/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

it's scary how elira appeared so innocent in public

You made all that up in your head retard

>>69838852
I wonder what really happened to her. Does she not have a moral compass?

>>69839070
Elira please go

>>69839009
She was always the queen bee in that company's branch, who else but her that got so many organs hired? It wouldn't even surprise me if she was behind the pivot away from a male fanbase into a female fanbase with the faggots either

>>69839070
literally from the leaks, retard

I still find it funny how Ike is the only one of the 3 to walk away from that stream completely unaffected
Literally no one even remembers he was in the stream or cares

>>69838852
Also from the niji insider

>Elira took a FAT SHIT on Selen's Boneless Meal Deal from Wingstop™ and made her cry. Then all of Nijisanji got together and took a piss on her while singing Last Cup of Coffee at her off key.

You come off like a fucking unsocialized retard if you believe any of this super villain shit

>>69838852
If you're going to pretend at least make it juicy.

>>69839225
Yo there's new leak? Where are they?

>>69839225
I would ask for proof of these leaks but I know you won't show anything at fucking all

>>69839328
>israel
holy shit

>>69839400
>>69839403
>>69839328
I am now believing this is either Nijisanji staff or Elira and her gang.

My life is in danger now

>>69839495
>Ask for proof of your claim
>"NIJI STAFF IS IN THREADS NOW OH NO NO NO"
...So I assume there's no proof then

>>69839495
Yea bro Vox here. I can confirm its all true I watched the shit come out of Elira's ass myself. Right into the Wingstop ranch.

>>69839495
Yo better spill the bean, the corpo assassin is on your route rn.

>>69839589
>>69839609
Someone please contact my loved ones, the Nijisanji squad will come for me now.
I have upset them deeply...
You dastardly demons, you won't escape this.

>>69839238
Management did approve the announcement, but Elira and Vox went off script thus fucking it up. That's why Ike sounded nervous like he didn't want to be there anymore. Ike knew they fucked up and wanted to leave as soon as possible. That is why Ike's statements were sort and irrelevant. Ike was going to follow the script as planned but once Elira and Vox were off script he shorted his part, wanting to leave. And it worked he is unaffected.

>>69839400
>>69839403
>>69839589
not him but guys there's literally a thread about it

>>69839153
Everything I have been able to dig up about her former life, suggests she is a standard backstabber. Lots of people claiming she betrayed them in different ways.

Good luck with that Nijikeks

The sole reason I don’t buy the GURRAT is, a corpo can be greedy but they can’t be that stupid, so much that it grants a girl with a conflict of interest practically an absolute power… right?

>>69840241
Hard to find someone willing to do the work for 8 bucks per hour.

>>69838852
Entertainers have come back from murdering, human trafficking and raping people, as long as they provided some entertainment.
Being painted as a conniving asshole could be appealing to some, if played right.
If the public accepts these claims, I don't know if she can just come back as the "soft, aloof, dorky and happy Elira" though.

>>69840241
Did you not see the job postings for anykara?
They are paying $7 an hour for tardwrangling and for lawyers

>>69840241
all it takes is ownership being too cheap to hire an adult to run things, failure of imagination from some dumb ceo or executive that shit could get this bad when you shove a bunch performers on a boat with no captain.

>>69839328
>Elira took a FAT SHIT
H-Hot

>>69840241
My own headcanon is that they allowed Elira to favor herself on events and merch, while raising people of her choice. But that there is no grand scheme or embezzlement, it is just Niji accepting giving Elira more so that she is a useful asset to the company (she has been tard-wrangling talent and managing their EN paypig fans).

>>69840448
She will come back after manager-san and his corpo bosses have their way with her for a bit then her fans can have the leftovers.

>>69840241
>a corpo can be greedy but they can’t be that stupid
JP nijisanji has been pissing away their mid-top livers for 2 years as well, because they don't budge on that greed.
Their finances only make sense if they under fund EVERYTHING except their top 20-30 livers. They're acting stupid on purpose, thinking it won't be that bad.

>>69840177
The worst one might be Pomu walking away from NijiEN not realizing that she's been backstabbed multiple times.

>>69838852
If you're not a total social retard you can pick up on subtle clues and the overall feeling of whether a vtuber is genuine or fake. I'm not just talking about natural vs. staged voice, but the actual personality. I gave everyone at nijien a chance when I came across them, and Elira, Enna and Reimu gave me red flag vibe pretty much instantly.
Having watched some clips of Elira's PL recently only confirms the feeling I had about her.

>>69840882
>Selen lying on the floor, coughing and bleeding out
>Pomu hunched over her, asking herself how this could have happened
>Elira behind Pomu with a bloody knife, ready to strike again.

>>69839828
I saw the thread but the op pic is the worst formatted piece of collage I've ever seen on this website and my brain refuse to read it.

>>69840448
she'll come back as some evil queen sitting on a throne and do all the bad bitch kpop covers - the kino potteries itself

>>69840992
More like
>Elira is beating Selen to a bloody pulp
>Pomu witnesses it but says nothing
>Pomu then walks over to Selen and says "T-The weather is nice, huh?"

>>69838852
Mocca was right

>>69840992
It's more like pomu walks out of the door with her back stabbed full of knifes.

>>69840448
just redebut as a hot evil femdom chuuba. it's that easy.

>>69839009
this, i honestly had no idea and thought she was a nice girl. my judge of character is absolute shit lmao

>>69838852
>The persona of Elira presented on the stream is entirely staged.
Nigga, literally EVERYONE who's met Elira stated this, on stream, numerous times.

>>69841111
> A actual villain group
HoloX BTFO

>>69841246
>Nigga, literally EVERYONE who's met Elira stated this, on stream, numerous times.

No they didn't

>>69840882
Yes, and when you know Pomu - and how passionate she is, how emotional she gets because she cares? Well that just adds extra insult to grievous injury.

Nijisanji viewers should be ashamed, I am.

Did Pomu really pay for Elira's Antartica trip? That's fucked up it true, but I can't find a timestamp.

>>69841170
Yeah, but it wouldn't look as good.

>>69841292
>Trying to be spoonfed
Do your own reps.

>>69841325
Just a rrat

>>69841325
No indication she did, otherwise she would have paid for Finana's instead.

>>69841325
It wouldn't surprise me. Popular streamers do that for their less successful friends all the time. Not too long ago Numi talked about how she paid for Tricky's trip over to her because she couldn't afford it.

Pomu paid for the ticket but was under the impression it was one way.

>>69842013
Yeah I have done this too for a friend. He was having some trouble landing a job, and I just funded the rest of his expenses for the trip. You wanna experience life with the people you care about after all, not just pinch decimals on an account.

I do not feel ripped off or anything, we had fun !

>>69838852
>How is Elira supposed to come back after this?
sisters don't know this and don't care about it.

>>69842488
this exactly if you can afford it there's no reason not to even if its something where the friendship bitters over the years the important thing is the good memories in the moment

Leaker here, Elira just sat on my face and ripped the stinkiest fart imaginable, just spent the past couple hours huffing it up, shit was so cash

What if Elira can't get fired because she is in bed with someone in a high position, has info(blackmail) that could damage Anycolor, or is involved in a greater scheme? This would explain why she seems so untouchable.

>>69843037
She is unironically too ugly to do that

>>69838852
>So from the Niji insider
So from my ass

>>69843136
Okay but what about
>has info(blackmail) that could damage Anycolor
>involved in a greater scheme

>>69843136
>elira was seething that both finana and pomu are more attractive than her

>>69838852
>cartoon villain Ceo
>cartoon villain livers
Can't make this shit up

>>69843037
I don't think she was involved with someone high up beforehand but she's definitely getting railed at the moment by them

>>69838852
Not a Nijitroon but
>Vtubers are actresses playing a character
No fucking shit.

>>69843266
Women are petty backstabbers. She absolute sabotaged them.

>>69838852
I thought her being evil and shit was just a rrat but this is making my dick hard. But fuck this bitch for killing off Pomu

How come Nina flew to hang out with Pomu and not Dookie?

>>69843136
>implying that's an issue
If I had a penny for every ugly whore that climbed high the ladder by opening her legs during the last 5 years I worked at a corpo, I'd have pennies.

Ugly ones are more desperate, more unhinged because they can't rely on their looks to pass. In the worst case one of them got herself pregnant just to secure herself. She even admitted it herself.

>>69843037 (me)
>>69843136
>>69843266
Ogey, so Elria is ugly what if used someone else like Millie or Enna to sleep with someone in a high position (if Millie or Enna are also ugly then this part of the rrat is dead.) even so about the info(blackmail) and/or involved in a greater scheme?

>>69843855
>WHAT!!! MATARA/NINA DIDN'T HAVE HOT STEAMY LESBIAN SEX WITH DOKI???? SHE LITERALLY HATES HER!!!!

>>69841111
>do all the bad bitch kpop covers
Been there, done that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo8z3_bu1Bg

>>69839328
It's true, I was Enna's piss

>>69843855
If she internalized the bullying, she may still think of the bullies as friend and resent Selen for "hurting" them.

>>69844075
BRAVO KOJIMA
R
A
V
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>>69839009
it's what woman are good at

>>69839070
Sister allergic to reading?

>>69843913
Millie and Enna are hideous

>>69844075
better mv than last cup of coffee that dookie died for.

>>69839328
Eliraaaaaaaa stopppp doxxxing urselfffff

>>69841292
They did. Even complete bootlickers like Shu said multiple times about how Elira is completely different in person, "so loud", for example - while the on-stream Elira is known for being barely audible most of the time.

>>69843913
I mean you've got
>Hafu who's probably still overweight and has acne/birth marks(?) on her face
>Fat flip the size of Jabba the Hutt
>Angry anorexic pedophilic chink who got homicidal tendencies (her head is literally a soccer ball)
Anon I don't know who of them would be in some exec's bed but I'm putting all my money on Ewiwa.

>>69843416
She took to the role quite literally.
>>69833696

>>69838852
I love Doki, and have hated Niji for over a year now, but I would break knees kneeling if Elira came back as a cold, heartless bitch and, admitted to bullying Doki, and said that she'd do it again.

>>69838852
this wasn't there in the leaks kek
probably Millie trying to misdirect

>>69843855
Guilty conscience

>>69839225
stop lying
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/text/elira%20cunning%20transformed/

>>69844312
Yeah I saw the pictures, no wonder they are such hostile people. Ugly women who take it to heart, become as bitter as unfuckable men, in the face of something like that.

>>69840502
Wait til you find out that the original head of EN management couldn't even talk or understand english. Guy had to learn the language just for EN and complained on Twitter cause he doesn't get how to use english articles like "a".

>>69844656
>>69835162

>>69844384
And according to Enna, during fights Elira do not use vulgar language, but still she can be very hurtful. So she probably goes for a more psychological angle.

>>69843037
considering she was EN management liaison I'm guessing she's basically like Gerri from succession in how much shit she knows

>>69844856
I was there for that thread retard, I even made a compilation. There was nothing like what OP said

>>69844864
Didn't she do that when she had her Fauna moment during the Vesperia stream?
What was it?
>You guys do know we arent friends, right? I mean, I ACTUALLY LOVE YOU GUYS but you are really weird with this.

I cant recall the exact words, someone would have to dig it up.
I do know some of her loyal fans even called out her behaviour there and Elira even responded to some comment acknowledging she was out of line.

>>69839238
Because Ike pretty much said nothing of substance. His water bottle had more impact than any of his words.

>>69838852
Fucking hell I went to bed right as the nyfco thread died. What on earth did I wake up to?

>>69839328
I believe that this actually happened, but it happened figuratively.

>Elira cockblocked Selen's special project thing, then had all the nijjers tell her she sucks

The guilty cannot help but confess.

>>69838852
Are you threatening me Master Pomu?

Weren't you fags all spamming about a "Big announcement" that's supposed to happen today?
Well? Where is it?

>>69839328
Selen was always vocal about wanting a sanrio/hello kitty collab. This did kind of piss off dragoons almost as much as pomudachis when pomu wasn't chosen for a metal gear collab

>>69843037
It's not about being untouchable, it's about a lack of caring

>>69845992
i assume you mean this

people will fall for anything

>>69839328
I wish Elira would make me cry

>>69839009
>t. never interacted with a woman
you should watch a prison doc, men usually use violence to control, while women use emotional manipulation

>>69838852
I never watched Elira much since I found her boring. Then again, I think all boring people are secretly evil.

>>69839009
instinctively I could not masturbate to her. my dick knew

>>69839009
>innocent
NO
The "not my friends thing" was clear and incontrovertible proof she is a cunt. All of the subhuman simps on this board who keep "believing" in a woman's staged personality after she goes mask off are the actual 'scary' people because i have to share a planet with you delusional dipshits.

Fuck, queen bitch went to the south pole with Pomu, was Pomu in on it? Is she drumming up grassroots support?

>>69839153
She's said on a stream before she used to have anger issues. In addition in discussions about her failure to turn her liberal arts degree into a career after college, she has stated it's "not her fault". There are some people who get degrees in, say, biology and then realize "oh shit, not all stem degrees actually make bank, guess I'm fucked!" but everyone knows that easy liberal arts bullshit like whatever elira majored in doesn't make bank.

Elira always had the "it's not MY fault" streak. That's the kind of person who will absolutely ruin the lives of people around them, all the while insisting it can never be her fault no matter what she does, because she has already rejected the concept of ever being responsible for her own life.

>>69846254
I don't know anything about this "leaker" shit I just say people spamming about an announcement in generals but I knew it'd be nothing

>>69839238
Swedes are irrelevant. Elira is a bitch/queen bee and Vox is a child molester like Jared from subway. Ike is just a worthless Scandinavian nerd.

>>69846623
They actually went to South Pole Moloch Altar bringing remains of Vox's underage victims as offer.
But their branch shaman has same retardation issues as managers (and lawyers), he messed up dates - offering failed, so whole shit spilled.

>>69845992
There was a whole thread with an insider answering questions dude.... Which is what this thread plays off. Go to the achieve of find the screenshots that are circulating anon.

Niji's have to wait up to a year to leave, after giving notice. The absolute state of Riku's gulag.

>>69846695
>liberal arts degree into a career

>>69846399
Actually evil people are often very entertaining. But the masks they wear to blend in, are intentionally bland. Just FYI

>>69840241
The only translators you have are high schoolers working for minimum wage that haven't been with the company for even half as long as Elira has worked there, and a barely more than half her age. Then add Sempai culture. Of course you're going to depend on Elira for nearly everything, even if she speaks the slightest bit of Japanese.

And, unlike most corpos, this one is more stupid than greedy. They fired someone offering to resign, FFS, while also exposing the possibility of internal harassment to the world. No sane company does shit like this, and they especially don't publicly slander their #1 liver as she's removed from the company, knowing it would come to light that she just had a suicide attempt. And top it off, they did it all TWICE, while throwing their talents to the wolves both times.

They are so evil and malicious as to be fiscally suicidal. That sounds a lot more like the actions of a clique with the emotional maturity of high schoolers than the actions of a billion dollar company with actual PR management.

Even I can't fully swallow the GURRAT, but clearly some degree of "inmates running the asylum" is going on over there. There's no other logical explanation for this shit. The paniced comms thing fell apart when they pulled the black box stream a week later - not that the two are really incompatible.

>>69846885
Her career is being a cunt.

>>69846695
It is called narcissism, and she has been accused of being one, by several people on her PL.

She is a snake, that much is clear.

>>69846695
>Liberal Arts Degree into a Career
I went to college before Elira was even out of elementary school, and LA degrees were a complete meme THEN.
There's no way she actually thought she'd turn one into something viable. She's gotta be from money.

>>69846979
Different kind of evil.

>>69847061
>They fired someone offering to resign, FFS, while also exposing the possibility of internal harassment to the world. No sane company does shit like this, and they especially don't publicly slander their #1 liver as she's removed from the company, knowing it would come to light that she just had a suicide attempt. And top it off, they did it all TWICE, while throwing their talents to the wolves both times.

And this is what tells me Elira was probably coached hard on not doing that shit again. That was her showing her hand, by trying to sabotage someone she bullied into suicide - trying to move on.

Tells you everything you need to know about her, about the talents that support her, and about Nijisanji as a business / workplace.

>>69838852
>Hires spiteful fatherless BPD tumblreinas for their overseas sidebranch
>Overseas sidebranch burns down due to spiteful fatherless BPD tumblreinas being spiteful fatherless BPD tumblreinas
Nijisanji feels like a parody

>>69846556
The design is hot but that's the end.
It's like garbage put into a anime girl shaped bag. It looks nice but it's nothing more than trash bag which people want to have as their parasocial wife.

>>69838852
>Elira puts on a facade of being a friendly girl but is actually a cunning and blunt woman behind the scenes.
That's kinda hot ngl. Gives me mafia boss vibes.

>>69840448
>Being painted as a conniving asshole could be appealing to some, if played right.
I think anon is onto something, but it'd be hard to turnabout when her current audience is comprised mostly of people who want comfy JRPG streams. She has to completely eject and replace them without the algorithm fucking her over.

>>69839153
Of course not.
She's a woman, which automatically discards the possibility, and on top of that she's Asian, which means she has no soul.
She just let her facade slip. It could happen to any of them, but I suspect most will be extra careful after this.

>>69846183
Also, Selen expressed a desire to have a collab with either keyboards or PC cases. Then "big gamers" Elira, Enna, and Rosemi get case deals with Hyte?

Really makes you wonder if they knew something behind the scenes with how fast they were to drop the Niji deal and get in contact with Doki after her termination.

>>69841131
qrd on this mocca shit?

>>69848042
>Then "big gamers" Elira, Enna, and Rosemi get case deals with Hyte?
Probably confirms Rosemi is closer to the clique than most people suspect.

>>69843855
Because, and we knew this already, Nina aligned with the clique and still aligns with the clique. She visited them after she graduated. She is a mean bitch, she always was a mean bitch if you saw her RM

>>69848193
So, you're saying Pomu is part of the clique? Well she was BFFEs with Elira and has a history of being a bully, so I believe it.

>>69846695
>>69847071
I believ it

>>69843855
>>69844603
>>69848193
>>69848317
Or you know, she's been in Japan this whole time and same with Pomu so they decided to meet and that's it
Stop being retarded

>>69848317
>and has a history of being a bully
Pomu? I know that Elira has a history of being a bully but I don't know anything about Pomu. Care to share?

>>69839009
Sociopaths do be like that

>>69848317
I would call her, just like Rosemi, a satellite/tributary. Someone in the friend group that doesnt actively bully but stand at best silent with the group

>>69848181
100% she is not innocent in this, and relayed Elira's blacked screen attempt to sabotage Doki's stream (they aired it RIGHT when she went live, to sabotage her coming back as Doki).

>>69846623
if pomu was in on it she wouldnt cry over denied opportunities and quit

>>69838852
That's kinda hot, she should embrace it and become the heel of vtubing

>>69848394
Pomu sided neutralish when Millie and Elira started shit with Mocca way back when. Neutralish as in "I'll politely state my position as anti-moccas opinion and stay friends with the bullies"

>>69848394
His proof is that he made it up in his head to shit on Pomu anon

>>69844527
They are an entertainment company after all. This is their out, this is how they come back. Become the recurring cartoon villains they were meant to be.

>>69839009
I mean, I guess that makes sense though. My dad was an abusive narc inside home but absolutely personable and nice outside.

>>69848400
So basically this bitch from Silent Voice?

>>69847238
Holy fuck Elira's clique had extensive coaching time because they were the main actors to how much this ruined stonks. As a result, they were told to shut up and learn from hired PR. Will they do it? That's up to them and not the consultants. This is never going to change, you Nijikeks are so over because they WILL wreck havoc until they get replaced in a few months. Ugly...

>>69848555
Basically yeah, and it depends on the person on how evil you think that behaviour is

>>69848365
Pomu was not in Japan whilst in NijiEN. You don't know what she did behind the scenes during her time in Niji.
>>69848490
Should've threadwatched harder. There's a reason no one liked her in /co/ and got her shit leaked in KF.

>>69848719

>>69848719
*/cgl/, my bad

>>69848719
retard

>>69848555
It was impressive how by the end of the movie I was able to forgive Ueno, while it took me some time to forgive Miki. That movie really was amazing.

>>69848792
>>69848757
>No arguments
I'll accept your defeat

>>69848798
>That movie really was amazing.
i still think that its severely underappreciated

>>69848570
It was over when it was revealed how much Riku was planning to pay the manager. No one is staying in those positions long term for 8 fucking dollars an hour.

There’s nothing more annoying than faggot larpers.

>>69840241
>Corpo can't be that stupid
Oh you sweet fucking summer child. Try to participate more in workplace politics and you'll see how stupid management can be.

>>69846695
>failure to turn her liberal arts degree into a career
>liberal arts degree
>arts degree
Wait, I've read this script before...

>>69849205
>Wait, I've read this script before...

>>69848918
Yeah I was thinking the same. Getting a manager, but not really getting a manager. Mostly just performative.

I do believe they spend some money and time getting PR and Legal to coach them tho, this was needed. Time will tell if it fixes anything tho.

>>69849205
Lets see;
>Comes from money
>Sloppy and fat
>Always blames others
>Plays manipulative games
>Track record of betraying people

What could go wrong with this person in charge?

>>69847071
>by several people on her PL
Such as? Genuine question since I only know about the fall out between PL Elira + Millie and Mocca.

>>69846695
Post stream and timestamp.
>>69847131
The woman who was doing a masters and owns a grand piano is from money? Never would have guessed.
But to be honest she definitely seemed the type who kind of did work but didn't really do much to earn it as opposed to someone like Pomu who's very average in comparison

>>69846695
>liberal arts degree
Oh, this explains 99.99% of everything

Pomu using Elira's name in her Hellfire karaoke hits different now

>>69839009
this is why I never believed all the stuff about her being a queen bee or clique member because she seemed so nice compared to someone like Enna. But turns out she might be the worst one.

>>69849789
It's literally
>Elira's clique
and the common theme for all clique members is that they are Elira's friends except for Enna's boyfriend, but this one had to leave Niji as well by now.
How did noone see that Elira was the Big Bad all the time?
Especially since she was management's favourite to a degree to which the only rational explanation could be that she fucks the manager(s)?

>>69838852
>trust me bro, I'm not a larper
kill yourself

>>69848394
Pomu has a history on /cgl/ bro not just her dumb /b/omu shit
she basically cheated her way into getting multiple free Japan trips and getting into some idol group

>>69848918
Wait, what the fuck. I thought only the part-time translator position, ideally trilingual, was paid that badly.

>>69850165
Leave her name out of your filthy faggot mouth

>>69850291
Sisters are really trying their hardest to lie and move the conversation along. Shameless grifters, with fans to match their vile behavior.

>>69850186
Nah, that was the thing that got big on the catalog, but several days before that some anons found out they were looking for "content curator" for the same pay. I think it's safe to say that anyone in lower management (the people that deal with talent on a day-to-day basis)) is paid shit.

>>69849789
Seems you never worked a day in an office. You always get those nice types that later talk shit behind your back.

>>69850433
>content curator
isn't that literally what they made people in VTA do for NijiJP organs?

>>69849205
Oh no... is there a chance Elira will grow a unique mustache too?

>>69838852
>>69839009
you guys didn't pay attention when she was drunk asf and dive bombed her stream into pomu's collab and wouldn't stfu? she called pomu weird. she was always a bitch.

Would you say Elira is a case of acute liver disease, chronic liver disease, liver cirrose, or liver cancer?

>>69839238
Who is Ike again?

>>69850722
I called my friends weird sometimes, anon. Am I a bitch?

>>69850883
Kind of, yeah

>>69850883
You don't get what I'm trying to say. It came off as malicious since Pomu wen quiet the whole time after that was said until she left the discord chat.

>>69839009
Everyone tried to warn you guys when she was out partying every night in Japan despite claiming to be an incel virgin. Literally just Enna, but Enna is at least kind enough to let everyone know she's a dishonest bitch.

>>69847313
>>spiteful fatherless BPD tumblreinas
This is what confuses me the most as to how most anons are still shocked to hear Elira being a cunt when it's already been proven she was an avid Tumblr user in the past. Anyone who was there during their mass exodus to Twitter/Pixiv, or their war with /b/ and /pol/ would know how much of a shithole that place was, and for it to influence its user base to be insufferable would be no surprise.

>>69851002
Sorry went*
Freaking typo.

>>69851060
That place is what twitter is now. Since they all came to freaking twitter and just ruined the place beyond repair. If twitter/X goes down they will shit up some other place.

>>69850722
Can you post the link to the stream in question?

>>69843855
Because they're not friends? Mumei and Gumi are Selen's friends. She had no friends in Nijisanji by all indication and tried to just do her own thing

>>69850883
do you do it at their job, in front of a 4figure audience while there is a massive powerimbalance cause youve the power to fuck her over so you know she cant say anything back?
if yes then Ive some news for you anon...

>>69848089
Mocca said some shit about how you should really prepare and think out your collab and pray for a bit of luck too on twitter then Elira, millie, etc dogpiled on him on gigabitch mode saying Millie's debut was all skill and he kinda stopped collabing with that circle.

>>69851060
>war with /b/ and /pol/
After all these years she still keeps losing to Anon and just won't learn KEK

>>69850643
I'm not that familiar with VTA.

>>69851240
Well no, it's mostly at like a bar over a beer, but I get your point.

>>69851263
It is sad when you think about it. Maybe if she put down the fork and stopped being a malicious person, she would feel better.

But then again, that is not who she is.

>>69850824
Even worse anon, she has a case of the Nijisanjis

>>69851247
>think out your collab
NTA but it was your debut
And the funny thing is that Millie went all out on her debut after this drama

>>69851203
oh I remember this one. It was the drunk phasmo iirc. She kept trying to ask Rosemi about twerking, Pomu booted her from the call because she was being dumb and taking up too much time in the stream, and then Elira removed Pomu's mod powers in the discord because she was the server owner and then went in anyways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdiPPv879UI
At the time it was a cute stream gimmick since they were still so new and seemed close, but in hindsight, it's a big red flag...

>>69848798
Ueno is the best girl

>>69851301
its different in private, my best friend calls me a retarded insane junkie girl and I call her a fucking autist. no hard feelings on that either.

>>69838852
Why is she like this? What went wrong in her life?

>>69838852
>backstabs selen, her lore sister
kinda sad desu

>>69848525
Serves you right, druggie scum

it's okay, doki is happier than ever and free to say/do anything now. maybe it all worked out for the best.

>>69851431
Yep that's the one.

>>69851431
Yea, it was funny asf at the time (I was laughing so hard I could hardly breathe). But looking back now...damn.

>>69838852
>>69839009
literally how
you don't even need to believe she some sociopathic bitch behind a mask to realize that she (just like most vtubers/internet personalities) are people playing a role, acting out a persona on camera and in public. of fucking course they're different when the camera is off and its time to discuss business.

>>69840448
>Entertainers have come back [...] as long as they provided some entertainment.
Well good thing Elira is highly entertaining then! So entertaining and beloved that her merch outsold Pom- Oh... Well so beloved she had more subs than Sel- Oh.........

>>69851550
>druggie scum
Weird accusation to make on a weaving board dedicated to e-girls pretending to be anime girls but ok. I'm just a nerd virgin.

>>69851283
IIRC there were some accusation in the past the the people in VTA need to do background work and stuff like clipping for NijiJP organs. Didn't look too deep into it at the time though.
(Probably means that the JP is actually run in a similar SNAFU way)

>>69851431
indeed the power of hindsight is the path to much knowledge some would consider unnatural.
Never forget pussy popping.

>>69851431
holy shit that looks so bad in hindsight

>>69838852

>>69851343
>stopped being malicious
That's another thing. In 2011 /pol/ was not very large as a board. What fed the 4chan boards like /pol/, /b/, /v/ and /r9k/ were these types of women who decided on their own to read radical feminist texts and decided men were the enemy. They picked a fight for no reason and created a massive backlash. Wouldn't be surprised in another 10-15 years if we have women physically caged in prisons for being too uppity. If you act like shit for no reason, expect to get hit. But then again women are raised with the expectation no one will be violent to them and there will be consequences, while men learn early not to fuck around (or die). Women like elira are merely getting their just desserts from being ridiculously anti-social for no reason at all.

>>69851608
Explain Kiara then

>>69848042
>>69846183
>Then the cancelling of tournament and no longer allowing to organize.
>Then the not allowing to host self funded fan event
>Then the song, which was already approved a year ago and was self funded, was made hidden cause it need more approval.
The manager were actively tring to choke her out of nijisanji and all they say is she can quit any time she like

>>69851220
Pomu and rosemi were supposedly her friends. She wasn't 'enemies' with elira, at least until the end when she started to realize how elira and enna had fucked her over.

>>69851661
>>69848525
Did he mean narc as in "narcissist"? Or narc as in "narcotics agent"?

>>69851637
Elira can't even outsell Enna. Maybe if she went hard on the bitchy character she might move more units.

>>69851843
sometimes they go full retard

>>69851903
Narc means narcissist.

>>69851903
I assumed narcotics agent kek

>>69851608
They didn't mean it like that, you slow idiots. They were saying that she appeared sinister during VC.

Being cunning is something NEGATIVE, it's not something you want to act out at all, when means you're deceiving other people

>>69850722
Pomu is a weird doormat who will take pretty much anything, which is why she got psyopped into becoming permanently pettan despite her great booba. But elira is evil, since pomu was never anything but good to her.

>>69851982
kek oh that explain the druggie comment. My bad anon, I should not have abbreviated it.

>>69851847
Wasn't there something like graduations count but not terminations? It was on some niji document and that would explain it.

>>69851903
who the fuck assumes narc is narcissist? besides women

>>69851982
She do be glowing tho

>>69852057
people who deal more with narcissists than narcotics.

>>69851969
First time seeing it abbreviated like that
>>69852035
Dont worry anon, I am ESL so for a moment I thought "oh shit I might be retarded"

>>69851903
narc is a snitch

>>69852057
For professional reasons I go a lot to online spaces that talk about mental health, not so much places that talk about drugs though.

>>69846183
Also Ike got Cinnamonroll instead of Pomu despite Ike being a useless faggot and Pomu liking Cinnamonroll.

Nevermind NDF sister posters, if you squint hard enough you can almost make out the talent posts in real time lmao.
I fully understand now why people say "I hope she doesn't post /here/"

>>69852195
Depends on the context. It can also mean narcisist, such as Vox or Elria, when talking about personality disorders.

>>69852274
Would it have a hard c or a soft c?

>>69852336
I've never heard anyone saying that out loud, only informally in text, but in my mind I say it with the hard c.

I like how no one ever talks about the times elira gets high as fuck on stream. Her "I am really sleepy" streams are some of the funniest shit I have seen. I don't know the rest of them but one of them happened in one of the Vesperia streams and it took about 4 hours for her to be normal.

Everyone trying to paint Pomu as another one of Elira's victims, but they still went to Antarctica together just a couple of months ago. I don't think she had any negative feelings toward Elira at all.

>>69851431
I feel like an absolute schizo, because now I can't watch these funny moments without going crazy paranoid in the head.

>>69838852
Even if Elira is a duplicitous snake behind the scenes, she's already lost, there is nothing Elira can do to hurt Doki, and Doki holds all the cards to destroy Elira and her clique.
The only, ONLY thing Elira has going for her is Doki is a saint and even after Elria's black screen smear job, Doki is still willing to move on from NijiEN and Elira.

But unless Elira isn't terminated or new management keeps her in a choke chain, I have no doubt she'll still try and go after Doki even if the public at large fully supports Doki and NijiEN's reputation crashes and burns.

>>69839781
what makes you even think that they recorded this all together at the same time? it's entirely possible that they each recorded their own portions separately and it was edited into one larger video.

>>69839781
It was exactly 15 minutes and there's no chat acknowledgement. It was very likely pre-recorded.

>>69851283
To add to what anon said, VTA was NijiJP's own talent bootcamp for homegrown vtuber. Quite a few of their more recent waves come from there, but it was shut down not too long ago since a huge chunk of their newcomers were actually breaching a number of rules, including NDA.

>>69852982
>accepting breach of NDA a termination reason
Looking at it in hindsight....

>>69850165
I came to say this also. Dig deep enough and pomu's hands aren't clean if drama either.

>>69851608
Damn guess Irys is a total bitch too...

Elira started her own indie vtuber group hanamori in her PL, so if you think she was a bitch in Nijisanji it only makes sense everyone would have hated her there when she was an indie too, right?

I think there's a lot of evidence that she's a leader/organizer, but most people who have worked with her in the past have stayed good friends with her. If having good friends is proof of cliques/bullying, that's a really sad world that we've come to.

Keep in mind that doki did say there were a lot of innocent/uninvolved people caught in this mess.

>>69850165
QRD on /b/omu? I must've missed that day and never figured out what it was

>>69853277
Elira having remaining good friends with some coworkers while also bullying/gatekeeping Selen/others is not mutually exclusive. Someone does have to be a shitty person to everyone, they can be perfectly loving and caring for some, and absolutely shitty to others.

>>69838852
What can we do to sabotage their PR initiatives?

>>69851431
Aww fuck no. I kinda felt a little uncomfortable at the time because Pomu seemed like she didn't want to run with the joke fully. I should have trusted my instincts.

>>69853277
In a big group there will always be disagreements. Always. It just happens.
What happens when you're the de facto leader and you have your own biases?
The same people always get shafted whether right or wrong. That's what happens.

So if Elira announces a no-graduation graduation then what

>>69851431
There's a lot of vods and clips that were cute and funny at the time, but are kinda nightmarish now:
https://youtu.be/jMD6OmV1fpc

>>69851903
>>69852057
Im an opioid addict, and ive never seen anyone use narc for narcotics outside, Idk american shows when theyre referencing the DEA or some taskforce doing something, is narc used as narcotics in the US druggiescene? Ive only ever seen outsiders use it that way.

Imo selen is just fat and all of the niji girls are hot. She got so self-conscious about it and has trauma about popular girls from high school that she thinks the same way about beautiful women as uki feels about white people. A random cute girl says hi to her and she's convinced that they're making fun of her.

>>69852763
It's not schizo. Get pricked by a rose and you'll never forget to be careful the next time. And even further into life, it doesn't hurt anymore from all the callouses you'll grow. It goes with all aspects of life

>>69850093
Being from the first wave, it's likely that management leaned on her for help at the beginning. This kind of backfired since they continued to lean on her more and more as a stopgap measure, instead of spending money to hire competent management for the branch.

>>69848317
>>69848394
>>69848477
>>69850165
>Pointing the finger at Pomu
Reminder:
https://youtu.be/BpAIgtdOBxk

Why the fuck does this retarded sister shit get 250 posts dorya?

>>69853504
Of course, I just think it's ironic and sad that the one person who goes out of her way to try to build groups and include new people in projects is the one who gets attacked in the end (even without a specific accusation from doki). There's a lot of evidence from the big off-collabs in which Wilson and other new members talk about who was the nicest to them when they first joined.

>>69853872
Imagine being jealous of a bitch who's face looks like a map of the continental USA

>>69854006
remember_what_they_took_from_you.jpg

The reality is that there doesn't need to have been any bullying outside of a few isolated incidents (Nina and "pals") for this entire mess to have happened. All there needed to be was favoritism and mismanagement. Even Elira's extremely imbalanced number of merch/sponsorship opportunities can be explained away as having been payment for taking on liaison work. Selen could also be naturally left out and sidelined because management didn't like her temperament and she kept to herself outside of running events. The trio give off mean girls energy, but that's about it.

>>69838852
She should just get out of vtubing and go kill puppies instead or something.

>>69854012
Move aside faggot, we're discussing the Q&A.

>>69839403
this anon gets it.

do you fuckwads have any ability to copy a URL and paste it? here....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65VwnQvWW4

you lame niggggeros. how hard was that?????

>>69839009
This is how you play a character/keyfabe.

>>69854006
use a timestamp, I'm not watching 13 minutes of selen's fake laugh

>>69839238
Who?

>>69839238
Helps that he was the only one who wasn't being an outright malignant asshole with zero prompting (Vox) or doing the worst fake cry I have ever heard (Elira). That alone convinced me Elira is a piece of shit. Everyone already knew Vox was a terrible person who only ever virtue signals

>>69854050
It's a matter of responsibility. If you're at the top (even if you didn't want it), you're not supposed to accuse the ones at the bottom over shit they did because ultimately their fault is yours.
You can of course be exonerated if the person you're in charge of was malicious or what not, but only if you handle it appropriately.
And if it were, we wouldn't be here.

So we are all assuming she's the bully because she was named in Selen's document?

>>69853701
That is really rough. I wonder if most people have been in a sitaution like that where people are trying to make you do something you don't like and laughing at you for doing it, but also if you actaully firmly say no you're ruining the vibe. This is exactly what bullying is like between women too. It turns the entire room against you, in a way you and everyone can feel unmistakably and there's no possible move for you. If you play along it's pathetic and you'll feel like you should have stood up for yourself every time you remember it. But if you do refuse and turn it into a whole thing you're going to just be excluded entirely for being crazy and overreacting to a joke.

>>69853701
This clip makes Elira look good because she was the only one saying she didn't have to

>>69853277
>Elira started her own indie vtuber group
If you start your own shit, it only stands to reason that you get to decide who is part of your group, yes? So of course they're all going to be friends and remain friendly after she moves to Niji.

Then Elira gets to Nijisanji and behold! While she has some influence to get her friends hired, some other non-friends get hired and fuck up her idea of what the group should be. She starts being bitchy to 'outsiders' and her friend clique takes hold.

If she didn't consider you a threat, then of course you'll be ok with her.

>>69838852
At least she is smart enough to know she needs to hide better now. Expect her to really tune up the ''NIJI FAMILY'' shit, to try and escape the stink.

>>69848317

>>69854628
No. It's because nobody who is innocent makes a video like the black stream unprompted. We also know she's historically a bully based on PL behavior. She also has publicly received heavy favoritism. Her nepo hires from her PL are all well known as having bullied other livers in Niji, as well as having been trash along with Elira in PL

>>69854755
to be fair being a manipulative bitch is just normal woman behavior

>>69854199
anon, youre naive, uninformed, or pushing an agenda. this isnt about highschool bullying, this is about selen being bullied by management. bullying is actually the wrong word, it was a lot more than mean words, thats the whole point. Elira behaved terribly multiple times on stream, her posts in late december on twatter were absolutely unhinged too. The termination notice sounded personal as well. two leakers that have generally been reliable most of the time confirmed that shes management or rather shadowmanagement, kyo made comments in that direction during his graduation stream as well. And the blackstream on Eliras channel is obviously the nail in the coffin.
Though I do think anons should give her slightly more credit when talking about her motivations for that stream, I dont believe her goal was to change public opinion directly, doubt she was that stupid. The stream was directed at doki because all three of them are named in the HR complaint, and they were fucking scared of actually getting sued, doki messing up the case by saying something dumb wouldve been their ticket out of the issue. And it had to be Elira of course, Enna Millie and Reimus reputation was already shot.

>>69854595
She's not in charge of people though. Socially speaking, she's the Ame of NijiEN and does a lot behind the scene to pull people together. It used to be Nina who did most of that but ever since she left, Elira filled that role.

IMO I think the main reason she was chosen for that black box stream is because she's so well connected with vtubers outside of Nijisanji. She just has a lot of credibility (before this incident), and she has so many indie friends IMO it's the main reason why so many indie vtubers haven't spoken out about the incident despite the fact that signal boosting doki is bound to be good for PR.

>>69854939
You misunderstood what I was saying. I was referring to the events leading up to the termination. Everything during/after the termination reeks of personal grudges so I agree with you

>>69854657
That's part of my problem with the GURRAT, though I think there's definitely some "lunatics running the asylum" going on, as it's the only explanation for much of this shit... Elira, while definitely the managerial type, has pretty much only ever mediated in any given conflict. Could be she's fulfilling the wishes of the bullies beneath her, but could also be that she's just very self conscious about her image in mixed/public company.

>>69854826
Being the manipulative bitch, is the equivalent of being the physically abusive male bully. Sure there are degrees, big difference between an intimidating shove and kicking someone after you've beat them to the ground. But we can certainly see that she is at the high end of being manipulative, for her to act the way she has.

So she is closer to the guy kicking his victim, after they get them to the ground. Than say, the woman who say a spiteful remark to get under your skin.

>>69839238
It is a blessing for Ike to be part of Luxium and ride that popularity wave because without Luxium, Ike is a nobody. The deep tone fart I ripped in the gym today elicited more reactions than Ike gets in his own streams.

>>69853701
You could really tell Elira was the bull- wait, it's exactly the opposite and she was the only one trying not to force her to do it. Totally the evil mastermind behind it all.

I actually have a screenshot aformentioned leaks, larp or leak, you choose your poison, anons

>>69855042
so your argument was that before that stream, it wasnt obvious for outsiders because there was reasonable doubt and there were worse offenders in the other 3 so Elira (mostly) seemed like the lesser evil, maybe bitchy or a narc at most?
if I understood you correctly now, I apologize for earlier and I agree. I didnt have her on the radar either.

>>69854941
I think she has more credibility WITHIN Niji than you give her credit for. A lot of people trust her and with basically non-existent management, she just becames the mediator because someone needs to fill that role and who else?
You said Nina filled that role but yeah, she's gone, and with how isolated she was from the rest of Ethyria, if anything that doesn't say good things about Elira. Wouldn't she also be somewhat ostracized?
Unless she's less competent than Nina at managing and let people do too much shit they shouldn't get away with. Not sure if we want to go there.

The only possible way I could see Elira being cleared of this is if the reason she was specifically mentioning her city was because the three of them live nearby, thus making a dox on one of them a dox on all of them.
Fat chance, though.

So she didn't actually have a dog that died did she?

>>69855277
This is the one anon. I fucked up the stitching on that one.

>>69855319
>because the three of them live nearby
uh, yes? that's well known

>>69854159
Remember, it doesn't matter that they never got to say goodbye, because they know they'll meet again one day.

>>69855277
Some anon dropped a darkmode version too, figured I would add this in. Cheers Anon and good weekend.

>>69838852
>The persona of Elira presented on the stream is entirely staged.
I hope Niji dies, and Elira is stuck becoming an onahole for Yakuza loansharks.
But a streamer acts differently away from stream? No shit.

>>69839009
It's like a princess who is beloved by everyone but commits crimes such as ordering to exterminate entire villages under the premise of divine punishment... I'm reading too much manga.

>>69855277
>>69855390
What lack of free healthcare does to a mf

>>69855423
Yeah, but the only possible friendly interpretation of that is that ONLY millie or enna or millie and enna were implicated and not her, but she mentioned the location because all three were there anyways and more victims = more pity points.
But like I said, unlikely, sadly.

>>69855575
Nah I'm just retarded.

>>69855518
I don't think pomu is gonna become an hero any time soon, anon

>>69853872
>nijigirls
>hot
Brother none of them are better than a hard 6 on their best day

>>69839238
>Umm... hi... ummm...
>*drinks water*
>ummm I'm... ummm... Ike
>please...don't harrass anybody
I wonder why nobody cares.

>>69839209
someone explain the "organs" meme to me

>>69855658
I mean the author of the image, not whatever the fuck you messed up, I'm not reading that shit

>>69855312
No, she definitely has way more credibility outside of Nijisanji. The entire vsinger side of vtubing is very well connected with her, whether that's ex-Tsunderia, Shxto, ex-PRISM, etc. The music vtuber community is a very collaboration heavy community and you can't get far at all by being shitty to people.

Doki, on the other hand is a primarily FPS player. She really isn't really known by most indie vtubers and likewise why she's trying so hard to network right now. From a networking perspective, doki just has far fewer friends.

>>69855739
What's a liver?

>>69838852
OP, you just explained normal woman behavior. It's not some magical or special thing that only elira does

>>69838852
She cannot really come back. This is gonna be a permanent stain, and will come back to haunt her, every time she gets exposure to a wider audience (and people bring it up, show images and links ect.).

She is really fucked, because anti's, schizos and disgruntled fans have long memories - and nothing good to do with their time, now that they ruined being a NijiEN viewer. I hope she gets stalked and harassed for this shit, until she tries to KYS. That would be karma.

>>69855813
What are you even talking about? That's not the subject. Are you high?

>>69855827
alright that's a good one, carry on

>>69855887
nobody will give a fuck in a few weeks
people have done way, way worse than this alleged high school bullshit and people just stopped giving a fuck eventually

>>69855827
a talent that niji hasn't driven to suicide yet

>>69839153
>I wonder what really happened to her. Does she not have a moral compass?
>Canadian

>>69843037
Is she that hot irl?

>>69856151
More like
>woman

>>69855887
Calm down, anon. Be a better person for Doki's sake at least. Revenge sounds nice and all but honestly all I want is to make sure there are no more victims. Nobody needs to be harassed anymore after they've already been effectively blacklisted. Personal harassment just makes people even more bitter and prone to seeking their own revenge again. It's not like she held the knife to Doki's throat, and I really just want to make sure the company itself gets destroyed for encouraging such bullshit to ever have a venue.

>>69855993
Difference being her business relies on the good will of a niche entertainment sector.

>>69855097
>Could be she's fulfilling the wishes of the bullies beneath her
Ive been wondering about that for a while. Shes had power for a long time, she got Enna and Millie nepohired right? but only when Sayu entered the scene did they become outwardly brazen as far as I know, around that time, Selen talked about getting an assistant (thereby circumventing clique power) and Sayu is japanese and could speak to the mainbranch, so she was shot down early, before she had any support.
Theres also a possible argument to be made that Pomu had some influence on Elira and maybe Elira cared about Pomus opinion more, until she decided to graduate because "management" messed with her dreams. I wonder if there was a fallout between them behind the scenes, dont think either of them would ever tell us about it though, Pomu doesnt seem the type to tell on someone she was friends with at some point.

>>69855137
I think youre correct, but its more like, theres bullies that are bullies that beat people for fun, or because theyre just cruel and lack selfcontrol, and they dont really care if they get yelled at later, but the really dangerous ones are those that cover their wife in bruises, but make sure that she wont dare to ever say a word, while keeping up the appearance of being a loving husband, a good father, and an asset to the community.
its the difference in planning and domination that make them so dangerous, because not getting caught through breaking the targets spirit is part of their M.O.
the same applies to malignant narcissists.

>>69855319
>>69855423
shes in japan though, she moved there, right? someone said she bought an apartment in tokyo even.

>>69855321
a "family member" suddenly had an illness on the day Selen attempted the first time, and, just from her tweets, she almost seemed happy, uncaring? that her/the families (female: bitch) dog was dying/died...? Also Selen is her sister in lore right...

>>69853872
lmao women

>>69853308
Underageb& shit.

>>69855993
ey bro, try commissioning some art now

>>69855993
every termination/graduation is a reminder of selen, which could be once a month at this rate.
it'll take months of good decisions before people actually forget

>>69856355
are you mentally ill, anon?

>from her tweets
>she almost seemed happy
yep

>>69856355
>a "family member" suddenly had an illness on the day Selen attempted the first time, and, just from her tweets, she almost seemed happy, uncaring? that her/the families (female: bitch) dog was dying/died...? Also Selen is her sister in lore right...
it sounds fun, but her family actually did have a dog that she seems close to. She's posted about it on twitter a few times.

>>69856440
?

people resumed making fan art and clips and nobody cares

>>69855993

it's be easy to forget about someone you stop watching.

>>69856671
doxx site sisters have come up with a list of artists to ban based on their non-support of Niji

>>69856355
seek help/find a new hobby

>>69854657
>>69855266
And just like that, you've been fooled. The leader will always be the first to speak. She commands the room and flow

I think Niji would be in a better place if they get rid of her, but my guess is they have drained the EN branch of all capital - banking on her to fill a manager role while also being a streamer (making you work several jobs is a scummy employer favorite). They are stuck with her, in this spiral towards the bottom of the ocean. Smart people will hop off the yatch before it sinks.

>>69854657
>>69853701
Neither of you have ever been hazed before if you think a leader saying "you don't have to do it" means anything but the exact opposite. She may as well have told Selen she can leave whenever she wants.

>>69856980
Meant for >>69855266

>>69856760
everybody that wanted to leave already did, as soon as she start streaming again it'll (slowly) go back up

>>69856980
>You can graduate any time you want

>>69857308
In most countries this is true as long as you respect your local labor laws. What Anycolor gonna do? Another PR disaster?

>>69856571
>are you mentally ill, anon?
yes. I was the wife in the above example. I dont understand why youre asking considering youre agreeing though.

>>69856580
yes, narcs always go for a combination of a) plausible deniability and b) pretending to be the victim. I do not doubt she had a dog, I dont doubt she loved her either and that she got hurt a lot when she died, Id be very surprised if her dog fell ill/died on the same day as Selen did though and this is just a coincidence. I mean, read the twitter posts of the clique from 14.1, thats when Selens second attempt was.

>>69856803
considering how few people are actually informed on the facts (not my theories that I posted above, just the stuff that was posted by either clique directly, doki, or nijiEN), if anything more people here should follow this. I see dumb shit claimed as new evidence every other day, even though it was brought up by someone here with screenshots multiple times before, and then theres 400 posts with nobody realizing that this is now new at all. the "kyo kaneko" screenshot from doxxsite (og: day of sayus termination) yesterday had one of those threads for example.

>>69856980
youre correct. I think its worth pointing out that if the leader does this to you in front of a "neutral" audience that doesnt understand whats happening, the "you have to do it" is a LOT stronger even, because otherwise it could be seen as "humiliating" the group, or the leader. And narcs really REALLY hate this.

>>69856885
>>69856980
You can turn anything into bullying if you twist the context enough, I guess.

Just like how Selen belittles everyone she plays with but has a mental breakdown as soon as they clap back.

>>69857546
So true sister.

>>69857526
>I dont understand why youre asking considering youre agreeing though.
I'm not agreeing, I was confirming your mental illness since you could tell she sounded happy from a tweet. You're approaching this thing like a piece of entertainment and speculating basing on your preconceptions. This isn't desperate housewives.

>>69855993
The damage done is astronomical. Twitter might forget in 2 weeks, but sponsors won't, They'll do due diligence and see this shithousery and go somewhere else. This whole incident is going to be taught in universities/corpo PR training for at least a decade as a case study in in how not to respond to a crisis and how not to handle terminations. It is historically bad. As for Elira every time someone graduates even if innocent there will be suspicion of wrongdoing. Every termination or acrimonious exit - she'll be a suspect. Every tweet by every organ is under suspicion if it's legit or a skinwalker. If she goes to another corpo and people find out, theyre going to be on guard for any shenanigans

>>69851584
keep telling yourself that. she's miserable. she betrayed her friends, ruined the company she "loved" and "built", started a plague of bullying far worse than anything she got, her parents are miserable, she'll have to be anxious every stream for the rest of her life waiting for the next troll or schizo comment/SC, and she will forever be known for only one thing: being a stupid menhera who actually tried to kill herself-twice! over a MV. She'll be out of vtubing within 2 years, tops, the anxiety will be too much for her.

>>69855536
Very nice, thanks.

>>69857919
anon, they didn't have any sponsors anyway. a bush league PC case manufacturer is the biggest thing they lost, oh nyo

>>69857271
Go back up by like 1k every month or two like before?

>>69857927
ah yes, doki is the problem, not the company that drove away pomu and selen, their best talents, or the best EN talents period.

>>69857927
If believing that makes me feel warm and fuzzy sister, go for it

>>69857927
>she betrayed her friends
They were only coworkers sister, her actual friends are not in niji. Nice cope

>>69857927

>>69858096
never said niji didn't suck, but everyone else is fine. nobody else jumps off a building except her.

>>69857927
Also she's probably scared shitless that one of the things she publicly embellished in the heat of the moment will bite her in the ass eventually.

>>69858242
>probably
>>69858221
give it time

>>69858052
You're talking out of your ass, HYTE is actually quite respected as a case manufacturer for sticking to their own design values outside of industry standards.

>>69857927
you tell 'em sister,also here... the mainland dick you ordened, or it was taiwanese? no wait you are lesser than a mainlander, maybe a thai one will suffice

>>69858221
>nobody else jumps off a building except her.
They literally cannot you retard, the contracts don't allow for them to quit when they want to quit. The only reason Selen did was that she was too mentally fragile and already targeted by management

>>69858242
yep. she tried to play hardball for extra pity, when the truth finally comes out (,and it always does) and we find out this is all because Vox laughed at her once during some playful banter, she's going to get devoured by all the people she grifted.

>>69858500
see >>69858194

>>69858500
ask the discord for better material, this isn't working

>>69858461
anyone can quit at any time. you don't show up to work, you get fired. like every other job. they didn't hold her at gunpoint retard, she's a grown woman making her own choices

>>69858085
Yes? That's not really the point, Nijisanji doesn't get free subs like Hololive does, the average normies subs to Hololive even before they debut. What I'm saying is that if that's the whole extent of "elira is finished" I'd say it could have gone worse. She still has 560k subs.

>>69858052
>bush league PC case manufacturer
HYTE is part of iBUYPOWER, which is the biggest name in prebuilt PCs. They have a lot of pull in the entire industry.

More importantly though, the sheer level of incompetence revealed, up to and including fucking up NDAs REPEATEDLY will lead to companies reconsidering their game permissions. When a company is loathed by the public AND a security risk, you don't work with them. That's just common sense.

>>69858847
>dead subs and doxxsisters
kek

>>69858729
>anyone can quit at any time. you don't show up to work, you get fired
Oh fuck off. Like people don't have bills to pay and want to get the public humiliation sendoff nijisanji gives to terminated livers.
Go fuck your self and your discord goon nijishister

>>69853308
Something something something underage Pomu posting nudes on /b/ way back.

>>69858965
She had 200k and she spent them on candles.

>"I made zero profit somehow"

I have to give it to the NDF sisters, at least they are brigading outside SEA hours for a change.

>>69857546
its not about that, its that she could and did use her management power behind the scenes to fuck with everyone that didnt bend the knee hard enough. her NOT being outwardly aggressive during performances most of the time is not what this is about. It wouldnt matter as much either if EN was managed by proper managers and livers were just livers. We re not in highschool anon, neither are the livers, even if some of them behave like it.

>>69857869
thats what multiple anons said when this was first brought up, it wasnt me. let me actually speculate for you, for free even: she was actually in super high adrenaline mode and pretty scared, fight or flight reaction. she didnt know what condition selen was in, and while she may be a narc, she didnt want to kill anyone, she just wanted her to quit (words of one of the two leakers during one of the big leaks of which most statements ended up being proven correct, much of it confirmed by a second leaker days later, though not this particular take, but it also didnt come up again), she didnt sound "happy" just distressed, but not depressed, very high energy, but cornered. Of course, I may be wrong about that, it could justve been a massive coincidence. Its not impossible, but my speculations are a lot more complex because I am indeed considering this entertainment, theyre entertainers after all, and apparently they switched from streaming to providing dramatubers with content, so why not let us have some fun?

>>69858847
Just like Hololive, most of those are dead subs: People who subscribed a long time ago, stopped watching, and just couldn't be bothered to unsub because Youtube's UI is ass.
The people who left are ones who were still around watching and cared enough to leave. Losing active subs hurts a lot. It means current viewers decided to no longer support your content.