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Do you think Niji EN will change for the better?
Or will their talents continue to make nonsensical PR choices?
I like to believe in happy endings, but its all so tiring right now.

>> No.69918062

>>69917914
The nonsense will continue

>> No.69918319

>>69917914
Sometimes you see posts like this and it grounds you in reality. Not everyone is here to shitpost and some people are simply fed up.

>> No.69918526

You have no fucking clue what kind of person Riku is if you think they're even remotely capable of changing, kek.

>> No.69918677

>>69918319
That was me. I got really fed up and madge with my posts. At this point, I can see a hugbox that doesn't accept legitimate criticism and self-reflection. They smell their own farts really hard it seems

>> No.69918698

>>69918526
Niji EN are so disconnected from Riku its not even funny. Remember, Niji EN was barely noticed by Riku until last year

>> No.69918830

>>69918677
Wrong. It was me the whole time.

>> No.69918911

>>69918677
>>69918830
Actually, it was me. Sorry gays.

>> No.69918975

his brand of racism fits right in with niji's intended audience, he probably sees his response as rallying the troops behind him

>> No.69919064

>>69918698
Basically NijiEN reached its modern shitshow state due to severe systemic issues. Underpaid, understaffed and underaged management, individual retards who were able to force pozzed far-left politics into the entire branch without any checks and balances to stop them, absolute garbage recruitment practices with zero quality filter leading to the hiring of some absolutely vile, borderline-sociopathic personalities as livers. And so on.

But it all originates from Riku not spending anything more than the absolute bare minimum on anything. There is no "change so the branch can survive this yab!". If it stops being profitable he will simply dissolve it like he did to ID.
The man has literally bragged about jumping on the vtuber train just to cash in hype to get "immediate results" because he's a "short-term gain focused person".

>> No.69919089

Reminder: jokes about race are only funny when it's obvious you don't actually think the joke is true (see: all white girls fuck dogs).
When Uki makes these "jokes" he needs to realize that nobody is taking them that way because he sounds like he actually believes the words he's saying.

>> No.69919104
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To clarify, I don't let Google save my search history etc.
Normalfags with millions of subs cover this. Japanese investors discuss this. People don't take racism lightly and by that I mean real racism and not what Twitter calls "racist".
I followed Niji EN from the very beginning since I enjoyed Pomu's PL.
I play fucking Honkai Impact and Honkai Star Rail and therefore really hoped for Finana to thrive.
I was there for a fun time and not to get told by the streamer that she doesn't want me to be her audience, I was devastated by how they treated my oshi just because she was not as bitter and uninspired than themselves.
Niji EN livers have shown time and time again that they are awful people. To Pomu, to Selen, to Zaion, to viewers and in general.
I just hope that the last few good ones (Scarle and Doppio come to mind) get out of there and find success elsewhere. It works for Doki, for Sayu and it will work for Mint as well as soon as she finds a place that actually values her.

>> No.69919190

>>69919089
Half of them aren't even jokes it's just him seething randomly for no reason.
Guy has some severe fucking chips on his shoulders.

>> No.69919306

>>69917914
Sad to say, I think the clique will help preserve it. As long as you kiss the ring, you will not be challenged much on it. And this sort of shit is slowly poisoning the Niji community.

Seen it at workplaces, and Nijisanji is a workplace - it is not a ''family''.

>> No.69919544

>>69919190
He replied to obvious bait and dropped a reply that showed how he really feels. You can't look me in the eye and say he were joking. Its how he really feels, and he exposed it. He had time to think before he clicked send, and he did it regardless. Total mess, PR disaster, guy needs to re-evaluate how he acts.

>> No.69919548

>>69919089
If he only joked...
That part when he rants about old couple is really telling a lot about him as a person

>> No.69920104

>>69917914
They might hire some actual managers who fucking speak english, but for the most part no

>> No.69920241

>>69919104
>Just went and checked
ISREAL

>> No.69920269

>>69919190
this. I think jokes about white people or any race can be funny, but I don't think he's joking lol

>> No.69920651

The guy in general has always appeared to to have anger/hatred problems, probably a better and more general term but it feels like if it wasn't white people it'd just be something else. He's so quick to turn it up to an 8 at the drop of a hat. Everything I've seen of him on stream is when collabing with the streamers I watch like Elira and Fulgur, Valorant is a popular one, and the without fail the guy gets pissed off 10 minutes into every game.

>> No.69920909

>>69920651
He probably legit has autism. I mean he's asian right?

>> No.69920955
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>>69917914
>Do you think Niji EN will change for the better?

No. It's probably hit the point of fubar.

>Or will their talents continue to make nonsensical PR choices?

I'd be shocked at this point if they didn't. As Sayu mentioned they will implode themselves.

>I like to believe in happy endings, but its all so tiring right now.

Pekora's monke Jill, is apparently still alive.

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>>69919089
jokes?

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>>69920955
>Pekora's monke Jill, is apparently still alive.
This is good news. Thank you anon.

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>>69921034
no shot this is real

>> No.69921171

>>69921137
it is

>> No.69921240

>>69917914
Why are you reposting your own post, anon?

>> No.69921350

>>69917914
I'd be very curious what real discrimination someone like Uki thinks he has experienced from white people in a first-world North American country in 2010-2024.

>> No.69921443

>>69917914
>Do you think Niji EN will change for the better?
As long as "people" like Enna, Millie, Uki, and Luca are still in the company then lol no. Also the subhuman japs aren't gonna do any real management changes either. Nijisanji will forever be known in the west as a black company that only desperate 2views and luxiem/cliquesisters will join.

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>>69917914
It's not about what can be fixed, but what can be salvaged.

>> No.69921584

>>69917914
>Do you think Niji EN will change for the better?
The same problems we see in EN have been seen in JP for years, it just never blew up this spectacularly. Nor did it any of this occur when Anycolor was this vulnerable.

The problem is Riku, his business strategy is to pump-and-pump-and-pump new talent at minimum cost. As long as he's at the helm nothing will change.

>> No.69923479

I think a lot of people are tired. Unsurprising, really.

>> No.69923572

>>69917914
no need to change when it's been a success and making money

>> No.69923647

>>69917914
I worry that it will continue. Especially after the whole, coordinated PR moves and ''we are a family''. Both fans and talents will suffer as a result.

>> No.69923741

>>69921171
Link the tweet then

>> No.69924310

>>69923741
It has been scrubbed, did you not follow the news? Management was made aware of the yab, and lots of his Twitter replies have now been pruned.

>> No.69924851

>>69924310
Wonder how many levels of cooked that faggot is.

>> No.69926729

>>69917914
I'm a hopeless idealist so I really want to believe they'll improve, but the company's past actions definitely don't make that likely.

>> No.69926929

>>69917914
If they were capable of maturing they wouldn’t still act like bitchy high school dramafags.

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>>69917914
>Do you think Niji EN will change for the better?

As long as complete fucking retards like Uki remain in the corp no.

This is one of the rare cases where the downfall is not because of the management but streamers being complete fucking retards and twitter addicted pieces of crap. Management just encouraged it.

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>>69917914
>Do you think Niji EN will change for the better?
Short to midterm definitely not, longterm only if head management drastically changes its course and creates a new solid management structure, coaches talents and culls the ones that go to much against the grain (in a negative sense).

>Or will their talents continue to make nonsensical PR choices?
If leaker anon is right, then they have hired some PR personnel as an emergency band-aid for their current issues. Talents have been told to keep quiet and return to normal streaming when it's possible. Said anon also hinted a possible restructuring of the EN backoffice, which in best case could at least stop these nonsensical emotionally driven actions that are just more shots into their already wounded feet. Worst case would be, it doesn't change anything and Niji EN continues to slowly deteriorate.

>I like to believe in happy endings, but its all so tiring right now.
Well, it certainly is. I have dropped all of Niji recently in favor of other chuubas to keep myself sane. There's only very few that I would still somewhat trust, but looking at what people have been insinuating regarding Elira, who was considered a community favorite and a pure angel, nothing feels impossible anymore. In the end everything a chuuba puts out could be just an act for entertainment purposes, and it sucks when their mask slips and all you can see is their foul character.

>> No.69927098

>>69917914
>Do you think Niji EN will change for the better?
No, even if they get wrangled in the short term, they'll be back to shooting themselves in the foot soon enough

>> No.69927158

>>69924310
Link the archive

>> No.69927699

>>69919089
He isn’t joking, twitter people like him who are that deep into the woke ideological dogmas truly do believe white, straight people are the source of all evil, no matter how illogical or hypocritical their beliefs are.

>> No.69927803

>>69917914
Don't care anymore. Wake me when Scarle and Rosemi reincarnate.

>> No.69927820

>>69919064
>If it stops being profitable he will simply dissolve it like he did to ID.
What is sad is he didn't even make this choice, other parts of management did.
The IDs have mentioned the Riku was very emotionally invested in the creator of ID so much so he visited them before debut and even allow for staff to buy the first wave gaming laptops to help them stream.
One of the livers mentioned at some point after the merge that their staff didn't even know if Riku knew about some of the first wave graduating and were too afraid to ask/tell him.
We all like to blame Riku because hes the CEO and the one who makes the most money but hes not the only one with power in the company and hes beholden to those others with power and the investors.
I'm not saying to go easy on him because he still deserves to be called out for failing to do his job but do keep in mind hes just a figurehead most of the time and a young one at that.

>> No.69927989

>>69920955
>>69921078
Someone post the collage showing it's a different monkey

>> No.69928761

>>69917914
anon
they might not have the money to actually properly restructure nijien
there's a distinct possibility that they may be doomed.

>> No.69928865

>>69917914
I hope so, but seeing how the whole Doki scandal echoes the previous termination+character assassination? Seems like they have learned nothing.

>> No.69928915

>>69917914
They would need to get rid of most of the talents and start again from scratch.

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>>69917914
No

>> No.69929251

>>69917914
niji streamers and their fans come from twitter, they live for the retarded drama

>> No.69929940

>>69927699
It's funny seeing leddit normalfags and yt comment slackjaws get exposed to this crit theory bullshit that is 100% sincere and not at all some kind of irony. The only reason it keeps getting pushed is because the masses do not know it exists or don't get that these people are indoctrinated to truly hate them.
If anything this niji clusterfuck might've opened up a few more eyes at least.
pic related fitting captcha

>> No.69930075

>>69917914
Well, they started looking for a lot of staff members for the EN branch, so staff problems should resolve themselves over time, but as long as "people" like Enna, Elira and Uki are there, there will always be some sort of shit going on behind the scenes or on screen. After that shitshow with Selen, those 2 bitches will be extra salty, and uki, who is openly racist toward white people, is one step away from causing an on-stream meltdown or triggering the wrong group, and as a result, getting the whole company dragged in public again. As long as the usual 3-5 shit stirrers are around, I have no doubt they will not avoid yabs, no matter how good their new management is.

>> No.69930205

>>69917914
Who knows?
It's obvious that the EN branch has been to fend for itself by the main company. This was kind of proven by the document posted at the attention of shareholders which emphasized on how unimportant NijiEN was compared to the JP branch.

I do hope something constructive is done to avoid another scandal, like hiring proper bilingual managers and PR guys, but I'm inclined to think Niji will either try to sweep it all under the rug or swiftly terminate the entire EN branch.

>> No.69930241

>>69917914
The only way things could be fixed is to get rid of all chuubas who were taking on management roles, hire actual managers who have experience, nip problems in the bud as soon as they arrive instead of letting them fester and hire an actual PR team to teach the retards when to shut the fuck up.
None of those things are going to happen, of course.

>> No.69930272
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I think its just over for NijiEN at this point. What happened this month was the cumulation of all the frustration and problems that had been steadily building up since mid-2022. The talents could've easily stepped back and reflected on some of the criticism, but instead most of the popular ones tripled down on their own stupidity to where no one wants to stick around at this point.
Even ignoring of the normalfag Youtubing sphere, NijiEN is now widely recognized as a bad company with a few good talents, and even that's up for debate because the animosity has been steadily building towards people like like Vox, Uki and Elira for a while now. They've essentially burned away all the goodwill they've spent building for years now and no PR team can easily fix this.

>> No.69930471

>>69930205
>>69930241
It seems as if Anycolor just doesn't understand how the EN speaking sphere of the internet and how the Western market in general works.
This level of incompetence is unreal.

>> No.69930670

>>69919104
The first autofill result on Google when I checked just now was “racist compilation.” If he were one of their female livers, he would’ve been fired months ago.

>> No.69930872

>>69917914
>Do you think Niji EN will change for the better?
For the worse actually.
If elira and the clique return instead of getting fired it's going to empower them within their insipid little group because the only people who can directly enforce consequences on them will have essentially given a green light to everything they've done up till now.
The fact these retards are already responding to all this drama by tripling down on everything means there is no hope.

>> No.69931199

The subhuman fanbase is still there
The complete indifference from the CEO is still there ($7 an hour tardwranglers lmao)
The yab machines not only are still there but are being awarded a concert in Singapore

>> No.69931466

>>69927820
>pinned against the wall by factions in management
>you can't stomp them out without triggering a run on the stock
>have to take the blame publicly anyway, since you're the face of the company
Yeah, I'd stay in my yacht getting blackout drunk off cognac too.

Of course that's IF your positive speculation is true. He could well just be an out of touch douche, a couple of goodwill gestures to ID back in the day aside.

>> No.69932128

>>69931466
It could be a combination of the two. NTA but I believe Riku is just an out of touch yuppie, never full on malicious but woefully unequipped for the task of being a CEO. He just likely didn't envision Nijisanji getting as big as it did, certainly not NijiEN, and now that their old model of "Spam vtubers" is no longer working, they have to find some way to fix it up. Short term strategies just dont work anymore.

>> No.69932742

>>69917914
Short answer? No.

There's no indication of any changes going on. It appears no one responsible is getting anything more than a wrist slap. There's no evidence that any kind of reorganization is going on, no announcement of new management, the job postings are a joke (sub-poverty wages for a multi-lingual talent manager who will probably have no real authority).

Riku's track record in this regard is also bad. Rather than reform the other branches which failed, he folded them into JP and essentially shut them down. Frankly, if this situation wasn't serious enough to make him act appropriately - talents bullying each other to suicide and chasing out the top stars, the news breaking into the normiesphere and painting Niji in a very bad light, and the permanent destruction of Niji's reputation - then nothing will.

Don't even get me started on their toxic and psychotic fanbase who are encouraged to behave the way they do by the Livers and the management. I used to think the Sonic fanbase was awful until I discovered the Sisters.

EN will never recover. They will continue tottering along with shrinking views and locked chats, while Elira or the nameless management or whoever was responsible for the Selen disaster will continue kicking popular and profitable stars out of the company (I'm convinced Scarle is next). I continue to bet on the branch being folded in Q4 2024 or Q1 2025.

>> No.69933172

>>69917914
The fact that all of this happened and Uki/Wilson were even able to make twitter replies about those topics indicates that Niji EN doesn't actually have any control over the situation or any intent to improve.
It is only going to get worse before it gets better.

>> No.69933289

>>69927006
Same, dropped the whole company, don't want to support any potential bullies.

>> No.69933413

>>69930075
As long as hanamori and nepotism are the biggest clique in niji, there is no hope.

>> No.69933470

>>69930075
>so staff problems should resolve themselves over time
They're paid 8 dollars / hour, even in Japan that doesn't give you loyalty.

>> No.69933865

>>69930272
>They've essentially burned away all the goodwill they've spent building for years now and no PR team can easily fix this.
As someone who had to deal with PR related issues for my department back when I worked a very visible job, this is all too real. If the public really Really hates you (or the organization you represent)? It is very hard to just change it, it takes a long time, and lots of work.

>> No.69934193

>>69932742
>I used to think the Sonic fanbase was awful until I discovered the Sisters.
that's a new level of low and the sonic fanbase are incredibly autistic... well, yeah the sisters are worse

>> No.69934374

I think I dropped Niji after the overall fanbase started to reek of kpop stans.

>> No.69934432

>>69932742
>Sonic fanbase
I think the Luxiem sisters should be compared to the Steven Universe fanbase, wasn’t there also an incident that dealt with suicide in that fandom?

>> No.69934443

>Do you think Niji EN will change for the better?
lolno. so long as the ones making it the way it is are still there it'll never change for the better. the branch is done for. their reputation is shot in the west and they've continuously made terrible pr decisions that makes them look even worse than they already did. any damage control they continue to do will also just make them look worse and worse because they will get called out every time due to being unable to admit any wrongdoing and fucking up their pr somehow.
>Or will their talents continue to make nonsensical PR choices?
all signs points toward this
>I like to believe in happy endings, but its all so tiring right now.
if you think this has a happy ending then you haven't been paying attention

>> No.69934472

>>69933865
I was browsing my university's subreddit recently because I was bored and people are still constantly bring up a scandal to paint the student union as incompetent as fuck. This incident was the former President stealing money from the students and he never apologized if I remember. And this was from 2016 - 7 years ago. Ever since then, it has been a stain on the union since forever.

So, yes, I agree with you that it'll be hard to change perceptions and I honestly believe NijiEN will be having everyone bring up the Selen situation whenever they appear. And in this case, it's well-deserved. I hope people bring up the fact that Elira's clique pushed two people to attempt suicide wherever they go.

They never apologized and will never apologize. Also, they mention that this incident is harassment and the NDF is probably using that as a means to HIDE the incident too...

>> No.69934531

>>69932742
>I continue to bet on the branch being folded in Q4 2024 or Q1 2025.
I just don't think they can afford it, unlike ID/IN/KR they've banked their future, in front of the shareholders, on overseas expansion. They can't walk that shit back. It'd hobble, it'd go through 10 000 reforms if it has to, but they can't fold the EN branch without tanking the stock.

>> No.69934593

>>69934472 (me)
Admit fault and that you fucked up, it's not hard. Even if it was disingenuous, so many people will be off your backs. Until then, accept that this stain will forever black all of your employees and follow you forever even if you go indie, NijiEN.

>> No.69934596

>>69921456
And the answer is "some of the livers"
Rosemi and Scarle and Vivi for sure, along with a few others. There should be at least 20 worth saving, more or less

>> No.69934629

>>69933470
Oh the pay is low, but aren't at least some of those positions for soon-to-be graduates? Also, nip office culture dictates you most often start at the bottom, and with each year, your salary increases, so a person working 15 years at one company could expect good salary (by JP standards), but if he/she were to leave, in a lot of places, they'd have to start from scratch, and even call snotty kids at their new places senpai despite them only having a couple of years of experience. It seems to be changing in some sectors, but their whole work culture is extremely fucked and inefficient. 8$/hour is low for Tokyo, but I've seen some nips claim they can survive with 1k a month. Riku is essentially keeping up with black company traditions: offer absolute shit, and if they leave - no problem because there's always fresh meat. If they continue working there, then the chances of them leaving decreases substantially due to reasons I've already mentioned. With that in mind, you are then able to abuse/bully your workers. It's truly a fucked up system.

>> No.69934666

>>69921034
my white inner plantation owner genes flared up reading this, I want to keep him on a leash

>> No.69934742

>>69917914
didn't read but nijiEN is finished (and that's a good thing)

>> No.69934779

they at least didn't make some horrible PR faux pas on this past Friday.
First time in 3 weeks. Progress!

>> No.69934845

>>69934593 (me)
I seriously don't fucking understand why you'd stay at that company racking up lots of cash but destroying your professional reputation in the process. No one will like you anymore in the industry and future industries if you disclose your past, god, even if I was racking a lot of cash, I would jump ship. The money is not worth the worst reputation that'll follow you for life...

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Probably not

>> No.69934953

Only dramatubers and this board thinks it is nonsensical PR choices. And those groups will say anything they do is bad. So in reality those PR choices are inconsequential.

>> No.69935092

>>69934472
>They never apologized and will never apologize
I think the black screen also created a situation where now they have to make some form of public apology to Elira, because a portion of the fanbase (the portion that is more likely to return) is convinced the talent were used as meat shields. Whatever Elira is guilty or not in the bullying, or whatever it was her idea to do that stream to begin with, they're in a situation where if they don't address that it'd look like they're using the talents to cover themselves (which tbf isn't below them).

>> No.69935196

>>69919104
Kek this shit shows up in icognito and fresh installed browsers too. This guy is fucked.

>> No.69935208

>>69934845 (me)
Also, I just fucking remembered. Because of NijiEN's really stupid PR approach with the Selen situation.

It created a cultural cascade effect where it forced everyone to break the PL secrets. The amount of times I've heard of friend's social media algorithms (Twitter & YouTube) purposefully reveal vtuber's PLs has been a lot. By terminating Selen like this, you've basically allowed the floodgates for everyone to check vtuber's PLs more openly without scrutiny and hesitation. So, the bad actors in NijiEN will be identified so much faster now. At least the good actors in NijiEN will be revealed once they leave.

NijiEN, you all lacked the foresight, intelligence, and skills to handle this smartly. Now your sins will legitimately follow your online careers forever. With Vtubing, at least you could get have some separation. Not fucking anymore, people will fucking find you now. Jesus fucking christ, I hate you all so much.

>> No.69935242

>>69934845
Well if that leak is true, you can't just leave. You submit your application and wait for a spot, otherwise you have to wait out on your contract to run out. Must be shitty, because you can hear the public grace clock ticking for them.

>> No.69935310

>>69935196
not for me

>> No.69935383

>>69934629
Zaion spoke about a manager that was hired, trained for 2 weeks and bolted before her termination. The long-term commitment is for Toyota and Mitsubishi, not Anycolor.

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>>69934953
>inconsequential
Sisters really think like Anycolor management huh?

>> No.69935417

So quick do people forget that a nice big CHUNK of NijiKR got sacked and or left because of bullying. Now look at them. A few remaining (like 5) are speaking Japanese and no one mentions that at all. Give it time. If this crap doesn't improve it will all be gone and it will be just Petra and the 2 halfus girls left as a remnant.

>> No.69935491

>>69917914
>all those job postings
>still looking for Japanese natives to manage the EN branch
They might be trying but they sure as hell aren't learning

>> No.69935560

>>69935092
Agreed, they cannot address this or people will remember this forever. I believe their rapid fanbase will dismiss it though because it hurts their feelings to remember and it's "harassment"

>>69935242
I honestly believe it because it makes too much sense where you need to wait. They want to finish all projects and time it right, if I was a shitty JP manager, I would absolutely use this and fine my talents if they leave early. It's super shitty overall and I don't fault them. Still, you look bad by staying in there.

Hopefully the leaks (if true) allow them to get some form of sympathy because right now, I have none anymore.

>> No.69935611

>>69934953
Whatever they pay you it's still too much,sister.

>> No.69935655

>>69935417
Why didn't the Kpopstans fucking warn us. Stupid koreaboos

>> No.69935672

>>69934193
Autists are just autists, they don't really have the awareness of their nature. Sisters are willfully malicious and evil.

>> No.69935738

>>69935672
well-said. I'll describe the sisters like this now

>> No.69935777

>>69934472
If the leakposters are also to believed and they aren't just a bunch of bored LARPers, NijiEN will soon be digging themselves a deeper grave because of the fact that they're still planning various grassroots gayops. The Selen situation will haunt them even more as a result, because of the fact that the problem talents are rumored to be not over the whole thing, and also because downplaying their actions would only make it clearer that they are not remorseful over anything that they've ever done.

>> No.69935821

>>69921034
please post proof that its real. i hate this dudes guts but if this post is real, my blood is literally boiling because of the dog comment alone. i refuse to believe that even this piece of fucking shit is that much of a scumbag.

>> No.69935890

>>69935611
>>69935416
>proving the point
Thanks.

>> No.69936060

i wonder how much the fine for breaking contract early is. if a streamer or a group went rogue and left early, could they survive the monetary hit off of public goodwill?

>> No.69936094

>>69917914
Anon I honestly feel bad for you if you are being honest here. And I'm sad to say that it's a legitimate systemic issue, the real kind not the twitter buzzword kind.
If you check Anycolor financial reports and public records they are a truly penny pinching organization that could put Scrooge Mc Duck to shame and as long as they don't put some serious investment into their reestructuring and entirely scrap their current business model for a more sustainable and long term one then it's hopeless and the problem is that the person who has to spearhead this is the one that caused this issue to begin with, Riku Tazumi. And he's a billionaire trust fund baby, he has no reason to do put in this work.
To give you a possible way out, hope that this entire shitshow pisses Tazumi enough that once the beedling stops he just sells the whole thing to someone else with more experience, but it is unlikely that he lets it go without first doing the bare minimum to save face.

>> No.69936100

There's so many things working against them in terms of actual change. They can't do a stock buyback because they just did one and from what I've read they risk getting delisted, so firing more talent especially from their one avenue for expansion (no matter how shitty they are) affects investor confidence negatively. From what I've read floating around a lot of the talents have signed 2 year contracts recently. So they're on the hook as well on that front, any payout to multiple talents will be financially painful. Contracts go both ways and while I think some of the EN talents are idiots I highly doubt that they didn't get legal advice before renewing. So winding down their contracts is their only realistic option. If they terminate, they need to pay hush money because it sure as hell sounds like there a lot of questionable shit they don't want aired. Once those guys are removed, they need to be replaced and good will re-established. That takes time and money. Sponsorships have been lost, so that's even less income. Those sponsorships didn't disappear into the void. They've gone to direct competitors and indies. That puts them further behind competitors. Any funding for an EN restructure will have to be propped up by JP as it gets re-established. I don't see Niji taking their lumps and changing. They'll do nothing other than make a few token gestures and hope it all goes away.

>> No.69936112

>>69935777
God, I believe it. The leakposters are probably frustrated with never being able to leave so they're probably trying to salvage the reputations of everyone who isn't contributing to such a toxic work environment if they really are trapped.

I also believe it might be LARPers too in the mix. Who knows, it's all fucking stupid and if they try another grassroots gayops, the internet is willing to counter it quickly, thankfully.

What seriously made me mad was the Zaion Op fucking working. Thankfully people caught on now.

>> No.69936142

>>69917914
This is the sort of thing that competent management intervenes on and stamps out of talent way before it gets this bad. And by that I mean actually talking through with the guy in detail over what could go wrong, why it harms themselves, the company, other talents etc.

It's apparent talents didn't get that guidance and support and just got hit with stealth suspensions like they are toddlers going into the naughty corner instead of adults. A real shame that it gets to this point, and entirely preventable.

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>>69935890
>having your japanese CEO bow and apologize to investors due to a stock crash while everyone unsubs from the foreign branch is inconsequential
Okay sister

>> No.69936192

>>69935417
>it will be just Petra and the 2 halfus girls left as a remnant.
>Elira dead in a ditch
>Hanamori eternally shunned
the good ending

>> No.69936213

>>69934432
Yes, a bunch of fans drove someone to attempt to commit suicide because she was drawing Rose Quartz (Steven's mother) as too skinny for their liking.

>> No.69936220

The problem isn't he PR choices, the problem is the way the branch is run.
You can try to shut everyone up "don't talk about how shitty things actually are", but that doesn't solve the actual problem.

>> No.69936282

Retards like Uki not getting reprimanded while Pomu gets suspended for saying deez nuts makes me think the clique is very much real

>> No.69936288

>>69936163
>proving the point
No need to prove the point further but thanks anyways.

>> No.69936358

>>69936100
>From what I've read floating around a lot of the talents have signed 2 year contracts recently.
lol their online careers are so over after this. You being stuck in there for 2 more years after one of the biggest yabs in vtuber history is the worse thing to happen to you. No wonder they're so desperate to turn public opinion around

>> No.69936380

>>69936288
The point that you're a retard who doesn't know how public PR works? Yeah we understand that clearly sister.

>> No.69936521

>>69917914
The problem is this shit didn’t really started in december.

Elira rrat real or not, EN Management has been 1000% shit. For more than a year. Talents were told to play the “family” card in response to everything to the point we can see now it’s fake.

1st gen is a mess. 2nd gen basically is not existant anymore. The best defense their OWN supporters can give is that they are incompetent to the point they can’t understand english. The best defense!!!

>Way out that are not death.
Solution 1 that any corpo will say is scapegoat. Always throw all your problems to someone else. Clearly not happening if Elira is gonna stream.
Solution 2 is brace for impact and let the storm pass. Sadly, they can’t shut the fuck up. Ike basically made them getting second impact.

Another problem is that main branch, JP, has no shit on themselves. They are actually thriving. Niji will not allow this shitstorm to continue if it hits JP, no matter the cost, unless they want to die with it.

So unless your solution is nuke EN, Solution 3 is left…which is basically Solution 2. Going ahead and make ABSOLUTELY SURE to cause no more drama. At all. Which looks frankly impossible for me but I gave my analysis.

We are far past a winning scenario for them. It was too late with the self-accusation video, and it’s even more late with Ike and Wilson shitting the bed and failing the artist “family” rally. Life lesson, sometimes you just take the L, or die trying to reject it.

>> No.69936530

>>69936380
The point is that you are brainwashed and nothing anyone will say will change your mind. It is part of what makes you unlikable and a terminal virgin who can't find any friends.

>> No.69936542

>>69936060
If the fine is "pay back for your model and everything we've ever spent on you", which it probably is, then you're fucked.

>> No.69936614

>>69935383
Long-term commitment used to be for almost all places before their economy went to shit in 80s. It was the standard way of working: you get hired and retire at the same organization, or maybe change a couple of companies once you get a promotion so you could get hired at a higher position. This still exists in many companies that are not literal sweatshops like Anycolor. Deciding to fuck off was the right choice for her manager because, as you said, the company is absolute shit. For the record, nearly 40% of nip companies are considered black, so those that cannot leave for a better company, essentially suffer in 1 place for a long time or keep jumping from one company to another.

>> No.69936662

>>69917914
I think NijiEn will ironically give up on the English market, and focus on Chinese/Korean women who don't speak English but like the sound of it over Japanese

>> No.69936680

>>69936542
NTA, this is the most Japanese type of fine. I believe this. They believe that all of their time, training, and resources spent on you must be put on the employee. I don't doubt they'd say they would charge for the model + training + project revenues missed, etc.

>> No.69936771

>>69936542
How much would it be? The livers already pay for their debut and projects to begin with.

$5k for character design
$5k for rigging
$20k for consultation (Elira)

>> No.69936833

>>69936530
>Tangible blowback by normalfags on Nijisanji as a whole has affected them due to PR issues
>NO YOU'RE A BRAINWASHED VIRGIN CHUDCEL
Kek, good luck living in your dreamworld

>> No.69936889

>>69935655
there was a kr bro that crashed on /lig/ every other thread back in 2022 that explained the whole nijikr clusterfuck

>> No.69936896

>>69936833
>no u
Cool story virgin.

>> No.69937158

>>69935821
i remember it being someone else that tweeted that

>> No.69937205

>>69936771
Depends on how nasty they want to be. Because if you've been for 2 years or more they can push the expenses into your next contract, so then they start factoring in things like transportation, second outfit or any technical equipment they've given you, etc.
There's probably a reason people haven't just walked out of there.

>> No.69937216

>>69917914
It just shows how much society lives in two separate worlds. This motherfucker genuinely, actually, 100% believes there's something inherently evil about white people when the exact opposite is true. And these bitter delusional people are going to continue pushing it further and further until the planet earth is slum

>> No.69937302

>>69917914
At this point they're fucked. Thanks to people like Elira and Vox sperging out in public the branch is now associated with the talents bullying their most popular streamer to attempted suicide. Nobody worthwhile would even want to join now, even if you're a bully yourself you don't want that label on you.

>> No.69937341

Ok, but why is that PR disaster still up on Elira's channel?

>> No.69937408

>>69936112
i'm also mad that her model was basically wasted as well

>> No.69937438

>>69937341
Because they believe they're in the right.

>> No.69937512

>>69937341
Deleting it at this point would just be an admission of guilt

>> No.69937550

>Blocked Pomu from MGS collab
>Bullied Selen
>Made Nina feel out of place and leave
Fuck. them. And if any of them are reading this. Fuck you.

>> No.69937614

>>69936521
>Another problem is that main branch, JP, has no shit on themselves. They are actually thriving.
Eh, thriving is not the term I'd use. Investors have been up in arms about o/s expansion - because the JP market is saturated. It's that obvious that a bunch of suits can see it. They are one of the dominant players in the JP market but growth opportunities are limited.

>> No.69937708

>>69937341
didn't she willingly offer her channel or some shit

>> No.69937783

>>69936896
NTA, if you interact with normies (you have to) and they hear you like NijisanjiEN. They'll bring up the Selen situation to your face, it'll happen. Enjoy being socially isolated with your sisters

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69937859

How did Cover get away with hiring an actual baby?

>> No.69937951

>>69917914
They can't and there are two main reasons why:
Firstly, their company culture won't allow them to make significant changes so they'll always have a rotten core even if they slap a new coat of paint on it.
Secondly, their brand is now toxic waste, sane people who love vtubing won't want to touch them, the only ones who will apply will be sisters and male sisters who unironically think that niji did nothing wrong. if you think uki's 5 minute racist compilation was too much the new hires will be spouting that shit every stream and them going to twitter to dab on the haters
NijiEN has already died but it'll be a while before it's bloated corpse explodes

>> No.69937976

>>69937859
>an actual baby
more mature than 95 % of all Niji EN livers

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>>69937783
Anon, you're currently talking to pic related. The fucker doesn't go outside.

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>>69921034
>>69921137
>>69935821
real tweet but not uki

>> No.69938206

>Niji (a group of mentally immature young people where bullies hang out and dominate their classmates through bullying)
>No more bullying in school
Never

>> No.69938300

>>69938070
True, probably why they don't get your argument lol

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>>69938070
this anon is right though, this has already reached normalfag audiences and continues to do so. even westerners that have no idea what vtubers are all about or who just know
>haha this streamer is an anime character
will know that anycolor is radioactive, toxic waste.

>> No.69938704

>>69938086
some people really just shouldnt have access to the internet

>> No.69938719

>>69936530
My dude man, look at Blizzard, one of the once most beloved game companies. It did not die of bad products, it died of bad PR. Just look at the “did you guys not have phone?” incident. It never recovered since.

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>>69917914
This really show how sensitive is the average whiteboy from 4chan is.

This is the only place that is making a fuss about Uki being mean to white people, beside here we only got some coverage from dramatubers, and it was a nothingburger, that didn't gaint track in any place beside here.

Since Uki response to that twitter troll, you guys have been seething 24/7 making a new thread every hour, he really touched your sensible prostate, like a good gay man he is, and you guys can't let it go.

Uki isn't sorry, management isn't gonna make him apology and at best it will give him a slap on the wrist, and we have no idea if he actually toked some vacations, or if he is suspended.

Cry me a river whiteboy and holobronies, we survived being canceled for bullying one fat chinese woman to commit an allegedly attempted suicide, this will not even affect us.

>> No.69938838

>>69938751
>This is the only place that is making a fuss about Uki being mean to white people
Mentally damaged and bubbled sister alert.

>> No.69938870

>>69938751
braaap

>> No.69938970

>>69938719
was the breast milk stealing thing at blizzard or activision's?

>> No.69938980

>>69938838
>Ohhh no a drama tuber griffter talked about this
>Ohh no a alt right leaning vtuber talked about this

Cry me a river virgin.

>> No.69939032

>>69938751
>management isn't gonna make him apology
Where do they even find you people?

>> No.69939039

>>69938086
not a real tweet, that's not an account that ever existed

>> No.69939051

>>69938751
huddling in your little corner, rocking back and forward while mumbling about hololive being rent free in your head isn't going to stop the normalfags from talking about this.

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>>69938751
>we
>us
>literally the only thing that comes up if you look up this guy is irrelevant
please, take your meds. your family is worried about you.

>> No.69939209

>>69938751
You goddamn fucking retard, no one actually really cares about him saying shit about white people, what's baffling is that this fucking idiot threw that shit when his own company is under complete scrutiny by half the internet, so to regain a semblance of reputation beyond psychotic sisters you would have to lay down for a while

But this goddamn fucking retard didn't understand for 1 bit the situation him and his friends are in and decided to do that, so the repercussions were obvious

>> No.69939545

>>69936112
Zaion was just a victim of circumstance in this situation. She wasn't there for very long and didnt make a ton of connections, so EN figured out that they could do whatever they wanted to her. Their biggest mistake was doing that to Selen, severely underestimating the relationships she formed outside of NijiEN and greatly overestimating how much she actually contributed to the brand.
Compared to how comparatively selfish Elira was by making sure only her and her friends did well, Selen was selfLESS by investing so much money out of her own pockets in the hopes that everyone in the branch benefits.

>> No.69939605

>>69917914
Considering their latest stunts and that no one seem to be actually sorry about what happened, or even have the slightest trace of remorse, choosing instead to triple down on being incredibly retarded, I think even with EN restructuration, they won't change for the better. They need an even better yab to understand that their behavior won't make them survive any longer in their shithole

>> No.69939621

>>69938980
What does my status of whether I commit adultery or if I'm married have to do with your brain damaged asian boy and racism?

>> No.69939663

>>69938970
Blizzard’s

>> No.69939819

>>69939621
Last resort insult. Basically the "you're gay!" from 17 years ago.

>> No.69940255

>>69939545
I remember people saying that there's no way NijiEN would pull a Zaion situation on Selen because it would be brand suicide. The fact that they actually went and did it is baffling.

>> No.69940598

>>69940255
i'm more baffled that they even thought they could pull this off again without any chance of it backfiring, the other 3 jumping in with the black stream as well, going all in with the overlap. Were those organs really that high off their own farts?

>> No.69940770

>>69940255
I really think that was because they greatly underestimated how much they were actually liked/respected throughout the EN scene, and they didn't seem to understand how much of their numbers were inflated by China/SEA.
That's the only way I could understand their fuck up, just one big egotrip that had dire consequences for everyone involved. Especially because they completely forgot that Selen was one of the few people that actually reached out to others in the EN vtubing scene and beyond that, while the clique essentially circlejerked each other in their gay little discord warroom.

>> No.69940879

>>69936213
Wow. I don’t know what to say to that other than what the actual fuck. Now I really think some Luxiem sisters used to be in the Steven Universe fanbase

>> No.69941692

i wouldnt sweat it too much, the people who have that much bitterness and hatred are also mostly suicidal. i'd give him like 1 year tops before he jumps off a bridge. it really just has a weird karmic way of sorting itself out.

>> No.69941783

>>69927820
>gaming laptops

>> No.69941850

>>69941692
>i'd give him like 1 year tops before he jumps off a bridge
His faggot ass would choose pills and subsequently wouldn't even die.

>> No.69942265

>>69940770
Add to that that Selen was the contact person for EA and probably also Hyte, seeing how fast both of those jumped ships

>> No.69942571

>>69932128
I think you're being too generous with his character, as that still doesn't explain his garbage interview/Q&A.

>> No.69942688

>>69942265
did EA really revoke perms?

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>>69917914

>> No.69942853

They would need to, at the very least
>purge EN management(or the lack there of) and replace them with sufficient competent people, this needs to be very transparent
>look into the internal communications and weed out the bullies within the livers if any, this will be followed by terminations of course(Terminated for misconduct/violating activity rules)
>possibly re-look into better payouts for all livers to encourage them to stay
>start up projects, 3D debuts, etc, this will take time to happen but they are needed to draw viewers back
And even then the first few months after the fallout will still require them to move very carefully with lots of trolls and dramatubers lurking to find anything to milk. Any recovery will take a long time, and we haven't even got to the fact that their tattered reputation now discourages indies from joining so they won't be getting a lot of good indies let alone top quality indies. It'll be a good 2 or 3 years before they truly recover.

>> No.69942994

>>69917914
>Do you think Niji EN will change for the better?
No, not anytime soon with current power dynamics.
>Or will their talents continue to make nonsensical PR choices?
It is possible.

>> No.69943698

>>69940255
real answer? the clique is posting on the doxxsite and they thought that sister fanfics was the general sentiment of the entire fanbase.

>> No.69943893

>>69942688
They probably didn't pull perms because there's still popular Niji talents on the JP side of the company that still support their games and have nothing to do with this, but they're certainly having second thoughts about having any ties to EN right now. Not only was EN's management making things a nightmare when EA only really wanted to partner up with Selen, but it'd be a nightmare to partner up with a company that has a far worse reputation than EA did in the past.

>> No.69944154

>>69938970
>breast milk stealing
wtf

>> No.69944770

>>69930075
I heard that Uki got suspended under the guise of a break because "the world is cruel" (faggot) which hopefully means he's getting terminated. I honestly hated him even more than that snake Kyo.

>> No.69944841

>>69944154
Employee had a baby who wouldn't breastfeed directly so she had to pump it separately. She stored it and labeled it breastmilk. Somebody stole it and nobody figured out who so they had to start padlocking fridges iirc.

>> No.69944911

>>69944154
>https://www.dexerto.com/business/nursing-activision-blizzard-employees-say-their-breast-milk-kept-getting-stolen-1717345/
blizzard also got sued over an employee committing suicide(successful) because of sexual harassment.

>> No.69945057

>>69917914
>google 'uki violeta'
>first autocomplete result is 'uki violeta racist compilation'
uh-oh

>> No.69945140

>>69917914
>Do you think Niji EN will change for the better?
everyone outside of the clique is leaving. In the end the clique and their flunkies will be the only ones left. There is no turning back.

>> No.69945317

>>69944841
sounds far fetched to me, they couldn't figure out who it was even with cameras in the office?

>> No.69945709

>>69945317
It was the 2008 employee breakroom so maybe they didn't have cameras there. The fact that Blizzard's response was to give her a personal mini-fridge means they probably didn't.
A decade later another employee installed two hidden cameras in the unisex bathrooms and nobody knew for almost a month so the breastmilk thing isn't unbelievable.

>> No.69945926

>>69942853
They need to do this, but they can't do this. Investors would turn tail and run as soon as they started. Because it means that Anycolor is admitting to being so woefully incompetent that they let their only chance for global expansion get to a state that needs serious purging to fix. They cannot satisfy the west's demands for justice and reform while also satisfying Japanese shareholders. Nijisanji is stuck between a rock and a hard place. All they can do is take cover and hope the storm passes.

>> No.69946013

>>69917914
They ARE changing for the better.
NIJIEN are turning into the big bad of vtubing that unites the rest against them.
Salute the Clique, their orbiters and the remaining cowards for their sacrifice.

>> No.69946111

>>69945057
YAB™

>> No.69946290

>>69917914
>Or will their talents continue to make nonsensical PR choices?
Honestly, looking forward to those. But it looks like there's someone in the NijiEN now who taught them how to shut the fuck up. How many calm days has it been already? 3-4?

>> No.69946412

>>69917914
You get the vtubers you deserve.

>> No.69946534

>>69946013
>turning into an online mob is good
Nope

>> No.69947145

The dissonance between wanting death of Nijisanji and the loser hugbox mentality on this board is hilarious.

>> No.69947426

>>69936282
It's crazy it took people actually publicizing his shit to such a degree for staff to finally put their foot down and they only really did it in order to save face. Imagine if no attention at all was brought to it

>> No.69947614

>>69946534
>wahhhh why am i being punished for my behavior wahhhhhhhhhhhhh

>> No.69947702

>>69934900
This anon sees the infinity.

>> No.69947739

>>69946534
it kind of is when you look at it as a nuclear waste site.

>> No.69948214

>>69946534
There are more than a few things in the modern day that would be solved by a good mob.

>> No.69948359

>>69917914
He's the caricature I'd think /pol/ made up. People like that are better off being insane 1views on twitch without so much influence.

>> No.69948531

>>69917914
Nothing's going to change until corporate puts their foot down.
These are spoiled children that constantly feel the need to get the final word in any disagreement, no matter how bad it makes them or their company look, without ever considering all the people working their asses off to cover for their mistakes.
When they grow up, pull their heads out of their asses and learn how the real world works, then maybe they'll finally see some improvement.

>> No.69948727

Uki is not currently suspended. He liked a tweet from about 3 hours ago, which means he still has access to his account.

>> No.69949687

>>69937302
please anon, tell us what this bullying was? Oh wait you can't, because there was nothing other than everyday workplace banter, per Vox. Selen didn't refute that point.

>> No.69950582

>>69948727
Zaion was allowed to still be on social media while she was suspended, per both Nijisanji's termination announcement and Sayu's document.
Niji can't afford an obvious suspension, so it wouldn't surprise me if they skinwalked the livers' accounts just to make them look alive and well.

>> No.69950801

>>69947614
>>69947739
>>69948214
Theres no such thing as a good mob. Mobs by their nature are a symptom of breakdown of trust and order and act like locusts that only stop when they lose interest or die. You think they'll stop just at Niji? You think someone else won't just pace and lead them against your oshis? It's not worth letting that cat out.

>> No.69950810

>>69948359
I would say he's what the stereotypical lefty is like under the surface. They're usually bitter, miserable people who got socially ostracized for some perceived difference early in life and never learned how to move past it. Unfortunately, they are fairly common among young adults. Same goes for the other side too but this post is already veering off dangerously close to /pol/itical territory so I'll just leave it at that

>> No.69950967

>>69950801
My oshi is stronger than your paper kitten livers, sister. If she can't survive a frenzied mob then she shouldn't be in an industry that exists to create frenzied fans. The difference between a mob and an idol crowd is appeasement.

>> No.69951012

>>69950810
It's more basic than that, they're midwits that think they're owed something because life requires struggle.

>> No.69951203

>>69917914
AnyColor but White.

>> No.69951285

>>69943893
>a company that has a far worse reputation than EA did in the past.
That's an impressive feat, when you think about it.

>> No.69951362

>>69950967
>My oshi is stronger than a 100k+ internet mob that will dox and harass her online and irl
I very much doubt that but good on you for thinking it's okay for your oshi to go through something like that and having faith I guess

>> No.69953318

>>69950810
I don't think these people face much in the way of hardship since they are chronically doomscrolling and virtue signalling so they make themselves depressed and paranoid. And their actual life is totally mundane.

>> No.69954726

>>69917914
Uki is the type of person who bullied Pikamee because she is half-white.
Sees no fault with it even as an adult. And that won't change.

>> No.69955515

>>69927158
Ok i will bite, you can't archive something if it is not longer there

>> No.69956042

>>69940255
I remember thinking that too. I'm still stunned they went nuclear. I can't imagine ANYONE thinking anything they did was good with the situation.

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i thought that sisters like racism?

>> No.69957432

>>69957138
>banning a Spanish word because it hurts my feelings
kek

>> No.69958902

>>69920909
I'm sure every Asian born in canada is like that.
Imagine Asian parents or grandparents come from the most racist place on the planet,
growing up only to be educated in woke mindset
where every white person is guilty of existing.

>> No.69960160

>>69934531
I agree they can't afford it, but they're also in an impossible situation with views and subs crashing and zero prospects for growth. There's clearly a graduation queue in the company and there's only so long they can put off peoples' graduations, before some of them just start walking out and daring the company to sue.

>> No.69960331

>>69960160
>before some of them just start walking out and daring the company to sue
my knees would start kneeling on their own if someone would do that, but i highly doubt that anybody there has the guts for it.

>> No.69961349

>>69939209
It doesn't matter, Uki successfully baited the election tourists who have been shitting up 4chan for years and is playing them like a fiddle because now he can point to the sisters and say 'Big bad 4chan is attacking me, oh woe!' and use that as a distraction for Elria's clique bullying Doki into nearly killing herself.
And we know they've used 4chan as a foil already from the doxsite leaker post saying Zaion was going to be terminated and they pointed to 4chan as being one of the reasons.
Conservative victim complex, it's a helluva drug.

>> No.69962702

>>69949687
Keep coping, Nijinigger - the whole world sees your dogshit company for what it really is.

>> No.69963115

>>69917914
I can see why he's still in this company, kurosanji isn't white

>> No.69963212

>>69951285
It really is. Back then EA was known for killing companies and franchises hard, nowadays they're mostly known for some occasional good stuff like the Dead Space remake, mostly mediocre games, and terrible online game launches/PC ports. Which is a big step up compared to Anycolor's current state.

>> No.69963676

>>69960331
You can only keep people trapped for so long. If they attempted to resign a year ago and Nijisanji is still saying "lol six more months" they're just going to stop cooperating eventually. The whole thing is unsustainable - the entire company is too corrupt and stupid to continue existing. What can't go on won't.

>> No.69963993
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as long as niji keeps people who behave like picrel they won't improve

>> No.69965161

>>69918319
im just glad I can ignore the drama due to Pomster leaving before Selen, I imagine the timeline where she were still stuck in niji would be true pain

>> No.69965172

>>69917914
On the management level the situation can probably be salvaged. Hire some competent staff who'll rule with an iron fist and forcefully dismantle the cliques, give it some good yabless time and it'll be okay.
Things getting better on the liver level though? Fat fucking chance. There's a 100% chance that it's a den of snakes right now, and every snake in there is angry and hungry as all hell. It'll absolutely collapse if the livers are left to fend for themselves.

>> No.69965643

>>69944770
Wasn't the break announced before his latest retardation, or am I remembering it wrong?
If it was then what else could've brought a suspension about?

>> No.69966332

>>69934596
>Vivi
If the leak is real, the new wave already side with the clique

>> No.69966643

>>69957138
>goddamn i hate the en vtubing fanbase
lol, lmao even

>> No.69967131

>>69963993
Fucking white people makes more white people
I see this as a win

>> No.69967238

>>69967131
That pic is older than this board.

>> No.69967356

>>69934596
Vivi is almost certainly bending the knee to the clique. I have great doubts about her ability to graduate or otherwise exit the company because they almost certainly are hanging the debut debt over her head on top of all the exit fees Nijisanji seems to charge.

The more successful Livers can probably afford to pay all these fees if worst comes to worst, but the newer ones (Vivi included) are probably screwed.

>> No.69968102

>>69967356
>debut debt
>when Niji doesn't fucking pay for anything with debut other than the model and an iphone
I know those things aren't peanuts, but that's still retarded.

>> No.69968824

>>69967356
she deserves better.... ffs

>> No.69969404

>>69936060
For most of them, they are fucked. Many places use the same tactic. Lure in poor, desperate workers, with the big opportunity, then make sure they owe you / depend on you.

It is the business version of a love bomb. They are fucked once they realize the kindness has ended.

>> No.69969448

>>69968824
She really doesn't because she chose this path

>> No.69969501

>>69937512
Yes, now it is going to linger there, as her biggest success in recent memory. And people are going to associate her with the drama going forward. What a self-own.

>> No.69969516

>>69961349
Didn't the leaker say Uki got stealth suspended?

>> No.69969594

>>69945057
just checked Duckduckgo, it suggested me Uki Violeta; 'Racism', and then 'Real Face' as the next result.

Yikes.

>> No.69969723

>>69919104
Does Japan even care? Japanese are racist towards chinks, even though they both look the same.

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>>69921034
Bitch, I'm white and I treat my black pup like my own daughter. This fucking asshole needs to grow up.

>> No.69970385

>>69970329
cute dog anon, hope you two see something cool on your next walk

>> No.69970754

>>69917914
Nope. At best they're going to maintain their radio silence and prioritize the sisters and the Japanese fans. At worst they'll use Kyo to launch another attack in the coming months, torpedoing their reputation even further. Either way, the clique and the other sister-favored members will get folded into NijiJP by the end of the year and the rest will graduate or be terminated one by one. They're dead and buried in the west.

>> No.69971333

>>69940255
All it takes is a couple of total retards in important positions for everything to implode. It's what happened to the first company I worked for.
>>69943698
I feel like this is obvious at this point. I firmly believe that that one post just prior to Zaion's termination is real and they're actually that insane.

>> No.69971619

>>69955515
You can't tell me there wasn't a single person following niji shit that wasn't autistic enough to archive it for later use

>> No.69971684

>>69971619
Someone's bound to have something for 'insurance'

>> No.69971876

>>69929940
Anon, (You) didn't actually post the captcha pic.

>> No.69972021

>>69917914
Sadly I fear they may not have learned their lesson. The Niji community seems more aware now, but management will do as they please, what choice do we have as viewers?

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>>69972021
>what choice do we have as viewers?
Not watch.

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>>69957432

>> No.69972915

>>69918062
Pretty sure the current shitshow isn't the first of its kind for them. My guess is they'll continue to be retarded

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>>69919064
>force pozzed far-left politics
Stopped reading right there.

>> No.69973356

>>69935208
To be fair, that last thing didn't come out of nowhere. Even going back to Coco, the way people hinted about Kson was noticeably different from how things were before. Then the Phase Invaders and Riro "it's ky0resu btw, we're pasting this all over our promo material" Ron drove the wedge in further.

>> No.69973421

>>69917914
>Do you think Niji EN will change for the better?
no i don't think they'll change at all
>Or will their talents continue to make nonsensical PR choices?
You think uneducated late teens early 20's people ever make good PR choices?
>I like to believe in happy endings, but its all so tiring right now.
Who fucking cares it's a corpo get over it

>> No.69973458

>>69935417
Seffy....

>> No.69973547

>>69935890
t. le retard de Vox Akuma

>> No.69973607

>>69935777
>>69936060
>>69969404
Isn't this shit illegal? Surely workers have more rights than that?

>> No.69973651

>>69973607
In Japan workers have total say over employers so anyone that thinks that workers just straight up leaving is bad or that companies can just terminate people or end contracts without repercussions is wrong.

>> No.69973744

>>69973106
There's a difference between leftwing politics and Americanized Corporate Bootlicking Leftwing Politics.

>> No.69973841

>>69942571
Nothing he said also precludes "Riku is a fucking idiot"

>> No.69973866

>>69917914
>I like to believe in happy endings
Anon there will be no happy ending. Someone will have to fall on their sword or the entirety of NijiEN does. If they do nothing it'll take about 6 months to a year for this to be memoryholed IF there are no more yabs, even minor ones. Every single yab will open up this wound.

>> No.69974109

>>69938637
>already reached normalfag audiences
>screencap of a vod from a literal who male chuuba

>> No.69974476

>>69943698
KEK

>> No.69974508

>>69944770
What's even the point of doing these suspensions before a termination anyway

>> No.69974592

>>69949687
t. le retard de Vox Akuma

>> No.69974699

>>69967131
Even if they look like that?

>> No.69974706

>>69973866
People need to get the idea of happy endings out of their system in general. It's a fairy tale trope, nothing more. Hell, most real things don't even have a real conclusion at all. Sometimes it's better to simply leave them unsolved and move on.

>> No.69974741

>>69965161
Rosemi, Maria and Vivi deserve support.

>> No.69974745

>>69974699
Not specifically

>> No.69974775

>>69966332
>side with the people who fucked over both of her oshis
Either she's terminally retarded or (You) are

>> No.69974925

>>69942793
Kek

>> No.69975025

>>69935417
Anyone who speaks Japanese is clearly hedging their bets on staying on the JP branch.

>> No.69975082

>>69917914
>Do you think Niji EN will change for the better?
Yes, but significantly? No.
Will their talents continue to make nonsensical PR choices?
Yes

>> No.69975224

I've never really doubted that Nijisanji was horrid a single second. People are only realizing that Vox and Uki are gigantic faggots now, even though they've been the same for years, it's so funny.

>> No.69975460

>>69969404
https://youtu.be/NK0egQbIV9Y?t=210
Timestamp: 3:30 to 4:00

>> No.69975659

>>69975460
Grim

>> No.69976007

>>69919089
The old couple rant was unprompted, had no setup, and no punchline. Absolute psychotic horseshit.

>> No.69976160

>>69974775
>>69826120
There's reason why no more /ttt/ thread was make after her attempt to dunk on the "hater"

>> No.69977195

>>69938719
Blizzard has produced nothing but garbage since Cataclysm.

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>>69921456

>> No.69977747

>>69951203
>Anycolor but we choose black.
>Anycolor but not white.
I can see that as their ad slogan with a deep manly voice similar to that in movie trailers saying it.

>> No.69977853

>>69973106
Looks like Uki

>> No.69981485

>>69917914
hell yeah

>> No.69983773

>>69975460
Damn

>> No.69983894

>>69975460
WTF

>> No.69985096
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69985096

It's been a tough few weeks, hasn't it?

>> No.69985405

>>69961349
holy copium

>> No.69985478

>>69973106
meanwhile in reality:
https://youtu.be/fmO-ziHU_D8?si=l8CqS5AoNO1DbDsh

>> No.69985633

>>69961349
>Going /pol/ is a good plan to avoid drama.

You can’t call yourself a sane being and post this as the same time. Seek help.

>> No.69986642

>>69918062
Until moral improves?

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>>69985096
A couple of months, yes
I don't even know if I still like Elira, the black screen stream could not be more blatant and I already unsubscribed, but part of me refuses to let go her oshi mark on twitter

>> No.69989062

The market opens in a few hours. This is going to be the 1st trading session since a lot of JP found out about Uki's long running saga with wypipo. Does the JP market treat it like an isolated incident? Or do they believe it's a symptom of systemic failures. The morning trading session will be very very interesting.

>> No.69989222

>>69988666
Even if Elira did it, do we actually care?

>> No.69989296

>>69917914

>I like to believe in happy endings, but its all so tiring right now.

then you care too much. let Niji and all their talent crash and burn

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>>69989222
She used to be my second to go, don't wanna watch someone so full of spite, let alone support them. The image I had of her crashing down so fucking hard didn't help at all.

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>>69989489
>life filled with drama
>constant need to scheme and plan
>high stress lifestyle
>but when she's with you she can relax
>but when she's with you she can be soft
>but when she's with you she can laugh
>but when she's with you she feels comfy
When she was with (You) she showed her best and happiest side.

>> No.69989870

>>69988666
>666
Anti-Christ aside, I was open to watching her because a RRAT is a RRAT until proven true, until the black screen happened

>> No.69990007

>>69974775
To be fair, in her case it might be more siding with them for survival and not actual loyalty. Look at her numbers, she won't survive if she gets Zaion'd.

>> No.69990081

>>69985633
>>69985405
>Conveniently close response time.
Either useful idiot or sister

>> No.69991686

>>69990081
>>69985405

>> No.69991863
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69991863

The JP investor comments in the yahoo thread (omega normies) are seemingly placing decisions against buying Anycolor stock due to the racism stuff.

It’s over Nijisisters.

Uki Violeta is truly a liability.

>> No.69991955

>>69991863
It's the same two posts being posted over and over again, stop it with the retarded fanfiction.

>> No.69992047

Tomorrow is the end of the long(-er) JP weekend. Expect more """PR""" in 10-18 hours

>> No.69992146

>>69989062
>Market open in a few hours.

>Anycolor is in Nikkei.
>Been open for a while.
>Title is dropping and it's close to less than 3000 Yen.
>Title was a 3850 before the entire shitstorm,
>Anycolor did a buyback recently meaning they have no way to shift it back or they get pulled off the market.

Wake up, you are missing the show.

>> No.69992181

>>69973607
It'll really be interesting to see if the stock price goes up due to the market's usual unpredictability, or if it'll go down below 3000 yen due to all the bad press NijiEN is having. The branch is important for Anycolor's outside growth, but those plans have basically gone down in flames now due to the nonstop controversy along with the fact that the livers are still pissing off what little viewers/paying viewers they have left.

>> No.69992208 [DELETED] 

>>69992146
>Market open in a few hours
How many?

>> No.69993339

>>69992146
give deets

>> No.69994180

>>69988666
>666
The numbers have spoken, it’s time to drop her anon…

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>>69917914
>Do you think Niji EN will change for the better?
No

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>>69938086
there's some other fun stuff still there

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