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Somehow, Elira returned

>> No.70178056

This deserved a thread, why

>> No.70178266

>>70178056
Because

>> No.70178423

china won

>> No.70178986

>>70177886
She fucked Riku while in Japan. Easy fix.

>> No.70179145
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THEY FLY NOW?

>> No.70179144

>>70177886
End of suspension kek

>> No.70179221

>>70179145
lol

>> No.70179311

You want AIDS read the QRTs
Fuck dramafags

>> No.70179410

>>70179145
whoever is writing that rentry probably knows ALL about those but nothing outside of lore would look good for le positivity

>> No.70179822

>>70179145
KEK

>> No.70179898

>>70177886
This makes holokeks seethe

>> No.70179946

>>70179311
What are you talking about, the qrts are based

>> No.70179965

>>70179145
These are Elira's remaining fans for the record

>> No.70180082

>>70178056
Because OP missed the 15 ones we already discussed this.
>>70177886
It’s a skinwalker. Generic retweet of popular stuff that aligns with liver.
Forgot to even put a like under it and it was gone. They are testing the waters.

>> No.70180084

>>70179946
>griftoids whose oshi is falseyed pretending to care
>based

>> No.70180136

A disruption in communication can only mean one thing: termination.

>> No.70180163

>>70180082
Meds

>> No.70180177

>>70178266
did i need to pay you fucking DLC for your next lines?

>> No.70180476

>>70179145
What is this? Kek

>> No.70180521

>dramafucks' queen tells them not to harass others
>they do it anyways
>they also spout retarded /x/ theories
Never change, grifting fucks

>> No.70180523

>>70180084
>shitting on nijisanji
>not based
Do nijisisters really?

>> No.70180575

>>70180521
Ah I love the smell of nijiseethe in the morning

>> No.70180583

>>70180476
sisters book of love
https://rentry.org/loveforthenijisanjienlivers

>> No.70180592

>>70180523
Your oshi is Falseyed. You don't watch VTubers. Your recent interest in Doki is only because your favorite dramatuber told you that you had to support her even though she told you tourists not to harass anyone.

>> No.70180666
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>Pokemon is the popular thing at this moment in time so "I" must tweet about Pokemon

>> No.70180669

>>70180592
Yes I know I'm based, you didn't need to suck my cock this hard

>> No.70180690

>>70180575
>nijiseethe
No I'm just tired of you dramaniggers flooding the board with your bullshit. This is a dead horse you keep beating.

>> No.70180699

>>70180521
ah yes the sister book of grudge never happened

>> No.70180724

>>70180690
Funny that sounds just like what a seething nijinigger would say

>> No.70180792

>>70180669
You're also under 18 years old and shouldn't be posting here, Junior

>> No.70180806

>>70179311
Reading the qrts cured my cancer

>> No.70180935

>>70180699
Your queen literally told you not to harass anyone.
>>70180724
A grudge that you vicariously hold?

>> No.70180949

>>70180792
If I'm under 18 why are you licking my balls this hard?

>> No.70180963

>>70180163
Thank you, she’s still not here after talking it. At least Rosemi streamed.

>> No.70181001

>>70180935
We don't take marching orders from Doki

>> No.70181103

>>70180935
I'm sorry which part of the past month convinced you that we are bound to Doki's wishes in any way, shape or form?

>> No.70181143

>>70180935
>Admitting she’s a queen.
Ah, the unraveling of a nijisjs seething is always funny.

>> No.70181155

>>70181001
Worse, you take marching orders from Falseyed and Depressed Nousagi.

>> No.70181257

>>70181103
Because you're just an edgy 40 year old grifter from Kiwifarms who can't act his age

>> No.70181317

>>70181155
No actually, if anything they are the ones taking marching orders from us and the information we so graciously deliver to their doorsteps

>> No.70181324

>>70181155
>Contradicting themselves because you are taling only Ls.
More please.

>> No.70181387

>>70181317
>WE R LEGUN

>> No.70181403

>>70181257
Oh I'm sorry is the all out war getting a little too hot for your fragile nijisister feelings?

>> No.70181502

>>70181403
Sir, this is a Wendy's

>> No.70181501

>>70181387
This but unironically

>> No.70181595

>>70181501
You have to be literally 12 years old. If you're not, I feel sorry for you.

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>>70180592
My oshi nearly fucking died because of your evil company. You don't get to tell us what we can and can't support. What doki said is one thing, but these are people who've shown NO remorse about what they did to Doki or Sayu, and have absolutely no plans to change. They need to be held accountable for this trash to stop them from doing it again.

>> No.70181706

>>70181501
>The no u.
We are so close people, one left!

>> No.70181765

>Mass exodus of anyone that isn't a seanig or chink
>this must be [dramatuber]/kiwifarm's doing!
Do sisters really believe this?

>> No.70181835

>>70181610
>but these are people who've shown NO remorse about what they did to Doki or Sayu, and have absolutely no plans to change
You never even gave them a chance to apologize because "words don't mean shit." The ensuing actions? Oh well that's just "damage control." "Manipulative" is what you fags think apologies are. It's blood you want, nothing else.

>> No.70181868

I take my marching orders from Mumei and Mumei would murder this Elira bitch

>> No.70181901

>>70181765
They don’t even get dramatubers take from the board, not the opposite. Always lurking and breaching.

>> No.70181976

>>70181502
Do you serve nijisister tears? I'm thirsty

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>>70181835
They literally had a chance to apologize right as the heat was dying down and nobody wanted to fight them anymore. Remember?

>> No.70182000

>>70180592
I learned about Dominfrom my fav dramatubers, NijisanjiEN and Elira

>> No.70182036

>>70181835
>COPIUM!
Bingo! And the extra tile of self-believing they didn’t waste 15 minute of a black screen and only self-reported when a sorry would have avoided 2 weeks of no streams.

>> No.70182092

>>70181983
>They literally had a chance to apologize right
Did they? cause it seems that nijisanji has no interest in doing so

>> No.70182125

>>70181868
BASED BASED BASED

>> No.70182126

>>70180521
Finana pls go back to ur asmrs

>> No.70182163

>>70181983
>as the heat was dying down
You banished them literally the day after

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>>70181835
In my opinion I do not think it's a form of apology

>> No.70182264

>>70182163
For very good reason.

>> No.70182275

>>70182036
They haven't spoken since the 2nd day of the termination. They got caught with a horseshit apology, now they're all dead.

>> No.70182296

>>70177886
IMPOSSIBLE SHE SURVIVED THE BAREBACK SEX FROM THE UGLY BASTARD

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>>70182163
Gee I can't imagine why. Couldn't be because they didn't actually apologise and that video was a continuation of their ill thought out smear campaign, right sis?

>> No.70182406

>>70182163
Yes, because they asked for a round 2 in a 15 minute video of self-reports. They literally fed the rrats themselves.

Just as you are still posting while being clowned, they acted like retarded.

>> No.70182422

>>70182163
>you
Who is this you? Was it /vt/ that generated a shitstorm so large that even the major normalfag streamers were shittalking Niji?

>> No.70182427

my doctor said i had a fatty liver i told him no because selen was already terminated

>> No.70182473
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>>70181835
Are you a literal Niggerfaggot you retard? Was it Doki who made a 15 minute slander video? Those fucking nijiniggers can't help themselves but double down on harassment, they have NO desire to apologize for anything. If anything, they cry about getting called out for their bullshit. They soiled their bed and now they don't want to sleep in it.
Holy shit, this level of cognitive dissonance makes me think your literally, please excuse my phrasing, a woman.

>> No.70182497

Elira's reputation here was mostly clean up until the black screen stream.
The bitch deserves nothing but scorn.

>> No.70182552

>>70182497
The nijisisters seethe when confronted with the truth

>> No.70182563

>>70182163
That stream was a direct fucking attack. It was confirmation that they not only had no intention of apologizing, but that they also how fucking malicious management could be, completely confirming the bullying allegations as well. Doki could literally drop dead of a heart attack tomorrow and it wouldn't stop me from hating your black hearted friends and their employers, sister. This is all on them.

>> No.70182583

>>70181835
So what's stopping them now? What's stopping Elira from doing a stream right now admitting that she misappropriated her pseudo management privileges to promote herself over other talents, the clique from admitting that they hyperventilated from joy at the news of Selen's attempted suicide, etc?
That's right, the clique CAN'T fully apologize because doing so would incriminate them. They can only vaguely and manipulatively shit out a half-apology and their ego won't allow them to do it anyway.
It really shouldn't take much effort to see why anons want the Niji EN clique to crash and burn.

>> No.70182608

>>70182422
Ah right, the hacker known as 4chan, the true writer of a termination letter in which we needlessy cited bullying and harrassment. That then got confirmed by Niji repeatedly.

>> No.70182620

>>70182092
They had a chance to apologize.
That they instead chose to double down does not negate the fact that they had the opportunity to apologize, or even to just be as neutral as possible and say something like "Selen got fired for telling fans to violate Niji IP, the remaining livers thank you for your continued support."

Kinda like how that one Scots guy who built bridges and walls and piers had a chance to not fuck that one goat.

>> No.70182629

>>70182473
>They soiled their bed and now they don't want to sleep in it.
I find these claims absolutely laughable, because this drama is eventually going to die and they will just stream again and everything will be and dandy. You cant cancel a streamer. OG fans do not give a fuck about any of this and will continue to sub and spend money on them.

>> No.70182637

>>70181835
>You never even gave them a chance to apologize
But they never did apologize anon, they doubled and tripled down on smearing Dokibird, and then came the hitlits, the fake PR and the Niji Family cringe.

This is why the things you built do not last, because you craft them out of lies.

>> No.70182652

>>70182351
I think they apologized it was just very poorly done.
>>70182473
>they have NO desire to apologize for anything
Because you now keep telling them they shouldn't or it's too fucking late.

>> No.70182747

>>70182620
They literally read a script direct from the company. Its very clear that nijisanji wants zero actual apologies and would rather burn bridges then try anything else. They don't allow people to speak their own mind there.

>> No.70182749

>>70182583
>So what's stopping them now
You telling them they're not allowed to anymore?

>> No.70182762

>>70182629
Subscription, ccw and donation trends show otherwise anon, did you fail math in school? is that why you run around here using your loyalty to a corporation as a personality?

>> No.70182764

>>70182652
Do you apologize by throwing rocks?

>> No.70182783

>>70181595
Your pity means nothing, especially since you can't stop saying it while crying

>> No.70182793

>>70182629
Funny thing is, this dumpster fire will literally haunt them for the rest of their careers, if they will even have any.

>> No.70182910

>>70182762
A temporary dip is utterly fucking meaningless. This isn't the first time a streamer has been cancelled, they get blowback for a month or two and then continue on. Christ people are so god damn ignorant of this industry. These fuckers never actually get punished.

>> No.70182953

>>70182629
>Obliterating your reputation in the west is fine and dandy

>> No.70182955

>>70182629
> OG fans do not give a fuck about any of this and will continue to sub and spend money on them.
so true but it will also make their growth stagnant

>> No.70182957

>>70182749
>>70182652
They had almost a full year to apologize to Sayu for going scorched earth on her career over blatant favoritism. What stopped them? Nobody was telling them they couldn't apologize to Sayu, right?


Fuck why am I even entertaining this. I keep praying that these are actual ignorant bitches instead of sisters with no intention on leaving Vox's midget cock.

>> No.70182979

>>70182637
Right, they "apologized" but it was a shitty one.

>> No.70182996

>>70182793
It won't, because fans don't care. New ones are also not going to spend hours studying the drama.

>> No.70183024

>>70182629
And here he forgets we alredy went past copium. She literallt hasn’t streamed in 2 weeks, lost months of subscribers, and all living signs she could give is literally “Pokemon”.

Have you not noticed we called out all your schizo moves one by one? Get back when you have new arguments.
And for the record, all she has to do is address the fucking black video. It’s not rocket science, one proper admission that was fucked up.

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>>70182629
Just like Finana, right? I'm sure she'll recover from that drama any day now.

>> No.70183088

>>70182764
They're just poor with words and didn't know exactly what wrong they did. I'd hope they'd be self-reflecting and actually changing, because would it still be too late?
>>70182957
BECAUSE YOU KEPT TELLING THEM THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO

>> No.70183112
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70183112

>Elira comes back
>Views skyrocket due to drama hounds baiting and trying to get new drama
>It proves her right that drama = views
>Drama hounds get bored and stop watching
>Create new drama
>Repeat

Nijisanji has been on this cycle for years now, what the fuck are you faggots doing?

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>>70182629

>> No.70183141

>>70182749
Kek
Do it. Do it right now. DM Elira right now to stream a full apology.
Stop fucking playing dumb. The clique are cockroaches. They're not going to do a full apology stream incriminating themselves.

>> No.70183167

>>70177886
I can't stand this bitch. And she'll eventually have the last laugh too when she finally moves to NijiJP

>> No.70183174

>>70181835
They've had all month. They decided to drag her through the mud instead.

>> No.70183193

>>70182910
Sure, whatever helps you escape reality bro. You look like a fool to people who do not agree with your sunken-cost copium.

>> No.70183224

>>70182996
New ones will be here everytime the algorithm will suggest the black video as it’s the most watched one. That’s the curse she casted on herself.
And by all means try to private/delete it.
A third shitstorm for sure.

>> No.70183226

>>70183046
Ok now bring up the previous month and realize your argument is shit, as if finana was doing well in the first place.

>> No.70183246

>>70182652
In my opinion I do not think it's a form of apology

>> No.70183253

>>70182996
>New ones are also not going to spend hours studying the drama.
they don't need to if nijisanji already marked as villain, remember bunch of normies blow this shit onto the normies atmosphere?

>> No.70183257

>>70183112
Eventually you run out of suckers to recruit.

>> No.70183263

>>70182996
Every time Elira and her posse see doki's smug face anywhere on the internet they will be reminded of their failure. This will make them seethe and eventually begin losing hair.

>> No.70183285

>>70183088
>They're just poor with words
Now justify streaming it over her
We both know why they did it, but I want to see how you paint over it

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relevant

>> No.70183311

>>70182996
You don't need hours to study the drama when literally the first thing that shows up when you search for nijisanji's black company

>> No.70183336

>>70183224
>the algorithm
That constantly changes? The one that is specific decide around your interests? Yeah no. If your not looking for drama its not going to show up there.

>> No.70183363

>>70183112
>Views skyrocket.
Right, let’s watch her last stream, I heard it got to 1 million!

>> No.70183365

>>70183226
>as if finana was doing well in the first place.
she in fact doing well until prosocial fuck and secrets discord

>> No.70183370

>>70183141
>>70183174
Because you told them their initial apology was lacking any accountability and remorse, and now you told them it was too late to do it again, even with the self-reflection and the will to change, because words are just meaningless. Actions are just damage control. Apologies are manipulative. This is the realm you dramafags created, so why should they if Doki doesn't want anything to do with them anymore in the first place?

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>>70183088
Nobody is ever beyond redemption, but that requires that they actually show any sign of regret and any will to change.
Instead, they double down on all the worst accusations.

>> No.70183400

>>70183088
Are you fucking 12? How on earth could anyone stop them from apologizing?
Self reflecting? Have they shown ANY signs of that? Every single statement to come out of them has been a direct smear against Doki trying to destroy her credibility. Every single one. Just like Sayu. Only this time nobody fucking believes them because they haven't even taken the steps to begin self reflection beyond apologizing to the fucking investors instead of Doki.

>> No.70183434

>>70183311
The actions of a company are not the same as person. They are not going to attributed their actions to the talents...

>> No.70183440

>>70183298
based and real

>> No.70183486

>>70183378
What if you were told that you weren't?

>> No.70183497

>>70182996
I love how you still believe it takes hours to study the drama when nijisanji's black reputation has already gone mainstream. Hope you guys are going to get new fans from africa or Antarctica because those are the only places that don't already have the image of nijisanji being a black company

>> No.70183549

>>70183434
And you think normies will care for that distinction?

>> No.70183558

>>70183370
What initial apology? What fucking initial apology? The one trying to paint Doki as a harassing, manipulative, unstable doxxer trying to harm poor Elira and her babies?

>> No.70183563

>>70183088
>They are just poor with words.

Hold up. Stop. Did…did you actually said that about a liver? About someone who’s job is SPEIFICIALLY to talk in front of a camera.
Did you basically called them shit?

Jesus god you ARE retarded.

>> No.70183568

>>70183226
So talent that were already stagnating have actually reclined due to this, and you expect them to bounce back....to when they were stagnating?

>> No.70183581

>>70183497
No one cares about the company. This is like being upset at a walmart worker because their company is shit. No one does that.

>> No.70183609

>>70183298
Good summary, I worked in PR and once the public hates you, it is a gigantic task to just claw back being perceived in a non-negative way. This is not their first big scandal with someone leaving either. Expect more shit like this in the future, it is institutionalized in how they conduct their business at this point.

>> No.70183655

>>70183549
Yes? Because thats literally what happens every god damn day.

>> No.70183662

>>70183285
Obviously a coincidence. You're getting delusional.

>> No.70183665

>>70183336
>If your not looking for drama its not going to show up there.
Yeah I'm sure asmongold and moistcritikal are small obscure creators that people will need to deliberately search for to get recommended

>> No.70183669

>>70183363
It did, legitimately. It's her most popular video.

Drama = Money. Because you suckers are fucking retards.

>> No.70183685

>>70183558
The one where they didn't actually take accountability for all of their actions and didn't express genuine remorse that got told could never happen because Doki told them all to fuck off.

>> No.70183684

>>70183434
Then why the fuck would you have the talents put out the video personally instead of the company? They threw all of the talents under the bus to try to take the heat off themselves. It's fucking working, sadly. And Elira, one of the people claiming the black screen video is all her words, is a lot more visible than whoever the fuck doxxed Sayu.

>> No.70183721

>>70183486
is this a case of
>the jew cries out in pain as he stabs you
and you want me to trust the jew that he's actually hurt?

>> No.70183732

>>70183568
No? Because i'm not talking about finana.

>> No.70183749

>>70183581
Now hold up, I do care. Riku is not getting out of this argument with his penny pinching and button stealking tendencies.
Elira is a bitch but let’s not ignore that if someone spent money in competent management and not a Yacht all of this would have never happened to begin with.

>> No.70183783

>>70183581
Maybe if the Walmart worker personally put his face on wallmart's logo and lead a public smear campaign against unions you might have a point

>> No.70183823

>>70183665
I have never had a single asmongold video recommend for me, despite having similiar interests, so, fanastic job at a really shit example. People out here pretending they understand how the algorithm works when they dont. If you yourself aren't starting the search it doesnt fucking show you it on its own.

>> No.70183862

>>70183685
I give up. You didn't even watch the video. Can't have an actual discussion in bad faith.

>> No.70183900

>>70183370
>even with the self-reflection and the will to change
Hello?????
Elira? Enna? Millie? Reimu? Self-reflection and the will to change?
Did you come from an alternate timeline? They hyperventilated with joy at the news of Selen's attempted suicide you absolute retard nigger.

>> No.70183909

>>70177886
LET THE BULLYING RESUME

>> No.70183929

>>70183823
And you think new people will somehow come into nijisanji without first searching for nijisanji?

>> No.70183939

>>70182747
Fair enough.
That doesn't change the fact that Nijisanji could have given them a less hostile script to read. The livers might not have had a chance to apologize or make a neutral announcement, but Nijisanji themselves did.
They may have squandered the chance, but they still had the chance. Not the livers' fault that Riku is a cunt.

>> No.70183966

>>70183112
do NOT use my oshi's wife for shitposting, nijiscum

>> No.70183986

>>70183669
The video has no ads retard. What money are they getting from it? And don’t try to spin all publicity is good publicity, because they literally skipped valentine streams over it. VALENTINE.

>> No.70184001

>>70183721
No what if someone actually told you that you have no shot at redemption at all

>> No.70184002

>>70182629
>OG fans
I know guys who's names on everything used to be elira/vox references that are now some holo/phase

>> No.70184017

Nothing ever happens

>> No.70184029

I've said it before and I'll say it again; apologizing only if you have something to gain from it isn't a fucking apology. Forgiveness isn't owed. Words are cheap. If you really want to turn your reputation around, you have to change your behavior first.

Sisters bitching about how "the clique can't apologize because it won't silence their critics" are terminally retarded.

>> No.70184031

>>70183732
Finana is just an example, Rosemi too spent so long clawing her way to 500k and it got reset a good mile back. NijiEN has been performing poorly for months, they already weren't in a position where they could work off a hit like this

>> No.70184043

>>70181835
>It's another Finana on /vt/ episode
SIGH

>> No.70184069

>>70183929
>come into nijisanji
No one comes into something like this, they see a streamer they like, and then they do some searching and even then that doesnt mean they will attribute the actions of a company to the talent

>> No.70184198

>>70184069
He's clearly talking about new talent you fucking retard. You know, to replace the ones you keep hemorrhaging.

>> No.70184232

>>70182747
>Except then the CEO apologizes.
>The script scenario.
You do realize they are hyperfucked if that isreal right? Can’t prove it, can’t fight the company. If your scenario is correct all your livers are basically slaves at the moment hoping for termination or graduation after that.

So returning to the topic of this thread, you should be sad Elira is back because she literally has to work or get sued,fired and deported. Checkmate.

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>>70184069
>then they do some searching
Boo

>> No.70184259

>>70184043
It better not be. If she's still here doing this shit after that letters thread then she's 100% beyond saving and needs to burn with the rest of them.

>> No.70184273

>>70183486
>whatifisms now
Excitedly awaiting for the whataboutisms.

>> No.70184371

>>70184273
I'm pretty sure Elira was told she had no shot at redemption. And that she has to lie in her bed she's made forever.

>> No.70184398

>>70184259
I hope that she isn't wasting her days in Japan on 4chan...

>> No.70184492

>>70184371
And this stops her from actually attempting to apologize... how? Because Doki is one thing. Them participating in that barbaric company to the detriment of everyone else is another. She doesn't need Doki to at least CLAIM she's going to do better.

>> No.70184569

>>70184069
They are not indies. Both tribalism and corporate boost are real. And if you take away the corporate boost, which is based solely on reputation, there is no reason to give most of your profits to the corpo in the first place.

>> No.70184585

There's literally no other way for nijiEN to recover its previous glory and pubic goodwill except for a public apology supported by certain actions:

>our previous investigation was shit, blah, blah, we were misinformed, we fucked up, we're sorry
>all the guilty ones and controversial ones were purged
>we hired professional personal managers for each liver, paying them real money
>we offer (?)$ compensation to Selen (and maybe Zaion) as an apology
>make a deal with Selen so they make a joint statements that there's no bad blood now
>present a certain plan for livers' 3D models, actually good merch, management operations, preventive measures that won't allow the creation of toxic working environment, etc
>Livers' cut raised from 2% to 50%

And more. Will the company built on a huge EGO, trying to cheap out on literally everything and having a really shitty operation model in general do that? Doubtful.

>> No.70184597
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>>70184001
Have you seen Sayu? Niji doestroyed her and now she does fine.
Everybody thought she was an awful person because of their character assassination, but she convinced people by being a good entertainer and sweet to her fans.
If you truly want to turn things around, you can do it. But to do so, you need to have a desire to change. If they changed for the better, fans will catch on.
All I see now is that Anycolor themselves stated that there is bullying and harrassment and livers like Enna or Finana who hate their fans. With those news, it's easy to assume that it's no act, but that they genuinely do. It seems like their fans got the message, but they show no sign of remorse.
You just want people to trust livers who can't help but double down again and again and again to the point that their own fanbases collapse.

>> No.70184677

>>70184492
She's tried. And she deep down knows it wasn't good enough. It's probably too late to anyways. It'll just keep hurting everyone else, no matter how much it needs to be done anyways. Some people just don't deserve closure I guess. Just lie in their bed they've made forever.

>> No.70184733

>>70184371
Doki took the high road, so the only thing stopping Elira from apologizing is the fucking company we also hate, not us.
That’s why we can’t stand nijisis, you are shills, you refuse to fight the actual problem. Even if tomorrow Doki stops streaming people will not magically stop hating the shitstorm.
Even chinafags proved to be able to protest against gaming companies to change stuff they did not like. If they fucking did it, what stops you?

>> No.70184752

>>70184371
This board isn't a hive mind, every poster has thoughts and beliefs of their own, some may think that Elira shouldn't enjoy the rest of her life because of this, others beg to differ and so on. It isn't as simple as generalizing a group of people.

>> No.70184751

>>70184597
They should be apologizing to Sayu.

>> No.70184758

>>70184677
>She's tried
Doko?

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>>70177886

>> No.70184793

>>70184677
>she's tried
bitch where

>> No.70184851

>>70184597
>she convinced people by being a good entertainer and sweet to her fans.
Um, no, she convinced people because nijisanji imploded and people started supporting everyone they tried to smear out of spite. Remember she was struggling to be a 4view until recent events revealed the niji smear campaign for what it is

>> No.70184881

>>70184585
they're not firing Elira and her clique. they just want to hire 1 part-timer student who is required to know 4 langugages, have business level education, and does EN branch manager duties for just 5 hours a day for $7.40/hr for 3 months.
Niji EN just needs to end.

>> No.70184880

>>70184597
Absolutely shameful how these people treated her.

>> No.70184883

>>70184677
Literally where. Unless “Pokemon” is some member-only language code.

>> No.70184911

>>70184733
This shit can be done in private though. I'd guess Doki told her it's too late if anything.
>>70184752
God I hope that's true. Elira definitely fucked up in a lot of areas of how she ran NijiEN, but nothing should stop her from self-reflection and an actual attempt to apologize once more.

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70184949

>>70184371
>And that she has to lie in her bed she's made forever
You must be genuinely dyslexic, I wrote this bed metaphor that they don't want to face the consequences of their own actions and I explicitly wrote that NOBODY IS EVER BEYOND REDEMPTION.
You just read what you want to read.
Holy shit.
You're so retarded I almost believe you're Finana.

>> No.70184975

Elira should have come back playing palworld since that game has slavery

>> No.70185011

>>70184677
Where? It's not just Doki she needs to apologize to. It's also her fans, Sayu, probably some others who haven't spoken up as well.

>> No.70185021

>>70179965
They're niji fans, if anything, luxiem. They had more to say about some of the more popular guys and barely anything about the girls. One girl who did get a decent amount of bullet points was enna

>> No.70185027

>>70184677
pics or it didn't happen

>> No.70185042
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70185042

I don't participate in social media, and keep trying "Don't recommend this channel" vtubers from my recommended.

I still got appraised on the situation. Congratulations. Who figured out it was this "Elira" that's responsible?

>> No.70185136

>>70184949
And yet someone can just say they are beyond redemption. There goes any future attempt.

>> No.70185214

>>70185027
Allegedly they tried to reach out to doki the previous day to work on a joint statement where both sides take the blame, and got ignored. Geez, I wonder why. If Finana larper is to be believed.

>> No.70185235

>>70185011
If she apologizes it'd make things worse. Because no one wants to be reminded of their traumatic experiences with her. She is beyond redemption.

>> No.70185253

>>70182652
go to bed kid, its past your bedtime.
you got school in the morning.

>> No.70185272

>>70184677
>she's tried
Finana, it's really you talking isn't it?
Tell Elira to do the right thing and stop this whole charade.

>> No.70185337

>>70185214
This is such hilarious optics I'm almost inclined to believe it.

>> No.70185397

>>70185042
It wasn't one person who figured out, it was many posters in the board who joined the pieces together based on evidence and guessing to fill in the blank spaces.

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>>70184851
>struggling to be a 4view
Fucking listen to yourself, number monkey. For the longest time, people hatewatching her was the only way she was able to keep up anything resembling a ccv. She STILL gets morons trying to attack her regularly. Just being a 4view itself is a goddamn testament to her stubbornness and willingness to both change herself for the better emotionally and how hard her work ethic is. 4view is a fucking accomplishment with how badly Niji turned the community against her, considering how many people ghosted her until the Selen termination showed that maybe, just maybe, she wasn't the demon they made her out to be.

>> No.70185467

>>70185272
If anything Elira should just stop and lay low.

>> No.70185525

>>70179145
What's this supposed to be?

>> No.70185547

>>70184911
Larper is you again? Look if you are ACTUALLY Finana you do realize if this isreal you are getting terminated over all these breaches?
And here’s a fucking tip: words are cheap. Actions speak louder. Try satying sorry with those.

>> No.70185592

>>70185214
>Allegedly they tried to reach out to doki the previous day to work on a joint statement where both sides take the blame, and got ignored. Geez, I wonder why. If Finana larper is to be believed.
What? That can't be real. Is that what the larper was saying when they said she shut them out, or is this a different thread?

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>>70185525

>> No.70185603

>>70179898
You wish.

>> No.70185629

>>70185397
Okay, so, apparently, that was a leaker, who was actually a current vtuber in nijisanji's employ (unwilling). Have their posts been confirmed?

>> No.70185657

>>70185547
For the last time I am not Finana. And my mind's made up, I no longer want Elira to apologize. It's not worth it because doing so will just make everything worse.

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70185698

>Finana is ITT trying to gaslight anons into thinking that Elira and her clique made a full self-incriminating apology video that nobody can find, and that the clique are willing to be good people now but can't because of some /vt/ threads
WEW

>> No.70185705

>>70185525
Newest nijisister psyops
>>70164136

>> No.70185718

>>70185397
>schizos babbling
Got it

>> No.70185735

>>70185657
How on earth could apologizing make things worse? This entire industry is built on the concept of personal growth through watching idols improve over time both physically and mentally.

>> No.70185764

children and people with the mental ages on children being allowed easy and unmonitored access to the internet was a mistake and is why we cant have nice things.

>> No.70185779

>>70185397
Wrong Anon. We were just rratting a but until thry self-reporting and making us dig deeper and make the GURRAT.
I’m not shitposting when I say ALL this truly exploded with the black video.

>> No.70185805

>>70185629
Enough that they are willing to spend time here trying to psyops us into thinking it isn't true

>> No.70185845

>>70185718
No, she self reported hard and the schizo just put the puzzle pieces together.

>> No.70185898

>>70184585
they would sooner fold the whole branch than do even one of those lines
Bear in mind, niji has a history of this sort of thing even on the jp side; it just never really made social media traction because subhuman bugmen will defend the company no matter what, even if they raped toddlers live on camera

>> No.70185901

>>70185136
No.
They can prove that they mean it which requires a will to change and positive actions. You just seem to hope for that 1 PR stunt that will turn it around, but trust is like a forest of apple trees. You can burn all trees down in 15 minutes, but they take a long time to grow until you can reap the fruits.
>>70184851
>she was struggling to be a 4view
so she had Finana's CCV x2 lmao

>> No.70185949

>>70185735
Because no one wants to be reminded of their traumatic past?

>> No.70186027

>>70185949
Yes. Clearly it's for THEIR benefit. So considerate.

>> No.70186029

>>70185901
You don't fucking get it do you? When someone says they have a 0% chance of redemption, that means, they have a 0% chance of redemption.

>> No.70186030

>>70185735
An apology is just an admission of guilt. Thats what antis want. They dont care about the actual apology, only that it gives them justification for their actions.

>> No.70186047

>>70185629
The posts of the leaker tend to contextualize certain events that happened inside the branch, so they may be true, but it's always recommended to take them with a grain of salt. Interestingly, the leaker mentioned a ''grassroots PR'' from part of the NijiEN streamers, and that is more or less what has been seen on Twitter with them defending an artist a week ago.

>> No.70186119

>>70185214
>she's tried to apologize
>let's share the blame publicly
meds cannot fix this

>> No.70186120

>>70186030
I'm a fan of Elira's and I want her to apologize.

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>>70181835
>>70181983

>> No.70186162

>>70185901
Sayu was so fucking desperate to not be shot down by the algorithm, she flat out said she couldn't afford to ban people and remove them from the potential watchers during one of her breakdowns early on.
>>70185136
It doesn't matter what people say. All that matters is what people do. If they work to fix the bridges they burnt down, or at least try to help others hurt by those bridges being burnt, then anybody can at least start to redeem themselves. Once again, Sayu's a fantastic example of that.

>> No.70186170

>>70186030
They have plenty of justification for their actions, antis and former fans alike.

>> No.70186198

>>70185604
So they know jack shit about most of the livers they want to sugarcoat? LOL

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70186213

>when you bully someone to the point of attempted suicide
>and refuse to acknowledge any wrongdoing
>to own the antis
>this will surely solve the anti problem

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70186222

>>70185949
POKEMON!!!!!! WOOHOOO!!!! I'M TOO TRAUMATIZED TO APOLOGIZE :D

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>>70186029
Yes, you're right. I don't get it how someone with this mindset could ever hope to redeem herself.

>> No.70186383

I always was a fan of judging people on their past behavior. Talk is cheap, but continuous actions show where your values lie.

Nijisanji has repeatedly abused and bullied their talents. It goes back years now. There is little in terms of ''PR positivity'' and ''We are a family here at Nijisanji'' which would convince me anything changed.

>> No.70186417

>>70186162
>It doesn't matter what people say. All that matters is what people do. If they work to fix the bridges they burnt down, or at least try to help others hurt by those bridges being burnt, then anybody can at least start to redeem themselves. Once again, Sayu's a fantastic example of that.
I hope to God almighty you're right.

>> No.70186430

How does the top talent get bulloed anyways? All she had to do was say "my sub count is higher than yours lol" every time they tried. This is like if the most popular kid in school was being bullied by a fat ugly nerd with no friends. Although I guess in this case Selen was the fat one lol.

>> No.70186506

>>70185735
NTA but apologizing when any mob is demanding an apology is a real rookie mistake to make, and can actually make things worse. The best move is and always will be to shut the fuck up but I'm not sure if Elira's NPD allows her to do that

>> No.70186513

>>70185705
This is totally going change people's perception!! Just like #positivespamforniji and #loveforuki!!


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.

.


.

....Yeah, as if. Theese attempts are futile.

>> No.70186518

>>70185592
Referring to this
>>70099650
>>70157600
>2. a partial admission of guilt from both sides, how everyone (Doki and Niji) could have acted different, and 3. again, a final plea to everyone to move on, since this is what both Doki and Niji wants.
Which means either
>A joint statement
or
>NijiEN puts blame on Doki, again

>> No.70186642

>>70186430
According to the leaker, Nijisanji has no competent management, and relied on Elira, who could speak Japanese, to be a de facto manager.

>> No.70186681

>>70180666
what if she's excited about it anon

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>>70182629
Luxiem sisters are not OG fans and are definitely neither a healthy nor sustainable replacement for OG fans. What money they throw at her for her return stream ain't gonna last. Many real OG fans left. However, I think some may be willing to give Elira another chance. MAY BE. Remember, the gurrat itself is open to the idea that Elira is more incompetent than malicious and that she may been pushed to do things she didn't want to do in the first place.

Personally, as much as I want things the way they used to be with Elira, I can never trust her or NijiEN again. However, some may be waiting to see what she does next before doing anything more than giving her streams a glance. That's trust she has to carefully win back. Meanwhile she also has to contend with bad word of mouth and even her own company and coworkers fucking up PR. Even then, I am not sure how successful she'll be. She has it the worst of any remaining liver right now: She's on the doc, betrayed her image, took part in the black screen video, hosted that video, and isn't a Nijimale. Really the only thing she has in her favor is the lack of leaks proving any potential bad side.

At best Elira becomes a slightly bigger Finana, coasting on whatever she has left and never really growing. At least not for a very, very long time. And that's if she doesn't do something stupid again or have a mask-off moment (leaked) that cements the worst rrats about her.

>> No.70186725

>>70186030
I was a big fan of Elira and Enna before all of this bullshit, and I liked Millie's creativity too. I didn't want to believe all this crap about the clique until I saw the blackbox stream, which forced me to acknowledge that something was critically wrong with them and their relationships with the other talent. It felt like a serious betrayal to hear one of my favorite people viciously attack another one of my favorite people not in a game, but to actually try to ruin their life. It fucking sucked thinking that maybe MY money was going towards attacking and harassing other people.

The apology itself doesn't fucking matter. It could be two words long. I don't give a shit about retribution. What does matter is the actions afterwards to make sure that nothing like this ever happens again and SOME kind of action is taken to try to heal from the bullshit inflicted on the victims. The apology itself is just a public statement that you're willing to change.

>> No.70186729

>>70186430
This ain't 1v1. Selen got outnumbered by the clique's tyranny.

>> No.70186739

>>70181835
>You never even gave them a chance to apologize
this is the new tactic
"AnyColor and the livers WANTED to do the right thing, but the haters didn't let them"
everyday sister campaigns detach more and more from reality

>> No.70186783

>>70186518
I'm gonna laugh hard if this supposedly professional PR team turns out to be JP mass comm grads being paid minimum wage (again)

>> No.70186785

>>70186430
If rrats are to be believed, her being the most popular NijiEN girl is part of why she was bullied in the first place. And because she can't speak Japanese.

>> No.70186801

>>70186030
The justification is the heartless self-reporting, so that has passed already
They could start apologizing in membership and let it leak out. It could work if Nijisanji is willing to do PR for the following year

>> No.70186812

>>70186430
Workplace bullying is done by making it hard for you to do your job, see Selen's infamous history of event troubles

>> No.70186827

>>70186430
Not being the type of person to go "I have more subs than you" is how you get on the radar of a clique in the first place

>> No.70186830

>>70186518
Doki has already made it clear that she wants to move on.
Anycolor doesn't.
Their livers just get slandered for their own actions.

>> No.70186865

>>70186430
If they have ties to management, constantly delaying and shutting down her projects after deep investment would do the trick, and enough emotional abuse behind the scenes eventually wears down at even the toughest people.

>> No.70186938

>>70177886
>Everyone shitting on nijisanji
>They can't deny the fact that it got better lore than anything Hololive could ever created
The plot is thickened. The half dragon successfully killed her half sister for the throne. But the throne is burning because the people of the kingdom saw her as unworthy. She has gotren what she always wanted, but at what cost?

>> No.70187035

>>70177886
Dookie fags lost, dramafags lost, twitter lost, phasefags lost, holofags lost

>> No.70187058

>>70186938
Niji low-key employed Nostradamus.

>> No.70187133

>>70187035
>Dookie
Didn't the leaker say that the livers used that word on their Discord?

>> No.70187184

>>70186938
Your lore sucks, she got turned into a Tomato by Millie and now wears a suit of a girl.

>> No.70187186

>>70186938
>Hololive: Marvel
>Nijisanji: DC

One got their franchise off the ground, and enjoyed worldwide fame. The other has some strong players, but is unable to sell itself on anything but a mentally ill billionaire and a cast of villains. Am I wrong?

>> No.70187200

>>70186812
>>70186865
What I find hilarious is despite all the vile crab-in-a-bucket bullshit the clique pulled to get ahead, none of them got anywhere near closing the gap with actual talent. Maybe that's why they got desperate enough to try to force her out of the company

>> No.70187208

>>70187035
bannedvtmemes lost, parrot4chan lost, /vt/ lost

>> No.70187209

>>70187133
That's old news though, of course the sisters use it now too

>> No.70187263

>>70187133
Not a good point. Nijisis started to use that word a lot and I bet it came from the leaker.

>> No.70187283

>>70187208
Stop, you're gonna hurt my feelings...

>> No.70187304

>>70187186
>Doki was always more of a DC fan
oh no...

>> No.70187327

>>70186739
Funny thing is, if they decide to actually go with that narrative, as in get the talents to propagate it, they'll dig themselves even deeper because by doing so they're literally inviting more scrutiny.
So who's the one ITT? Finana? Enna? Whoever the fuck it is, go ahead. Push that narrative. Skinwalk the talents' twitters. See what happens when you formally challenge the autists of 4chan to scrutinize your every move.

>> No.70187369

>>70186938
Just in time for Season 2 of HotD, year's gonna be kino.

>> No.70187367

>>70187304
She walked right into it. Joker laugh and everything !

>> No.70187419

>>70187200
Selen was blowing milestones, so the rest were playing catchup through everything else?

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>>70187133
yup, top left

>> No.70187563

>>70187035
A kingdom is nothing if all the residents left. Nobody to rule over, it's basically a dead land waiting to be conquered over.
>We are here
Basically what Elira is having right now. All the people of the old Kingdom has left and followed Doki, the ressurection of Selen, the righty and mighty owner of the people and of the old kingdom. To become a queen is Selen fate and forcefuly changing that by Elira's will only cause the almight Gods to punish her even more.

>> No.70187588

>>70187200
I unironically believe this. Because that is what snakes do. They do not compete with you on competence - they sabotage you, or rally people against you to have strength in numbers.

Most of them would be who's without the brand buff. But not all of them.

>> No.70187642

>>70186222
Not Elira you idiot, Doki doesn't want to be reminded of the person who drove her to suicide attempts.

>> No.70187679

>>70185021
Kinda interesting they only have good thing to say about fags and chink females, can't imagine who's behind those posts.

>> No.70187683

>>70187454
>A lot of discussion about "dramatubers" on discord, but Slack is spotless
And that's how the clique appears as innocent angels to the main branch.

>> No.70187709

>>70181001
hahahaha say that again with a straight face. her loyal asslicking fagoons would jump off a cliff if she told them to

>> No.70187827

>>70181610
why would you show remorse when you've done nothing wrong? Selen needed to just put on her big girl pants and go to work like everyone else. Crying for drama like a tiktok grifter was the easy way out when she didnt get to have everything HER way

>> No.70187887

>Can't apologize because that would mean admitting fault
>which means they win
women logic

>> No.70187895

>>70181001
>Rebellion dramafaggots
>not a loyal follower of queen Doki
You guys are even worse than nijishitters. Go die because you go against our queen's wish, you sinful cockroaches!

>> No.70187928

>>70181868
Mumei wouldn't do jack shit, she'd piss her pants and fall into the fetal position if anyone even looked at her threateningly and you know it. She's a tiny helpless brat. Where is her righteous anger? Where were her tweets and collabs sticking up for her dear friend? Oh right, they didnt happen.

>> No.70187963

>>70187709
>her loyal asslicking fagoons would jump off a cliff if she told them to
the irony is delicious

>> No.70188024

>>70186518
Also since everyone's /here/ and not very bright, let me spell out it for you. Any joint statement at this point can only go through lawyers as part of the settlement. Which is not a fast process, and should have been started right after the black stream fiasco.

>> No.70188037

>>70187827
Enna? It would be better if you focused on increasing the quality of your streams.

>> No.70188085

>>70182427
BAAAAAAASED I'm going to steal that one.
>>70182473
Slander? All I saw was a video refuting a lying grifters claims and spreading the truth of the situation. Not their fault if the zealous tourists choose to belief dokicunt, nothing they said would have mattered at that point.

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>>70187827
>making someone almost kill herself is "nothing wrong"
>inb4 b-but she has this or that mental issue
>making a mentally ill person almost kill herself is "nothing wrong"

>> No.70188166

>>70187709
>implying my queen is as evil as yours
Queen Doki is the purest and kindest leader that actually cares about her people

>> No.70188167

>>70187928
did you really just get baited into targeting another company's talent? lmao, you guys need to pick your battles

>> No.70188169

>>70181610
people who actually watch nijisanji would note that the CEO of the company literally went on stream explicitly to apologize and brought up mental health as a primary concern and thing to work on in the future. You can choose not to believe him if you want but don't spread this absolute bullshit

>> No.70188172

>>70187827
Ah, that's more like it. Took you a while to drop the facade.

>> No.70188180

>>70182497
So having a spotless reputation for years is thrown out the window because of reading a corporate script for a few minutes? Makes sense. Selen's reputation was dogshit here for years, and yet her sins were washed away instantly because she decided to jump off a building. Quite the double standard.

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>>70187887
And they will continue to suffer for it until things are set right

>> No.70188261

>>70188180
>Selen's reputation was dogshit here for years
You're talking about selenposter, who was enna.

>> No.70188271

>>70187454
>a lot of livers banded together to talk to Scarle about collabing with Aster
Holy shit this is the modus operandi isn't it. Vox mentioned it on the black stream, they just get your coworkers to mob you whenever something bad happens

>> No.70188317

>>70187200
Which is what I don't fucking understand. Nearly all of Selen's projects were group activities and productions to build up everybody in the company. Every single organ at the time had a room on the Niji Express. Is it just jealousy? Her stubbornness? I don't fucking understand what causes people to go against that. She clearly loved Niji to the point of being called a bootlicker herself by the community for how badly she kept caving to that shitty management and not leaving.

>> No.70188321

>>70188107
"Making" someone kill themselves? How, exactly? She's an adult, and it's just a job. No one made her do anything, she chose to. Don't like your job? Coworkers suck? Find a new job like everyone else on earth. Fucking dramaqueen thin skin piece of shit, I hate Selen so much

>> No.70188350

>>70185901
Sayu doing better than Finana, after getting destroyed in public and before the redemption will always be funny, like what's your excuse now woman?
That's the biggest wake up call you could get as a liver and yet she does nothing.

>> No.70188410

The architect and the bully-er, they arrive calmly from their revolving door with a sense of purpose

>> No.70188429

>>70188261
oh come now, don't act like its not true. She was a joke, ridiculed constantly /here/. Homobeggar Prime, Altare's cocksleeve, ragequitting games, shitting the bed in every tournament, her cringe fake ass fucking laugh, there were threads dumping on her every day. But now she's magically a saint for trying to an hero, its mind boggling

>> No.70188459

>>70188085
>>70188180
>>70188321
If you didn't waste your time here, you could be focusing on improving the quality of your streams to get more viewers and money, Enna. Don't believe you ever will, because you have a track record of being lazy as fuck.

>> No.70188462

>>70185397
>It wasn't one person who figured out, it was many posters in the board who joined the pieces together based on evidence and guessing to fill in the blank spaces.
And kurosanji made them all confirmed as real, praise the rrat god.

>> No.70188470

>>70188321
Okay Vox, just because you don't consider harassment doesn't meant it isn't and no, "she can leave whenever she wanted" is not an excuse

>> No.70188489

>>70188429
Yep, all enna.

>> No.70188506

>>70188429
People's hatred of nijisanji simply outweighs their hatred of her. It's not hard to grasp.

>> No.70188523

>>70188321
You've clearly never been invested in anything your entire short life, nor have you ever actually held a job, child.

>> No.70188529

>>70188470
yes it is. When you have a bad boss and dont like your coworkers, you find a new job, you don't go hang yourself. What's so hard to understand about that?

>> No.70188531

>>70185214
>Allegedly they tried to reach out to doki the previous day to work on a joint statement where both sides take the blame, and got ignored.
Is so retarded that I'm inclined to believe is real, like autists that can't read the room.

>> No.70188554

>>70183486
what if i told you that you're retarded?

>> No.70188583

>>70188429
It's not magical, it's that niji's PR response is so bad

>> No.70188594

>>70188317
It's simple. She had more subscribers than Elira. Everyone knew Selen was the more popular dragon sister :)

>> No.70188598

So the trip to Riku yacht is over

>> No.70188624

>>70188085
>this wasn't a video against Doki because they just published a video against Doki
>>70188180
holy shit you're dense. trust can be destroyed VERY easily and this is what Elira did. and because she did, people reconsidered how they think about Doki, especially if she had such a hard time.
Isn't that obvious?
I can live peacefully next to my neighbour and think nothing about him, but if I suddenly hear that he kept his sister in his basement, my perception would change. Yours would, too, if you're not a psychopath.
>>70188321
>t. has never worked a real job and especially not a toxic one

>> No.70188632

>>70188429
>But now she's magically a saint for trying to an hero, its mind boggling
If it makes you feel any better, people are just as mad that these pissants screwed Pomu over too. There are lots of reasons to hate Nigisanji

>> No.70188634

>>70188169
>Unironically defending Riku Fucking Tazumi now
Yeah we know you deepthroat his cock while you're in Japan for that job, Elira.

>> No.70188638

>>70188523
I own my own business, thanks. Had plenty of menhera's quit over the years, none of them decided to off themselves.

>> No.70188651

>>70188180
>Selen's reputation was dogshit here for years
Selen and Pomu being the only worthwhile NijiENs was a pretty common common sentiment. Not universal, obviously, basically all vtubers have at least somebody shitting on them here after all.

>> No.70188680

>>70188529
you lack human empathy, get therapy. things are not black and white and people have plenty of reasons to stay on their jobs.
Specially on ones where you have a contract and you can't simply leave like vtubing.

>> No.70188708

>>70188180
>selen's reputation was dogshit for years
holy shit revisionist history batman
>>70188169
Kinda soured when less than a fucking hour earlier they were slandering her on twitter by quadrupling down trying to defend the blackbox video which was 2 hours before THAT. Also they didn't even MENTION the horrible termination letter. It was an apology for the fucking investors, not Selen or the fans. It just reeked of "Sorry I got caught." There was absolutely no time to reflect, nor did it direct anything towards the actual victims. Just "PLEASE DON'T SELL ALL YOUR STOCK I DON'T WANNA LOSE MONEY"

>> No.70188736

Why is the rebuttal of dramafags when they have nothing to say in the conversation always Niji(x)? Nijiseethe, nijicope, nijinigger? Is it because they don’t have an actual response?

>> No.70188806

>>70188632
I have nothing against Pomu, I would happily shit on niji for what they did to her. Pomu didnt use her situation to fuck over everyone else at the company who had nothing to do with anything. Pomu didn't instantly go on and start shilling merch and grifting and crying for sympathy and pitybux. I have nothing but respect for Pomu, she took her leave with class and dignity. Didn't like her situation, so she left. Like Selen should have.
>b..but she tried to graduate...
And? Just wait your turn, boohoo. Or if you dont want to, you just quit. Simple as.

>> No.70188824

>>70188317
>Just ask yourself who's supposed to be the face of NijiEn.

>> No.70188828

>>70188736
You obviously haven't read a single post of this thread.

>> No.70188840

Reminder that
>Management has privated the video
Is the statement niji is saying would damage their reputation

>> No.70188847

>>70188638
>I either abuse normal people into quitting and call them menheras, or have such shitty hiring practices that I keep getting mentally ill employees
This was not own you thought it was.

>> No.70188898

>>70188736
The arguments are pretty obvious, if you are defending Nijisanji here you either choose to ignore the facts or don't care about them at all.

>> No.70188902

>>70188736
because you are a seething nijinigger
also, read the thread

>> No.70188926

>>70188736
Because when you repeat the same arguments that can be debunked just by reading off Nijisanji's own public statements, you're clearly not arguing in good faith and just here to cause drama.

>> No.70188944

>>70188847
No thats simply life, big companies have high turnover even with the best conditions. There are a lot of lazy, worthless people out there who dont want to work, they just want money

>> No.70188946

She can either ask Doki for forgiveness or God. The former will be easier.

>> No.70188980

>>70188529
Just noticed right now that this poster didn't deny being Vox...
Le retard de Vox Akuma does it again

>> No.70188996

>>70187327
>See what happens when you formally challenge the autists of 4chan to scrutinize your every move.
It would take just one good leak to implode the whole thing if they go that way, even another self report could work.

>> No.70188998

>>70188944
Enna, Elira, Kyo or Finana come to mind.

>> No.70189018

So this was the increase in the attempts on changing the narrative against Doki that the leaker alluded to huh. Things looked like they were slowing down and now there this sudden increase in people trying to shit on Doki

>> No.70189051

>>70189018
Yeah I'm seeing it too

>> No.70189058

>>70181835
You want forgiveness? Seek religion

>> No.70189067

>>70186938
>but at what cost?
Everything is now peaceful, everyone is dead but is indeed peaceful.

>> No.70189070

>>70188944
Selen was arguably the most accomplished, hardworking person in the entire branch who clearly didn't concern herself with money. I don't know why you're using these arguments.

>> No.70189086

>>70188806
>b..but she tried to graduate...
Yes, and then they fucked it for themselves, by themselves. You can twist it however you want but the only one who hurt their own talent was Niji

>> No.70189108
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>>70189018
Niji EN isn't sending their best.

>> No.70189109

>>70182996
Understand this: non vtuber fans know Niji as a horrible company before anything else. Literally ANYTHING else, even that it’s a vtuber company. People, millions of them, who have still never heard of vtubers know that Niji is cartoon evil. That’s an accomplishment usually reserved for the Elon Musks of the world.

>> No.70189133

>>70185629
yes
there were two leakers, LK and leaker-san.
both confirmed the gurrat, LK was most instrumental at first during the night after blackstream, same night a bit later leaker-san confirmed it and gave context.

>> No.70189158

>>70189051
I'm curious if some posters are actually livers themselves

>> No.70189174

>>70188806
Doki could drop off the face of the earth tomorrow and it wouldn't justify Nijisanji's horrible PR decisions or terrible working conditions. It's rotten to the core, sister.

>> No.70189223

>>70188944
A company losing two of its most prominent, foundational names isn't "simply life" or just usual turnover

>> No.70189258

>>70189158
Finana couldn't lie her way out of a fucking box. I had so much faith that she was just a misguided fool, but now I have to accept she's just as disgusting as the rest of them.

>> No.70189267

>>70188944
Hololive has had 2 graduations and 2 terminations.
Nijisanji has... Countless.

>> No.70189344

>>70189267
Also, I have seen people mock Vesper and Magni, but I never saw anyone wish for them to kill themselves - or that everything they had, they stole from Hololive. That is a unique Nijisanji trait.

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>>70189158
Well if that's the case then here's a picture of Doki holding something they'll never hold

>> No.70189371

>>70188944
They lost fucking Mysta, Nina, Pomu, Selen, and nearly lost Vox too before his RP rennaissance or whatever the fuck he's calling it now. This isn't "turnover." This is maliciously chasing away ALL of your best performers and ruining their lives for no reason.

>> No.70189383

>>70189133
Correction: LK has said things that are verifiable, the other leaker has only responded to dramaposts and has said nothing that has been confirmed.

>> No.70189384

>>70189223
See them argue that Pomu and Selen weren't actually that important because others, like Elira, were far more prominently featured at far more events with far more merch.

>> No.70189525

>>70189383
They said Uki was suspended until further notice. Also hard to verify anything when niji is doing nothing.

>> No.70189530

>>70189383
If Elira is planning a return soon, and this astroturfing seems to suggest so, it will be another point in his favor. But yeah so far he's considered larp.

>> No.70189547

>>70189384
>But Elira was extremely important for the Nijisanji EN, she had to manage them all! Without her Nijisanji EN wouldn't exist!

>> No.70189550

>>70189267
>Hololive has had 2 graduations and 2 terminations.
As the JP bros said "Niggersanji content is all graduations"

>> No.70189604

>>70189158
>I'm curious if some posters are actually livers themselves
With the amount of seething and deflecting ofc they're here.

>> No.70189610

>>70189525
The leaker revealed that Uki's suspension may be ending sooner than expected.

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70189636

>>70189353
kek picrel

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>>70189384
>>69009739

>> No.70189651

>>70189371
>Mysta, Nina, Pomu, Selen
just think about it, the top male earner and the top 3 female earners. this is more like a professional sports club firing its first team.

>> No.70189835

>>70189525
>Also hard to verify anything when niji is doing nothing

The proof is in the pudding. LK says things that are verifiable and is proven right. This other leaker (read: larper) only vaguely responds to drama posts with shit that is never going to be verified one way or the other. They have no real chips on the table, they just stand over people's shoulder and egg them on.

>> No.70189837

>>70189651
Damn is like there is a pattern...

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70189934

>>70189837
NOOOOOOO YOU ARE SCHIZO FOR SEEING A CONNECTION

>> No.70190097

>>70189835
And then you realize the way nijien operates now is "read what 4ch predicts and do the opposite" (they must be proud of themselves).

>> No.70190132

>>70189383
leaker-san made a lot more posts than are in that document. its not as flashy though as LK was I admit, but multiple anons have tested leaker-san, especially with relation to LK and coheasion of their statements. I also think leaker-san pointed out first that Scarle was indeed bullied before the FF thing was found. its also important to note that nothing leaker-san said was denied by LK afterwards.
Its true there is some space for doubt still though. but "only responded to dramaposts" isnt actually correct.

>> No.70190340

>>70190132
Okay, can you provide any of these posts that have any verifiable info in them and aren't just responding to drama?

>> No.70190354

>>70189934
Holy shit, now the penny dropped for me too

>>70189837
>>70189651
Well spotted anons

>> No.70190516

>>70177886
>check comments
>full of she/her/they/them/shit defending kurosanji
>nijifags israel
nijifags never going to recover from that

>> No.70190680

>>70190516
>full of she/her/they/them/shit defending kurosanji
I guess they have no issue with suicide because it's pretty common in their community

>> No.70191315

>>70189651
>this is more like a professional sports club firing its first team.
Funny enough I was about to post a sport analogy too, in what world losing your top 3 players is a sign of a healthy workplace?

>> No.70191361

>>70191315
In the mystical fantasy world that nijisisters inhabit

>> No.70191530

>>70190680
It's so sad. 42% of Nijisanji livers end up terminating themselves.

>> No.70191814

>>70190340
no anon, I dont have postnumbers written down anywhere. I may be autistic, but Im not THAT much of a nerd. I kind of didnt think Id ever be asked that question.
the point is that what leaker-san said that I was aware of at the time always had the internal coheasion as well as coheasion with anything LK said (and there are posts from LK after some of leaker-sans posts, hence predicting that wouldnt exactly be easy, though it could be possible to just get lucky). I did test leaker-san a few times by asking trick questions and I always got answers that Id expect from someone real. this person is either telling the truth, or has everything that allegedly happened typed out in advance to remarkable detail so to still not fall into any traps or contradict themselves in any way (that anons could spot). they are more like a balancing factor than actively trying to burn down the branch, but have no issues pointing out bad actors, or kill off rrats that make no internal sense. they often post without pointing out who they are. Ive spotted them a few times and another anon that uses some kind of syntax analysis has as well.
they did predict the 39iq thing before it happened iirc? I dont think that was LK, tho Im not sure anymore, was too long ago, they did point out finanas gacha posts and also called out the uhh.. dookey bitch insider thread as being a halftruth.

>> No.70192697

>>70191814
A Rentry compiling most of Leaker-san's posts exists: Rentry.org/nijileaker/
It still needs to be updated to take into account the posts he made today.

>> No.70192795

>>70192697
Is there a similar thing for LK?

>> No.70192850

>>70192795
Not that I know of.

>> No.70192925

>>70192697
wait there were posts today? can you link me?

and yes, Im very aware of these posts, two of them are responses to questions I asked. there are others. a lot of leaker-sans posts werent included in this compilation because it was not that relevant to anything even when we knew it was leaker-san posting. This is because leaker-san doesnt just respond to drama posts as someone said previously.

>> No.70192957

>>70192925
Yes, I will search the archives and give links, hope the thread stays up long enough.

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