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Can she survive without Hololive?

>> No.69998390

*Could

>> No.69998925

>>69998338
yes, Hololive is honestly holding her back, but she feels indebted at this point and won't/can't leave

>> No.69999461

>>69998338
suisei is a pretty cool guy

>> No.69999524

>>69998925
She can't leave without ceasing to be Suisei, she straight up doesn't have the rights to herself

>> No.69999528

>>69998338
It would be an extremely retarded decision but yes
No mocap studio, no shilling, no big brand collabs

>> No.69999612

>>69999524
jesus christ how new

>> No.69999616

>>69998338
if anything she's the most likely to make it alone, just as before

>> No.69999670

>>69999524
she's litterally the only holo for whom that's untrue.

>> No.69999696

>>69999524
hownu.ru?

>> No.69999982

She might have sold her ip to Cover as a deal we don't know

>> No.70000168

>>69998338
If she could she would be gone already.

>> No.70000501

no idea if she would actually do it, but vtubers using companies to get exposure/build a following, and then leaving and cutting out those idol management jews to make it on their own is based as fuck even if it's rare

>> No.70000591

>>69998338
Yagoo probably owns her IP by now and can Thanos snap her into non-existence like Mel if she gets out of line.

>> No.70000644

>>69998338
Yes, she could. She would be less popular, but she could

>> No.70001102

>>69999524
did you found out about vtubers through niji drama?

>> No.70001469

>>70001102
rhetorical question?
this board is overrun with drama tourists right now

>> No.70001542

>>69999524
shut the fuck up redditor faggot

>> No.70001629

>>70001469
>this board is overrun with drama tourists right now
>this board
No anon. The Catalog is

>> No.70001685

>>70001629
the catalog is the board, globaltranny

>> No.70001755

>>69998338
Survive? Sure. Thrive? Probably not.
At any rate why in the fuck would she do that? They treat her like royalty and she's grateful to Yagoo.

>> No.70001858

>>70001685
>globaltranny
Global is even worse.

>> No.70001956

>>70001685
the board is the generals. quite literally everything else is garbage.

>> No.70001974

>>69998338
Survive? Yes. Thrive? No.

>> No.70002222

>>69999524
I applaud you for collecting this many (You)'s even with such obvious bait and you deserve another for it so here you go.

>> No.70002321

>>69998338
>Become a 40-year old independent flesh idol
No.

>> No.70002413

this board has a fetish with Ssuisei leaving hololive.

>> No.70002578

>>69998338
I read this as 'Could she survive the Holocaust?' at first and my answer is yes

>> No.70002806

>>70002413
Bold of you to assume it's more than one person

>> No.70002913

>>70002413
not really it's just numbermonkey shitposters rotating on whom to fabricate bullshit for, look >>70002805

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70004142

>>69999461
for you

>> No.70005565

>>69999524
>All these replies

Look at the credits of her latest live. Hoshimachi Suisei is now a trademarked brand and has its own management division in cover.

>> No.70005616

>>69998338
Does she graduate or does she get terminated?
Does she continue to be Vtuber or does she become a flesh streamer or even quit streaming?
Does she still stream or focus on singing only?
Does her persona stay the same or does she try create a new brand?

Depending on the context i could see anything between "not much changes" and becoming Kizuna Ai in terms of relevancy.

>> No.70005899

There's definitely big labels currying for her favour already.
Sony sent her a flowerstand for MGO.

>> No.70007320

>>70000644
This. She now has at least some pull.

>> No.70007426

Susei excels at anything she does so she could just become a world class Hockey player or nulcear scientists or Prime Minster of Japan if she wanted

>> No.70007513

>>70007426
is it legal for a woman to be president in japan?

>> No.70007567

>>69998338
Yes, but unless she pulled a Dokibirb and accused Miko of sexual harassment driving her to the point of suicide, she wouldn't have as much money and fanboys as she does under Cover.

>> No.70007593

Suisei is never leaving.
>This many retards unaware she passed rights to Cover in 2022
sugoi.

>> No.70008263

>>69999670
It's an old memory but Roboco technically does as well? I remember that from long ago, at least her name and very first model. I might be misremembering. Even if she does RBC doesn't have the solo numbers to pull it off without Cover's support, nor do I think she would ever want to.

But yeah. Suisei is free if she wants to be. I don't see why she would want to right now.

>> No.70008985

>>69999612
>
>>69999670
>>69999696
>>70001102
>>70001542
When are you dramafags who don't watch vtubers going back to where you came from?

>> No.70009075

>>70008985
Nice buzzword m8

>> No.70009359

>>69998338
Cover owns the 星街すいせい trademark so she's not going anywhere.

>> No.70009471

Yes because she has a husband to take care of her (me)

>> No.70009513

Can OP survive without Hololive?

>> No.70009547

>>70000501
By that definition, does that make Kyo from NijiEN based?

>> No.70009604
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>>70007567
Miko drove her to orgasm not suicide

>> No.70009618

>>70001956
Generals are echo chambers. I guess that's what you want though.

>> No.70009763
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70009763

Yagoo even gave her her own team of dedicated servants, why would she leave?

>> No.70009815

>>70009763
Nijiniggers eternally btfo by this

>> No.70009826

>>70002321
Is she actually that old?

>> No.70009868

>>70009826
she's a cake

>> No.70009894

>>70009826
she isn't even a hag yet.

>> No.70010030

>>70009815
NijiEns dream of making even a fraction of the revenue this one blue autist is making.

>> No.70010245

>>69998338
>survive without hololive
no
>survive after hololive if she decides to leave
probably, mostly she will survive

>> No.70010660

>>70009868
>>70009894
>is a cake instead of a hag
How close?

>> No.70010771

>>70010660
she is halley comet

>> No.70010828

>>70010771 (me)
sorry I meant Hale-Bopp

>> No.70011685

>>69998338
can (you)?

>> No.70012204

>>69998338
She can always sell herself to a lesbian brothel

>> No.70012319

>>69998338
Yeah she certainly could. She is driven and talented, knows how to make sacrifices for a long-term goal. That gets you far.

>> No.70015340

>>69998338
it'd be rough, but totally.

>> No.70016633

>>69998925
I don't see how. She's one of the few that's heavily music focused and that's all an industry connections game, vs game streaming where you can just go indie and cash out. She can do that too of course but Holo is good for the access to her passions

>> No.70016670

>>69998338
Could she continue to stream and do reasonably well? Yes, absolutely.
Would she have nearly the resources and opportunities available to her, not even close.

>> No.70017635

>>70016670
Labels are probably lined up for her if she wanted to take one.
They'd just be much more restrictive than Cover and give her way less preferential treatment so I don't see why she would do that.

>> No.70020846

>>69998338
Altare will be just fine. He has a lot of supporters.

>> No.70021936

>>69999999
>>70000000

>> No.70025354

>>69998338
Of course. In fact most hoshiyomi want her to leave because that's the best way to continue her career

>> No.70025701

>>70025354
I've literally never seen a single hoshiyomi ever say that, either /here/ or outside, in fact quite the opposite. It sounds like you're making shit up by talking on behalf of a whole fanbase.

>> No.70025891

>>69998338
No, she would've quit vtubing if she did not get in hololive.

>> No.70025940

>>70025701
Suisei wants to be a mainstream artist and Hololive provides a cap on that. If Suisei wants to keep getting bigger she needs to branch out to a different audience. She's too talented for Hololive at this point anyway.

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>>70025940
>Suisei wants to be a mainstream artist and Hololive provides a cap on that.
hololive has quite literally elevated her position and given her all the chances she's gratefully taken advantage of, including TFT. what the literal fuck are you talking about? are you trolling? i'm gonna assume you're just doing a shitty troll attempt.

>> No.70026218

>>70005899
She's said she doesn't want to be tied to a label. Although obviously she meant as a solo act specifically, because MGO is on a label (VIA/Toys Factory). Incidentally, Sony have an existing business relationship with hololive (they're the distributor for most of Cover's physical CD releases, including Suisei's).

>>70025940
She wants to be mainstream as a vtuber, that's why the First Take appearance was such a big deal. Obviously Cover are best positioned to enable that right now.

>> No.70026390

>>70026154
It's some schizo numbermonkey that thinks parroting that every single day and raiding the Suisei thread will make people fall for it somehow. Look >>69598533

>> No.70026399

>>69998338
she could, but i dont think she would
what does she really have to gain by going outside cover? cover is letting her do whatever she wants, and gives her an extra layer of security, equipment (studio), and networking
im sure cover also invests out of their ass for her in regards to vocal trainers, managers, etc.

>> No.70026436

>>70026154
TFT is nice but meanwhile Ado is out there filling out stadiums while Cover is wasting money on a NFTearth instead of investing into Suisei's career. Hololive has done a lot for sure but how much more can they do for her?

>> No.70026468

>>70026390
For what purpose? what's this mental illness?

>> No.70026543

>>70026468
>mental illness
Yes.

>> No.70026621

>>70026390
Why is it always /#/schizos?

>> No.70026634

>>70026468
Is it mental illness to want Suisei to succeed without having to kneel to a corpo who takes an unfair share of the profits?

>> No.70026717

>>70026621
Dunno, but don't engage with the mentally ill.

>> No.70026902
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70026902

>he thinks the label Ado's signed to is less restrictive and gives her more money
なに?

>> No.70027057

>>70026902
You can't seriously think Cover is giving Suisei more

>> No.70027209

>>70026390
That post is actually incredibly telling, since he mentions "hololive fans schizo'd out on her" when she herself literally said on stream she knew it wasn't hololive fans

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70027353

>>70027209
Yeah it's probably a nijinigger just like it was proven those shitstirrers back then were

>> No.70027497

>>70027057
proportionately they surely do. music labels are predatory as fuck, nijisanji look white compared to them.

>> No.70027513

Suischizo? Get new material you've been saying this shit for 3 years.

>> No.70027616

>>70027057
Their talent remuneration is in their public financials anon. They pay holos a shitload of money, so much that shareholders complained they should pay them less so the company could make more

>> No.70027625

>>70002321
>idol
She hates that stuff, she would just be a jpop singer, no idol baggage even wanted.

>> No.70027653

>>70026390
>>70026621
he's from /hlg/, newtards.

>> No.70027732

>>70026218
She wants to he a famous singer, vtuber or not anon.

>> No.70027932

>>70000591
>thanos snap

zoomer nigger kill yourself NOW

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70028022

>>70027625
her greeting literally calls herself an idol vtuber

>> No.70028089

>>70028022
don't reply to niggers threadreaders.

>> No.70028087

>>70026634
cover literally promotes her 24/7 and she's one of the known millionare holos
yeah, holo takes a share of her revenue, but they assist with vocal training, merch promoting/producing, managing, and networking as mentioned.
do you think suisei would earn more if she has to take on all those costs by herself?
what the fuck are you on you spastic monkey.

>> No.70028143

>>70027653
I thought he was from global
I mean we've seen this sort of posting on there
>>70027209
I mean named the beast and it recoiled in horror be being named.

>> No.70028230

>>70028022
Anon she is not an idol, she actively avoids even behaving like an idol.

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70028336

>>70028230
her famous standing pose is literally from idolm@sters

>> No.70028380

Do nijiniggers have a humilliation fetish or something?

>> No.70028596

>>70028336
>idolm@sters
Anyone notice a sharp uptick in people seething about Suisei after her collab with hem was announced?

>> No.70029374

>>70028596
Not really, imas fans seem to mostly be mad at the devs, especially because Suisei is also a fan.
She's been the main target of JP holo antis for a long time though, so you can basically guarantee they will try to force an ebin yabberino out of literally anything she is involved in.

>> No.70032103

>>69998338
why?

>> No.70032885

>>70017635
>leave cover jews
>sign with music jews
Ah yes, biggus brainus in action

>> No.70033917

>>69998338
She will. You can already tell it's her last year there. Watch out for a graduation tour and overly sappy moments. The yab killed her good will in the hololive fanbase so now she's basically forced to leave.

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70034491

Hey suischizo, kneel and take the entire length of my thick cock in your throat and blow me until I cum

>> No.70034552

>>69998338
She'll just blend in with the rest of the singers out there.

>> No.70034605

>>70034491
>>70026717

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>>69998338

>> No.70040077

>>70008263
Roboco never existed outside of hololive and Suisei is not free.

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