/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>70039865
nobody gives a fuck

>>70039968
You gave enough of a fuck to respond nigger now hop tf off my BBC

>>70039865
Honestly really happy she's drinking herself to death and has devolved into alcoholism and depression after all of this
The pain she inflicted on people is justifiably being reflected back onto her finally and I hope she never finds happiness again.
She does not deserve to be happy
Evil whore

>>70040663
gura?

>>70039865
She's not even talkng, what's the point of streaming?

>>70041991
Seeing what the #s are like?

>>70039865
Who tf is this?

>>70039865
i dont even hate her, but i agree.
whats the point if you're not gonna talk?

>>70042157
Idol Corps Yukos Alt

>>70039865
>Goes back to her old simps
>Realizes she misses her money
Can't wait

I assume her streams weren't very successful after dumping the gfe if she's doing this?

>>70043217
at the moment, not really.
but supposedly she expected that, so, hard to tell.
she 'missed' a collab earlier today, so the rrat is she was actually kicked and this is her coping with that.

>>70039865
this ghost cunny?

>>70043217
You are correct
She's been drinking for about 3 days straight and ditched a collab earlier because she was too drunk
She had a members stream the other night where she was crying and lying through her teeth.
She's depressed and she deserves it.

>>70043217
a good portion of her paypigs went full anti and have been shitting on her and anyone who still watches her.
>>70043313
she may be getting bullied in a Niji sort of way.

hope she shows her womb tattoo again

>>70043459
Why would she be depressed and drinking? Isn't this what she wanted?

>>70043628
She's going back to working at Starbucks

>>70043463
its going to be interesting if proof comes out she really is.
anons can say whatever they want about what she did or deserves for it, but especially now, public opinion will rush to her side in an instant and against Idol without hesitation if any evidence of bullying comes out.
god the catalog will be unusable for what? the 8th time this year already?

>>70043628
she probably expected it to go differently. You ever had that shit where you think something will be ok/easy and then it hits you and you are mortified of what's going on, not saying she didn't deserve it, but its probably something like that.

>>70039865
Idolniggers lost.

so much for "Gura killer"

RORURUMAO

>>70043463
>she may be getting bullied in a Niji sort of way.
then it's well deserved lol

>>70043736
It's honestly funny that she mentioned she didn't want to go back to Starbucks in her members stream last night
She's going to be known as only a failure for the rest of her life

>>70043749
>poor girl forced to pretend to be online-girlfriend by alt-right streamer group
>GFE is a prostitution term, she was forced to prostitute herself
I can see it now...

some of you guys are exaggerating, she was clearly pretending all this time
it's just business bro, hate the game not the player

>>70043894
not sure thats how it would go here in terms of her defense per say, but yeah, i get what you mean.
it would be a shitshow for sure.

>>70043894
>poor girl
lol
if even

>>70040663
Very sane post
>>70043628
People are just wishfully thinking she's depressed, at most she's dealing with stress, but considering how unhinged her antis have been, it's to be expected

>>70044548
hope the other girls take notice of how some of these "fans" behave.

>>70044686
Oh they notice, and they all talk.

>>70039865
It would be funny as fuck if she loses a shitload of income, wastes all her remaining money on alcohol to cope with the depression, and crawls back to doing gfe after realizing the error of her ways.

>>70044737
>s-she'll come crawling back
Personally I hope she drops this gig all together. It's less embarrassing for both sides.

>>70044548
She's been stressed since before this whole arc though. In fact her bringing up her stress on a member post shortly before following that one PLfag is what started it all.

>>70039865
who TF is this?

>>70044935
What was she stressed about?

>>70045010
The fact that she was found out she was lying to her fans for an entire year about caring about them

>>70044943
3view streamer

>>70045010
All she said was that the start of the year was stressful for her and she was at a crossroads regarding something. Everyone knows what path she chose after that, and so far it doesn't seem to have done anything to alleviate her stress.

>>70045095
ah the cnt from the clique.

>>70045133
So what would actually alleviate her stress? Obviously if something seems to be caught in a binary some out of the box thinking usually is able to provide a 3rd or 4th previously unseen options.

>>70045386
Who the fuck knows, whatever situation she got herself into is something she refuses to talk about so much that she basically threw away her entire fanbase to keep it secret.

>>70040663
>>70043459
I am really starting to understand the psychopathology of the audience she is now actively trying to avoid. Is it any wonder she rejected you spiteful twats.

>>70045386
>So what would actually alleviate her stress?
My footlong in her cunny

>>70045605
No matter how hard you push this rrat it will never work because it has no basis.

>>70045682
Literally my first time making and sharing this observation. If you recognize it from someone else, it only means that multiple people are detecting a pattern. Not looking good for you, my gachikoi friend.

That stream was sad asf i'm not supporting her anymore but i hope she seeks professional help

>>70045605
You don't need an armchair degree to understand cause and effect. She knew what her content would bring and did it anyway. You don't blame the lion for eating a human if the human climbed into the cage while waving a bloody steak

>>70045865
It was just her playing r6 for an hour
What was so sad about it?

>>70045825
I don't even watch Yuko or Idol in general. What I do know is boobros just come off as disgruntled viewers, not this psychopathy you're ascribing.

>>70045953
She's been drinking for 3 days already and missed a collab earlier because she was probably too drunk

>>70046267
nice headcanon
i'm gonna need to see some receipts

>>70046339
Her streams and her twitter

>>70046392
retard

>>70046339
other anons right in terms of where evidence of drinking is, but not right in terms of it being evidence of truly non stop or the reason she missed out on the collab.

>>70045973
What I am saying is that the "disgruntled viewership" you are observing is a distinct precedented pattern of jilted GFE connoisseurs lashing out at their purveyors when they don't get the parasocial fix they think they are entitled to.

>>70045926
>muh hyperbolic analogy
Kek, only proving my point.

>>70043881
Someone needs to clip the Starbucks part

>>70046727
Anon, if I go to my local pizza joint and find out they spit in the food I'm gonna talk shit about them. Moreso if I dropped a bunch of cash there for over a year, and I'm going to talk shit until I've felt enough shit has been talked. The entitled behavaior was by the employee that thought they're entitled to my money and the reputation afforded by the rest of staff that aren't disgusting so they could serve a shit product.

>>70042285
NTA but tfw this is how I find out that cute /tac/chuuba I loosely followed from years ago and went on indefinite hiatus was ghostcunny this entire time

>>70047435
well, er.... ignoring your opinion on the controversy... you'll either be really happy or really sad by what she wants to do as content now instead of Lewd/GFE.

>>70044091
bidness is bidness, chud

>>70046811
What even is your point? That the audience she threw away is fucking deranged? No shit, it doesn't counter the fact that she's the one who pandered to them in the first place

From reading what you guys said, it seems to me like she's very depressed over finding out that after she announced dropping GFE stuff, that people were just watching her for that and not actually because she was an entertaining vtuber.

>>70046267
Its fucking self inflicted stop being manipulated.

>>70048310
>be vtuber
>instant attention and success because you sound like a child and your model looks like a child
>create coomer content and piss for oil barons
>no they are watching because i am the next jerma!
>stop doing coomer content
>fans are interested anymore
Who could have expected this

Who the fuck is this? Is it an indie vtuber or someone popular?

>>70048605
read thread.

>>70043459
>Members stream
Did anyone saved it I missed it, I was just waiting for my membership to run out, but if she was feeling remorse than I want to hear what she was crying about. Also wondering what she "lied" about.

>>70047346
Your metaphor is shit, it’s more like being a habitual customer of a really good pizza place, and one day find out the owner rebranded the place as a pastry shop.

>>70048476
Pippa has fried her brain.

>>70043463
>she may be getting bullied in a Niji sort of way
That's a stretch anon. It's not a Selen or Zaion situation, everything Yuko did was self inflicted over the past year to now. She tried to out-lewd her kouhais by doing an IRL pissing stream, got bonked for it and resulted in lewd content being banned for a while. She barely publicly collabed with her kouhais if ever, and she barely streamed on top of that as though she were Gawr Gura herself.
That's not also not getting into what she did during the New Year either. She got her fans' hopes up with a "We are so back" post, then made a membership post about how she's "at a fork in the road". Then she reopened her roommate account, only to refollow her old groomers on Twitter, groomers who for the longest time hated her new fanbase and would escalate tensions. Despite that she essentially stayed silent on the matter, made a video tweet that basically failed to address anything, and went back to ghosting her fans for about 2 months. Who even knows if she even talked to her genmates or other talents during this time, considering how even management had to deal with hoards of angry boobros (fan name) this doesn't seem likely.

The kicker is that after returning after Valentines, she basically did a cold-turkey pivot away from GFE, despite heavily leaning into it for a lot of her content. Not slowly shifting away from it, hard turning away from it and nuking all her lewd members only ASMRs, I think she never even talked about the "spicy" ASMR she'd do as part of her donothon. This all capped off in a recent membership stream where apparently she fake cried about how it was the fans fault and how they MADE her do GFE content. It's less that they're bullying her, and more that people in idol understandably don't want to take a bullet for her after leaving them with her angry fanbase for 2+ months.

tl;dr vtuber has woman moment, fans are mad, none of her coworkers would want to tank their own reputations for her right now.

>>70048903
>nuking all her lewd members only ASMRs
Not only those, every single members stream where she showed any intimacy at all was nuked (roughly 75% of the 40+ member streams she had), as well as all her member posts.

>>70047605
I honestly have zero stake in the controversy since I never really watched Yuko beyond a few clips where I thought she was cute (and funny). Never realised she did GFE until this shit blew up. Not that I really gave a shit about GFE either.

Now that I know who she is, I'll probably watch her more. I liked her before she started GFE so it makes no difference to me. If she pivots back into /tac/shit, even better. She's happier and I get my cute /k/ino back

>>70049019
That's even worse, she had tons of references of vtubers that sabotaged themselves long term by leaning into GFE/BFE for quick cash/sub boosts, only to denounce their former content and fail the moment they try to transition out of it. She's not even going to be known as anything besides the parasocial pisstuber either as Yuko, so her actions did nothing good for her considering that she'll now have to rebuild her fanbase as a /k/ or /out/tuber.
Maybe she just realized what she got into too since she apparently said she wanted to "reconnect" with boobros, but with her inconsistent actions I think the free gravy train is over for her.

>>70048903
All i'll say is if you actually watched the membership stream, you would know thats not actually how she really put it or what happened.
do what you want, but it got leaked, so theres no excuse for just taking biased anons word on it from either side of the argument.

>>70049189
Uh huh sure cool story

>>70049189
not sure shes going full back to /tac/, though i dont know exactly what you consider /tac/.
she plans to do outdoorsy vids outside of streaming now (one is already up), aswell as has mentioned wanting to do some gunnery type stuff too. but otherwise if you look at this past weeks content + upcoming schedule, its not really too /tac/ i think.
that said its also only her second week back, so we'll see.

>>70049189
On her bread youtube account she had a community post about how she didn't want to only do tactical games anymore, but seeing her go back to R6S as a comfort game and her latest schedulo makes me think she has no idea whatsoever of which direction she wants to take her content to. Even the /out/ video (and content shift she claimed) doesn't feel like she put much thought into it.
I do hope she does more /tac/ streams though, preferably on the blue persona to see if she can't attract new fans to replace some of the whales that left. The streams she did were full of nice moments.

>>70048778
https://gofile.io/d/uqTHiV

>>70048605
She drinks piss and has a /k/ pedophile boyfriend who she choose over her fans.

>>70049189
>still acting like this is about her dropping GFE
this whole mess is about her ghosting her fans for months and lying about why she's going on breaks and going back to her convicted pedophile groomer who's been baking fun of her fans

>>70050046
no ones actually posted any proof her breaks are related to what you're implying, or that she actually stuck with 'them'.
also you are certifiably lying if you say her dropping GFE was not an issue for a significant sum of people, /here/ and other places. maybe it isn't to YOU, but people were crying left and right about how dropping GFE was the betrayal due to the emotions she lead them to believe were behind it.

>>70049746
there's a pt2 of that stream btw

>>70050180
You mean her PL stream on twitch?

>>70050493
no, as in "PC BLUE SCREENED. PART 2" since that stream crashed

>>70050590
I don't have that part, I just found this link on Saturday and saved it.

>>70050590
Damn... than I don't think anyone saved that one? I mean even if the archivebros didn't prolly she was just finishing unwinding.

>>70050725
>she was just finishing unwinding.
if 2 and a half hours is unwinding... then sure
>then I don't think anyone saved that one
it was, and it's mostly a karaoke stream anyways

>>70049189
lmfao

>>70039865

>>70050725
Unwinding? From what?

>>70051042
Lying and fake crying while constantly gaslighting and pretending that her fans weren't actually supportive of her content and pretending that she was forced into doing GFE by them

>>70051070
kys kira

>>70051101
Rent free
>>70007168
>>70007233

>>70051175
Holy fucking shit dude how the fuck is that all 1 thread?

>>70051217
her simps are even more mentally ill than her ex-fans

>>70050046
Cool. Like I said I have no stake in whatever it is you're pissed at her for so not my problem.

>>70049697
>>70049674
My bar for /tac/ is anything that tickles my milshit autism. Anything from the ArmA collabs she used to do, to sperging out over military equipment to genuine innawoods stuff.

She doesn't have to go full /tac/ again, but having it there as a core niche would be a nice incentive for me to keep watching her. If her PL and this thread is anything to go by she definitely can build a new core fanbase with it. I don't expect her to swing back to /tac/shit that drastically since its a completely different crowd but hey she managed to swing from that to GFE so

>>70051261
I'm just baffled at how the fuck someone can get that mind broken by a literal who

I don't hate it. She's funny enough of a person without having to dupe her former fans into gfe and then back out. I'd watch Rye play fps games and shitpost. Honestly a very bizarre situation.

remember when she made a /meat/ thread using her tweet as the OP pic to shill herself?
I wonder how hard she's astroturfing right now

>>70051217
it's what happens when your general has wondrous mix of schizos, antis, raiders, schizo antis, schizo raiders, anti raiders, all equipped with discord, with jannies that ignore all of your reports for off topic bullshit until it reaches that point! it once took them 8 hours to ban a schizo doxxposter that was literally asking the jannies to ban him! I love /vt/!!!!!

>>70049746
>https://gofile.io/d/uqTHiV

Skimmed this and summarized/paraphrased below. The "starbucks" thing seems to have been taken a bit out of context here and elsewhere.

>Talks about needing a drink after this week
>Wanted to grow channel
>Felt like GFE was holding her back
>Wanted to do creative streams, but feedback was more GFE
>Felt she was at a crossroads. Was affecting mental health.
>Didn't hate GFE, put a lot of genuine effort into it, wasn't fake, no regrets, but got hard to continue.
>"was wet the entire time doing that ASMR" (!)
>Knew people would leave, but didn't intend/want to upset people.
>Aware of the negative feedback
>Either this decision or starbucks [implied: would have graduated]
>Will accept the consequences and continue. Knows it will be tough in the short term.

Unaddressed: Why she had to delete everything instead of just not continuing?

>>70051603
I thought it was in that vod, as i swear shes said it twice in two different ones (one being the initial comeback stream), but the reason for deletion is she doesn't want newcomers coming in and getting confused. shes not making that content anymore, so she doesn't want newcomers thinking thats what shes doing and not staying because of it, or staying expecting more, is essentially what she said, though in more compact wording.

>>70051603
She's not wrong about gfe preventing preventing channel growth. I'm not entirely convinced she didn't hate doing it tho. I think all women take mental damage pretending to have feelings for loser males. That's my rrat of why she deleted everything. Looking back makes her cringe to death, but she can't admit it obviously.

>>70051603
>Wanted to do creative streams, but feedback was more GFE
Feedback was she needed to actually fucking stream after taking 3 long breaks in 4 months with another on the way then saying she was going to be down to two streams a week for months. Her fans praised both her GFE and her creative streams to high heavens.

>>70043463
>she may be getting bullied in a Niji sort of way.
Lol is this the new cope that cuckbros are coming up with so she could gain sympathy? Even if she was getting bullied she deserves it at this point.

>>70052182
>Her fans praised both her GFE and her creative streams to high heavens.
you may be getting mislead by anon shorthanding the stream. she worded it more that both were getting support, but GFE was getting much much more support, especially in views and financially, not that one wasn't getting support or even negative support.

>>70052280
Man i cant believe she wanted to get people like you out of her fanbase.

>>70052182
Yea, she is a chronic liar

>>70052522
She literally welcomed them with open arms it’s her fault

>>70051603
>it will be tough in the short term
Lol
Lmao even

>>70051603
>didn't intend/want to upset people
Damn, maybe she shouldn't have deleted every comment people left that was even politely disappointed while leaving up all the comments calling them creepy pedophile losers and blocking/banning them on Youtube and social media even if they didn't say anything. Maybe she should have left the GFE up until later that week like she said instead of nuking everything immediately because people talked about archiving it. Maybe she shouldn't have started the next stream by mocking them with the "grow a girlfriend" toy.

>>70051603
You know, Lirik had this whole 'issue' more than a decade ago. He exploded in growth streaming DayZ mod and he would stream that shit six days a week, an exclusive DayZ streamer. He knew full well his audience only tuned in for DayZ.
When he decided to go variety, did he just drop it all in one shot and delete all his DayZ content? No, he set one day aside, told people he was going to be doing variety for two hours, then the rest would be DayZ. Then from there he gradually expanded until that day was fully variety, then two days, then finally full variety.
It's not a very dfificult or novel concept to try and acclimatize your audience to new stuff.

>>70052980
>entire goal was more numbers
>thought the chud owning crowd would actually stick around and become paypigs if she made fun of boocucks
>didnt work and now she has to backtrack and make a pity member stream to get the old paypigs back

>>70052980
Sounds based to me.

>>70053037
changing what video game you play is not at all the same as changing from doing lewd content and GFE.
for the sake of argument, just take it at face value the assumption she genuinely no longer felt comfortable doing lewd and GFE content is true, as my point is not about her but the very concept you are putting forth here (and she is just a stand in as the obvious spawn of the topic).
those things are way more emotionally and physically intimate than just changing a game, and she went HARD into it.
are you really saying she(or anyone else) should just... keep doing something she genuinely feels extremely uncomfortable doing, just to let others be eased off of it into other things?

>>70053321
Really? I see it from the complete opposite end of things.
Precisely that it was ONLY a video game, and yet instead of going 'you idiots better suck it up', he took time and care to ease his audience into something he no longer had the inclination to produce stuff for.
For something with so much more emotional significance and intimacy, all the more is it such that extreme care should be taken in the changing of content. If one really felt THAT uncomfortable doing it, then the correct response is to graduate and maybe start afresh a month later, not to stick around on the same persona and account with a subscribed fanbase painstakingly molded to specifically consume that kind of content, then feel bad that you receive so much backlash for it.

>>70053321
Yes. People do a lot of stuff they are extremely uncomfortable with every day of the week so they can keep food on the table. Its not a new or novel thing. If you want to move away from what you are doing, usually you gradually shift yourself into a position where you are more comfortable. Doing a hard 180 is something immature people do.

>>70051806
>she doesn't want newcomers coming in and getting confused. shes not making that content anymore
You're retarded or didn't pay attention,
>She is talking about how she couldn't have faked all of it (which is not true, someone could perfectly act out a GFE otherwise the word 'sociopath' and 'liar' wouldn't be in the dictionary)
from -22:20
>BB:"bro not the lemonade"
>*Laughs* Yea can't faked that!
> BB:"one hour of suss- *yuko laughs*"
>Y:"Look I'm still a degenerate, I'm still the fucking... I... look I know I have a legacy, I know what that legacy is and I'm fucking glad to wear that title, 'oh that's the vtuber that did this, this, this-' hell yea I am, you wanna watch it? *Laughs*, I am not.. regretful, I have no regrets, that shit... I was fucking.. WET! the entire time doing that ASMR. I'M SORRY I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID... ich on my forehead right now oh god *Raughs* what I'm trying to say is that.. that content isn't ever gonna get off the internet, that content is going to be forever in my name, and I'm proud of it, if anyone's curious than go fucking watch it, I'm proud of it *giggles* and unfortunately is not going to be what I'm going to continue doing but I fucking- wUUw! *laughs* ahh I'm such a degenerate...*reads chat* yea is in the history books, it really is like again I have no regrets, yes is OFF of my channel but you can still find it and i'm p- I'm- I'm glad that, y'know it's still kinda there in a way but any new member wether they know or they don't know at least they wouldn't get confuse, they won't get the wrong message- blah blah blah, what I've build in a year has been amazing...
Okay so I stop there because most of these doesn't make sense, You don't Delete shit because "you're proud of it"? She says
>Look I'm still a degenerate, I'm still the fucking... I... look I know I have a legacy, I know what that legacy is and I'm fucking glad to wear that title, 'oh that's the vtuber that did this, this, this-' hell yea I am, you wanna watch it? *Laughs*, I am not.. regretful, I have no regrets, that shit...
But no one fucking says "Oh yea I wear the "degenerate" badge in my chest bro!" and than fucking say "but I'm deleting all of that shit (that she is "proud of"??) in hopes I get bigger numbers" Like you understand that's a big fucking contradiction right? It's like an artists known for NSFW shit go "Oh man I really like and am proud of all my NSFW pieces guys buuuut uuh I'm deleting all of it and rebranding as a SFW artists because I'm PROBABLY gonna get more eyes on me and comissions (unlikely)"

>>70053700
*ease his audience away from

NTA but I get what you're saying

>>70053321
Yes handing in your resignation letter without another job lined up is extremely retarded.

>>70045926
Autistically screeching about Yuko doesn’t get less autistic just because it was caused by something, you’re in control of your own actions.

>>70053700
I can agree that graduation was probably the better move, but not at all with the first part. But it was confirmed she was going to do that, management told her to instead not to and to try it as Yuko, and yeah, i agree she was dumb for listening to them.
That said, I still just hard disagree that that still meant she should ease out of it. whoring yourself out, even e-whoring, is simply not the same thing. asking someone to 'ease out' of that if it is something they are no longer comfortable with to me is just not acceptable. the other person does not matter in this case, because these type of matters should always only be in the individuals hands in terms of how open or closed it is to the public. someone changes their mind? that should be that.

>>70053757
most people are not doing something as extreme as this though. we're not talking easing out of manual labor as you age, or switching from being a painter to a carpenter.
also thats just simply wrong. sometimes people go slow, but they also regularly jump ship quickly. its not a novel thing either to quit and change quickly either, so its really not an argument. its also way more immature to basically whore yourself out, than to stop.

>>70053902
not if that job is terrible enough.

>>70053089
>thinks old paypigs will return
I probably know the answer, but is
s she retarded?

Kek I feel like her story will be interesting to the vtuber scene, regardless of how good or bad it'll eventually end up. I'm happy to watch from afar popcorn in hand.

>>70054325
As extreme as streaming on the internet to lonely people? A lot of people put themselves in severe physical and psychological distress every day for money, and they don't get to take 2 month breaks. This isn't that.
Usually when someone eventually does jump ship, its because they have put in a lot of effort behind the scenes to move into that new role. I only see very immature people up and change their entire perspectives quickly, so my point stands. We are all whores of some description, it all depends on what you are willing to sacrifice for the long term goal.
At very least, she should deliver on what was sold in her donothon so she could at least give them a clean break without pretense. It was over a year ago at this point, and she has neglected it all that time.

>>70054325
>someone changes their mind? that should be that.
This is retarded advice and how misunderstandings happen.

>>70043459
Looks more like she was parasocial to her fans to. But recognized it is dangerous as hell as the happeninge before Christmas. Kinda sad if this is true. She needs help.

>>70053780
I still think the brave merger is part of the "decision" to be less lewd. I doubt anyone in idol will masturbate on stream again.

Sisters who misuse the term unicorn to own le incels etc. and singularly home in on that aspect of any given situation, have over the past week successfully derailed even half the boobros into only talking about the GFE shit.

All but a few of the most attention whore-y schizo adjacents would have peacefully stomached any well intentioned shift in content.
>months of trying to pull a Gura on an audience filled with ex-chumbuds
>followed by fucking off for a month while purposefully stressing fans out over the holidays
>followed by telling them shit was good
>immediately followed by telling it was actually bad in the most bullshit stressmaxxing vaguepost way humanly possible
>followed by reassociating with pedophile groomers that she knew had been shitting on and harassing her fans for a year
>followed by 2 months of radio silence from her and more shit from the groomers + other dramafags
>followed by a return where she addressed none of the aforementioned stuff and instead flippantly announced to a massive audience of tourists that she's dropping GFE
>followed by instantly trying to scrub her history of going balls deep on it of her own volition to make herself look innocent in the matter, throwing her fans to a pack of sisters and "women aren't responsible for their actions ever, muh idol culture, whatshername is gonna get SO much support without you losers" tourists
>followed by what is AT BEST One Guy'ing a big and extremely supportive fanbase, blaming them for making her do things she totally didn't want to do, pretending she didn't know what was going to make them mad, refusing to take responsibility for literally anything, and failing to even really address the one thing she promised to actually address, that being the now year old donothon goals her fans paid thousands of dollars for that she's now trying to weasel out of doing
The How and Why matter a lot more than the What, and while there are a few people that have fallen to actual genuine schizo anti territory, what she did was so shitty that it upset 100% of the people following her enough to be aware of any of this, and upset at least 90% of them enough to drop her entirely, with the remaining 10% being too skeeved out to show much support still. To actually filter that many of your gachikoi at this scale is a monumental feat, and a testament to how awful/retarded of a person she is.

>>70052360
So what changed then?

>>70051603
So she felt like GFE was holding her back even though it wasn't and in reality it was actually making her successful, so she stopped doing GFE, alienated her own fans, burned everything to the ground, and now she's sad about the consequences of her own immensely stupid decisions? Kek what a retard

>>70054384
They will return anon, just like with any gfe chuuba, look at Rushia, or any other cucktuber

>>70055331
But they didn't return to Rushia.

>>70055369
pretty sure some did, obviously not every one will return, but a small part will remain, didn't that orca cuck still donating to her? I haven't been actually following whole divorce thing a lot. Last time I properly followed was that Kirshe apex whatever the fuck

>>70055150
I agree with this comment.
I think if she had just said "Hey, sorry for the wait. I have been thinking about what direction I want to take my content now. I want to do more experimental stuff this year and focus less on legacy content, which I intend to gradually phase out after finishing up my donothon goals. Here is the timeline I had in mind." the majority of her fans would have been super supportive. There would have been a couple schizos, but nothing like the backlash she's gotten for her scorched earth direction against her old content and gachikoi.
She handled this in almost the least tactful way I can think of.

>>70054325
>of that if it is something they are no longer comfortable with to me is just not acceptable.
But that's the THING that I think everyone is confused about (because she is not clear about it) she doesn't find it uncomfortable! She literally said she is a degenerate and was okay and proud of it (??) but deleted it anyway because of not wanting people to get confused (???)

>>70055568
Because she hates the audience she fostered, specifically the Boobros. That's the only logical conclusion to draw from her action, whether she did it consciously or not.

>>70055331
>>70055484
Unless she makes an actual dogeza tier apology in the very near future, the vast majority won't. There's a difference between shit like menhera yabs and partner yabs, and salting the earth out of spite yabs like this. The best part though is that even if she wanted to apologize, even if just for the purpose of saving her financials, she's kind of painted herself into a corner of not being able to do it. The second she does, that shit will be picked up by dramatubers who are chomping at the bit to spin up headlines like, "PARASOCIAL fans HARASS vtuber into having a BREAKDOWN!!!!" and every bit of attention like that increases the odds that people find out about shit like the pedophile groomers.

>>70055484
No one fucking sane would return to her after being exposed as an INSANE fucked up individual.

>>70048310
Yuko was disgustingly parasocial and cunnyfag pandered hard from week 1, if she wanted to be recognized for her entertainment skills she would have actually used them instead of relying on GFE and cunny as a crutch.
t. contentfag who watched idol for a couple of months around their 1st EN gen's debut.

>>70048310
>it seems to me like she's very depressed over finding out that after she announced dropping GFE stuff
Everything is just very fucking confusing after this stream, genuinely like what >>70055631
>>70053780 said, she is either lying or just not 100% understanding how she is phrasing everything, I watch the stream and she couldn't even say that "I just don't like to do that anymore" she kept pussy footing around it using the excuse that she didn't disliked it, and how proud she is about it but deleted it because she didn't want to make anyone confused? That wouldn't be a problem if she either 1, ease out that kind of GFE content or 2, was just be straight foreward about it and say "I don't want to do that kind of content anymore because otherwise I would've graduate" but she has done neither, she just hide behind the "changing direction" excuse, immediately delete all of the content she doesn't want anymore and than after all the negative backlash (that she said she was aware of) KINDA walked back and say "oh still like that kind of content" while simultaneously saying "but it got way more support than other stuff I tried while people liked most also wanted just more ASMR stuff and that felt sucky" which is reasonable? this creative stuff that you're not very known for is going to be less supported but if you make good shit and ease out the GFE it would've been a easier transition.

>>70046811
That's not an hyperbole.

>>70054167
At what point did I say it wasn't incredibly autistic? Are we not on the same page here? It should be common knowledge that gfe is only made possible by both a mentally ill audience and an exploitative/equally ill vtuber. I'm pointing out that it's Yuko's own damn fault for fulfilling her end of the devil's bargain. What exactly are you trying to argue, that boobros are deranged and should get over it? Try calling your congressman, you'll have better luck than here

>>70039865
And you could have it all...

>>70054167
>Nyanners and Idubbz make a U turn on their previous persona and drastically change their type of content.
>ex fans shit on them
>Based

>Yuko does the same thing
>you’re in control of your own actions.
The absolute state.

She thought she could blow up into the next gura if she dropped her gfe. I was always a casual fan and imo she doesn't have it in her
>constantly talking about piss
>room temperature IQ
>thought it was a good idea to tell a story how she shoved chopsticks up her dogs ass
>hated vtubers before gura came along
She has her moments where she's cute and funny but I don't think she has what it takes, A good model alone can't carry you

Quite literally, factually, excruciatingly, who?

>>70039865
pissbro status???

>>70057512
>thought it was a good idea to tell a story how she shoved chopsticks up her dogs ass
That sounds like a great story.

>>70039865
>>70055150
>>70051603

She seriously reminds me of someone I know.

>Despised GFE
>Realised that GFE can get you a lot of money
>Started doing GFE
>It got a bit of attention
>It got more and more lewd over time
>Did a donathon for more GFE content
>Then suddenly went on a hiatus for about 6 months
>The hiatus was because she broke up with BF and they broke up because she becoming lewder on stream and he hated her doing that
>Kind of came back but stopped doing regular streams and stopped GFE streams
>Her views are now almost 1/4 of what it used to be.

>>70054167
Yuko totally fucked herself and you whining on 4chan can't unfuck her I'm afraid

i tried cooming to her latest asmr the other day but she was too goofy in it. boo bros, this chuuba is too silly for lewd, no matter how even she herself tried to convince you otherwise. she really would be great at "retarded entertainer" content, although she does need to sort her brain out, cause whatever the fuck she's doing right now with all these statements isn't helping her at all.

>>70053780
>I have no regrets
>I'm proud of it

>>70057606
not really. she also killed her bird by neglecting it and playing league. I lost all respect for her that day
https://idol.icebox.moe/0:video/LzA6L0lkb2wgQXJjaGl2ZS9ZdWtvL1VuYXJjaGl2ZWQvWVVLTy0yMDIyMTIwNy1HT1JJTExBLUQxM3dTRzlXVXdFLm1wNA
1:17 for the bird
1:23 for dog

>>70051603
seems like the stagnation made her realize the grass is greener on the other side and doesn't require you to do GFE
it's just a female thing, she just wasn't ready for the heat

>>70057307
If thats all you’re saying then I don’t really disagree, it’s just the same arguments are often used to justify the actions of anti’s, that it’s okay to act like an autist because your ire is directed at someone who deserves it. Anyone should be very well aware at this point that pandering to GFEfags is playing with fire, and Yuko got burnt.
>>70057428
Not entirely sure what you’re going for here, I’m indifferent to Nyanners and don’t really know anything about Idubbz, don’t know why you’d assume my opinions on them. The comment I was responding to was comparing boobros to lions, I would generally expect a higher level of self control for people than for wild animals, but we are talking about boobros so maybe I’m too optimistic.

>>70058167
>Anyone should be very well aware at this point that pandering to GFEfags is playing with fire, and Yuko got burnt.
she poured water into hot oil, you mean

It is so stupid to not go the GFE route if you want money and a nice life. Reminder that Rushia is still the most superchatted vtuber after being inactive for 2 years.
Here is a cheat sheet for all you stupid whores. Friday is After Work Zatsu, you drink alcohol and talk to the salarymen who have done a weeks worth of work and want to be cured by the cuteness of a girl or the sexiness of a woman. Saturday is gaming day or whatever, sunday is a nice relaxing ASMR to get your salarymen relaxed and ready for a new week or work. Wednesday is important since your salarymen need an energy boost to get through the rest of the week.
I would also heavily recommend an ASMR after your friday after work zatsu when you are dunk / tipsy, preferably you should lick some ears and breathe heavily.
Congrats you are going to need to work less than 20 hours of stream time and you will out earn whatever soul crushing job you have now.
Bonus tip: Pick up drawing as an hobby and do a patreon tier where they get to see your gravure or lewd drawings of yourself when you are good enough, wont take long since you work 20 hours a week and have a lot of spare time

>>70057939
She sounds like a terrible person.

>>70057939
>He was a mix of a pitbull
That's all I need to hear.

Hey faggots I'm not reading the entire walls of text you've been writing, tell me which ASMR she's talking about so I can go jerk off to it. Thanks.

If she had to pivot away from GFE because of management she may not have been able to say it was because of management. That might have been a stipulation for her continued employment. Think of it this way: right now, she's the one tanking, the company itself is fine. Now imagine if she had blamed management: suddenly you have a Selen situation where the people who took away the gfe were Idol. This, combined with the graduation of that other girl who was talking about setting up sex tourism and it kinda fits.

>>70055117
What a lose. Best shit ever!!!

>>70051603
>>70053780
It is hilarious to me that after all this time she still refuses to have an orgasm. She refuses to interact with her vagina at all because it "scares her".

>>70058962
she's been edging her whole life, no wonder she's retarded

>>70058264
You don't even need to go balls to the walls insane GFE where you promise to marry your viewers and shit. Just be a cute, somewhat genki, girl that focuses more on zatsu and with some sprinkle of pandering and bam, you get to distance yourself from schizos while still being able to milk them for their money without looking like a massive hypocrite when you decide to shift to new content since you "never did GFE".

>>70051603
>>Didn't hate GFE, wasn't fake, no regrets
I don't think so. "Genuine GFE" is not content, either she feels that way or she doesn't. Look at Shondo, an example of genuine GFE (if we believe her). She can't "drop her GFE content" because it's not just content, it's how she says she feels. If she can make that decision it means that she was undeniably faking it all this time.

>>70051603
>was wet the entire time doing that ASMR

>stopped pandering unicorns
>now is trying to pander coomers
is she retarded?, wtf.

>>70058763
She reconnected (publicly) with the pedophile groomers on her entirely self-managed PL at the same time she initially foreshadowed dropping GFE, retard.

honestly if she’s rebranding as an /out/tuber then drinking her own piss could have been recontextualized along those lines rather then disowned

>>70058342
>She sounds like a terrible person
You're figuring that out just now? Yuko betrayed the fanbase that she herself intentionally cultivated because she got bored of doing the act that she herself chose to do. She isn't as bad as Elira but she's somewhere on the same spectrum of sociopath.

>>70055117
Yuko approached management about her change in direction, not the other way around. This is mentioned in the member stream.

>>70061398
>the stripper wasn't actually in love with me and got a real job?
>what a fucking psychopath

>>70062328
More like
>The stripper changed roles at the strip club and just serves drinks now and gets mad if I stare at her ass.

>>70055331
See, the thing with Rushia, was that all of her supposed "betrayals" happened OFF STREAM.
If you weren't on twitter and just watched her streams alone, you wouldn't even know she was in a controversy - barring a few greys spamming that would just be ignored like usual.
For Yuko though? There's no forgetting it. Her "announcement" stream is still on her channel. The old GFE streams and posts are GONE.
And well, Michael cat was always in the 2k-5k range which won't change because her content hasn't changed.
Yuko's content has.
That's the difference.

>>70053321
> changing what video game you play is not at all the same as changing from doing lewd content and GFE.
It is though.
Just look at Okayu for the opposite effect.
She used to be just the chill tomboy cat who you hung out and played games with.
But she slowly started to be more and more lewd for her fans on streams, and ESPECIALLY in mengen ASMRs.
This WAS a slow shift in content, and it also filtered a bunch of people like her old faithful translator Jin Teramachi.
Nobody gave them shit for moving on after her content changed from non GFE --> GFE (other than a few people /here/ calling them gay), yet the opposite side ALWAYS gets shit from twitter trannies.

>>70063581
You can always go lewder with no issues. The amount you lose that want sfw is nothing compare to the amount of people you attract form nsfw.

But go NSFW to sfw is way harder. The nsfw guys will explode and the sfw don´t want to come back to a account with nsfw past.

It is possible to go back to sfw. But it´s way harder. Maybe if you do it slowly.

Belly Delphin is a interesting case on how she deliberate was reserved to go full nude and baited here followers for as long as possible. As the moment you go full smut, its hard to go back. Not sure if that is the reason of her long hiatus. Might also just she needs more money, and that the reason she is active again.

>>70064161
this is my thought on the matter as well. for lewd things there must always be an escalation, up until you go full nude, past that into straight-up porn. people always want to see more and once you do something one time people expect it to become a regular thing.
with Yuko people were sure that the lewd asmr would be masturbation or something close to that. Idol corp as it is now wouldnt have let that happen.

>>70063581
Good example but Okayu still offers that kind of non lewd experience from time to time. She flip flops between the two and never condemns hentai or seiso onigirya. Yuko on the other hand...

>>70051603
Her excuse of "people wanted GFE and not my creative streams" is so fucking stupid, those "creative" streams would have worked well with her old fanbase, while getting the same amount of money. She could've say an stupid excuse like "My asmr mic broke, no more asmr for a while" and it would've been better. Females are retarded and manipulative

>>70044686
>>70044734
Nice try, sisters! Go back to slitting your wrists for hex!

>>70064513
After i saw Yuko last member stream it confirmed my theory.

It was going overboard. She was heading the rout of Riro. Getting to attach to here fans in intimate way. She mention she got wet on the plushie stream. If she went longer like this, she either go to a point of lewd she newer can come back from or Secret member riro like club.

Didn't Yuko also just moved home to her parents again. Probably as some streamer only have their online community, that's not very healthy for your mental state. I understand that Riro also was alone and at that time only have her online community.

>>70065168
she should of just said Idol no longer finds this sort of content acceptable. but that would require Idol actually taking any sort of managerial role. they have proven many time now that they rather have the talents take the brunt of any decision they make.

>>70063581
You said it yourself there. Slow shift, that's it. If she quietly slowed down on gfe and stuff, like Lamy for example, it would cause less drama, way less.

>>70065729
Jews~

>>70065729
>she should of just said Idol no longer finds this sort of content acceptable. but that would require Idol actually taking any sort of managerial role.
This, one of the corpos jobs is to take the heat for its talents when the talents act retarded. She should have said that the GFE content went out of hand and management put a hard stop on it, voila people shit on Aviel a bit but they are also understanding that a talent cant be masturbating on youtube, problem solved

>>70065912
Oh and emphasize that it is only for her so it doesnt start drama for those who engage in a bit of GFE but dont go full pants on head retarded like Yuko

>>70065729
Does management need to say anything? People would still believe her and they can shift the blame to riro for going so far that management told her to tone it down.

>>70065948
they wouldn't even have to go that far. to my knowledge only Riro and Yuko masturbated on stream, Riro is already Nuked. its still retarded how she purged 80% of membership, but there very well could be new Idol guidelines and restrictions with the Brave merger.

You know the funny part is that she acknowledged that she hurt people but she still hasn’t apologized lol. She can’t even muster a single “sorry to the people who were hurt but my actions I didn’t want it to end this like this” or something along those lines.

>>70065319
Who the fuck is "hex"?

>>70066144
Nigger you are ignoring all the fucked up shit she did and pretending management cares she was lewd
Stop being retarded on purpose

>>70066189
almost as if she views her fans as walking ATMs rather than people with feelings who deserve kindness

>>70065912
Poko was doing lewd asmr not that long ago.
She could have said maybe that the masturbating part was the one thing Idol was banning. But Coni, Poko and Fuyo all do at the very least kissing and licking asmr.

>>70066381
I didn’t wanna believe it at first but it’s true

>>70066381
So she's a vtuber

>>70066233
>>70066449
in not denying that shes retarded. she has handled the situation in the worst way imaginable.
But my main point is that massages (masturbating) is no longer allowed. kissing is fine but until we get another massage stream from someone im going to assume that its no longer allowed. and as i said most people thought that the lewd asmr was going to be LEWD.

>>70066381
To bad she just lost those ATMs lol

>>70066819
There's plaussible deniability in that. None of the other talents were ever planning to go that far. Riro was the only other one that did it but she has been terminated a while ago.

>>70066813
you can choose not to believe me but not all vtubers are exploitative grifters
there are many well-known examples of vtubers showing genuine care for their fans by telling them to put themselves first and not neglect real life. most chuubas don't explicitly try to cultivate the most unhealthy kind of parasocial relationship in order to keep their fans dedicated and paying while simultaneously shittalking them behind their backs

>>70067429
Yuko herself was often pointed out as an example of a chuuba that truly loves their fanbase. at the end of the day its the viewers responsibility to not get too attached.

>>70067616
I mean yes and no but she was still a shitty person. Her lies were so believable but now that I look back the signs were there. I can’t recall very many instances of her showing actual negative emotions which goes to show how much of a mask she put on.

>>70064768
> never condemns hentai or seiso onigirya
yeah throwing your fans to the wolves is absolutely deplorable behavior

Not often I feel schadenfreude, but I do in this case because women normally get away with this shit (and much more). Men do not deserve to be exploited and abused at the whim of every woman just because.

she was manipulative and fake. no amount of fake crying or self cope can help her now. her legacy is the piss drinking coomer loli who betrayed her fan base.

>>70068880
the way she went from talking about how haters gonna hate, to how wet she was during the asmrs, to crying, to saying we can still consider her whatever we want she just won't be doing GFE anymore etc, from one moment to the other, really threw me off. she desperately pulled out every manipulation tactic she knows in that short stream. i couldn't fully understand why so many people call her a psychopath, but after that stream i finally understand lol

>>70069453
Yup, I watched the leak after it happened and I was genuinely blown away with how terrible of a person she is. Incredibly obvious lies piled on top of even more lies. She didn't want to hurt anyone but she's been making fun of her fans behind her back for her whole year and lied to them about tons of things as well as ghosted them completely and refuse to even address anything that she did properly and completely deflected all blame away from herself.
Pretending that she was forced into doing that kind of content or that her fans didn't support her other content was absolutely baffling to me. She's evil of the highest caliber

>>70065729
If she did that, everyone would call her out on her lies even harder as you can't see on Poko's T2 ASMR.
>captcha: XNJ00

>>70070485
link doko?

>>70069453
To me it feels like she's completely lost on what she wants to do with her career, which explains why she looked confused like that. I can't shake the feeling that she actually enjoyed most of what she did last year, but then close to the end of the year someone got into her life and started demanding her to drop the GFE, she kept going until Christmas but then the long break happened where she thought things over until the conclusion last week.
I'm not saying she's innocent in all this, she could easily have told that person to fuck off and continue working on her career with her loyal fans, but she chose to abandon them instead.

>>70039865

>>70071035
Jew Corp doesn't have much restrictions on PL activity

>>70066233
stop being retarded anon and post some evidence if you are actually sure brave have nothing to do with it, as far as i know brave only supports lewd big booba content, not cunny, very similar to production ntr.

>>70051603
>was wet the entire time doing that ASMR
theres no way she admitted this

>>70072857
have you somehow missed that poko is doing lewd shit too and isn't stopping?

>>70072857
The entire Brave thing only happened for merch anyway, I don't get why people insist they're buying Idol. The talents haven't even interacted much with each other yet.

>>70072885
watch the stream
all the evidence is there

>>70073024
you are underestimating the power of those companies and their history in youtube.

>>70045973
>disgruntled viewers
lmao, I suggest you don't read any of the /jidf/ archives.
Calling them that would be a compliment. They are literal fucking schizos in the most real way imaginable. Literally going out of their way to dox her and friends spitefully (to be fair some of her friends are also just as big a bunch of cunts as boobros were, so there's that)
Even fucking Stardusts are more accepted there now and Riro got terminated and removed from the OP. That's how much they are hated.

>>70075194
Ah yes spit in the face of your audience of hundreds and then act surprised when one guy goes too far. The remaining old boo broos could have easily shit up her member’s stream but they never did. They said their piece when she followed her degenerate friends and have kept the hate out of the public since except for a certain death note character.

>>70076977
He moved on too after her announcement, pretty clear you haven't moved on from him though

>>70077146
Yeah since the announcement yes, but I was talking about what they were doing during her disappearance. Nothing he did was particularly bad but he certainly made some noise on Twitter and the discord. Even then he could have easily done way more damage. His account shows up anytime you look up her Twitter profile. He could have put the truth in his bio but he didn’t.

>>70076977
Ah, yes, revisionism.
Perhaps you missed the part where a bunch of them literally got banned by her and Idol in general for some particular asshats.
Just like the other revisionist fucks that said "nuh uh that didn't happen" in the thread.
Archives don't lie.

>>70077487
Honestly the fact that he knows everything and has receipts for all of it and has been in DMs with management since before EN even existed, and realistically could do massive damage to her career if he wanted to yet he decided to just call her an evil cunt and make on is commendable even if he is a massive schizo

>>70051603
>GFE [...] wasn't fake
It's fake by definition, wtf is she smoking

>>70080185
How are bans relevant? I never said nobody was banned?

Yuko Yurei will pay for betraying us

>>70083328
>betraying
imagine ever trusting a woman

>>70039865
Get raped then graduate.

Don't get into GFE kids, neither side of it.

blue her is live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bytm5musOAY

>>70085952
ewwwww