/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Fuck it, we need activity
Drop your link and I will watch three mins of your latest VOD and tell you something I liked and something I disliked

>>7007834
Sure. I didn't get many viewers for this most recent stream, but I had fun anyways. Feedback is always welcome.

https://twitch.tv/profbloomvtuber

>>7007834
not my latest vod but if you wouldn't mind!
https://www.twitch.tv/elliottambers/v/1093765703?sr=a

>>7009066
>My wife absolutely loves Sea of Thieves
>My wife
ngmi

>>7009066
Watching from 1:17:00 to 1:20:00 and I really like your commentary and tangents. I think your biggest issue is outside of streams like networking and marketing. I think your content and ability to entertain is fine.

>>7008956
Watched from minute 29 to 35
>Good thing
Your understanding is apparent and made your summary of the read paragraphs incredibly natural. The middle-english came out fluid.
>Bad thing
Some sort of pointer to the line you're reading would be useful.
That model is clipart level. You don't need the best avatar in the world but this is is too simple/bland.

>>7009066
Watched from minute 54 to 60.
>Good thing
No dead air. Not a single second. What you're talking about isn't substanceless either. This is an incredible feat too since there wasn't a single line of dialogue during that segment either. It was all you.
>Bad thing
Kind of echoey, like you're in a large room. Compared to ProfBloom at least. Might just be me.

how do people manage the schizo feelings of essentially talking to yourself during most of the start in your streaming career?

>>7009681
Thanks anon! Good idea with the pointer to underline the reading. That would be easy to make myself and customize, too. Maybe a quill pen or something, and I can use it for future reading streams. Glad the Middle English came out clearly, I haven't used it in well over a decade.

And it literally is clip art that I started out with. I've got actual art in the works, and a vroid model, so that'll be fixed soon. Thanks for the feedback! I don't know if I'll continue reading the Canterbury Tales, since I think that's a pretty niche appeal among already niche reading streams. And I don't have side by side text for the stuff after the general prologue, so it would be strictly Middle English with me translating.

>>7009363
She streams with me on a regular basis... gomen...
>>7009503
Yeah, I do really need to work more on networking and reaching out; I feel like there was a point where I was fairly active on twitter when I first started but it's slowed down a lot since then.
>>7009681
I've actually been planning to pick up a Scarlett solo along with an AT2020 which I've heard is a pretty solid setup once my next paycheck comes in; I'm currently working with a Blue Snowball at the moment and I know a lot of people talk about how it's a garbage mic, lmao

>>7010043
I used to use the Blue Snowball until very recently. It's a lot better for recording than live broadcast because of its omnidirectional nature. Hard to eliminate background noises, though.

Also, a husband and wife chuuba duo is cute.

>>7011201
Yeah, background noise is the main reason I've made the decision to upgrade; we recently got a second computer in the room and her just typing across the room gets picked up real clearly ;_;
And if you think that's cute I'd recommend you check out Leon and Alice since they always stream together! They're real fun to watch too!
https://www.twitch.tv/leonandalice

>>7007834
>Fuck it, we need activity
I think the fact that the thread's been dying more often is just a sign of the times. There aren't enough new anons coming in who want to become vtubers and the ones who have, most are already streaming and don't need to hang out in this thread. If it dies, it dies. The vtuber boom was bound to die anyway.

>>7011576
this timeloop happens every few weeks and has been since the thread's inception
we always get a couple new anons who start posting their stuff and then they either start streaming or come back with more advice; even last thread we had that battle network looking anon put up his design

>>7011756
one or two a week isn't enough to keep the thread ailve. if it dies, just let it die.

Anyone have a good keyboard recommendation? Preferable full-size with a numpad, and mechanical switches. I don't care about RGB (and would actually prefer without).

>>7012191
Ducky is pretty much the go-to.

>>7009933
How do you think people recorded let's plays?

I've been lurking since the threads were still called /auds/, silently reading and taking advice

>>7009933
I talk to myself all the time anyways, especially if I've got something I'm working out in my mind. I'll take a walk and talk myself through something. If you're self-conscious, try narrating yourself while cooking a meal or something.

>>7012463
Don't tell me you haven't started streaming yet Anon...

>>7012223
Thanks, I'll probably get one of the One 2 full-size ones. I don't know how people function without a number pad. Those mini ones freak me out.

>>7012191
Leopold if you can get your hands on one in your country. Super nice boards with zero flashy lighting options and the best keycaps on the market.

>>7012664
i have a friend who uses a 70% keyboard and has a separate USB numberpad. when they game, they put the numberpad on the left as a set of hotkeys, when they're working, they put it on the right like a standard 100% keyboard.

>>7012570
I've done a few practice streams to some friends, but haven't been doing my reps often because I'm preparing to study abroad. I've streamed very infrequently since 2012 or so, so it's mostly just shaking off rust and getting back into the mindset. I have a rough design being worked on to start pngtubing, but my artist won't send me WIP shots...

>>7012831
That's not a bad idea, but I'd be using this keyboard for both regular work and streaming, so I think I'll stick with what I know and am comfortable with.

>>7012730
Going to look into this as well before pulling the trigger on a Ducky, thanks anon.

>>7007834
I'll take the opportunity to shill
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1096165461

>>7013060
Minute 47 to 60
>Good thing
You did well dealing with a (largely) dead chat. Playing around a bit and experimenting ingame is a good thing (like you did getting the Ball Power). Your experience with the game helped a lot. Hunting secrets is content. The weirdness about the red dot in the air is fun. Going off stuff like that is entertaining.
>Bad thing
A bit more color in your voice would be good. A bit more tension, excitement, intonation. It'll come naturally.
When you talk about the "someone says no spoilers" you have a good energy in your vocals that is missing a bit in the rest of what I've seen.
You mentioned filtering yourself in parts. Feel free to set that filter looser and talk about your interests. Careful not to slip into menhera tho.

You need to network. Your stream is good to look at, you can show yourself infront of other people.

>>7007834
Sure sure!
https://twitch.tv/pommemade

Keep in mind that I'm only one stupid fag with a lot of time on his hands. Don't take my opinions as ultimate, they're subjective.

>>7013902
Minute 80 to 87
>Good thing
You have a good playfulness and light personality (laughing at the end of sentences, airboxing outside the challenge, etc). You started talking even next to the workout to give the audience more than moans, that's fantastic. I like your genki-ish but not too loud style.
>Bad thing
Stream more.

>>7014183
Prince-sama, will you be around in the next week? I wouldn't mind getting a royal's thoughts when I start streaming!

>>7009933
>>7012470
Same. I just pace around and talk aloud in the course of my everyday life, so talking to no one doesn't feel weird to me.

Even so, I still feel like I get really self-conscious and awkward on stream. Like I can't get into that same groove while recording. And if a chatter happens to show up, I just panic and sound like an anxious dumbass. I think I'm doing a little better each time, but it's stressful.

>>7014300
Give me a date. I can't promise I won't forget you though.

>>7014544
July 27th!

>>7012930
If you want a numpad but still want to save a bit of space, Leopold has an option for that too.
I use something similar and I love it, personally.

>>7014183
Wow, thank you for taking a look! I've never been called genki before haha. I sometimes worry that I might not have a lot to say so I try to minimize the dead air by just rambling. But I'll be sure to keep this in mind! Hopefully the streams will start rolling again tomorrow. Thanks again, I appeciate it!

HOW DO I MAKE IT AS A MALE. FUCK. THERE IS NO AUDIENCE THAT ISN'T ALREADY TAKEN UP BY NINJA AND SHROUD AND OTHER FACECAMS.

>>7007834
Ah shit if only I checked if a new thread was up, you could've watched live!
I've already been making markers as I streamed so I know some of the better moments to turn into a highlight later, but I'm curious if you'll find a moment I overlooked.

https://twitch.tv/shanaha_vt

do i need to have commercial use over a png to start pngtubing?

>>7015589
not a lawyer, not your lawyer, not legal advice.

if you're not making money, and it's not something obviously copyrighted (simpsons, mickey mouse), you're probably okay for now.

but if you ever make money on it, you're fucked. best bet is find a copyright free one, or commission one on fiverr or something for like $20.

unsplash and pixabay are both free-to-use, although they don't have loads of pngs.

>>7014985
By being funny, likeable, and genuine. That's it. Succeeding as a male is difficult because of the demographic preferring female streamers, but a lot of the males don't make it because they're fucking boring and unfunny.

>>7015589
just scribble your own and avoid the hassle

>>7015798
oh and probably get a few crumbs thrown to you by larger (most likely) female vtubers.

>>7014985
Do you watch any male vtubers? If so, why? If not, why not? Answer yourself these and then think about what it is you want to do.

>>7015745
It is commissioned art, I just want to get a headstart before I actually have my model all going, I'll probably see if I can get permission first then

what's up with koreans and deep voices?

>>7017523
Used to live there, lots of Korean guys have deep voices. Lots smoke, so that may be a factor.

>>7017684
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1096707576?t=1h29m29s
was looking for male vtubers that i could learn from, and came across this english speaking korean vtuber who basically just ASMRs his audience to sleep during minecraft

>>7010043
>Scarlett solo
Careful with those, apparently some of them have this weird irreparable hardware problem that causes a bunch of static in your voice. I returned mine and bought a U-Phoria UM2. It was like half the price and it’s been working great so far.

>>7017738
Very deep voice, though more vocal fry than resonant. Very pleasant to listen to.

if i want to lean harder into the keyfabe how do i avoid being overbearing to the viewers and in collabs later down the line?

>>7018248
>kayfabe in collabs
how would this even work?

>>7018248
>>7018264
Look at how Kongou does it, when people collab with him it's a very controlled environment where kayfabe is understood and established

>>7018369
but he doesn't kayfabe because it's not relevant to the collab. he voice acts if that's if that's what you're talking about.

>>7018248
By not wasting time leaning into kayfabe to begin with. No one wants to RP with you.

>>7018248
What's your kayfabe and why do you want to lean into it more?

>>7017738
Seeing stuff like this always gets me torn on whether I should be high energy or chill like this. I can do both naturally. I have a deep voice but I like pitching it up slightly to be more emotive because I feel like I 'perform' that way better.
>so then keep doing what you prefer
Sure, but I have to wonder if I'm gimping myself.

>>7019937
Viewers love "real voice" reveals. It's prime clipbait.

>>7019937
do what is easiest for you. nothing stops you from having multiple voices too. make it part of your kayfabe or turn it into a channel points redeem to switch back and forth

>>7020178
Now there's an idea, using channel points for voice or language.

>>7013892
Thanks Anon. Took me a while to reply because I was trying to think up a well-written thanks as a response but I couldn't think of anything meaningful! I do greatly appreciate the feedback.

So here's a question

YouTube or twitch?
What are the benefits and drawbacks of each?

>>7021191
Multistream to both when you start out and then go full in on Twitch when you unlock Affiliate (not that difficult). YouTube has little discovery for streamers while Twitch has raids, gamification, and a lot more incentives. I recommend learning how to maintain your YouTube though since you might get subs and people coming in when you multistream.

>>7021191
If you have to ask this question by this point you haven't lurked long enough. It's been asked so many times I don't know why the OP doesn't have something better than just multistream. Twitch is considered all around better for streaming and discoverability within long form content while Youtube should be used for short form content like clips, highlights, reviews, analysis videos, etc.

>>7021476
Well
Why don't the hologirls use twitch?

>>7021777
Because Japan doesn't have a huge twitch base at all

>>7021852
So basically use twitch
But still run a YouTube channel for other shit

>>7020301
the problem with channel redeem points is that there's just SO MUCH you could do that it's very challenging to come up with unique and fun redeem stuff. but there's a LOT of good stuff that you can come up with.

I streamed today, I got derailed by chat and started talking about birds instead of doing what I planned and this was much more fun than doing what I had planned. Having people chatting on your stream is really nice and makes things more enjoyable

>>7022616
nice! keep it up, anon!

>>7021947
I've got some good ideas for mine so I think I'll go ahead and implement those. I hope people enjoy them! What are some of the most creative ones you've seen?

>>7022878
>sound redeems audience members can time for comedic effect during story games
>voice over effects that viewers can toggle on/off
>fun props viewers can stick onto your model (and others can redeem points to take off props, so you start a back and forth fight between viewers redeeming things)
>model toggles / outfit / hairstyle toggles
>Callie Calico has a whole animation that's tied to her kayfabe that's a magical girl transformation scene that her viewers can redeem

>>7023045
I think I'll make one that takes like 5k, but I'll record a quick barbershop tag with their name in it. That would be a lot of fun

What are some of the common mistakes that people make in their early streams? I haven't started streaming yet, but I wanted to give it a shot soon and don't want to blunder on entry.

>>7028147
wasting a shit ton of time on things that don't matter like emotes, transition animations, twitch panels, wasting time setting up fancy animated alerts and worrying more about getting your streamlabs donation link set up than thinking about what kind of content you'll be making

>>7028240
Putting the cart before the horse, basically

>>7028240
How much preparation should you do then? I get not doing any of the fancy stuff but is getting the png, a little blurb about yourself and a twitter to interact and say when you're streaming enough to get going?

>>7030170
a list of topics to zatsudan with yourself constantly for 3 hours so you don't have large chunks of dead air on your stream, a cup of water to hydrate or your mouth will get pastey and make gross sound

>>7030229
Gotcha, thanks for answering

I see networking being mentioned a lot, but how does one get started on that? Go to Twitter, spam popular hashtags?

>>7032073
"Networking" is the sociopathic way of saying "go make friends."

>>7032175
Well shit, I haven't been able to do that since highschool.

>>7032339
You can do it if you try, anon. Find people with similar interests and talk to them.

>>7032175
Making friends isn't the problem. Making friends with people I don't know or even like is.

>>7033765
So get to know them? Watch some streams and see what interests you. Or go it alone and see if you can carve out your own niche. No rules, anon, the world's your oyster.

>>7019739
>>7019873
This makes me think justt how much can you lean on kayfabe. I play a character for the most part, but I want to show a bit more of myself as time goes on.
As for voice, I don't think I can do different voices so I will just go with my own voice. Is this a mistake in case some recognizes my voice?

>>7039013
I wouldn't worry about it too much. I mean, it's not impossible that one of my students could recognize my voice, but I could just hit them with the ol "what are you talking about?" The odds of getting recognized are very low, though.

>>7039013
>"they tell me I've got one of those voices, thanks."
there you go

>>7039705
Whenever I play Echo VR all the kids playing swear up and down that I sound like some famous YouTuber (I'm not). You've got easy plausible deniability

>>7039558
>>7039705
I see, thanks anons.
About the kayfabe, I want to keep certain stuff in-character, like remembering stuff but changing details to match the "lore" part. Also I want to play a tsundere ojou a bit.

>>7039860
i still on't know how that 'kayfabe' will play into your streams outside of voice acting. can you give an example?

>>7039930
Oh I'm not that anon about the voice acting, I'm just curious about the whole kayfabe thing.

>>7040268
>I'm just curious about the whole kayfabe thing.
that's what i'm confused about. what part of kayfabe would you be showing on stream? from the pov of a viewer, where does the kayfabe come in?


are you going to play a game and constantly try and reference some part of your lore that viewers don't know about because it 'builds the universe'? are you gonna have a zatsudan and poorly try to disguise real life stories about yourself but replace words with your kayfabe lore? like how does it actually play a part in your stream?

>>7040379
Ahhh, okay, got you. I think I would use it more for zatsudans to poorly disguise real life stories. Nothing contrived or anything.

GIVE ME MY MODEL! I WANT MY MODEL!

>>7041305
>he doesn't have his model

NGMI

>yfw wave 3 and 4 are reincarnations from the same circles again

>>7041828
That's probably the case, why hire out of it when it's a circle of larger, successful vtubers.

>>7041828
Wave 3 and 4 of /asp/ or /wvt/?

>>7042443
think they mean niji

>>7041305
NO GIVE IT TO ME! I DESERVE IT MORE

>wanna draw my own model
>why not rig it myself too
>show it off to some friends
>apparently good enough to get comissioned for 2 more models/rigging
>work so much on comissions that i've not worked on setting up my channels when i planned to debut last month
maybe i should just make models instead of being a chuba myself...

>>7042723
You could do both! Debuting yourself could be a good form of advertising for your commissions.

well while i wait on my png i guess i have two weeks to start fiddling with obs and getting some generic overlays that i like, anyone have recommendations on good places to comb through?

>>7044843
Streamelements usually has some good free overlays. Sometimes you could find some on Twitter as well.

>>7044843
Check the general pastebin.
Also if I were you I’d record some practice streams over the next few weeks. The difference between a cold stream and a lightly practiced stream is pretty big in my experience.

>>7044843
i'd agree with >>7045059 too; even if you don't have a png, once you make your overlay try doing practice streams where you just try talking to yourself while doing whatever you planned on streaming just to get yourself into the groove of talking and performing

If you're thinking of starting out, go through the vtuber tag on twitch and see how many vtubers are out there and how you'd be different than them and not drown in the sea of vtubers

https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all/tags/52d7e4cc-633d-46f5-818c-bb59102d9549

>>7019873
i'd like to play an undead character that has his own manor and i want to rp more because it'd be fun to me

>>7047294
You don't need to be different, the top vtubers aside from a few cases aren't any different than any other vtuber a tenth of their size. if anything you should be the same as the people you want to grow to be.

>>7043004
legit this
previous commission offering attempts usually resulted in massive dead air, but since streaming I'll get small bursts from time to time with emotes and considering opening L2D though my style is quite a bit different than the usual vtuber style

>>7048828
Yeah, originality isn't necessarily a boon. Just have an attractive design that suits what you want to do. The rest is up to you.

Not a Vtuber (yet), but I uploaded my very first game review on to Youtube yesterday, got 2 likes and 1 comment saying that it was a good review in spite of the stupid accent, so yay, progress!

>>7053026
I'm proud of you anon

so is the ideal niji application video an introduction into "practise stream" and then top it off with some clips? I think Pomu said that's how hers looked?Dunno if any others commented on how their videos looked

I'm looking into maybe doing a book reading during streams, but making sure to pick a copy-right free one so no YMCA issues.

But I'm pngtubing, so the screen would be EXCEPTIONALLY boring. Any ideas on how to brighten it up?

>>7055666
voice acting. that's really all you've got

>>7055666
when you do reading streams there's nothing else except your voice. no amount of gimmicks on the screen can carry it.

>>7055666
As someone currently doing this, for one stream, I read a long poem with accompanying illustrations, and made sure to use distinct voices for characters, and to read clearly and smoothly. For my most recent reading stream, I was half reading, half explaining, and had fitting royalty free background music at a low volume.

I'll likely be reading on stream again tonight, but it'll be poetry followed by light analysis, not a novel or something like that.

Make sure you're familiar enough with what you're reading that you won't stumble over your words. Do a test recording for about five minutes, and then listen back to it.

>>7055873
Excellent advice, do you have a link, or not /here/?

>>7055853
>>7055701
Thanks for the warnings. It's more just what the hell do I keep on screen? I could do a browser capture of what I'm reading, I guess?

>>7056090
Sure, here's me reading and explaining the Canterbury Tales.
>>7008956

I think it's good to have the text on screen for the listener.

streaming is hard, bros.

>>7058669
Go through the vtuber tag on twitch and see how many 1 viewer streams there are

>>7058669
Streaming is easy, finding an audience is harder

>>7058704
why would i do this? it just makes me feel worse.
>>7058761
wondering why i'd even bother

>>7055666
I usually stick with fairy tales, poems, and other stuff old enough that it'd probably be in the public domain.

>>7058817
you just have to realize the hard truth that there are a lot grinding, not just you

>>7059065
>that there are a lot grinding,
there's gotta be a better way. no way that after so many years of being an established career, streaming just boils down to "grind it out"

>>7059089
Why wouldn't it boil down to that? Think of any other career. No one starts at the top.

>>7059164
no office worker ends up as a ceo by just grinding data entry

>>7058817
>>7059089
>expects a golden ticket with no talent
ngmi

>>7059233
>projection
ngmi

>>7059255
Whatever helps you sleep at night

>>7059360
i'm asking for a way to grow better. work smarter, not harder. where the fuck you getting "golden ticket" from

>>7059089
I've known streamers that didn't make until 2-3 years of grinding it out. Heck, even ironmouse was on that grind and didn't make it until last year and streaming for 2-3 years averaging 40 or less viewers

>>7059377
Are you making connections with people who will help you grow? Are you making content you yourself would want to watch? Or are you just streaming and grumbling that after a month you're still getting two viewers per stream?

>>7059377
you'll need to grind it out but things that may help are
>networking reps, make friends though this may be hard if you're always like this
>hop on trends ie popular games, twitter fads etc
>clip yourself if there's anything worth clipping

>>7059377
Leech and shill, pay for promo, or both

>>7059466
Paying for promo just sounds sad

>>7060496
Nijisanji pays for ads. Vshojo pays clippers. This is all you can do besides grind. Be shameless.

>>7060604
Then you have /asp/ies like Retsu who paid out the ass for a model from a popular artist expeditiously, continuously commissions skebs, pays a 'manager', and so on. That's the reality.

>>7060669
and she barely hits 50 despite all that

>start my first stream
>10 viewers in chat constantly trying to talk to me
>can't focus on the game and keep dying
This shit is hard.

>>7060700
She's only been streaming for 2 months and regularly hits 30 which is still ridiculously good progress

>>7059089
It's mostly luck. Look into any large enough streamer and they admit it. People share a video of Ludwig's tips and he says about as much. Follow the scene long enough and you'll see people who have everything going for them including talent, hard work and connections get stuck.
People just don't want to admit it because it's actually sadder to think you're good and won't ever make it than it is to think you're just bad and not there yet.

Quick, post the best male EN chuubas so I can see what the Nijisanji competition's like

>>7060993
you have to take into account the money that she dropped. it's not just 2 months of streaming.
>big name jp artist for model
>well known en rigger for rigging
>buying upvotes on reddit for 2k upvotes but only 20 comments

>>7059399
Yeah but for mouse it was more about needing to talk to people and not feel completely cut off from society

>>7061254
https://www.twitch.tv/aisriale
https://www.twitch.tv/xkittymcpancakes/
probably two of the biggest i know of that didn't have a big past life
randon has also inclined hella hard since february especially for being on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMfMBbR9UBNvUyN8fujbJVw

>>7061142
Basically this
Like in real life the key is faking, networking and being scummy as fuck

I kinda want to become a streamer in the hopes of collabing with my oshi

>>7062917
if they're big.. it will take years and thats if they accept

>>7062917
If your oshii is ollie you got a chance even if you're nobody
She watches every vtuber
Every single one

>>7063026
That would surely be great exposure if you somehow caught the attention of someone like Ollie as a smaller chuuba

>>7007375
Hey guys, I'll actually be streaming some VR games in a few. You can join in if you'd like!
https://twitch.tv/pommemade

>>7062951
small indie
I think I have a chance bros

>>7059065
>grinding
You shouldn't be grinding in general

The first stage of grinding should be figuring out your niche. If you're another skyrim streamer, no matter how good you are, I'm not going to be interested as a cold start.

If you're playing something I'm interested in, I'll be much more likely to show up. If it's something you're interested in, you'll be much more likely to hold my attention.

Stay away from FOTM unless you've got a big enough following to accept losing a chunk of them.

>>7060669
She does pretty decent considering she invested quite a bit for her VTuber. Too bad some of that investment cant go for a better machine to stream on.

>>7062752
Wasn’t Ais Riale known for doing a lot of fandubs in the past? He did pretty decent in his old YT channel for it. Not sure if he kept his connections after leaving that past behind though.

>>7064567
I think you're confusing Ais with Takahata101 who became a vtuber and carried his DBZ Abridged fanbase with him
I usually avoid bringing up people like Taka and Bahroo since they had very known existing fanbases so its not a situation anyone here will really be able to relate to

>>7065510
Is Ais not Sinyuvuu? I thought at some point his fans were desperate to look for Sin ever since he went ghost, and then connected that with Ais. That’s how I found out about Ais’ existence anyway.

>>7065671
oh i
i did not know that

Would someone be willing to critique my cringe pre png concept that I made?

>>7066607
sure, please don't have a fucking mask.

>>7066718
No mask thankfully. It'd be an evil mastermind sorta thing with various robots for everything.

>>7062752
Based on the existing EN I kind of doubt they'll be interested in people trying way too hard to put on a voice like Ais and Kitty. I can see a guy with a 'regular' voice like randon getting in, but I also get the feeling that they'll be looking for guys with zoomer humor. There's a lot more viable candidates imo, like pomu and elira's old group, but they're never talked about on this site since nobody watches western vtubers (/wvt/ is entirely comprised of creators who post here). I can't name any other guys either so i'm just as guilty, but I'm just saying.

>>7065671
>Sinyuvuu
I took a look and damn, those videos are hard to sit through.

>>7007375
I was over before it even began
RIP
https://youtu.be/NhPDM1vOKN8

>>7067278
is that what your png will look like in the end or is it just a concept sketch that you'll have someone else draw? honestly, it's generic as fuck as another guy-in-a-suit no. 14

>>7067574
lmao, get fucked

>>7067574
Is anyone surprised?

>>7067278
An idea that’s kinda used before (ex; NightParadox). Better than being the millionth cat boy hoodie tho. Kind of a basic design you got going, despite the concept.

>>7067511
His shtick is to play the soft boi that goes crazy yandere. Guess a lot of girls are into that. Weird weab BFE. His light nsfw stuff was funny af but those are gone.

I still haven't gotten any views on my Nijisanji audition video. Is anyone in the same boat?
The other 3 girls I know who also auditioned have gotten views on theirs so now I'm worried I might have fucked up somehow and aaaaa....

>>7068142
>>7068275
It's just a sketch yeah, but I'm just worried if I add to much more that it'll look too busy and cluttered. What do you think that I could do to make it less generic and more distinct?

>>7068718
don't do a suit.
don't do high school dark and edgy dude.

>>7068718
honestly if your idea is to be a male, you've already lost.
the only way to be a male vtuber is to pander to furries.

>>7067574
If you have no gimmick or twist, then you shouldn't start your own vtuber company

I just did a "deep dive" into the low view chuubas.
>https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all/tags/52d7e4cc-633d-46f5-818c-bb59102d9549 sorted by viewers, low to high
>I only clicked on the ones not playing popular games (Pokemon, Stardew, Genshin Impact, MonHun, Subnautica, etc.)
>I stayed for a minute or two if they weren't streaming with friends, because I want the chuuba, not their entire social circle.
>Half of them barely talked at all, so I left.
>Three were good about talking often, two of which had accents.

The first of those three, ZelsMilk, was constantly reading the game prompts and talking about what was happening in the game (a 2D Korean horror game, The Coma 2: Vicious Sisters) and what he was planning to do. His 2d design had motion and was alright, his accent wasn't bad, but I got bored because he didn't talk about anything more than the game. I stayed for around five to ten minutes.

The second was goddess_606, playing an old RPGMaker horror game, Ib. Cute accent, reads all of the game prompts, does voices for characters (which I'm not a fan of), does a decent job of continuously talking. Unfortunately, the same problem Zels has she has, where she is mostly reading the game and talking about what she's planning to do, nothing else besides that. 100% static png, plain design but fine. Stayed for about the same time as Zels.

The third was TriangularKiwi, a two-state blue triangle png (think Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls) playing Oregon Trail II. She didn't talk as much as the other two, which was her downfall. I'd liked to have heard more about the decisions she was making, because she seemed experienced and was choosing options quite fast. Unfortunately, that made the stream boring to watch because I didn't understand much of what was going on and there wasn't much chatter to either keep me informed or to keep me entertained. Stayed for a bit less than the others.

So, I guess my thoughts on this are, if you want me as a viewer:
>Stream something you enjoy that isn't popular/commonly played
>Preferably a game that doesn't rely on you reading all the time (like Ib)
>Talk as much as you can about the game (not just reading it) or about your thought process at the minimum.
>Preferably, use the game to talk about what it means to you (if you're experienced with it) or commentating on what is happening in the game and expanding on it past small one-liners like "Man, these corpses are freaky."

Thank you for coming to my TedX talk.

>>7069070
Are you the same anon who was doing reviews of peoples channels yesterday?

>>7069184
No, I'm just bored and delaying working on my own png!

>>7068718
I guess emphasize the robot idea in someway. Otherwise you’re just evil dude with a suit number 3892922. Kinda sucks because male designs are hard in general and even harder to become a successful vtuber

Generic designs are fine as long as they're done by a good artist.
It only looks cringe when its some DA tier trash by some emofaggot.

>>7063673
Thank you once again those of you who came to my workout stream! Sorry if I was out of energy during the last stretch. Hopefully we can do this again tomorrow at an earlier time. Critique, criticisms, and general grievances always welcomed!

>>7069411
>>7068746
Thanks for the opinions. I'll have to see if I can think of someway to improve it.

>>7069885
Just hire a decent artist.
A torso up drawing should be around $100 even from a pretty high tier artist.

>>7069298
>>7069885
Meant to thank you for your opinion as well
>>7069973
Yeah, I'll be doing that soon. Ive seen a few that should be good for making something.

>>7068489
i'm in the same boat, but it...may also depend on if they're still going through them or not? who knows, but i share your worry aha.... we'll see once it reaches a full month though, anon! so don't lose hope yet. which did you, and the other 3 audition for? it may also mean that they're sorting out the popular choices first, before looking through the ones with the least audition choices.

>>7070187
I'm glad I'm not the only one at least, phew... Yeah, I should definitely be more patient. The wait is just killing me. I don't expect to get in, but just knowing my attempt got seen and had a fair shot is good enough...
I'm sure we'll eventually get seen though, ganbare anon...!!!
I auditioned for the ghost! 2 of my friends auditioned for the cat and my other friend auditioned for the kitsune.

I can't speak for nijisanji but as a HR person myself, I always randomly throw half the applications in the trash before reading them.

VTubing is a profession highly based on luck, I wouldn't want someone unlucky working for my agency.

>>7070622
we all should, and I definitely relate to that feeling! mine submitted just on a whim, and yet i'm still feeling anxious about it lmao. ganbare! ganabre!!
oh! then they're definitely going for the popular choices, some anons said a few weeks ago that the cat and kitsune (or ghost?) were going to be a battle so, with that in mind...yeah, anyone that didn't pick them might have to wait awhile. I myself picked the bird so, pft....

>>7068489
>>7070187
>>7070622
No views on mine either, but honestly not expecting much since I'm a nobody.
Talking about that, I'm starting as a vtweeter since like wednesday-thursday and have gotten a small following, pretty excited about it. My regret is not doing this BEFORE sending my Niji application, but shit's done can't do anything about it.

That aside, are you here, Shimada-senpai? I started following you about two months ago or so and this is hitting like Coco all over again.

>>7070890
It was kitsune and cat the ones that are a battle royale and most auddition-bait out of the bunch.

>>7070890
personally hoping that ghost girl gets a fake lulu to voice her.
i wanted to apply for her, but my throat is still recovering.

>>7070897
i think in reality, we're all mostly nobodies, aren't we? but any opportunity to strike gold, is always something that can be taken. but oh? at least for next audition, you'll be able to use that as an excuse for the following questions.

>>7070978
hopefully! it's a shame you weren't able to apply for her, but i hope your throat is having a smooth recovery.

>>7070749
Based

>>7070622
sharing the same here. desu I'd be happy with a view and maybe one step into the audition but for something I told myself I wouldn't make it for I feel like I'm still gonna get a little disappointed about it...
I applied for the cat for what it's worth

>>7072374
I'm not sure where that "desu" came from but alright

>>7072409
newfagbrosis....

>>7072409
the acronym t-b-h get filtered to "desu" here

time to begin the networking grind ;~:
0 followers 0 followings lets-a-go

>>7069070
>Unfortunately, the same problem Zels has she has, where she is mostly reading the game and talking about what she's planning to do, nothing else besides that
I’m curious about this point. If you’re a small time streamer, what else could you talk about that isn’t the game you’re playing? You can’t really interact much with the chat if you don’t have viewers, and I imagine that continuously talking about random things unrelated to the game would shoo away people who came for the game in the first place.

>>7073291
Basically have stories or things to say prepared for downtime during the game, but gameplay comes first.
I don't watch a ton of Mito streams, but the few I did were good examples typically. She'd play the game and react to things as needed, but during times there's less activity she'd be doing zatsudans essentially.

so if you're playing apex, all that empty space you're running around doing nothing can be filled with story time.
people aren't expecting a random anime girl to talk about the deep intricates of APEX for 4 hours straight.

>>7073291
I was gonna type something up, but >>7073465 basically. Elliot Tambers does a good job up here >>7009066 with a game he knows very well. If you don't know the game well, then yeah, zatsudan like >>7073465 said. Just talk about anything if the game has lots of downtime or isn't complex/hard to follow just by watching.

>>7073465
>>7073614
So for example, if I play some historical games, during downtime where I’m just focusing on development or moving troops around, instead of just commenting on what I’m doing or plan on doing, I could talk about some fun facts I know about the historical settings, right?

>>7071306
Niji seems to be going sonic speeds with forming their EN branch and catching up to Holo, so I can see them opening auditions relatively soon again.
>>7072855
Good luck, anon. My networking efforts are giving better results than I expected, this is actually getting me pumped up.

>>7074236
Yeah, that's great! I love people talking about their interests and hobbies, especially if it's topical.

>>7074236
Yeah, though imo work on more of longer stories rather than just reading off a line of trivia cards.

Like if you've ever had an interesting history professor and how they describe historical events in fun ways, do it like that.

>>7074438
>>7074519
Ah okay, understood. I’m a really boring guy and don’t have that many life stories to talk about, but fortunately I’m pretty autistic about the Three Kingdoms and the Sengoku periods. I should be fine if I play the games I’m comfortable with, I think.

>>7075031
>Three Kingdoms
If you can be half as autistic as Mayaya from Kuragehime, I will listen to you talk about it for hours

>>7069070
Thanks for this, this is the kind of advice I'm looking for but is hard to find on the internet (maybe I'm just not looking in the right places). I just started streaming this week and I'm insecure about spewing a lot of verbal diarrhoea. I want to stay topical so the story idea mentioned >>7073465 is a bit hard for blind playthroughs (though I am trying!) and what ends up happening is a lot of game related thought process talk. In your opinion is it essential to kill almost all dead air or are there times when just being quiet are alright too?

>>7074411
Any tips? Given that I have 0/0 I have no idea what to do outside of really just following a couple vtubers or something

>>7075330
I’m saying this with the POV of a viewer, but I think during the gameplay segments, you should kill dead air as much as you can, except for intense moment in the game where you need to be quiet for a bit to not ruin the atmosphere of the game (sorry, can’t really think of a good example right now, maybe the zombie reveal scene in RE1?). During cutscenes segments, you should exaggerate your reactions so the viewers can notice your reactions more easily, but try not to overreact too much that it takes the viewers out of the cutscene.

>>7075299
It would help if you look like a supermodel though.

>>7062752
Even Randon is an iffy example because he's not actually that big even though he definitely puts in the work and puts in way more money than most vtubers since he's hired editors out of the gate. Compare him to like, Cimrai or even girls around his size that put in way less time and his entire argument that male vtubers are fine because he's fine completely falls apart. I respect the guy though.

>>7077327
Man fuck Cimrai. Bitch rolled in with money and connections out the ass.

>>7075330
Those were just my thoughts as I was watching them. Although I doubt they're universal, I'd say first impression is the hardest to overcome. If the air is dead—truly dead, completely and utterly, with no context to justify it—you should kill it ASAP. Dead air works during tense cutscenes where you interject at times with reactions, or when you're using dead air as a reaction to something that happened in the game, or when you're doing something cool on stream and need concentration to do it (think Callie's Terminator Rage in this clip: https://youtu.be/aW6kQFreBnY).). Those are a few examples of acceptable dead air. AS a rule of thumb, though, talking > not talking nine out of ten times.

>>7077442
I just brought her up because Randon is actually more or less the same thing. Unique model with a fantasy bent, way more money involved than 99% of the vtuber scene, and tons of boosting. I think he's a much better vtuber than Cimrai though but he's still just slowly grinding around the 50 mark. Men are not fine even if he says so, he's comparing himself to 2view dudes when he should be comparing himself to similar women before he says men do fine.

Kitty McPancakes is the most real example of a popular true male vtuber but all that really says is "sleep with your fans for art and clout" so that's where we're at.

>>7077886
>most real example of a popular true male vtuber but all that really says is "sleep with your fans for art and clout"
he was an irl cosplayer with a fairly large fanbase pre-pandemic by traveling to international anime conventions. he's pretty far from a "true male vtuber" since he's riding the clout from his irl life (which he includes in his instagram social media connections to his vtuber account)

>>7077886
So basically. Better hope for advances in voice changers

>>7078047
>Aisriale doesn't count
>Random doesn't count
>Kitty doesn't count
WELL FUCK.

>>7078134
give an example of a vtuber who started out fresh and didn't ride on a 10+ year on career as part of TeamFourStar.

>>7077886
Randon is only at 50 still because he autistically sticks to youtube only
if he were to move to twitch he would easily sit in the 100+ area for viewers

>>7078167
People keep coping with shit like this, but the majority of female vtubers started out with other shit too. Almost all of the popular ones brought their fans from outside content creation or posting too. Or the other ones, like the vshojo girls, got into the fad extremely early and have already been streaming for years.

>>7078513
you guys in here should stop responding to this bait and this timeloop every time it comes up.
There is no male debuff. Every time someone gets posted who is a successful male there is a reason given why they don't count but a comparable woman does count

it is pure unfiltered cope and you should be able to recognize it from a mile away. If you can't you aren't going to be able to handle rrats about yourself when you become a chuuba

>>7078513
>but the majority of female vtubers started out with other shit too.
fuck off with this shit. it doesn't matter. just because women have to deal with it doesn't invalidate the struggle that males have to deal with. the entire entertainment industry is fucking shit and runs off nepotism 99% of the time, every anon already knows that.

it's just shitty trying to find a male vtuber to emulate only to find out that none exist who got there as a fresh indie. no one has said this time that women have it easier other than the trash troll memeing about voice changers.

Ryuusei Nova and Maid Mint, arguably the most 'successful' of indie women did so with cash. Mint having known for dropping $6k on an original song and music video, $5k on a model update that she only used like 4 times, and a dozen others.

>>7078690
Why are you specifying men then?
The industry is just hard in general, all entertainment is hard to get into. It was the same with youtube, its the same with streaming, its the same with anything that requires people to notice you.

Deal with it, if you can't manage than don't do it. If you don't have some skill or personality that is able to attract interest, that's your own problem and you'd never make it no matter what 'buff' you were given because you'd never have been able to build that 'buff' in the first place.

>>7078854
>>Why are you specifying men then?
because the original anon that started this fucking chain of sperg asked for CURRENT MALE VTUBERS who may be competition for the on-going Nijisanji EN Male auditions.

>>7078513
This is straight up untrue. You can just open up Twitch and there're a ton of female vtubers breaking 100 who started from basically nowhere. I think Nemu and Soya Poya basically came out of nowhere off the top of my head and you can just open up Twitch and find tons of women that break 100.

In the first place it's basically statistically impossible that there're just 30 good women for every 1 good man. A debuff has to exist to just explain the actual facts even if we're wrong about why it happens.

>>7078905
Then why are you sperging about how its unfair people got a head start?
Competition is competition no matter if they paid to get there.

>>7078926
>>In the first place it's basically statistically impossible that there're just 30 good women for every 1 good man. A debuff has to exist to just explain the actual facts even if we're wrong about why it happens.
blame men. most viewers are men and most are coomerbrainlets who flock to cute girls doing cute things. that's your "debuff"

>>7075628
Talk to people in general be vtubers or their fans, when you follow people or they follow you talk to them a little, say hi and whatnot. Use hashtags, show your model or PNG when using those hashtags; make memes like the one with the dog collar.
Also, knowing another language may help bringing people in.

>>7078926
There is actually plenty to explain it.
Men suck at socializing. Its not because they're men, its because they just suck at it.

The vast majority of male streamers are spergs who can't communicate to save their life and go off on random /pol/ tangents or rage fests because they died.

Women hide their powerlevel and know basic social skills so they can stream better. Even the most autistic woman is a better conversationalist than your average man.

>>7078047
Are you mixing up Kitty with that other guy that has the white shirt, short black hair and straps? The only thing on Kitty's Instagram are pictures of him hanging out with friends and the account itself has less than 200 followers.

>>7077327
Randon is surprisingly small despite how much I see him around but I wouldn't say he's just got a ton of money like Cimrai, the guy has an editor who found him and does work for insanely cheap. He might put in more money than the average chuuba (which is usually 0 outside of buying games) but he's not exactly breaking the bank.

>>7078645
The comparable woman doesn't count, no one is saying they don't. The point is there's a significantly higher amount of successful girls who just started from zero than there on guys. Just looking at the currently live people I can tell you that.

>>7078690
She dropped 5k on a model update after she was already successful and pulling in a ton of money. You realize these people are making upwards of thousands a month with very little IRL overhead outside of a rent and maybe a pet.

>>7079016
Thanks for the advice!
If any chuuba aspies want to drop their links I'll give them a follow as well!

>>7078964
This is it. This is the only answer there is. The current "main" demographic of V-Tubers are males who want to watch a girl. The male debuff is more of just a female buff. Males need to either just be extraordinarily good and/or lucky like Kitty, Krimbo, or Randon who have put in a ton of work and are also getting the support of a lot of female vtubers significantly larger than them, or find an entirely different demographic.

>>7079514
you could try following some of the chuubas linked in this thread
for the most part there exists a community of /asp/ies and /wvt/ chuubas and they all follow each other more or less; if you get to know a few by talking to them you'll probably get recognized

>>7079341
I am fucking jealous of that kinda income

>>7079591
Really feels like the whole conversation is more complicated than it should be. Feels like the obvious answer is always just that dudes wanna watch an anime girl and there's nothing wrong with that.

>>7079760
Yeah, no one is really at fault, males just either need to be really great or find the right audience. There's no real argument against this when you look at what a majority of the fanbase is.

Even most female vtuber friends I've made really only watch their friends as far as male vtubers go since GFE is really only aimed at the lowest common denominator

In the holostars threads, I see some viewers (male) talk about wanting to watch a stream because they want a bro to hang out with. Consider that, for whatever it's worth, I guess.

>>7079641
>>7079514
I'm the anon that started as a vtweeter recently and sometimes I think if I should drop a link here. I really wanted Shimada-senpai to notice me, but given recent developments that will have to wait. I'm still not streaming, so maybe I will be stablished by the time she comes back. That aside, my Japanese followers wouldn't mind me being on boards but not sure about westerners.

>>7080158
This is actually one of the reasons I think the male "debuff" is a thing.
Men don't want to be around pussy beta men, they want to be around chads and confident men who are reliable. They want alpha males to watch, and alpha males aren't vtubing.
Meanwhile people are okay with beta females and spazzy girls streaming because they just want to put their dick in anything.

So its more that the type of girl into vtubing is the type of girl that's attractive to men into vtubing. But the type of man who's into vtubing is the type of man nobody wants to be around.

>>7080158
Bro experience is pretty good, it's what I think Rando, PapiFubar, and a few others have.

>>7080158
that's the entire market for male streamers but the problem is that the vtuber market in the west is entirely framed by Hololive instead of Nijisanji
so it's framed as V-Idols and not V-Streamers, making everyone expect cute girls
NijiEN Male has the chance to change it but I wouldn't hold my breath, I'm doing this as a hobby and to make friends

Got a design I quite like and think I could maybe pull it off as a Vtuber. Only problem is, the design is a girl and, well, I'm a dude.
Should I just go for it? I wouldn't use TTS or anything stupid like that, it would just be a guys voice from a girl avatar. My voice isn't too masculine but it might still be disconcerting.

>>7080158
Male vtubers and a lot of male content creators live or die on the "bro" feel.
Like a lot of them focus on doing group content and giving the viewer the impression they're part of the gang along for the ride.

>>7080158
I aspire to be a bro people can feel good about hanging out with on stream, so hopefully I can find that audience. I should probably play more videogames, and ones people actually care about.

>>7080329
You can try but if there's any sort of debuff it's the Babi one. I'm a Babi who swapped to a Male model and within a month I had more viewers since I stopped filtering passerbys who found my stream.

>>7080239
shimada and many other vtubers with big followings pretty openly post on /vt/ you're fine to post your link i don't think anyone would really care

>>7080329

Give her a pet and voice the pet.
Go the Bahroo route, babiniku are a debuff

>>7080425
Yeah. I guess I could adapt the design to being a guy but I like how it is and I feel it would something I can't really describe. Maybe I'll give it a try.
I also have to be, yknow, entertaining, but that's a step for later consideration. Thanks anon.

>>7080329
babis are workable, voice changers hard filter a lot of people
if you want an example of a babi that works gyaru garou, the purple haired deer is a babi who has a large following, but also hs ties to the FGC

>>7080383
You need a posse to collab with to really get that feel.

>>7080491
Does Bahroo do well with that tho?

>>7080526
>Does Bahroo do well with that tho?
literally the most popular vtuber on twitch.
like twice vshojo popular.

>>7080498
*lose something, sorry. Not all my synapses are firing right now.
>>7080526
He's one of the biggest streamers and his count doesn't drop when he uses his model. Yes, yes he does.

>>7080526
>does bahroo do well
he's slowly grown but keeps his audience
it's important to remember he has been a 10k streamer as a nocam streamer
he's stagnated a bit recently but that has more to do with him losing interest in streaming and phoning it in, he just does gaming streams every day instead of innovating at all

>>7080491
>>7080551
I was thinking going with something inspired by futuramas brain slugs. Being the slug on the cute anime girls head.
But figured it'd be shit.

>>7080453
I know, anon. She going on indefinite hiatus after today's stream, why this feels like Coco? Can't really drop a link to channels with no content, so I'll just say Laran Bonnie on twatter.

>>7080526
You could play with a group of non-Vtubers right? I have an IRL friend group that would probably be pretty entertaining and give that bro feel on stream.

>>7080526
>>7080551

Bahroo has been streaming without a webcam for a decade and is literally Twitch royalty, his model has nothing to do with his success and only served to get him more viewers from the VTuber crowd since he's already at the top.

>>7078690
>Mint having known for dropping $6k on an original song and music video
She did not. A long time ago, she commissioned someone for her stream BGM (not $6k). Later, that person went on to form a vtuber music group with two others. As part of an advertisement for their services, the three music artists put together a song+MV, and had their three original vtuber talents sing the vocals. At no point did Mint actually pay any money for that song.

>>7080425
>>7080491
if you really need the girl, Go the puppet/pet/summoner route
https://youtu.be/H5qrx4Xb1rE?t=88

>>7080659
>Bahroo has been streaming without a webcam for a decade and is literally Twitch royalty, his model has nothing to do with his success
this. it's disingenuous to point to Bahroo as an example and conveniently leave out the fact that he's been Partner for years with a 10k active viewer audience ever before starting as a vtuber.

>>7080710
the prices are literally on their group's commission page. cope more.

>>7080526
>posse to collab with

Yeah, probably. I'll keep doing my networking and hopefully it will come in time. I wouldn't feel comfortable asking someone for a collab right now, given that I've only got like 25 followers between Youtube and Twitch combined. But I'm having a lot of fun watching other vtubers and the people who watch my streams have been very positive, so I'm feeling pretty good about how things are going. I don't mind slow growth since my content is very niche, and I'm having fun streaming.

>>7080596
>Being the slug on the cute anime girls head.
That could be cool. Get a good design

>>7080786
honestly the bait and switch would put me off as a viewer immediately

>>7080762
it's also disingenuous to not mention that he has basically stagnated for years and multiple other streamers have caught up with him
he's a good example that straight up being a backlog andy and playing blind playthroughs of games will not get you an audience
you have to innovate on yourself and come up with fresh ideas to grow

>>7080762
>the prices are literally on their group's commission page. cope more.
I mean the way they just explained it, it doesn't matter where the prices are. They made a song and got people to sing it, it doesn't mean she commissioned it unless they've flat out said so right?

>>7080526
>Does Bahroo do well with that tho?
Hes been popular but you should avoid the Babi route for your sanity and peace of mind. Unless you dont mind the insults.

Babi is absolutely afilter, you're filtering your potential audience for no real reason other than you wanna be a cute anime girl

>>7080926
the purple haired deer seems to do just fine

>>7080840
>he's a good example that straight up being a backlog andy and playing blind playthroughs of games will not get you an audience
>has 10k active viewers
>"stagnating at 10k active viewers"
this is next level mental gymnastics

>>7080893
Don't think I would. It actually might be a good thing, since I'm a bit of a sarcastic asshole and the bait-and-switch might both fit the image better and attract people who would appreciate the dry humor.
I'm just spitballing though. Who fucking knows what would happen.

>>7080824
Babis are a bigger bait-and-switch

>>7080989
as a viewer, i'm put off by both immediately

>>7080596
dunno about futurama but that sounds like a cute idea.

>someone mentions a successful male vtuber for literally any reason
>insecure beta males immediately start coping
every time.

>>7081005
I'd make the slug cuter. That nightmare creature would not convince me to stay, I'll be honest.

>>7080964
That's true, there's a very small minority of people who have succeeded so you should too. Have you looked at their viewership when they aren't running a tournament and how it's stagnant as fuck?

>>7080968
it's not though? there are people who were his size years ago along with him who are in the 20ks, there are people who started after him who are in the 80ks
Jerma985 literally started as a 2,000 viewer streamer when bahroo was still a 10k streamer and Jerma passed him because he actually innovates on himself instead of doing the same stream content day in day out

the thing to remember is there is no point where you "made it" if you're being an entertainer until you're out of the business
at every point you need to keep innovating on yourself, reinventing your content to adapt to changing tastes and improving. The grind is eternal and if you can't handle that then don't try to make this a career

>>7080596
>>7080786
>slug in the head
Please no, anon. The gimmick is fine but please find another idea for it.

>>7081038
Bezos and Gates succeeded pretty well, just copy them. simple as.

>>7080980
>Don't think I would.
Cool, you need to be confident to be a babi. If you want to be a babi just go for it. You dont need approval.

If youre doubting whether should or shouldnt be a babi, then dont. Only do it when you're sure and don't need anyone's approval

>>7081058
>it's not though? there are people who were his size years ago along with him who are in the 20ks, there are people who started after him who are in the 80ks
that's subjective though. maybe bahroo is fine with being at 10k. 10k is definitely "make it" territory for a majority of /asp/ies. if you want to keep moving goalposts to an arbritrary "make it" line that's your problem.

>>7081041
ugh everyone is a critic.

>>7081038
No one is coping. Literally having 10k viewers THEN becoming a vtuber isn't a good example of a successful vtuber, male or female.

>>7081124
kek

>>7081111
Well I guess I gotta give it a shot with digits like those.
Wish me luck fags.
>>7081124
Now we're talking.

>>7080596
try Spider puppeteer
or another bug that makes silk

>>7081130
This. It's like saying LilyPichu is an example of a successful Vtuber.

>>7081114
the issue is your mentality that there's a "made it" line. There isn't in this business.
at multiple points someone could consider themselves to have "made it" and just coast along but only the ones who keep going rise past that plateau

>>7081064
Aww someone did it already.

>>7079641
I will do that to begin, thanks!
>>7080239
I wish you luck fellow /asp/ie

>>7081237
someone has done almost every good concept, if you abandon any idea because someone has done something similar you will never start at all

>>7081229
>the issue is your mentality that there's a "made it" line. There isn't in this business.
no one cares.
the generally accepted arbitrarily "made it" line in /asp/ is having a hobby that recoups its costs. you can do your archive reps and see that's the most consistent response when asked what /asp/ies think "making it" is.

no one here actually thinks they can become the next Gura. no one here is actually trying to become the next Gura. stop trying to paint the "make it" line as some professional teir "streaming as a full time job" shit. you're arguing in bad faith if you're trying to imply that /asp/ies here wouldn't be happy with getting to Bahroo's status just because there isn't a "made it" line "in this business"

>>7081005
Insects brainfucking cute girls is my fetish, anon. Are you prepared for me to masturbate to your streams?

>>7081307
>no one wants to make this a career
then why the fuck do you care about whether there's some arbitrary buff or debuff? who fucking cares
if it's a hobby just do what makes you happy or stop and get a hobby that makes you happy

>>7081344
Not that anon, but I'd be super flattered if anyone masturbated to my streams. I'd be impressed, frankly.

>>7081237
This >>7081267 though I was going to add that the slug on the head associated with Nimu could be debuff. She also stole Ina's takodachi for bits alert for a while. I have an idea, why aren't you a talking parasitic mushroom? It's dumb but could open you to fun design ideas.

>>7081249
Thank you, anon. I'm really giving it my best to create content with my limited resources. If I keep growing on Twatter that will convince my sponsor relatives of my commitment to it and I'll have that streaming PC sooner.

>>7080309
I can see that

just how important is it to start with a good model. all i have is a shitty sketch that i want to drawn into a nice model, but obviously that would take a lot of time(2+ months) and money(and im scared of talking to artists). i feel like ive been putting off streaming for a while. i have high expectations but 0 ambition and tend to pussy foot around when i want to do something and get completely crushed when something i put little time into fails. should i just wait for a model or png stream or just use a shitty model from one of those free programs until a better one is made?

>>7082585
>how important is it to start with a good model?
are you an artist? if so then take some time to draw a model to the best of your ability
no? then either get a PNG and do the discord trick or make a Vroid that DOES NOT use the default hoodie
about half of the current aspies are using modified stock images as PNGs because nothing is worse than coming into vtubing as a hobby, dropping 2k on a model + rigging + assets and then burning out because you suck at streaming and are streaming to 2 people

okay this is a dumb question but i think its more appropriate here than in /wvt/; i just noticed my follower count go down, then back to the same number across the span of two days but i wasn't followed by anyone new; does this just mean someone deactivated and reactivated their account or something?
>>7082585
a lot of people just png stream until they get their model so you could do that
some people will tell you to do your streaming reps even without a png just to get used to talking to 0 chat which you can also do

>>7082585
lazysusan started with a free vroid model, streamed and built up a community, and then upgraded to a fully rigged live2d model. your starting model doesn't really matter since you can always upgrade or reincarnate as a vtuber.

>>7082585
Start streaming if you want to start streaming, you can add nicer art later. That way when you've got the nice model, you already have your streaming feet under you.

>>7082847
reminder that eggch also started with an mspaint egg as his avatar and is a popular /here/ with just that
it was intended as a placeholder model but he has stuck with it for so long it's just his thing now

>>7082585
Artists are real nice! I would shoot your shot, no pain no gain, and you will 100% get comfortable with it going forward, I was in the same place a couple of weeks ago, so I understand

OUUUUUUUUUUOOHHH TORA DATING SIM

Anons what can I do if I cant streaming because of being busy with my irl stuff? I'm posting original content (I'm a kinda artist) at least twice a week, but actually I want to do something else around art too.
Should I start doing like vlogs with my avatar? Can you give me advice on how to slowly reach some ppl on youtube?

>>7083665
timelapse videos, tutorial videos, how you determine brushes, style technique explanations as a voice over on your timelapse videos, etc.

Why are so many small vtubers on Twitter so horny? It's a bit much

>>7083839
you only find them if you go out of your way looking for them. i've been on twitter since Feb and haven't come across any hornyposting. speaks more about what you're going out and engaging with than anything.

>>7083765
Thanks a lot anon

>>7083665
I know shorts are really popular on youtube right now, maybe you can try posting them with your model. and I'm assuming it's going to be rough growing without streaming. even if your shorts/yt/art content gets going, a lot of those people will want to see you live streaming because they think they would enjoy your content. even if it's only for like 2 or 3 hours you should try to stream at least something so there are vods they can watch

>>7082780
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>>7083036
thank you guys, i will make it happen. i am determined.

>>7083894
Thanks too!! I didn't think about it

>>7083839
On one hand this >>7083871, on the other it's the idea that it will bring them more followers and views and keep the minors away at the same time. I find it hilarious that they do this but if they were to get into a corp they'd go seiso the very instant they read they got into phase 2 of auditions.
It's okay some hornyposting, like Fina reacting to some lewd art and then the other NijiEN, but the rest goes way too far and it becomes awkward, to say the least.

>>7083839
The real answer is clips make or break a channels growth and the types of clips that make it to clip channels are all sex related, people will ignore a hundred clips to see the one clip where an anime girl says cum

Shimada said something about posting media with bad engagement would fuck up your twitter. I checked the engagements of my tweet and I get around 70 average engagements on my media. Is that good?

thank you for that stream, shishou
i'll dedicate a sheena ringo song to you in my next karaoke

>>7085351
>posting media with bad engagement would fuck up your twitter.
it really doesn't matter unless you're spamming twitter with #maga shit and constantly retweeting conspiracy theories and crap.

if you're just starting out, don't worry too much about it and just post vtuber related stuff now and then. you can always ramp up your twitter presence as you get a handle on the type of content you make and have more stuff to tweet/retweet like gameplay clips, highlights, fanart, etc.

>>7085735
I won't cry, I won't...

Tiger is gonna graduate isn't she... :'(

How do you guys decide on names? I'm trying to go for a "sort of normal but distinct" character name with a first and last name and I'm stuck on picking a surname thinking about how the rhythm sounds when said aloud, how it might be shortened to a nickname/tags, if it's marketable/cute........

>>7086793
Alliteration that goes with a theme. Works every time.

>>7086793
mine is a 2-3 syllable name that's a pun on the subject matter that i'm based on

Sometimes I feel like I lean a bit too much on the kayfabe on Twatter but my Japanese followers seem to love it. I would guess it's the ojou character.
>>7086793
Normally I suck with names, but the name I came up for my vtuber persona is one of my favorites ever. I wanted something that rolled well on the tongue for both English and Japanese, so I played with my theme in Japanese while looking for names in English that were pronounced similarly to said theme in the former language. DeepL also helped a bit, as it mistranslated some words and unintentionally gave me a really good name.

>>7086820
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>>7086918
I see, I'll go digging to see if there's an on theme name that pairs nicely with the first name I picked since I really like it. Thanks!

>>7086793
I didn't go with a person's name. I use a term related to my scientist character's field of study that's also sort of a joke about his appearance. It may or may not turn people off of me or make it unclear that I'm even a vtuber, but I like it.

>>7086793
My character has a bit of a historical basis, so I took (one of) the names and "modernized" it.

Writing kayfabe stuff is too much fun...! I hope it doesn't scare people off.

>>7086793
What's your character's theme? Primary color scheme? Associated animal or stuff? Look up words that mean those things and then work up a name from those words.

>>7087514
I try to keep it simple both for story and some character stuff. I won't rely too much on kayfabe during game streams or zatsudans, but I will use it for real life stories to change names, maybe "in-character" reactions at some things in games, tweeting at times and whatnot. At the end of the day I want to play a character while adding stuff about myself.

>>7088795
>At the end of the day I want to play a character while adding stuff about myself.
Same, but I'm already a bit of a character myself... kayfabe, I think, will help mediate that! I'm not trying to get deep with it, either, but having fun tends to make things get away from me...

>>7087514
don't spend too much time on it because 99.99% of viewers do not give a fuck about kayfabe