/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>70234262
Another Niji deflection thread.

>>70234262
Negative is a strong word
Disappointed is better

Also go away Finana

>>70234262
Educate yourself anon and do some reps

>>70234262
>from what I remember it was generally positive
You should check with your doctor about being tested for early onset Alzheimers.

>>70234262
Educate yourself

PARASOCIAL FUCKS

>>70234262
>Why does everyone here dislike her?
dumb whore that can't learn from her mistakes

threadreaders and newfags

>>70234262
>Self-explanatory image
Got any counter this argument?

>>70234262
Is this Finana?

>>70234340
GASLIGHTING FUCKS

>>70234379
>>70235221
>Disappointed is better
>dumb whore that can't learn from her mistakes
What did she do to disappoint you anon?
>>70235630
How is that practical

>>70234262
she was well liked here early on
she spent her time since then shitting on her fans

>>70234262
>Got gaslighted by Zaion
>Wants education for people
>Traps hurt people
>Tells everyone how to play a recorder and e-toothbrush with her lips
She's pretty good desu, haters will just hate.

>>70234262
>Why does everyone here dislike her?
She's in Nijisanji

>>70235806
She should be a better version of herself instead of "learning" to be different from other people

>>70235806

>>70236281
Context, what'a a "valoguard"?

I like my dumb little sister Finana

>>70236441
Finana was exposed to have a secret discord with some of her top fans. They ended up grooming her to be their perfect oshi at the expense of literally the rest of her entire audience. They were so close she ended up sending them the audition video she used... which got leaked by them of course.

>>70235682
That's Sakamata!

>>70236635
Very good!

>>70236621
/nijiEN/ of course didn't see anything wrong about this.

>>70236621
>Finana was exposed to have a secret discord with some of her top fans
Oh Jesus Christ

>>70236441
Her groomer discord group she blatantly favored over her fans.

All of that sounds like carreer ending. How's she still around?
Oh, wait.

>>70236621
What happened when this discord got leaked? How did her regular fans react?

>>70236281
>visiting valoguards
>pulled a Riro Ron but got away with it
KEK

>>70237060
>Looks at her ccv.
I think the didn't take it well, which honestly is normal.
>>70237101
Holy shit that's literally it.

>>70235718
Can you make her mouth bigger?

>>70236784
Her career really hasn't been the same for ages. Her recent MV was the only exception.

>>70236281
I don't like my dumb little sister Finana anymore.

Slightly regretting starting this thread but lets see how deeper the rabbit hole goes. What's with the whole PARASOCIAL FUCKS thing?

>>70237304
>$252 for a MV
Jesus.

>>70237205
I've never seen someone who had such an outright disdain to her audience. Sure there's been some cases where other chuubas handled spergouts badly but she legit drove away parts of her audience time and time again.

>>70237060
A lot of fans who watched her were mad and her ccv + superchats tanked.
However, this is NijiEN we are talking about, so there was also a portion that went with the "Parasocial incel fans cry, but I dont see anything wrong with it" angle. These fans are just not the ones that pay - They just watch clips. So overall her channel is kind of dead.

>>70237304
>>70237487
>probably from kyo's fans

>>70237205
How many of them are there? Just trying to get an estimate on the length of the train.

post the pasta

>>70237525
ay, not even that, going by that positivity rentry that was making rounds around the board. Most of it had "never seen her but she sure is sweet"

>>70237585
This is around Kyo's graduation so last MV, I can believe that's the reason for the 1M.

>>70237457
There's context to that whole statement. It was I think February 2022, Luxiem was still new, and Vox was doing one of his intimate ASMR streams. Reimu disrupted the stream in a voice call IIRC to essentially troll his fans or if you believe the GURRAT she probably wanted to sabotage his career, either or. Vox tried to play it off but the Kindred were absolutely not having it, and after the stream ended they went ballistic and spammed death threats to Reimu and shit. It got to a point where Vox essentially had to give in and do a whole "WE ARE NOT DATING" stream, though he pretty much backtracked on that because he loved the money and the fame too much.
Finana just said "L + Ratio you parasocial fucks" in support of Vox's stream, but of course because of all the drama that she would get tangled up with after the fact, it's essentially been used against her, often without the original context.

>>70237304
>HONKAI: STAR RAIL PENACONY HERE WE COME!!!
>It's almost 5 hours long
>Only $20s in supas
Jesus fucking Christ that's actually painful to look at. I've seen small streamers in the double digits make more in less time, the fact that a streamer working for a major company can make that much in 5 hours during a collab is genuinely astonishing

>>70237911
>Finana just said "L + Ratio you parasocial fucks" in support of Vox's stream
>A few weeks later

>>70237921
Goddammit I meant to copy paste the HOPCON BEFORE BREAK title

>>70237911
Don't misattribute bullshit to the GURRAT you fiend, they have nothing to do with one another.

>>70238061
Look at this dude

>>70237921
>>70238061
After the % cut she still able to E2S1 Sparkle, she's fine. lmao

>>70237921
You also had to remember, this is after the drama involving Selen. Before it wasn't even better, presumably the bulk of her money comes from membership streams at this rate. Its also why she was probably sad about not being able to go to Antarctica with Pomu, because she literally cannot afford to do so with her current fanbase.

>>70238026
Shit I forgot about that. Even though it happened a year later, people were spamming that shit against Finana in threads.

>>70238165

Stupid bitch actually makes less than minimum wage.

>>70238165
>8 (eight) american dollars

>>70238165
I think everything happened in 2023? 2024 has been incredibly long already so I'm not sure

>>70238165
Eidolons & Constellation is more important than friendship sorry

>>70238026
https://youtu.be/q9RAZxNdCk8

The biggest problem is that she's been given many, many chances to fix herself over the last several years and instead she keeps retreating to the wrong people and digging herself into deeper and deeper holes. She's gullible and takes the opinions of pretty much anyone she's around, so with the right management and friends she could've been fantastic, but sadly the groomer discord completely destroyed her and she keeps relapsing back to them and their views. Because a lot of us still think of her as the gullible idiot, we think she can be saved if she fixes herself, but as time goes on it seems more and more unlikely as she just proves to be selfish as fuck. Reminder that the main reason she couldn't go to antarctica with elira and pomu is because she was broke due to her terrible purchasing habits, as well as the time she "surprised" pomu at an offcollab with having no money and making pomu pay for her stuff too, as well as the Girls Talk hotel room offcollab where she invited a guy (albeit gay) and Pomu took most of the heat for it because it was on her channel. People still aren't over that last one. As a sayu/doki fan, I'm not a unicorn, but even I can tell you that it's a TERRIBLE idea to mislead people like that, especially with the optics of being alone in a hotel room with a man (albeit gay) when you're still known as a bit of a slut streamer.

>>70238314
If Finana gets hired as an EN manager, she will be able to double her income.

I want to gangbang Finana with everyone in this thread as a punishment.

>>70234262

Combine
>PARASOCIAL FUCKS
with
>Secret groomer discord (parasocial)
and
>"Please respect other people" (not the fans though)

>>70238392
What was the april fools' thing she pulled people also mentioned?

>>70238392
everyone always glosses over her horrible spending habits and not brushing her teeth and just sperg about uki when she made pomu pay for her vacation

>>70238470
I miss the JOI asmr...

>>70234262
She does shit like this to "own the haters!!1! lmoa!!" and I dislike people who do that instead of simply focusing in being a streamer

btw, I'm femanon, so you can't even use the unicorn excuse on me

I saw someone in a archived thread mention she browses /vt/, Is this true or just people trolling?

>>70238611
Give him the posts, boys.

>>70234262
Boring, not funny, bobba liberal,complicit with clique's harassment

I don't and have never cared for coombaiting but cultivating that fanbase to repeatedly bash them after taking their money speaks volumes. Doing an unfunny april fools day baiting for superchat is scummy as well. She could have at least put some effort into the prank like making an ironic and chaotic cringe type asmr but no. I wasn't even mad at that point, just disappointed in myself for thinking she'd do something funny.

>>70238611
Wasnt she the one that had active threads open and /#/ archives bookmarked when she was screen sharing her browser?

>>70237921
If you think that's bad, just remember she makes 1/3 of the posted superchat amount

>>70238457
I wouldn't even bang her after that groomer discord passed her around.

>>70238611
All vtubers do. Unironically.
There is literally no other place to discuss vtubers that isn't a complete hugbox.

>>70238710
It was Reimu if I remember correctly.
Reimu cute by the way, would fuck.

>>70238787
>no other place to discuss vtubers that isn't a complete hugbox
Have you seen the Niji reddit lately anon?

>>70238849
didn't they sperg out so bad after that elira stream that their jannies abandoned it?

>>70234262
She nuked her career for groomers who don't want to pay kek

>>70238576
Some femanons are alright
I'm a virgin though so I wouldn't know

>>70238457
Same. Also I think nobody's felt like mentioning that she basically started off as "the innocent nympho" archetype for NijiEN, like some kind if mini-twitchtuber. She'd constantly talk about sex stuff, her toys, weird stories like how she masturbated with her sister's recorder, the time her dad opened her mail and saw her vibrator, etc. And allegedly her ASMR was absurdly hot. (not an ASMR fan so I never bothered, but people are STILL talking about them to this day.) Eventually though the discord convinced her that she was pandering too hard to males so she completely attempted to do a 180 on all of her content and instead tried to shame her fans for only wanting sex stuff out of her, when that was literally the only thing that made her stand out before. She wasn't good at games. She wasn't the best chatter or reader, and dumb cute girls are a dime a dozen in this industry. She had a real, marketable niche and just... kept doubling down on chasing those people away without having any possible way to fill that void. You could draw a Nyanners comparison I guess, except for the fact that Finana clearly wasn't underage when making the coomer content, so there's not much of an excuse for chasing off people, and Nyanners seems to have a lot more going for her as an entertainer than Finana does, so I guess she was able to pivot properly.

The saddest thing is that she really can still recover. She's not beyond help and people still think she has her niche inside her somewhere. Sayu's proven that you can come back after being dealt a terrible reputation, and her audience even now is still mid-high indie level. If she can just swallow her pride for 5 goddamn minutes and make a conscious effort to improve like Sayu did, she can totally go back to lazulight levels or higher.

>>70238815
Stop self-advertising Reimu, it's pathetic and easy to spot every time. You have no discernible fanbase to actually post about you online

>>70238849
Alright, fair enough. vt used to be the only place that wasn't a complete hugbox for years. Niji reddit now fills that role.
However, Niji reddit might be a pseudo 4chan for a while yes. But if and when niji takes over again and new sisters become mods, its going to be a dead hugbox again, like it was before.

>>70238969
Rude...

>>70239096
Well, jp before vt, but you get what I mean.

Has she ever addressed her current reputation? I feel like if your preforming this poorly and decreasing you should try to reflect on your actions

>>70238523
Basically, Finana had a succubus ASMR stream scheduled for April 1st. Obviously people were excited because ASMRs was one of the only things that Finana had to her name by 2023. People donated quite a bit, even waited a few minutes because they thought "Eh it's okay, she's just late". That quickly turned into "Oh, Finana probably overslept, whatever", to "Oh, I guess Finana maybe forgot she scheduled it?". The April Fools prank wasn't even that it was a troll stream, it was that there was nothing. She even had her banner changed to a version of her flipping off the camera with her 3D model.
She did do something, but that was hours after the fact and after she felt guilty by the fact that Elira essentially streamed like it was nothing. Some Ryugards still had hope even though hours and hours had passed.

>>70238611
She probably browses Warosu for mentions of her name now. She looked up "Pomu Rainpuff jar" extremely early on in her career, found the archives, and in confusion said "Is this another version of 4chan?". It's not confirmation but tons of vtubers big and small lurk here, it would not be shocking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSIY2xcwXmU&t=10111s

>>70238611
Millie's GC stream all but confirms the whole NijiEN not only browses here, but has this place rent free in their minds all time. To the point the influx of shitposts here will shape how some streams (public ones or members) will be conducted

>>70238392
>"surprised" pomu at an offcollab
But have you considered Uki's perspective? He just wanted to have this nice off collab with Finana and suddenly there is white people!

>>70234262
She divorced herself from parasocials

>>70237911
You are lying, sis.
The gurrat never insinuated Reimu wanted to damage Vox's career.
Finana's L+ratio @parasocial fucks was directed to her own fans that had been kvetching about the groomercord and her statements about the change in her content.

>>70238950
>Can still recover like Sayu.
Let's be real, Sayu was also vindicated. What's going on here feels like it will do the exact opposite to her.

>>70238576
Femanon, you are cordially invited to the Finana gangbang.

>>70239363
>the whole NijiEN not only browses here, but has this place rent free in their minds all time. To the point the influx of shitposts here will shape how some streams will be conducted
Really? Any notable streams that've had 4chan influence?

>>70239228
Holy fuck she actually despises her audience

would forgive her if she went back to coomer ASMR

>>70234262
Finana is most attractive in real life, so clique could smear her out of jealousity.

>>70238611
If it's not her, it's someone who acts just like her. There's no way to 100% confirm, but we absolutely have many, many screenshots of random vtubers large and small visiting /vt/ so much it's either one of their bookmarks, one of the tabs on their browser, or one of their most visited sites.
https://files.catbox.moe/tbuzf8.png
Reimu's in particular is hilarious because it shows not only that /vt/ is her most viewed site after her literal work related sites, but she ALSO has the archive channel on her top sites as well as exposes her PL again, meaning she doesn't just search current threads, but past ones as well.
As for her showing up, here's some threads that she seemed pretty obvious. For help noticing her, using "you fucks" is a relatively uncommon phrase for 4chan. She seemed to swap to "you fags" once called out on it, though.

For some light reading, here's some extremely obvious cases of either her, or someone pretending to be her lurking threads, either asking for advice or desperately trying to defend Niji's recent actions as "Doki/Sayu won't respond and help clear our names. It's their fault for not letting us apologize" while somehow either spilling information we didn't know, or sperging out in weirdly emotional ways. She tends to show up multiple times in each thread she appears in.
>>70238652
>>/vt/thread/69903335#p69907378
>>/vt/thread/70072958#p70098443
>>/vt/thread/69903335#p69908953
>>/vt/thread/70072958#p70099650
>>/vt/thread/70177886#p70181835

>>70239747
The secret gc stream is the first thing that comes to my mind.

>>70239747
The GC stream was shaped to resemble 4chan itself, Enna complaining on members after people here started rratposting about her being one of the clique bullies, Scarle forced to collab with Astel after her abuse DMs with him leaked here, so on and on

>>70238165
>Its also why she was probably sad about not being able to go to Antarctica with Pomu, because she literally cannot afford to do so with her current fanbase.
Good. She probably would have dragged a surprise faggot into the holiday and music video.

>>70239792
You should check your eyes then, at best she's just 6.

>>70240075
i mean
>most attractive
from NijiEN girls.

>>70239747
Millie made an entire stream that was just a few EN members shitposting in a discord call, pretending to be 4chan hating on NijiEN. They ended up airing a LOT of their own insecurities, as well as adding awful details that we had no idea about (specifically how bad Pomu's 3D Debut was, which 4chan was absolutely not talking about at all.) It got a lot of backlash for going too far and exposing a lot of their weaknesses while also emboldening the trolls by letting them know that their efforts are being noticed. It was a confusing, if original idea at the time, but in hindsight it was a disaster that split a lot of NijiEN apart as some people were uncomfortable and nobody ever wanted to talk about it again, banning any mention of it.

Recently, Kotoka went crazy and made a statement about how she was completely unrelated to Yozora Mel being terminated from hololive. There was absolutely no reason to publicly acknowledge this rrat, and the only people convinced she had anything to do with it was 4chan. 2chan didn't give a shit iirc, and twitter had no fucking idea. Instead it just threw gasoline on the situation by bringing attention to a rrat that only existed here, and suddenly twitter was suspicious about it too (though 2ch had no idea because JOP).

>>70239844
kek, I wasn't expecting to see /cm/. Also pic rel has a cute design

>>70239844
>She tends to show up multiple times in each thread she appears in
I'm so proud of you Reimu, you're a true 4channer

>>70239228
man that's just sad

>>70240163
Ah, then I apologized.

>>70239844
Add this thread, a lot of suspicious posts like
>>/vt/thread/70142517#p70155279

>>70239747
>>70239980
fuck how could I forget the Astel/Scarle leaks leading to that horrible stream? There was a leak of a conversation of Aster emotionally manipulating Scarle, a known doormat, and being a general pest, forcing her to apologize for "making him uncomfortable" by basically existing. After it leaked, Aster and Scarle both changed their next stream to be a collab where both of them constantly called each other "BESTIE" and made a show of how "SUCH GOOD FRIENDS" they were. Allegedly, immediately after Scarle had a members stream and cried for an hour.

>>70239844
>focus on browsing shitposting website more than in her own career
>causes 1 drama that tanks both Vox and Finana's reputation
>gets away with it because her own fanbase is not big enough to care or make any noise about

>>70240326
>>>/vt/thread/70142517#p70155279
I completely forgot she showed up in this thread. I was one of the people making long, heartfelt responses in there and seeing her writing style dismissing pretty much everything in favor of her selfishness turned me from being hopeful that she could change into giving up on her. I didn't even give up on Sayu after she relapsed so many times, since she always really seemed like she loved her fanbase and wanted to fix herself, but Fish seems to be a special breed.

>>70240300
Ok, I got to ask to understand how over the limit it was...were superchats on at the time?

>>70240330
>Allegedly, immediately after Scarle had a members stream and cried for an hour.
Man this thread just keeps getting more depressing. Never realised how much I should value my oshi more than I do

>>70240169
>Recently, Kotoka went crazy and made a statement about how she was completely unrelated to Yozora Mel being terminated from hololive
Wait, what? There was literally one anon going around making threads about that and nobody even believed him. Is Kotoka /here/ too?

>>70240300
That's fucking hilarious. It's rare for a good April fools joke nowadays.

>>70240330
>>70240531

>>70240531
She didn't cry for an hour straight. She was just sobbing and whimpering intermittently.
if anything, the fact that the membership stream has not been leaked proves her fanbase is extremely committed and loyal. She delivered on the ASMR promise if the stream was kept secret, so good on her.

>>70240300
Kek

>>70239228
Wasn't she in Elira's chat at the time bragging about her "prank" and Elira just ignored her?

>>70240564
>>70240666
Oh right. I forgot. Scarle allegedly said in the members stream that if it wasn't leaked, she'd do ASMR. Scarle fans are something else, man. She's dumb, but she's a beautiful kind of dumb that makes you want to support her. I hope she has a good career.

None of this Selen stuff is going to affect Niji EN in the long term, stop making threads about it and buy a fucking ad.

>>70240853
shut the fuck up Elira this thread isn't about your fuckups

>>70237304
What website do you use to get this data?

>>70240603
God this thread is so depressing. No wonder anyone with a brain is trying to get the hell out as fast as possible.

Is that one of the Niji's posting here right now? This thread has nothing to do with Selen so I assume so

>>70240469
Yes. She kept the waiting room open all day then it never happened.

>>70241044
Most of their careers haven't been as openly bad as Finana's. She's a serious riches to rags story.
also I forgot to include some replies in the kotoka tweet for maximum funny to hammer the point home.

>>70239747
You missed out on last year's clusterfuck that was the Secret GC stream.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg2XZDyi7Vs
If archived posts are correct, Millie announced this stream originally as a "guess which liver is who stream". That plan got immediately derailed though and tons of livers either never spoke out about it or denounced it. Millie tweeted out after the fact
>If anyone didn't get the context clues, the "secret gc" is meant to be a satire stream. It means to express and poke fun at the hate we receive on a daily basis to show how ridiculous it is. Please do not harass or ask any livers about it anywhere or on streams. Thank you
In the end the stream and all mentions of it were essentially wiped out the face of the earth.

>>70241030
Its called Playboard, I think a website based in Korea but with English support. Its worth noting that this website doesn't tell the whole picture, we have no clue how much memberships each Youtuber has. But it paints a small picture if nothing else.

>>70240972
But did you see Pokemon ZA, anon? It was super poggers.

Finana is basically the most typical woman her age it's to the point it's almost comical. Refuses to own any of her mistakes, is uninformed and dumb but keeps trying to behave in ways only someone who isn't dumb can pull off, is totally incapable of filtering out bad people from her social circles, and doesn't understand her own appeal

>>70240566
Best thing was that they just told the people upset at the "prank" they should just move on and watch someone else.

>>70241185

>>70238250
nah man she sells a lot of merch. I'm sure she gets a good cut. Oh wait 2%

>>70241293
Poggy woggies

>>70240853
tabs

>>70241306
Oh anon... She sells even worse than Elira...

but seriously, no one is going to care in half a year

>>70237921
It's hard to watch but remember she did all to herself.

>>70241442
Half a year is a long time.

>>70241442
yeah, because she is gonna be 1view in half a year

>>70241134
If anything Finana's situation just proves further "there are no qualified managers in NijiEN" rrat to be true. She's actually too dumb and would need constant tardwrangling from a responsible manager to succeed, which is the case in many of Hololive talents and they seem to do very well despite being so heavily helicoptered by managers over there
Just 1 babysitting manager could potentially fix her career

>>70241509
they already stopped bleeding subs, it's done and most of them moved on and people are back to sucking them off

>>70237921
Makes me wonder, could it be her grooming discord work? They make her do stupid shit leading to self-sabotage, so cucks can feel more secure about their prey.

>>70241529
>Just 1 babysitting manager could potentially fix her career
Hilarious to think she might've been unironically a star in Hololive.

>>70237304
the funny thing is she spends more than this on gatcha pulls anyway, before we even talk about YouTube and AnyColor's percentages

>>70241091
>>70240469
>Schedules Succubus RP ASMR stream
>Ghosts it
>Chats in other streams whens he was supposed to stream
>Gained 140+ Gifted memberships
>Gained $1k+ in Supas
>Streamed 6 hours later for 5 minutes
>Leaves

>>70241291
and a lot fucked off. now she's crying about the consequences of her actions. Much respect to those lads and ladettes that fucked off. You may have been nijistans but you're alright in my book

>>70241682
That's not even a funny "1st april prank".... that's just petty gold digging. What was she thinking?

>>70238392
>Reminder that the main reason she couldn't go to antarctica with elira and pomu is because she was broke due to her terrible purchasing habits,
>as well as the time she "surprised" pomu at an offcollab with having no money and making pomu pay for her stuff too,
>as well as the Girls Talk hotel room offcollab where she invited a guy (albeit gay) and Pomu took most of the heat for it because it was on her channel.
Dumb as a rock, gullible, zero accountability, terminally online, bad at finances she truly is the little sister experience. What's wrong with this fish?

>>70241555
Is that why Enna made half of what she made last year for her birthday karaoke?

is that why nenmen are making a couple hundred bucks combined in supas?

is that why last two gens can't broach 3view combined?

is that why a 10-liver offcollab surprise karaoke couldn't broach 4view without botting, and lost to a random helldivers doki stream?
Phase connect had almost double the median ccv per talent so far in 2024, and they are even beating nijien in superchat revenue. 32 livers and a billion-dollar corporation were beaten by a fishman and a group of menheras.


GRIM GRIM GRIM

>>70241839
Honestly most of this would be fixed if she touched grass. I know I'm saying this on 4chan of all places, but in all seriousness, it's what she needs the most

>>70238392
I didn't knew it happened in Pomu's channel. That's even worse, holy shit. Poor Pomu

>>70241953
>one side bots and the other totally doesnt
lol okay jeremy

>>70242032
why would dokibird bot a random helldivers stream?

why is her viewership graph normal while the niji graph kept spiking like a heart monitor?
sister...........

>>70242175
please understand they need something to cope with

>>70242032
jessica...

>>70242175
>normal
kek

>>70241529
>Rrat
Didn't Riku literally blamed it all on poor management? Don't we know for a fact 90% of it fucked off for NFT?
The rrat is Elira, Management being shit isreal.

>>70242027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0XktfsOoMI
You can see just from the thumbnail what everyone expected. I can't even bring myself to watch the stream to see chat's reaction. I just remember being disappointed.
Here's an old schizo post with links.
>>/vt/thread/69014403#p69027967

I'll just copypaste it for the lazy too.

>>68779409
Version with and without links, copied from other threads.
>Finana discord cancelled their b-day billboard project because she told them they're unoriginal and copying hololive
https://files.catbox.moe/p211o3.jpg

>male crashing Pomu+Finana yuribait off-collabs as a "surprise"
https://files.catbox.moe/9zbe28.png

>Finana openly admitting to lying about it and selling it as a "girls night" despite the male being planned all-along
https://files.catbox.moe/95urxj.jpg

>comment sections getting closed to hide complaints
https://files.catbox.moe/7qnonr.png

>Finana has a menhera meltdown on twitter about how nobody draws her in group fanart and cancels streams because of it
https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu/status/1516160827069456386

>Finana jumps in during the drama with her infamous "L + Ratio you parasocial fucks" tweet (somehow this doesn't stop her from doing valentines dates and sell wedding ring merch though)

https://files.catbox.moe/q36ffe.jpg

>Finana menheraposts on twitter about "trap" being a slur and bans the word, tells viewers to "educate themselves", then promptly backpedals unbans it and apologizes after backlash
https://files.catbox.moe/3079fs.png
>>/vt/thread/27228440

>Finana gets caught joining a fan discord server with her official account where she constantly joins vc and plays games with its members, gets bonked by management and is forced to leave it only for her to create an alt account and join again behind management's back, causing her biggest paypigs to leave her over the preferential treatment to the members of the server
https://rentry.org/fmcox
https://twitter.com/ContainmentB239/status/1547730451938168836
https://web.archive.org/web/20220714153830/https://pastebin.com/f94aCCuS

>Finana's aforemention discord groomer circle leaks her Nijisanji audition tape
https://twitter.com/ContainmentB239/status/1547736242330079233
https://files.catbox.moe/z1u6id.mp4
>Arranged an off-collab with Pomu at a hotel. The basis of the collab was that Finana's parents wanted her to have another woman around that she trusted while she went to HoyoFair (gacha shit). Finana snuck Uki (a gay male) into the collab after telling everyone (including Pomu and her parents) that it was a girls' night off-collab.
>Also, during that trip, Finana's cards declined because she's abhorrently terrible with money, so Pomu had to pay for everything, and probably never got paid back. Pomu herself brought it up as the reason the last LazuLight off collab was just her and Elira; Finana couldn't show up and Pomu wasn't paying for her.
>Finana hung out in a Ryugard discord, as Finana, which naturally resulted in certain Ryugards getting preferential treatment over others. When paypigs out of the loop complained, management told her to get out of that discord, which she did, then almost immediately rejoined under a second account.
>Among other things she may or may not have done in that discord, she leaked her Nijisanji audition tape, played games in Discord calls, and did ASMR for them.
>She's fucking retarded with finances in general; constantly spends her income on sneakers and gacha. Ryugards may have single-handedly funded Honkai Star Rail with how many rolls she's done on their dime.

>>70238161
She must come from a wealthy family if she is able to throw away that much money on (several) gacha trash

>>70242348
yeah, it's completely normal.
It gradually rose to 16k and stayed consistent for the entirety of the stream.

meanwhile, niji graph is 9k, when spikes to 16k, then plummets to 11k, then spikes to 19k, then plummetes to 7k, and it keeps going up and down like a heart monitor.

You retards can't even bot properly

>>70242382
Can someone bait her in different discord when local groom her into slut vtuber for public use?
Current grooming discord is shit, sharing is caring!

>>70241555
They are all still slow bleeding. Not going down as the black video but Scarle is the only one who gained some and there were Concerts and Birthdays on Febraury, Valentine's month.
It's like saying Anycolor's stock is doing well because it's fluctuating but it's still a net loss for anyone who brought before this mess.

Is the "educate yourselves" the same situations as the parasocial fucks one?

>>70242736
the "educate yourselves" was around the type her groomercord friends convinced her trap was an anti-tranny slur.

>>70241837
Oh, and supposedly she took a 1 week break after that

>>70242561
I'm starting to think if they culled 1/2 the roster, particularly those with some suspicion around them and made Scarle the face of the franchise on EN side and promoted her heavily, they might actually be on to a winner or at least back to respectability.

>>70243007
I doubt they are gonna get rid of the homo, but since Gen 2 is basically out of the door and Gen 1 is compromised as fuck, they could just let them go and restart from the bottom?
Then again, they will probably just debut another Gen that will do 2digits.

>>70242736
the parasocial fucks was her trying to defend Reimu after chinesesisters were dunking on Vox for a ruined ASMR

>>70242020
Its not that touching grass would help, I think the problem with Finana is that she's probably a naive woman from some suburbs in Middle America, and because she lived in such a nice and peaceful part of the country it just made her an easy mark. She doesn't understand that there are people that would love to take advantage of her generosity or kindness, from the Valoguards to maybe even people like Uki and Enna.

>>70239471
As soon as she starts doing hot ASMR again I will start watching her, best thing she was good at

>>70235960
So truuuuu sister. Keep slaying queen

Why has there been such an obsession with Finana lately?

>>70242492
>meanwhile, niji graph is 9k, when spikes to 16k, then plummets to 11k, then spikes to 19k, then plummetes to 7k, and it keeps going up and down like a heart monitor.
Or youtube antibot measures.

>>70234262
This was one of her biggets fans a year ago posting here

“ Ever since Finana started I stood by her for all her high and lows.
When people were making fun of her for the fart tweet, I gave her a chance
When she only streamed for two hours, I stood by her hoping she will improve
When she gave her romantic advice I made fun of her but I kept watching her
When she stopped interacting with her fans on twitter I still stood by her
When she went two months ignoring her chat after the privated zatsudan I stood by her
When she kept focusing more on gacha I still stood by her
When she cried during a honkai stream from backseaters I still stayed
When she admitted to using her superchat money to buy gifts to her friends I made excuses
When she overslept the minecraft EN opening I stayed there and gave her excuses
When she did the same again for the Yugioh collab I stayed
When she lied to everyone about her trip and invited Uki to an off collab I was annoyed but took her excuses
When she made Pomu’s life a living hell during the whole trip, I had hope she would have learned
When she cried about not being included in fan art I criticized her but again I stayed
When she broke several rules for joining a fan discord and using their voice chat, I warned them, but I stayed
When it was getting obvious she was doing something offstream with her fans I stayed
When she banned the word trap and Futa and went all preachy, I forgave her.
And now that she has made it obvious she created a secret friend group of her fans, while ditching long time members for a twitter group my faith in her is losing. She had possibly less than 60 members watching her yesterday. So I ask, why shouldn’t I switch to a better oshi? how more should I wait for her to get better, when will she get better”

>>70240300
You know what else is fuckef up? That would have being her last ASMR. After that april fool joke she never hinted to another ASMR until she canceled it, literally calling her fans weird

>>70243139
>middle america

She is a mystery meat asian brought up in california, with a nose piercing, colored contacts, and wigger fashion sense. She is the stereotypical braindead 4th wave feminist, like the rest of the females in nijien.
It has nothing to do with getting led astray. She is the stereotypical urbanite diaspora asian.

>>70243377
>literally calling her fans weird
>see Finana... Those guys are weirdos. Perverts and incels, but we - we aren't like them. You better be smart about it and do such things like cock-sucking ASMR only in safe spaces, just saying

>>70240456
>>70240326
>Now they are actually taking their time, gathering up as much evidence and arguments as they can before making the ideally final statement,
If this isn't larp, then tf is wrong with these people?

>>70241599
>unironically a star in Hololive.
She unironically could be a star in Idol EN.

>>70237304
good. disgusting person. niji is the perfect place for her. stay there forever.

Less mentally unhinged take than many others, I think she was too young and unworldly to get into something like niji, especially the first EN gen. Your brain stops developing at like 26.
Many of the problems she has had likely come down to being a silly young girl.
That finance asmr makes for a good nut tho

>>70241599
She was rejected by hololive back in mid 2020 and got accepted to audition for niji back in december 2020.
She was obsessively trying to get close to Mori, Gura, Ame and Ina, even after she'd be rejected by hololive (she got to the finalists), and even though she had passed the niji audition and was slated to join in mid 2021.

Opportunistic and shameless from day 1

>>70234262
I've never watched her and don't intend to start but she's a zoomer and that's more than enough reason for me.

>>70243780
Doki has hurt and keep hurting their egos. They unironically try to sabotage her even now.

I hope Finana never graduates. I hope she stays in NijiEN forever.

>>70244403
Does anyone truly deserve such a vicious curse?

>>70244333
Lots of people get rejected by hololive. All of advent get rejected by hololive. I don't think there's a problem with going for #2, especially since they didn't have a reputation yet in the west. If you get in, you get in.

>>70244403
wow, that's uncalled for
i agree that she's a bad person, but it's not like she personally murdered your parents or something

>>70243780
I think that was a larp for once. There is no fucking way she just outed all the plans Niji has and they are actually thinking of doing a second video. Especially if they can't get Doki to participate in it.
Not that I blame her, they have shown no reason for her to trust them with anything, she could be setting herself up. She's not the one needing to do something here.

>>70244403
>>70244544
I love that this is now a massive insult in vt

>>70244544
She hurt my oshi

>>70244619
Hairy hag butthole...

>>70235806
What's wrong with that? I used to play with the SNES controller upside down, and somehow was the king of gaming in the playground.

>>70244544
I mean, it's actually safe for her to graduate considering her way of life? It sounds like if Vtubing wasn't a thing she would get easily audictioned somewhere, if you get what I mean.
She needs help based on what I read here. Getting someone to actually adjust her life and mindset.

>>70242382
>Finana openly admitting to lying about it and selling it as a "girls night" despite the male being planned all-along
Why does Pomu get off scot-free when it comes to some of this shit?

>>70244719
The meme pic didn't load anon.

>>70234262
no one really dislikes her. she just doesn't matter. she's an NPC. plus being a boring lard ass doesn't help (it's on topic janny, she showed foot pics on stream)

>>70242382
>her infamous "L + Ratio you parasocial fucks" tweet
Do any of these Nijis actually know why people bother with vtubers in the first place?

>>70238787
4chan is just an edge flavored hugbox don't kid yourself

>>70244792
Thanks for your input Elira

>>70236013
Whatever happened to hate the company, not the talents?
>Th-there is a big bad bully
Selen teased the fuck out of Finana and I highly doubt Finana even has the balls to bully anybody.

>>70244713
Correction

>>70245022
Considering the fact that you're still here and not banned, no it's not a hugbox

>>70244607
some vtweeter also pulled the "i hope your indie oshi redebuts at vshojo" that gave me a giggle

>>70245121
Honestly, is any of this even hate? We are discussing with actual receipts. And I'm not saying fuck her, I'm saying she needs help.
That's not an insult, it's a fucking fact.
>>70245022
The only reason this is an hugbox is because people here have no problem shitting and speaking, xer gate themselves because they couldn't stand not having a "hurt my feeling" button.

>>70245275

>>70245121
She was a snake with Zaion

>>70245121
Finana has enough shit in her closet to hate her personally even without her Niji affiliation.

>>70244575
The main reason why people think those posts are authentic is that the whole scenario sounds so stupid that it has to be real. The logic basically amounted to
>Hey Doki, we know we nearly drove you to suicide and we're sorry you felt that way. But we're in a lot of trouble right now and we you need you to do us a favor and bail us out. We know you tried to kill yourself, but we just need to come onto this stream and admit that you were also partially at fault too. Just do it for us so our manager doesn't get fired and so Riku doesn't anally rape our branch after he sees the financial results. After that we TOTALLY promise to let you off the hook, just don't tell your lawyer or anything. kthxbai
It could easily be a silly LARPer, but the sad thing is that with everything NijiEN got up to over the past year, there's also a chance it could have even been a real idea.

>>70234262
1. Tried to prevent people from using a term that frames transgender people as trying to trick people into having sex with them under false pretenses by banning its usage in her chat

2. Made them cum then teased a stream where it was implied she would try to make them cum again, then never showed up, in a way which was essentially making fun of her fanbase for wanting to cum.

3. Lots of gacha game streams

The April Fools prank really soured her for me and I didn't even watch her for her ASMR. She could have REE'd into a microphone at max volume for an hour and that would have left a better impression than literally doing nothing. It really showed how little she thought of her audience(the parasocial fucks funding her).

>>70238950
seems like Finana is retvrning to tradition. Dropping the degeneracy, and getting material support from a small number of high-trust men instead of from a great mass. She's even distancing herself from any need for her black company income.

>>70245714
I actually hope they pull this. Need another 200k subs wipe right at their quarterly earnings call

>>70236621
Not even top fans, most of them weren't exactly notable pre valorant stream. Which caused the paypigs to dip out

>>70246111
Sound like losertalk to me. Sure, you can decide to not play GFE or Lewd, but taking your fans and friend for granted with stupid actions wil lonly left you surrounded by those who are gonna exploit your insecurities.

>>70246178
Which was such a strange decision. How did she even choose who to pick, does she fucking stalk the public discord for marks

>>70241584
I mean they fed her the idea about her trap yab, so...

>>70240330
BTW, this was by far one of the most awkward and unpleasant "collab" stream I saw in long time. They had ZERO chemistry whatsoever, it came to a point where people in thread asked Scarle to blink twice if she's being held at gunpoint.

>>70245714
It could be even worse. The could take for granted that Doki just wants to take the high road and give their version of the story where they take the blame but try to justify themselves too.
One thing out of line and Doki can just say "nope" which will make them look extremely stupid and once again the one causing drama.

>>70246343
Based on what I read here she probably didn't. She seems easy to gaslight. And I'm not talking shit, she literally gave away her audition streams and has constant money problems expecting others to care for her, both serious red flags.

She lived out every stereotype of the young impressionable kid that got groomed into wokeshit by people on discord.

>>70246411
I mean realistically, the odds that it was "The entirety of Nijisanji EN, livers and management alike, were needlessly cruel and intentionally malicious to Selen for no reason whatsoever" are basically zero.
On a level, its pretty obvious that both sides did something wrong. One side was obviously much much more severe than the other (niji) but its unlikely that no one is without fault.
If there is another statement I hope they just tell the truth and apologize. If they want to mention Selen's mistakes it better not be even remotely close to the focal point of the video, just context.

>>70246343
iirc one of them befriended her on free chat, then moved to DMs. And eventually they set up the valorant server for the member stream. I'm assuming that's when she started interacting with the other valoguards before said server was accesible for that member stream.
After said stream she got bonked by management and they moved to a private server causing the yab.

>>70246697
Again, who the fuck cares about Selen's mistakes? No one gives a crap about why she got terminated, the whole issue is NijiEN pushing her to the point of trying to kill herself, and then doubling down.

>>70247102
damn what an apex groomer

>>70247146
That's why I said its not the point. But if you say "X happened because Y" and Y was something Selen did, then you have to mention Y even if it wasn't her making the right decision. Otherwise you aren't telling the truth. But Y should just be mentioned as context to tell the whole truth, not as another hit piece

>>70246697
Everyone understands that telling people to reupload an MV is fireable offense. Had they left it that - then no problem, understandable have a nice day. Personally, the notice of termination was more like a "fuck you, choke on a bag of dicks, we're going to kill your career and your prospects outside of Nijisanji" notice. I was already disgusted by the Zaion termination notice and the consequent procession of character assasination. Then they did it again, exact same MO. That's not professional behaviour. That's petty vindictive behaviour that you find in bitter divorces and girls locker rooms.

>>70247204
Coming from them I wouldn't doubt it's another hit piece.

>>70243377
She doesn't deserve your loyalty anon. I hope you find a better oshi that actually deserves you

>>70247204
They would still be missing the point and coming out as dishonest as fuck. After the black frame stream, no one cares about whatever NijiEN claim Selen did.

Uki thread got deleted while i was typing and i didn't know where to go so let's do it here since this thread is kinda niji shit related?

>>70240620
>>70240122
>Arknights
It was drama with Dream who was later revealed to be a cunt who keeps lying and talking behind people's back. I deep dived in detail into it two years ago and Tectone was in the right back there. His guides sucked, that's for sure, but he was accused of false things. Dream's guides were better but they did contain misinformation that she was correctly called out for. However community took her side because she's a manipulative woman.
>Genshin
He was actually vindicated recently while Atsu and Envi were outed as pathetic snakes and Tectone was right about them being shit people
>PGR
no idea
>pedo stuff
Yes, Tectone was fucking retarded about this stuff. Typical young chara = pedo garbage that most of western internet sadly believes in.
He also is a drama magnet, yes. That doesn't however mean that he's wrong every time drama happens. It's much closer to 50/50.
>He is also divorced after he verbally abused his ex-wife ON stream.
That's a straight up lie.
1) they were already in the process of divorce at that time;
2) it was her stream and her idea to keep talking in stressful situation;
3) that wasn't a reason for their divorce, see 1)

>>70242382
how do we knew that, pomu didn't knew Uki was going to the off collab?

>>70244403
Unironically worse than a death threat

>>70247102
*moved to a private server, but Valoguards had terrible opsec and left receipts (Steam stuff iirc)with the account Finana was using. Which caused everything to escalate.
Some of her top fans managed to catch that and tried an intervention around July, but Feesh sided with Valoguards. causing her decrease in viewership and fan support.

>>70247102
Lmao she is indeed organic dumb slut doujin heroine archetype who fell for most stupid shit and get fucked

>>70247342
https://files.catbox.moe/82wdj7.mp4

>>70247374
So the train they ran on her was that good she threw her whole career away?

>>70247582
More like she's too bad, not train being good lol.

>>70247582
Pretty sure most of them were girls and trannies, so idk

>>70247682
>trannies
Those are famous predators.
>camouflage

>s-s-s-she was groomed!
Man this is like the final cope of you cucks who still secretly want to love her even though you're scorned now. She simply is inherently a bad person if she's going to lie to her parents to hang out with boys and then brag about it on stream >>70242382

>>70246697
FFS please everyone who is still defending Niji finally realize something. The termination is not a problem anymore except for those who actually want drama.
Riku literally went on screen and touched every bad point of the termination. He's an ass who can't spend 150$ for his talents but he's not the idiot when it comes to PR.
Once the Black Video dropped, everyone got only confirmation of the harrassment and problems with it. The rrats were out but were breadcrumbs, and all of a sudden the talents dropped a giant loaf at the center of it.
Anyone who is not a dramafag is pissed off because the silence offers no response, and if people are rallying behind the rrats, is because that's literally how rrats work. Breadcrumbs and reciepes that make more and more sense, constantly re-analyzed. You hate it? Don't scream at the screen, it doesn't work here, 4chan will only clown you as you deserve.

They should not even do a fucking video part 2, just prove their goodwill and actual wish to either move on or get better. Silence at this point is overrated, you fucked up, you are in the middle of the field getting bombarded.
Actually Doki may have served it on a silver platter. A fucking charity. It may be too normie to comprehend, but it's one of the best moment to do goodwill and made up, give all of this shit a positive spin from where to start.
If you expect Doki to risk her skin again by trusting Niji, you are a fool. I wouldn't trust them either, especially if it's only words.
Stop with these "tests" hoping the people will forget, everyone, even those who say don't harrass, hope in some proof of resolution. Don't listen to menhera easter stubborness, it didn't made them win any fucking war ever. A sign of peace is not a sign of weakness.

>>70244403
why did this post get so many (You) and mine didn't get a single one? >>70244025
Fuck you faggots

>>70247754
Like stupid bad person can't be groomed.

>It's because your seething is so fun I'm denying one more (you)

>>70247754
Yeah, she crossed from being a dumbass into the outright malicious territory looking into what she's been pulling. Good thing she's mostly the only one impacted by her own actions.

>>70247754
Retard no one is saying she's a good person. But we are not schizo telling her to hang herself, she should get help rather than keep sinking into bad habits and spiral even more surrounded by people who are just using her.

>>70247221
Even then, in the wake of how Hololive cancelled Mel's termination, its hard not to wish that NijiEN could have handled Selen's termination with the same amount of class. Even something vague like
>Due to a number of creative differents with Anycolor, Selen wished to depart from the company. Though we wished for her to stay, we ultimately have to respect her decision. As such, we have terminated her contract. We wish the best for Selen Tatsuki on future endeavors.
If it were that kind of "Contract Termination" notice, Anycolor really would not have never encountered anywhere near the amount of problems they had. All the rrats would just be people filling in the blanks with wild speculations compared to what happened now.

>>70247867
Sure, but you fags keep framing your posts in a way that imply that she was an innocent good girl who got ruined beyond her control. You're still clinging onto your past perception of her as a good girl and thinking fondly of those days before the evil groomers ruined everything, when in fact what happened was that she simply had more drive to act and fake on stream in the early days then eventually got complacent and stopped giving a shit.
>>70247996
see above

>>70248131
Is this Finana cope?

>>70248131
Honestly, who the fuck knows what she actually was before. But that's doesn't change that someone who thinks "It would be fun to scam people out of money for April Fool" or "let me stop working to hang out with online friends" and expect things to not blow up in their face needs to revaluate their life and seek help.

Finana throwing Zaion under the bus when she was being harassed and doxxed was always proof enough that she is a vile cunt.

>>70248292
No? The pro-Finana cope is saying she was an innocent dindu who was unfortunately groomed by discord, shifting the blame completely onto them. These posts make me cringe so I want to tell you faggots she's always been a bad person at her very core and you're retarded for thinking otherwise.

>>70248422
This starts to feel personal, that's why he called it cope.
And let me reiterare then >>70247996

>>70248382
Damn seriously?

Honestly I still think we have only seen larping but the finana threads are exploding at this point and I'm stopping believing it's a coincidence considering the events.
Someone is clearly asking the board to talk about her.

>>70248668
Are you ESL? I already responded to that. I'm not saying anyone is calling her a good person *now*, I'm saying you're blaming her "becoming a bad person" on groomers, while I'm saying she was always a bad person by nature.

>>70249109
She's fishing for suggestions on how to turn around her channel

Finana, if you're read this thread I'll give you the break down.

You're really boring to watch, not particularly funny, no real personality.
You play the most miserable games to watch ever, Gacha and MMOs mostly and both of them lack entertaining moments for you to riff off of, if you could riff.
Elira can play boring ass JRPGs and get away with it because she's got natural charisma.
The ONLY thing you had going for you was your charming over the top horniness and borderline pathetic masturbation addiction. That drove views. You're a truly spectacular girlfailure, and you don't give yourself any time to show that off. Embrace your true self. The pathetic, MMO, virgin you were meant to be, and ascend.

>>70234262
I'll make a hundred shill posts for her if she does more dick sucking ASMR. With her parents in the background.

>>70249303
if she's using /here/ as market research then oh boy she's got bigger problems than i thought. For every 1000 posts/suggestions she might get 1 useable one, 2 semi coherent ones and the rest are rampant shitposts.

>>70249337
Mr. ESL, why did you go so hard on this?

>>70249440
I think most people already caught on to how she treats her remaining audience as a quick buck to fuel her gachashit addiction, changing her content at this point won't do much if her personality remains like that.

>>70249440
As you said, she probably has better places to get advice from so why come here at all? Simple, because she didn't like what she heard there and she won't like what she's going to see here. While she's only willing to listen to what she wants to hear she's a lost cause.

>>70248131
>you fags
Ok, Finana, you can justify your unwillingness to change with you always being an evil creature all you want, some people will still have hope for you.

Ryuguards are one of the few fan factions that might be classified as "anti-Niji" while their oshi is not only still in Niji but part of the Elira Clique.
Why? Because their faith is lost and their position has been usurped by the so-called Valoguards.

>>70249833
>being such a cuck that he can't accept that his past oshi was evil from the start and had him duped for a good while
Ok, cuck, you can keep jerking off to the thought about how you "could have saved her".

Ok fuck it, massive rrat incoming.
Disclaimers: fuck Niji, fuck Yachphile Riku, fuck the Clique, fuck Nijisis.

>Niji is sinking. Thr worse has stopped but they need something to get back on track.
>They know attacking Doki is only gonna do worse to themselves.
>They don’t want to take the goodwill/apology route because it will make them look weak.
>Only route left to not clown themselves, scapegoat.
>Clique is untouchable. If one quit they all quit and murder NijiEN with thr massive bleed.
>Solution: Finana.
>Majority of fans hate her attitude, alienated them in the past, fucked around and found out too much.
>Merch doesn’t sale, numbers are worse than indies. Literal deadweight.
>Factual proof she doxxed Sayu and bullied her. For a fact either bullied Doki or was pressured into joining in.
>Gen 1 sempai so people will believe she has power.
>Everyone will eat it except the board, they know about the clique.
>Niji are lurkers, thet know how shit works.
>Start a lot of shitpost about Finana, fed her false plans and that the board hates her.
>Have only her stream more regularly so it looks weird.
>Make sure to feed the posts and bump her so all her menhera stuff is now in the mind of everyone.
>Then scapegoat the shit out of her, she IS guilty and she is confirmed evil, the board can feast on it, normies can feast on it.
>Graduate her, have Gen 2 get all their dreams solved and graduate pacefully.
>Restructure EN with Elira Dainsempai and Hanamori the new “Gen 2”.

>>70249752
Like any other girl, she craves for attention be it positive or negative, maybe the latter is even preferrable as it allows her to vent out and through arguing with anons convince herself that she has done nothing wrong.

>>70249939
You've never been my oshi.

>>70249939
Saved from what, i want your cock sucking ASMR and maybe public use video you stupid bitch.

>>70240289
Are you illiterate? They're talking about Finana in that statement.

>>70248131
Don't self-depreciate that hard, it's unironically very sad.

>>70250018
I don't know about the giant conspiracy but I do think the surge in Finana threads are connected to the current events. At the very least I think it's just fans of the clique/Uki trying to deflect attention away from their oshi.

>>70234262
She's disliked on this board, but the stuff people have been talking about only upset former viewers. She called the fans of Vox that were sending Reimu death threats parasocial fucks, and they took this personally for some reason. They were upset that she told them not to call transsexuals traps. Along with telling them to educate themselves, which is extra offensive to them. She also stopped doing coomer ASMR because of the reactions she was getting and the trouble Vox was getting into at the time for doing that kind of thing. They whined and whined about how she wouldn't do dicksucking ASMR anymore, which was the only thing they watched. This escalated until she put up a succubus ASMR stream reservation on April Fools day, and made people wait a few hours before she went online and said April Fools.

Her viewership is a bit worse over time, but the thing about her losing her paypigs is very true. But there definitely aren't enough former ryuguards to be making and sustaining all these anti threads.

>>70250018
Nah, there is no reason to keep the deadweight of Finana in the company all this time just to throw her under the bus to save the company. If anything, I think her still being in Niji did more harm than good for the branch. Also this would be the final nail in the coffin of LazuLight and I don't believe they are ready to wipe out the last traces of their first wave.

>>70250018
Given everything that has happened until now with NijiEN, this sounds like something that could be close to the truth...

>>70249440
If Finana hasn’t figured out the solution is to stop spamming debuff gacha games, she’ll never get it. For all the shitposts out there, that part of the message has always been unambiguous.

>>70250018 (me)
And I just realized something:
>Niji are lurkers.
>They know about LK/could have self-reported with LK to literally have the board analyze their plan.
>The karaoke stream was the original “big back collab”.
>They tested the water, still too many people wanting the truth.
>Go on with the karaoke…but set it up to fail.
>No Vox, No Elira, No Enna, No Rosemi.
>Self buy bots to fuck it with spikes.
>Sync it with Doki.
>Everyone sees it for what it looks like, a direct attack, except it’s a fucking mess on purpose.
>Who’s the oldest in it? Finana.
>She is scapegoated into the one who tried to fuck with Doki, more proof.

>>70250018
>Factual proof she doxxed Sayu and bullied her. For a fact either bullied Doki or was pressured into joining in.
And then Doki deny it.
Truly, plan fitting for NijiEN braincell.

>>70250615
nah, I don't think changing her content will make her stop driving people away out of spite

>>70250507
>Lazulight.
Pomu is probably auditioning elsewhere, fuck if I know where, not the thread. Finana, look at this thread. Elira, suspected monster.
What is there to save? The best way to save Lazulight is to toss all the shit to one member so the other can come out as the Daisempai. And between Elira and Finana, we know who Niji is gonna save.

>>70250660
It's time for meds anon

>>70248382
There is a lot of evidence now that she's not the dumb inocent girl the unicorns think she is, just look at the fucking archives man, I rarely see someone stupid enough to hate their fan this much and still expect people to love her.

>>70250660
If that's true then why would Finana go along with it or, at the very least, not drop a leak to convince people she's being set up. You might have something with the first rrat but this shit is way too far fetched

>>70249440
Any functional human being can filter the shitpost from actual good advice, isn't hard when you have a brain.

>>70250782
It would be very hard to switch the blame from the hero of the black stream to the person who, no matter how bad she is in general, has nothing to do with the whole drama whatsoever.

>>70250782
>we know who Niji is gonna save.
Vox

>>70234262
Disappointment is a powerful emotion.

>>70250690
You really believe even if Finana good she would not peer pressure into following the clique. That Doki is gonna stick her neck into that shit if Finana bullied her, even if not the boss? That would be exaclty what she doesn’t want, drama.

>>70250761
NTA, I agree with you. It has more to do with how she acts than what with she plays. As several others have pointed out in other threads, Sayu plays gachas too and she is in a better position than Finana viewerwise.

>>70239396
kek

>>70250869
Eh the second is a but more farfetched, yes. But quite honestly noghing in this thread convinces me that is hard to convince Finana to join without her suspecting anything.

>>70249337
>You're a truly spectacular girlfailure, and you don't give yourself any time to show that off.
Fans do love girlfailures so is not a bad advice.

>>70250909
What she will 100% do - state that this shit they trying to push - set up.
Even one post with vague "it's not that and it wasn't that person" will SMASH any remaining of Nijishit.

>>70250869
But what if Elira spins it that she stuck her neck to protect her gen mate? That “look at her, we let her act free and she only makes a worse mess, you wanted me to have her talk? I had to protect her” or some fucking shit like that.

>>70234262
Cucking ryuguards with kyo.

>>70250441
The trap comment was stupid, but for the rest of the stuff you're right. Also the paypigs jumped ship when the Valoguard controversy came out. She also follows the Valoguards because she has PL "friends" within there. Same "friends" which leaked her dox including her fetish chart when she was debuting btw, oh and she got caught crawling back to them countless times after management told her to knock that shit off.

>>70250811
Not supporting this random rrat, but do you really think Finana would even be able to tell she's being set up? They'll tell her to walk off the edge of a cliff and she'll take a running jump.

>>70251168
You know, actually the dumber the idea is, the more likely they will try to implement it. At any rate, all we can do is sit and wait for the next act of this drama.

>>70251090
Ok, but I must point out all the other plans we heard have the same fallacy, so it doesn’t completely deny the rrat. And even if it sounds farfetched, it’s the FIFTH “Finana sucks” thread in less than 3 days, and we did say she is not involved as others. It’s deflection, but can easily be deflection with a purpose.

>>70251168
Schizo theory time: If that comes to happen, Finana's doxx may drop on the sistersite the same way Zaion's did.

>>70251332
Perfect domestic abuse victim lol.
>>70251413
Just Occam it.
Threads could be just clique venting their menstruation.

>>70251413
>it’s the FIFTH “Finana sucks” thread in less than 3 days
Not our fault that she likes to visit them and fan the flames even further.

>>70251332
>fetish chart
elaborate

>>70251433
But that’s just thr thing. She burned ALL the bridges. Zaion didn’t had time to build hers.
On a matter of credibility, they are on the same level. It took a voice as big as Selen for Zaion to finally be trusted by everyone.

Finana, if you read this, make a post in Twitter disproving our rrats. Show us that you're innocent!

>>70251531

>>70251577
…what in the fuck is that?

>>70245059
hurrrrr so original and witty

>>70251577
>interracial
>cuckold

>>70251630
Never saw tag tier list streams?

>>70245121
Calling someone silly shit on-stream as banter isn't bullying you moron. Telling someone to kill themselves in private when they're already in a fragile state however is. (a la Vox.)

WELL WELL NO WONDER YOU ARE /HERE

>>70251558
Yeah that is why I wrote the theory. They may try to attack her when she's feeling at her lowest. There's pattern of them doing this already.

>hurrrrr so original and witty

>>70251982
jej

>>70247356
Pomu obviously knew. She was there in person. But it was Finana's idea and she brought him, which ended up putting a lot of heat on Pomu.

>>70234262
/vt/ pretends to like retards and autists until they start acting retarded and autistic

>>70252004
If they try this I will swear off meds for the remainder of the year.

Bijou has rendered her obsolete.

>>70249303
We gave her an entire massive thread of letters to work with. I don't know what else we could do. Yeah, we're coping, but we're coping because that first bit of her was good enough that we don't care if she was faking it, it'd be nice to see it again.

>>70242382
one of the worst parts too was noctyx (even at the rate nijiEN was shitting out organs wtf 26 in under a year) was fairly new and most people didn't know Uki was incredibly gay yet unless they watched him play mc with pomu

>>70251045
That's only if you flanderize yourself the the point of coming across as brain damaged.
Most people aren't that good at acting, or won't out of self respect.
Not to mention you'll be constantly called out for reinforcing sexist tropes.

>>70250018
we are so back schizo bros
No, but seriously I have no idea how they even make money now. most their sponsors have pulled out....

>>70253140
>most their sponsors have pulled out
A bunch of etsy pages posting official looking announcements about renouncing nijien doesn't actually affect the talent's profits. They only lost 1 real sponsor, and that's just because the owner or something of HYTE is doki's friend

>>70251760
anon, she's an asian girl living in the west, having a white bf at some point is practically expected

>>70240330
>Allegedly, immediately after Scarle had a members stream and cried for an hour.
The thread discussing that members stream had multiple anons confirm that she was sniffly and mute crying for about 15-20 minutes before moving on to do her normal stuff. Notably she clearly wasn't bawling her eyes out.

>>70234262
I don't, every day I fuck a fish while Diamond City Lights plays

>>70241529
She doesn't make enough money any more to afford a manager to babysit her. Half of EN couldn't afford a part time minimum wage manager any more.

>>70241953
>is that why last two gens can't broach 3view combined?
Claude is a 4view by himself, Kunai and Vivi are a 4 view combined. Hex, Vanta, and Wilson are all 4view.

>is that why a 10-liver offcollab surprise karaoke couldn't broach 4view without botting, and lost to a random helldivers doki stream?
They were solidly 4view, they couldn't break 5view without botting if we're assuming they were botting.

>Phase connect had almost double the median ccv per talent so far in 2024, and they are even beating nijien in superchat revenue.
That's wrong even with Pippa's lift. Dunno about superchats. 2/3rds of Niji English talents are 4views. Out of the 6 or so Phase talents that are 4views only 2 are significantly above 1k flat.
At current growth and decay rates I predict this being true around May.

I'm all for shitting on Nijisanji, but my numbers autism is stronger.

>>70254398
aren't luca and shu huge or something?

>>70254774
They were (lower) Hololive tier in 2022, they dropped ~1.5k in 2023, in Jan 2024 they were 2k below their 2023 average. They were once huge, now they're 2-3 CCV.
Pippa is beating the entire Nijisanji roster by ~1k CCV.

>>70255064 (me)
now they're 2-3k CCV

>>70236621
b-but I thought parasocial fucks bad???

>>70251760
>redditfrog
yeah seems about right

>>70253234
>for now
There are better corpos that are not as radioactive as niggersanji, why risk getting hit when you have better and safer options.

>>70237304
>the average wagie earns more per hour
it trully is owari da

>>70238026
green woman's ring? how curious

>>70256012
yes but fucking parasocials good.

>>70241442
seriously though, her best hope is to not be 2 view in half a year. Good luck with that Fianan.