[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers


View post   

File: 45 KB, 600x650, 1705354540642315.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
69925381 No.69925381 [Reply] [Original]

My belief is that Yuko has roleplayed a loli on stream for so long that she thinks she’s an actual child and treats everything like a game when vtubing is a business. This isn’t something where you can create a new save file and choose a different playstyle, you have to do the hard slow work of gently assuring your fans about changes. When Joji ditched filthy frank to do serious music, he had multiple videos over a period of weeks explaining and re-explaininghis reasons for changing his content and then he graduated the persona and got a new one. But Yuko is impatient.
She passed the Phase audition but couldn’t wait the 6 months in the basement and dipped for Idol who was faster. Yuko was supposed to be Phase’s original Panko before she quit and they got the Italian as the 2nd Panko who debued.
There is only so much Aviel can do. Yuko fumbling a bad announcement is much better than another month of hiatus and boobros shitting up the official discord and bothering other talents and Aviel himself. Mahbe if Yuko were a bit more humble, Aviel could have coached her and figured out a better way to approach the situation but Yuko is a womanchild and we all know how children are stubborn. It’s Yuko’s fault for being naive.

>> No.69925449

Isn't the best thing to just ignore them if you don't like them anymore. Just move on

>> No.69925701

>>69925381
Or she just took advantage of the feistybud market and stabbed them all in the back for good when she found out that even they were repulsive as they got.

>> No.69925731
File: 306 KB, 498x485, 1691504197124118.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
69925731

I LOVE YUKO YUREI

>> No.69925793

>>69925381
Who cares
I wish all the boobros a very happy go kill yourself
You deserve it for trusting a grifter that was anti GFE before joining Idol

>> No.69925805

>>69925381
i tried watching her vlog but i i couldn't finish it because i felt uncomfortable. it's like she was still rping being a loli irl. it felt really weird.

>> No.69925865

>>69925381
Ain't reading all that cope.
Real reason is her boyfriend found out what she does and he told her to stop doing gfe

>> No.69925869

>>69925381
She made a conscious decision to filter you out. Tough break.

>> No.69925885

>>69925793
based

>> No.69926047

>>69925865
>unicorns are this mindbroken they think their former oshi's boyfriend is based while being cucked
Quite a species.

>> No.69926153
File: 74 KB, 267x223, 1708104251600066.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
69926153

>>69925731
>Check his account
>Claims abuse for a year
Holy fuck gfefags need to be brought to a mental institute

>> No.69927519

>>69925381
How do we save Yuko?

>> No.69928854

>>69925381
Did Yuko even loved you guys to be this parasocial?

>> No.69929449

This is the most ESL thread I've ever seen.

>> No.69930127
File: 180 KB, 552x498, 1686783136482998.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
69930127

>>69925381
>debued

>> No.69930308

>>69927519
morally or financially?
because she did the first by deciding to no longer be a whore.
im not sure the second is possible. best you can hope for is long term she'll be able to pay her bills again.

>> No.69930635

>>69925381
Boo bros, if you really want to spite her, just tell her you don't recognize Israel as a legitimate state

>> No.69930788

>>69926153
For a moment I think that Yuko was being shitty by leading them on(and she kinda still is), but then I see people like him and it seems obvious why she didn’t wanna deal with them anymore.

>> No.69930921

She's an extremely fake person and her remaining fans or "new fans" are cucks

>> No.69931272

>>69928854
She went pretty hard on the GFE.

>> No.69931550

>>69925381
My theory is that she realized that she is only known as the watersports loli and decided that she needed to get her life in order.

>> No.69931609

>>69928854
Either it was all a grift or she got filtered by her audience, I could buy either explanation considering how autistic the drama in her community got.

>> No.69931676

>>69925381
If you kill yourself, all your problems will go away :D

>> No.69931693

the level of sperging something so inoffensive has caused is insane, we're going on like 2 weeks of no change in viewership numbers and you people still keep posting about it like this will literally end jidf when nobody actually cares outside of your thread

>> No.69931904

>>69931693
ive got no beef with her, but her income HAS tanked. just saying, saying it changed nothing is a bit wrong.
it'll probably go back up slowly though i'd imagine.

>> No.69932088

Meidos hurry up.

>> No.69932159

>>69931693
>2 weeks
The announcement was like 4 days ago. I think the bigger issue is her revenue isn’t what it used to be, i’m sure she was completely aware that this was a possibility and she can still build herself back up, but I wouldn’t say there’s been no impact. I prefer her ditching the gfe but building up an audience used to one thing and switching content afterwards can have consequences.

>> No.69932591

>>69925381
She won’t survive, her fans are turning on her.

>> No.69932953

>>69931904
>>69932159
She's gotten $231 in donos since her return after a 2 month break, I'm pretty sure like half of that came from before she actually dropped the bomb that she wanted her paypigs to fuck off during that announcement stream.

>> No.69933088

>>69931609
Given how her former audience is acting now, I lean towards she got filtered.

>> No.69933570

When people say it's just a "change of content" I disagree. A GFE ASMR which is clearly roleplay is content. Constantly telling your audience that you really really love them, that it's "100% genuine" and that they can actually fall in love with her, that's taking advantage of people. She says that it's a change of content to avoid her responsibility and make it seem like she's not a bad person.

>> No.69933809

>>69933088
What are you talking about? Are her comments full of antis? Are people shit talking her during all her streams?
I genuinely haven't seen a single thing outside of here after the first day. So how are they acting now?

>> No.69934704

>>69933809
>What are you talking about? Are her comments full of antis? Are people shit talking her during all her streams?
yes

>> No.69934885

>>69933570
Yeah, from what I saw of her content she absolutely tried to manipulate people who are vulnerable to this kind of thing. The people who got really caught up in this are mentally ill. It's similar to those old people who get taken for thousands of dollars by tech support scammers. The only difference is the people who were tricked here are societally acceptable to shit on, the same people laughing at them are the same people that jerk off to that nijifag spewing hate at every white person that isn't gay, trans, or disabled.

>> No.69934963

>>69934704
I don't see a single negative comment in her last vod, proof?

>> No.69935389

>>69934963
nta, but she started deleted comments

>> No.69935677

>>69926153
But that's an anti-gfe dramafag. They were harassing Gura a lot previously.

>> No.69937354

>>69925381
You guys need to move on.

>> No.69938649

Today I will remind them.
https://files.catbox.moe/n86t06.mp4
https://gofile.io/d/PDt5jp
https://files.catbox.moe/zlri7p.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/6hk67r.mp4

Traitorous harlot

>> No.69939155
File: 2.59 MB, 5213x1591, 1708436029499173.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
69939155

>> No.69939203

GFE is poison, and like other things people consume that are bad for them, you can show all the evidence in the world that it's bad and people will still consume it. GFEfags are no better than alcoholics, chain-smokers, gamblers, or junkies. Likewise, GFE chuubas are drug dealers and eventually the consequences catch up to them, but they made their money and so they want out of the game.

>> No.69942001

>>69939155
What is this supposed to mean.

>> No.69944676

>>69925381
I don’t get her appeal nor do I get the hate she gets.

>> No.69946476

>>69944676
She was our friend and girlfriend

>> No.69948935

>>69925381
Get raped

>> No.69949011

>>69925449
fpbp. If you don't like their content, move on and find someone you like instead.

>> No.69950087

>>69925381
She’s a brat who needs rape correction

>> No.69950887

>>69938649
Thats really bad

>> No.69952800

>>69925381
its like people watched a different stream than me. There was nothing in her announcement video "owning the chuds" or anything even close to that. She was her usual self. All she said was she's moving to a different style of content, not one bad word against boobros. The only ones up in arms are the *extreme* parasocial troglodytes that stalk her 24/7 on every social media that think they're actual friends with her, that think they know better than her about what she should do in her personal life. They feel like they "lost" because she chose real life over them, its retarded. Stop digging around for shit that's just going to make you sad and stick to watching streams, it never ends well with any chuuba when you get that invested like a maniac.

>> No.69952996

>>69925381
>my theory on yuko no longer baiting pedophiles is [pedophile fetish delusion]

>> No.69953313

>>69938649
I fail to see why any of that matters? She said she wants to stay with boobros forever. Check. Still there. She says she will never forget you. Check. Deleting some old posts and videos doesnt mean she forgot they happened. You people are so fucking weird.

>> No.69953338

>>69952800
>t.never watch a stream of her
She stabbed us in the back.

>> No.69953710

>>69925381
You could've just said she's a retard

>> No.69956153

>>69953710
I don't see how not wanting to make gfe content makes her a retard.

>> No.69956338

>>69953338
I've watched her since debut. How is that stabbing you in the back? Because she doesnt want you to jack off to her anymore? You're subhuman if thats all it takes for you to turn against her

>> No.69956890
File: 2.90 MB, 1488x2496, 113516767_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
69956890

>warns you not to trust loli vtubers and that they make fun of you behind your back
kneel

>> No.69957803

>>69956890
isnt she also a pisstuber?

>> No.69957895

>>69956338
>>69956338
I can't help but think a lot of the argumentative replies are baiting larpers. Most have probably moved on already or are in private discords getting put on an alphabet agency's list.

>> No.69957966

Yuko in holoen4 when?

>> No.69958527

>>69956890
She's also a massive schizo who's acting lovey-dovey with her chat one moment and then gets pissed off at everything they say the other, I wouldn't trust her either.
The thing with Yuko is that she looked honest about everything she did, she was extremely easy to trust while also having a lot in common with her fans, until she disappears for 2 months (1 of which was expected as she warned about it beforehand) and then comes back saying "sorry I'm burned out on that kind of content" and deletes everything. What else can anyone assume other than how all of that was an act? But of fucking course retarded twitter sisters keep thinking it's all an attack on GFE chuds and whatnot without trying to understand anything.

>> No.69958941

>>69933570 (me)
Just watched her last members stream, and it's just her literally lying and making excuses again to avoid responsibility. Always oversimplifying the situation, always someone else's fault. Either she's retarded or she's just a bad person.

>> No.69960360

>>69958941
not trying to defend her, honest.
but shes just retarded. everything ive seen from her, nothing gives off the impression she more than a few braincells knocking around upstairs.
i literally cannot imagine her being smart enough to have done more than just being a women going;
>this is fun!
>this isnt fun anymore...
>i wanna do THIS instead now, tee hee!

>> No.69960703

>>69958941
>Either she's retarded or she's just a bad person.
Why not both?

>> No.69961204

>>69958527
of course its an act. are you delusional? they're actresses, its a persona, the whole thing is an act. Thats what a vtuber is. A character. This isn't some girl you met and hit it off and now you are intimate besties.

>> No.69961292

>>69960360
that's exactly what it is. There's no deep meaning, there's no plot twist and backstabbing. She was having fun, then when it wasn't fun, meh lets do something new guys!

>> No.69962056

>>69961292
That's clearly not how it happened. She knew exactly what she was doing the whole time.

>> No.69962403

>>69960360
It really is just that simple. If she was a psychopathic manipulator who was in it purely for the money, she wouldn't have stopped. She stopped because it stopped being fun and started making her feel gross. I don't blame her, honestly. You can only put up with schizos talking about raping you or sending pictures of them busting a nut for so long before you start to hate them. At least she was up front about stopping the music and telling everyone to move on if they don't like it. Given how much she probably despised that part of her community, that was as close to thoughtful as they were going to get.
No hate by the way. I think GFE fans are the most passionate ones out there and a big part of why vtubing is so strangely compelling. Without them and the dynamics of streamers/other fans surrounding them, this hobby would be a lot more ordinary and boring. The big highs and the big lows come with the territory. The Boobros should be grateful that they get to feel something even if it's painful, unlike normies who sleepwalk from one consumer thing to another.

>> No.69962559

>>69962056
neither anon said she didn't know what she was doing.
only she simply is retarded over having some malicious master plan.
you're giving her too much credit assuming it was more than that, because that implies she is smarter than she is.
that, or you just think her fans were that much dumber than her.

>> No.69962574

>>69953313
Imagine your partner saying she will always be there for you and always love you and then suddenly one day she starts trying change the entire context of your relationship by trying to delete and deny that some memories you have, never actually happened.

That's really hurtful.

>> No.69962778

>>69962403
GFE fags are the entire reason this industry still stands as strong as it does. Say what you wish, but a vtuber with 200CCV easily out earns a regular flesh streamer with 400CCV purely because of oshi culture.

>> No.69963001

>>69962403
basically that yeah.
she defended her previous content in her members stream today (leaked in Idol General due to it having her talk about it all), even said she liked it, but simply changed what she wanted to do now.
she didn't link the two statements together directly, but mentioned earlier than that segment it was essentially a feedback loop. she liked the content, did it, and got positive feedback and comments and maros and such asking for more. so she did more... and the process repeated.
she said she let said loop get out of hand and past what she wanted, not that she hated that she had made it or done it in the first place.

she is, in fact, retarded, with no strong impulse control.

>> No.69964066

>>69925381
https://gofile.io/d/KEHQaV
https://gofile.io/d/GXSSSL
https://gofile.io/d/JWw1ec
https://gofile.io/d/o6dtgO

>> No.69964105

also, assuming you trust her (which you probably can on this, as she would probably get slapped hard for lying about this), in the member stream she confirmed she offered to leave to avoid backlash, but management backed her up and told her they would support her if she wished to change content.

>> No.69966091

>>69964105
The issue is not the change in content, it's how she did it. "Oh sorry for saying I love you I'm burned out on that so I'm going to delete everything" was the worst possible way to do it, it didn't just burn every bridge but also made it clear that all the time her fans loved spending with her was a lie, all that time, money and happy times weren't worth anything. What kind of fan sticks around after that?

>> No.69966369

>>69966091
part of my point was that there no way management didn't have a say in her deleting the content too.

>> No.69968771

>>69964066
What is this even supposed to mean?

>> No.69970142

Some of you people are either trolling or just stupid. How can anyone brainrotten enough to be on this board not comprehend why a gfe audience is upset that their chuuba has excised the gfe from her channel and identity? It doesn't even have to be a conspiracy, if she made the conscious decision to go neck deep into the lonely male cesspit, she should know that pulling out leaves you covered in muck. This thread alone has examples of her deliberately sowing the unhealthy attachment that people shit on unicorns for having, and now she's reaping it. It's not complicated, she chose to lean into gfe despite not meaning any of it, if deleting it all at the drop of a hat wasn't enough of an indication

>> No.69971783

>>69970142
Anon, you're supposed to save women, not condemn them.

>> No.69972251

>>69971783
Nah, they deserve condemnation.

>> No.69973962

>>69972251
They deserve to be saved.

>> No.69974134

>>69962574
....she's just a streamer, not your wife. it's like a character in a game saying they love you, you know it's not real even though you're happy in the moment

>> No.69974208

>>69925381
>Yuko was supposed to be Phase’s original Panko before she quit and they got the Italian as the 2nd Panko who debued.
Man, if that rrat is true that Phase got really lucky, the "current" Panko is way better. Yuko as Wemi might have worked, though.

>> No.69974352

>>69966091
all streamers say "I love you guys!" it's meant as a collective, not You. Getting rid of her cringe content so she doesn't look like some disgusting e-thot to new viewers is the best thing she's ever done. No one with any self respect would admit watching that shit. how are you going to recommend her to friends and family? you couldn't

>> No.69974360

>>69974134
It's not a character in a video game. There's a real living person behind the avatar who said she wants you to love her and this this was all real. Her feelings for you are real. It's not pre-recorded. It's not being displayed as fiction. It's a live reaction directed to you personally as her fan.

>> No.69974533
File: 320 KB, 1056x2976, wTxVDmQ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
69974533

>>69974360
Skill issue

>> No.69974758

>>69974533
I accept your concession.

>> No.69975386

>>69962403
>psychopathic manipulator who was in it purely for the money

It's called "a woman".

>> No.69975526

>>69962403
She stopped because she got caught being friends with people who actively harass and shit talk her fans and it was going to be too hard to damage control. So she used dropping GFE as a scapegoat for why those fans are mad to salvage whatever semblance of a career she had. But her coworkers know the truth so she's a pariah in the agency.

>> No.69975873

>>69974360
people like you are why she stopped. get some help man, that is some gigadelusion

>> No.69976066

>>69975873
A delusion that she directly and intentionally fostered nonstop until it stopped being convenient.

>> No.69976156

>>69976066
and? if someone tells you you're a crocodile every day until you believe it and start crawling around hissing at people, then one day she says "wtf are you acting like a crocodile for, retard?" youre still a fucking idiot for falling for it and doing something so dumb.

>> No.69976209

>>69974360
having to explain the basics of vtubing on /vt/ of all places is pretty grim

>> No.69976535

>>69975873
How is it delusional? A delusion indicates I'm making shit up that doesn't exist. Nothing being said is incorrect. Telling people that it is safe to fall in love with you, doing everything in your power to make them love you and then being surprised when people actually fall in love with you is retarded.

>> No.69977796

>>69976535
You didn't really fall in love with Yuko, right anon?

>> No.69979573

>>69953313
just stop. you are making it so fucking obvious. go back to deleting comments

>> No.69979841

>>69977796
I'm not in love with her but I am love in with someone else who does very similar things. If you want people to fall in love with you and they actually do, you need to have respect for their feelings and very gently let them go. Don't just try to annihilate every semblance of the relationship out of the blue. That is incredibly immature and hurtful to the people that did what you asked them to do.

>> No.69981540

>>69925381
I love Yuko no matter what.

>> No.69981659

>>69925381
I just hope that If she's planning to leave Idol, she will not do it in style of Riro. Burning bridges like that is never good, especially that Aviel made it clear that he's not going to fuck around and will be public but professional about it, making her further possible career just more difficult.

>> No.69981855 [SPOILER] 
File: 155 KB, 920x720, 20240225_080507.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
69981855

>>69932591
Where have I heard this before?

>> No.69983170

>>69981855
Pippa is different though

>> No.69983404

>>69974208
Is there even proof of Yuko passing the Phase audition? I’m fairly sure you cannot just casually drop a corpo post contract and join another, you get a label of risk with you at least.

Also yes, if true thank god we got the better version, Phase dodging bullets.

>> No.69983412

>>69981659
Can't she just go indie

>> No.69983504

>>69925381
All I know is I got gifted a Yuko membership sometime last year, and when I checked it out, it was weird as fuck. Seeing the interactions between her and her members was really unsettling. I didn't feel comfortable, so I didn't stick around.

In hindsight, I guess my senses caught wind of too many red flags and kept me from getting in any deeper.

>> No.69983517

>>69925381
I told you bro, i warned you about the jews, i told you bro.

>> No.69983937

>>69975526
Yup, the GFE shit was one thing but that’s the thing that makes anything she says impossible to believe. Like could you imagine having a friend and then finding them acting super chummy by someone who constantly fucks with you. You call them out on it and then they just cut all contact with you.

>> No.69983998

>>69983404
Grimmi did just that recently with that upcoming Niji VA-focused gen.

>> No.69984091

>>69983998
Grimmi was never going to join nijisanji that’s a rrat

>> No.69984199

>Corpo does a corpo move to save its image after the second (or third) most disastrous termination in the industry
>GFEfags couldn't see this coming

>> No.69985377

>>69984091
And so it shall remain. A disaster averted.

>> No.69985380

>>69983504
Is it really that bad or are you just exaggerating?

>> No.69986303

>>69985380
NTA but it was pretty crazy. She acted obsessed with her fans and would share so much about herself in members posts. When she was on her period, what she was doing in a given day, send love messages… it goes on. The ASMR shit was only a small portion of what she was doing. Not gonna lie when I first saw I thought wow this looks unhealthy but then I got curious and let my guard down. She blames her fans but she did this to herself.

>> No.69986632

>>69984091
It is a rrat, but it has not been disproven. Her denial isn't worth much since she would be under an NDA if it was true.

>> No.69987264

>>69985380
He's not exaggerating. Check the videos posted earlier in the thread here >>69938649
Some collected members posts were also shared in the post following that one. These intimate interactions were her daily routine with her audience for over a year.

>> No.69988040
File: 32 KB, 227x222, 1681269818759592-8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
69988040

>>69984091
On the one side, Grimmi specifically denied that it was Nij and even clearly said she never even considered them. On the other, FallenShadow tweeted in response to her un-graduation that she was glad and Grimmi deserved better than what she alluded to as an unnamed company. This was at the height of the NijiEN controversy so that's what I thought it was a clear reference to.
However - and this is where it gets a bit schizo on my part - I counted the number of dashes in FallenShadow's tweet where she censored the name. It's eight, which is one letter short for Nijisanji and two too many for NijiEN. However, it's exactly the number of character needed for Hololive.
Does FallenShadow have a friend who reincarnated in Hololive? Yes.
Did FallenShadow also tweet yesterday about being sad that Soya was going to graduate and possibly reincarnate into a corpo, causing her to feel sad about - to paraphrase her - yet another friend who will be growing distant after joining a corpo?
Could FallenShadow be referring to her Hololive friend as that prior experience? Possibly, I don't know enough about their past and present rapport to say for sure.
Could FallenShadow have been referring to Hololive for the Grimmi tweet? Possibly but I was always under the impression she had a positive assessment of Hololive, so I found it hard to believe she would've been celebrating Grimmi not going to Holo rather than Niji.
Where am I going with this, other than suggesting that FallenShadow think Grimmi's un-graduation had to do with Niji? Nothing but I do know in the past 36 hours, I've only slept for 2.

>> No.69988245

>>69988040
What if she just hit --------- a bunch of times with no regard for the number of characters in the name of the corpo??

>> No.69988426
File: 79 KB, 288x288, 1681269818759592-4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
69988426

>>69988245

>> No.69988902

>>69970142
femcels are retarded what's new

>> No.69988993

>>69925793
>anti-gfe asian female is also an attention seeking coombaiter that does gfe anyway
You try making sense of this.inb4
>women

>> No.69989136

>>69988426
foreigneru-san pureasu...

>> No.69989545

>>69985380
I was willing to put up with all the obviously "love you actually fr" bs(i was never a fandead but i saw the patterns and knew yuko was becoming a walking red flag). When she started asking about members' masturbating to her, with boobros all too eager to share that info in the comments and maros i knew jumping ship was way overdue

>> No.69989589

>>69925381
Stopped caring. She’s not getting any money from me.

>> No.69989721

>>69974352
Do all streamers say "I love you" and constantly lovebomb them at every opportunity, drawing them together, tweeting and memberposting about how much they love them and miss them when they aren't streaming, doing intimate streams where they even share all kinds of unnecessary information, showering them with kisses and telling them they're masturbating to them?
Don't give opinions about things you don't fully understand, bitch. Get the fuck out.

>> No.69990338
File: 1.07 MB, 1299x1080, 1000003510.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
69990338

>>69926153
>shitting on GFE using a GFE vtuber

>> No.69992367

>>69989721
cry more that even your imaginary friend doesn't want you, I'm going to keep enjoying funny streams

>> No.69992703

>>69983404
>I’m fairly sure you cannot just casually drop a corpo post contract and join another
Aviel bought her contract out
and like >>69983998 said
Grimmi and the Niji boy who leaked his own gen that sisters called "AI generated" both dipped after passing auditions and entering into the Niji work server. It's more than possible. You'd be surprised how often this happens in industry

>> No.69992907

Is it true that she did countdowns? Post proof

>> No.69992941

>>69992367
Please do, she's going to need as much support as she can from her (potential) new fanbase in order to not have a meltdown and spiral into regret for losing the career she had made for herself.
Despite all I've said I still value that time I spent watching her, as fake as it might have been, so I still want her to have success with her new direction. Not that I'm going to watch it though.

>> No.69993461

>>69974208
Holo gives 3D by seniority.
Niji has sub milestone rewards that you can bypass with the clique.
Other corpos like Kawaii and Akioair have a Good Girl Points system or GGP that they can use to get perks.
Phase has Nepo Tickets.
The senior members of Phase all used their Nepo Tickets on Gen 2.
>Lia used hers on Rie
>Uruka got Airi
>and Pippa got Yuko
Tenma was on her second strike and was about to get her third. Three strikes and you're out (suspended). In order to avoid that, Tenma traded away her nepotickets to wipe her slate clean so she could keep streaming because she is a streamoholic.
The Gen 0 JPs kept their Nepotickets in reserve for JP Gen 1 and Lumi wasn't part of the company yet.
Pippa gave a lot of hints that Yuko's PL had her blessing and was going to be her nepohire but when Gen2 debuted, Yuko wasn't there. She had a falling out and jumped ship to idol.
This is why Phase Gen2, was delayed. They had to find another girl to replace Yuko.

>> No.69993551
File: 806 KB, 640x640, 1692837994404404.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
69993551

actually yuko was replaced by beeko

>> No.69993563

>>69992941
I really don't understand that though. you had fun, she had fun. The time you spent together still happened. So what if all the old content is gone. If you get a new phone and lose all your lovey dovey texts a girl sent you, it doesn't mean it never happened even though you broke up. Sure it hurts but she's not dead, she's still right there doing the same wacky shit as always. Was the coomer stuff the only thing you liked, did you never enjoy her actual content in the first place? For me it was just a little bonus, not the main event. It's a RP. None of them love each and every fan personally, no matter what they say, obviously.

>> No.69993764

>>69993563
The issue is not that she deleted everything, it's that she implied everything was completely fake.
>dyrbi.webm
Part of what got so many people hooked on her was how she felt honest about everything she did. "Honesty is policy", as she used to say all the time. If you build a bridge on trust and then burn it, it can never be restored.

>> No.69994164

>>69993764
what was your endgame though? she's just a streamer telling you what you want to hear, that's their job. Eventually she was going to graduate, or get married, etc. She's was never going to stay your cutesy lil anime ghost forever. The end was always going to make you feel betrayed no matter what. Surely you realize that, right? I know it sucks, I've been there, you just can't give your heart to someone that will 100% break it in the end, there was no other outcome even in a best case scenario.

>> No.69994534

>>69994164
What's the end goal of anything? Even in real life you can find the love of your life who loves everything you do and then one day a drunk driver takes her away from you. Are you going to anti her for leaving you too?
I'm very sure that you're capable of understanding the difference between parting ways on good terms and straight up saying that nothing ever mattered because it was all fake. Keeping things as they are until she graduates in a few years, or even toning it down slowly would have been a much better way to go about it.

>> No.69994612

>>69993764
>it's that she implied everything was completely fake
She implied the opposite, poorfag.

>> No.69994784
File: 8 KB, 263x62, ok.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
69994784

>>69994612
Thanks for keeping her fed, I hope she doesn't disappoint you as well.

>> No.69994841

>>69938649
This makes me want to throw up listening to

>> No.69995198

>>69994784
I'm disappointed. I'm upset at her actions. But I still enjoy her streams.

>> No.69995710

>>69974352
>how are you going to recommend her to friends
Do you have no coomer friends or are they all gay?

>> No.69995927

>>69993461
Still looking for any evidence of this. Feels this thread is starting to shift from Yuko to Phase to shit on them unless you bring the receipts.

>> No.69997230

>>69995710
No

>> No.69997864

>>69995710
I hate to break it to you anon, but all of us /here/ are fucking insane, no normal person watches anime coomer asmr. I don't know a single person I could tell to watch Yuko that wouldn't call the cops on me afterwards. That is not the brand image someone wants if they want to grow and become more popular. I could tell them to watch Gura and they'd lol and think she was funny.

>> No.69997956

>>69997864
Don't forget to tell them about that one time Gura did a suggestive blowjob ASMR.

>> No.69998215

>>69994841
Same. I feel sorry for the poor sods that she disarmed and lured in. Its clear she was the foremost driver of this, and that makes the heel turn all the more cruel.

>> No.69998441

>>69997956
get your head out of the gutter, that's clearly not what it was. You've been brainrotted by degeneracy. And 99% of what little asmr she does is just bratty soft talking

>> No.69998572

>>69998215
how can you feel sorry for retards that actually fall in love with chuuba roleplay? sapling behavior

>> No.69998826

>>69993461
Lumi has said the strikes at least, really do exist.

>> No.69998838

Why does this thread feel so feminine.

>> No.69998910

>>69998572
You didn't watch the clips or you are trolling. She actively argued against setting up parasocial barriers, and put effort into disarming people who said they loved her as a friend. That's on her, and if you don't think so you are retarded.

>> No.69999125

>>69925381
>>69925701
>vtuber working for Israeli corporation stabs people in the back
What a surprise.

>> No.69999378

>>69999125
Any girl on this cursed company who did something similar without doing a 180?

>> No.69999406

>>69998441
Or so you say, but if the average person who would call the cops on you for Yuko's deleted content heard those sucking noises, that's not what they would think.

>> No.69999734

>>69997864
>>69999406
What's illegal about a fully grown adult woman licking a microphone?

>> No.69999871

>>69999734
nta, remember they care more about the model of the chuuba than what she actually is so in normiegroid terms ´´it's a literal child´´

>> No.69999923 [DELETED] 
File: 146 KB, 431x696, hebrew.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
69999923

>>69999378
>without doing a 180?
You are funny guy.

>> No.69999954

>>69998910
>visit a hooker every week
"I love you baby, no for real, I love you so much unlike any other! Please be mine forever! That'll be $100, see you next week"
>Leave, watch the next guy file into the room to plow her
Are you really that stupid and gullible? You deserve it then.

>> No.70000209

>>69974533
Is there more pictures like this but for other types of programming.

>> No.70000294

>>69999923
well the only thing keeping me watching barely some streams are the spicy Fuyo asmr streams, once those are out i couldn't give a fuck about this company anymore (still not donating to jews ever)

>> No.70000447

>>70000294
See thats what I dont like about Fuyo. I just want her to do spooky game marathons and play stupid funny games. She's leaning way too much into the coomer shit too, I dont want her to end up like Riro and Yuko, she's such a sweetheart. But retarded fucking lucky charms keep pestering her for it 24/7, and it gets more views, so thats all she does anymore

>> No.70000633

>>69925793
hilariously she said in her last member stream that she LIKED doing GFE and would still have been doing it if it wasn't for the change in direction
lying bitch is lying

>> No.70000761

>>70000447
I understand what you mean but don't agree tho, i never cared for meme content, i like funny moments but it's not my cup of tea when they try to seek it constantly nonstop.

>> No.70001019

>>70000633
+ fanservice is one of my favorite things when watching vtubers,

>> No.70001203

>>70000761
I miss her long playthrough stuff like Blasphemous or Little Goody Two Shoes. Or just her drawing streams, or animation streams, or the la creatividad stuff, she's so insanely talented. It just seems like such a waste that someone like her has to be reduced to hurr durr coomer asmr, because thats what the fans want and what makes the bucks.

>> No.70002903

>>70001203
sorry if it's that way to you, not my case but still the opposite might happen to me one day where affectionate chuuba turns cold shoulder on the fans from one day to another like the blue ghost whore (thankful i didn't fall for that honey pot).

>> No.70003022

>>70002903
I'm sure its stressful for them, trying to do what they want but fans demanding other stuff. A fine line to walk to keep everyone happy

>> No.70003219

>>70003022
ok white knight, never gonna defend any chuuba who does a 180 on fans after taking lots of money from that content.

>> No.70003367

>>70003219
reading comprehension, faggot? I'm not even talking about Yuko here

>> No.70003657

>>69933570
>that it's "100% genuine" and that they can actually fall in love with her
>An idiot falls in love with the virtual idol on the screen
>A retard cannot hide their powerlevel and goes full apeshit when the kayfabe comes off

>> No.70004058

>>70003367
and i'm talking in general too, i don't like traitors simple aseven if i'm not a fan i find it disgusting.

>> No.70005239

>>70003367
Who are you talking then?

>> No.70005479

>>70005239
nta, white knights as usual always prepared to defend chuubas who get found out being double faced.
https://youtu.be/ElXi7yDHyWo?si=hYjENq7f0gFg2OL4

>> No.70006708

Why did Yuko stab Pippa in the back.

>> No.70006914

>>70006708
grifters gonna grift.

>> No.70006932

>>70006708
hell are you on about?

>> No.70007304

>>69926153
all these posts yours?
>>70007168
>>70007233

>> No.70007652

>>70007304
holy fucking shit, this is the most mind broken ive ever seen anyone

>> No.70007757

Just post the asmr files so i can fap to this washed up slut later

>> No.70008964

>>70007757
Yuko is not a slut, she's pure and virginal.

>> No.70009144

>>69999954
Retardchama, apparently you can't fucking read. I never watched this whore, and I will continue never watching this whore. I just think its fucked up that she would manipulate people like that after they specifically questioned her about it, and I think its even more fucked up that people white knight her and excuse such behavior.

>> No.70009380

>>70007304
jesus christ dude
does /vt/ even have jannies?

>> No.70009674

>>70005239
if you would follow the thread replies, you'd see I was discussing Fuyo

>> No.70009992 [DELETED] 
File: 1.69 MB, 1840x1608, 1707591006226449.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
70009992

>>69933570
GFE niggers truly believe that a woman no longer doing cringey girlfriend roleplays makes her a bad person.

>> No.70010497

>>69990338
>GFE

nope, lesbian incest fantasy where you have a faint chance of being invited to the threesome they're not having if you simp hard enough and listen to their retarded hobbies

>> No.70012594

>>70008964
How much is she paying you.

>> No.70012687

>>70007304
Absolutely astronomical levels of rent-free

>> No.70013871

>>69925381
I hate GFE and think that her changing course is a good thing, but god her announcement stream was embarrassingly bad. She just kept on stalling and beating around the bush, terrified of saying the wrong thing and constantly spilling spaghetti, even though anything she would have said about it would invoke backlash anyway, might as well just rip off the bandaid and get it over with. It was so awkward to watch.

>> No.70015196

>>70013871
That’s because she didn’t want to stop doing GFE.

>> No.70015797

>>69925793
you know coni is the same right?

>> No.70016354

>>70015797
coni isnt as hardcore into it though, aswell as said outright at the beginning she'll do just about anything to entertain, so the context is different.

>> No.70017287

>>70010497
>nope
Yup. They called their fans their "boyfriends" and confessed their love already.

>> No.70020768

>>69925381
I still live yuko no matter what. She could be abusive towards me and i will still defend her.

>> No.70022030

>>70015196
sauce?

>>70017287
I'd believe it, sauce?

>> No.70025803

Get over it and then get some sweet good GFE again, you'll love her
https://www.youtube.com/@MiunaUsako

>> No.70026709

>>70025803
It occurs to me that in these threads, which are just pure bait and shitpost central, anyone could start recommending small streamers to the broken Yuko refugees. However, there's no way to vet every one of these, so they could all be complete landmines intended to fuck with these already devastated cucks in the worst way possible.

>> No.70026947

>>70022030
>I'd believe it, sauce?
Membership streams and voice packs(they specifically said that the VPs were written by them and "contain all of their actual feelings")

>> No.70028185

>>70026947
thanks

>> No.70028364

>>69925381
>she thinks she’s an actual child
women might as well be children given their behavior and the way we treat them

>> No.70028561

>>70007304
Holyyyyy, this fucking dude needs some help.

>> No.70028570

>>69925381
I don't know the drama, it would be nice if you told me

i don't even watch idol either

i just think this girl, the design, is cute

>> No.70028813

>>70025803
Miunny is cute but I'm never allowing myself to feel too strongly for a vtuber again. "GFE" is dead to me.

>> No.70028909

>>70025803
thanks for letting me know to avoid her anon!

>> No.70029070

>>70028561
gimme context anon, posts are turbo nuked

>>70028570
Hardcore GFE Vtuber removed all her coombait and GFE content in one fell swoop after deciding that she didn't want to do the parasocial gimmick anymore. this was after a long track record of explicitly stating that parasocial relationships aren't bad and relying on them for cash

>> No.70029220

>>70029070
It's about 200 posts of somebody seething about a thread celebrity that does even use the thread anymore, and that is just 1 thread of posts, he's been seething about this dude for months

>> No.70029325

>>69988993
Simple answer
>Money

Long winded answer
>Average girl with low self esteem gets the same attention an A list actress would get and noticing the difference in money makes her reciprocate. Confidence goes up and starts to realize, I mean actually realize, she is a human female so by nature even men in her area will want her.

Unless you plan on grooming them and trying to beat others to the punch gfe from a girl with low self esteem is a bad idea. You need a girl that understands her place or enough anxiety that just speaking to real people takes weeks of planning

>> No.70029486

>>70026709
it's like hearing the local pub closed suddenly and I'm going around here in a cart selling moonshine, these GFE alcholics will at least take a sip and oooh brother do they like their GFE...but will that make them blind? meeeh well that's for them to find out

>> No.70029561

>>70028813
>>70028909
she's very sincere and honest

>> No.70029790
File: 155 KB, 1546x739, 1708911525593986.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
70029790

>>70029561
And so was Yuko, until she wasn't.
Her case is a reminder to never go 100% trust. Always leave some room for you to back out in case things start looking shady.

>> No.70031941

>>69989545
what's wrong with jerkin it to a chuuba?

>> No.70032676

>>70005479
>>70004058
are you guys retarded?

>> No.70032893

Sensible catalog thread? No fucking way

>> No.70032986

>>70028813
Good. You're better off.

>> No.70033086

>>70020768
based true boobro. Same here.

>> No.70033285

>>70029325
I hate when 8 or 9's with zero self esteem finally realize they're fucking hot then find someone better to hang out with. story as old as time.

>> No.70033411

Waiting for the "Hello stupid retarded whore bitch cunt retard".

>> No.70033596
File: 198 KB, 512x512, 1703789029455874.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
70033596

>>70033411
hello stupid retarded whore bitch cunt retard

>> No.70034041

>>70029790
anons trust way too much in general.
the amount of times ive seen anons blow up at non GFE chuubas for things not even close to half as much as what Yuko pulled is silly.
usually way fewer anons mind, but the fact there still some that over invested is still dumb.

>> No.70034840

>>69964066
https://gofile.io/d/uKN77k

>> No.70036467

>>70034840
Not sure if it’s already in there, but there was a maro reading stream where she enables this behavior further while addressing the last maro. Wondering if anyone can find it.

>> No.70040375

>>70034840
Nice find.

>> No.70042450

>>69925381
She’s a betraying whore

>> No.70044918

>>70032893
/vt/ is waking up

>> No.70045510

>>70006708
how?

>> No.70045583

>>70026947
The cuckp7 gofile. Mococo has a really nice ass.

>> No.70047704

>>70044918
Waking up to what?

>> No.70050335

>>70047704
To the lies.

>> No.70050704

>>69962403
>You can only put up with schizos talking about raping you or sending pictures of them busting a nut for so long before you start to hate them
She legitimately encouraged this in her members posting.
>tee hee I'm all pent uppies!! if you are too you can relieve yourself
I'm paraphrasing

>> No.70051133

I'm happy that boobros got fucked over. Easily the worst posters on /jidf/

>> No.70051287

>>69962403
Explain away the time where she spent like 20 minutes talking about how she masturbates, is afraid to "stick anything in the monster(her childish euphemism for her vagina)" and how she has a "small bean" and has never orgasmed. These are totally things someone who isn't trying to be hyper personal does.

>> No.70053110

>>70051287
She changed

>> No.70053943

>>70053110
For the worst

>> No.70055818

>>70053943
for the better

>> No.70056942

>>70012594
She's not paying me anything, Yuko just doesn't want to do gfe since its morally wrong.

>> No.70058066

>>70056942
it wasn't morally wrong when she was doing it and taking people's money.

is it morally wrong to take payment for a service that she promised and not going through with it?

is it morally wrong to purposefully play around with people's feelings?

she knew and knows exactly what she's doing and she's a horrible person. plain and simple. stop trying to defend her actions. she's already done it, people are upset, there is no way you can make the people who were hurt by her get over it.

>> No.70058144

>>70056942
>Doesn’t want to do anymore.

If she never did that shit fine, no one would be criticizing her. But doing it for months and then saying “I’m bored, let’s no do that cuz bad” is just proving you cannot be trusted.

As far as we know, she could change idea tomorrow with this consistency.

>> No.70059131

>>70058066
>>70058144
She didn't know any better, but now she does.

>> No.70061231

>>69925381
How much of this is true and false?

>> No.70062762

>>70061231
All of it is true.

>> No.70063745 [DELETED] 
File: 132 KB, 273x300, Juncker_.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
70063745

Juncker_ is back and is playing tarkov and celebrating his new discord server.
https://www.twitch.tv/juncker_

>> No.70063785

>>70062762
Still no receipts. It's just a rrat for now.

>> No.70065558

>>70063785
You know in your heart it’s true

>> No.70067641

I only side with Yuko to fuck over the gfe crowd and unicorn crowd.

>> No.70067709

>>70067641
#cut4hex

>> No.70067726

>>70065558
I mean, 90% of it is pretty much confirmed but the whole "Yuko - Panko" sounds very rrat unless there is proof he was gonna join Phase.

Maybe is just me not wanting to associate the two.

>> No.70068942

https://gofile.io/d/uKN77k

once a slut always a slut

>> No.70072758

>>69925731
she doesn't love you

>> No.70072955

>>70072758
It's a seethe post about his favorite boogyman he can't stop posting about
Basically he stole a former ritual post and uses it when he thinks about sucking the dudes cock

>> No.70073062

>>69925381
>Makes a catalog thread about Yuko
>Mentions Phase out of nowhere
You can't make this shit up, leave us alone you obsessed shit stirrers dramafags

>> No.70074529

>>69939203
True.
GFE (and BFE) is bad but pathetic and emotionally vulnerable people still want it. People that engage it know they are taking advantage of these types for money and success. I have made the same addict she drug dealer metaphor, and have more vitriol for the conartists that abuse the vulnerable than those who seek it.
As for Yuko, it is a rather bad case since people knew her history here on 4chan from the beginning and were calling out the fakeness of her grift from the start of her Career as Yuko but none are so blind as those that choose not to see. Lots of “I told you so”s now.

>> No.70076521

>>69938649
Damn

>> No.70076529

>>69925381
ok

>> No.70077355

>>70074529
i will say in general (not in yukos case), i do actually think the parasocial GFE feelings can legitimately go both ways, not that its always (only) a manipulations of money and success. kinda an odd ball reason, but if you look at statistics, and the amount of vtubers who talk about it, both men and women typically around the age who do these jobs, are basically social neets. lonely and without friends or significant others way more than is the norm.
its in part why its such a problem in the first place. that said, even if it starts or is partially genuine, it probably is extremely easy to start exacerbating things once you realize what you were partially doing naturally is getting you success, to the point you're no longer doing it for that natural reason anymore.
its a red flag you shouldn't engage in either way though, so, maybe moot point.

>> No.70077665

>>69956890
Comments like that ate 100% projection, like when rushia warned about other people having boyfriends while being engaged.

>> No.70077812

>>69958527
>>69956890
She's also a known backstabber. Of course you shouldn't trust any of the vdere chuubas.

>>
Name
E-mail
Subject
Comment
Action