/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

gura's decline is squarely her own fault but I doubt she gives a shit anymore. shuba has essentially never stopped streaming for years and years and so it's merited that she's grinded her way up in relevance steadily vs gura starting basically maxed out and neglecting her potential.

i genuinely believe its nothing to do with gura

its that there simply isnt as much demand for 3D concerts among the EN fanbase

>>69982127
Yeah it should be bots, I don't know how Subaru got more than the big seven of Hololive.

Cumsharts don't care about 3D

really surprises me how new some anons here are.
also check out chuubas like suisei, pekora, marine or miko's lives while you're at it, they also get 100k on theirs.

>>69982127
Most HoloEN subscribers are transients that followed for the fad then dipped. Maybe they'll follow when a new gen drops but they're still nowhere near as dedicated as JP or ID fans

>>69982127
>129.8k
Stop inflating her numbers

>>69982127
>Holo vs Holo
Nijinig, Vshokek, Phascuck detected

>>69982350
On nyo
nijidiscord raid again
Try better sister

>>69982127
>underestimating the quack

>>69982127
it's called "staying relevant"

reminding viewers about your existence on regular basis, be it in form of streaming, does magic to viewership numbers

>>69982502
Uhhhhhhhhh, staying relevant? Are you crazy?

>>69982127
Most jps always gets these numbers, specially the big ones like miko, marine, peko, etc.

And also, you could compare their vod likes while you're at it, you'll be surprised.

>>69982127
>niji 3views are being salty again

>>69982318
what are the big seven. never heard of it. subaru is definitely one of the aces in jp. subaru, miko, and pekora are the current top 3 "regular streamers" in jp. marine doesnt stream as much as she used to, and suisei doesnt get so many CCVs

>>69982127
What kind of newfag makes these posts?
Japanese viewers have always tuned in for event streams far more than western ones.

>>69982127
>Last stream 30 days ago
>Last solo stream 58 days ago

>>69982738
>hurrdurr gura isn't popular in JP

what else you got in that cope bag ?

>>69982604
No offense, but i had at a certain point of time 70 viewers by just sharing my screen.
How unentertaining do you have to be as a corpo vtuber to only get 170viewers?

I don't really pay that much attention to Subaru, but aren't her 3d lives basically a goldmine for gap moe cuteness each time she does them? I feel like her 4th one especially got a lot of attention, but I can't remember why specifically.

>>69982127
>ENshart in top 3
Wtf?

>>69982127
>Aren't those bots, even Gura can't reach 100k with her lives so how could someone way less popular get so much?
>wtf my mascot character doesnt get views on her big streams
Yeah because she is a fucking mascot, she doesnt want to be a singer, she doesnt want to be a streamer, she just wants to be the pikachu of hololive

>>69982604
It's not a fair comparison you should compare birthday streams to birthday streams. Oh wait.

>>69982127
Everyone loves duck.

>>69982980
Holy crap this bitch has dropped off hard lol

>>69982604
Jesus. Why do they stay? You can do this as an indie

>>69982880
>outfit reveal

>>69982127
Having other HoloJP members funnel views helps.

>>69983763
Fun fact, Kunai in that picture had like 200k subs before she joined niji

OP is retarded

>>69982127
>3d live vs kanaeuru pre recorded slop
gee anon i wonder why

>>69982127
Gura is EOP. That alone debuffs her

>>69982127
>way less popular get so much?
>Shuba
>less popular than Gura
Gura's dead (read: killed Gura herself) subs don't accurately reflect her popularity. If she streamed more often, maybe, but not as it stands.

>>69982434
NTA, but the other dude compared showcases and you are comparing a live to a showcase.

>>69984265
she abandoned her YT channel long before joining niji
she had a sex model as indie on twitch

>>69982127
>Subaru
>way less popular
Hahahahaha

>>69982127
You enfags always following fads and dramas, not content.

>>69985025
go whine and cry about that to your discord

>>69982127
100k+ is pretty normal for most of the Holo JP 3D lives.

>>69982854
half the reason is because he's playing league of legends

>>69982127
>Wonder why OP is making retarded holo vs holo bait
>nijiJP lost
Oh

>>69982434
>not even 100k for a 3d live
>supposedly the biggest hololive chuuba
roru
rumao even

>>69989538
Gura is just a mascot character for Cover corp now so its gucci

why does this board fixate so much on sub count as the be-all end-all metric for popularity? do you fucking retards actually think subaru isn't one of the most popular holos?

>>69982923
me on the left

Subaru might actually be more popular than gura at this point. She's huge in JP and most of gura's numbers these days are only high because of the Ayame effect.

What's the point of seething about gura in a random vt thread?
Honestly don't get it, it's not people are going to stop watching her because of that. Are you just seething she'll always be more popular than you/your oshi no matter how little she works for it and how hard you/your oshi does?
People still aren't going to stop watching Gura and start watching you/your oshi because of that though so I still don't get it, it's a literal waste of time

OP should learn the concept of hakooshi.
It explains OP's question very well.

>>69982127
Subaru is generally VERY popular amongst Hololive fans, and EU people can watch something that fits into their timezone. Gura streams at 4am and only Ameritards can watch that.

>>69989858
Anon half the ppl just think big sub count = popular = they’re popular/knowledgeable/not just a bandwagoner for being a “fan”.

>>69985473
Neat, I hope she goes back to it when she's out of her shitty niji contract

>>69982502
>aqua
You did it on purpose, right?

streamers viewbotting?
SHOCKING!

>>69982127
Cuz she is frigging cute in 3D, but in 2d she does not just cut it

DUCK_ ..

>>69982127
japs have a much higher viewer to subscriber ratio than EN. its just a cultural thing that that is what jap viewers do. pretty sure the average EN viewer just straight up doesn't give a shit about concerts or covers, especially when they are all in japanese. because there is no idol culture here in the same way as in japan. the EN girls clearly care way more about their music and concerts than EN viewers do
>>69982224
Gura's decline isn't just her fault. all of EN declined once biden was elected and dems could stop pretending covid existed. though Gura has done a bunch to lower her views, probably intentionally since she seems way more comfortable with the smaller members' streams than with public ones

jpshart still assblasted rumao

I accidentally slept through it and now I want to die for missing my chance to contribute to her ccv

>>69989858
Hololive literally did billboard advertisements with subscriber numbers so it's not only /vt/ that likes big numbers.

>>69995846
pics?

>>69995800
>I make up stories to make me feel good in my own world
Pathetic

>>69982127
Bigger holos always had around that range

>>69982127
JP = terminally online mobile phone addicts
EN = normal people from different timezones watching streams through their PCs

>>69995800
I don't sub to any holos because vtuber content patterns make the subscriber feed unusable. Youtube algorithm understands the holobox really well so it feeds me everything I want anyway.

I wish EN gave more of a shit about music. HoloEN is missing a lot of what makes Hololive Hololive. I don't want just generic streamers playing games, I want idols. It's really encouraging that the girls are starting to move to Japan though, seems like a trend in the right direction. The ones over there are much more committed

>>69982127
In what world is Gura more popular than Subaru?

>>69995800
holy schizophrenia

>>69995800
The real reason is because more EN viewers watch vods and more JP viewers watch live.

>>69997393

>>69999470
Subaru streams a lot more, so her fans get to be selective with her streams.

>>69999682
You're the first person I've seen point out this obvious fact.

>>69999470
I find these numbers impossible to believe anymore
There is no chance there are 800k chumbuds willing to watch poppy playtime left

>>69982127
because normally a vtuber's viewers is split between vods, livestreams and some don't even bother showing up at all for most streams. when they're doing a big event though, a significantly larger fraction of her viewerbase will tune in since it's a special occasion, as well as other people tuning in that normally wouldn't. it really isn't that weird at all. subaru has 1.62m subs lol

>>70003434
VOD views don't work like that. I'm not entirely sure either, but it should be something like 1 view = 10 mins of video watched by a single IP.

>>69982127
Gura can't compete with the sheer power of tomboys

>>69999470
And look where 2 weeks ago starts for both.

>>69982127
1st army retard

>>69982127
Japanese talents have more dedicated (Japanese) viewers. How are you going to be a numbernigger without understanding the scene?

Gura's Sushiro collab is mocking all the 1st army whores rn. In this specific case Cover gets more bang for their bucks
>>69999470
based. last samurais on suicide watch
>>69996355
holy based

>>69982127
Japanese otaku are really dedicated to their oshis, surprise surprise.

>>69982127
>even Gura
>EN
LOL, is this bait?

>>70009655
shit bait, newfag

>>69995800
>gura's decline is biden's fault
this is the kind of schizo that we come to 4chan for.

>>69982604
>aster getting mogged by kunai
whew

>>70010741
*Sigh*

>>70010642
>holy comprehension batman
hes just saying that with covid ending (under biden suddenly things became more manageable less OMG WERE ALL DYING AND ITS TRUMPS FAULT in the media), the vtuber boom ended and hurt EN in the process, just like it did many other internet and gaming companies.

>>69982127
>bring up a stream
>gura seethe out of nowhere
Do you retards have nothing else to bait with

>>69982127
Vtubers are considered normal streamers in Japan. Pekora is basically xqc.
If you watch Vtubers in the west, you'll be seen as a pedo by normal people.
So there is no stigma in Japan. This is why EN will always be behind.

>>69982224
>anymore
nigga she never gave a shit from the beginning, That's part of what made her meteoric rise so awkward for everyone around her. JP made a race out of one million and then put the silent kibosh on when Gura shot by everyone without even trying

>>69982604
these numbers are so fucking bad lmaooo

>>69982127
Well I've never seen one of Gura's lives, but I tuned in to see the duck dancing. Guess there's a lot of people like me.

>>69982127

>>69982434
Being "the most popular vtuber" and barely eeking out a win against a low 4 view ID isn't the win you think it is.

>>70016094
It's a win alright, against chuubas that don't even have 3D concerts yet lol

>>70016094
you know that Moona got all the support from Pekora right?

>>69989538
EOPs don’t like idol stuff

>>70011307
That and hololive is completely mainstream pop culture in Japan at this point

>>69982127
JOPs are selfish and refuse to watch english talent.

>>70017346
EOPs are selfish and refuse to watch japanese talent.

>>70010490
There's no such thing as "space" in Japan, Rumao. All those unnatural numbers? come from mobile phone otakus, disgusting!