/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Ever since I learned about triplet hands my game has been getting worse
Why?

I want to hear Khubie's British swearing again

I'm saving this thread

Next Hololive mahjong when?

>>69760418
toitoi is not a good yaku to go for if your pairs are not honors, terminals, or 2s, 8s. If you have a pair, there are only 2 other copies of those tiles. The odds are good that another player will want them, they may be deep in the wall or in the dead wall. The general rule is if you have pairs of 3,4,5,6,7 or dora, you go for chiitoi instead of toitoi. You are sick with toitoi disease. You must detox, i prescribe a healthy regiment of pinfu

Can this thread live?

jong is reclining...

/jong/ should've stayed dead

>>69766907
Just play in Riichi City

>>69768989
No

>>69769061
What? Why not?

>>69769233
Mikos only participate in ERP lobbies with Ako players. Sorry.

>>69769549
>Ako
How much is she worth these days? $2 a pop?

>>69769807
Ako players actually pay you nowadays

>>69760490
uuuuuuuuuu

the death of /jong/

>>69771696
Death you say?

Majsoul Friends Room 28011(4-Player South): https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=28011

>>69772333
2/4

>>69772333
Bit of an odd hour, but I guess I'll wait around.

In this Crow's stream:
https://www.youtube.com/live/tFADJ940vC8?feature=shared
I noticed
>dora's, red5's don't glitter
>no color change of same tiles in the river when she hovered on her hand
>no popup when she discarded at riichi or reaching tenpai

Is this some hard mode MOD or a mandatory feature in the higher level rooms?

>>69772846
It's turned off by default in the Throne Room, and you can choose to have it on or off in private matches. Dunno if there's an option to turn it off in lower ranks

>>69772846
throne room doesn't have tips, you can also disable them in friendlies or with a mod if you really wanted to

>>69772333
3/4

>>69773222
If only that setting is used for Jade room as well.

Does a 4th player exist in this general?

>>69774001
probably not at this time of day

>>69774001

>>69773222
Where do you get that mod? I want to train myself by having them off.

>>69774852
mjs+

>>69775124
Thank you senpai

>get east, west, south pairs
>everyone discards north
>get east west south pairs
>everyone discards north
Oh, the misery.

...

lol wtf was that

let's pretend that hanchan didn't happen

im gonna dama

pain peko

>>69772333
well jonged

>>69772333
GG, rest in peace hag

>>69772333
well jonged :^))))))))))

>>69772333
WJ total hag death

>didn't even dama
liar

>>69777953
nyagger nyagged and I fucking died

>>69777953
I'm sure he would've if he entered tenpai, not that he had a choice

>>69760490
good news, QB is jonging right now and teaching a /wasp/ie how to jong!
https://www.twitch.tv/khubie

>>69766085
You're right about toitoi disease. I'll get around to learning pinfu one day. Open Wait has a certain style to it that's always struck me

No dying while QB is streaming you shits.

Dunno where you guys are discussing post game jong, but well jonged I guess? Gotta say, I did not expect the discard aka 5 24 wait on 3m.

>wake up
>jong collab
fuck yea

Flow is real, I tsumo'd 3 hands in a row

>>69785821
everytime something good happens in mahjong something bad happens to you in real life
equivalent exchange

how are you adjusting to hanchan, fuzzy?

>>69787336
considering my recent performances, not well lol

>>69788357
its a pretty tough adjustment. went through similar 40 minute rape sessions for a while before getting the flow of hanchan. keep it up and youll do great. boomeranging back so fast is a good sign, a lot better than me

>>69788357
>20.94% deal in rate
just fold some hands

>>69789534
folding in tenpai is against my flowlosophy

>>69789534
i think were talking about different fuzzys

>>69789858
I was talking about his gold room hanchan stats, I don't think we have another one of them

>>69789935
yeah that pic is from his ranked hanchan. are you in-game or using that one site?

>>69789989
the site, the in game one doesn't separate out different rooms

>>69790023
oh ok, didnt know it had that. neato. just needs to detox the tonpou and hes good

I give you this one final bump for the night. QB a cute would marry out of 10.

>>69791368
I will cover

will she make it ?

>>69792821
smug bird...

interestingly they are the most watched jong streamers now

dora dora dora

the flow is real

>>69775124
shieeeto desu

>>69795118
guess you're stuck playing the blitz no tips friendlies to train

>>69795339
I might bite the bullet and train on 2ho after all...but I love my pixel wives drawn by chinks

>QB is 4'11

ToT

>>69796856
10hou, my brain is die

>>69795118
have you tried just clicking launch game anyway? mine works even with that load failed message

vtubers for this feel?

>>69797317
uwu_to_owo as he spends 20 seconds making some bad ron joke

>>69797317
Daiya Diamandis

>>69796908
IMAGINE

>>69797264
Yes I did... maybe it just doesn't werk on my machine

>>69795118
change the number anon

>>69795118
Use the EN server, put 2

>>69798473
UOHHHHHHH

>>69798605
>>69798620
thank you for the help anons but my account is on the jp server. And I tried En server too (number 2) and Cn server (number0) neither worked :(

>>69798723
Disable User http server

>>69797435
dick move

>>69798797
Tried that too. BUT HOLY FUCK IT JUST LOGGGED IN!!!
What I did:
>Delete everything in /.config/Majsoul Plus
>reinstall
>disable the "unlock everybody" mod which will make the loading stuck at 96% no matter what configuration I tried
>disable user http server
and WA LA. Theres no tips. Thank you very much freiends!

QB looking for viewers to play come join

>>69801918
No way fag, I only play with cute boys.

Andy bringing the pain this is the fourth bonus round on her dealer turn

>>69803379
fifth
this woman is too strong

>>69803379
still on east 3 an hour later...

>>69800951
that mod doesn't work and also can get you banned.

I miss QBPT uuuuuuuu

>>69805338
This implies the bird is now jong royalty

>>69805559
I just liked listening to them talk

>>69805338
uuuuuuuuuuu

>>69805662
Didn't say I disagreed. Their dynamic is entertaining.

Who will QB ask to jong collab next?

>>69805836
niceeggy, she was jonging this morning and since her japan arc she goes hard

>>69805836
what i want is that female chuuba jong tournament

chii

Will my elf ever get to play with her friends again?
https://files.catbox.moe/4j26sj.webm

>>69808676
she doxxed collabs partners so she became blacklisted

Sio did nothing wrong.

>>69805836
I think your oshi cuts bro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4GI-hV0zqw
Moco throne room training before tomorrow's raikan tournament.

>>69811269
DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT SAY IT I BEG TO GOD PLEASE KHU JUST BE CUTE DORKY GIRLT DO NOT BE A CUTER DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT SAY IT

https://www.twitch.tv/licht_the_bun
FAT FUCK CHUUBA JONGING

>>69811520
>goth/pastel goth
>vampire
>fangs
>heterochromia
>covered in bandages
If she doesn't cut herself she probably is at least into knifeplay and asphyxiation.

if there's a button, I press it. Simple as that.

>>69813477
post your 100% call rate stats

>>69813531
why does it matter? I'm having fun.

>>69813572
I need the 100% call rate for future shitposting, I don't care about the rest

>>69817074

>>69805836
This is what peak female jong performance looks like.

>>69811520
a cut for every time she got double ron'd

>>69819285
SHE ISN'T ONE uuuuuu

>>69808676
only an idiot would collab with this bitch given her history

>>69819959
based people like Tsuchida don't care and stream with her though.

>>69819285
she would be dead by bloodloss then

>>69820167
Tsuchida isn't a vtuber and she probably paid him to collab with her

>couldn't pull the last two 9s for 13 orphans
Gonna kms

>>69821283
better luck next time

RON

>>69823782
RONS YOU WITH 1h ON MY DEALER TURN NOW THE GAME WILL LAST FOREVER

>>69824754
NOOOOOOOO

>Pick up riichi city
>4th place 4 times

are tryharders just living in the sun level because there is no one else in the upper floors

>>69822931
I ended up getting this in an AI game when I just wanted to test out the chink client, so that's cool I guess.

>>69825157
I thought there was a cap limit on points

>>69825157
>they're giving chinks all the good hands
I FUCKING KNEW IT

>>69825052
Yep, that's the biggest issue of RC, the lack of high level players so the best ones often have to use Sun instead of Galaxy rooms. Skill level in Sun rooms fluctuates a lot.

>>69825157
gz anon, nice double yakumeme

>>69825951
Yakuman stacking is technically an optional rule (And separate from counting daisuushii, 13 wait kokushi musou, 9 wait chuuren potou and suu ankou tanki as double yakuman), even with yakuman stacking, the theoretical maximum is sextuple yakuman, which requires you to combine tenhou(1), tsuuiisou(1), suu ankou tanki(2) and Daisuushii(2). This theoretical hand would be valued at 192K points for a non-dealer and 288K for a dealer. Fun fact: All characters in MahjSoul have lines for sextuple yakuman, but it has never been achieved

>>69827105
i been playing this game for two months now and I feel i barely scrapped the surface

>>69827105
Little correction, it has been achieved with a different setup.
Tsuuiisou, Suukantsu, Suuankou tanki, Daisuushii
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3BAEgv61faI
Zaki has all kinds of high scoring videos/shorts

Bump

>S3
>in first by 10k
>"just dont push and this is an easy win"
>draws pairs of 1m, 1p, 1s
>never had a three color triplet before
>just...dont...push...
>PON!
>PON!

>>69831359
stupid sexy tempting sandshocker doukou.
Look at those 1p tiles laughing at you.

>>69831359
"If you're having fun playing [mahjong], you're not playing optimally"
t. Bobby Fischer, probably

a

>>69828687
I had forgotten about suu kantsu lol, wonder if someone has done the math to see if this setup is more likely or less likely than the one I described, probably more likely since Tenhou (Chiihou would also work come to think of it) requires you to get the entire hand at the start, while suu kantsu can be done over multiple turns, just need to get lucky with draws

>>69836199
believe it or not suu kantsu is the rarest yakuman https://www.reddit.com/r/Mahjong/comments/ahzq9j/frequencies_and_probabilities_of_yakuman_hands_on/

>>69837887
Its extremely obvious, you need to draw an entire suuankou tanki for it, and if anyone else kans, it gets interrupted.

>>69838017
can you write this in a way where you don't sound like a jackass?

>>69838430
sorry, I'm not very good at that. I'm not trying to be intentionally rude, just pointing out some reasons why.
Also, its tenhou stats, which is why kazoe is so low. Tenhou which is populated entirely by soulless japanese players who don't kan under any circumstances, and lucking into a kazoe in a normal hand requires dora 5 minimum.

Who should I watch 2 improov

>>69839647
crow, if you're a dekinai your best bet is unironically tileman unless you're willing to watch someone who isn't a vtuber

>>69837887
I'm not saying suu kantsu isn't the rarest yakuman, just that it'd technically be more likely to combo with other yakuman than tenhou. Sextuple yakuman with tenhou/chiihou requires drawing 12 specific tiles (a triplet of every wind) and one dragon at the start of the hand, then get a dragon as your first draw, this last part is important as even if all tiles are exactly the same, a shanpon between the dragon and one of the winds would bump it down to quintuple since it's suu ankou instead of suu ankou tanki. In contrast, the setup where tenhou/chiihou is replaced with suu kantsu technically gives you some leeway as you don't need to get everything you need in one turn, at the expense of being able to get screwed by other players catching on to what you're doing
>>69838017
Technically you get one kan worth of leeway, 4 kan abortion doesn't happen if the player that called kan rinshans, this is a bullshit edge case scenario, but it's theoretically possible

>>69839647
If you want to improove you learn 5 block theory, play enough games (get to expert), then learn a bit of defense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDEK_FSAwKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p-7o27JUlQ
These 2 translated videos by Senba Crow about defense, if you take them to heart, will be enough to get you to master in mahjong soul. After that, you need to learn Japanese to watch streamers.

>>69840513
i should check this i been playing a bunch of games absentmindedly and I dont think i am improving

>>69836199
so many words i dont get yet...

>>69840513
I have been only trying to max tile efficiency and using suji fold. Once I take all the discards into calculation this game kills my brain.

>>69843060
That's enough to carry you quite a bit. Might want to learn about kabe in addition to suji.

>>69843201
In the riichi 1 book, the kabe was clear for
>3 blocking waits of 1, 2 (if not tanki)
>7 blocking waits of 8, 9 (if not tanki)
but for 4, 5, 6 being kabe, as I understand it, they can't guarantee safe tiles because of kan/penchan waits. So should you prioritize folding according to 4, 5, 6 kabe or oppenent's suji's?

How do you know your hand is fucked and you have to fold in order to not get destroyed?

>>69843914
two riichis or more

>>69843914
when you can't win before dealing in

>>69843914
2+ away and there is a riichi
1+ away and dealer calls riichi
End of second row, you're 1+ away and someone has made calls with visible yaku.
Third row and still no tenpai that can't evolve into keiten.

>>69843914
Opponent in tenpai (based on number of calls/row of tiles, whether they've declared riichi, or whether they're discarding most of their draws) and your hand is low in value/not in tenpai/bad wait

>>69844270
>whether they're discarding most of their draws
Do any digital clients actually make a distinction between whether someone discarded their draw or a different tile in their hand?

>>69826260
Once upon a time, Mahjong Soul had that same problem with throne room.

>>69844811
RC darkens tsumogiri tiles by default. MJS has a different animation if they cut a tile from their hand or the newly drawn tile so you can tell if you're paying attention.

>>69844874
This, and also there's an addon for mjs+ which implements the RC functionality. Whether you feel such addons are cheating probably depends on if you're a WoWfag or not.

>>69844983
at this point why they dont implement it if people are going to cheat anyway

>>69845038
Why kneel at cheaters, they are better off banning them

>>69845038
Probably the same reason FF14 doesn't

>>69845038
you could say the same for AI assist/"Stockfish", so I'm not sure if this is the line of questioning you want to pursue

>>69845038
Next you're gonna say they should just let mortalbot play for you since all the retards on ladder are mortalbots anyway.

>>69844983
>mjs+
I'm surprised that hasn't been banned yet

>>69845145
are bots already better than humans at jong?

>>69845234
No, I think the bots play at a master or saint level at most? At least from what I've read.

>>69845234
Bots can play like strong players, but it'll never be anything like a chess AI.

>>69845234
bots with perfect games can't survive the jade climb

>>69845300
I wouldn't say never; remember when OpenAI beat the world champions at Dota? Complex, imperfect-information games are already at risk.

https://openai.com/research/openai-five-defeats-dota-2-world-champions

>>69845509
Yeah, never. Make a bot play poker and tell me how it does.

>>69845575
oh no no no ACRbros don't look
https://twitter.com/ACR_POKER/status/1743676626188095971

>>69845575
ojiisan...

https://www.deepstack.ai/

>>69845575
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/botfarm-won-10-million-wpn-1830157/

>>69845234
The bots in Tenhou certainly can

>>69845575
>this nigga got btfo'd THREE times

>>69846039
What I said is that it will never be anything like a chess AI, where a human cannot win against the bot ever.

>>69831359
Temptation is a nasty thing. Do you not agree?

>>69845841
There's literally zero strategy games for humans to win against eh eyes now. it's owari da.

https://www.twitch.tv/kiasnassa
anon's snake wife is live

https://www.twitch.tv/seolha111
meanwhile my korean wife is live too but she still doing the akagi watchalong

>>69845509
that's not a good example

RB1 bores me
give me a link to the schizo one

>>69850500
If you cannot even read RB1, the point of FB1 will fly over your head

>>69850500
just play the game and go back to rb1 later

>>69850838
im a schizo only schizo speak appeals to me

>>69850865
if you can't already hear the voices you're ngmi

I've been reading Riichi Mahjong Strategy and my brain is burning... how important is learning the complex tile efficiency stuff?

>>69850500
I have an abridged version of Flow Book 1 here with only the useful info:https://rentry.org/nz57a

>>69851944
ok this seem deep might take some time to digest

>>69851944
>my /mjg/ shitpost got reposted here
this really is just /mjg/ without the kokos

should i go for half outside or stick with my reds

>I can see the animation difference

>>69851857
just play by feel nya~

>>69851857
I don't think cutting a 1 when you have a 4 or a 9 when you have a 6 is particularly complex, same with cutting a 1 out of 124 when you already have a head, recognizing ryankan ryanmen shapes like 245667 and properly breaking down your blocks will probably do you more good than trying to remember exactly what you should be cutting since you'll just come to the conclusion anyway when you're thinking about how to progress your hand

>>69852056
My shitty Kakegurui manga edit made its way here too. Embrace the mahjong culture I guess.

>>69852681
you guys are not set until vtubers show your edits on screen

we have to get QB into the flow book

>snake was in tenpai for daisangen and lost it because of a 1 han ron
im sorry for her.

>>69853051
should had read the book of flow

Jong. With anons.

Majsoul Friends Room 18986(4-Player South): https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=18986

>>69855281
Now's not a good time huh...

>>69855281
I failed my driving test earlier today, maybe some jong is what I need

Ah, it was closed

Majsoul Friends Room 43172(4-Player South): https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=43172

Local Yaku enabled.

>>69855915
started

Today Iost 40k bronze, at this rate not only I won't climb but I will be too poor

>>69855281
missed it, i was making breakfast

I already had my menhera moment and moved on, but cool, see you guys next time.

>>69856495
stop buying gifts and it shouldn't be an issue

How do we stop the hime?
https://www.twitch.tv/khubie/clip/BigFriendlyCheetahKlappa-wH7QZemVwJvu6ysW

Guess this just isn't my day huh

>>69856667
Let me rephrase it, I lost 40k in one day from losing matches

why couldn't i Riichi my hand? it was closed and i reached tenpai when 2 discards were left

>>69857227
If there's less than 4 turns left, you can't riichi

>>69857189
jesus
>>69857227
can't reach if under 4 discards left

My 13 orphans...

>>69857189
I know how you feel bro, sanma gold rooms are brutal, I either win 3 to 4k bronze or I lose 5k

>>69856645
see you next time, jonger
>>69857189
wao that's an achievement in itself, share a replay so i can laugh at you

Not everyday do you get 2 shots at 13 orphans and get neither

this has to end with a shadowrealm

Wrong emote, force of habit lol

ggwp, thanks for cheering me up a bit guys

I didnt want to drop that dora
gg

wj

Well jonged!

WJ

no qb... we struggle

without a vtuber to stream to it to carry discussion, /jong/ will surely perish...

>>69865001
we will need to dress up one of the males as qb
dutch wife style

>>69865176
Mahjong?

>>69865176
Too old

>>69865176
>Female
No thanks bro

>>69865176
twap ass

>>69865176
>not broccoli

>>69865272

>>69865970
Still too old

>>69865970
Mahjong

>>69865970
needs more tiles

>>69866961
With how big that ass is you can probably use it as a table for all the players

>>69865970

>>69868237
mating?

>>69868237
I would pon that if you know what I mean hehe

>>69865001
This thread needs to Include card games too so I can talk about Nova.

>>69871192
got a chuuba for you now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojSuztSFAZY
this one is a contrarian so it will be hard to get her into jong but she is friends with qb and pittie, we can win

me when I jong

>>69872874
towa...

>>69872874
Cute boy

>>69875507
I don't want to listen to 40 y/o chinks

>>69875507
RC technically has one that you can enable in friendlies but I heard it's like you record a message and then it plays and even you hear it yourself, so it's not a proper live voice chat. Some other Asian game I remember playing did something like that too.

>>69875093
broccoli isn't a boy...

>>69876766
girls count as boys if you get them from behind

Crow streaming!
https://youtu.be/YV12Q_QCx0I

what made you start jonging?

>>69880309
my oshi started jonging and by god i will not let a woman beat me at anything

>>69880309
Pippa

>>69880309
Peer pressure

>>69880309
reading akagi for the 4th times and still understood jackshit.

>>69880309
I saw Mogu playing it

>>69880309
I'm Taiwanese

>>69880309
I wanted to annoy Pippa.

>>69881143
did it work

>>69881401
She laughed at my name, was impressed I got it, then laughed at me going to last place before making a comeback with poverty hands, sadly Pippa won. Luckily out of the four /pcg/ jongers in that room, I was second. I am not the only one who got embarrassed that day.

>>69881786
I can guess who you are and I dont even watch pippa

>>69881923
That would be impressive.

>>69882415
*** ** ******

>>69882489
not me, I beat Pippa the first time I played against her

This is me when I jong

>>69883205
>THEY JUST CALL TILES AND SIT THERE IN AN ARC MAN
>FUCKING PROTOSS AND THEIR INVISIBLE DAMA HANDS

>>69871459
>Pafu is going to play DBSFW
Wasn't expecting that

>>69883976
she worked on a taco place knowing dragon ball was probably a job requirement

>>69884243
forgot my image

Flow presented without context.
Mahjong Soul Game Log: https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?paipu=jmjmnq-s0y4s032-63ab-6dgh-ikbc-fhjpjrnpqqp0_a823714059_2

>>69884346
nice flow, give me some of it

>>69885043
No, I'm climbing out of my rank debt RN.

https://www.twitch.tv/lilylionmane
I got one playing shogi

One day we'll have actual mahjong vtuber stream watchers.
The ones that are liveposting the tournament on some other thread.
Maybe one day.

>>69886441
qb will convert them all just belib

>>69886441
My oshi hasn't jong'd for weeks

>>69887747
who?

>nobody watching raikan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTY3c5dMNno

>>69889037
i'm reading jong stuff, can't do both

>>69889037
its like 4 am

if Yugioh kept going with its original story, Yugi would have played mahjong eventually

>>69887969
Virtual Voldemort

>>69892643
She plays off-stream though and things aren't very daijoubu...

Holy shit what a renchan massacre from Moco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqI8eJgRjSs
Moco.

I'm coming!

Nina in 10 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhqMIH6XoUI

>>69895807
What do you think you're doing, anon?
Where are you going?

>>69895807
>sanma
Good job, I guess?

>>69896337
to the moon

mjg friends, why are you mad

>>69892677
I guess she's been cursed with 1000 years of bad flow from what she's done in her past

>>69897687
if she played Pippa with her 100 YEARS BAD JONG LUCK, would some of it cancel out?

Baker doko

>>69898926
im sleeping

>>69898926
do you want anything in the new one? All I did for this one was fix the broken links from the last one

>>69901900
Nothing new