesting to think that startups will essentially serve as developmental groups/stepping stones for vtubers.

>>7043878
Generally they know they've made it in at least 3 months before debut. Even though Wave 3 auditions just ended a week ago they could've fast-tracked some of the people with enough experience/talent whose applications got filtered to the front of the list.

>>7043647
>You need plenty of empty time between each wave of debuts, at least within the same branch.
>Lazulight debuted on May:https://youtu.be/MC6yl3CyePA
>Obsidia debuted on July:https://youtu.be/iIiZsQSxCQk
>Literally one month apart
Tell me you are being ironic

>>7044283
Those are from the same wave of auditions retard. Obsydia knew they got in the same time Lazulight did and they've been in the Slack server forever communicating with Lazulight and planning their debuts.

>>7044318
Don't reply to bait, he obviously doesn't watch NijiEN if he doesn't know they're from the same wave.

>>7044283
>Literally one month apart
Do your June reps.

>>7044318
Their past lifes were still active despite being accepted and only stopped just weeks before debut:
https://youtu.be/TUp7_24F3xo
https://youtu.be/pE6Yu5WDvpw
Literally knowing Anycolor way of working with debuts, Wave 3 may come next month and their first male wave by the end of the year if they take it slow.
Hololive on the other hand:
>EN1: September 2020
>VsingerEN: July
Is still unknow when EN2 will come, but their auditions enden months ago...

>>7044415
>From May to July is just one month=June
Retard
Are nijiniggers really denying that Nijisanji just throw waves like candies on a halloween night.

>>7032974
Is Kawaii a flop?

>>7044574
Anykara's audition for Wave 3 just ended last week.
They might come in October since she's graduating mid-August, that's believable since the Live2D models are already done and they're just looking for people to play them unlike Lazulight/Obsydia who didn't have pre-made characters to audition for.

>>7044626
Lazulight debut - May 16th
OBSYDIA debut - July 17th
That is 2 months.

>>7044645
Lazulight has said they had pre-made characters. Iirc the only wave that'll have their own characters will be the male wave.

>>7044283
>>7044415
>>7044695
>One month
>Two months
The absolute state of numberfags...

>>7032974
She was one of my favorite chubas, it's sad to see her go, but somehow I knew it was bound to happen.
I just hope we get to see more of her in the future, she has potential, all of her Bully streams were a lot of fun to watch

>>7044743
When did they say that? I don't think the audition form had pre-made characters. No idea if they were assigned those characters after the audition or if they chose them out of Nijisanji's character stash like the JP branch. Certainly they made some changes to them though since Elira specifically had Pikl's QUEEN necklace custom made to be a Jojo reference.

>>7044830
It was in one of Finana’s or Pomu’s stream, i don’t remember.

>>7032974
Indies graduating makes my cock hard.

>>7044949
They're not really indies though

>>7044626
Please be bait

>>7044927
I'm really interested in seeing that. Someone timestamp please.

>>7044830
>Jojo reference.
I'm caught up on the manga and don't get it. What is it supposed to be referencing?

>>7045319
She said it's a Killer Queen reference since Pikl looks like the stand and Part 4 is her favorite.

>>7039256
There's no specific time frame for when a person must graduate after being accepted. Some tubers stay on their indies for months, others see no reason and get it out of the way early

>>7044645
There's definitely more that goes into it than just that. Maybe not much, but for example: Making another MV, hiring managers, preparing stream assets etc.

>>7045339
That's a stretch but whatever she says I guess.

>>7036587
>>7037465
Plants can't use computers or hold bank accounts.

>>7032974
It's barely been three months what the hell?
I had actual hopes for this agency too.

Damn, I literally just binge watched a bunch of Kawaii stuff after seeing the collab with PRISM yesterday. Charlotte is my fave but I really liked Hana too. Hopefully she doesn't go to NijiEN since then I will never get to watch her again :(

>>7045762
kek

wtf
so soon

>>7046051
It's always a risk when you get invested into these smaller companies that aren't growing super fast unfortunately.

>>7044830
I still want an answer to this

>>7032974
I've been watching Hanaflo since the start and I can say: I expected for her to get bigger, but not like this...

Wherever she goes, I follow.

>>7036587
>play ukelele
Why do egirls obsess over this instrument so much?

>>7054254
It's lightweight

>>7046104
Is not like they are Cyberlive tier, they are doing mostly fine

>>7054340
So is the violin without being a quirky maymay instrument.

>>7032974
Literally who?

>>7054254
It's easy to learn, grade school kids learn it.

Oh fucking hell I was just watching her stream the other night and I forgot she had an announcement in that stream. I never saw it all.
I was enjoying that stream. Christ.
I hope she comes back.

>>7054396
The violin sounds like absolute ass while you're learning, and also it's fairly expensive compared to a ukelele

>>7055290
And also doesn't sound good on stream unless you have major equipment

>>7032974
Well wherever she goes she'll be an absolute gosling machine

>>7032974
Boring as fuck. Tons of dead air. Nothing of value was lost.

>>7038642
Hanjo a real hard worker, she was always trying to do big stuff and working with others. The shift from short edited vids to livestreaming didn't work out for her. Hope she's found a good place even if it's as staff somewhere.

>>7054254
guitar filters small hands people like me

>>7056689
The way Hanjo was phrasing things makes me think she will be involved in the scene still in some capacity. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up as a manger for an upcoming generation for one of the companies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcHJLlJK0k&t=2676s
I hope she stays as a vtuber though.

>>7032974
Who?

>>7044645
Some can request a costum character.