/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>695458
half jap half english streams, laughs like a kettle, and enjoys cute and funny things

>>695458
she's based

>>695458
She likes lolis, but you'll have something in common with her,anon.

>>695458
High energy, self translates, wide variety of games, cute laugh, cute design, interacts with chat often.

>>695458
A laughing tea kettle who speaks fluent English with a cute idiosyncrasies. Sou, sou, sou.

>>695520
fpbp dayoooooo

NAISUUU

>>695570
Good...

>>695717
Thanks for join membership!

> LETS KILL DA HO
Let's kill the hoe?

Hoe?

>>695732
WAH RED! AKA! ARIGATOU

She recently did Dark Souls 1 and 3 which were pretty fun. Also Mario 64. Her content is very easy to follow because of how fast she switches between Japanese and English. Her Japanese-only dialogue is pleasantly fun to listen to. Her English has some minor grammatical errors but that adds to the charm, it's almost perfect.

>>696578
she never finished 3 unfortunately

>>695520
>>695588

>>695458
>Middle school kink

That´s the best I got, rrats be more meme than believable about VOMS really.

>>695458
>>695520
>>695624
>>696640
Where is her nose?

>>696644
>middle school

She’s not interested in ancient hags, anon

>>696713
A shark ate it

>>697170
I hate sharks now

>>695458
Best, cutest, and most entertaining Vtuber with great taste in artistic media who caters equally to her EN and JP viewers

>>695520
and she always pick very interesting games to stream,she knows her shit

>>695520
She also reached Christopher Robin in Winnie The Pooh's Home Run Derby, which is probably further than any of (You) ever got.

>>696713
nose streams are members only

She's currently on a rampage going after anything cute and funny, thus why she hasn't streamed in 5 days.

>>695732
>>696555
How can other girls even compete?

PEDO

>>697917
Seriously, she'll thank people for coming to her stream at random times in chat

For me? It's always cool Monoe

>>697917
She's legitimately the quinessential "indie" v-tuber at this point. She can't stop winning dayo.

>>698026
She was very hot rather than cool during her Ringfit stream if you ask me.

>>697892
Just look at how excited she is.

>sou sou sou

She is a dangerous predator

>>698071
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x4EQ28ZIp0
Holy shit you weren't kidding

>>695458
She's the one jp vtuber that can bring a pure vtuber experience to english viewers. She's one of the most fun english-speaking vtubers out there, much better and less toxic than boring hololiveEN, and she speaks japanese too but can switch to talk to everyone. She's also very cute, fun to watch when frustrated and veey wholsome.

Just watched her There is No Game stream and it was a lot of fun. She's a fucking retard at times though but I've come to expect that for anyone streaming a puzzle game.

>>698484
Oh man, that was her best stream since Henry Stickmin

YABAI.

From what I read from the VOMS general, she took the week of Valentine's off to ride his boyfriend's cock. That place is full of dry dicks lmao

>>699226
Never mind that she's been involved in several collabs in the meantime

>>699226
based Pikastacey filtering the incels from the sex-having stream enjoyers

>>699226
Kidnapped lolis together with her boyfriend.

>>699738
Based

>>698060
>quinessential "indie" v-tuber
How is she indie if VOMS is something put together by GYARI.

>>695458
Lolis LMAO

>>698026
UOOOHHHH

>>700284
Well they said "indie" in quotation marks for a reason. VOMs isn't a real company, so they don't have to worry about permissions and stuff, but Gyari does do merch and artwork for them. The girls keep 100% of their own revenue though and decide their schedules etc.

>>700284
They're about as indie as you can be without technically being independent, AFAIK Gyari only takes a cut off merch revenue, he doesn't make any other demands of the girls with regards to streaming or otherwise. He basically just auditioned for his designs, then gave them some basic lore and characters to follow to get things started.

>>698404
holy fucking shit have mercy on my dick

>>695458
I saw her play there is no game and I don't think I have seen anyone carried so hard by the chat and random clicks in my life. Almost makes gura look competent. Can't even blame bad English when she misses visual cues as well. It was funny as hell and she is cute. Like how she says Arigatou.

>>698404
Magnetbros why is she so LEWD

>>700284
Not this again...

>>700284
>>698060
Sio your title...

>>700395
Yep, girls could as well have not collabed or talked to each other at all and yet they do, therefore indie.

>>699738
Truly based

>>700448
Yeah I've wanted to throat punch her on multiple occasions because of how retarded she can be. She's lucky she's adorable and funny.

>>699226
>she took the week of Valentine's off
???

>>700755

She's legitimately the most entertaining vtuber. Like most women she's batshit crazy (sometimes for comedic value I hope). I'm phone posting from the gym but Pikamee Arson is a classic.

>>700785
Supposedly she's having tech issues. I was hoping she'd stream on Monday since the markets were closed.

Fat
Smelly
Mutt
Pedo

>>701440
Thanks, I hope you and everyone who likes this dies?

>>701593
pedomutt

>>701440
Attractive
Adorable
Funny
Woman of taste

>>701440
tell me about pikamee
why do people think she's fat

>>701713
lolis are high in sugar

>>697703
I thought the only reason English speakers consider that game is hard is because they didn't know there was a shop where you could buy upgrades?

does her roomate really have a boyfriend?

>>701713
Because they don't seem to know what a fat person sounds like.

>>701811
No.

>>701824
This. Just your average 4chan armchair detective making baseless claims about women, as usual. There is no reason to believe Pikamee is fat. At worst, she might be "overweight" by Asian standards, and that's it.

>>701713
Too many donuts

>>701675
Fixed.

>>701960
YOU SICK FUCK

>>701960
They'll just grow back.

>>701440
TEA
KETTLE
BRAPS

>>701960
wow, fuck you

>superchat
>pikamee, do you have bottom teeth?
>yep!
and then she just fucking ghosts us

>>702573
>ask a stupid question
>get a stupid reply
What were you expecting exactly?

>>702573
Based Pikastacy

>>701960
DELET

>>701713
She seems to eat A LOT of convenience store trash food, in most streams, she´s eating a thing or two while also drinking some high sugar stuff.

She probably isn't fat tho.

>>701960
what the fuck?!

>>702869
You need to keep in mind that healthy stuff is also readily available even in convenience stores in Japan, it's not like she can't be eating normal healthier stuff when off stream. Apart from all the fried stuff, most unhealthy stuff in Japan is less bad for you than a lot of western stuff.

We captured some... Hoes?

>>703143
That was a fun stream.

>Should we enslave the hoes?

>>700481
Cool Voice+tomboy design makes me diamonds

>>703302
Literally made for cuddling and tickling.

>>702697
>pikamee_coming_for_your_lunch_money.jpg

How long did she live in the US

>>703622
3 years I think?

>>701858
There's no reason to assume she's thin, either other than mysogynonistic beauty states and racist stereotypes about Asians.

>>703681
What are you, some corpulent hambeast? There is nothing misogynistic about the universally agreed understanding that being fat is objectively bad and unhealthy. There are far worse stereotypes you could have about people besides being of normal or lean weight.

>>702989
Healthy is probably the wrong way to describe it. You probably mean low calories.

>>703681
Meh, I've seen girls with some bad eating habits who were thin. It depends on the culture, I think. I knew an Iranian woman who would literally eat a bag of chip and snack of M&Ms and still be thin. A lot of Eastern women will try to take care of their bodies, and when they notice they're getting fat, they're take measures.

>>703642
Also a few years as a kid, which is how she got the base level English. She left for Japan before primary school I think, then returned for college for a few years.

>>703681
There's also no reason to assume she's fat

>>704026
Convenience store bento boxes aren't really that unhealthy.

>>703681

>>704082
She could be eating fucking FamiChiki for all you know.

>when she finds a kettle in a video game
>OH IT'S MY FAMILY
So cute.

>>704129
And what do you know that I don't? Not that I really care about her weight as long as she's healthy.

>>704083
>CodeLyokomee

>>703681
Why are ESL like this?
>>701960
Why did you edit this, anon?

>>704737
Aelita v-tuber when?

She apparently was here in TX for a bit. I could have seen her.

Sometimes, a little rrat grows in my heart that makes me think she was the girl who was at the drive-through window at Jack-in-the-box. She has the same voice and everything.

>>701798
No there's genuine bullshit in that game, Owl and Tigger are both semi luck based in there pitches

>>704912
Could be, not that it matters anymore.

need to watch her more, she's probably the one that actually got me into vtubers to begin with

>>704912
well was she cute

>>704978
She was a very cute Filipina girl. Her Eigo's actually really good, if it's her.

>>704648
I lived in Tokyo for 3 years. You're kidding yourself if you think the average prepared food item in a conbini is "healthy"

>>706072
Aside from one EN indie, Pika is the only Vtuber I watch regularly nowadays. She's really the best.

>>702573
one time it was.
Sc: here this is for a dentist.

Pika: Nope its going for the donut!

i fucking died.

>>695458
Where's a Pikamee-Coco collab?

>>699226
>his boyfriend's cock
You still can't write proper English, SEAnig.

>>704912
There was a huge winter storm that came through Texas so maybe that's why she couldn't stream. No power.

>>706339
based

>>706518
pikamee is trans.

>>695458
Not very family friendly

>>706645
pikamee isn't in Texas anymore, retardchama

>>698404
M-Monoe pls.

>>706851
There was also an earthquake in Japan, but it sounds like she was okay

>>706766
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Nj9H_z2i4

>someone asked her how to ask to pet a dog in Japanese
>she said you have to ask the dog first, in dog language
This fucking kettle

>>707146
I see she's been watching Korone.

>>706974
How rude.

>>706766
>>707006
I like how it can happen at any moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYlA8lAOSGA

Their SM64 streams were some of the best shit I've seen when it comes to gameplay videos. I became addicted to her videos.

>>695520
BIG

NICSUUUUUU

>>696640
>>695624
>>695520
>>695458
Does she have bottom teeth?

>>698026
monoe is my favorite from the three too

>>708856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvHEa--na3w

>>708783
>that one star in Snowman's Land that took forever to get where the other two girls and even GYARI himself appeared to cheer her on

>>695458
More like Fatamee (or Pedomee) am I right?

>>710707
Embrace tradition anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPl-Gv90UXw
>You guys love it, right? I know you guys love it!

>>711222
>"DeepL-sensei, taskete!"
Cute kettle.

>>700393
That's very nice, I hope other companies follow that example.

>>711222
I also really like that silly face she makes when she drinks

>>704912
She worked at Virtual Taco Bell

>>711222
HELP!
SHE'S KILLING ME WITH HER CUTENEEEEEESSSSS!

>>711222
>It's a family friendly such a great one right
I love Pikenglish

I like her in her solo streams. But is kinda annoying in collabs as she can't stop that kettle whistle while others are talking.

>>717681
Yeah, it's weird. I put off watching collabs and only just started the Cuphead stream, I've heard Tomoshika is infamous but it's just her squeaking cute affirmatives and non-stop kettle.

>>717681
>kettle whistle
But that is the best thing about her.

>>695458
Cute vtuber, terrible driver.

test

>>722068
A cute terrible driver! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDrO-stecf4

>>722068
>terrible driver.
she is (half)Asian and a woman. She's doing the best she can.

>>703681
>racist stereotypes about Asians
>85% percentile highest BMI for japanese females aged 20-30 is under 25

>>722068
>she got johnny's car in cyberpunk
>drove it into the ocean within 5 minutes
Never change

>>695458
can someone give me a rundown on why she hasn't streamed in a week

>>725880
She's been having considerable technical issues, though they are apparently cleared up and the next stream should be coming soon(tm).

>>722514
Americanon, he's a retard but 25 isn't thin... At all. What the fuck.

>>725880
she spent a week in our lovenest

>>725880
she HATES us

>>726008
only you, sorry m8

>important dialogue in Cyberpunk
>she's distracted by a big hamburger in the background
A true American

I still remember when she spent like 6-7 hours fighting Sans. I really didn't think she could do it. But I was proven wrong.


"ARE YOU SURE!?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dI2pUMknDg

pika electrical problems

>>726155
https://youtu.be/RC1sFLEE8c8?t=9989

the american in her

>>725880
Faking tech problems to get slammed by BJC

I love her and want her to be my gf

>>727094
Sorry bro, she's already taken.

>>695458
Is she hapa or full Asian?

>>727224
Mom's Japanese, Dad's American

>>727284
>she looks foreign enough to convince people she can't speak Japanese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXQ5IcRE6NY

YATAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, HAHAHA [insert kettle noises]

>>701713
Lotta loyalty for a rrat.

>>701798
It IS genuinely hard but I do remember when it first gained popularity here it was completely untranslated and most everyone was playing with vanilla stats because they couldn't navigate the menu. Levelling up properly I think just about anyone can bluff their way to Christopher Robin but beyond that it's the same old hell

>>700541
The early VOMS stuff where they're terrified to shit just talking to each other is very cute, GYARI wanted an autist-only roster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb1BMk-MrJk

>>726873
The American in her is me

>>731822
Let her work

>>727331
>I'm scared of the ding-dong!

>>725880
Going to be a special guest at ESA.

where does Pika ranks among the most popular indies?

>>731202
I love this bitch.

I want to lick pika! I want to sniff pika's butt! I want pika's chubby butt on my face! I want pika to say "iine iine" as she rubs my cock! I want to pound pika's ass and listen to her wheeze!

>>736405
Imagine have sex with a kettle.

>>737617
I don't have to imagine, it's all that I was doing the past week

>>736030
Her streams get way more rewatches than live views
She gets like 1500-2000 viewers on a good day but her overall views are like 75K on some videos

>>737929
I'd happily watch her live streams more if not for jap timezones.

I like how there are people who unironically think pikamee is a pedophile because of google translate fucking up her tweet

>>739268
Anon, she's said a dozen or more times that she likes lolis. That tweet was about finding little girls attractive.

>>739268
>because of google translate fucking up her tweet
No, Google mistranslated やっぱ9歳なんだよな as "I'm 9 years old, leading EOPs to claim that she was talking about her character. She clarified the actually meant in an English tweet: https://twitter.com/amanopikamee/status/1313365685435736064
She also explained herself on the next stream: https://youtu.be/KcwWZgNuVJk?t=1147

And then there's the members' only chat stream where she spends an hour UOHing about loli

>>695458
Tranny supporter.

>>739205
She tries to stream at times convenient for Americans, like early morning for English streams or late night when Americans are waking up.

>>739785
I don't remember her sending you a support letter

>>737800
Did you warm it on the stove first?

>>698404
I-Is she ok?

>>741634
But she did.

>>695520
>enjoys cute and funny things
I've watched like 2 or 3 streams of hers, is she really that blatantly open about it or is it just a meme?

>>744679
No, she literally just died

>>745203
Magnetbros... ;___;

>>699226
Kek

>>739720
Pikamee is kinda fucked over by Gyari's design. Makes Westerners think she's like a kids channel. A Japanese version of Cocomelon or something but it's really a 20 something, perverted hapa that streams vidya and gets drunk occasionally.

>>745203
>>745285

https://twitter.com/GYARI_/status/1362649351755943937

>>698404
>>744679
>>745203
holy fucking oof

>>701713
Literally the only reason is she's half American and america = fat

>>695458
This is what got a lot of people to watch her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5P1IzjagzI
>She's speaks two languages but in her own words she's still learning both of them so she switches back and forth mid sentence alot
>Upbeat attitude
>Cute design
>Plays interesting games
>Really good at filling dead air

>her natural voice crying on stream

>>695458
She got a co-worker fired just for the sheer fun of it.

What was that announcement stream about?

>>748616
Pikamee confessed to having boyfriends.

>>748616
Monoe fired for "breach of contract," that's all we really know

>>748658
holy fuck

>>748616
She was gloating while pretending to be sad about it.

>>748664
Announcement is on GYARI's twitter, don't have it on hand. They knew about it for a few days and were discussing it but ultimately GYARI decided to let her go. Still sudden nonetheless, perhaps the decision got finalized today, but it's all speculation. Pikamee also said in her stream something like "if you ever find her somewhere else in another situation, please support her" and that her so it doesn't SEEM like majorly illegal shit but it was a serious enough contract violation to fire her. Anything else is rrat bullshit

>>748754
>"if you ever find her somewhere else in another situation, please support her"
That's basically japanese boilerplate parting words shit, it doesn't actually mean anything

she's fucking dead

>>748754
>Pikamee also said in her stream something like "if you ever find her somewhere else in another situation, please support her"
This is just a standard saying in Japanese. If you work with someone in a business setting, after that business relationship is over, you still need to treat them with respect and support them. Mundane shit like that.

>>695458
she likes cunny

>>703681
(You)

>>726873
aight she fat

>>747464
afterwards I got a recommendation talking about virtual Texas and I am legally required by Texan law to subcribe

>>741840
pikussy ('kussy) is always warm, malleable and moist

>>698404
A wild rrat: she was fired because of this

>>745077
>blatantly open
I mean it's not like she talks about it every day, but she's definitely not hiding it and mentioned it a couple of times both on twitter and on streams.

>>752044
based redneck

>>745203
Welp, I guess it is done.

>>748616
A 10 minute rant about why lolis should be legal and how roaming around playgrounds is not suspicious at all.

>>745285

Here

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:59c0a1017d30a727ebbe5cf717856d9098f3df51&dn=Jitomi%20Monoe%20Archive%202020-2021

Never forget

This will always be my favourite Pikamoment
https://youtu.be/6ecM31IvrFU

>>753715
>the link starts with "magnet"
why did you do this to me?

Pikamee's crying stings...

>>753999
She's a sweet girl

>>753961
Because it is a "magnet" link in the actual tech sense.

>>739268

>>698026
I'm so sorry anon, but beware the quiet ones.

>>754224
The only good magazine

>>695458
She's a p***.

>>754224
Patrician tastes.

>>754344
perv?

>>754344
she -is- very phallic shaped, now that you mention it...

>>754344
She calls herself Pika, yes

I'd ratherorangepill you

>>754688
Do it then

>>754688
Alright let's hear it

>>725880
Period.

PEDO

>>754224
Extremely based.

wait magnet got graduated?
If there's one group I didn't think was gonna have any drama it was pikamee's

>>748689
Get Pika an oscar, then. That was one hell of a performance.

>>754224
She only reads it for the articles.

>>745374
Family friendly content, please understand.

>>756325
>graduated
I'm fairly new to this and have been lucky enough not to have any of my choobas graduate yet, but does this term apply here? Firing isnt the same as graduating right? I assumed graduating was saved for those that left on good terms. or is it just a catch all phrase for retired?

>>745374
I have never seen someone make the kind of comment you describe.

I love voms (pikamee) because it's evident she gets to play what she wants, but also makes collabs with others when she wants to

>>754224
She just reads it for the plot.

>>756325
Well breach of contract is vague. VOMS is a business, so anything that could hurt VOMS could result in that happening. Or maybe it was as simple as the contract stating she can't work for or talk to other agencies while under contract. Magnet got pretty meh views, so it's possible she wanted to try elsewhere.

>>756807
I always thought graduation as a term is similar to your dog going to "live in the countryside" when you're a kid.

>>695458
Hololive Gen 6 incoming

>>695458
She's fat, half American, and has a cute laugh

>>701440
II NE?

>>698404
was this the breach of contract?

>>756913
There are comments in her chat that took the family freindly meme seriously and get unironically upset when she swears or talks about lewd stuff. I'm saying her design looks more kids oriented and western compared to other chuubas so she is attracting fans that expect something she isn't.
>>756524
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYlA8lAOSGA

>you will never hold Pikamee in your arms while she cries into your shoulder

>>761761
I couldn't fit my arms around her.

>>756807
The term comes from Idol groups like AKB, which vtubers are basically an extension of. Never cared much for idols but my understanding is the agencies cycle the members of the units when they get "too old" and call it graduation. Then they go on to do a solo singing career/gravure or whatever they wanna do. But graduation is basically just a term meaning they were pushed out by the agency, unexpected or not.

>>762105
>>756807
>>756325
The proper term is そつぎょう sweeties

I miss her deeper voice from her earlier streams
https://youtu.be/4cZuDh-bgP4

>>761818
That's kinda hot.

>>761761
Too skinny, not realistic. We need to go bigger.

>>762506
I miss when she didn't force that laughing squeal.

>>725909
Under 25 is normal weight according to medical professionals.

>>762557
No, no it's not.

YABAI!

>>760724
>There are comments in her chat that took the family freindly meme seriously and get unironically upset when she swears or talks about lewd stuff
Well, she is family friendly 98% of the time. It's that 2% of not being family friendly that turns me off of her streams to go find someone else.

>>767338
>It's that 2% of not being family friendly that turns me off of her streams to go find someone else.
Sounds incredibly gay of you.

she was the savior that played cyberpunk when no one else did

>>768177
I just don't want to listen to people swear.

>>768341
how do you survive on this website

>>767338
>not liking the very thing that makes her popular
how very naive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkrWniAr8Zk

>>768341
Do prudefags really?

>>754344
PAKI? NOOOO

>>762629
Once you force a vocalization enough it becomes the default. It's going to be kettle until she forcibly readjusts herself.

>>769132
She said she's laughed like that as long as she can remember

>>768341
Sister Abigail might be the Vtuber for you then

>>768822
>how do you survive on this website
This is a family friendly website.

>>769808
Sounds like a pretty fucked up family

>>769666
Satan is right.

>>745374
>Pikamee is kinda fucked over by Gyari's design. Makes Westerners think she's like a kids channel
With the amount of people who grew up on anime and it becoming mainstream. How true can this statement be today? This statement has been made literally for decades now.

>>769666
Someone said she practices in the shower. In any case, I'm dubious of that claim since the way she does it currently is not the same way she did it around September and neither was the way she did it before August.

>>769909
Not him but I think it's more the simplistic, almost chibi-like design that makes Pikamee appear more juvenile than say a more traditional Live2D model. I don't necessarily agree with this perspective but I can see how her content can sometimes be dissonant with her appearance.

>>769992
Honestly at first I thought Gyari was going for the Cartoon Network aesthetic. They look so similar to western character designs.

>>762506
>gyari bgm
oh yeah, that's the good stuff

>>695458
Me and her should definitely hangout at the park and molest children together

>>769936
I remember the exact stream you're talking about. What she said she practices in the shower is her evil laugh.

Not that that diminishes your point, though. I still can't tell if she forces it more or if she was just suppressing it early on.

>>776950
>and then her mom heard it
Fucking classic

>>695458
She's utterly insane and really a bit dim.
It's great.

>>778334
>a bit
seen her There Is No Game stream?

>>695458
>Redpill
>I'm a retarded sheep who needs to be spoonfed 'subjective truth' I already agree with, please rape my face

>>778722
U mad?

>>699226
Sex stream when

>>696713
nose is ugly and disgusting

>>695458
She's hopa daughter of US military dude and jap woman. A character you've heard about so much in anime.

>>695458
I feel like the youtube algorithm is messing with her lately. Used to see more stuff about her.

>>707822
>>707006
You can hear the red blooded American in her

>>794396
so it's not just me, huh.

>>794396
Maybe it's because of this hiatus

>>739268
There is unironically nothing wrong with being a female pedo. My mom is one, and she is a great woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7VubHR-a3s

>>696644
she calls waifu anyone that looks like a waifu,
but she is very proactive if the target is between 6 and 12 yo

>>799447
George floyd?

>>759642
nah, it probably was fiscal problems or maybe she really was a government employee.

>>760724
ehh... some people unironically call her Familly Friendly?
:_Fでrespect:

>>761761
i like this one more

>>762506
yeah me too, and that one time when she made a cute voice for like 10 seconds, i still hope to hear that voice once more

>>736030
she usually ranks on the top 100 most superchat earnings youtubers

https://twitter.com/algoestowork/status/1363126259136356352

>>799306

>>803355
All the way to the work! On the Saturday dayo!

>>768341
>>769795
Blessed Plug

>>695458
tranny.

>>803355
https://twitter.com/And_Dads_Car/status/1363065861817401346

>>799447
>closes mouth
>cannot breath
Is there even one single Japanese VTuber that doesn't have a nose clogged 24/7 365 days a year? They all have sniffles

>>799447
>i can't breathe, i can't breathe

>>799447
Of course she can't breathe with her mouth closed, she has no nose!

>>799447
So Pika is a literal mouthbreather...

>>808939
yes and

>>809297

>>809776
Friend of mine made this

>>809297
Bros...