/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>NotPomu follows Gunrun's account on Xitter
Oh yeah, it's happening

>>69682300
OH NO NO CHUDBROS
WHAT DO WE DO NOW

>>69682119
Who's Pomu anyway?

>>69682429
In the end, Pomu was the friends we made along the way.

>>69682429
Me

>>69682119
>Matara goes in
>NEED CONTROL.cmd
>gets Mysta in
>gets Pomu in
*You are here* it just hasn't been revealed to the public
>gets Enna in
>kicks Ironmouse
>Henya doesn't care
>everyone else doesn't matter
>gets Millie in
>gets Elira in
Losing Nyanners was the first step of this tragedy.

There is no proof she's not hanging out with NIJIEN people you dumb fuck.

>>69682940
Once you get to
>You are here
Toss it.

>>69683001
There isn't any proof that she isn't hanging out with me either, but people don't assume I'm poppin' Pomu's ass right now.

>>69683001
she posted a video with a frog plushie and you can hear elira's voice as the video starts
https://twitter.com/dearsqn/status/1760289518559862934

>>69682119
Kuro even met with holostars EN instead of Niki in japan

>>69683669
Go see a doctor, anon, you have a looooot of hearing issues

>>69683672 (me)
Niji*

>>69682119
Not Japan but Matara was hanging out with Millie in Cancuck like a month or two ago.

Managing to lose Pomu and Doki who are the best EN talents period (either company) should get whatever retard in JP asked for it fired.

>>69683741
The Cause :Supported

>>69683669
That was Emuri

>>69682300
RIP. Nothing good ever comes out of joining vshitshow. I'll remember her as a great chuuba.

>>69683839
Enna and Elira were (still are) their #3 and #4 female talents respectively and their reputation has suffered massively, so the situation is pretty fucking grim for the branch.

>>69682940
Why in the fuck would they want Enna?? After all the bullying allegations and how poorly she handled it? Vshojo looks like they’re trying to better establish themselves and avoid drama, literally why would they want Enna? As if Enna is going to ever leave niji anyways

>>69683001
They've all made it very obvious publically who they are hanging out with. If they hung out with ANY NijiEN they'd tease it. I could accept them not mentioning meeting Vox, Ike, or Elira, but there are other ENs in Japan and there hasn't been a peep.
Fact is: they want nothing to do with anybody in NijiEN

>>69683790
Yeah before this shit broke out which changed Matara's view on their relationship

>>69684116
Vshojo are the major leagues of girl bullying, Enna would eat and leave no crumbs.

>>69684060
>let's be giant assholes to one of our best talents and fire them in a bad way after they nearly lost their life
do they not have feelings in Japan

>>69684116
Nina is literally part of the clique, you obtuse nigger. Of course she will try to bring in the rest of the clique

>>69682119
sounded like matara met with rosemi

>>69684199
>Enna would eat and leave no crumbs.
>enna managing to get off the blacklist ever
roru
rumao even

>>69683042
How are you feeling Momo?
I'm feeling great and I know it will just get better.

>>69684286
No anon, I like Pomu, Rosemi, Vivi, Nina, and Petra, so they're all not part of the clique. The vtubers I already hated like Enna, Millie and all the males are actually the only members of the clique.

>>69684340
There's no proof of that.

>>69684504
There is just as much proof as there is of Selen being bullied

>>69684410
Cozy and optimistic.

>>69684504
Nijisanji wrote it on nina's graduation letter?

>>69684688
the hell does Nina's graduation letter have to do with her not meeting Rosemi in Japan?

>>69684144
>which changed Matara's view on their relationship
So what, Matara didn't know what was happening in the company before then or what?

>>69684810
no, because nina wasn't in the clique, enna was bullying her

>>69684810
She left in mid 2023. She didn't know that Selen was bullied into near suicide in December.

>>69684859
>>69684876

>>69685085
No, but I really want to see a .LIVE repeat where a former talent slanders the company into oblivion, followed by being exposed as a liar long after.

>>69682119
>Pomu goes to Japan
>Hangs out with Vshojo and indies, doesn't meet with the NijiEN organs
Is that right? I'm always out of these loops.

>>69684286
Nina was literally excluded from the clique wtf are you talking about you clown

>>69683741
>pic
gay

>>69684286
Nina personally went to extreme lengths to try to stop the clique, and was forced to quit because of it

>>69684351
Being on the BLACKEDlist is a requirement to join Vhoejo

>>69683741
VShoujo will steal all nijisanji vtubers.

>>69684286
Nina confirmed the existence of the clique by talking about she got excluded in discord.

>>69685273
She hung out with Onigiri and Matara at an idol venue.

>>69684876
Selen probably had an exaggerated reaction due to her mental illness but that doesn't excuse the horrendous behavior from managers and other talents since that happened.

>>69686085
>>69685798
>>69685505
>get excluded and forced out by clique members
>pay money to visit and hug clique members after graduation
>hangout with clique members after graduation
Care to explain that?

>>69682119
They'll be fine.

>>69685911
nah only the good ones.

>>69684060
>their #3 and #4 female talents
only do to favoritism

>>69687492
holy shit

>>69682940
Vshojo wouldn't get any of NijiEN after Selen's drama, it would be a really bad call

>>69684774
It was meant for >>69684547

>>69686206
It's harder to believe that it was exaggerated, due to what we are seeing in twitter and how they treat people who are not for them, what more do you think they tell each other in private.

>>69682940

>>69687409
OH NO NINASISTERS
OUR REBUTTAL?!?!?!

>>69682119
When will you stop trying to squeeze every last drop of drama out of the tube for your dramabird?

>>69688926
The fact that all of NijiEN's former friends are keeping as far away from them as possible is important info.

>>69687409
NTA but could you elaborate? Seen people mention this but never any details. Might give some hints about the current mess.

>>69684144
No? Just because they aren't saying it doesn't mean they're not doing it. Mika and Mata had plans and met up with Oliver while in Japan and neither of them have mentioned it on stream. They can mention meeting up with other graduates because they're no longer part of Niji, but they can't mention the Nijis themselves. It's always been like this.

>>69689265
>Mika and Mata had plans and met up with Oliver while in Japan
>and neither of them have mentioned it on stream.
... then how do you know they met up, retard

>>69689321
From actually watching streams. Not many guys living in Japan that fit the mold of "close with Mysta, Nina, and Mika" while also being someone they can't name or talk about in depth.

>>69682429
you are pomu, im pomu, we are pomu

>>69683839
Pommers is literally the greatest vtuber to ever live.

source: my giant pomudachi cock and balls

>>69689093
https://youtu.be/wyre74wqY-I

>>69689500
>From actually watching streams
I remember on stream a bunch of them have said they should totally definitely meet up in Japan and then OH would you look at that they've never alluded once to meeting up in Japan.
There's no proof any of them have met the Nijis in Japan, but there's loads of proof that they've done the opposite and have avoided meeting them.

>>69689989
Is this not a coded reference to Elira?
https://twitter.com/MataraKan/status/1756842538911109208

>>69689989
Because not every minute they've spent in Japan is documented? Anon you've got to find a better argument than this. Mata spent the first 2 days in Japan meeting with people she's never once named. She also spent an entire night drunk partying until 6 AM with Giri, Kuro, and other people she didn't name. There's tons of opportunities for any of them to have met up with people and they've just not commented on it. Add in that yes, they openly discussed plans on meeting In Oliver's case even before graduation and it's not hard to piece two and two together. Along with the fact that the trip is still ongoing even now.

>>69684003

>>69690182
People can just get sunblock in their eye, idiot

>>69690314
>posts dyke
She isn't going plap Rumi-chan no matter how hard she tries.

>>69684003
>*laughs in Henya and Matara having more viewers than their jp corpo PL's*

>>69690564
Who wears sunblock in Tokyo in February?

>>69690750
People that don't want skin cancer or look old.

>>69682940
>kicks Ironmouse
Yeah, just after Hololive kicks out Gura, Niji kicks out Luxiem and Phase kicks out Pippa.

>>69684555
This make momos look like a purple cock with albino gland

>>69690728

>>69690182
Is sunblock a fanname for Elira or something?

>>69690842
No, but they might be equating sunblock to the fact that Elira is a "Solar Sky Dragon"

>>69690731
don't shit on VOMS, their split was amicable despite what falseflaggers would lead you to believe.

>>69690982
I'm the VOMS red girl
It was a huge shit flinging nightmare
Trust me I'm red girl

>>69689093
This was post-graduation but before vshojo debut. First clip I found but this was the only "full" Ethyria off-collab since Reimu lives in Columbia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwfsANajmH0

>>69690790
I doubt Matara wears sunblock, on her face, every day even in winter. Keep in mind this would mess up your makeup and makes you look greasy instead.
>>69690842
She's a sun dragon and her oshi mark is the sun.

>>69690750
You can still get sunburn in the Winter anon. Just because it's cold out doesn't mean that sun isn't shitting UV rays at you nonstop

>>69691044
not ESL enough kek

>>69682119
Reimu did collab with a couple holoID girls within the past week.

>>69691278
I got sunburned skiing once can confirm.

>>69691278
There's actually less UV in winter because the sun is less intense, it's harder to get a sunburn. If you're really going to be outside all day it can make sense but it's not like she was going skiing in downtown Tokyo.
It's not impossible she actually put on sunblock to walk around a city in the middle of winter but I just don't buy it, especially given how much she loves dropping hints.

>>69691385
It was before the smear stream, and it was reschedule months before because of some tech issues. There's no way holo hasn't blacklisted all collabs for the foreseeable future.

>>69690728
t. Roomie-chan
I subscribe to this rrat

>>69682119
Nina likely met with Rosemi.

>>69692085
Again no proof of this. It's a cope

>>69692128
Watch her first collab with Giri

>>69692184
It's up to you to provide a timestamp

>>69682119
>Kuro even met up with Holostars
yeah, they're actively avoiding the Nijis

You think people will collab with them after they graduate, or will they be permanently black listed?

Pomu has been over niji since she put in her graduation. She doesn’t want to have anything to do with them anymore. Why is that so hard to understand?

>>69692706
Probably just avoid the ones they know causing trouble.

>>69685911
Yeah all the good ones.

>>69682119
So it seems the Twitchtuber circle has started to exclude NijiEN, but will Hololive do the same? I can't see them not doing it. IIRC the last Holo/Niji EN collab was about a week after the Selen drama hit, but that was clearly planned weeks or months in advance.

>>69693106
hololive definitely blacklisted them after the smear stream.

>>69690750
the pale ass slavic roach

>>69693106
>IIRC the last Holo/Niji EN collab was about a week after the Selen drama hit
The Nerissa / Rosemi / Zentreya collab that Selen was supposed to be part of?

>>69690982
>stating the obvious fact = shitting on her previous corpo
if I wanted to truly shit on VOMS I would point out Henya got her 3D concert months into Vshojo while she couldn't after years in VOMS

>>69693106
It probably only happened BECAUSE it had been planned weeks or months in advance. Also Holo knew that the shitstorm was not Reimu's fault, so they were never gonna bonk her for it.
But yeah, no more collabs with Niji EN moving forward, because management has a proven track record of willfully breaching NDAs. Anyone who wants to know why that is such a big deal is free to ask Rushia and Mel how seriously Holo takes NDAs.

>>69693254
No, there was another one after Selen's termination letter was published but before the black screen stream. It might've been with Holo ID actually.

>>69693305
yeah, you just did.

>>69690750
Obsessed asians?

>>69684286
She definitely wasn't

>>69693488
Yeah, it was Holo ID (Ollie/Kaela)

>>69693254
>>69693488
The one last week was Zen/Ollie/Kaela/Reimu. First one was Zen/Nerissa/Reimu, and was supposed to have Selen. These things are planned weeks to months in advance, so it's not something that can easily be dropped. We'll have to wait and see if any other collabs with NijiEN happen in the upcoming months.

>>69682940
Nina is Enna's big black gorilla bodyguard that's always following her, not a good look of Vshojo

>>69693897
>We'll have to wait and see if any other collabs with NijiEN happen in the upcoming months.
There's nobody left in NijiEN who would reach out to Hololive for collabs.

>>69693859
>no she wasn't
Maybe you should at least deliver some evidence to back your claim, retardchama

>>69693305
GYARI is literally one man. It's a case of Couldn't, not Wouldn't. Henya had bigger ambitions and moved up with no hard feelings. Happens all the time. She's still in contact with them and Pika is still all over TMSK's wall.

>>69682940
What the fuck is the point of moving away from the clique if you just bring the clique with you anon?

>>69683001
Sure anon, she's definitely hanging out with nijis. I know it cause I am her boyfriend.

>>69693106
holo already sort of excluded outside collabs even with niji, so a lot of the time even before all this the few niji collabs were a rarity.
basically nothings really changed for how holo treats nijien

Pomu is the most damning one since not only is she excitedly meeting with other people in Japan, but she's also constantly dog whistling about how fucking vile NijiEN is.

>>69694502
Moving up in the corporate ladder

>>69694594
It's only a dog whistle if you're a schizo.

>>69682119
Anon, they could've just hung out and not tweeted about it.

>>69694399
people re-enact their trauma all the time.

>>69694594
Dog whistle? It's a damn klaxon.

>>69695089
She hasn't tweeted about it because rape is illegal, Anon.

>>69683741
I don't watch them but i mean, kino...?

>>69695089
They've tweeted about literally everything else, and Pomu wouldn't be making half the tweets she's been making if she had any sympathy for the snakes in NijiEN

>>69689093
more recent than the previous example
https://x.com/MillieParfait/status/1747366314392305690
https://x.com/MataraKan/status/1747366319098388615

>>69695089
Ok, but they tweet about every single other vtuber they hang out with.
So either nobody wants to hang out with Niji vtubers, or nobody wants to mention they have because they're that wary about the drama.

Having to be "Friends in Secret" is not a good thing.

>>69694910
Nah, not really. There is no reason to bring up unprompted how there were bullying accusations against an idol org *two years ago* unless you're making commentary on current events. Anyway schizos have a pretty good track record lately.

>>69695539
That applies equally to all the people avoiding mentioning Doki (including iPN)

>>69695439
>>69695539
There's no reason for them to tweet about it unless they're looking for public backlash.

>>69682940
imagine if VShojo gets hijacked by nijiEN's clique, man that would be funny

>>69682300
I loved Pomu with all my heart but I'm not going to watch her on twitch. Fuck twitch. Fuck that whole ****** loving, tranny loving westoid clique of normalfags.

>>69692524
Nah. You can just keep being wrong.

>>69687492
maybe that's why they didn't want it to get approved

>>69695914
did you just censor yourself on 4chink of all things

>>69695674
Nightmare fuel

>>69695914
I will watch her in your stead then.

>>69695914
brown hands wrote this post

>>69695983
I didn't want God to read what I said and get upset.

>>69695914
>Fuck that whole ****** loving, tranny loving westoid clique of normalfags.
but enough about /vt/

>>69695914
Yeah I'll enjoy being able to use notPomu emotes in other streamer's chats and better chat integrations while you cry.

>>69696464
I've always wondered how copyright works for that. If someone puts your copyrighted emote in someone else's chat and it appears on stream, isn't that a violation.

>>69695914
I love how much twitch just straight up makes retards seethe for no reason
It's just a hosting site

>>69682940
anon, vshojo has actual tardwranglers unlike NijiEN

>>69696678
No, they don't.

>>69690728
>Join Vshojo
>Go full dyke
>This has happened to multiple girls
Weird place

>>69695914
Oh no I will be able to watch notPomu with a usable chat, theatre mode and use subscriber emotes all over the website it will be horrible.

Ironmouse is also collabing with Doki. There might be Pomu and Selen collabs in the future.

>>69694221
It's fairly public how she was discluded from everything and it's why she interacted more with the guys instead because when she tried to befriend the girls who would later be known as the clique, they didn't like her and didn't want to collab. She talked about it herself while still in Niji.

>>69696793
She was always like that.

>>69695914
If you watched nijien how do you have a problem with any of that

>>69695955
Wouldn't put it past them. Selen trying to sneak a message in, and sending it to someone outside the clique for approval. It gets released, 'someone' notices and makes up an excuse to pull it. That would explain the shady reason about her not having gotten perms to use Nina and Mysta. Dude, you might be onto something.

>>69696920
You must not have watched Ethyria in the year and a half before she left.

>>69695531
This was from january, long before her japan trip.

>>69697090
>2 weeks after Selen's MV got taken down
grim

>>69697018
The people making and posting in threads like this didn't. They're all cheering for a rrat that Pomu abandoned all the friends she'd made over the course of almost 3 years in the blink of an eye because they hate Niji.

>>69695955
This was proven to be the exact reason it wasn't approved. "management" said they had to get "approval" from ex talents. In other words their ass was sore that she included Mysta and Nina in it at the end.

>>69696606
"Just a hosting site"? Are you literally fucking retarded, willfully ignorant, or disingenuous? It employs an ideological bent across everything, is increasingly hostile in its policies against viewers, has draconian and retarded rules for thee but not for me type enforcement based entirely on who is sucking who off, employs delusional deerkin trannies and other ilk as community moderators, is constantly shoving minority worship bullshit events across the site, is incredibly biased and selective over who they decide to feature on the main page based off politicking or inside cliques and grudges, bans over the most retarded nothingburger garbage often centered around flaovr of the week brigading and manufactured non-controversies. The asylum that is twitch is run by the insane.

Twitch is a fucking trash bin for anyone who respects themself or isn't the type to be triple vaxxed with 10 boosters. It's just pure fucking kool-aid faggot on the plantation type of shit.

>>69696464
>>69696855
Oh I see this is actually a vshitshow thread for vshitshow trannies and sisters.

>>69697018
I don't watch that fucking hypersexual cockguzzling faggot and if I met him in real life I'd STOP ASIAN HATE by knockout gaming that racist monkeypox carrier into a wheelchair.

>>69691525
If she's one of those "I have 10 steps or more to my skincare routine" kind of girls then she has sunblock on definitely.

>>69697246
>Just a hosting site? Are you literally fucking retarded, willfully ignorant, or disingenuous? It employs an ideological bent across everything, is increasingly hostile in its policies against viewers, has draconian and retarded rules for thee but not for me type enforcement based entirely on who is sucking who off, employs delusional deerkin trannies and other ilk as community moderators, is constantly shoving minority worship bullshit events across the site, is incredibly biased and selective over who they decide to feature on the main page based off politicking or inside cliques and grudges, bans over the most retarded nothingburger garbage often centered around flaovr of the week brigading and manufactured non-controversies.
Are you describing youtube?

>>69696887
>Ironmouse is also collabing with Doki.
Doki hasn't mentioned this so where have you got that from?

>>69682300
I hate to tell you this but they've been following each other for years.

>>69697236
Except that wasn't a reason and made it up afterwards

>>69697018
jokes aside, Niji have streamed on twitch before. Pikamee did too, and preferred it because she could do more, and it's why she switched to it as Henya.

>>69697387
Youtube is policed by fucking AI, automated DMCA and algorithms. If you get a comment deleted and your account striked or banned on youtube for saying some shit it's because it was detected by their system not because some tranny in stripped coding socks and a furry mask saw it with their own eyes and took offense. I also don't see youtube having massive controversies for discrepancies in moderation against female titty streamers versus everyone else.

>>69696606
A hosting site that doesn't save VODS. Sorry, not really a fan of it. I tend to have a life outside of vtubers so I miss them going live like 90% of the time and I like to watch VODS instead.
If she's going to exclusively just post on Twitch then there's a high chance I'm going to miss it and won't b able to watch it anyways.
Them not saving VODs is my biggest problem. There are some where they can post the VODs later in YT but that's very rare.

>>69696156
god already hates niggers

>>69697418
https://schedule.twitchrivals.com/events/palworld-showdown-ft-piratesoftware-vB572
They're in an upcoming twitchrivals Palworld tournament together.

>>69695914
I don't watch anyone that streams on Twitch only because Twitch is a shit site.

>>69695674
The kind of environment that allowed the clique to do all its bullshit in NijiEN isn't present in Vshojo. They wouldn't be able to pull strings with management to deny perms for since that isn't a thing in vshojo, trying to exclude them from collabs won't work since vshojo members are free to collab with whoever they want and all of them have close association with many /lig/ chuubas, and on top of that, no one in the clique would ever be able to topple the "queen" of vshojo Ironmouse anyways

>>69697609
Are they on the same team or just playing in the same event?

>>69697533
It saves VODS, just not forever.

>>69697533
Twitch saves vods for 60 days. That's 2 months to get your shit in order and watch it. If you don't, then most responsible big streamers also have VOD channels and upload there so you can still watch it or if you just prefer Youtube for video watching.

>>69697656
Didn't IM become queen by toppling Nyanners? And didn't she leave Silvervale on read for months?

>>69697742
you can save VODs for way longer as Highlights.
But nowadays more /lig/gers are getting into simulcasting in both platforms so youtube saves the VODs while twitch is the main live (they also read youtube chat though).

>>69697519
No it's just full "instructional nudity", gooning, and spiderman and elsa pedophile indoctrination rings.

>>69695579
She was talking about her oshi who's graduation she JUST went to dramanigger

>>69697609
Twitch rivals is a different story. Silvervale's going to be there too, you know.

>>69688926
>dramabird
back to discord sister
>>69691525
>>69697307
what the second anon said. sunblock doesn't necessarily have to just be "sunblock" but also a skin care product that does other things.
I think it's pretty safe to assume she just meant what she said and going full schizo about it makes you a schizo

>>69697533
Nearly every chuuba you could possible think of uploads their VODS to youtube, and probably has atleast 2 fans who have their own back up channels doing it to, assuming you didn't catch it in the 2 months it was left up on twitch.

>>69697848
Kick is objectively the best streaming platform and growing, Twitch and Youtube are both dogshit.

But the shit you just described of youtube, beyond any expected child rape that likely happens at youtube headquarters, is all video content not livestream content.

>>69697848
Still sounds better than twitch tbfh

>>69697941
>calls doki dramabird
>replies to skin care products
nijisister spotted

>>69697609
I wouldn't call this a collab as they're not on the same team, I'm not sure the other teams are actually going to even interact.

>>69697719
They're on different teams.adk8r

>>69697790
VODs gets muted and pulled pretty frequently; it might suck more for the creator when the video stays up but gets flat-out demonetized but as a viewer YouTube is still probably the slightly better deal out of two tech conglomerate monopoly shitshows

>>69698090
>adk8r
That's what I get for phone posting.

>>69697993
whenever I used Kick it had some strange chat lag, other then that it's literally a 1 to 1 twitch clone with no ads and no streamers I want to watch.

>>69698027
I was quoting another anon and I know about skincare because most of my family are women.

>>69697533
>vod watchers and clipper get fucked
Good, watch streams

>>69698097
I've never seen a full Twitch VOD get removed outside of the streamer themselves deleting the VOD. Twitch also only mutes segments of the stream when there's DMCA instead of killing an entire VOD or demonetizing it. Visible here by those small segments of a different shade of purple on the timeline.

>>69697993
Getting children hooked on gambling is just as bad as getting children hooked on porn. All current streaming sites built as pitfalls of degeneracy for kids to become addicted to some kind of spending habit

>>69697742
>>69697790
The not forever is what's stupid. Like, I recently got into Fauna and Rosemi. Because of YT saving the VODs I can go back and can watch a shit ton of content to 'catch up'. Can't do that in Twitch.
Like, I get it that they probably can't afford to save all those videos for everyone, but I still hate it.

>>69698420
Did you not finish reading the post or look at the image attached

>>69697932
Are we changing the definition of a collab now? lol

>>69695914
Did you just cut your dad's head off?

>>69697018
in that retarded logic of yours, if one is to watch any holoEN girl they are automatically ok with Kronii and Mori cock carrousel saga even if they never watch a single second of the two

>>69697993
>it happens in the video sections of the site, not the streaming part
>the part youtube is was built on and used for the most
>this makes it ok

>>69698483
Read my first post.
>There are some where they can post the VODs later in YT but that's very rare.
> but that's very rare.

>>69698420
nothing is forever

>>69698604
That's really funny and slightly topical. You also saw that random ass literal schizophrenic's video that is representative of nothing in anyone's mind except maybe as a psyop in an election year at best? Kind of fizzled didn't it? I thought I'd be hearing about that crazy schizo dad beheading Trumper this entire year but a few news stations did stories on it without even mentioning his insurrection rant. If anything the conspiratorially minded will only thus conclude that he was an MKultra that went off the reservation unexpectedly.

>>69698760
But you're talking about a controversy that is years old and has caused them to implement massive site wide changes to automatic moderation and enforcement. That's like calling reddit an open air pizza repository (which is a funny thought, mind you), because 10 years ago it had hundreds of jailbait subreddits.

>>69682119
Vshojo=GOOD

>>69698184
That chat lag has largely been fixed. The site is still in beta. It's just barely 1 year old. More and more people are moving there, and there's always potential for finding people there you do want to watch. I mostly watch low view streamers anyway and like finding new channels, rather than my same old same old. I will fully admit that it is far more IRL oriented than gaming desktop stream oriented but it's slowly growing and I'm hopeful. It still needs a proper tag system as well to encourage that. Not being paid by Kick, by the way.

>>69698391
I don't gamble and have no interest in gambling but the idea that kick is going to get *children* hooked on gaming is fucking retarded. Also, gambling requires capital to spend, porn can become a crippling, mind-frying addiction completely for free. They are not the same.

Also, Kick has implemented options in its menu, clear as day, that allow you to disable either or both gambling and hot tub streams from appearing sitewide.

>>69699188
twitch is literally still flip-flopping their thot/smut policy, they changed it twice in the same week two months ago; twitch is geared for live broadcasts youtube is geared for static/archival video, there's tradeoffs to each but i wouldn't dare call either of them 'good'

>>69698016
Ok, freak

>>69699387
oh and kick is a retard honeypot with no traffic for 99% of its streamers that'll be dead and/or bankrupt (maybe killed by saudis somehow?) faster than you can say 'mixer'

>>69691207
>I doubt Matara wears sunblock, on her face, every day even in winter
If you know nothing about women's fashion or skincare, don't speak about it. The sun is worse in the winter you fucking idiot. Women who take care of their skin use sunblock lotion on their face to prevent aging.

>>69695914
dont worry brownie il watch her in your place

>>69699755
>Women who take care of their skin use sunblock lotion on their face to prevent aging.
oh these fucking hags, so desperate, so vulnerable

>>69687492
all this is telling me is that pomu and selen/doki are in love

>>69699783
Quit being racist, tranny. Your fellow twitch viewers are all brown.

>>69698630
Pomu collabed with Uki more than Luca lol

>>69699917
Uki is a flaming homosexual, Luca is a sexpest. If you don't believe homosexuals are all mindbroken heterosexual closet bis then is just a pro in Pomu's favor. She said on her alt she doesn't watch male streamers, she likes CGDCT.

>>69697823
nyanners used to be the queen but she kinda slacked off and got distracted by drama and then aethel. i mean shes happier now overall but her numbers and content will never be the same. shes isnt unhinged, depressed and bitter now and her content us starting to reflect that. she used to be the queen of cursed shitposting

>>69699874
did i hit a nerve pedro? nobody cares who you watch its not my fault your 3rd world country dosent give free prepaid for twitch unlike for youtube

>>69695914
>the brownoid is attempting to say that Youtube is less "woke" than Twitch
you're clearly mentally disabled and you're also simping for a billion dollar company which gets worse and worse every single day

>>69699644
Kick is also the reason that mega retards like Johnny Somali have a platform which has in turn made it more difficult for people to do IRL streams around the world because he can't stop committing crimes for clout.

>>69682119
The nijikeks are better off for avoiding the vshitshow creatures though.

>>69700311
Johnny Somali and the Japanese being complete lay down and die pussies who needed a drunk Russian to give him street justice is the reason for that, not Kick, you fucking cuck.

>>69691525
>If you're really going to be outside all day it can make sense
She's walking everywhere outside. She's big into skincare. I think it's more plausible to apply Occam's razor and take the tweet at face value.

>>69684227
Black companies are like that. You're always just a number to them.

>>69700250
>you're also simping for a billion dollar company which gets worse and worse every single day
Nta and I use both sites, but you hardly claim Amazon is any better than Google.

>>69682119
Do you seriously think she'd tell everybody she's hanging out with Elira so people can start harassing her too?

>>69700436
Nigga where do you think Johnny Somali streams from? I guarantee you Twitch would've permabanned his ass 10 minutes into his first stream if he pulled any of the shit he does there. Youtube probably would have too. Kick is the only place where that shit flies because Kick is retarded.

>>69700436
yeah he's really a lone bad actor dragging kick down and ruining the reputations of adin ross, amouranth and xqc

>>69700715
Kick is the only place where that shit flies because it's not a faggot site for bootlicking cuckolds. I would have liked to see someone kill Johnny Somali live on stream, but "permabanning him in 10 minutes" fucks the entire point of Kick not being an overly sensitive hugbox. His antics would not have continued for long anywhere but Japan. Their Japanese autism and conflict avoidance was enabling him far more than Kick.

>>69700932
Adin Ross is a Jewish retard, but what have him, Amouranth or XQC done that's any worse than like, the 10 or 20 faces of Twitch that are all irredeemable subhuman garbage plagues on society?

>>69701134

>>69701134
holy shit you need to neck yourself like now

>>69686206
>ignore Zaion's case
>ignore Selen's case
>ignore Pomu "once in a lifetime chance" case
It makes sense when you don't think about it.

>>69701195
I accept your concession.

Also, Ice Poseidon scamming $500k from retards dumb enough to buy his shitcoin is objectively less evil than what Hasan does every day.

>>69701270
how much allowance money did you give him for the rugpull anon

>>69684060
>Enna and Elira were (still are) their #3 and #4 female talents respectively
One of those was pushed in almost every merch deal now wonder why...

>>69701270
>Kick loving nigga
>Raging /pol/tard

>>69701372
None, I just called anyone who bought into it retards (or Indians). How did you not catch that? Are you maybe projecting?

>>69701437
>you need to be a /pol/tard to hate Hasan
average Twitch enthusiast

>>69700436
>who needed a drunk Russian to give him street justice
What? I only heard about some texan

>>69701730
This isn't vtuber related at all but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-R0qa11FY0 manbun guy is apparently a Russian? who owns a shop in the area.

>>69684810
hanging out with millie again might have made her realize how bad it was in nijisanji

>>69682940
The guaranteed, 100% method to improve anything is to remove Nyanners.

>>69682940
>bring over Enna, Millie, and to a lesser extent Elira
lmao no one fucking wants that you're literally just a vshojo company loyaltist wanting to poach

>>69699874
Twitch's bitrate is way to high for SEA, bro.

>>69700036
My point is he's an part of her content, if you can grin and bear through that or ignore the collabs you can likely get through her being in vshojo too.

>>69699841
Probably not, but with how much fun they had hanging out I'm sure they've become somewhat good friends. Good enough for them to do a collab outfit release and for Selen to spend thousands on a little game to celebrate it.

>>69704317
Are you being sarcastic? Twitch offers the shittiest max bitrate of Twitch, Youtube OR Kick.

>>69701893
>that mario coin sound when the cameraman got ktfo
chef's kiss

>>69698224
It's okay to be trans, don't worry.

>>69705434
Johnny got ktfo with the coin. He was horizontally leaking and dazed. It was sweet sweet release.

>>69695630
Well ipn replied to gumiho making an apex meme with Doki. He's making inroads with corpo connections I don't blame him for not showing public support

>>69682300
Every creator worth a damn follows the backpack guy

>>69705500
no its not troons deserve the rope

>>69705297
Youtube uses different codecs for live stream transcoding. If you send 1080p it will transcode with AVC which is not good for fast moving scenes like FPS games. If you send 1440p then it will use VP9 (same as twitch uses). and this one is already quite good for quality streams with fast moving scenes.

>>69691671
I thought it was after, but either she’s convinced the Holos that she’s clean, or Ollie’s a retard. Really depends on whether Nerissa is still willing to give her the time of day. The two of them and Zentreya were supposed to have Selen as part of their Lethal Company collab, but she ended up attempting suicide right before. Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s just Ollie being unable to read the room.

>>69697246
I used to be like you but then I realized that you can hold strong political beliefs without projecting them or opposing beliefs onto everything in existence in order to feel kinship or disdain and that political youtubers would have you believe everything and everyone is evil and out to get you and twitch is just a website that does have all the things you said but also some of the biggest streamers on the site say retard and make race jokes and still get invited to official twitch events

>>69708286
>but also some of the biggest streamers on the site say retard and make race jokes and still get invited to official twitch events
>based entirely on who is sucking who off
What the fuck do you think I was even talking about in my post when I said rules for thee and not for me and other shit about cliquey crap? It's fucking shallow hypocritical faggot virtue signalling mixed with some of them being genuine faggots mixed with some of them being the biggest grifters on the net mixed with some who genuinely believe the insane shit they spew. But all it boils down to is did you suck enough dick? Can we still sell you? Nevermind shit like the double standards for racism when it comes to Hasan and other major figures and ban lengths and egirl simping by moderators, le wholesome dorky Emiru and her dildo Mizkif are rape and sexpest enablers creating coverup stories.

Yes, if you're part of that "clique" of toxic skeletons in their closets faggots, or a big time onlyfans girl, you can get away with anything. Anyone else and you go to the gulag. It's essentially a microcosm of the same shit that happens in Hollywood.

>>69682300
uhhhhh that's not goods

pomu (naomi) sounds very happy that they can check out idols and do things on their own terms. doki is also happy.

holo/niji just drain the life out of you I guess.

>>69710754
Both are ex-niji talent though...

>>69710754
What does Holo have to do with anything you said......?

>>69711471
>>69711512
people that leave seem to be a lot happier, is the point

>>69699188
>right wingers spout violent rhetoric constantly
>insane people act on right winger's constant stream of violent rhetoric
>god guys it's just because he's nlinsane, the shit we say every single day was a mere coincidence no stop googling stochastic terrorism that's totally irrelevant to what we- who cares if liberals have pointed out that this is the obvious outcome again and again and that we obviously intend for it to happen? IT'S JUST A FREAK COINCIDENCE IT HAPPENED TWICE IN THE SAME WEEK. YOU PSY-OPED THEM INTO DOING IT THIS IS ALL PELOSI'S FAULT

>>69712117
this isnt pol

also in america all the crime is in retard liberal cities/states.

>>69710754
>holo
Name 1 ex-holo who is currently happier. The closest cope would be kson but you would have to argue that she's happier as a whore instead of that being the final cope (prostitution).

>>69682300
it's time to come home and rest, solid pomu.... mission accomplished....

>>69712117
Go donate 5 dollars to Hasan you dopey faggot.

>>69683741
>altare has been in japan for over a month
wtf is he just living with axel now

>>69712421
literally everyone would be happier taking 100% of money instead of paying retard JP management a superchat tax.

>>69712942
>100% of $200 of superchats
vs
>50% of $20k of superchats plus $20k per month salary
And this is why you're a NEET or have some dead end minimum wage job.

>>69713082
indies make much more than $200

also they don't have to beg Japan for "permissions" for a game or beg to do stuff that gets declined.

>>69713267
It could be $2k and it still doesn't compare. It could be $20k and it still doesn't compare. I didn't even mention sponsorships and merch which would eclipse those figures. You're simply a manchild who has no clue about money or industry.

>>69712421
>as a whore
there is nothing to argue about because she is not

>>69713467
im saying making a lot of money outside the hellscape that is holo/niji is much better.

>>69713489
So how do you define a female fleshtuber who shows off tits and ass on stream as an attempt to garner attention?

>>69713489
>>69713617
>all of Kson's popular clips are her getting her ass slapped or her tits groped by other women as a fleshtuber
>not a whore
UMMMM RESPECT TALENT FREEDOM

>>69713577
You're wrong for the reasons I already listed. And what you said earlier exposed your true feelings - you can only view this from your own perspective of wanting them to have wider streaming permissions, oblivious to the fact that most holos are on track to a very comfy retirement while your favorite indies are pushing themselves every day. Nevermind the fact that an indie would never have big mainstream collab opportunities anyway, but I'm sure being able to stream genshin is totally worth abandoning a 6 digit salary job plus further 6 digits in commissions/royalties. Stop being a dullard who can't imagine anything outside of his own head.

>>69713955
would you rather enjoy life or hate it working for these companies

>>69714129
I would say receiving a 5 digit MONTHLY salary for free is the definition of enjoying life. Do you still not realize that you're projecting your own preferences onto them? You want your oshi to be able to stream some shitty game that they don't have permission for under a corpo, so you convince yourself that your oshi must be suffering as much as you are for not streaming that game. In reality, she is living life to its fullest thanks to all the money she gets and doesn't give two fucks about some specific shitty game. Of course, this only applies to holo and not niji, which for some reason you keep conflating the two even though niji is much worse and your argument could indeed apply to them, but not holo.

>>69714129
NTA, but it's really not that simple. There are some good arguments for signing with an agency, just as there's good arguments for signing with a music label.

>>69689663
Me too!

>>69682119

>>69693030
>Kuro
>Good
Pick one

>>69713082
>>69713467
>>69713955
nta but I like the comedy of how you have to insert some kind of insult at the end of your every post for reinforcement because of how insecure about your own opinions you are. Good posts.

>>69715947
>said the troon with no argument
I specifically do it because I know my arguments are right and therefore my insults are implicitly also correct. For you to think insults are a sign of insecurity instead of a power move says enough about you as a person (i.e. a low self esteem failure at life).

>>69695531
>>69697090
>>69697179
But didn't notnina say that she was comforting some friends after the termination announcement?

>>69713791
>clipseething

>>69716119
you make quite an argument (for your immediate sterilization)

>>69717361
I accept your concession.

>>69691044
Bro pls, i love TMSK, but she can barely speak japanese not even mention english

Total niggersanji death.

>>69684547
>There is just as much proof as there is of Selen being bullied
You mean, except for Nijisanji grabbing a bullhorn and confirming that it was absolutely was a thing. I'm sorry anon, but it's not Doki's fault that Niji's PR team has the collective intelligence of a singular jellyfish.

>>69697046
yknow when girls bully other girls, they dont do it directly, right? they play mind games. they extend just a bit of an olive branch to you so you dont know for sure they hate you, but they talk shit about you behind your back.

>>69682300
>>69682119
Now we can finally answer whether she's an actual lesbian who munched rug in college or if she's just a pretendsbian.

>notPomu joining Vshpujo
Oh yeah, she definitely wants to implicate herself in Selen/Doki's harassment by joining the company that houses Matara, the two-faced bitch that reconciled with the clique behind the scenes. She definitely wants to be seen taking the side of the clique against Selen. Even if that's what she ultimately did, even if she cut all ties with Selen/Doki and chose Elira and co, showing that to the public is tantamount to social suicide.

>>69715702
>was upset about the secret gc stream
>didn't show tribalism in the discord leak
Yeah, he's a good one.

>>69728687
You are knee deep in your own rrats but your opinion is rather worthless because notPomu is already openly associating with Matara.

>>69713577
>outside the hellscape that is holo/niji
how the fuck is Holo a hellscape?

>>69696605
Probably not. Consent is implied if you upload emotes to Twitch.

How is this thread still up. It's been 12 hours.

Just passing by to say that I enjoyed Mika/Nina collab with Giri yesterday.

>>69682119
That's something.

>>69732690

>>69713617
>>69713791
sorry but if her pure idols do the same and worse and you don't call them whores then she's not a whore or you're just being hypocritical.

>>69682351
As long as she's happy.
She'd be happy in either organization.

If she can't get into Hololive, VShojo is a great alternative. She'll also experience the shock of competent management, as the others.

>>69732844
Made me realize how much I missed Mika and want her back. The first thing she did after introducing herself is grab her pussy over and over until Mata and Giri have to tell her to stop because she finds the image so funny. Hope she redebuts soon and hope it's in VShojo

>>69712421
>getting to kiss and grab hot girls tits everyday
>makes all her own money
>sponsors rolling in
>in not 1 but 2 Yakuza games now, an actual dream come true for her.

>>69713791
>all of Kson's popular clips are her getting her ass slapped or her tits groped by other women
Sorry I'm not seeing the problem here. Unless you're not into girls. Are you into men, anon?

having a famous dorky bilingual sexpot gf that likes to lez out sometimes and fishes for ffm threesomes for you both? yeah that would definitely suck and be for homosexual gay faggot men

>>69693305
We joke that Niji doesn't have managers.
VOMS literally does not have managers. It's just one guy and his streamers. Or at least it didn't when I asked Pikamee about it a few years back.

>>69682940
>Losing Nyanners was the first step of this tragedy.
Losing that niggercat was the best thing that happened to Vshitjo
Kick Froot next and it can heal

>>69738515
Her superchats have fallen off a cliff and she would've been making more under hololive even after the cut.

>>69743081
she actually makes money from stuff other than supas now that she has managers who give her sponsorships because they don't hate her
also like 2/3rds of her supas are in members streams

>>69743968
>managers
So, people who take a cut? Holo has so many mainstream sponsorships these days there's no question that she would've gotten Yakuza under Coco anyway.

Also, her supas are 1/10 of what they used to be.

>>69744047
they would have gotten laplus or someone into yakuza
they literally gave her nothing, that's why she quit
your monkey sites do not track supas in members streams

>>69744100
They cut off all of China for her. You're an actual schizo.

>>69744175
you mean china cut them off

>>69744202
No, they could've fired her or forced her to apologize to beg for their forgiveness but they burned bridges with China to keep Coco instead.

At the end of the day, she's never talked shit about holo unlike ex-nijis shit talking niji. The reason she left is confirmed by all parties as being creative differences, and based on her current content, that means being a twitch whore whereas holo didn't want that in their brand. No need to have a schizo victim complex on her behalf.

>>69744300
ok helmir

>>69744327
I accept your concession.

>>69744346
>durr she should be grateful they didn't fire her, stupid whore
this is what holofans are like

>>69744377
That's not what I said at all. Post your membership status, I'm suspecting you're a falseflagging nijicuck since you're acting really retarded.

>>69744518

>>69744579
So you're just a schizo who won't even listen to his own oshi when she says she left holo on good terms, got it. Have fun wanking off to your weird victim fetish.

>>69744640
she doesn't want to cause problems for her friends who still work there
have fun rimming japanese investment bankers or whatever you do for fun