/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

>Not a firefly OP

When's the next power couple collab?

>>69886668
Recent clip numbers
>>69816285
>>69816315
>>69816338

>>69885997
>They separated it into 2 acts Afternoon and Evening). There will be a new illustration and merch, meet and greet, and there will also be Livestream of the event that can be purchased.

>>69886700
I want to play shart rail just for this girl, but I don't think I can stand homoyo shit after what they pulled with genshit.

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>45,641: Pekora (Hololive)
>38,479: Miko (Hololive)
>30,458: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>23,420: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>18,714: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,200: Mio (Hololive)
>18,071: Pekora (Hololive)
>16,470: Towa (Hololive)
>13,628: Hinano (VSPO)
>11,946: Nose (VSPO)
>11,723: Nerissa (Hololive)
>11,601: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,462: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,452: Nui (Nijisanji)
>10,829: Furen (Nijisanji)
>10,367: Raden (Hololive)
>10,059: Watame (Hololive)

metal gear activated

*YESTERDAY’S EN TALLY OF THE DAY*
>02/23 TALLY:
11,706: Nerissa (Hololive) | Advent Brunch Collab
11,462: Fauna (Hololive) | Hitman 3 + Announcement
8,809: Baelz (Hololive) | Palworld
7,155: Kiara (Hololive) | Granblue Fantasy: ReLink
5,385: Ina (Hololive) | Granblue Fantasy: ReLink
5,153: Shiori (Hololive) | Cuphead


>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2024
1) Bijou (Hololive) - 23,962 - Palworld
2) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 21,788 - Fuwawa's Birthday
3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 27,322 - Mococo's Birthday
4) Gura (Hololive) - 29,818 - Palworld
5) Bijou (Hololive) - 25,503 - Sekiro
6) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 35,991 - FuwaMoco Morning
7) Ina (Hololive) - 9,219 - Choya Sponsorship/Drawing Stream
8) Dokibird (Indie) - 127,307 - Return Stream
9) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 25,934 - Bread and Fred
10) Dokibird (Indie) - 32,062 - Monetization Celebration
11) Dokibird (Indie) - 31,991 - Lunar New Year Celebration + Fanbase Naming
12) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,763 - Anatomy Lesson w/ Mumei
13) Elira (Nijisanji) - 61,224 - A Message from NIJISANJI EN
14) Dokibird (Indie) - 31,418 - Apex Legends
15) Mumei (Hololive) - 43,311 - Valentine's Day One Hour Hangout
16) Dokibird (Indie) - 28,931 - Batman: Arkham Asylum
17) Dokibird (Indie) - 25,538 - Inside the Backrooms w/ Unnämed
18) Gura (Hololive) - 43,886 - Unarchived Karaoke
19) Baelz (Hololive) - 22,686 - Telephone w/ Nerissa, Hajime, Kobo, Kaela, Miko
20) Fuwamoco (Hololive) - 24,362 - FuwaMoco Morning
21) Dokibird (Indie) - 16,067 - Suck Up
22) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 27,846 - FuwaMoco Morning
23) Nerissa (Hololive) - 11,706 - Advent Brunch Collab

>PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
7x: Indie
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
7x: Dokibird
6x: FuwaMoco
2x: Baelz, Bijou, Gura
1x: Elira, Ina, Mumei, Nerissa

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
48p: FuwaMoco
45p: Dokibird
15p: Bijou, Mumei
12p: Fauna
11p: Baelz, Gura
10p: Ina
9p: Nerissa
6p: Kyo
5p: Elira
4p: IRyS, Mori, Regis
3p: Amelia, Axel
1p: Bettel, Shiori

Newfag here, I didn't realize how bad 2022 was for EN but in the end its seems CGDCT won. So thanks to all the anons who had to go through all the bs. Being and Advent newfag seems like a blessing

>>69886245
>feb 2022 Kronii lost pole position
I guess this is because of Mumei being an anomaly with her sudden Karaoke numbers.

/#/ is a cunny general.

Biboo is the rock of advent.

Everyone knows that fwmc will go out in a blaze of yab and burnout glory at some point. And Nerissa and Shiori are going to be eternally confused as to how they got into hololive, and will probably fuck up a lot. But Biboo will rock on forever.

>>69886766
Boycott soon

>>69886842
Omg sister so true

Sex with Stinky

the boat sinks and a 2 year timeskip happens
there is now an oil rig on the site of the sinking and it's taken over by terrorists

what is even happening

I can smell this thread

>>69886823
How is faufau on top even though she stream less?

I have a dream
Please be true

>>69886916
Buff content

Bros I really want ID to get 3D lives this year.
Anya really, the rest can do whatever

>>69886868
Wait Bae's birthday is literally February 29th?

Rrat?

>>69886822
2022 was really the dark ages for EN, but thankfully ID3 was reviving ID because Kaela was a godsend for us, and Kobo obviously became the biggest vtuber there.

>>69886916
Her content is good.

>>69886879
Nah thats just how pebbles are. They are unironically the new chumbuds but without the actual #s

>>69886941
I want Anyer unmasked 3D

>>69886967
no that's just you posting holo v holo

>>69886941
Based, i cant wait for Ollie's 3D live with the boiz

>>69886822
I miss the Whitebeard poster

>>69886967
Yeah sister totally

>>69886916
Fauna is generally extremely competent at delivering consistent quality

>>69886770
If it gives you any consolation, the writer of the new world is a veteran in the company from the Honkai Impact division who’s renowned for story and their love for yuri, and gave that game its biggest boosts in popularity

Star Rail doesn’t seem to want to fall down the path of Genshit and it shows in pretty much everything they do. Also if you truly want to get into it, next patch is the anniversary patch so it wouldn’t hurt to get in now and enjoy the festivities

>>69886822
You are welcome anon. I almost gave up but Gura and IRyS never Kneeling to the HoloPro acct gave me strenght.

Why the fuck couldn't Kronii just suck up her pride and play the GFE chuba of EN. She's doing it now and my dick is hard. Why are woman so dumb.

>>69887041
ok but is there cunny

>>69886823
When are we gonna get a new update for this chart? Fauna is basically as strong now as she was at debut ever since the YT verification change.

>>69887060
>Mori replied
Yeah, shes aint EN4 member

All the collabs chammers is doing is not making her incline.

oh she's playing as raiden

>>69886668
read this doc, someone did the numbers
https://rentry.org/75xvufdx

>>69887041
>putting ACKeron on Anniversary
You sneaky devil
literally pulling the same move as first Shogun banner
I guess Sparkle is really the Yoimiya of HSR in term of getting shafted

>>69887121
homotrash, don't bother

>>69887113
Her Space while in Japan was PURE SEX. I think it was stuff people feed her.

>>69887143
No schizo Chama no watch

>>69887009
Ok but like have you actually watched a nerissa stream? That girl is confused.

I'm sure she'll figure herself out eventually like mumei did.

1428
https://imgur.com/G4MhL6K.jpg
https://imgur.com/r0i7U2x.jpg
https://imgur.com/6ur2IEI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eNYZL1Q.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ghkoLcX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1SoYAuY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Y0wev4S.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5yQRtDh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ea2JR9N.jpg

tldr
Fauna's new costume is too naughty and grass

>>69886822
2022 didn’t really become awful until like, September hit. The first half of 22 and more was fine because Gura was active and we might’ve had the greatest arc in holo history (season 2 Rust) to enjoy. But once you started seeing everyone burn out and that extending into 23, THAT was bad. The age of grim was a real thing that spanned from October 22 until Advent debuted, really. 1-2 streams a day, low viewership, Fauna needing to hard carry the entire company, Gura being effectively out for 8+ months, everyone’s morale at an all time low. And the worst part is, pleas for EN3 were met by sisters attacking people and telling them to watch Tempus, and that we don’t need EN3.

>>69886916
>>69886939
>>69886953
>>69887028
Hate to break up the circlejerk, but streaming less is not a debuff you retards. It’s literally a buff.

>>69886916
It’s average CCV not hours watched

>>69887161
Yikes, nevermind.

hello i love promise

https://www.ettoday.net/news/20240224/2688449.htm?from=ettoday_app

>Kiara jogging challenge in taiwan cause community commotion and reach international news because of some weird girl throwing eggs at her during the walk.
>after investigation of surveillance camera footages, the perpetrator is caught and it was found out the perpetrator is a male cosplaying as a female. The perpetrator confessed he was her fan and it is a elaborate larp scheme between her and him to gain clout and views.

Kfp status?

>>69887198

>>69886770
I don't see anything special in firefly but they pumped up black swan like GOD DAYUM.

>>69886822
I remember pretty much giving up around August and after the Kronii stuff happened. It did give me a great appreciation for picrel, and I've kind of moved past any sort of ill will towards any other girls

>>69887256
>230
Last samurais, you nippon pass is about to get rescinded

>Can't even beat a premiere from the official channel

>>69886916
Her floor is too high

Questions for # is Aqua a good chuba for future EN to model themselves after?
is this the ultimate representation

>>69887380
making hot hags like Kafka and BS as DoT units is a fucking crime I tell you

https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1761283902235349022
fubs..

>>69886450
Pretty much.
To be fair at their peak Luxiem did pull crazy numbers, and they were competing with HoloEN. Despite the crazy numbers they only won one month during their peak (I think I could be wrong).
Kind of like how despite Salome's crazy debut period Hololive still managed to beat them on the tally, see pick related.
It was mostly because of their popularity in China. The argument was that the weird graphs were caused by china viewers using vpns. Most anons don't really believe that and are very suspicious of China related numbers. Most think it was more likely bots or view farms, but if you want to be neutral, we don't really know for sure.

Their peak didn't last too long before they started reclining pretty consistantly.
After that even during HoloENs worst periods their CCV per stream was higher than NijiEN, who were mostly relying on gimmick/event streams to compete with normal HoloEN streams. Until those weren't enough anymore

>>69887334
Nice try, ettoday journalist. Not checking your article.

>>69887256
someone tell them it's done by a nijisister ennacuck for the purpose of ruining the daily tally

>>69887423
No. Koyori should be the model if anything

Man, every single time one of the girls alludes to the shitshow that happened behind the scenes with Omega I'm more and more thankful that HoloEN was saved and didn't end up like NijiEN.

>>69887143
You think she gives two shits about her numbers? Her and Sora have totally transcended any thought of numbers.

>>69887412
sisters…?

>>69887121
If you’re thinking about cunny like Blue Archive then not exactly
Star Rail has hebes and hags they want you to blow 4 loads a day to.

>>69887121
blue archive

>>69887423
If we had 14 Aquas EN would be unstoppable

>>69887256
>1308
agree lol

>>69887412
Big tail buff

>>69887543
We would get like 1 stream a week, that would be a nightmare.

>>69887256
>1467
I wonder if they realise IRyS and Fauna are the target of the botters hate

>>69886823
It always surprises me how short Kronii's reign was.
I always think of her being number 1 for the first year

>>69887021
We need a Blackbeard poster to even it out.

>>69887334
I'm not going to read that either but uh, is cosplay the right word for a guy dressing as a girl?

>>69887459
I think the only consistent observation of Luxiem's ccv graph is that high chances in neutral streams, especially in gaming streams that's not horror, ccv usually peaked around 15~20 minutes, the retention is really not their strong suit.

>>69887256
>1308
they need to learn the way of the raspberries

>>69887472
Other than her shitty schedule Aqua is the perfect holo

>>69886941
They should all get the opportunity for 1 like everyone else

>>69887412
Just the presence of Gura's big fat tail slapped down Niji en

>>69887423
Wrong question because EN already model themselves after Aqua
>Stream sparsely
>Full of karaoke and FOTM

>>69887500
>Hebes
I like those too. Is there a good amount of em?

>>69887641

https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1761289131978801435

Alright, so Fuwamoco already announced they’re putting fwmc a bit on hold now with holofes coming up. And now they got a big announcement.
Doubt this is 3D related, and there’s no way this is song related since they’re pretty open about releases and have been doing them frequently. Is there ANYTHING that comes to mind here? Maybe fes related?

>>69887590
I think she still had the top peaks in 2022 before the homos but she had those 7k 8k indie slops that fucked her margin and only 1 or 2 karaokes a year to build it back up.

>>69886941
Zeta was in Japan for like 3 weeks and We've yet see anything as a result/ Like Kronii she probably has a 3D live for her anniversary at the end of March

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaBXmjPC3Ec
patra making some cute noises tonight...

>>69887543
Honestly I never understood the hype around Aqua. She gets midling #. Has she actually ever had 100k stream?

>>69887701

>>69887724
they're graduating

>>69887724
Start of their Japan arc maybe? It's been a long time coming.

>>69887256
>1308
This guy is onto something, imagine if anti can conjure up cull on their will. It would be funny to suddenly see 3view FWMC

>>69887616
Has this happened to any other streamer? Usually it’s steady or it slowly rises and then perhaps falls when a big event on stream. But Luxiem just had a peak and a fall. Like the audience wasn’t even interested in what they did. Imagine being so boring they’re only there to jill off to your avatar or voice and then fuck off.

>>69887056
Gura mogged…

>>69887736
Holofags like to hype her up as the nijikiller. She's always been shit though king mogs her

>Mori glitched out the game so the enemy didn’t spawn
>hit the death flag so it had to spawn her and run through the whole map at light speed
Incredible

My beloved

>>69887752

sub 14k vertical karaoke lmfao

>>69887724
(me)
putting fwmc morning on hold***

>>69887616
Oh yeah I forgot about that.
That didn't just hit Luxiem though all of NijiEN would peak in the first 15-20 minutes. The other members would then bleed very hard if no one in Luxiem was in the stream

>「My Dearest」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover) *new*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s
>「DAYBREAK FRONTLINE」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>「名前のない怪物」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>>69887651
Today EN had 11 streams, NijiEN had 5

>>69887256
anyone with more than 2 braincells could tell the botting is malicious

>>69886770
>>69887041
I don't play Genshin, what did they do to it?

>>69887788
It's pretty common depend on contents. But the weird thing with Luxiem is that their graph look like that no matter what content

>>69887724
probably going to japan like biboo
wouldnt surprise me if advent are getting 3d early given how successful they've been and how big fes is

covers modellers probably have some free time right now too

>>69887256
So, the botfag is a seething mikecuck who hates holoEN?

>>69887736
No. Aqua is by far the most overrated JP. She just inflates her average by rarely streaming and only doing FOTM stuff when she does. Nobody would call her first army if she streamed as regularly as Peko and Miko.

>>69887801
Yeah she got destroyed by king in 2022. Holokeks forget that

>>69887133
talents won't know who is joining so that doesn't mean much

>>69887871
she was botted several months ago

>>69887730
ah yeah that makes more sense

>>69887265
Whats fucked is I like every non-blue non-shota member of Tempus to that point just fine the same way I like winning son. I just wouldnt have traded EN3 for it

>>69887863
Homobegging, thus lead to sisters infesting the fanbase just like NijiEN

>>69887041
>Muh
That mf is just as much of a hack as Urobutcher

>>69886728
Today.

Kino graph

>>69887466
Even though they're fellow numberfags, it feels weird to say "yeah because we ignore the CCV of the other big streaming service because the numbers are inflated compared to YouTube, it passed someone off so now they're botting to delegitimize the YouTube numbers and argue both services' CCV are equally inaccurate. ... yes, he is retarded."

>>69887956
A big N.

>>69887724
Rooms background!

Kronii is talking about using Kronies as a chair…

>>69887724
Let me put my rrats off to ya shirt on.
Their role model is Mori, yes?
The announcement actually has nothing to do with FWMC at all. It's actually their RM's announcement. They're trying to siphon viewers.

>>69887962

>>69887922
What's funny is the majority of the fanbase knew they were coming and seemed to be okay with them as well as EN3
What they weren't okay with was them debuting instead of EN3. I think that's where the tide turned with the silent majority of the fanbase. As more and more of them realised that's what happened

Thought?

>>69888013
it should be illegal to post gore

>>69887736
Aqua is one of the old 1st army types that wre gigantic back in the old days like Fubuki or Matsuri. Its just that they leveled off over the years and playing fucktons of Apex absolutely destroys your appeal

>Finished reading the thread
Can anyone tell me why sisters are going after Aqua? What kind of angle is this.

>>69887736
You would know if you were here when she was the first Holo to blew up and end Nijisanji domination on the tally

>>69888024
This is one of the stupidest things I’ve seen and I was here for sold out concerts=bankruptcy

>>69887736
pretty sure she got a 100k stream during the STARTEND apex tournament arc

>>69888024
This thread breeds retards in vats

Number of streams over 100k
>20x :: pekora
>12x :: marine
>10x :: hololive
>9x :: miko
>5x :: chloe, iroha
>4x :: coco, suisei, laplus, koyori,
>3x :: gura, lui, aqua, subaru, ayame
>2x :: rushia, noel, towa, kanata, lamy
>1x :: nene, calliope, amelia, botan, shion, watame, korone, shiori, bijou, nerissa, fuwamoco, ao, kanade, ririka, raden, hajime, haachama

Here is the list
>491342 :: 2021-07-01 :: Coco Graduation (coco)
274885 :: 2023-12-31:: Hololive Countdown Live 2023>2024 (hololive)
>244765 :: 2023-04-16 :: Suipeko Puyopuyo Tetris Tournament (pekora)
>201571 :: 2022-08-31 :: HoloSummer Climax Live (hololive)
>200666 :: 2022-12-31 :: Hololive Countdown Live 2022 > 2023 (hololive)
>194140 :: 2021-05-07 :: Gura Costume reveal (gura)
190301:: 2023-12-31:: Hololive end of the year Variety Show 2023>2024 (hololive)
>187392 :: 2021-12-19 :: Pekora 2nd Costume reveal (pekora)
>180499 :: 2021-11-28 :: Koyori debut (koyori)
>177277 :: 2023-11-13 :: 4th Birthday Showa (marine)
>176697 :: 2021-11-29 :: Chloe debut (chloe)
>175823 :: 2021-11-30 :: Iroha debut (iroha)
>178006 :: 2023-01-02 :: Pekomon Metronome Tourney (pekora)
>167584 :: 2021-11-26 :: La+ debut (laplus)
>167199 :: 2022-11-03 :: Showa songs 3D (marine)
>160017 :: 2023-03-22 :: Suisei 3D Birthday (suisei)
>157990 :: 2022-23-02 :: Gen 3 Rushia termination (pekora)
>157397 :: 2023-07-30 :: 3rd Gen Girls Band 3D (marine)
>149758 :: 2023-07-16 :: Peko24h - Holo Gen3xGen2 Quiz (pekora)
>147899 :: 2022-11-04 :: 3D Return Annoucement (suisei)
>149755 :: 2021-11-27 :: Lui debut (lui)
>148555 :: 2023-08-01 :: Miko 3D Birthday (miko)
>147337 :: 2022-03-31 :: Suisei 3D Birthday (suisei)
>145761 :: 2022-07-30 :: Marine 3D Birthday (marine)
>145305 :: 2020-10-21 :: Miko 3D Return (miko)
>144367 :: 2022-06-27 :: Laplus 3D debut (laplus)
>142855 :: 2023-01-01 :: All Humanity Pekofication Plan (hololive)
>142791 :: 2022-07-17 :: Pekora 3rd Anniversary (pekora)
>142282 :: 2023-01-12 :: Pekora 4th Birthday Live (pekora)
>141898 :: 2022-12-31 :: Yuku Holo Kuru 2022 2023 (hololive)
>140116 :: 2020-10-21 :: Noel Costume reveal (noel)
>139393 :: 2021-07-03 :: Marine 1M Gen3 3DLive (marine)
>139262 :: 2023-01-04 :: Holo Gen3xGamers Quiz (pekora)
>138977 :: 2023-03-05 :: Miko Birthday Live #5 (miko)
>138482 :: 2023-07-17 :: Peko24h - 24SpecialLive3D (pekora)
>137900 :: 2020-10-18 :: Marine Costume reveal (marine)
>137795 :: 2022-06-13 :: Chloe 3D debut (chloe)
>136102 :: 2022-01-12 :: Pekora 3rd Birthday Live (pekora)
>136068 :: 2021-07-29 :: Marine 2nd Costume reveal (marine)
>135527 :: 2021-05-03 :: Mori Costume reveal (calliope)
>134642 :: 2022-11-06 :: FGO Morgan Gacha (pekora)
>129722 :: 2023-10-09 :: Raden debut (raden)
>129528 :: 2020-12-13 :: Pekora Pekomama debut (pekora)
>128811 :: 2023-07-29 :: Bijou debut (bijou)
>127664 :: 2023-11-01 :: Haachama return (haato)
>126480 :: 2021-05-27 :: Subaru Costume reveal (subaru)
>126171 :: 2023-07-29 :: Shiori debut (shiori)
>125917 :: 2022-03-05 :: Miko Birthday Live #4 (miko)
>124725 :: 2023-08-15 :: Dreamy Day 3D Live (aqua)
>124627 :: 2022-06-09 :: Iroha 3D debut (iroha)
>124596 :: 2021-07-30 :: Marine Birthday Live (marine)
>124176 :: 2023-07-17 :: Peko24h - FGOAmb/Tamaguchi (pekora)
>124097 :: 2023-10-09 :: Hajime debut (hajime)
>123926 :: 2020-12-31 :: Hololive New Year's Eve (hololive)
>123105 :: 2023-11-26 :: Laplus 2nd Anniversary 3D (laplus)
>120152 :: 2022-04-17 :: StartEnd Aqua Apex POV (aqua)
>119894 :: 2023-07-30 :: Fuwamoco debut (fuwamoco)
>119493 :: 2020-11-13 :: Gura 2nd Karaoke (gura)
>119225 :: 2022-12-03 :: 2 Million Special 3D (pekora)
>119056 :: 2022-04-27 :: Marine Departure Song’s 3D Concert (marine)
>118912 :: 2021-09-30 :: Coco Freechat Goodbye (coco)
>118899 :: 2022-09-03 :: Ayame 4th Anniversary (ayame)
>117536 :: 2023-05-02 :: GW BOMATS Collab (miko)
>115324 :: 2023-11-15 :: Hololive Physical Strength King (lamy)
>114775 :: 2022-08-01 :: Miko 4th Anniversary (miko)
>113092 :: 2020-08-14 :: Botan Hololive debut (botan)
>112652 :: 2023-11-29 :: Chloe 2nd Anniversary 3D (chloe)
>112194 :: 2022-12-24 :: Sister Marine Christmas Confessions (marine)
>112093 :: 2021-12-11 :: Gura 2nd Costume reveal (gura)
>111617 :: 2023-04-13 :: Korone 4th Anniversary (korone)
>111501 :: 2022-05-28 :: Miko 3D Costume reveal (miko)
>111367 :: 2021-01-31 :: Nene Costume reveal (nene)
>110996 :: 2023-05-06 :: Holo Mario World Cup (pekora)
>110897 :: 2022-11-20 :: Subaru 4th Anniversary (subaru)
110448 :: 2023-12-31 :: Gen 3 NYE Concert Watchalong (pekora)
>110297 :: 2022-11-27 :: Lui 1st Anniversary 3D (lui)
>110230 :: 2023-09-09 :: Kanade debut (kanade)
>110226 :: 2022-12-17 :: New Masked Outfit (pekora)
>110076 :: 2022-05-27 :: Miko WWE Collab (miko)

>>69888028

>>69887724
They're definitely going to Japan but I don't think it's 3D related. I think it's Fes related.
All of Advent need to be in japan together for the group collab if they're going to record 3D. Even if it was for ctw2, they would still need to be together to sing a group song.

I don't think they're moving to Japan yet. It kinda sounds like they don't have their life together to organize a huge move like that yet

>>69888031
Tempoop coupled with the subreddit bullshit was the straw that broke the camel's back. It made even the most neutral Holofan actively despise the homos and their fans for the obvious preferential treatment Cover was giving to those failures.

>>69888067
Nah Aqua still get good Apex numbers, it's just that she retired, there's not much to do anymore
Most First Army are basically at that phase already, since they are so successful there's not much else for them to achieve

>all of Promise got 10k+ except Mumei who was doing an SC reading
Golden gen

>Sisters trying with Aqua bait
Don't bite the bs, just enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bnaBnd4kyU

>>69887256
sister will probably keep doing it even after nijiEN is dead like some revenge, since everything is hololive fault from their perspective

>>69888182
https://youtu.be/vw1Gn9JAxDY
https://youtu.be/vw1Gn9JAxDY
https://youtu.be/vw1Gn9JAxDY

>>69888187
Why Aqua though I don't understand?

>>69886927
>tfw all your gen mates are huge in the front and you're tiny in the back row

>>69888222
She mogs thier king

>>69888054
Context?

>>69888107
>>69888133
Mean comments like these will scare off new blood from the thread.

>>69888154

>>69888152

>>69888221
man i keep watching this every time just for Fauna's reaction to Bae falling, cracks me up

>>69888264
Good.

Bae 3D Live 50k possible?

>>69888300
>homoshit
lol
lmao

>>69888300
Whenever you ask yourself this question, ask yourself this
>Is it in JP primetime?
If yes then yeah it's possible
if not then hell fucking no

>>69887736
>>69888119
People are not aware of the Startend arc I guess

>>69888222
>Grab random big Holo
>"W-we should hate them now because [Random bullshit]"
Classic Nijibro

>>69888300
What timeslot is it in?

>>69888300
>best holo dancer buff
possible

>>69888221
they have power rangers dork energy

>>69888222
Holokek scared king mogs your tin whore

https://twitter.com/inugamikorone/status/1761294238120284517
love my very subtle shilling dog

>>69888221
I haven't rewatched this since seeing it live. Have to say it's good shit

>>69888338
THE INFAMOUS SUSHI STREAM

>>69888031
The thing was, I don’t think anyone expected the total 180 Vesper had in his stay. Newfags and retards here might not know this or memory hole it but the dude on debut spoke very highly of hololive (hololive the female group, not that shitty hololive productions thing sisters love to talk about) and basically flat out said that he doesn’t want to paint a bad image on those that made vtubing what it is today. He was a retard but it came off like he was just an old dork who needed some control.

But holy fuck after the worms collab arc it was nonstop pushing of mixed gender collabs and his behavior was very reminiscent to that of someone drunk. Just clearly different to that of their normal self, was way too outspoken and wild, and that shit fucked his entire career up. And then he pulled the giga faggotry of a lifetime by skipping both Tempus’ 6 month and 1 year anniversary despite going DA BOYZ I LOVE THESE DUDES MAN the entire time

>>69888152
Jeez!

>>69888300
she lost to fauna during anni lives... and she had more jp mems than everyone else

>Kronii gets raided
>AGAIN

What the fuck, are they that desperate to boost Kronii's numbers?

>>69888222
probably because she is a whore and is botted

>>69888338
Conspiracy theory: Gura got the sushiro sponsorship after Aqua mogged her with the sushiro sushi stream to prove to her oshi that she can get one too.

>>69888396
Oh I just checked, her vod is gonna pass Mumei soon which is neat

bro fighting his inner cuckold

What does phase need to do to improve their numbers?

>>69888300
What's her 3D showcase numbers?

>>69888408
whoever streams the latest gets the most raids

>>69888300
In theory, sure. Probably not from what we've seen though
Depends who streams before it to funnel raid into it I suppose. They still need more regular events like this to build the EN event box

>>69886822
>I didn't realize how bad 2022 was for EN but in the end its seems CGDCT won
Honestly, the only way things could have gone better for EN would be if selen successfully killed herself. It's been pretty smooth sailing so far this year, holochads and CGDCT have been winning hard.

>>69887724
Merch. I go into every announcement stream expecting it to be merch.

>>69888434
Tempus collab

>>69888300
Yeah, and it'll peak during Roberu and Shien's part. I hope you're smart enough to understand sarcasm.

>>69888300
I just checked, she's streaming two hours past her normal slot which is still NA hours so not it's not possible

>>69888462
Didnt they get that already

>>69888422
yikes, im glad nijiEN is dead

>>69888221
I know I'm going to get flayed alive for saying this in /whouurys2/ but these girls are dorks. You cannot convince me otherwise.

>>69888462
Bro see announcement and immediately think of Tempus, insane mindshare right there

>>69888450
Clever clock lady

>>69888273

>>69888152
Iroha is that strong?

>>69888500
Mumei calls Fauna adorkable. Its a positive thing

Do sisters just throw a dart at a board, for which holo their going to shit on? Why Aqua?

>>69886822
baes doing her damnedest to ruin it though

>>69888376
Guy got high on his own supply of farts in the end.

>>69886450
EN wasn't really dying yet until late 2022 summer
There were cracks showing before then, such as EN MC dying off, trinity gradually reducing their streaming time, Kronii embracing her inner debuff, Sana proving to be a mishire, etc.
Yet they were outweighed by buffs, including first off-collabs, holocure, holorust, Sana's graduation, events like holofes and holosummer
Heck even the new homos were a temporary buff
That all came to an end soon after Gura's first 3D live, and we entered the era of GRIM
Fortunately luxiem was also reclining by then

>>69888031
Since Vshojo and NijiEN were already destroyed by male collabs, fans were more willing to get mad once they saw that the HoloEN girls were getting sidelined for males.

>>69888545
Mumei is not beating the lesbian allegations

>>69888479
And they get a lot of ccv for it. PhaseCHAD love homo.

>>69888520

>>69888580
So, by (you)r estimate, how are we (as in, us Holochads), how are we doing now?

>>69886822
Even Kronii admitted 2022 was fucking horrendous all around, there's clips out there if you want to check.
I still remember December 2022 vividly, and how tone deaf management was debuting Tempoop in January. Anons here were right, Tempoop's debut was designed to be like that, management knew the girls would be busy preparing Holofes in Japan and there would be a void in content, this is their guard rail. Management wants us to watch the homos REALLY BAD.

>>69888615

>>69888468

>>69888152
>>69888538
One of my favorite stats from this thread is Iroha's 5x 100k+ streams
You just wouldn't expect it

>>69888031
Them existing was never the problem. Them being tacked on loosely to the Hololive brand via Holopro and having people like omega riling up the beggars has caused irreparable damage to the silent majority and homofans. If they acted like the completely seperate projects they are from the start even debuting when they did wouldn't have been an issue.
Now we have the looming problem of them potentionally taking up studio time, all while they fast track more and more of these shitters. That is the biggest long term issue they need to solve, preferably by having the homostars fund themselves. Renting a seperate studio and having their own events should be the default rather than taking from Hololive.

>>69888675
Who's the girl on the left?

>>69888434
vshojo collab with ironlung

>>69888648
They genuinely massively underestimated the barrier stopping people from watching homos thanks to all the virtue signalling from fans trying to pretend they were normal people to their oshis
They really thought that 'oh if they're starved of content like a thirsty man in a desert, they'll overcome their inhibitions and get into the habit of watching them'

>>69888376
idk but the rumor is he and blue faggot were always arguing, he hurled abuse at staff, and he did creepy stuff like try to get into Cover's studio while HoloEN were there without informing management. He seemed to have acquired a lot of malice.

>>69888434
Phase x dokibird

>>69888376
>Nonstop pushing of mixed gender collabs
There were less than one a month. Never fails to make me laugh how much fucking retards exaggerated and continue to exaggerate this shit.

>>69888434
This is going to sound crazy, but I think they should sell coffee.

>>69888648
Ive never been convince they just LVOED THE HOMOS i think it was Omega trying to cash in on Nijis "success" with Chinese fujos combined with trying to write his own story. Just like the faggot that made 3 fucking final fantasy games about his Cloud knockoff wifu Omega wanted to do his own story after they struck down whatever the fuck machine translated bullshit he originally tried to do with Council

>inviting homos on your 3D live during this CGDCT era
What the fuck hakos baelz?!

>>69888648
So is it safe to say, even if Myth and Council had bigger # Advent is the most important thing to ever happen to EN?

>>69888775
She was never CGDCT, she was always focused on being an idol

>>69886728
EN4 will have a lesbian couple channel.

>>69888748
Why lie?

>>69888716
https://youtu.be/IKKar5SS29E?si=wUla8fhB3n3CAW7V&t=261

>>69887945
Doesn't really count since it's all of gen3.

>>69888813

>>69888675

>>69888775
Ugh, which filthy male scum is ruining Dreamcatcher?

>>69888755
So their is a good chance that one faggots bs almost tanked the whole branch?

>>69888625
Obviously the most buff periods of EN were after the debuts
Myth of course stands out here with mythmania still lingering by the time CouncilRyS debuted
Council and Advent post-debut periods were roughly on par with each other (though Advent's was shorter because of the lack of a buff sandbox game and a mostly AWOL Gura not embracing them like she did with half of Council)
We're currently about a step below that

>>69888625
now, we're going strong and improving ever since Advent. that's if you consider holo en in isolation though. If you consider them to the market, the biggest competition in Niji En is officially dead so it's a monopoly

>>69888434

>>69888648
This conversation has had me looking back at my folder and man some of the stuff from that time really is interesting in hindsight

>>69888755
I feel so lucky being an Advent newfag. Thanks for the fight anons

>sekuhara

Announcement in 5 minutes

>>69888814
There is no lie. After the WORMS collab there was one Bae collab and 6 SQUAD collabs. During a 8 month duration. Thats less than one per month. That was the extent of Vesper's "nonstop collabs" with holoEN.

>Mogs iry's entire music career
>Higher overall channel views
>Bae daily sub gain 917
>Irys daily sub gain 171
>Has a birthday lvie before irys
>cucks iryskeks by making irys dance on stage with holostars jp
Bae just can't stop winning

>>69888452
Nah, if she successfully an heroed then she's not around to tell her story and there'd be the chance that niji manages to sweep things under the rug and/or milk it for sympathy points while pretending it's not their fault.
I guarantee you that if he got the chance le retard would weep crocodile tears about how nobody noticed her problems until it was too late and then milk it for another suicide prevention stream because that fucker has zero shame and the rest of them would be little better
Doki living guaranteed that niji's dirty laundry gets aired and her drama buffs will wear off soon enough and she'll settle down to being a middling 4view at best that can be generally ignored, which I'll take over the risk that niji manages to profit off of it

>>69888713
This was the reason Shinove graduated too, probably the biggest lost for homos

>>69888434
Dissolve.

>>69888964
Here have some Mogu faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6P_m6adkgc

>>69888966
My eyes are always attracted to Fauna and Mumei for some reason, as if they just seem to drift and stay there

>>69888960
Astel graduation

>>69888919
>tfw phase overlap ban just for the cucker™ and ollie

>>69889061
Well it's for the right price, phase girl inside the Hololive walled garden is so worth the overlap ban

>>69888787
They were very long overdue, the branch was in desperate need of more people. I wouldn't say most important, but in a way yeah.
All three gens now seem to have firmly established what the branch culture and direction is like. The success of Advent compared to the previous year and the rest of the En scene likely means it will stay this way to

Wherer is the announcement?

kek

>>69889015
Chloe for me

>>69889145
haha funny kys go back retard

>>69888787
Uh no Myth is obviously the most important thing to happen to holoEN, even if their numbers aren't the greatest now
Advent was very important though

>>69888787
Well, no definitely not lol but that depends on where you stick your goalposts at.

If you want to use holoENs existence as a whole, the sum of all its parts, nothing will ever compare to Myth. In fact, there’s a legitimate argument to be made that Myth are the most important thing to happen in the history of vtubung. They literally exploded in popularity and caused THE ENTIRE WORLD to put vtubers on notice, and are directly and indirectly responsible for people’s careers being made from their existence.

Now, if you want to change the goalposts to “additions to EN post-myth debut” then yes you can argue Advent are the most important, most defining moment in holoEN history because it marked a turning point in the entire branch. Promise are amazing but everyone can tell they rode the coattails of Myth and just sorta carved out their fanbases through that. Advent seems to have brought an entirely new fanbase that’s gotten involved with holoEN now and these girls are beyond active, and providing fans with all the love and attention they could desire. They’ve brought an entirely new dynamic to EN and revitalized the careers of some members

>>69888952
You and me both, brother.

>>69888960
Suck my cock.

>>69887543
>>69887736
That's essentially 14 Guras, averaging a total of 2-3 streams per day
There would be a lack of stream time but damn would those streams be buff af

>>69888713
The branch now have investor breathing down their neck, if they do as you say, Yagoo will no longer be able to shield them using the girls anymore as they are a clear different agency

>>69888755
I think they just fundamentally did not grasp that filthy gaijins have their own form of tatemae. Just because everyone you see talking about it claims they 'like' the holostars doesn't mean they actually like them

>>69889228
meant to reply to >>69887586

>>69886822
december 22 and january 23 were insabely bad between hiatuses, jp arcs to push recordings for fes/ctw (that was the first time so they called the whole branch without giving PC setups) days with 0 streams scheduled with maybe 1 guerrilla at unholy hours from the girls in JP, mumei and Kiara on record pushing through sickness to stream because they felt bad for the fans.
All of this while the faggots being coddled by beggars and management, homoen getting another debut because flygon was this incredible talent that deserved a whole ass new wave. It was so fucking bad.

I guess it's safe to sleep for a bit. I doubt Mumei will do anything this late.

>>69889233
Yagoo already told investors that he ain't kowtowing to their shit and being profit hungry like Nijisanji.

>>69888396
Shouldn’t have made half of it that shit ass boardgame

>>69889312
>I doubt Mumei will do anything this late.
she already streamed and has her outfit tomorrow, so goto bed

>>69889233
Shouldn't have hired them then.
Thank to Cover's genius strategy of using hololive to advertise homostars the fanbases is now locked in a constant invisible cold war.

>>69888787
since Myth, everything since vtubing should be since Myth. This board wouldn't be what it is, without myth

>>69886941
I mean unless Reiner foot the bill I think only Kaela can afford one?

>>69889013
I'm sorry your washed up vsinger could only get 13k on a unarchived vertical karaoke

People were thinking, since NijiEN is collapsing, who is going to hire all the desperate indies now? Someone is going to fill that void.
I think Hololive should open up a new branch for this purpose. Something separate from the main branch, mostly used for a ragtag collection of hired-indies who hope to enter the main branch one day.

If Hololive doesn't move into that space, someone else will, and they could one day become a competitor to Holo. It would be wise if Holo becomes the Agario monster that eats the shattered meal, not letting someone else do it.

mogochan...

>>69889282
State religion

>>69889340
This board literally would not exist without Gura.

>>69889380
>P-please save the Niji

they retweeted the thing

>>69889367
Stop talking about Enna and her sub 10k birthday karaoke…

Gura's exposed shark thighs are too erotic

Advent babies will never know the true depths of grim

I'm sure someone noticed Kronii tonight mentioning the much more severe conflict with management in the past that led to significant changes behind the scenes, and how she's been happy for the past year since then, but that she couldn't even begin to go into any kind of detail.

I'd love to know one day just how bad it got behind the scenes and what went down that none of us have ever even heard a hint of.

>>69889441

>>69889438
Good

>>69889380
Idol's CEO just let out that they have more talents soon to debut than their current roster. So there are more than 12 talents set to debut under Idol in the next 8 months or so.

>>69889380
>If Hololive doesn't move into that space, someone else will
Hololive is the whole industry, indies are just streamers with avatars they don't share the same market.

>>69889380
>Hololive should open up a new branch for this
Holo Refugees Gen 1
She1ter

>>69888755
I mean imagine how much clout you’d get, the kind of opportunities and bonuses you’d get if you were the one to make HoloStars work.

It's funny how Holos currently have nonstop "BIG NEWS!", "BIG ANNOUNCEMENT!" for February while Niji is floundering around and trying to clap back at twitter morons.

>>69889380
>bro, why doesn't cover just do their own vta, clearly it worked so well for anycolor

>>69886926
dream big, chumbud
just don't get section 100 seats since those are the worst

>>69889380
great idea anon, lets ACCELERATE the branch form bunch of toxic clique like kurosanji

>>69889458
I dropped holoEN when tempiss deput and only came back for Advent.

>>69889458
I don't want to, thanks for your fight soldier.

>>69889460
Gura reactivated some old account.

Literally that bad.

>>69889206
I was a holofag from before Myth was even announced but I kinda just vaguely bounced around between various girls because non were really able to keep my interest in the long term. It took Advent making their debut for me to finally find an oshi (pic related) and actually progress to buying a membership (day one, never dropping) and start buying merch and becoming a more dedicated holofan in general
Myth is basically the µ's of holo en. They are the legends that blazed a trail for the others to follow and nothing will ever erase the fact that they were the first and everyone else wouldn't be able to be here without them. I was never able to stick with any of them long enough to oshi them but I will always respect them for that

>>69889440
sub 15k karaoke anniversary stream couldn't even beat ironmouse's or shylily's anniversary streams last year lol

>>69888813
Isn’t that FWMC?

>>69888989
Think about how much that guy gave to the JP homos only to have all that goodwill and effort shit on by some random foreign dudes and the company actively encouraging them being dipshits. However many years he helped starsJP was flushed down the drain. I would fucking quit too, Omega and whoever the fuck else reset their progress to zero and now we're back to square one of people hating those fags. Myself included. Fuck all of them. It didn't help that the JP guys themselves aren't saints. Aurruan is a stupid asshole, Astel is menhera, Roberu is basically all by himself and is effectively an indie (which ironically, distancing himself from holostars entirely is the best thing to happen to any of them) and the entirety of homoEN are just a different breed of jackass altogether. The dino faggot really shows you the kind of guy they love to hire.

>>69889489
kek

>>69889460
>Dumb anon Needed Kronii to spoonfeed him know what /#/ ALWAYS knew
RoRumao KeKmao

>>69889460
Omega got fired and probably his people too, that's it really

>>69889458
Advent baby here, glad I don't have to

ESL thread

>Ennanigger's status?

>>69889517
That was grim day

>>69889460
I think there’s truth surrounding the rrat that holoEN had a meeting with Yagoo&co about the state of the branch and got management fired/changed. Well, the meeting DID happen but no one knows what happened. But ever since that meeting, things in holoEN took a complete turn for the better.
I still believe to this day holoEN management were malicious. How they managed to stifle and ruin the careers of the girls responsible for one of the biggest vtuber booms in history is beyond me

>>69889458
Glad i used to watch jp and id only at that time(timezone issue with EN)
Grim

>>69889508
same I wouldm't be watching if wasnt for Jap, still kept the gura member because she batlantly stood against the homos and nijification

Fauna doesn't deserve to be a Holo. She does not deserve to be called an idol. All she cares about is lining her pockets. She's a full on grifter. You have Bae working her ass off, actually doing 3D lives, actually releasing music, actually streaming, and then there's Fauna who's just a lazy cunt not doing anything. Whore isn't even streaming tomorrow to "prepare" despite only streaming 10 times and we're on day 24; 2 full weeks of no streams. Absolutely pathetic and abhorrent behavior. She is not an idol, she is someone larping as one to get money off retards.

>>69889460
Tbf Kronii was shit talking her old manager as soon as she got a new one in late 2022. This happened a bit before Omega left though

Still, it's insanely obvious that everyone, especially Council, hated Omega. When have you ever heard HoloEN members be willing to make fun of staff members on stream since then? That's how much they hated him

>>69889598
I remember how the hottest thread of that day was
>HOW BAD DID YOU HAVE TO BE TO LOSE THE BIGGEST VTUBER EVER?

yaaawn
ironmouse daily sub gain 951
vs
irys who primarily uses yt 117 sub gains

>>69889517
Good thing she pulled that out to dunk on those shit management. That was a very good threat.

>>69889604
Nah, Mori is still going strong. Nothing was ruined.

>>69889533
Of course we all knew and have known, just that every time a talent references it outright I start thinking about it again.

>>69889553
Sure, but there had to have been some pretty significant behind-the-scenes events or conflicts that would lead to that. My own department had a similar story where the only thing that led to atrocious, egotistical upper management being fired was more than half the team leaving at once forcing decisionmakers to actually look at the situation.

I'd just love to hear some of those stories some day, whatever they are.

DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>69889517
Honestly I thought it was over at that point, but glad she was able to flex a bit

>>69889380
>desperate indies
So you mean the exact same pool Hololive already hires from.
FWMC-Indie
Bijou-Indie
Nerissa-Indie with failed attempt at making a group
Shiori-arguably rose off than indie

>>69888545
I invented that word back in 2020, called Nene that in a SC.

>>69889604
And that same management had been there since EN was created, I wonder if Cover was really clueless and dunno what foreigner like back then

>>69886666
>>69886666
>>69886666

>>69889458
Wish there was a timeline of all the major and minor happenings from tempiss debuts to today. Flashpoints in the invisible war so to speak

>>69889567
i mean, with kyo gone she has to find and ride a cock somewhere

>>69889496
Well to a certain extent the industry as a whole is kept alive by indies. If you removed all the indies you remove all the growth in the industry. It could hurt Hololive too. Just as a logger replants trees so he has more wood to cut next year, Hololive should give back to the greater vtubing community

>>69887334
KEK

>>69889663

>>69889663
Banger tweet from Chammers

>>69889531
I mean you can look at their CCV and see despite all the sucking off Shinove they stood still through the entire period he was in charge.

>>69886822
I don't miss those years, holy fuck.

>>69889598
Is rock bottom grim? Or is it the start of a beautiful future?

If Gura hadn't been like "this isn't a threat it's a promise." Who knows what would have happened.

>>69889380
>since NijiEN is collapsing, who is going to hire all the desperate indies now?
Idol, apparently.
Also, NijiEN. Don't be surprised when they keep accelerating out new waves. There's plenty of people who think they're special and will be the one to make it work

>>69889604
I mean, think about it. You're management, on the ground floor of a multimillion dollar boom but you're just watching it go past you. You're not lifting a finger and these girls are just exploding in subs, views and everything. Before long someone is going to ask why the fuck you're even being paid, and it's not like your pay is very high. You should be getting more. Much more.
So you try to insert yourself in the middle to get some of what you rightfully deserve, and then inexplicably they start tumbling. If only it weren't for those damn irrational antis and unicorns!

>>69889660
Mori was vocal in her opinions of managements failure and actively mocked Omega as a wannabe A-Chan you don’t watch her.

>>69889726
In a way he also coddled them more than they deserved, but at least he didn’t let them leech

>>69889678
>it was over because of a roommate tweet
Please tell me this is a false flag and you're not actually so fucking ignorant to think this?

>>69888737
>try to get into Cover's studio while HoloEN were there without informing management
sauce on this?

>>69889685
>They suggested we found a EN branch and look how well it worked! Clearly we don’t need to be too over controlling they know what they’re doing

>>69889676
Imagine the SNIFF

>>69888922
Yeah that shit was absolutely disgusting
Imagine if they spent that budget on ads for struggling EN music like nijis are always doing
Or better yet, used that budget for the official EN channel which was practically dead during 2022

>>69889798
Nta but
That point is literally the lowest point in HoloEN
And mousey literally stand by to pouch her into vshoujo

>>69889521
Well that’s thing too. That’s what retarded sisters and people like /vyt/ didn’t understand or grasp. People (like you) exist in the background waiting for that new gen to come out so they find a means to enter the community. It’s hard for people to get involved when hololive is built from the inside and its jokes are strictly jokes that only holo fans would get. How are people ever supposed to enter the fandom if they have nothing to jumpstart that?
That’s why EN3 was so necessary. Because not even just old fans, but PEOPLE in general were waiting 2 fucking years to hop in and truly find happiness in being part of something exciting like a holo debut. Idk if you follow twitter but you can see through Novelites for instance how much they truly adore that girl. It’s like, you see that but don’t see that either. They live post and tweet their merch and make stories and music for her and that’s just something that wouldn’t exist without Advent -finally- debuting. Retards unironically thought you could last forever on 10 girls where 7 of them are battered, bruised and broken down shells of their former self being burnt out from work

>>69889517
>Uh Oh
Management sweated buckets that day. Even Iron Lung and all the internet was thinking she'd returned or might quit Hololive

>>69889531
I miss that dude like you wouldn't believe
Perms shit was never the same after he left

>>69889770
I agree with what you said there. I disagree with the hyperbole that "careers were ruined".

I mandela effected myself into thinking that Bae's greeting phrase is "ohako"

>>69889811
Vesper complained to members about not being let into the Cover studio and not being able to get his meds in Japan.

>>69889685
Omega was Enma, the original EN manager. He spear headed the idea behind Myth but ultimately all he really did was get lucky with casting. Still though, from JP's perspective they thought this guy was a genius rockstar. It took the girls themselves meeting with Yagoo for things to turn around.

>>69889861
alternate timeline bro...

>>69889848
Ironlung was happy for a moment there, she thought she could leech her

>>69889604
Yagoo is a proven saviorfag. You think he got pissed when he heard what the EN girls were going through?

>>69889798
also NTA but it's Gura who had abandoned her RM for a long time, suddenly came back to tweet something when holoEN was hitting rock bottom, it was during her long hiatus too. That shit was scary. And of course a bunch of vshojo and indie drones came in for some clout in the replies

>>69889855
I mean were they profitable actually? Or was Shinove just way better at working through internal bureaucracy and weaselling funds from upper management for custom merch and full branch concerts that couldn’t sell out 1000 seats and train ads and limos for UPROAR?

>>69886822
Enjoy it while it lasts. Your time will come when they get 3d and start having to do idol reps and homework