/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Quote:
“Let's keep laughing together, Nothing can stop us at all” – Dokibird
>Anthem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzC7Xcfw3O8

>>70006195
Me on her hat.

>>70006195
Doki my beloved

D.A.D LOVE

>>70006954
CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>70006865
DAD LOVE!

>https://twitter.com/hinatsu_sd/status/1761716412647608786/photo/1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHP4UqFCcEI

Are there any other Doki 1.0 VOD archives other than the handful on her Youtube channel? I've been watching the Superliminal one which is pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZYx5UQSL6c&t=1508s
Doki...

>>70006954
CUTE CUTE CUTE

Is there a stream today?

>>70007734
No, today's a rest day, but she'll be back on tomorrow, I believe

>>70007734
today is the day we miss her my goon...

Dokibird but it’s the year 2056 and you have to protect her from the genetically engineered lizard monsters that are trying to harvest her big beautiful brain.

>>70007734
Sunday is the worst day for us goons

>>70007865
>>70007935
>>70008150
Gotcha, thanks goons

>>70006954
CUTE

>>70007967
Cool it with the antisemitic remarks, anon.

>>70006195
How big are her Dokis anyway?

I want to doki doki's doki!

>>70009050
Premium Medium!

>>70008150
Wow, she's a Christian

>LEAKED DOKI NUDES

>>70009859
god DAMN

>>70008834

>https://twitter.com/HikamioHikami/status/1761526421116326391/photo/1
Fucken kino artist in my opinion

no doki no stream make anon go crazy...

>>70010936
I am perfectly sane.
Now excuse me while I gather more people for the ritual sacrifice to summon Doki

Doki BJD looking good so far.

#LoveForDoki

>>70009859

>>70009859
MODS!!!111!

I actually like that she doesn't stream on sunday, she puts out more content than I can (or should, really) watch all of in the first place, so a breather is nice.

>>70012086
Plus, Sunday's traditionally meant to be a day of rest as well. Even if you're not particularly religious, having the last day of the week be one for a breather is always appreciated.

>>70006195
That tomato giving himself a wank? Me.

>>70011256
Here's the source for that and it was also retweeted by Doki, Nice
>https://twitter.com/watchu030/status/1761719163469660622/photo/1
>>70012086
>>70012274
Yeah, I agree hopefully she rests well.

>>70009859
Plumb body type, soft skin, red faced from missing yet another batarang throw. The perfect woman.

>>70006195
>Smell Doki feet
>Kiss Doki feet
>Suck Doki toes

>>70012274
I doubt that she's resting, unfortunately. That's just how she is, though. Always seems to be running at a thousand miles a minute.

uuuu.....

>>70014841
Look at him go!

Yo Dragoons, wasn't feeling too well this past week so didn't watch any of doki's streams or anyone's desu so...
will she play neopets this week?

>>70015274
She didn't say anything about neopets so I don't think so.

>>70015274
We already have Shylily collab, batman, helldivers and charity auction locked in. Chances are slim.

>>70015274
I will forever hate Niji for sniping Neopets, it was supposed to be a cute autistic stream...

>>70015274
Only 2 open slots if she streams 6 times. It's possible, but unlikely.

>>70015274
Nah, but we have Helldivers 2 with Matara, Sayu, and RazielWarmonic to look forward too!

>>70015722
Still trying to push that line-up, huh?

>>70015424
>>70015677
Yeah, that was low af but didn't intent to derail, just honest question
>>70015490
>>70015713
>>70015722
Didn't realize she had already planed the whole week in advance, gotta catch up on Batman's playthrough. thanks anons

What's the lartgest animal Doki would be able to defeat if she were to be attacked?

>>70015833
A T-Rex, easily.

>>70015490
Yeah I think she is most likely making sure to stack a full schedule so the balls keeps rolling. Her momentum has been really good already.

>>70015833
A baby goat

On this lazy sunday, I binge watched all of the new avatar series.
it's pretty fucking bad lmao

>>70015806
Your welcome goon

>>70015833
All out, no escape behaviour, no striking first, no medical attention afterwards? Middle sized dog is where I start expecting draws, squirrel if we go with dying from infection weeks later.

>>70015833
Barn Owl, they might be impressive but since she already has experience with owls it would be pretty easy for her.

>>70015967
There is a new avatar series????

>>70015967
Airbending or smurfs?

>>70015967
>new avatar series.
????

>>70016808
>>70016860
>>70016989
Air bender Live action series on netflix

>>70017182
>Live action
>netflix
Lost me

>>70017182
>Live action
>Netflix
DOKI WATCHALONG INCOMING

>>70017608
>WATCHALONG
nah, but she'll watch some youtube shorts and a 5min analysis video about it and then rant on stream for 30 minutes about how bad the show is.

>>70017776
I do that all the time with movies and games.

>>70017182
>netflix live action avatar series
...she's gonna make us watch it, isn't she...

>>70017776
Based

>>70017776
Mmmm based?

>>70018034
She made us watch the film I doubt she'll make us watch the live action series

>>70018034
>>70018492
The horror, so she really is a evil sadistic person like the sisters say..

>>70017776
just like me frfr

>>70018733
She made me watch DB Evolution... Goku was an American school student UUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>70017776
Doki can't read, which is why she consumes ALL things comics via youtube shorts...

Heading to Bed now bros, hopefully next week is a good one too... Final week of the course for me as well bros, soon I'll be free again!!
Goodnight Goons~

>>70019885
Sleep well dragoon

>>70019885
Gn !

>>70019885
See ya next time goon o7

>>70019885
Rest well Dragoon!

After Batman, which superhero will she play as next?

>>70021703
Anon, your jpg for ants...

>>70021703
Mini Dokiass...

>>70021445
Master Chief from Halo series.

>>70021703
No...

https://twitter.com/GOG48058623/status/1761865244736114867

>>70022143
The harvest was bountiful

>>70022143
SEEEEEEEEX

>>70022143

TSB

>>70006956
sauce?

https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1761914886165070264

dragoons are lazy
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1761914886165070264

>>70023110
Fantastic, thanks man !

>>70023110
>>70023150
>RPR
Nice

>>70023110
>>70023150
>Sonic Dreams Collection
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>70023110
Tsb is back!
>here before newfgs bitch about males

>>70023110
>>70023150
Helldivers with rpr and WHO

>>70023110
>>70023150
>Helldivers 2 Collab
Besides RPR I don't have a clue who the other 2 are

>>70023403
kek, only tourist trying to start shit and newfags will post about that, we don't really care here
>>70023435
Apparently TSB but I have no idea Tbh

>>70023391
Fun fact: This unoriginal mock of the worst part of the Sonic fandom everyone's seen mocked a hundred thousand times was made by the same person who would go on to create Tattletail

>>70023435
Rpr, altare and axel's past life

>>70023403
>newfags
not even that, come on, we all know they're just tourists trying to stir shit

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If that's them I wouldn't call it out here

>>70023563
Wait really???

>>70023585
>>70022506
retard

>>70023687
Yes. They still use those accounts occasionally as PNGtubers for stuff they don't have perms for or collabs with indies.

TSB lives on Helldivers

>>70023563
Really? sugoi

>>70023687
Yep, pleasantly surprised they're allowed to do that. That just means the boys are truly homies that got your back

If they are using their old personas then does that mean she is banned from collabing with holos?

>>70023825
Not exactly banned but might still be too early for a Collab with Holo

>>70023825
Cover doesn't have Helldivers 2 perms

>TSB
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN120kCiVyQ
>LETS FUCKEN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>70023970
Hell yeah, I am right there with you !

>>70023825
Could just be they don't have the game perms. They used those accounts to stream Lethal Company back when Cover didn't have perms for it.

Doki’s friends and Dragoon allies
>”Not” Mumei – Hoomans
>Gumi - Gumibros
>Niko1f from four years ago - Nikostans
>Uto - Tenshimps
>Dtto - Dlave
>U-san - U-reis or Phantoms
>Filian – Snackers
>Surefour - SFbros
>PiaPi - PiaPickles
>Shylily – Shrimpies
>RPR - RPRbros
>“Not” Axel Syrios - Axelotls
>“Not” Regis Altare - Altventurer/Cultare
I will update the list whenever someone or Doki herself states they are friends/acquaintances or when collabs have been finalized.

>>70023825
No they just don't have Helldiver perms probably.
For example Bettel collabed with Kuro right after he came back and played Letha Company with him but he didn't stream it cause they didn't have LC perms yet. Then he did a stream with a game they did have perms for
And also Apex is fucking boring and no one wants that to be their return stream

>>70024280
Cheers man, this brightens my mood

>>70024324
You really typed LC once in there just to make the whole sentence more confused there, nicely done.

>>70023110
>>70023150
>WolfQuest
>Shylily
Of course that game would be their first solo collab

>>70024280
Kindly add the besties, nicewigg and tempo. They've implied their support to Doki everytime someone mentions her on their stream, they're also planning something on march

>>70023585
WHR6d2hqPwo=

>>70023110
I'm sorry but
>doing member stream at peak-hours
>doing public stream at 11pm
It's like she's not even serious about her career

>>70024280
>>70024778
What about the Xset boys? Nocturnal got her in contact with Mr.Man and she was playing apex with them when she was on her lowest

>number monkey post
Don't like? GTFO

>>70024899
the other 3 are still in Japan and she's accommodating them

>>70024899
the collab partners are in Japan, probably 10AM is ungodly hours for them

>>70024899
she has said before she tries to schedule collabs at convenient times for collab partners. it's not always about her dude

>>70024899
It's probably to do with the times her collab partners can make it, you fucking twat.

Don't engage with bait

>>70024778
>>70025030
Ogey, I will next time but I'm also going to need more info on them if you can provide it. Thank you.

>>70023110
It's personally too cringy for me to watch notshit. I could barely even watch Doki's return stream it now I'm supposed to watch TWO not streams? It'll just be too awkward for me but I'm glad they're doing it

Sonic Dreams Collection and Wolf Quest look scuffed as fuck
I'm excited

Ok it's time for me to speak up about this. I think Doki is making choices that are self-destructive to her career as a whole, believing her popularity is an infinite well.
>Playing Batman 3 times in a row instead of mixing in a variety
>taking long breaks from youtube to stream on twitch
>playing the one buff-game she has on her list at 11 pm
At a certain point you can't just do whatever you please, you have to treat your channel like a rosebush you are pruning and nurturing.

Playing the same game 3x in a row on youtube, basically you are filtering most of the audience which doesn't necessarily like that game. Niji tends to mix in a variety which is a point in their favor. Why let good habits die?

She has to be serious about her career because the indie world is tough. You're exposed to the elements with no buffer between you and the harsh rain. It's just you in the chair, and the audience out there, nothing is protecting you or saving you from the sharp rocks. It's not something you can take lightly

monkey

>number monkey post
Fuck off then mongrel

>>70025485
>SHUT THE FUCK FAGGOT TSB IS BACK
LETS GOOOOO

monkeys ITT watch out goons!

Man this week is gonna be fucking kino. notTSB really makes me happy, Wolfquest with Lily is going to be fucking funny and Sonic Dreams... well lets just say that's not your typical Sonic game.

Didn't read
>TSB IS BACK

>NUMBERS
>NUMBERS
>NUMBERS
>NUMBERS
>NUMBERS

>Hide stub

>>70025230
Numbermonkeys aren't trolling or baiting, they just geniunely belong in an institution. Unfortunately, they closed them all down, so now we all get to suffer.

numbermonkey.jpg

notTSB is actually kinda based
imagine if nijis could do that with their PL instead of being slaves

>>70021984
>Master Chief
>Capeshit
Go back

Okay seriously can you not act like the shitters in chat who go "notchubba x omg"

>>70025713
ngl if nijis could do this their niji accounts would be near dead lmao

>>70025690
>>70025607
>tfw will be sleeping at that hour
VOD time it is then

>>70025762
>

If she played halo it would be fucking amazing

>notTSB
We are so back bros

I love how smug her model is, it makes me want to spit shine her clit 24/7

>>70025884
That's a fucking poncho, nigga

sad but understandable that yagoo cant let them play on corpo accounts.
After all we know how petty niji is and they would probably deny access to the JP side eventhough its totally unrelated.

>>70026001
>nigga

nigger

Poking my head over from the stars side, we love Doki very much and I'm super hyped that they're getting the squad back together, our boys have been chomping at the bit to get Helldivers perms recently. Axel and Altare have been in maximum brojob mode all Japan trip, should be a blast of a good time.

>>70025921
She is cooking tomato sauce, and its my favorite.

>>70025879
I have to work the next morning of the Helldivers stream so I'll definitely have to VOD it, unfortunately. I'm way more happy that it's happening at all than I am upset that I can't make it live, though.

Axel has been extremely based regarding the entire situation so its not surprising. Ragus on the other hand is.

>>70026074
Did I fucking stutter niggAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>WINNING

>>70025276
Just put "Xset apex team" instead of their names, Mr.Man or BySovereign works for Xset and some of the collab selen had was with their apex pro team, Nocturnal and FunFPS
Sikezz signed with another org

>>70026192
I had never seen that, nice art anon

>>70026192
Every day I mourn Commanderlen's gorgeous sideboobs and thighs...

>>70026036
You think they had to ask if they could do it at all? I'm kind of hoping they did ask because that what mean actual Holo collabs once more time passes wouldn't be off the table.

Was wondering who those names were, it's TSB, I'm so pumped lads.

>>70026428
im saying that if they did it, niji would probably block all collabs even if its on the japanese side. They dont need nijis permission to collab with doki but they would no doubt be pissy if they featured her. And there could be nothing they could do about it. So its easier to keep niji happy for the sake of JPs collabing and letting homos collab on PLs with her.

>>70026428
Doki WILL have hot kissy gay sex with an owl onstream.

>>70026320
Ogey like this
>Xset Apex Team - Xsetbros

i guess she can't collab with the holobrand anymore? not surprised considering she had to mention shachi instead of m00m a while back.

>>70026689
I really hope we can see them again
>>70026842
They don't have perms for Helldivers and for what I've seen on MANS the boys REALLY want to play helldivers

>>70021445
She should play Prototype, it's not proper capeshit since it's not based on a comic book series, but its good all the same. Plus she can rip the PC port a new asshole with how necessary fan patches are. also because its a canuck made game, gotta rep leaf pride
Beyond that I'd love her to play inFAMOUS since both games are insanely cheap to collect for on PS3. But she may need an HDMI splitter because the PS3 has HD Copy Protection.

>>70026842
This >>70026889 and knowing her she is being considerate of them. She is more likely waiting for when things to cool down first before a collab with the Holobrand.

>>70026984
I would love to see her okay either. I know a few dragoons wanted tried suggested them a few times

>>70026842
too early to assume, nottempus pretty freely use their PLs to stream whatever they feel like if its convenient

>>70026889
good point but won't this make it kinda awkward?
>huh, these 2 sounds familiar
>fast forward
>axel and altare collabs with doki
>huh, oh!
it's like publicly revealing their RMs KEK

>>70027277
ina collabed with henya and pikamee
there is no such problem.

>>70027277
Even more reason to like the guys, they are not stupid about RMs accounts and they are willing to expose that since she has a lot of eyes on her
>>70027373
Not the same tho

>>70024280
>>70024778
>>70025030
>>70025276
Don't do that until after Doki has actually streamed with those Apex "Pros".

>>70027277
they don't really care when it comes to this (specifically tempus doesn't care)
they've done tempus PL collabs before, its kinda like an open secret

>>70027178
It does make me curious though, because in hindsight tons of superhero games tend to be fightan games or open world games. Has there been much "linear" capeshit games as of late? I guess Marvel Ultimate Alliance counts but I've still yet to touch the first two.

>>70027137
Without a doubt, they are in touch behind the scenes

>>70006195
Beautiful Blonde Princess with Big Beautiful Milkers!

>>70027277
Nigga they will probably make a fucking
>Team Cobra Bite
Joke in the stream they don't care
And this wouldn't be the first time Holos do blatant shit like this that would reveal them JPs have done astronomically worse

>>70027277
Past Life autism seems to be decreasing in general.

>>70027495
Why not? Her manager is literally Xset

>>70027495
Ogey, I will put it on hold for now until more info comes out.

>>70027536
yeah, and holostars are used to be shit on, so they can fully empathize with the shitstorm she has been through. Pretty sure they had a good talk about that behind the scenes.

>>70026889
>I really hope we can see them again
Don't worry, Dragoon. I believe in birdowl
sex

>>70026609
We are so back goons

>>70027725
It attracts unwanted attention from the catalogue. If you were around during Doki's days as Selen you'd remember what used to happen.

someone put doki's schedule in catalog, so be prepared for even more tourists...

I hope she gets a PC soon soon just so she doesn't have to put up with the constant crashing anymore ...

>>70027743
Thanks, Bro!

>>70027832
Schizo

>Wolf Quest
She's so Mumeicore

>>70027876
She only just got her PC checked a few months ago. She doesn't need a new one!

>>70027997
She needs a PC transplant... you have to let it go...

>>70025276
Oh one of the times they mentioned her was on wigg's last stream before going to japan, he was yelling into the mic saying that doki should check her DM's lmao while talking to tempo

>>70027945
>She's so Mumeicore

>>70027785
Axel had a hard time coping with the fact that he couldn't really support her openly, at least that's what I gathered from the one time he alluded to it.

>>70027945
>She's so Mumeicore
righto

>>70027657
I think that, in the long run, Doki might prove to be relatively influential in signalling to other western vtubers that bypassing PL autism can be a good way to take ownership of their identity back from the agency jews if the need arises.

>>70027997
She needs someone to look over her bios settings in reference to her CPU. It's the most likely culprit to her current issues.

>>70028051
She bought a new graphics card for that thing back then too, all she needs to do is look up the widespread problems people are having with Intel, and then she'll know how to fix it.

>>70028169
Yeah, he is the sort of person who cares. This whole thing must have been a real drama for her personal friend group as a whole - nobody likes seeing their friends being abused by an employer / co-workers. Or have them end up in the hospital over it.

>>70025713
LMAO Guess who's another homie who made an acct just this month and is actively streaming there and also following doki while inactive in the niji persona?
>original homie, the fish guy

>She can't stop winning

>>70028357
The angler himself.

>>70027277
This already happened actually. Mori collabed with Ironmouse as her holo and rm in the same year

I thought that the Sonic Dreams Collection was the Sonic Gems Collection for a second, and got excited thinking that she was going to play Sonic R, and Sonic CD. I always get those 2 mixed up.

>>70006956
Time for a threesome!

>>70022143
SEEEEEEXXXXXX!!!

>>70028528
Hell yeah, we are SO back

>>70028666
nta but damn I forgot about mori, the amount of PL collabs she's had does imply that holo is relatively lax compared to niji about what talents can do on those accounts

>>70028722
Dear god I remember some of the things in this collection. WTF were they on when they made this

>>70028998
Mori is indeed a good example

>>70028357
WAIT A MINUTE
PLEASE I NEED THIS INFO
I LOVE HIM SO MUCH

>>70028514
and I can't stop gooning to her vods

>>70028315
Do Intel CPUs have problems? Because it's not like she's using an Arc GPU or anything like that, she has a 4080 I thought.

>>70028722
I thought the same thing too. All I know is that there's preggers Sonic or something. I wonder if she'll get aroused while playing it

>>70028998
Also remember Kson streamed from time to time during the Coco era as well. In fact she was the first time I really started learning about "PL"s because of the time she accidentally used her Coco opening for a Kson stream lmao.

>>70029333
Holy shit, how'd she react?

>>70028998
Cover is pretty chill regarding that, the one thing they won't allow tho, at least for EN, is using a Live2D model. So pretty much all of them have to be PNG Tubers

>>70028998
Don't forget about Noel, too. They're definitely fine with their talents using their PLs

>>70029520
>the one thing they won't allow tho, at least for EN, is using a Live2D model
how do we know that specifically? not that I'm saying it's bullshit

Not sure what these people not on the schedule have to do with Doki....

>>70029097
I gotchu. Not!bonbon is 10jin on twt, the white haired anime man

>>70029630
Thank you so much

>>70029630
TIL cheers anon, this whole convo has been really informative. I appreciate you guys !

>>70029520
>at least for EN, is using a Live2D model
What about 3D models? I remember notAme using her 3D model for an (apex?) training stream on twitch like 2 years ago.

>>70029902
not sure, maybe they had different terms back then, but it could also be seen as not competing if, let's say, it was a meme 3d model instead of a serious "3d vtuber model"

How many times will Notdingo slip during the streeam?
I'd say 3

>>70029585
>Used to use Live2d before joining Holo
>Suddenly use PNG or Facecam on their PLs after joining Holo, their previous Live2D model never to be seen again til they graduate from Holo
Safe to say that the Holo contract doesn't allow you to use a Live2D model

>>70029727
>>70029814
No probs, just learned about it today too when i saw a screenshot of him following doki

>>70030056
Last PL collab with 4 guild members, he slipped the most and others also slipped on addressing him because he set his in-game name to something other than his usual handle. Expect a lot of false starts and pauses to collect themselves before speaking, our dog is very stupid.

>>70030056
>>70030249
I bet you their babysitter would slip first

>>70029434
I don't remember, it was a long fucking time ago and I only saw it via a clip so it didn't give a lot of context iirc. I'm almost certain she shut it down and murdered the vod immediately.

>>70030330
I trust in the remainig guy at least

>>70030056
Honestly I'm expecting everyone to slip at least a couple of times

>>70029565
Actually yeah, that's the biggest one. I mean hell, we've actually seen her nipple and they don't seem to give a fuck.

>>70023477
Altare and Axel but flesh

>>70030413
This. The ONLY one that doesn't have a different name is rpr.

>>70030056
Do you think they'll accidentally/intentionally namedrop team snakebite

>>70030597
Based if they do desu. The people might have changed, but the vibe hasn't.

Also TSB isn't copyrighted. I think.

>>70023110
SOON

>>70030597
Legally distinct Team Serpent Bite

>>70030708
Fuck yeah

>>70030797
kek

>>70028357
I'm thinking bassed

>>70030056
>Notdingo
I expect everyone to slip at least once, no way doki isn't calling dingo by his usual name

Need me some pixel-art of Doki, I might just have to get off my ass and make some for Twitter. But first work-week duties *sigh*

>>70031968

>>70032372
Cute, thanks man. Gotta look at beautiful things to get a better perspective in life !

>>70032433
>thanks man
No problem goon
>>70032372
I forgot to include the link
>https://twitter.com/mushroom_rt/status/1755304445485945300

What if Doki sets off a massive wave where everyone just says "fuck it" to their corpo and just goes back to their PL's to hang out and have fun?

>>70032863
That's not going to happen. Doki's situation is extremely unique because of a masterclass on being a shitty company by Niji. Other livers will not get the same kind of support.

>>70032863
If it didn't happen immediately when nijisanji screwed the pooch, came inside it and then presented it to the entire family, then it simply won't happen. The people in bad corpos are mind-broken and the ones if good corpos (if they exist) have no reason to leave.

>>70032863

>>70032863
While I am not sure it will be a massive wave. You can bet others are watching how she handles the disconnect, and comes back into her own. She made it possible, and that does inspire.

Like >>70033009 is saying, Niji handled this shit exceptionally badly. It was a masterclass in not letting your immature employees run the company branch.

Don't care post cute Doki's and Selen's now!

>>70033188
Dragoons only want one thing, and its disgusting

picrel

>>70033184
Being fine after quitting a corp already happend 5ish times. its not really historic.

>>70033009
>>70033064
yeah, for sure. I kinda meant more like maintaining your corpo persona while being more active on the PL. Just seems like its a rising trend these days.

>>70033188
Time for a celebration?

>>70029585
>>70030096
There's also a noncompete period after graduation, I assume? Or maybe dependent on individual contact. Orc was a PNGtuber for a while after.

all dokibird does is laugh at games for an audience of internet-addicted 30 year olds

>>70023110
>>70023150
It's wild how many more friends she has at Cover compared to Anycolor, considering how they're seen as direct competitors. Granted I know Anycolor was the only one being guarded about the crossover collabs and whatever friends she has at NijiEN (if any) can't speak up about her. I'm sure even their PLs are being watched like they were inmates in a jailhouse. Still, the powers that be in this universe did Doki dirty by leading her to Nijisanji. Happy where's she at now, totally, and being a big indie is arguably better for her than being any corpo vtuber. Just wish she didn't have to pay the price she did for this.

Really happy for Axel's PL. Axel is one of the EN Stars I still follow, from the very beginning. I know how he is about his friends, and this must be giving him so much joy and relief.

>>70033690
vtuber contracts sound fucking awful. From what we can assemble together, they go something like: Here is an avatar worth a few thousand dollars. Now, give us 30%+ of all the money you make and 97%+ of all sold merch. We won't give you anything else, but you have to ask for our permission for anything you do.

Even the army gives you a better deal.

>>70034047

>>70034047
b-based

>>70033690
He revived his live2D five months to the day after they went MIA from the guild, about 15 weeks after they graduated. Both orc and professor have spoken about how they'd like to have gotten new vtuber models made asap after grad but it all happened too quick and they had no time to prep or commission anyone.

>>70034093
Axel is a real homie fr fr

>>70034047
Dokibird-sama! I kneeeel!

https://twitter.com/Jourd4n_/status/1761816176311849434
Here something on topic! have a Doki with her Hair down!

Hmmm... Today I will make a doki f-list profile.

>>70034047

>>70034137
They also (should) promote you and grow your brand, as well as organizing merchandise creation from planning to distribution, and once you're established, manage your sponsorships and branding deals. It's fucking hard to grow from a 0 viewer nobody to the level of success that someone like Shylily is at, and is honestly more luck than anything else. Signing that deal hedges you against luck and allows you the audience to actually shine. Or at least that's how it works on paper, and seems to work for Holo/did work for Niji, until recent debuts just had no marketing or support at all.
Making your own business so you get all profits sounds great, until you realize that 1 in 5 business fail outright, and probably a fair portion more barely keep themselves going.

>>70034047
Pretty based, I can appreciate her chasing that niche

>>70034375
Me on the bottom right

>>70034677
It's what they should do, but rhat is clearly not in the contract. Otherwise, failure corpo v-tubers would be able to call legal action or sever ties on the basis of the corpo not holding their end of the deal. It is implied by the shit going on that those thibgs you mentioned are bot contractual obligations.

>>70033591
Ah I see what you're saying. I still don't think it's going to be a big thing, unless you're ready to move on from the company. It feels like bad form if used too often and readily.

>>70035075
Even if its in the contract, if there are no guaranteed numbers or the minimum is low, there isnt anything legaly.

This convo has nothing to do with Doki

>>70034047
So...an actual fun Vtuber? Gotcha

>>70034375
Me on her shoulder!

>>70035379
It has everything to do with how Dokibird got raped to near death by Nijjers.

>>70035075
Yeah that's a different kind of problem, it's entertainment, and even in entertainment it's a new industry. That means there's plenty of people who are naive and don't really know how to get a good contract, and even those that do are stuck in the same rut because they're easily passed over in favor of those who won't backtalk so much. It's like the "passion tax" if you work in the games industry, you're easily replaceable by tons of people who are willing to be abused.
Even with that unfortunate reality though, going corp has a big benefit. Yeah you're only making like 16% of the total revenue you're generating, but 16% of 1million USD is still much bigger than 100% of 50k

>>70034047
god i want to marry her

>>70035503
Take discussion of Niji to the Niji thread, and NijiEN to that thread. They're the ones who need convincing that the corp sucks.

https://www.youtube.com/@DokibirdVODs

btw Twitch Rivals Day 1 vod went up on YT 30mins ago.

>Derails thread into talking about niji
>IT's aBoUt Doki!
No one here cares about that place anymore. Stop shitting up the thread with it tourist
>>70035739
NICE! adding it to the OP for next bread

>>70035685
Taking anti- disscussion to a -general is trolling. We are having a disscussion here.

>>70035900
>We are having a disscussion here
yeah, an off topic one

>>70035685
Don't be that way, goon. We're lucky to have really any conversation on off days, lest you want the thread to be shit up by people coming in on pg 10 to tell us we should just go to /lig/.

>>70034137
AFAIK Anycolor is just an exception, despite their large size they only give 2% of the merch profits to the talents. That said, at least for the EN scene at least, corps based in Japan that aren't Hololive will probably go out of vogue soon. The sheer amount of legal red tape that you have to go through as an English speaking talent without the guarantee of support just isn't really worth it. At least if you're in Anycolor where the branch's popularity is declining and you have to compete against other talents for resources/money/fame, its just not worth it in this case. But oddly enough you get smaller companies like V4Mirai who are still willing to fork out 3D models for their EN talents so who knows.

>>70035939
On topic, it relates to Dokibird's situation. You must be one of the assholes that were reporting us when we were concern fagging about her no longer updating steam names (which we learned later was around the time of her second attempt.). Fuck off toxic positivity dragoon.

>Wants to shit up the thread on a off day
No
>It's about doki!
No you're shitting up the thread now about corpo contracts Fuck off

>>70036304
Also fuck of Flipise you aren't welcomed here you clout chasing stalker

>>70034137
Yeah there's a lot of red tape for sure, and it's super irritating to deal with as a human. But I feel like a lot of people who don't have much experience studying or working in the media industry significantly underestimate the sheer importance of branding. Its impact is colossal. When you sign on to an agency, the thing you're receiving is support and pre-existing infrastructure, as well as the brand name of the org. Smaller agencies only offer the support infrastructure, but the large ones like Holo and Niji can let you coast by on brand name for a certain point.

It's like franchising Mcdonalds. If you open Anon's Furger and Snurger joint in a small town, you'll get a core audience but it's difficult to explode with popularity. If you contact your local Mcdonalds embassy and start up a franchise in the same spot, travelers driving past will always hit you up because they know it's a Mcdonalds. You then have to deal with the frustration of running a Mcdonalds, but it's the same concept in the end. You receive more than you would have before. WAY more, in cases, at the cost of no longer being able to run your burger joint however the fuck you please.

>>70029434
If I remember right, I think she just laughed it off and told everybody to ignore it. That could be Noel though, or it's the same for both. Both were total dunderheads when it came to opsec.

>>70036544
Yeah, but Niji is more like opening a 7/11 on a block with 217 others in the area that were established before you, with 20 more on the way in the next year. Maybe not anymore lmao

>>70036544
>But I feel like a lot of people who don't have much experience studying or working in the media industry significantly underestimate the sheer importance of branding. Its impact is colossal.
Not to mention that people end up being fans of the agency itself, e.g. the large share of Hololive fans who will be immediately dismissive of any non-Hololive vtuber. In exchange for you providing the actual value, the agency basically gives the green stamp that these people are allowed to enjoy your content.

>>70036941
I think that was Noel. To be fair, everyone already knew. Not many JP women with tits quite that big.

>>70037011
People who have the corpo as their oshi are disgusting.

>>70036544
As someone who worked PR for a large conglomerate (electronics), having to deal with angry clients and the public. People on here have no idea how much reputation matters, especially once you get bigger. The reputation can make or break the initiatives you take, before you even start, and you have to craft things to consider the current sentiments.

It is not nothing to be infamous. It can be a real anchor around your neck. So glad I do not work in that field anymore. The stress is not worth the money. Now I hide behind my screen at a desk, and it is cozy, albeit less profitable.

>>70036954
Very true, I wanted to include an example of a town oversaturated with Mcdonalds branches, but felt it wasn't necessary in the end. The watering down of the brand is another thing, that makes them way less desirable to franchise with. And probably not at all anymore.

>>70037385
Yeah, but you gotta understand that those kind of tribalfags are a decent chunk of vtuber fanbases in general. It ain't a good thing, but it's just the reality of the ecosystem right now.

>/HAHA/ - Corpo Contract General
Weird thought this was a General about a Chubba

The drama is over. Doki literally wants to move on and Niji has yet to make a move against her. What Niji does now does not concern us unless something happens in the future. Also, fuck off the Anti-corp crap it's off-topic.

>>70037782
>>70037670
>You are taking attention from muh seeeeex and toe sucking, nyooooo
Go to sleep. We'll be sleeping when you wake up and then you can seed the thread with inane bullshit.

>>70037923
>seeeeex and toe sucking
What?

>70037923
As apposed to Talking about Corpo contracts in a thread about an Indie? Sure Sister whatever you say

so confirmed doki can't collab with holo?

>>70037923
Are you a retard?

>70038090
Fuck off drama monger

>>70038090
She may be able to in time. But the drama needs to die down first. We will get there anon

>>70037923
False flag fag

I've got next bake dragoons

>>70038207
yeah i guess. im kinda worried bad actors are hurting her more than their desired targets.

>>70033184
Niji Rising Suns probably lookin for an excuse to paint gaijin in a bad light. I did hear once that Holo throws their worst-performing in the kaigai branches, which allegedly includes Omega. How much truer is it for KRSJ?

>>70038334
Thanks goon

>>70038398
Who cares

>>70038334
thank you thank you

>>70034263
That's why he, along with Leader, are my StarEN oshi. I also just like shorter, more traditionally male hairstyles more.

>>70037385
Agree with this. Even worse are those only in it for their selfish agenda.

>>70037670
Probably salty rejectees and/or their groomers

What bad Movie do you think she'll choose for the first watch along? Mostly so we can see her rip into it for being bad

Holobros used Selen to destroy Nijisanji. Now it's done nobody cares about her anymore. She had her month of fame. She will keep streaming like the mid talent she's, with her stable fanbase, like Mikeneko.
But deluded schizos will call me schizo, huh.

>>70039208
Ghosts of Mars!

>>70039208
I am in the mood for Super Troopers

>>70034047
Hell of a lot better than doing GFE for incels or half-heartedly streaming once a week like most of HoloEN these days

>>70039318
>But deluded schizos will call me schizo, huh.
Are you talking to the mirror right now crypto-Sister?

>>70039208
teenage mutant ninja turtles 3

>>70039614
...who asked? go back

>>70039318
Yes dude Ironmouse tier numbers as an indie are bad. LMAO

>>70039763
That's the one they get sent back in time right?
>>70039425
I saw the cast list and holy shit this looks terrible in a fun way
>>70039547
No clue what this is but screw it bad movie watch alongs are fun

>>70039208
Bionicle: Mask of Light

>>70040104
This is not a bad choice either

Anyone who missed Palworld becase they hate twitch day 1 is on the VOD channel now

>>70040104
kino

>>70027657
hopefully it go down even more

>>70010095
Just went browsing through their posts, I agree, this is some good shit. They have a nice style and taste in how to frame the visuals too.

I finally have context for that collab, that's cool

>>70041133
I agree, we would be able to have nice things. Our chuubas would feel more comfortable about streaming and having fun together. I see it as a net-gain for people who watch vtubers.

I understand that Corpo's will be protective of their IP, and people trying to piggyback on it.

so anybody is planning on counting how many slip ups they will make by calling doki selen?

>>70010095
Me on top right.

>>70041311
That is a good question, fuckups like that are par for the course

>>70041311
>>>> they
All those slips? ALL DINGO

>>70041311
I'd like to believe they've talked behind the scenes enough to not be that retarded

https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1761973960025997326

OH THAT'S WHO

>>70041513
>>70041513
>>70041513
Fresh bread is up leave BS behind

>>70041611
Thanks breadmaker.

>>70041462
Yeah, the boys are known for being professional enough to tug it in

>>70041611
Thank you GoonChad