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Why do they hate Hololive and love cockblocking them out of almost every game?

>> No.70199723

Gotta let their vtubers have some exclusive games just like they had to keep some away from Microsoft back in the day

>> No.70199878

>>70199466
>sony-exclusive games
such as?

>> No.70199921

>>70199878
Helldivers 2

>> No.70199950

>>70199878
>Bloodborne
>God of War
>FF7R
and now
>Helldivers 2

>> No.70199973

>>70199466
Riku bribing them most likely

>> No.70199977

>>70199723
Even the prism girls can't play some sony games.

>> No.70199985

>>70199466
Its Snoy California and SIE that hate Japan and everything Japanese. They are pozzed and Amerimutt'd to the core. They are pretty much an anti-Japan machine

Sony pictures seem to love them. Miko and some other holomems often get invited to movie previews. I still hate Sony though.

>> No.70200003

>>70199878
Talladega Nights 2, starring Debra Wilson.

>> No.70200016

>>70199466
They're already hemmorhaging money and employees.
They probably don't want to be associated with vtubers, since normalfags don't know the difference between the corpos.

>> No.70200046

This is the price we pay for palworld.

>> No.70200071

>>70199977
Well that's just fuckin embarrassing

>> No.70200136
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>>70199950
>>70199921
Are you guys funning me?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/

>> No.70200196

>>70200136
Look at the publisher anon

>> No.70200199
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>>70200136
retard

>> No.70200198

no games

>> No.70200249

>>70200136
Sony-exclusive doesn't mean Playstation-exclusive, anon. It means Sony won't give perms.

>> No.70200268

>>70200196
But it's not an exclusive.

>> No.70200283

>>70199950
FF7 remake is only square enix tho so they can play it still

>> No.70200293

>>70199950
didnt botan played GOW a while back?
and also I haven't seen niji members play helldivers yet aswell.
I heard biboo is asking for perms for it.

>> No.70200330

>>70200268
doesn't matter, biboo said sony perms are gone regardless, she already asked for helldivers

>> No.70200372

>>70199466
Because Hololive is a Microsoft exclusive partner.

>> No.70200375

>>70200330
did she give any reason why?

>> No.70200409

>>70200375
she said same reason as bloodborne and god of war and demon souls

>> No.70200442

>>70199950
>>70199466
Look at Doki stream with 2 homostars, they dont even play the game. Theyre just fucking around making the game look bad. I dont think En chubbas even try.

>> No.70200505

>>70200409 (me)
no reason why no sony perms tho, i don't think she can mention sony directly

>> No.70200507

>>70200442
It is bad, but that's what makes it fun.
Like Lethal Company, Palworld, et al.

>> No.70200614

>>70199466
the long and short of it that it doesn't seem like any game primarily published by them has a straight "yeah, you can stream this under X, Y and Z conditions", like anywhere. It's intentionally left ambiguous so they can pull the rug out under anyone they don't like. Cover only goes this far because they want 100% confirmation that their talent got the right to stream and monetize stream, so wishy-washy bullshit like this is a massive turn off.

>> No.70200658

>>70199466
Let snoy die already. I can't believe asshats still buy anything from them.

>> No.70201299

Snoy is also a vtuber company, cover is their rival.

>> No.70201533

>>70199977
>some sony retard buys a v-tuber company
>sets up delays for other anime girls
>forgets about prism so they never get anything special
>all that remains is a system to deny/delay permissions for various v-tuber companies

>> No.70201961

>>70199466
oh no what'll we do without hololive playing sonyslop.
I for one am glad sony doesn't play ball with perms. their games are shit and we're all better off without a 'spiderman 2' arc.

>> No.70202012

>>70199466
which corpo has sony perms?

>> No.70202107
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>>70202012
not sure about helldivers but the nijis that would be willing to play it might still be in hiding

>> No.70202139

>>70202012
Phase and vshojo have played helldivers

>> No.70202150

>>70200614
Literally this. I doubt they reply to any request for perms either. Probably requires someone at your Japanese company knowing someone at their Japanese company to hang out at an Izakaya to get perms.

>> No.70202248

>>70201961
i don't care about most other sony perms but i just want to see biboo play bloodborne and demon souls

>> No.70202392

>>70200614
Yup.
https://arrowhead.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018860353-Streaming-Permissions

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>>70199466
Geez, I wonder why

>> No.70202465

>>70202435
>5.313%

>> No.70202519
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70202519

>PC gamers can play Sony games
>VShojo and indies can play Sony games
>other companies apparently cannot

>> No.70202578

>>70202107
god she has such a good design.

>> No.70202589

>>70202139
They aren't jp so no terminal autism gov to kneel to.

>> No.70202635

>>70202519
Not based in japan
Too small to be worth the negative press of corporaping

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>>70199466
https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/ANYCOLOR-INC-137315116/company/

>> No.70202650

>Sony is literally invested in Nijisanji
>they instead focus on their own failed pet projects rather than in saving Rosemi and Petra from Riku

>> No.70202707

>>70202635
Don't think Sony can do anything about Western Twitch streamers playing their games.

>> No.70203341

>>70199466
Why do tourists not know the reason for Cover's permission autism?
Was the holocaust really that long ago?

>> No.70203391

>>70199466
They don't engage in permissions autism. Just play the game. Nothing will happen. But JP corpos have gotten it in their heads that they need to get written permission for literally everything.
>but but but
No. Shut up about copyright trolls. If they were really a problem, they would be claiming VODs regardless if you had that written permission or not. YouTube isn't going to ding your channel for a provably falsified claim. And that's exactly what copyright trolls are: falsified claims. And I know about the Holocaust. Permissions autism is an overreacting to a very bad event.

>> No.70203432

>>70203391
>No. Shut up about copyright trolls. If they were really a problem, they would be claiming VODs regardless if you had that written permission or not. YouTube isn't going to ding your channel for a provably falsified claim.
How new are you?

>> No.70203451

>>70203341
Yes and No they are too lazy to find out why perm exist but just want to shit on JP Corpo

>> No.70203473

>>70203432
How dumb are you? Do you think the only streamers on the planet are Nijis and Holos and I guess VSPO also engages in permissions autism. Do you know there are streamers far bigger than any Niji or Holo with a much bigger target on their back for malicious actors?

>> No.70203479

>>70202707
They can, copyright works the same everywhere. Back when Persona 5 came out Atlus JP were wading through Twitch with a copyright strike machine gun, dozens of people got banned for weeks for streaming it

>> No.70203652

>>70203341
Yes it was.
There isn't exactly a deep lore book and it's hard to watch 110 streamers and six years of content much of which got removed so it's a detective job piecing it together from indirect references in entirely unrelated content.

>> No.70203667

>>70203391
>Nothing will happen
>Holocaust happened
>Nothing going to happen this time really just lower your guard
Are you retarded?

>> No.70203721

>>70203667
>Permissions autism is an overreacting to a very bad event
If you're going to (You) me again with another dumb thought
>Permissions autism is an overreacting to a very bad event

>> No.70203950

>>70203721
You argument is basically
>Getting rob is just one time thing everyone else don't got rob it safe
And you call me dumb

>> No.70204065

>>70199466
>out of almost every game?
good thing sony has no games

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>>70199466
Jeez i wonder why

>> No.70204610

>>70201299
See>>70199977

>> No.70205120

>>70203479
>copyright works the same everywhere
it literally doesn't, retard

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>>70199466
not again, SONY

>> No.70205965

>>70202637
wth are they doing

they bet on the wrong horse too with bungie

>> No.70206061

>>70200442
It's bad fun, therefore good

>> No.70206207

>>70203479
>copyright works the same everywhere.
Wrong retard

>> No.70206292

>>70204169
holy shit

>> No.70206989

>>70199466
because sony has it's own vtuber group you stupid fag, it doesn't matter if they are popular or not it's theirs.

open your fag mouth and choke on this spoon.

https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/VEE

>> No.70207185

>>70205120
>>70206207
For video game streams it does. Even in countries that have fair use, that only covers sufficiently transformative derivative works, and the opinion of Twitch and YouTube is that streaming a video game doesn't meet that bar. If a publisher wants to copyright strike your stream, they can.

>> No.70207937

>>70203652
It’s called doing your reps

>> No.70208158

>>70207937
Can you uh, go to work for me so I can spend the next 40 years watching vods that are now deleted? fucking retard.

>> No.70210345

>>70208158
You don't need to watch the VODs to know why they were deleted anon. Here's your quick history lesson, anyway:
Capcom copyright striked Mio twice, and as a result Cover adopted a policy of only streaming games where they have a signed legal agreement from the publisher that they can stream them without that happening. This was proven to be the correct approach after Mages copyright striked a holostar for streaming one of their games, and Cover counterclaimed and got it reversed with the permissions fax, leading to the dev having to publicly formally apologise (twice, because they spelled his name wrong the first time).

>> No.70210484

>>70204169
Bring up the full list. I want to see if ol' Tencent is one of them.

>> No.70210588

>>70207185
>For video game streams it does
it's not. Copyright laws are different for each country, and Youtube abides by the law of whatever country it is in.
Thing is, they rather not make streams that could be blocked in multiple, if not the majority of the countries their fanbase are.

>> No.70210657

Sony is Anycolor's biggest stockholder after Riku.
It's not rocket science.

>> No.70210661

>>70208158
This hobby is not for you. How do you think historians know about the history of humans? Do you think they moan because they don't have VODs from thousands of years ago, and even if there was, they can't possibly watch it all?

>> No.70210756

>>70210657
Sony owns Prism and they don't give them perms either. It's not about competition, they just don't.

>> No.70210911

>>70210588
The US is the most permissive regime for copyright, and the general consensus there is that fair use would not cover video game streams because just adding commentary for entertainment purposes is not sufficiently transformative.
This hasn't been tested in court, but that's because Google and Amazon effectively get to make that decision before it gets there, and they say it's not (and their lawyers are certainly paid well enough to make a reasonable guess).
Most other countries either don't have fair use at all (e.g. Japan) or define it too narrowly to apply to video game streams (e.g. in most of Europe it only applies to journalism and education).

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>>70199466
Uh???

>> No.70212634

>>70210661
Historians collaborated to cut the shit out. I'm one person and you're bitching I should watch ten billion hours from 130 different vtuber's superchat readings because of the microscopic fraction of oblique mentions that actually have something of importance. Do you know how ridiculous you sound? You pulled the ladder up after yourself.

>> No.70212683

>>70202392
What fucking horseshit
>Permissions to play? Nah, we don't give those out man. But we don't do anything to 99% of people making videos
>This could change in the future though haha wink wink :^)

>> No.70212854

>>70199466
Sony are the Nijisanji of video game platform holders

>> No.70212882

>>70199466
Dramafags BTFO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7ns298sSqE

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>>70201533
>bough the PRISM girls after they already released their own Sony sponsored vtubers

>> No.70214068

>>70210345
Footnotes:
>It was later confirmed in one of the JP boards that some JPNijifans whistleblowed Mio's stream. Hilariously, Capcom didn't give a shit about them nor Mio.
>Crapcom still decided to shit on Mio to make an example of her, the bastards even dared to ask Cover to be thankful that they could have third strike'd Mio and pretty much kill her, but they didn't.
>It was enough to scare the other companies at the time to also seek perms, however a lot of them didn't publicly announced doing so, anykara being one of them. Only reasons why it became know was because a lot of the jp nijis talked about it out loud, unbeknown to them it was supposed to be a secret

>> No.70214435

>>70199466
Western companies are retarded with perms for some reason, and Playstation has been a western company for quite some time now, they only have 2 studios in Japan and all of the powerful people are either yuros or american.

>> No.70217043

>>70199466
They are based

>> No.70217088

>>70199466
Sony just hates everything

>> No.70217099

>>70199466

>> No.70221087

>>70199466
proofs?

>> No.70221357

>>70199466
They have their own vtubers to play it

>> No.70221618

>>70199466
Eventually, they'll lay off enough people and cancel enough projects that something will change. Surely.

>> No.70223753

I stopped caring about sony games when they went woke and started censoring everything and pushing ThE mESsaGE

>> No.70224824

>>70214068
The funniest part of the whole saga is a few years later Capcom have a really good relationship with Cover and keep sponsoring them

>> No.70226139

>>70212634
>Historians collaborated to cut the shit out
Yes, and all the information you need is readily available to you. You know what Historians did not do? Babysit a retard that can't use google.

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