/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>sign with Hololive
>banned from ever collabing with Kson again
Ogey rrat

>hindsight

>>69742060
And that's a good thing.

>>69741888
No she couldn't, her content is trash

>>69741888
kys beggar

>>69741888
She owns her own IP, doesn't have to go outside, doesn't have to split her money with an agency, can collab with whoever she wants, r being able to play modded Minecraft, has a loli Daki. Henya is happy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv13gl0a-FA

Bijou makes 10k ccv, 1/2 given away
Henya makes 7k ccv, 0 given away

who wins?

Why do "Henya should have joined Hololive" threads keep popping up? Are they bait? Are people just retarded?

>>69742780
>She owns her own IP
Wait, what? Does everyone at VShojo own their own character?

>>69743091
yes, have you been living under a rock

>>69743091
Yes? That is how it has always worked. Is that still not clear all these years later?

>>69742780
>doesn't have to split her money with an agency
come on, if you want to shitpost at least make it believable

>>69743158
>>69743149
idk I'm a newfag, I got into VTubing with Advent

The only thing bad about Henya is that collabs with vshojos, that I could not give less of a shit about, are shitting up all her clippers.

>>69742855
blue dorito always wins

>>69743042
To mix up the Ironmouse bait threads

>>69741888
Is it ndf spamming the vshojo bait threads or holobronies salty about that awards show?

>>69742060
Only positives.

>>69743256
Nah, the only thing bad about Henya is that she cannot keep a schedule ever. She never posts one and even as Pikamee gave up doing so since she doesn't keep to them anyway. I get that she likes just doing what she wants but the amount of games she said she will play but then forgets about grows every month.

>>69743322
How is that Jojo watchalong going?

niji deflection thread

Why do you keep making this exact same thread with the exact same text over and over?

>>69743478
Holo circlejerk or NDF spam, either one

>>69743042
Numbermonkey holotards have gotten bored of the nijidrama.

>>69743615
Too bad Wactor is too Spanish for VT to give a fuck about. Would be a nice distraction

>>69743415
>>69742155

Who's even making these garbage threads in the first place?
Henya/Pika "fans" who just "want the best" for her (and thereby completely disregarding how she's happy where she's at, nice "fans")
Holobeggars having sour grapes that one of the few good outside talents they actually approve didn't want to join their blue dorito cult?
Nijiniggers desperately throwing shit at the wall trying to deflect from whatever the daily fuckup in their trashfire agency currently is?

>>69743723
>Nijiniggers desperately throwing shit at the wall trying to deflect from whatever the daily fuckup in their trashfire agency currently is?
Most likely this one since the timing is hilarious and Vshojo has done literally nothing noteworthy aside from Mouse winning another award.

>>69743723
Holobeggars is my guess. Mostly because most of Holo EN doesn't stream even half as much as Henya, and anyone being happy outside of Hololive is a threat to their ego.

>>69741888
Pika was already successful, I am happy someone who was unknown got the spot.
The only thing that is regrettable is that she was bamboozled into joining vshojo without knowing their reputation and the fact that it is filled with snakes, I wish her the best.

>>69743928
I wish I could be bamboozled into being that happy.

>>69743091
Nyanners literally left Vshojo bro.

>>69743928
nobody who's already successful would want to join hololive

>>69741888
I mean if you have watched her for a while, you would know this dyke isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. She got into vshojo without knowing anything about the company. To say she's retarded would be an understatement.

>>69744036
Exactly. Especially in EN where you would lose more than you gain with bullshit perms issues, mandatory travel, and revenue split.

>>69741888
Now the ndf is trying to get holobros to attack henya and shit on biboo. If you were a fan of henya you would not had made this obvious bait retarded thread. Anybody who is an actual fan of henya knows she is better in vshojo. Henya is am actual hermit. She doesn't like going outside or feel under pressure because of the idol stuff hololive has going on. In vshojo she has the option to not leave her home and not do concerts stuff.

>>69743928
>>69744137
>The only thing that is regrettable is that she was bamboozled into joining vshojo without knowing their reputation and the fact that it is filled with snakes
>She got into vshojo without knowing anything about the company.
Retarded thread reader, she was already familiar with them from collabing and was watching their contents.

Hololive is only good for people with ambition.

>>69741888
kuro going to rape henya in japan right now

>>69743659
Why do Spanish speakers have to turn everything into the novelas your abuela watches?

>>69744137
She is a happy retard though, and one who is in a place that caters to her hiki tendencies.

Hololive is only good for 2views

>>69744212
And she gets to change her hair color which is now illegal in Hololive for some reason.

>>69741888
I like our current Koseki Bijou more than Pikamee tbhonest.

>>69744220
If Kson hasn't yet, no way he would even get the chance.

>>69744252
t. seething 2 view reject

>>69741888
>but she could make bigger numbers!
your mind on the protestant work ethic

>>69744329
That doesn't even make sense

>>69744315
Biboo and Kaela are so perfect for each other, losing that to have someone who wouldn't be that happy or cooperative would be a waste. Henya is not a good fit for Hololive at all, and Pikamee was barely a fit for VOMS and that is only because of how hands off the bird is.

>>69744217
I don't care fag, I choose to believe she is dumb rather than intentionally joining a group of grifters and I'm not watching her to find out otherwise
I wish her the best

>>69741888

>regurgitated pulped 6 month old bait

The SEA mind is frozen in time

>>69744425
Seethe harder sperg, she's happy where she is and likes the people there.

>>69744425
>I choose to maintain this retarded opinion and don't care to actually learn anything about what I'm talking about
Maybe you could just shut the fuck up then

>>69744461
10 month old bait really.

>>69742060
Downside?

>>69744367
just think about how much money she could make for nippon holdings ltd. and tokyo investment inc.

She was dying for 3D, costumes, and shit when she was Pikamee. If she joined Hololive she’ll have to wait for years to get all that and be forced to go outside and socialize. She’s happy there, leave my retarded kettle daughter alone.

crab bucket mentality ass fans, I pity Pika

>>69744425
>I choose to believe
No you don't, you lie while knowing a truth that contradicts the lie. It just makes you a dumbass.

>>69744484
>>69744509
>Noooo you have to believe Pikami decided to join a failure twitch corpo so that I can use the positive reputation she has attached to her PL to prop up my gutter whores
No, I wish her the best when vshitshow inevitably collapses

>>69742780
>She owns her own IP
She owns a shitty IP. I swear someone at Vshojo needs to tardwrangle a little. Kson is the only one that I think has an amazing design, and I would miss it if it disappeared.
>doesn't have to split money with an agency
Are you retarded? Of course she does. Do you think she gets 100% of her merch profit? Also, twitch partnership is basically being in twitch agency too. Up until recently, you couldn't even multi on youtube if you were a twitch partner.
>can collab with whoever she wants
This isn't how collabs works. The higher you are up in the food chain, the easier it is for you to collab with anyone you want, while the lower you are, the less restrictions there are. This is why small corpos does collabs between themselves all the time, but Holo and Niji gets the big collabs. If Henya wanted to collab with Reese's, she would have a much better chance at Holo.
>modded Minecraft
Hololive servers are modded too, there is nothing in the base game that allows those portals that travel between servers.
>loli Daki
Kanata and Gura have official dakis too. And they have some non-official on top of that too.
>Henya is happy
Ignorance is Bliss. She could have big solo concerts with all the music and there was a future where she joined Holo and collabed with Cup Noodles and Reese's.
Being in Vshojo is not terrible, but let's not kid ourselves, it's not Holo.

>>69744875
muhammed can't even spell her name right

>>69741888
I love Pikamee as a girlfriend and she has boing boing.
I hate Henya.

>>69741888
If you can make it into Vshojo, I don't see any reason to go to Hololive.

>>69744886
I like henya's design, I agree with everything else though

>>69744886
>She owns a shitty IP.
Nope, it's doing better than Pikamee did.
>Do you think she gets 100% of her merch profit?
NTA and no, but the cut is far more favorable than in Hololive for sure and he probably meant no donation / sc cut.
>This isn't how collabs works.
He's talking about collabing with friends, not sponsorships. No manager has to approve a collab in Vshojo.
>Ignorance is Bliss
You are ignorant because you don't watch her.
That might also be the reason why you understimate Vshojo so much.

Keep my kamioshii's name out your mouth!
Clearly astroturfing sisters trying to poison the well in preparation for mousey's concert and the invariable invites.

>>69744875
>>69744875
You don't have to believe anything because its not a matter of opinion, unlike what this >>69744509 anon said. It is exactly what it looks like.

>>69745232
vshojo already poisoned their well by becoming niji's retirement home

>>69745287
Why is being a retirement home a bad thing? It is clearly working for them.

>>69745287
You realize that an ex-niji is in Holo too yeah?
How much poison did that bring?

>holosisters writing an essay on how the woman making $40000 a month before merch profits got a bad deal

>>69744886
>modded Minecraft
>Hololive servers are modded too
You know damn well that there's a difference between content mods and server side plugins. Stop pretending to be retarded

>>69745411
she could have had the same number of viewers but instead of wealthy american ojis it would have been indonesian teenagers, bet you didn't think about that, vshitshocuckkek!

>>69745388
back then niji was worth something

>>69741888
Biboo>Pikamee

>>69741888
>if she had just waited for a bit
Why do you assume everything wasn't finalized by that point? Advent debuted within a year of her odds are they already had them or were in the final wave of negotiations.

>>69741888
>>/vt/image/omlj6L9s2bjjA1nLiEvI9g

>>69742060
Ok but what's the bad part?

>>69742855
You have to take into account Bijou also makes salary.

>>69745582
Nah. Biboo needs holo to shine, but Pikamee got everything by herself. And she is way more genuine than Biboo. Same ass Kobo, Biboo seem a bit fake to me.

>>69745226
>That might also be the reason why you understimate Vshojo so much.
The more these threads appear, more its becoming extremely clear that when people talk about vwhorejo they are almost totally ignorant of its basic operations, not in depth shit or numbers but of the basic organization of the company. In everyone of these threads, people bring up how negative the reputation of Vshojo is as if nobody would touch them with a 10 foot pole when you only need to take a cursory glance in the catalog to see a bait thread about the award Mouse just won. It's the most bizzare cope when you point out basic things that don't fit the catalog perception of vshojo, they'll bring up rrats and more rrats or things that only the catalog cares about because they legitimately do not know alot.

>>69745725
the salary for talents is below minimum wage

man the sour grapes are extra sour today, even if vshojo is a whore house it won't get her blacklisted from joining holo in the future

>>69741888
Current Biboo is best possible Biboo, Henya would not fit in as her niche is overlapping with other whence Biboos is not

>>69741888
that would have been a solid reason to start watching hololive again to be honest
but i'm glad she didn't join, now she owns her IP and gets to keep the model, doesn't need to split her money, and most importantly no retarded perm tisms

>>69745746
Proofs?

>>69745880
the source is the only holos who have ever talked about the salary

>>69743225
Vshojo gets 0% from donations, subscribers, bits and merchandise done by the talent themselves. They only get a cut from merchandise done over Vshojo like the Smite collaboration.
Yes they are better in every way possible cry about it.

>>69745891
how many years ago was that?

>>69744886
Henya couldn't properly integrate into holo because she would be forced to meet the livers and staff irl.
Also I think she fits her current IP very well, the panicked expression of her model with the spiral eyes + kettle noise is a perfect combo.

>>69745736
VT is completely divorced from reality when it comes to these things. Not just Vshojo either, If Mori truly was ruining Hololive, something would be done by people who actually matter.

>>69746064
Her new short hair outfit is one of the cutest model in vtuber.

>>69746047
do you have any up to date information on how the salary has increased massively since then? if not then ogey rrat

>>69746087
on the contrary, shitters like mori and laplus get the best treatment

>>69745363
It is a bad thing. Matara was exposed as a fucking hypocrite. Her issue in kurosanji wasn't the clique it was that she couldn't be a main player on the clique. She is the clique now at vshojo. Blocked sayu from being hired. But welcomes kyo. Why the hell would anybody hire Nijisanji rejects and bullies? If millie graduates guess who'll nepo hire her too? Matara. Look man, if vshojo.doesn't change course it will not longer be unique it will be Nijisanji 2.0.

>>69746234

>>69742060
Kson still does non coombaiting streams with people who aren't porn stars?

>>69746314
There's no arguing with you people

>>69746234
Vsj’s clique is Mouse and just Mouse alone. Maybe Zen too but that’s about it. Mata aint shit in vsj.

>>69746234
>her issue wasn't *rrat*, it was *dumber rrat*, now she has *retarded rrat* and *rrrrrrat*
this is a good time to mention that henya doesn't want anything to do with hololive because she went to school with roboco who bullied her and pekora once went to her house and threatened her and her roommate. this is all real and true.

>>69746339
obsessed chimp

>She is the clique now at vshojo.

>>69746417
Yeah I remember about that. Fucking Pekora and her stupid monkey. Leave the kettle alone.

>>69746417
I didn't say I wanted henya in hololive how is this any relevant to what I said. Seachama.

>>69746417
>and pekora once went to her house
Completely unbelievable to assume Pekora would be anywhere that isn't her room or the studio.

>>69744220
hes too busy raping mika

>>69746544
It isn't rape if it is consensual

>>69741888
Is it the same falseflagging retards posting every single time in this bait thread to shit on hololive/vshojo talents?

>>69741888
>more success
>doesn't have a tumor for a fanbase
She really IS a genius...

>>69746520
>>69746522
Jill escaped and Henya happened to find her on a stroll to the conbini and recognized it from the pictured Pekora posted on twitter. She then DM'd Pekora's manager and arranged to have Pekora come collect him but when she arrived she pulled out a knife and accused Henya of being a monkey thief and called her a muggle. Henya talked about this in an unarchived member's stream.

>>69746587
Vsj only has 10 livers and half of them not even streaming much, yet these obsessed retarded monkeys couldn’t stfu about them.

>>69746417
They don't know anything but rrats, its all they know and the only way they can think in regards to vshojo. Its like how Depressed Nousagi released that "Is Vshojo DYING?!??!" video and everyone parroted his talking points for weeks like they were a business major and when Vshojo got Henya and Matara he released a different video, "How did Vshojo turn it around!?!?" and everyone pretended they didn't act like idiots that jumped to conclusions. In particular the nijifags I remember having a field day so I hope they're having fun now.

>>69746234
Mata only has the influence and power she has now because Mouse allowes it. Mouse is the queen bee in that house and Zen is head bitch.

>>69746587
yes >>69745660

>>69741888
nah, biboo is better

>>69746480
Okay but does Kson still do non coombait streams with people who aren't pornstars?

this thread is just a bunch catalogfaggots and ndf trying to dig up year old bait in an attempt to save faggotsanji and a bunch of dumbass henyafags biting the stale low quality bait

>>69746702
Thanks god there is Zen for Henya, if not she could have turn into Nazuna 2.0

>>69746752
you could find out yourself in 5 seconds

>>69746766
old but still relevant, more relevant than vshojo as a whole actually

>>69746752
shes doing one right now. her gunpla/random kusoge streams are comfy

>>69746766
/thread

>>69746814
Found a faggotsanji

>>69741888
Not having to deal with perms autism and idol reps I would imagine sounded great to Henya.

>>69741888
Why would she want to, though? Why would they want her? She made her choice for her own reasons which were probably more well thought out than some rando's 4chins grudgepost.

OP fails to notice Henya is an actual womanchild. Just listen to how she talks about her parents and how absolutely dependent she is. In Hololive she'd have to do actual work, like taking dance and singing lessons, attending meetings, doing projects and reports.

VShojo will let her continue to hide away from the real world while still earning decent income.

>>69746814
yea so irrelvant they dominate twitch and win streamer of the year. i hope your blacksanji faggots all get terminated and end up working in walmart sister

>>69741888
glad she failed, biboo is my daughter

>>69746888
Yeah I think she makes Aqua look independent by comparison which is a feat.

>>69746689
I refuse to believe this actually happened lol but I also see pekora being crazy about her retarded monkey. I don't know anon I might end up believing it kek

>>69746792
I only watch whores when I have my dick out and I'm not in the mood right now.
>>69746833
Good for her. She's not really my type but it's good that she's still her old self, at least sometimes.

>>69746995
brown

>>69746902
She never think about joining in the first place. She’s already a 4view, no reason to join holo to be slave.

>>69746995
you have no idea and have never watched coco/kson outside of your brown faggot clips she has always been like that even before hololive and shes living her best life grabbing graveur idol tits, dating guutara, fulling her dream to simp for kiryu and having the freedom to do anything she wants

Love Biboo, Love Henya.
Also, 3,055. Key support level for Anycolor. Pay attention sisters, tomorrow your company is in a literal fight for its financial future. Next support level 2,650. (Post buy-back). Meanwhile, Holo built a studio (ongoing revenue stream) and has pegged 2024 as a springboard to overseas markets (ID4 and EN4 likely). Whilst your CEO let one of its two remaining oversea branches burn to the ground and crippled any foreign expansion plans. Accelerate wont get them out of this.
Again, take my kami-oshii's name out your dipshit mouth.
If Pomu goes EN4 i'll be just as excited as if she comes to vsho. I want POMU to be happy. I dont care if her corp is happy (though let me throw you a bone 2100 (cover) so you can cover your niji losses). If she doesnt get the letter, she's off to idol paradise (NOT NIJI). If she does, the uber-gremlin prophesy is realized: mouse, henya, pomu.

>>69747121
With any other chuuba I'd think its a rrat but I'm genuinely curious as to whether or not Kson is drowing in pussy and has had multiple lesbian orgies at this point.

https://streamable.com/c2cyfb?src=player-page-share

Why does OP hate Biboo so much? Did she kill his pet hamster or something?

>>69747374
SEAniggers hate the Thai.

>>69746395
this. Mousey IS vshojo

>>69744886
NTA, but here it goes...
>She owns a shitty IP
That's you opinion. Also, VShojo members can replace their avatars at any time, so if she didn't like it, she would have changed it by now.
>Of course she does
They keep 100% of memberships and superchats and only have to split merch revenue. However, they are allowed to organize their own merch as well. There is/was a clip of nyanners or ironmouse talking about it on YT.
>This isn't how collabs works
I think what that anon meant is that there are no persona non grata. No holo will ever be able to collab with Kson or homos collab with vesper/magni, but in VShojo, members can collab with anyone they like as long as the other party is willing to accept.
>Hololive servers are modded
Those are server-side mods. Thing with MC mods is that they have different licenses, and some of those mods even forbid packaging them with other mods. VShojo server is heavily modded, and to have something like that on Holo, managers would have to check a fuck ton of different licenses and provide instructions how to install each mod. On top of that, someone from hololive would actually have to pitch the idea of having such a server, which still hasn't happened.
>Kanata and Gura have official dakis too
Dunno about Kanata, but you know damn well it took Gura a long time to get her daki because she wasn't initially allowed to have one. Things only moved ahead when she went to Japan. Unnecessary hurdles like that simply don't exist in the pink company.
>Ignorance is Bliss
You don't seem to understand that holo life is not for Henya nor did she want to join, or she would have done so when Council debuted. She's a borderline NEET hikikomori girl. Henya has no interest in traveling to the office to do dance/singing lessons or meet a fuck ton of new people. VShojo is the best place FOR HER because she's not forced to do anything, there are no huge expectations to meet, all shit's taken care of by her managers and corpo autism is kept to a minimum.

>>69745226
NTA but lol. VShojo can't compare to Cover. But I don't think it has to.
The other anon's right though, if we have to compare. She would most definitely have more viewers and opportunities in hololive. She'd be a great fit too. She'd easily get along with FuwaMoco, Bijou, Calli and Ina, who she's already collabed with. Add some awesome genmates and bam, she'd feel right at home.
But maybe she doesn't want to do all the stuff hololive has to do. Maybe she really doesn't know what she's missing out on. Food for thought, but I believe going to Cover would be a step up if she wants to work harder.

>>69747839
>>69745411

>>69747839
Hololive may be larger but Vshojo has many advantages over them anyway, you are just to stubborn to admit or adress them.
For example why do you think there are no collabs with those Holos you mentioned? It's because it's a pain the ass to collab with them because of Hololive.

>>69747839
Liver dont own the ip in holo. That’s the biggest problem.

>>69744886
>She could have big solo concerts with all the music and there was a future where she joined Holo and collabed with Cup Noodles and Reese's.
fucking kek.
Imagine calling selling out a positive

>>69748152
Nigger where did you come from? Who are you trying to bait with this?

>>69748202
Yea obviously she wants a Nissin Cup Noodle™ concert that's every video game streamer's dream

>>69747979
>For example why do you think there are no collabs with those Holos you mentioned? It's because it's a pain the ass to collab with them because of Hololive.
Honestly one of the biggest advantages of vshojo is probably that they don't have the same kind of jp corpo autism that jp corpos have while still being pretty competent from what we've seen and heard of it currently. The only one manager fuck up I can recall is that nux debacle and that's been like 2 years past now. The actual trade off and biggest "issue" is of course that Vshojo is far more exclusive and they don't like taking risks to such a degree that if you're not bringing a following in with you, you're not likely to get in.

>>69744886
>Kson is the only one that I think has an amazing design
excuse me?

im sure henya would love to be called a whore by neckbeards and third worlders because she tweeted at a man once

>>69743042
Nijis trying to stir up Holo vs Vshojo conflict to deflect from their dumpster fire.

>>69749429
Thank you for bumping this awful bait thread from page 9.

>>69741888
>other people are now running with my bait thread
Is this how a proud parent feels like?

>>69750087
>holobegging phaseshitter
classic

>>69750087
I'm very disappointed in you kanpainiki.

Reminder that there is a world where pikamee joins nijisanji to be with her friends pomu and millie in EN.

>>69750087
I'll accept a tenma wrangle and pep talk for henya. Outside that, get Frikk'd.

not you, by the way.

>>69750087
Tenma would be very disappointed in you, anon. I bet you didn't take part in her Valentine's Muscular Bodies review

>>69743999
Nyanner's model existed before Vshojo tho

Love watching bronies seethe at my very successful stinky daughter

oh it's this bait thread again

>>69741888
Hololive is an awful place for anyone with talent and ambitions. It doesn't take a genius to realize that.

>>69742780
>doesn't have to split her money with an agency
I knew you fags were retarded, but come on.
How else would a corpo make money? Do you think Vshojo is some charity fund?

>>69747839
If she was in hololive she would be struggling to make a living and all of her "fans" would be from SEA. That's the worst you could wish on any vtuber.

>>69751527
Vshojo makes more than enough from their own merch and they still manage to provide better support that whoros would ever dream of.

>>69751527
>can't imagine an agency not being the most greedy thing on earth
Grim.

>>69741888
Glad she didn't and Hololive got a far superior Biboo

>>69751527
vshojo takes less money because they don't have to fund a 200 man game development team

>>69751527
Let just say that livers hire vshojo. Vshojo doesnt own them.

>>69746689
>called her a muggle
Made me kek

>>69741888
>joins Vcircus
>singlehandedly makes it watchable
Based kettle

>>69747481
>Gura a long time to get her daki because she wasn't initially allowed to have one.
This is why we have Jap-sama now.

>>69751941
Henya is the best thing happened to Vshojo last year.

The funniest thing about these threads is vshojo fans rushing in to say that the thread is a falseflag while simultaneously shitting on hololive.

>>69752169
But it's the holofans coming in here shitting on vshojo

The funniest thing about these threads is holoragers rushing in and being angry and retarded because they can't distinguish between hololive fans, hololive talents, and hololive as a business.

>>69752274
Rightfully so and that still doesn't change the fact that you shit on hololive while crying about getting "falseflagged" despite having the exact same intentions as OP.

>>69752287
Say one good thing about a hololive talent and why they shouldn't leave hololive.
The truth is that you can't answer this question because we both know that you hate everything related to hololive. This "w-w-well the talents are good" cover has never worked.

>>69752346
Nobody complained about falseflagging. Authentic holobeggars make these threads.

>>69741888
her streams are fun, I'm very happy for her success and leaving the (light gray) company, but as an EOP I'm distracted by the 50% JP content on the streams - it slows things down, and also her collabing with / recognizing the existence of other vshojo members Zen

>>69752420
hi lingling

>>69752420
Another holoretard right here angry because he can't differentiate talents from the business.

>>69752425
>Nobody complained about falseflagging.
>>69746587
>Authentic holobeggars make these threads.
>>69750087

>>69752523
Just say that you hate Vshojo.

>>69752475
But that's you given your inability to say a single good thing about any hololive talent and why they should not leave hololive.

>>69752169
I biboo. I henya.

Get fucked astroturfer. I will drunk solve this capcha(on mobile) just to prove you wrong.

>>69752598
Why do you want the talents to stay in an exploitative company if you care about them so much?

>>69752565
I do hate vshojo. It's a shit company with shitty two-faced "talents" and fans who act like they're "pro-talent" but would happily demolish the careers of several dozen people if they could.

>>69752670
I don't think it's an exploitative company.
Why do you struggle so much to say a single good thing about any hololive talent? It's becoming increasingly obvious that you hate each and every single one of them for enabling the existence of a company that you believe to be evil.

this thread is very simple
i like holo
i like vshojo
i do not like nijisanji and the bait threads the NDF post to undermine us, now i must prepare for the 6 hour henry stream tonight

>>69752753
I don't struggle to say anything nice about the talents. What I struggle with is saying both something nice about the talents and something nice about their business because I have different opinions about those things because they are different things. I understand that it doesn't seem that way when you are a brainwashed drone but you are wrong and stupid.

>>69741888
I'm pretty sure graduating from one JP corpo to join another JP corpo is a red flag for suicide.

The heart didnt come through, so i will solve it again... eugh... i love biboo. I also love henya, get fucked (op).

>>69752853
>I don't struggle to say anything nice about the talents
Then why haven't you said anything like about them? Clearly you struggle a lot. You will probably kill yourself if your fellow vshojoCHADs catch you complimenting anyone from hololive.
>What I struggle with is saying both something nice about the talents and something nice about their business
No one asked you to say anything like about the business.
>I have different opinions about those things because they are different things.
Then say something nice about the talents and why they all should graduate from hololive right now.
>you are a brainwashed drone
Says the guy going "uhhhh hololive baaaaad!" without any actual reasons. The truth is that you want everyone in hololive to suffer for not being on the "right" team.

>>69752682
Now let not talk abot niji

>>69753122
>Then why haven't you said anything like about them?
You demanded me to write something I disagreed with twice but if you just want that then let me talk about them. I really like Mel, she is cute and funny and a great singer. Her 3D is also really expressive and it's cute how supportive she is to her kohai.
>No one asked you to say anything like about the business.
You did, twice. Holo brain damage is common on this board I don't blame you for forgetting.
>Then say something nice about the talents and why they all should graduate from hololive right now.
They are all talented and funny and can succeed on their own. They would be better off setting up long term solo careers that can't be deleted on a whim.

>>69752682
Nigger you just described Nijisanji.

>>69752682
But enough about niji

>>69753310
>still pretending to like Mel
The only reason you're naming her specifically is because she's not with the company anymore. Let's hear you say something about someone who's still with the company and will never leave, like Marine.
>You did, twice.
I didn't. I said say something nice and why they shouldn't leave hololive. That's not asking you to say anything like about the company.
>They are all talented and funny and can succeed on their own. They would be better off setting up long term solo careers that can't be deleted on a whim.
Then say that everyone from hololive should graduate right now. Say it.
Your belief also means that none of them stood up to what Cover allegedly did to kson since they wouldn't graduate with her. No, it doesn't matter that kson told them not to.

>>69741888
She's happy, having fun, owns her own IP and has a new bestie in Zen. Seems like she made the right choice to me.

>>69753122
>>69752753
>>69753706
NTA but what the fuck fuck is this obession
>say it say it say it say it say it

>>69753812
I ask you to say it because you won't say it. You pretend to be pro-talent but can't actually say anything positive about any of them and you want to destroy their careers.

>>69741888
No thanks. Nothing against pikameee/henya, but I much prefer the gamer/shitposter biboo that we got.

>>69753706
>nooooooo you can't like mel she didn't have big enough nooombers
lol
>That's not asking you to say anything like about the company.
Yes it is.
>Then say that everyone from hololive should graduate right now.
I did already.
>Your belief also means that none of them stood up to what Cover allegedly did to kson since they wouldn't graduate with her. No, it doesn't matter that kson told them not to.
I don't care.

>>69754031
Sour grapes much? lol

>>69746126
Nothing will ever top Pikamee's model.

>>69754081
You don't like Mel. You only pretend to like her because she's loosely related to kson.
You yourself said that you only watch vtubers who stream long hours and speak English which means you wouldn't like Mel.
It's nice to see how you still can't say anything nice about anyone who's actually in hololive because you hate them for supporting the company you hate with your entire being.

>>69741888
>There's literally only upsides for her not joining
Weird bait, dayo

>>69754185
I don't watch any vtubers that speak English.

>>69743398
you think people give a fuck about that insignificant award show run by a bunch of plebians?

>>69754308
You do according to this thread
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/68095129/#68105934
Your were for some reason seething about hololive "not streaming" while exclusing all of the main branch because you don't care about them. It's also very interesting how someone who doesn't watch vtubers that speak English is this invested in defending twitch subathons.

>>69741888
It's a good thing she didn't, it feels great to finally have someone who enjoys playing and is good at videogames on HoloEN.
Gamer gen never fucking ever, but at least we have her.

>>69754239
Needs more dayo

>>69754568
Every time I see you in a thread there are like 3 other guys arguing with you and you accuse all of them of being me.

>>69754689
I have never accused anyone of being you. I only call you out when you actually show up.
You just got exposed as an ENtuber fan who doesn't watch Japanese vtubers. It's time to stop pretending.

>>69754757
God you're stupid.

Loved watching her shit on holobronies after she couldn't pronounce "comb"
>weeeh henya has changed since she joined the Vshojo bleh bleh bleh bleh

>>69748053
>Liver
Nijisister please

>>69745735
How biboo fake to you. If biboo was fake she'd be using her loli model to rope all the retard unicorns into super chatting via gfe. She's not gfe she loves her fans and appreciate them to the point she'll stream for them during her days off. Fuck off henyafag retards like you are the reason people shit on henya even though the poor girl doesn't deserve it you disingenuous cunt.

>>69741888
I'm more than happy with the Koseki Bijou we got, so everything worked out perfectly

>>69746395
What happened to Melody? Did she die?

>>69755195
Biboo and Kaela combined are the most powerful streaming force known to man.

>>69755249
Nothing

>>69755025
What are you on? Niji is the most dogshit vtuber company next to wactor. And the livers there dont own the ip too. I just don’t like company completely own the ip. What the point of watching and supporting them knowing most of the money will go to some oldfuck jap

Loved watching bronies go from REMEMBER WHAT LE TRANNIES TOOK FROM YOU to SHE'S A WHORE ANYWAYS I HOPE SHE DIES in the span of 6 weeks

>>69745053
Yeah, as if making it into a cheap twitch whorehouse is worth a damn.

>>69755355
Nobody gives shit about what you like, stop using nijisisters terms like "Livers" if you don't want to be called out as such.

>>69754892
Concession accepted, fake kapumin. You never liked Mel. You pretended to be outraged over her firing while apparently also believing that nobody should remain in hololive.
Your only identity is being a twitch "indie" simp that hates hololive.

>>69755320
Weird, she used to be clique queen, did something change?

>>69755195
Chillout im not hating on biboo. It’s just feel like she just acting sometimes. But that’s just me.

>>69748202
I'm sure it's every vtubers dream to sell cheap instant noodles and chocolate made with vomit.

>>69745388
Have you considered that unlike 90% of Niji EN, Niji JP talents are actually decent?

>>69755464
>You pretended to be outraged over her firing while apparently also believing that nobody should remain in hololive.
Wow that's weird it's almost like her firing made evident the issues with hololive.
>Your only identity is being a twitch "indie" simp that hates hololive.
Projection.

>>69755195
Anyone that needed hololive to get discovered is fake. It shows that their personality is determined by management and they would never make it on their own.

>>69755429
Then call what? Streamers?
Also you want the company to completely own the ip? Why?

>>69745735
If Biboo is fake then you must be the fakest moron that ever exists.

>>69755429
yea they are called "vups" everyone knows that

>>69755355
How new

>>69742780
Where can I buy that daki?

>>69755563
>everyone I don't like is fake
Sure nijinigger you can drop the henyafag mask now. Everyone can already see through you and even smell rikus ass in your breath.

>>69755558
Those "issues" will never be "fixed" so you really did just pretend to be mad. You never actually cared about Mel or her getting fired. You never watched her and will continue to not watch her.
>Projection.
I don't think you understand what that word means.

>>69755594
>Then call what? Streamers?
Lurk moar and you will know.

>>69755650
>nijinigger
Why do you think I don't believe that the same applies to niji?

>>69755652
Just say that you don't care about the hololive girls.
>You never watched her and will continue to not watch her.
Speak for yourself. I recall telling you about conversations she had on stream that you weren't aware of last time I saw you.

>>69750923
Nazuna left with her model then and she's still streaming

Stop being faggots and look at my cute stinky kettle

>>69745363
>Why is being a retirement home a bad thing?
Because NijiEN is full of backstabbing snakes, CCP drones and faggots.

>>69755635
sales ended already so you'll have to get it on ebay later

>>69755477
She was never really in a clique because she was so heavily involved in putting together the original roster. Would be unprofessional to have a talent involved in major decisions running a clique within a vtuber agency. Seriously, what sort of company would do that?

>>69755759
The funny thing is she still keep the VShojo tag

>>69755389
this is why this specific bait is so effective, they can't be mad at Henya lest they will become like the trannies they swore to destroy but can't let VShojo have the w either
also deep down they know that Bijou is shit (Henya is Japanese and funny ffs)

10/10 well-made bait right here!

>>69755766
So far it's been 2 nijis, 2 holos and a voms.

>>69755715
You aren't going to fool anybody here anymore yacht maintenance guy.

>>69741888
lol no
the biboo that we ended getting is miles better than her. henys doesn’t come close, especially with that shitty model.

>>69744886
>there was a future where she joined Holo and collabed with Cup Noodles and Reese's
there's no Reese's. in Japan and you clearly doesn't watch her to explain this wall of text.

>>69755755
>Just say that you don't care about the hololive girls.
Oh so I hate them because I don't want to forcibly destroy their entire careers and make them do all the work on their own now? I care about them and their success which your favorite vtuber will never ever reach.
>I recall telling you about conversations she had on stream
LOL. And you claimed I was accusing others of being you.
No, you have never told me anything like that but me saying this doesn't matter because you will just say I'm lying and everyone that you believe to be me is actually me. The fucking irony.

>>69755919

>>69755894
Why do you suck yagoo cock so much? He is not any better than yachtman. What he lacks in greediness he makes up in creepiness.

>>69755940
You hate them because you don't think they're good enough to make it without a billion dollar corporation stealing all their money to make a shitty genshin impact clone. You've never said a single nice thing about the holo girls in any thread I've seen you in.

Henya has 5k ccv on twitch. Why would she want to join holo? She already makes more money than a hiki like her can reasonably spend.

Biboo on the other hand did not have 5000 ccv before joining holo.

>>69754083
No? I just like Biboo better.

Another bait thread successful, thanks for the (You)s!

>>69746522
Pekora is rumi, rumi's 'leech' is actually jill and henya calls it a leech because its a fucking monkey and half of their spending goes to keeping a fucking moneky alive in their shared apartment.

>>69755518
maybe try watching stream

>888
may as well be 0

>>69743422
and that's her charm as a vtuber. she's a natural who always goes freestyle. Nothing about her is "fake" as in already prepared or pre watched or set up. Everyday is a surprise.
She's extremely lazy but sweet. that's why spergs who claim she's missed being in holo are crazy and probably never watched or clipwatchers.

>>69756001
They can't do the same things that they can do with the company, but I get that it's hard for a twitch "vtuber" fan to not understand this because the only thing you care about is streams.
>You've never said a single nice thing about the holo girls in any thread I've seen you in.
I don't attack them and the company they belong to while pretending to secretly be a big fan of them like you do. I don't need to prove that I don't hate them while you do.
I support them in what they are doing and will continue to do so while you seethe at each and every single thing they achieve under the name of the evil company that you hate so much.

>>69756048
not to mention, Henya keeps 100% of all sub, donation & bit money

If you're able to make a living as an indie (or in a laissez-faire company like VShojo) why would you want all the autistic restrictions that come with Hololive?

>>69755972
what copium lol henya's model is poopy poo. also who are you even trying to impress by using a biboo image lul

>>69756180
>100%
CEO Jeffu-san takes half

>>69756173
You're a company shill you don't care about them at all you'd cheer if they did layoffs and fired half of them.

>>69745515
kek

>>69756101
I did tried. But got bored. The clips is fun. Love those.

>>69755833
Why did she even leave?

>>69755985
>The guy kissing ass then being unfaithful manwhore to riku by sucking vshojo ceo dick. Said this.

Riku is not going to treat you like a human being doing all of this deflection sister.

>>69756235
twitch takes 30% now, same as youtube

>>69756048
>>69756180
>This is what the average vShojoke shills actually believe
How utterly delusional.

>>69756343
>they believe actual facts
FUCKING WHOOOOOOOOORES

>>69756343
>>69745411

>>69756236
>You're a company shill
I'm as much of a "company shill" as any of the talents. Are you accusing them of being soulless company shills are well? You have to be.
>you don't care about them at all
But that's you. You wish for all of them to be knocked out of the support system they have and to have to handle each and every single thing on their own.
>you'd cheer if they did layoffs and fired half of them.
Now you're just projecting.

>>69755985
Cause he's a chad unlike your literal who twitch whorehouse CEO

>>69756227
If you were talking abt the one she dbut with then ok that’s fair. But the new ones is way better than biboo. And the rigging is not even close. Holo’rigging is absolute garbage.

>>69755833
the vshojotag has Japanese kanji next to it that means EX or graduated

>>69756305
>>69756419
Gunrun is the best CEO of them all because he shouldn't even be spoken about. He doesn't put himself in the center of everything.
I shouldn't even be making this post but I now have to because you brought him up for no real reason.

>>69756381
>Facts
LMAO

Yeah, "facts".

>>69756407
>holodrones think you can't have a manager without paying more than half of your paycheck to them

>>69756419
Good lord if I wanted to castrate Yagoo I'd kick you in the jaw

>>69756235
no, Twitch's cut for subs and bits is 30%.
So of the money she receives from Twitch she gets to keep 100%

>>69756507
Prove Vshojo takes a cut then. Should be easy. Or does your Jakarta Mobile plan not cover Twitch?

How powerful is the small dog syndrome for henya that she needs to be defended this hard in a bait thread?

>>69745411
>>69756383
>holosisters
Go f*** yourself, braindead frogposter/falseflagging Nijisister.

>>69743091
You had three people that left with their character and channel last year. Yes they own it. Good luck having that with Jap corpos. Only western corpos might have the grace to let leaving members keep their channels and model.

>>69756343
Yes how dare I believe you can live comfortably off of 5000 ccv.

>>69756642
are you pmsing sister calm down. that's not a frog it's a bean.

>>69756531
I never said that, retard. Having your own manager all on your own is still more work than just joining a company that will provide you with one. That singular manager is also not going to provide connections to media production, advertising, merchandising, sponsorships and the rest.
It seems like you don't understand what a manager is.

>>69756629
What happened? You sounded so confident earlier. Are they being mean to you?

>>69756501
So he's non-existent? Good to know.
>>69756544
Now say that without crying me a river.

>>69756501
That's because he's too lazy to do his fucking job and has ironlung handling company stuff for him. All of ironlung nepohires confirm this.

>>69756745
It's not polite to talk with your mouth full.

>>69756677
Isnt it like 7 k now? And when Mouse’s award she had 10k. Kettle has been doing good.

>>69756742
Bro I literally just woke up and saw 300 posts of people writing entire novels saying "No henya's fine where she is!" in a Vtuber versus vtuber thread. It doesn't get any small dog than that.

>>69756717
They don't even have their own managers they share them which is why they have to do half the work themselves and attend fuckloads of meetings. The company does the bare minimum so they can employ as many Genshin devs as possible.

>>69756705
A frog wearing a bean costume is still a frog, Nijincel. Go back to whatever shitty discord server you came from.

>>69741888
Holobegars..

>>69741888
>999IQ
>using twitch
>all the vods vanish after 30 days

??????????????

>>69742060
SUPER

>>69741888
>little does he know that she never planned to sign a contract with Hololive
KEK

>>69756853
Yeah you clearly don't understand what a manager does. Let me know when Mel organizes her own expo and vtuber concert solo, fake kampumin.

>>69756897
that's a 7tv emote, niji uses youtube. get your facts straight sister you're being hysterical.

>>69751941
unironically this

>>69756607
How do you think vshojo makes money? Use your brain... if you even have one.

>>69756915
Nobody watches VODs.

>>69757033
True.

>>69756981
She has had her own concert and fan expo, more than once. Maybe you should pay attention to your talents instead of ignoring them while you shill the company.

>>69756792
It's not polite to show off your rotted brain to the public.

>>69756915
it's 90 days.
She's also uploading vods worth saving longer than that on youtube.

>>69757034
>what do you mean he's an insanely wealthy Twitch founder that makes his income from backpacks?
>what the FUCK IS A SPONSORSHIP?
>no, every CEO must be as avaricious as mine!

>>69756956
This really, as I mentioned in an earlier post. Henya is an actual house hermit. She values her privacy and peace of mind over anything else. Vshojo happens to facilitate that for her. Under cover she'd be under pressure because that would mean leaving her house and dealing with her social anxiety around strangers. She just want to stream only something cover won't allow.

>>69743422
>is that she cannot keep a schedule ever. She never posts one
her twitch page literally has a schedule subpage, retard

>>69757034
>Vshojo helps talent get a sponsorship, Vshojo gets a small cut of it
>Vshojo sells merch, gets a small cut of it
i know this like rocket science for a mudhutter like yourself, but that's it.

>>69757034
Merch. Sponsor that they that they pulled. And they only have 10 members and 3 of them rarely streaming. I think you forgot how small vshojo is. Also henya can do her own merch if she want and not give vsj a dime.

>>69743723
phasëcucks usually

>>69757070
An IRL meetup at a small venue is not what I asked, retard. She has not organized a vtuber concert on her own. There are indies who have, but they still hire one of those things you dread the most: a company.
>you shill the company.
Again, if I'm shilling the company then so do all of the talents. You hate me so you also hate them. Why do you hate all of the talents who choose to work with Cover?
You are so anti-talent it's ridiculous. You don't care about what they want one bit and want to forcibly destroy their careers and kick them out to the streets to handle everything on their own. Why are you like this?
Also, stop pretending to like Mel. She is friends with Marine who is a massive "company shill". She would not be happy to see you hate one of her friends but you don't care because you never liked her.

>>69744425
>and I'm not watching her
"opinion" discarded.

>>69757296
>moving the goalposts
concession accepted

>>69756989
>Uses a modified frog image
>No no no I'm not frogposting I swear
Yawn

A Nijisister like (You) calling others sister is really bad deflection attempt.

>>69757324
Why are you lying? I literally said
>expo and vtuber concert
and you started acting smugly because she has done an IRL meetup. She is not even a vtuber.

>>69757033
>>69757064
Source: Your ass?

>>69744611
>and be forced to go outside and socialize.
and be forced to be unicuck friendly, when she hates them and isn't even into men

>>69757350
Repeating ignorance is called retard anon.

>>69755558
>it's almost like her firing made evident the issues with hololive.
What? Mel did something stupid, got fired for it like she would in any company worth working for, what is the problem?

>>69757403
The source is every single vtuber fan. Nobody watches VODs, especially on Twitch. VODs don't matter. They could be deleted immediately after the stream ends and no one would care.

>>69756783
>ironlung nepohires
Everyone hired likes Zentreya
Zentreya claimed Henya
Vei even still watched Zentreya's latest outfit reveal

Ironmouse is the scapegoat and Zentreya's the real clique queen

>>69757350
>there are no people other than holofags and nijifags reeeee
you're so stupid, that's how i know you're a w*m*n.

>>69757134
If you think that alone is enough to fund an entire company then you're fucking stupid.

>>69744886
>She could have big solo concerts with all the music
except she doesn't even want to do karaoke streams. she was bugged about it multiple times, and you know shit's serious when she outright says no to something.

>>69757449
>hololive
>company worth working for
lmao

>>69757402
So she's done more on her own than she did with the billion dollar company siphoning half of her income? Great, we agree now.

>>69757324
NTA but your falseflagging is crystal clear by now.

>>69757552
She hasn't done an expo and a vtuber concert. She did both several times in hololive.

>>69746234
>Blocked sayu from being hired.
you're outright lying now, Sayu never wanted to get into VShojo

>>69757483
Yeah you clearly know what "every single vtuber fans" think. Riiiiiiiiiight...

>>69757766
That anon knows. Trust him.

>>69757523
>noooooooooooo you can't run a 10 person agency with merch cuts sponsors and hundreds of millions of dollars from Bezos buying Twitch!
>lol, backpacks

>>69757442
>>69757499
Falseflag harder, Nijitrash. Uki is retard btw.

>>69757523
You easily can when you don't inflate the budget on a shitty Genshin clone and a shitty overpriced barely functional 3D studio nobody even uses.

>>69751527
>Do you think Vshojo is some charity fund?
considering they're running on venture capital? yes.

>>69757825
What kind of delusion-inducing substance are you consuming? Must be quite effective if you're willing to die on that hill so badly.

>>69754893
that was really funny indeed

>>69757483
not entirely true, some people watch vods to catch up on recent streams.
But after a week they could be deleted and no one would care.

>>69757916
>G-Genshin clone
>NOBODY USES THE 3D STUDIO! IT'S SHITTY HAHAHAHAHAA
Jealous much, Vshojocuck?

>>69757916
now say this without bawling your eyes out

>>69758047
Alright, Mohammed. Prove to me that they're taking a cut. Cite sources.

>>69757033
we EUfags do, since her streams start after midnight our time.

>>69758186
>>69758259
Not a single non-holo vtuber cares about those things which goes to show how wasteful they really are.

>>69758186
>new studio that they can only use half as much as the old one
nice investment

>>69758186
>Y-YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS OF OUR WASTEFUL SPENDING!

>>69757827
>dropping info about an organ only women watch
is that really the defense you're going with

>>69758337
If only they spent 10% of that to improve the dogshit rigging

>>69758641
You really get all the short ends of all the sticks by being in holo.

>>69758186
no one cares about Holo because they're bad at what they do.
Literally every indie has a better rigged 2d model than Holo.
And the indies that actually care to have a 3d model also have way, way, way better ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4tlmW1Cj9U just look at this and compare to the garbage Holo produces.

>>69758912
Sounding pretty defensive there, anon. If no one cares about holo then why do you have to even say it outloud?

>>69758186
Literally nobody is jealous of hololive. It's a miracle they can even find 5 people every 2 years that are willing to join when they just end up worse off than before.

>>69750274
>>69750590
>>69750902
I genuinely love Pikamee/Henya(and Biboo, and Tenma)
I just like making these threads because other anons who love Pikamee/Henya come out of the woodwork to show how much they love her and that makes me happy.

>>69760039
It's literally insane how crazed Henya fans come out of the woodwork when a thread mentions her

>>69760435
(you) won't take her away from us AGAIN.