/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

It feels way longer than that.

>>69614749
Feels like months to me, what aride

They should've just shut up, take a week break and resume streaming like normal. The drama was already starting to die down before that video. Looks like Niji's PR is finally getting the message though.

If you just shut up your fans will do the character assassination for you

>just 1 week
WHAT THE FUCK

>>69614694
Nothing apparently.
RIP artists who are straight white men (pic rel.)

IT'S BEEN

>>69615541
ants.jpg

What a month, huh?

>>69614878
>Looks like Niji's PR is finally getting the message though.
They've already had two different replying to shitposters incidents today. Niji's PR doesn't exist anymore. It's a free-for-all where the livers have to decide what they want to do to try and salvage their reputation without violating their contracts.

put riku dancing in the blackscreen

>>69615623
oops

>>69614694
They will argue with randos on twitter
They hate white men

>>69614694
Definitely don't do those streams.

>>69614694
That sometimes it's better to take the brunt of the internet instead of throwing people under the bus

>>69615864
You can report this under racism on twitter btw it will be funny getting his account locked

>>69615541

>>69614694
Same thing as almost every internet drama: The more you run your mouth the worse it'll get. Just shut up.

>>69614694
Water bottles sounds are ideas to cover the noise of pages turning.

>>69614694
Don't try to go for round 2

>>69614694
Faggots and normies alike eat up drama

>>69614694
I still haven't learned the name of that one guy...

>>69614694
WE learned that nijisanji is blacker than we thought.
THEY learned nothing.

Nux confirmed that niji talents are mainly managed by highschool graduates on minimum wage in JP who speak minimal English. No wonder they formed a clique to manage themselves. You may think that they are learning a lesson but the niji talents have and are their own bosses. No one is telling them to stop. This will just keep getting worse. They will keep putting their feet in shit. They don't have a management to tard wrangle them.

>>69614694
>what did we learn?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06yIPyugxnA

>Nijisanji
>learning

>>69614694
Sometimes it's best to shut the fuck up

>>69614694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6VjPM5CeWs

>>69615541
>>69615864
https://twitter.com/uki_violeta/status/1759977866396119148

>>69615864
didn't know Uki was so based

>>69614694
Once you go black, you never come back

Ike has a future in water bottle ASMR.

>>69618508
I'm 90% sure he did it because people would forget he exists otherwise.

>>69617278
source now.

>>69618716
do your reps, and they do pay management positions literally minimum wage too

>>69616851
you can but it will get ignored. if he gets suspended I'll eat my words, so time to prove me wrong.

>>69614694
That there might be someone named Mike or Bike in nijisanji and who happens to love bottles

>>69618416
reported for racism

>>69618508
who?

>>69619208
man, im tired of this drama, imma just assume bullshit until someone else posts a link

>>69615864
I reported Uki's post for hate speech.

>>69617050
Doki has a charity stream next whh4hjeek. Niji is definitely gonna go for round 2

>>69615864
>>69618416

>>69618716
https://youtu.be/ktRVkdQpfSE
He goes over a few things in the video and seems to have seen or at least knows a lot about the actual niji contract. It's an eye opener.

>>69619898
Time is 13.32.

>>69618470
elira knows that quite well at this point

>>69614878
https://youtu.be/JcZoCY7fUXg
SHUT THE FUCK UP
the strongest legal move EVER is there anything stronger other than invoking the 5th?

>>69620312
>the strongest legal move EVER is there anything stronger other than invoking the 5th?
there is no such thing as the 5th in Japan. they wouldn't understand.

>>69619442
It's against whites. Elon will personally send a self driving Tesla through his window.

>>69619893
kek

>>69619898
I know a lot of anons on this board like to shit on Nux and say he doesn't know shit but I think you guys are under estimating just how close knit the Vtuber community actually is.

At a certain level, everybody knows everybody or at the very least has mutuals

>>69620430
>Nux
Jewish

>>69614694
all we've learned is Niji cannot for the life of themselves just shut up and stop.
just today they're causing another flood of threads over their latest retarded nonsense.

>>69614878
Ike took a 2 day break then resumed streaming like normal
Vox just resumed not streaming like normal
Elira has been in Japan offpakoing with Rosemi and whoever else this entire time

>>69614694
It's only been a week? fuck it felt like a year

>>69614694
black is black, thank you for coming to my ted talk.

>>69617278
>>69619898
>>69619970
Holy fuck, it's real. SO THE GURRAT IS ACTUALLY REAL?????

>>69617278
>No one is telling them to stop. This will just keep getting worse. They will keep putting their feet in shit. They don't have a management to tard wrangle them.
I believe this now, they're so done. Nobody wants to join a corporation where the management team are high schoolers and the clique control the English branch. Holy shit, this is actually fucked up

>>69618716
Sorry for google translate. I couldn't be bothered when I was laughing at it with friends.
You can actually just check their jobpostings. https://www.anycolor.co.jp/recruit
But it looks like they're desperately hiring now, including for real talent managers.

>>69614694
that this board will suck fleshtuber dick if someone else had to smell their breath.

>>69624857
>10:00 to 21:00 on 1.1k yen per hour
what the fuck

>>69625171
>$7 an hour
literal indentured servitude slave wages

>>69614694
That Elira got plapped by management for her sins. And that legal is working overtime to avoid a big payout for Selen.

What a fucking mess.

>>69624857
>Part-time Managers
>Low English requirement
>Minimum wage
I didn't realize it was this retarded. No wonder they aren't being tardwrangled. The Gurrat has validity now. Like what the fuck am I reading

>>69624577
The more information comes out, the more real it gets

>>69624857 (me)
The job postings have been really telling of what it's like in NijiEN behind the scenes. Lots of urgent postings for what should be senior management roles.

>>69625455
Reminder that the gurrat essentially just boils down to that Elira and her clique became management liaisons. Everything else is just evidence gathering and further speculation.

>>69619836
Its a half truth.
Japan has a hiring season, they shotgun a bunch of fresh students into the company at minimum wage and then they are supposed to work their way up for the remainder of their life.
Its jap corpo bs, but nothing out of the ordinary.

>>69625682
jp corpo autism, makes sense

>>69625643
this Nux drop is like a testimony of it being super strong. Kind of fucked and Agent LK was definitely leaking real shit

>>69620430
He should be careful before getting inevitably thrown under the bus again

>>69619898
>nux confirmed
>post information that was already public and had been mocked on /vt/ for the entire past week minimum
What?

>>69626273
I'm just looking forward to March, lots of dramatubers teasing juicy shit with Zaion's NDA expiring.

>>69624857
You proof kinda sucks.
It says quality control, not management.
It also says its for people that finish studying march 2025.
So its neither a management position, nor super urgent.
If they need a new manager they promote somebody up, you dont enter a high position sideways in JP.

>>69614694
We need to pay the Hydro bill sooner

>>69626462
Which rrat being true would end up as fukushima meltdown tier?

>>69626780
I have no idea, but at this point any confirmation of the GURrat being real in any way will be pretty devastating for them.

>>69626462
For sure, but thought it was dropping in April.

There also was a juicy section in one of the Legal Mindset streams about the NDAs
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQP-MIGBhzY&t=25050s
>NDAs can be broken in certain circumstances like crimes:
>Sekuhara and similar <----False reacts to this!
>Embezzlement
>Fraud

His reaction could also be for some other leaks he got in general unrelated to this Nijiyab though.

>>69614694
We did not learn a thing... because everybody with a brain knew niji was a toxic black company for years

>>69627288
>NDAs can be broken in certain circumstances like crimes
In the civilized part of the world though.
Not sure about other countries

I have zero proof on this but it deffo feels like 39daph has been given Selen's document, or something similar, because all her fucking statements sounded like "I'm not claiming I know shit.. But let me do a bunch of leading statements that I'd have zero basis or proof to make claims on unless I knew what was written there"

Elira evil
Rosemi in clique
Vivi bootlicker
Ike who?
Vox le retard

>>69627856
She wasn't shown shit; she was just told a bunch of lies and half-truths by Kyo ans then tried to make herself seem more important with vagueposting.

>>69614694
There will be more drama soon OP, no need to keep every 5 minutes

why is there no shop of riku face on this guy yet?

>>69627963
>Rosemi in clique
it must be a misunderstanding...

>>69626596
>If they need a new manager they promote somebody up
Oh hey, look who moved to JP recently and go her work visa sponsored!

>>69627856
Personally, I doubt she was shown anything, she's just plain stupid.
But if she was shown anything, she's giga fuckin retarded because they clearly used her and further ruined her reputation because literally everyone thinks she's stupid now.

>>69614694
how tf are their subs STILL dropping? it's been a week just recover.

>>69628969
>now
Even the cancerous austin stream circle dropped her

>>69615541
Go try making a thread with that and see what happens.

>>69614878
yep

>>69615541
Congrats on posting a thumbnail instead of the actual image you fucking dipshit

>>69624857
no work on holidays. Does this explain why Doki was unable to get approval for her video in time? Pretty stupid of Nijishitty to have no one available when their streamers are working.

I was looking for the screenshot Vox was referencing but can't find it.

>>69630673
christmas isn't a holiday in japan.

>>69615864
wow really, they are based racists too

>>69629166
LOL NICE

>>69626462
>>69627288
Heard April as well. Only time will tell and I think the sisters plus clique know this deadline hence their constant PR campaign to make Niji look good

>>69631763
Seeing all this inane bullshit on /here/ only helps reinforce this perception for me. Actually looking forward to it.

>>69626596
It just happened to be the actual screenshot I took at the time because it was the most relevant. Point was, they're a publicly traded company with public job postings. It's pretty telling of what's going on inside NijiEN, when they're not saying anything.

>>69622950
>Elira has been in Japan offpakoing with Rosemi and whoever else this entire time
She hosted the smear campaign stream, anon. C'mon now.

>>69627044
In a way, they've been confirming it by not confirming it. Both False and Khyo covered the reddit corpo theory and Khyo was supposed to cover the GURrat but ultimately backed out saying he can't cover "speculation" although the reddit rrat is also entirely speculation.

The comments False DID have on the lawyer stream also pointed to the GUR having legs

>>69614694
I learned that something about evil women turns me on so hard

elira never really did it for me but I jacked off multiple times to her voice in this video. Faking tears while saying the vilest shit, it's so good bros

>>69627856
Idk if she was shown anything but the specific statements she made about each liver being given their own document and them volunteering for the PR video stood out as insider information to me

>>69628625
LK leaked that "In Kahoots" was a mischaracterization. She's probably toeing the line

>>69614694
God Elira is such a fucking corposlut. I want to fuck her senseless and force her to stream herself bloated and gravid from all the dragonborn babies I'd put in her vile womb.

>>69614694
>It's been 1 week since
YOU LOOKED AT ME

>>69614694
Niji livers badly need an effective tard wrangler

>>69615864
uki just desires
>CORRECTION

seriously, it's like you guys never saw the nazi femboyxlenin greentext

>>69631993
Same, usually I wouldn't give a shit about dramatubers but the sisters and clique have pushed things way too far that I look forward to the multiple tactical nukes.

It's very funny how they try to keep on mimicking strategies that worked but only backfiring so hard.
- The Positive Hashtag was mimicking #WhereIsSelen and naturally their hashtag failed
- The Anti-Doki rentries was mimicking GURRAT and naturally their rentries failed plus got further backlash

Then we have the strategies they used in the past:
- The private influencers strategy was used against Sayu but PuppetGate exposed them and 39Daph causing daph to get blacklisted
- The Slander Termination worked against Sayu but it massively exploded back when using against Selen
- Astroturfing /here/ only resulted in everyone saying "fucking sisterniggers, shut the fuck up" which incited autistic hatred against them even more, instead of trying to influence /here/ - they have instead pissed more people off

Hell, their reddit echo chamber got massively culture-shocked by everyone seeing 4chan being right about a lot of things. So, when 4chan got validated and people are saying "wait, those autists may have a point", you can imagine the seethe

Sisters have taken so many L's that the clique must be seething that all of their past strategies that worked have only resulted in massive self-reporting and getting onto various industry blacklists. They honestly lost everything with their position in their pursuits to destroy someone, it's absolutely beautiful. Now, they'll be relegated as a 3rd or 4th tier agency. At best, they'll get merged into NijiJP, it's not a matter of if but when

>>69617278
Nux has a niji insider? or is he taking the guratt as gospel? The guy has a history of jumping the gun to chase the story

>>69617278
every job needs tard wranglers, especially when you're managing menhera bitches

>>69633375
Wait, where are you getting the blacklist stuff from?

>>69633473
He's a dramafag, but I do believe he has some insider knowledge. Time will tell.

>>69633375
Seeing shit people get their comeuppance precisely for being shit people truly is beautiful to witness.

>>69633473
>he has contact with Vox and presumably Ren because of all the collabs done with Ren's PL
He hasn't mentioned the gurrat. He also hasn't leaked anything that he already thought was common knowledge. He's gotten a lot better at not jumping the gun and just letting things play out, confirming what we think we know along the way.

>>69614694
this is the biggest yab that nijiEN has ever did for 2024. logically there is no way it would get any worse.

>>69618416
It's crazy to me how they let tweets like these stay up for hours but can apparently crack down on company criticism in minutes

>>69614694
That Niji is a shitshow; it wasn't just memes and banter.

>>69614694
A fitting color to represent kurosanji

>>69618416
Looks like someone posted it on the subreddits, but the VirtualYoutubers mods keep taking it down
least the Nijisanji one is unmoderated lol

>>69634605
A single red heart emoji on Valentine's Day was taken down in four minutes because we were rrating about Scarle being late for her stream.

>>69615864
This is pretty huge actually, these antiwhite racist types never apologize for their bigotry and always double down so this is a guaranteed shitstorm.

can I get a qrd on the black frame stream?

>>69636097
yeah elira said that the cia assassinated jfk

>>69635340
The *sigh* thing was all here from here as well, wasn't it?

>>69636178
Considering we've not heard from her ever since, it's quite fitting.

>>69636097
Video scheduled right as doki/selen was live with her first planned gaming stream, they got vox, elira and ike to try and pull a zaion on her with supposedly leaked legal documents (le retard said on stream he thoroughly read them) that should've only been seen by niji and selen's lawyers. Elira inadvertently outed herself enna and millie as being cited in those docs so the mean girls bully clique rrats have legs now. Also willingly hosted on elira's channel.

>>69636178
CIA and Mossad are the same entity so technically she was right.

>>69614694
That there are some real problems, in Nijisanji's way of handling talent and their business.

>>69634097
Some anons have posted that they've been getting quietly industry blacklisted and it kind of makes sense due to how they conducted themselves

>>69614694
>It's been
1 week since we got to see
Cheatin lovers and cousins that marry

>>69634412
They'll outdo themselves, they have zero proper tardwranglers and the gurrat might actually be a lot more real with their management team. It's just when will they mess up at this point because we can tell they don't care to change

>>69614694
My rrat that this artist and others like her fucked up the perms lives rent free in my head while I'm at work.

>>69640525
>Doki never said it
>Artists denied it
Must be true, otherwise niji would have to be an abusive black company making shit up to fuck with their talent

>>69615794
Seconded

>>69614694
That I do not think things will improve.

>>69620312
Shut the fuck up is in fact the strongest legal move, be it a criminal or civil lawsuit, your strongest option?

Shut the fuck up. Don't talk about it!

A huge perk is that 90% of the time it also defeats bad PR yabs too. Just shut up about it! People will forget and move on.

>>69619442
It's not just twitter though, if you complain enough to niji they have to take action, that's the way it goes with corpos, black or not. This would lead to him getting reprimanded behind closed doors like Kyo and Enna which is already better than nothing

>>69641571
NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I CAN BEAT THE ALLEGATIONS

>>69641790
YEAH YOU CAN BEAT THEM BY SHUTTING THE FUCK UP

>>69640880
Not even that, I don't watch Niji and usually stick to 2views but the more I try to dig for more details the more it becomes obvious parts the gurrat or whatever it's called is bullshit. There probably was a clique but it was most likely formed by the management except they probably didn't think of it as a clique and more like facilitators since they were ESL and constantly stretch too thin trying to keep up with everyone. Then ultimately that would mean the fault lies with NijiJP for fucking over their EN branch.

>>69624857
>>69626596
This is why you don't trust MTLs.

>>69641596
His fans are all terminal twitterites who fully support this kind of thing; I doubt Cover is going to bother doing anything at this point - there's no advantage for them.

>>69641957
I mean Elira getting like 80% of all sponsor deals is some real fucking shit.

>>69641957
That's literally the GUrrat.

Man its really funny my shitpost became the gurrat when like

My actual theory was so much more tame.

>>69642252
>Cover
???

>>69642381
No, gurrat pushes it was either NijiEN clique being incompetent or malicious with bullying by the clique. I think what actually happened is more benign, and a lot of miscommunication and Selen did indeed shit the bed for no reason other than her own misunderstanding.

>>69642481
>newfag tourist
The GUrrat wasn't one post, it was an accumulation of multiple ideas over multiple threads over multiple days.

>>69642505
>Anycolor*
Jesus, lack of sleep and replying to multiple different posts.

>>69614694
Total Niji Death is the ethical option.

>>69615864
Hey, isn't this the guy who showed up out of nowhere in that Pufferfish collab?

>>69642930
ye

>>69642626
it was literally drawn from me shitposting about elira being management lmao. People just went wild with it from there.

>>69643011
No, no it wasn't.

>>69643166
>t-there can't be an origin point for it, it sprung into being fully formed.

>>69616851
Let's do it, boys!

>>69643462
Not your personal army

>>69614694
We learned about the grand unifying rrats.

>>69643248
I just know for a fact that some random faggot who appears in a thread to lay claim to it is a rather sad liar.

>>69643579
How can you still trust the GURRAT when it was disavowed by his creator?

>>69643691
He wasn't the creator he was just the guy who summarised the rentry. There was no one creator. And he only took it down because it broke containment and he still had hope that Elira was good.

>>69643691
Just because the creator pulls an Oppenheimer does not mean that I won't use the bomb.

>>69643691
It was never disavowed by its creator.
Just the website that one guy created.
Gurrat itself still fine. Hell we can't even know who compiled in the first place.

>>69643625
turns out a random anon faggot is behind every single piece of content on 4chan. Its shocking but true.

>>69644082
There wouldn't be a rrats without rrat pushers and feeders

>>69633375
Feels good, man.

>>69624857
>real talent managers
not at that pay scale they aren't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D-WVlRohQk

>>69636416
It originated from Scarle and Aster's leaked DMs.

>>69643691
You can pretend all you want but it's too obvious that you're nothing but a low IQ sistrash trying to falseflag.

>>69645181
I don't want to believe that this is real because I can't comprehend somebody actually typing like that.
I understand idiolect means you'll type things out the way you'd talk, but nobody would vocalise a sigh unless they were being obnoxious to draw attention to themselves.
To type it out is some extreme levels of cringe I had yet to even really consider existing.

>>69646051
That's why it's so fucking funny. Literally everything point to it being real, but the there's... *sigh*

>>69645181
>he thinks the dms posted by some trany on twitter with a bone to pick are real

>>69647612
Your boyfriend's love letters are written by his ex-girlfriend.

>>69646866
>>69646051
The best part is, he 100% DOES type like that. Actual tweet sourced fresh from the fields

https://twitter.com/AsterArcadia/status/1602917126313897984

>>69647718
kek

>>69614694
How likely is it that Nijisanji is trying to bury any public idea of bullying going on within the company before they end up going to court for it?

>>69647964
Psychopath behavior

>>69648558
Oh, well as long as they maintain radio silence on any mentions of bullying/harassment, that should be pretty easy for things to blow over

>>69614694

>>69650134
I swear to god Nijisanji could toss me 40 grand and I could solve this problem.

Are you thinking of tweeting something in the next 3 months? Sorry. I have to approve it. If its not some cutesy shit or schedule its getting denied

Also no more fucking SOLIDARITY tweeting shit, it makes them all look fucking retarded and fake.

>>69650134
At least somebody's making money off of Nijisanji right now

>>69650414
It also cheapens any time they actually DO have solidarity.
If NijiEN wasn't Drama City right now, and they didn't have that blatantly obvious Family tweet, people might have overlooked the artist thing, because the artist has been legitimately damaged.
What nobody's talking about is that technically, the artist could sue Niji for damages, since their PR fiasco is what caused the artist to suffer tangible monetary and reputational damage. There's no point, because Niji is in Japan, and the losses would be nowhere near the cost of the lawsuit, but still.

>>69650414
Every time I think that they've figured it out and are going to shut up it just keeps getting worse.

>>69614694
I learned that these people are way too thin skinned to survive in the entertainment industry and too stupid to let their boss do the talking.
Even if all he did was apologize to the investors and not the fans.

we learned to let everyone loose and see what happens. why this was the lesson learned i have no idea

>>69633375
Why I'm reading this like this is re-enactment of Tumblr-4chan war?

>>69614694
I doubt anyone learned anything. People in the right always knew they were right, people in the wrong will still keep believing they're wrong >>69650264

>>69619866
Did (You) have a stroke anon?

>>69635637
Anti-white racism is a nothingburger and everyone knows it except white dudes and karens who wanna feel like a victim and cry about it.
>Oh no, some fag called me cracker or something! Woe is me
>This is exactly the same as a history of violence and marginalization that still echoes today!

I genuinely don't get why they are using the only people that have goodwill in the company to try and do this, it's misguided and risky to taint everyone on the EN side with the same sin. We already know even without prior information which did leak that they are now astroturfing to try and generate "grassroots" support with them. The only other information we know is that there will be a direct "leak" contingent with the approval of management in the future to try and amplify messaging by using the same infrastructure that destroyed them to shift awareness away from the fiasco by betting on dramatubers wanting to make money over integrity. Some of the bets aren't bad here, but I replied to this comment saying that this is a fool's errand because the public already knows too much information. I guess we'll have to see how this strategy fares. I am not seeing sentiment shift in any measurable way, and the feeling is that the talents are fighting for PR peanuts when there are still some serious unresolved issues looming over the entire situation which won't be simply resolved with the plan that people are still going to hound you with. It would've been better to try this after things like apologies and joint statements were done but I have the feeling that is the last thing that will be tried.

>>69650414
They literally could have solved this by not rushing to terminate Selen and let her graduate while keeping the drama deets under wraps. Hell they literally could have cut out the part about the liver bullying from the termination notice and this would have died out sooner.

>>69627856
She just assumed a bunch of retarded shit.

>>69651173
It pretty much is

>>69651930
It might be because the entire branch is under threat of getting canned so it's all or nothing to them.

>>69614694
That it sucks to enjoy Niji right now. Hard times.

>>69651952
Selen's termination notice is a prime example of 'just shut the fuck up'

>>69614694
in the past week i've gotten confirmation i've gotten a new job, signed a contract, and set up a hotel to tour new apartments

>>69651486
(You) must be at least 18 years old to post here.

This guy apparently got swatted by the sisters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6jXVK4qDbI

>>69630673
She got a response on Christmas. If it was an holiday she would have gotten no response. Although this requires the western mindset of "Fuck off I'm on holiday I'm not even going to answer you."

>>69615541

>>69634605
Because it's a nothingburger and people are only pretending to be offended by it. I still think he should get banned regardless for staying in NijiEN though.

>>69651486
>people who "want equality" don't actually want equality, and just want supremacy for their race in particular
>you're not allowed to point this out
Fuck off and try to silence me, faggot. As some raised to fight for equality my whole childhood, I'll never stop fighting hypocrites.

And even if you're baiting, you're still encouraging discrimination against your own race, which still makes you a cuck, so yeah. Either way I'm in the right here.

>>69617278
>Nux confirmed

>>69652199
I rather leave a sinking ship with my public reputation and integrity intact rather than try desperately save it and burn said reputation and integrity in the process for that 1% chance. I get that is easy to say on the internet and not so easy to actually do in practice but it genuinely to me looks like an exercise in futility.

>>69652572
According to Sayu, niji gaslights their talents to make them feel like they're worthless without niji. Therefore they will fight to keep the only thing keeping them relevant, in their minds.

What's stopping the non involved talents from jumping ship? Afraid of taking a viewership hit for going indie? Secret skeletons they got in their closets? Are they actually alright with things going on behind the scenes?

>>69643462
White man together strong

>>69650134
>muh dramatuber
>also we're the real victims
Just in case anyone wanted to still persist in the cope that there are nice people in the branch. The triple combo of gaslighting, playing the victim as the bully, and deflection.
These people do not deserve the mercy doki has given them.

>>69652813
Considering I remembered them telling one applicant for Nijisanji en that he'd have to give up voice acting work to be brought on, I'd believe it.

>>69643579
If this is rosemi i kneel
Psychos who are unambigously self-serving and logical as presented are fuckin hot

>>69642481
>>69643011
>>69643248
Why didn't you use a trip when you made your posts then?
I guess that would make you look like a faggot, but we already knew that

>>69614694
Learn when to shut the fuck up.

>>69653410
because thats gay.

I prefer to be unverifiable and to make claims and rile people up

>>69652459
I didn't say it was good. It said it was a nothingburger. Because it's literally nothing. What are the fags gonna do, suddenly organize and discriminate against 90% of the population? It's just a useless tantrum thats unsightly but harmless. Pretending its important is ridiculous.

>>69654050
>Pretending its important is ridiculous.
That "all-out war" discord leak was also a useless unimportant tantrum, and look how far that ballooned out of control. Anyway, if Kyo is forced to graduate because of a jab at Koreans, I don't get why the same shouldn't happen to Uki for mocking another race, far more prolifically, might I add, to the point where even the pozzed-ass subreddit can't cover it up for him anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6VjPM5CeWs

>>69624857
>try to do the right thing (read: bare minimum) after all these years
>still fuck it up
anykuro what are you doing lmfao

Selen was:

Responsible for Anycolor skinwalking her twitter account to hide her attempted suicide as an accident.

Responsible for Anycolor's termination notice being 3 pages of lies.

Responsible for the community notes calling out said lies.

Responsible for Elira's stream.

Responsible for Vox admitting that Anycolor broke Canadian information privacy laws during that stream.

Responsible for Anycolor's lawyer rushing out a correction notice that STILL admitted to breaking Canadian information privacy laws.

Responsible for Riku apologizing to Japanese investors in English.

She's responsible for all of that. Damn. That's impressive. The woman gets shit done.

>>69633375
Keep in mind, Anon, that they're trying to shift public perception again, this time using fanartists as a shield. Something like this:
>don't harrass livers
>don't harrass fanartists --->we're
>don't harrass fans
>don't harrass Niji
All of this happening so soon and several organs tweeting ARTIST LOVE it smells like gayops from the sisters. I-m already seeing people trying to argue that the whole #PositiveSpamforNijiEN or whatever was an attempt at being positive and not gayops.

>>69656046
all this came after Doki tweeted out she is doing a charity auction stream and is looking for artists.

Immediately after Nijipests start the

>W-We love artists too (even though it's a company policy to fuck up paper work to avoid paying them)

>>69656409
Professional artists are already avoiding Niji like the plague.
They're trying to virtue signal for the small fries that are too disconnected from the scene to know that Niji doesn't pay up.

>>69641571
>People will forget and move on.
But people don't forget, this only works if you manage to get a whole new demographic. If you shut up and then comeback after a long time the first thing people are reminded of is the reason why you had to shut the fuck up and leave

>>69656046
>>69656409
Yeah I saw, I'm sick of their culture war. They're so persistent. I hope the dramatubers nuke them out of orbit in April if it's something real.

Their company is a huge laughing stock privately and now publicly.

>>69642529
>I think what actually happened is more benign
AnyColor is ontologically evil and you will burn with them in hell

>>69656046
Oh their GayOp is to make it where if you criticize Nijisanji, you are harassing them and their fans lol.

This is a fucked up manipulation tactic, I'm actually going to avoid anybody associated with them like the plague. They legit are utilizing toxic abuser tactics to run unchecked...

>>69651486
You're not ready for this website, Daph

>>69652894
>Afraid of taking a viewership hit for going indie?
If it was me I would leave now and say I did it because Doki's story gave me the strength to fight a shitty system etc etc.
That way you leave with your reputation in one piece and get to secure a fan base

>>69614694
It is now day 8 of the 3 day special operation against Dokibird.

>>69657057
Yeah, leaving now is a no-brainer, Niji nuked their goodwill so hard that any talent leaving would keep their fanbase + new subs just by leaving niji and teasing the "niji bad" narrative a little.
My take is the contract doesn't allow them to leave until a certain deadline (contract renewal or the like) or they have to schedule this shit (which we know is true)

>>69652572
You mean 2%.

>>69653055
He wasn't just any random VA either the guy voices a Genshin character
I still can't get over that
Did they really think he was about to throw away a role like that to become a 3view

Nothing

>>69652572
>I'd rather live as a subhuman than die as a man
Any other big takes you wanna throw out?

>>69628169
I'm sure she thoroughly examined the documents like Vox. Just as it should not have been shown outside the legal team in the first place. You can't assume they suddenly stopped being stupid. No telling how many have seen it already.
She has repeatedly said they were separate documents when no mention of it prior.

>>69657678
How about thinking you are a waste of oxygen and you should terminate yourself since we are going for unprompted insults?

>>69657370
He was in Genshin? Well he was probably a 2-bit NPC or so-
>He's the voice of Cyno
>THE banner character for the Sumeru plotline, and one of the major characters in that plotline.
>Also the final boss of the TCG mode
>Extremely popular with fujos to boot.
Yeah no fucking way he was giving up his VA position to join Nijisanji. He probably gets better numbers on his collab streams with the other Genshin VAs than what his entire wave would get combined in NijiEN, even before the whole Selen thing. Plus, he's gotta know what happened to the last Genshin streamer to join Niji.

>>69657234
They should get a lawyer like Doki did and see if they have a case to terminate the contract early

>>69657678
Sacrificing your life for a shitty entity that will be remembered for its failures is hardly dying as a man, anon.
That's a dog's death.

>>69652894
>>69657057
We have multiple accounts from ex-talent that Anycolor wants you to feel like you are nothing without the company. This is a common black corpo tactic, to hire mostly younger talent with minimal work experience (if any), emotionally browbeat them, and hold on to them with abusive and underhanded tactics until they either succumb to the crushing gears or manage to escape (which almost always requires a third party's intervention).
Recall that Elira has never held a proper job before.
Now recall that all the livers that left DID have jobs other than streaming before they were in Niji.
Niji has gotten efficient at playing the game and keeping the gears running, but they're not used to what happens when there's rebellion, because it's a foreign concept to the Japanese.

>>69614694
For NijiEN to delete all her vods, and quickly write a 3-page termination notice, within 2 hours of receiving the notice from Selen's lawyer; shows this was not rationally thought out. But an act of passion.

This black screen notice shows that it was written by narcissists who could only predict a favorable outcome. Creatures of habit, reinforced by their bullying and gaslighting within the company. They know no better.

>>69614694
For NijiEN to delete all her vods, and quickly write a 3-page termination notice, within 2 hours of receiving the notice from Selen's lawyer; shows this was not rationally thought out. But an act of passion. Negotiation was not an option.

This black screen notice shows that it was written by narcissists who could only predict a favorable outcome. Creatures of habit, reinforced by their bullying and gaslighting within the company. They know no better. The blame never falls upon themselves; it's all the drama tubers fault.

>>69657370
He is also Jing Yuan

>>69658362
They were pretty fucking quick to delete those VODs, too.
>First post where somebody noticed the VODs were vanishing is about 5:30a ET, meaning it had been happening for a little bit before that.
>About 30 minutes later, the termination is announced.
They MAYBE had the document for an hour before deciding to fire her.

At this point, nijisanji EN only exists to give False free content

>>69658617
I tuned in to his stream to see if he was saying anything about the Twitter shit, and even he sounds tired of all this shit.
Of course, it's making bank for him and getting people on his channel that would never have looked twice at him before, but you gotta take a break from the hustle at some point.

>>69657370
He's in a A LOT more. No way he's going to grovel to a company that's currently shitting itself when he's nearly making it to the big leagues with Akihiko in the P3 remake. Vox wishes to be him.

>>69658697
Nijisanji has been overworking all the drama tubers. They need to give them a break.

>>69658697
Everybody is kind of tired of NijiEN's bullshit. They don't stop giving content

>>69658852
Can unironically write a book when it's all over.

>>69636097
There was a guy there

>>69658697
If he's going to release something big like he's been teasing, this shitshow may seem like needles compared to the desert eagle he has waiting in line, so he might be feeling a little self blue balled.

>>69643691
>his creator?
>when it was just a compilations of LK leaks and multiple anons rrating it up

Nice try, sister. /vt/ is not one person

>>69658526
In one hour. They didn't even respond to negotiate. Self-reported in that notice. Extremely hard to believe this was done by qualified lawyers.

>>69658617
unironically....

>>69658380
Damn this dude's voice is cracked then

>>69614694
We learned a lot
Nijisanji learned FUCKING NOTHING

>>69659025
>Extremely hard to believe this was done by qualified lawyers.

doki said all communication was done between lawyers in japanese, with the mainbranch. when her lawyer sent that document to the professionals in the mainbranch, they probably realized its an HR complaint, and therefore EN business. they send it to EN, elira reads it and panics cause she thinks its a lawsuit because shes not a lawyer, so termination notice drops immediately.

>>69659355
same as when Zaion went around her and talked to a JP manager, as soon as it got back to Elira she typed up that termination notice in a rage and was dumb and angry enough to self report by including that in the list of crimes when no normal person would see that as any major problem

>>69659698
yes, I agree

>>69615541

>>69659083
>dramatuber leeching off niji is more successful than they are
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

>>69659864

>>69617278
I dislike Niji, but I think he just picked up rrats from here or containment breakers to ride on the trend.

>>69617278
This was clear from Vivi and especially Uki's behaviour on twitter

>>69656861
>>69656747
>>69656409
>>69656613
With the shit Niji pulled trying to overlap with Doki I wouldn't be surprised if this is all to get artists to not work with her because muh harrassment. Pay attention next time she plans or has something big coming, I can guarantee Niji will pull something at the same time.

>>69660708
This is how to get your whole company blacklisted by utilizing your audience as a weapon against anyone you dislike... oh hey, they do that a lot huh

>>69660764
They're already being quietly blacklisted

>>69614694
https://youtu.be/IvJH2rmy_MY
https://youtu.be/IvJH2rmy_MY
https://youtu.be/IvJH2rmy_MY

>>69614694
I learned that nijien is way stupider than I ever thought they could be. what kept their stupidity at bay this whole time?

>>69614878
>Looks like Niji's PR is finally getting the message though.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

That nijisanji its talents and fans, after driving someone to attempt suicide multiple times, will keep going and trying to attack them anyway and show no remorse, regret on contrition at all

>>69614694
If the artist psyop and the random shitting on twitterfags is anything to go by, Fucking nothing

>>69662286
Holy shit, please, stop giving so much material to False. Fucking idiots.

>>69617278
So Nux is now someone who we can trust to give us legit information? Waow.

Turns out you can't shit on 2 workers and terminate them then shit on 3 other workers that graduate and expect to keep a good enough reputation to be given the benefit of the doubt. This stuff adds up, it's karma for thinking it wouldn't eventually wear down trust in the company . Rather than Sayu I think Matara Kuro and Pomus comments are what really damned them

Selen won two awards in Fillian's Award show, while Elira lost; putting the clique in a frenzy. Selen was becoming the face of the company. And that cannot be.

>>69662646
Nijisanji is simply so bad that anything about them is believable at this point

>>69662260
Pomu likely kept things together, having both office experience and the clout that people will listen to her. Once she left, the entire thing became a powder keg waiting to blow.

>>69660764
>>69660892
Are they, really?
>>69662286
>>69656861
So they're already using the "if you laugh at me it's harrassment" mental gymnastics.

>>69642270
not a nijisister, and I don't have a stake in this but that can be explained through them trying to push Elira as the face of nijiEN, like gura is.

>>69651486
It's not a 'nothingburger' if everyone is actively looking for things to take down Nijis with. Nogs and spics choosing to get offended about racist comments is done solely to try and gain power, same thing if we choose to play the offended victims in order to burn down Kurosanji.

>>69665733
Gura is the face of hololive because she's the most popular and her merch sells best

>>69614694
we can still go deeper

>>69614694
I still haven't watched it. Despite being stuck in this hellhole of a website for years my tolerance for raw, actual cringe continues to fall, and I feel like if I actually do watch it I won't be able to handle it.

>>69651486
I'm not even white but I'll side against these fucking locusts every time, they're trying to destroy my country too

>>69627288
Nah probably about all the women that Ike fucked and threw away

>>69627288
> if there's any sort of sexual harassment related claim?
> *false nods*
> or anything that goes down that line, um, that will breach an NDA
> so you can actually breach an NDA to file that to talk about that, y'know whistleblow on that
> "This explains something *smug laugh*" - False
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS EXPLAIN FALSE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>69651173
I mean, twitter is where all the tumblrinas migrated to

>>69628319
? sorry couldn't hear you

>>69665733
Not really, Pomu was far more popular so it would unironically LOSE them money to push Elira instead of her.
Same with not promoting Selen for stuff like Sanrio or the HYTE collab.
No reason for management to do shit that LOSES them money. But Selen already said that niji is a competition looong back, so this was expected.

>>69643691
we are hydra sister
the rrat survives is many forms
the rentry was never the only one

>>69652321
isn't that the leech that pippa picked up from some pond?

>>69643691
>by his creator
4chan is one guy - me

>>69617278
>nooo they're incompetent because they didnt waste their time and money on college like i did
burger seethe

>>69659355
So it was decided to terminate Selen about an hour after receiving the note, along with moving in to wipe her entire history. That sounds pretty fast?
If EN management isn't fluent in English, what made them decide so quickly?
Also, if Zaion going over EN managers to speak to JP was a terminable reason, is it the same Selen's lawyer reaching out to JP?

I need full list of clique members.

>>69667746
It's literally everyone left in NijiEN.

>>69667148
I only ever kept up with my oshi, but wasn't Pomu the runt of LazuLight? Or was it a case of least subbed but best CCV?

>>69667860
No, that's Finana. Pomu had the most subs, views, ccv, superchats, streamlabs, voicepacks and merch sold out of anyone in lazulight.

>>69667904 (me)
Oh, and memberships too.

>>69667904
>>69667926
damn good for her, I remember how rough it was for her after her surgery slowed down her channel growth

>>69667860
Only at debut.
Finana tanked herself by just being not interesting so her growth stalled after about 3~ months and Pomu overtook her.

Pomu did have the best CCV/Sub ratio after the debut buff wore off as well as the most diehard fans.
Finana has a small but loyal fanbase she fucked over.
Elira had the most fare-weather CCV

>>69614694
Why does Nijisanji hate white people and Koreans?
They should keep it to themselves. Not tweet about it. Their stupidity knows no bounds.

>>69614694
We? that Nijisanji is run by retards.
They? apparently nothing, not even the best basic of things

>>69668441
>Why does Nijisanji hate white people and Koreans?
Anon... They're Japanese.

>>69614694
Pretty sure Elira is done

>>69614694
>what did we learn?
Niji organs don't learn.

>>69614878
Literally all they had to do was silence all the livers for a week, release the CEO video by itself and some short tweet by NijiEN official account apologizing and implying they're investigating/restructuring. After that week they'd all return as if nothing happened and the drama would had been defused with maybe some damage to Enna and nothing else. Elira would be unharmed.

>>69667742
>If EN management isn't fluent in English
what am I reading? the document dokis lawyer sent was obviously translated to japanese by dokis lawyer, which is why it was immediately transfered to EN branch as it was an HR complaint and not actually a lawsuit, I assume its pretty hard for a nijiJP lawyer to figure out how much of that stuff is actually true, cause no idea what the fuck happened in EN. Elira got it, either as manager or just as translator, and panicked. I dont understand where I lost you. is this an ESL issue on your part?

>That sounds pretty fast?
yes of course. panic, cause real name named in what she thought was a lawsuit, potentially to the point of criminal wrongdoing.

>is it the same Selen's lawyer reaching out to JP?
no? why would that be the same thing?

>what did we learn?
It is INCREDIBLY easy to bait nijilivers into making public statements that are damaging to their company

>>69615541

>>69666928
Probably related to Vox.

>>69669646
My guess is Ike, there was already that one woman on reddit who named him for doing some shady shit.

>>69670118
rrats say that was probably Mel up to her usual tricks. Given her disposition to grifting, I am inclined to believe. It's been odd that we haven't seen her around here in all this mess. This would be the opportune moment to grift for donos from unsuspecting tourists.

>>69617278
so it's confirmed managers are japanese high schoolers instead of bitter singaporean roasties?

>>69668943
where this came from? KEK

>>69665733
Why would they push some middle to low level talent as the face of NijiEN when Pomu is right there along with all the other livers who were more popular (Selen included).

>>69671476
Because it was Elira making the decision.